This game just breaks my heart. Went through so many ups and downs, been playing since halo 2 launch. Went through alcoholism with this game, I'm sober now. Seen a lot of the esports, watched a lot of halo 5 esport, played a ton of MCC too. Played a ton of local OG halo 2. Its depressing seeing how halo 4, 5, and infinite were handled. Beat halo infinite but barely played it since month 3. Just sad, the management is sad and horrific, the way halo has been just makes it hard to talk about
It’s not that bad anymore. You know there’s new management right? They fired the original crew because they were so careless and bad. I see a better future coming up for halo
@@paytonallen1027maybe in the next installment, but for Infinite, the only "parts" I see getting the game most of it's player retention (replayability) over the next few years; is the sandbox & the campaign. The number of players that grind the multiplayer (over playing customs), and the number of players that visit the shop daily-monthly will both continuously die down, with the tri-monthly player count spikes only happening because they have a $20 nostalgia cosmetic in the shop.
* Spend the first year and a half of the game's life span to "achieve seasonality"(something that should had been there day one) * Drag Joe Staten out in front of the camera to apologize for their mistakes and promise fans they'll get regular seasons soon * Sacrifice the campaign splitscreen you promised for years for quicker seasons and content * Finally achieve seasonality for...1 season * Scrap the idea of seasons entirely right after Didn't they just announce that Seasons going forward would be 50 tiers instead of 100 but Season battle passes would be full of better and more optimized content? So they drop that shit too just like they did Drop Pods? This also seems utterly ridiculous when "achieving seasonality" was the entire reason why they stopped development on the promised campaign splitscreen in the first place. Well since seasons are out then where the hell is the splitscreen campaign I was promised?
They arent focusing on campaign which is what's killing it. (AS USUAL!!!) seems to be a common theme with 343. They make beautiful looking products but cant focus on the heart of it. The story mode. Instead of getting people to waste money on cosmetics, They needed to add a campaign add on worth about 20-30 bucks where you play as a new high ranking gold zealot elite in classic elite armor who owns a battle cruiser for the Arbiter's fleet, and is ordered by the Arbiter to utilize his cruiser, of classic elites, grunts, and hunters in green colored classic covenant armor and classic covenant weapons like the blue plasma rifle, emp reach plasma pistol, carbine, etc. , classic covenant skin vehicles like the spectre, blue wraith etc. With orders given by Arbiter to find the master chief and rescue him off the ring while saving human allies along the way from the Banished where the Banished release the flood midway through or at the end. That would give halo infinite IMMENSELY more playability. Which is what makes the original 3 Halo games so good.. people have been replaying the campaign for decades!
Also, Halo Wars 2 is arguably the BEST Halo game 343 made!!! (Infinite is good too don't get me wrong I really enjoy it!) But HW2 brought something back Halo was missing for years. And it's the campaign aspect. I can rewarch those cutscenes multiple times because not only is it pretty visually but the story of it draws me in the way the original Halo games did. With that said, HW2 is very broken and needs a patch update to stop it from crashing!! Please tell 343 to fix HW2
Hey, LNG! I was playing with you last night and didnt realize it until the 3rd round. I was the other guy in the CE Mark 5 armor. The time code to find me is around the 40 minute mark! Thanks for having me!
I think 2 to 3 years after the next halo game looking back were gunna miss halo infinite I think they nailed so much but what killed it for me was the cost to change your spartan and weapon coatings and vehicle mods died almost immediately and were only paid items free to play ruined the game
Halo should never be free to play. Halo 2 , 3, and Reach nailed it with having everything already. Unlock it all to have it, secret unlocks, and only pay for new map packs/ campaign add ons.
