@@BarrieKealoha You were absolutely beautiful I am glad someone else got hit hard that was one of my favorite Survivor songs EVER I felt weird for liking it so much because nobody really talked about it in my circles but here is the true appreciators!!!
@@RuddFoxx woo hoo!! Fun fact: the words we were singing are “kulia i ka nuʻu”, which was a favorite phrase of Queen Kapi’olani, meaning literally “strive for the peak”. It’s used to inspire someone to achieve personal greatness. We also called out “IMUA!” a few times, which means basically “keep moving forward”. So even though T was eliminated, she’s being reminded (in the language of her ancestors!) to not let this setback sink her, and too keep her chin up. Can’t wait to see what’s next for her ❤️
@@BarrieKealohaThis is incredibly powerful wow, makes Tiyana’s elimination all the further more emotional, incredible job on the vocals, you killed it!!!
Honestly I hated this gimmick of dividing them and setting up a last minute overpowered advantage, but to be fair we still had a great episode and that is mostly thanks to this amazing cast, it really feels like every single one of them has a very strong personality and gameplan, and although it’s a shame such a strong player like Tiyana is going home early it really reflects the level of gameplay this season
Sol was like a dog with two tails in the last two tribal councils. His joy over witnessing Rome get the boot and then watching his "gift" to Rachel play out in the latest tribal council. I found it hilarious every time they put the camera on him in both tribals. No words needed. Hilarious.
Don’t mind it. Not unlike the 6-6 split double tribal. I actually preferred this. Except the twist with Rachel. Would rather the advantage have been with the losing group to find. (Maybe one was)
As a fan since S1, I’m going to share my appreciation for tonight’s transpirings. (It’s easy to nitpick but fans have to be supportive too-no one will ever agree on the perfect game.) They eliminated mergatory (essentially), then the 6-6 or 5-5 double tribal, and to put this in its place was fresh. If the tribal lines were more diverse it would have been even more interesting. My only critique is not showing/placing a potential advantage on the losing tribe beach, instead of the winners’ and then Sol meddling-but it does keep the players interacting despite the split, which helps the game. A mixed bag-but all in all, fun unexpected stuff & good tv!
What’s fascinating to me here is her saying…she was shocked by Caroline and Kyle voting her out cuz she thought they were so close but at the same time she was ready to publicly vote against Tuku to make a statement about being a free agent even tho she knew Rachel would go? If she was that ready to leave, they could probably tell. Something isn’t adding up haha
She meant that she knew the plan was Rachel and bc that wasn’t the plan she wanted, in the event Rachel didn’t walk out - she was prepared for Rachel to play her shot in the dark, not be safe, & to vote a Tuku (Gabe) in a 4-1 vote for Rachel so she could be a free agent afterward…that Kyle/Caroline would understand bc she was quite adamant about this being a set up for making Tuku sitting ducks with the larger group.
New Survivor has intentionally added much more randomness, and hence, unfairness, for dramatic purposes, but that "twist" was very unfair to both Rachel and Tiyana.
Tiyana saying that her plan all along was to not write down Rachel's name in order to send an official "I'm done with Tuku" message to the other players -- I feel like that *would've* been her plan had she known that her Tuku "allies" would ultimately turn on her.
@@tmm4195 What I meant is the tribal from Rome to this is only one day. One day. For them to come up with that twist of having 7 people safe (but them believing they are already merged) and yet they can’t vote is wild and unfair. She could have gotten the women’s alliance that was shown earlier in the episode to vote with her.
@@cjdlaron I’m not disagreeing with any of that. Things literally worked out as terribly for her as they possibly could. From the rock draw to Rachel getting an advantage. I’m just saying that once Rachel left, her fate was sealed. She was unfortunately at the bottom of Tuku and never realized it. It’s just very unfortunate for her that she ended up basically going to a Tuku tribal council
@@tmm4195 I fear Kyle & Caroline fumbled it. Tiyana did say on her exit press that she believed that if Rachel didn’t pull the safety without power, she would have still thrown a vote to Gabe to signal to the 6 watching that she wants to break free from Tuku and they can work with her. I’m just sad it didn’t happen
Maybe. Lulu was a trainwreck of a tribe tho. If she was on 45 and Lulu still lost the 1st challenge. Emily would've left 1st (which i wouldn't be mad at). But noone on that tribe could do puzzles. So I still think they go on a losing streak. So she might make the jury if she's the one who survives
Wait. Didnt she vote with Sue and Caroline for TK. Thinking she might have to draw rocks? But now shes saying she wouldnt want to draw rocks if she voted with TK and Kyle? It doesnt make sense to me. To me i rather draw a rock knowing im finna switch the game up, even if it means i MIGHT go home. Compare that to just missing out on the jury because i wasnt in a good spot with the peoole i wanted to "draw rocks for". Idk
She explained it in that she wasn’t that tight with TK-that Kyle was a bridge between them-therefore, when TK flipped about losing, it was easy for her to just vote for him (& avoiding a tie) instead of if they were closer one-on-one and could have patched it up to discuss a true tie vote.
@@CadeCYCDude 🤦🏾♂️ in the show from what we saw SHE SAID she is willing to go to rocks for Sue. She didn't know Gabe would vote with them for TK. She thought it was 3V3. So her saying now she didn't want to go to rocks contradicts what we were told. So either she knew Gabe would vote for TK and knew it wasn't going to be a tie. Which is possible. Or she didn't know she was willing to go to rocks for Sue. But she's saying she didn't want to go to rocks for TK. But the thing is thats the moment that sunk her game. She should've swallowed her pride and worked with TK. Because he's a big threat and he's someone who can be a shield for her, and was willing to work with her. If she voted with TK and Kyle. Gabe or Caroline probably would've switched their vote. Or they would've went to rocks. And maybe she goes home, but maybe it pays off and she could've made it further. But its a moot point. But it isn't something to write off
Yeah I’m glad to see some of these comments say how unfair this is and I believe the same… wayyy too many effing twists. Split tribal, rock draws, last second advantages being sent to someone, no time to strategize. I love Survivor but these type of things are a turn off.
Well Jeff and production would definitely agree with you there. I think there’s a line in there somewhere which you shouldn’t cross with twists and this particularly tribal I thought that line was crossed.
So how was your relationship with Travis?? ….. How about Rome?? We saw him report to you about talking with Travis, how was that experience for you?? ….
@@lafingscarecrowand (with hindsight to some extent) since Tiyana was not happy with this plan-believing it spelled doom for Tuku, she was going to stray vote Gabe & explain it to her allies /the larger group afterward (which makes total sense imo).
Tianna was a good, strong player. Would have loved to see her play post merge. She got screwed unfortunately. All these crazy twists, 1/2 the tribe immune, Carolyn saved by production. UGH!
so sad to see her go. that whole tribal council just was not great imo.. i felt like she was wronged and i think everyone should have had a vote not five people only
I liked that they didn’t , different from mergatory in that way. Allows merge dynamics to move without large group consensus which is common in large number groups post merge .
We need to get rid of these split at merge episodes she never would have gone home unless it was this split. It was so sad seeing her immediately start crying
Are we gonna say this about every player? Ik it’s harsh but she’s not gonna be remembered by the time season 50 comes around there are way bigger personalities/ better players from the new era, and then you’ve got to account for pre 41 players too, absolutely 0 chance of returning for 50, maybe a second chance season (maybe)
What if we had Shan and Tianna back for Season 50? I also think it would have been interesting if the "power" that Sol had was actually the one and only vote of the night. I would give him Agency to get out whoever he wanted, but then he could not hide behind any of the voting blocks. WE would also we the internal deliberation of who to get out instead of a 30 minute tribal.
That would he so lame. If only 1 person got to choose who went out. Thats not even fair dude. Survivor is a social game. In the end, if you didn't/ can't make the bonds that keeps you in the game you don't deserve to win. Sometimes luck plays a part. But one person who found an advantage being to SOL (see what I did there 😂) to decide who goes home is lame.
I get it’s sad to see but it is genuinely weird to find racism in something like survivor and accuse these players of being racist… aysha, anika, and tiyana all made errors in their game and were voted out for it, i don’t get how that makes it racist?
@@Jaja-n8rbro no one is saying it’s racism, it’s just a trend, and a sad one to see cause people want to see people like themselves go far in games like this (hence why the show has upped their diversity casting) pointing out race isn’t always racism
@@vicbrown7645 exactly, people said the same thing when Maryanne and Drea had to play their idols in 42, I get it's not racism but it's a hell of a coincidence that both people on the jury so far were Black, and the targets were the 2 remaining Black women. Same here I get it, but it's very convenient that most of the women of color in this season were targeted early, while the white women have been allowed to advance further in the game. I'm gonna be honest this is the first comment I've made this season, cause I stopped watching after Aysha (the only Black woman in this season mind you) was eliminated, after seeing someone else on twitter point out the disparity on who's been voted out so far I felt like I had to say something.
She is a man hater. Girls like this who suck in challenges generally cling on the gender card and form a sorority club asap. I hate when this happens. They use men like fodder. Eat the cake and want to have it too. Contestants like Parvati, Cerie, Kelly W, Anika make men look small. Rather than looking for people who are doing nothing for the team, they will generally come up with a guy's name very quickly to cover their own butt. I don't mind if a guy is an obnoxious or a bully like Rome being voted out either. Rooting for Kyle to win this season. Sue is another clumsy player who leaves her idol trail all over the place and I thought Caroline would confront her with that but I didn't see that in this episode. I am quite surprised that most of them took it so lightly. Caroline is playing smart and Sienna is playing Smart. Sam seems to have fallen for her charm and believes folks very easily. Teeny is also another liability to handle and she will go with the women card as well.
The music they played as she was eliminated had me teary eyed ;(
That was me and my friend Keali’i singing!! I’m so glad you found it powerful too ❤️❤️❤️
@@BarrieKealoha You were absolutely beautiful I am glad someone else got hit hard that was one of my favorite Survivor songs EVER I felt weird for liking it so much because nobody really talked about it in my circles but here is the true appreciators!!!
@@RuddFoxx woo hoo!!
Fun fact: the words we were singing are “kulia i ka nuʻu”, which was a favorite phrase of Queen Kapi’olani, meaning literally “strive for the peak”. It’s used to inspire someone to achieve personal greatness. We also called out “IMUA!” a few times, which means basically “keep moving forward”. So even though T was eliminated, she’s being reminded (in the language of her ancestors!) to not let this setback sink her, and too keep her chin up. Can’t wait to see what’s next for her ❤️
@@BarrieKealohaThis is incredibly powerful wow, makes Tiyana’s elimination all the further more emotional, incredible job on the vocals, you killed it!!!
🏝🏖Aloha from Poipu on Kauai.
So unfair that play made to save a person at tribal & u got voted out.
Very disappointed.
U were great Tiana
Honestly I hated this gimmick of dividing them and setting up a last minute overpowered advantage, but to be fair we still had a great episode and that is mostly thanks to this amazing cast, it really feels like every single one of them has a very strong personality and gameplan, and although it’s a shame such a strong player like Tiyana is going home early it really reflects the level of gameplay this season
Even though the edit had prepared us for this making it a long time coming - this elimination was DEVASTATING to watch 🥺🥺🥺🥺
Tiyana is GORGEOUS also such a sweet soul. Her exit was so sad
Her leaving last night was sad
Sol was like a dog with two tails in the last two tribal councils. His joy over witnessing Rome get the boot and then watching his "gift" to Rachel play out in the latest tribal council. I found it hilarious every time they put the camera on him in both tribals. No words needed. Hilarious.
Sol was acting like he was just as surprised as the rest of them.
I love sol too he is my favorite player from this survivor
8 of 12 people immune in the first tribal since merge
What has survivor become?🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
THIS comment with your profile pic is so funny
Very true
Don’t mind it. Not unlike the 6-6 split double tribal. I actually preferred this.
Except the twist with Rachel. Would rather the advantage have been with the losing group to find. (Maybe one was)
@-dtuyhnjhggvjjjn agree. It's like good tv vs 8 people of 12 having immunity.
As a fan since S1, I’m going to share my appreciation for tonight’s transpirings. (It’s easy to nitpick but fans have to be supportive too-no one will ever agree on the perfect game.)
They eliminated mergatory (essentially), then the 6-6 or 5-5 double tribal, and to put this in its place was fresh. If the tribal lines were more diverse it would have been even more interesting.
My only critique is not showing/placing a potential advantage on the losing tribe beach, instead of the winners’ and then Sol meddling-but it does keep the players interacting despite the split, which helps the game.
A mixed bag-but all in all, fun unexpected stuff & good tv!
What’s fascinating to me here is her saying…she was shocked by Caroline and Kyle voting her out cuz she thought they were so close but at the same time she was ready to publicly vote against Tuku to make a statement about being a free agent even tho she knew Rachel would go? If she was that ready to leave, they could probably tell. Something isn’t adding up haha
She meant that she knew the plan was Rachel and bc that wasn’t the plan she wanted, in the event Rachel didn’t walk out - she was prepared for Rachel to play her shot in the dark, not be safe, & to vote a Tuku (Gabe) in a 4-1 vote for Rachel so she could be a free agent afterward…that Kyle/Caroline would understand bc she was quite adamant about this being a set up for making Tuku sitting ducks with the larger group.
Why would Kyle be loyal to her when she blindsided him on the TK vote?
New Survivor has intentionally added much more randomness, and hence, unfairness, for dramatic purposes, but that "twist" was very unfair to both Rachel and Tiyana.
Tiyana saying that her plan all along was to not write down Rachel's name in order to send an official "I'm done with Tuku" message to the other players -- I feel like that *would've* been her plan had she known that her Tuku "allies" would ultimately turn on her.
loved her. sad to see her go.
I cannot stress unfair this boot was for her. She couldn’t have possibly strategized in that moment. Good for Rachel though 😭
No unfortunately she was doomed here. Her downfall started at the TK boot
@@tmm4195agreed but she still got very unlucky with this set of circumstances
@@tmm4195 What I meant is the tribal from Rome to this is only one day. One day. For them to come up with that twist of having 7 people safe (but them believing they are already merged) and yet they can’t vote is wild and unfair. She could have gotten the women’s alliance that was shown earlier in the episode to vote with her.
@@cjdlaron I’m not disagreeing with any of that. Things literally worked out as terribly for her as they possibly could. From the rock draw to Rachel getting an advantage. I’m just saying that once Rachel left, her fate was sealed. She was unfortunately at the bottom of Tuku and never realized it. It’s just very unfortunate for her that she ended up basically going to a Tuku tribal council
@@tmm4195 I fear Kyle & Caroline fumbled it. Tiyana did say on her exit press that she believed that if Rachel didn’t pull the safety without power, she would have still thrown a vote to Gabe to signal to the 6 watching that she wants to break free from Tuku and they can work with her. I’m just sad it didn’t happen
I half-expected Rob to greet her with, "Aloha, -Kimo- Tiyana!" 😅
If Hannah quit before 45 begins Tiyana might’ve been a jury on 45 😢
Maybe. Lulu was a trainwreck of a tribe tho. If she was on 45 and Lulu still lost the 1st challenge. Emily would've left 1st (which i wouldn't be mad at). But noone on that tribe could do puzzles. So I still think they go on a losing streak.
So she might make the jury if she's the one who survives
8 out of 12 players being immune is still a little bit jarring to me. Let the players play man!
So you’re out on Tuku but "betrayed" when they vote you out? 😅
Wait. Didnt she vote with Sue and Caroline for TK. Thinking she might have to draw rocks? But now shes saying she wouldnt want to draw rocks if she voted with TK and Kyle?
It doesnt make sense to me. To me i rather draw a rock knowing im finna switch the game up, even if it means i MIGHT go home. Compare that to just missing out on the jury because i wasnt in a good spot with the peoole i wanted to "draw rocks for". Idk
Yeah so contradictory
She explained it in that she wasn’t that tight with TK-that Kyle was a bridge between them-therefore, when TK flipped about losing, it was easy for her to just vote for him (& avoiding a tie) instead of if they were closer one-on-one and could have patched it up to discuss a true tie vote.
@ but she was unaware that gabe was partt of the plan too. She said it was big boss girl move or whatever for them 3 girls to vote for tk
@@CadeCYCDude 🤦🏾♂️ in the show from what we saw SHE SAID she is willing to go to rocks for Sue. She didn't know Gabe would vote with them for TK. She thought it was 3V3.
So her saying now she didn't want to go to rocks contradicts what we were told. So either she knew Gabe would vote for TK and knew it wasn't going to be a tie. Which is possible. Or she didn't know she was willing to go to rocks for Sue. But she's saying she didn't want to go to rocks for TK.
But the thing is thats the moment that sunk her game. She should've swallowed her pride and worked with TK. Because he's a big threat and he's someone who can be a shield for her, and was willing to work with her.
If she voted with TK and Kyle. Gabe or Caroline probably would've switched their vote. Or they would've went to rocks. And maybe she goes home, but maybe it pays off and she could've made it further.
But its a moot point. But it isn't something to write off
Yeah I’m glad to see some of these comments say how unfair this is and I believe the same… wayyy too many effing twists. Split tribal, rock draws, last second advantages being sent to someone, no time to strategize. I love Survivor but these type of things are a turn off.
I absolutely loved it. Gotta experiment with all sorts of twists otherwise each season starts to look the same and Survivor becomes dull.
Well Jeff and production would definitely agree with you there. I think there’s a line in there somewhere which you shouldn’t cross with twists and this particularly tribal I thought that line was crossed.
I was so sad when she left. She really could have won imo. Hopefully we see her again.
So how was your relationship with Travis??
…..
How about Rome?? We saw him report to you about talking with Travis, how was that experience for you??
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What was the original plan?
to vote rachel, but because she got safety without power, they couldn't
@@lafingscarecrowand (with hindsight to some extent) since Tiyana was not happy with this plan-believing it spelled doom for Tuku, she was going to stray vote Gabe & explain it to her allies /the larger group afterward (which makes total sense imo).
@@CadeCYC yes but when caroline wouldn't commit, tiyana then realized she had to go with the numbers are go for rachel.
@@lafingscarecrow well I think in the game saying t was voted out being the seventh place and Gabe did pull the vote
@@rachelsikes3879 what are you talking about?
14:47 excuse me what?
Tiyana was an on-island alternate for 45, so they spent some time with her at Ponderosa before the season began.
She kinda looks like my old highschool English teacher in this interview
"Speaking of red flags, I want to talk about sue" 💀
Tianna was a good, strong player. Would have loved to see her play post merge. She got screwed unfortunately. All these crazy twists, 1/2 the tribe immune, Carolyn saved by production. UGH!
I do too she’s only being my other favorites in the game I like Caroline sue and teeny Kyle either one of them and tianna except all of them
so sad to see her go. that whole tribal council just was not great imo.. i felt like she was wronged and i think everyone should have had a vote not five people only
I liked that they didn’t , different from mergatory in that way. Allows merge dynamics to move without large group consensus which is common in large number groups post merge .
She seems like someone that could easily be invited back. She's got strats and is a good talker.
I was crying at her emotion
We need to get rid of these split at merge episodes she never would have gone home unless it was this split. It was so sad seeing her immediately start crying
Here's a twist, it will be split tribal every single episodes to the final. 😂😂
I was going to say Bc t was upset and wants Gabe out and really the other players most with them and getting rid of the threat
bring her back for 50
oh lol no
She wasn't bad but there's many more better options😅
Are we gonna say this about every player? Ik it’s harsh but she’s not gonna be remembered by the time season 50 comes around there are way bigger personalities/ better players from the new era, and then you’ve got to account for pre 41 players too, absolutely 0 chance of returning for 50, maybe a second chance season (maybe)
Well by not as longer if she’s staying there and getting voted out again if she usually goes back again
I just dont understand how someone KNOWS that there is an idol on a feast!! How ??
It was a staple in old survivor
What if we had Shan and Tianna back for Season 50? I also think it would have been interesting if the "power" that Sol had was actually the one and only vote of the night. I would give him Agency to get out whoever he wanted, but then he could not hide behind any of the voting blocks. WE would also we the internal deliberation of who to get out instead of a 30 minute tribal.
That would he so lame. If only 1 person got to choose who went out. Thats not even fair dude.
Survivor is a social game. In the end, if you didn't/ can't make the bonds that keeps you in the game you don't deserve to win. Sometimes luck plays a part. But one person who found an advantage being to SOL (see what I did there 😂) to decide who goes home is lame.
Terrible player tbh
"Terrible" might be a bit harsh😂. There's been much much worse.
Eh she kinda got screwed
1 watching. Neat
All the women of color have been voted out btw it's like we're back in the before times☹️
I get it’s sad to see but it is genuinely weird to find racism in something like survivor and accuse these players of being racist… aysha, anika, and tiyana all made errors in their game and were voted out for it, i don’t get how that makes it racist?
Also, I’m pretty sure rachel is a woc as well
They went against the men of color. Big mistake
@@Jaja-n8rbro no one is saying it’s racism, it’s just a trend, and a sad one to see cause people want to see people like themselves go far in games like this (hence why the show has upped their diversity casting) pointing out race isn’t always racism
@@vicbrown7645 exactly, people said the same thing when Maryanne and Drea had to play their idols in 42, I get it's not racism but it's a hell of a coincidence that both people on the jury so far were Black, and the targets were the 2 remaining Black women.
Same here I get it, but it's very convenient that most of the women of color in this season were targeted early, while the white women have been allowed to advance further in the game.
I'm gonna be honest this is the first comment I've made this season, cause I stopped watching after Aysha (the only Black woman in this season mind you) was eliminated, after seeing someone else on twitter point out the disparity on who's been voted out so far I felt like I had to say something.
What is with the slime balls always staying in longer than the honest true hearted people
She is a man hater. Girls like this who suck in challenges generally cling on the gender card and form a sorority club asap. I hate when this happens. They use men like fodder. Eat the cake and want to have it too. Contestants like Parvati, Cerie, Kelly W, Anika make men look small. Rather than looking for people who are doing nothing for the team, they will generally come up with a guy's name very quickly to cover their own butt. I don't mind if a guy is an obnoxious or a bully like Rome being voted out either. Rooting for Kyle to win this season. Sue is another clumsy player who leaves her idol trail all over the place and I thought Caroline would confront her with that but I didn't see that in this episode. I am quite surprised that most of them took it so lightly. Caroline is playing smart and Sienna is playing Smart. Sam seems to have fallen for her charm and believes folks very easily. Teeny is also another liability to handle and she will go with the women card as well.
Her number one was literally a man (Kyle)… this is such projection. Please seek therapy or something because this is just weird and sad.
@@peanutbutter4435 Fyi she first proposed a girl alliance and Kyle is not a girl. He is just fodder for her to keep tabs on the guys there.
@@koshyvaidyan4741Proposing a girls alliance does not make her a man hater. Like you are being so dramatic
oh i see, a fragile masculinity
Sounds like someone who has great relationships with all the women in his life.