You have to do that MCC video. They're back to their old shit of radio silence. They made Reach look like ass and that either needs to be removed or at least a toggle. They also made promises that they seem to have abandoned. While I love how far MCC has come, at the very least they should confirm if development has ended. #fixMCC
It would be nice if we could get a new mastercheief trilogy that was finished by the next game not comic books or or other media but the story is in those 3 games and side characters can devlope in the books and side media
The fact that they don’t understand what players want by now is sad. Classic halo has been screaming in their face for 10 years now and it is the answer. I guarantee if they went back to a simpler gameplay loop and make it more like Halo 3 and Reach. “Modern Halo” has been around longer now with over 10 years, so going back to a classic style would feel new.
next Halo needs to be Halo 7 - 'insert extra sauce here so we can haz hifen" because imagine the poor s.o.b wanting to do good for someone and they want to get something nice for grandchild or child in family and they get the wrong one, sure bring it back but it wont have the same punch as when handing it to the person you have in mind anymore like would you even want to do it anymore? like on Christmas imagine grandmother had spare cash to get new console and game they here the grand kid wanting but parents cant get it so superhero granny goes to buy it and worker doesnt help out and be like heres the new one or whatever and the granny ends up with egg on her face? Combat evolved was a bad start tho lol it wasnt Halo 1 but nobody at the time knew if there was gonna be another so it gets off easy peasy but Halo 5 Guardians to Infinite?! like wow i understand wanting to ditch Halo 5 as much as possible but numbered name and enemies too( whole different discussion that pisses me off as much as the launch of Infinite, like give us the ending of the Reclaimer sag, nope done goners lets move on because we;re 343i who needs to finish the fight when we make it) so now if Infinite did this id be ecstatic to get new UI and Halo Infinite rebrand as Halo 6 - Infinite then Halo 7 - The Endless and Halo 8 - whose the Endless who cares heres new enemy because god dam it 343i
For all the discussions we can have about what Halo should or shouldn't be doing in the future, as long as we give them money for what they're doing now, they have no reason to change what they're doing now. The promise of ten years of Halo Infinite was a lie, just like split screen co op. But rather than come together to attempt a class action lawsuit, Halo fans would rather give $5, $10, $20 for a helmet, or a color, or an armor kit, all free in games past. The reality is, we can debate all day and night how much Chief should or shouldn't be talking during gameplay, or if a 4% speed boost with sprint "solves" the sprint debate, Bungie weren't afraid to stand at odds with corporate pressure to ensure they released something that was fun for their players first and foremost and kept them coming back. They always strived to make a bigger and better experience. 343 being directly made by and working under Microsoft for the sole purpose of making Halo games, they have no such standing, nor ambition to up their game from the previous release with every title produced. That's why everyone's moved on. Halo used to set the standard, every developer grasped at what little Halo magic they could capture because every title defined a generation. In Halo's heyday, when it meant something, shooters adopted pre and post game lobbies, map voting/vetoing, theater mode, emblem customization, etc. Now Halo is just that, a franchise, and not an idea to iterate and innovate and hold the rest of the industry to a higher standard, and every game is worse for it. Halo doesn't mean bigger and better feature suites at launch anymore, so beloved that its release alone dominates the news cycle and shatters sales records, it means green man in suit and blue waifu, and multiplayer with cool dirt bike helmets locked behind a paywall to charge the few fans left every dollar they can squeeze out of them. The idea of Halo is long dead, and 343 continuously refuses to back down on their treatment of it so it can finally be laid to rest.
@@LateNightHalo I get that, although I kinda liked the fresh feeling of that in the halo series itself. To be fair, it was trying to be an esports oriented experience, which COD sorta is too, so I get where you're coming from
A good way to bring back the flood is to bring one of the prophets back and the flood makes them look none infected saying hes been on the great journy pulling most of the covenent back to his side by seeing him reencarnate and creating a new covenant human war while the flood takes over behind the scene then clif hang on arbitor revealing the profit is flood but only half the troops believe him
You got one thing right... the arbiter! So my idea is, basically make a campaign add on exactly like "SPV3 The commander evolved" where instead of playing as the Arbiter , you play as a new high ranking gold zealot elite in classic elite armor who owns a battle cruiser for the Arbiter's fleet, and is ordered by the Arbiter to utilize his cruiser, of classic elites, grunts, and hunters in green colored classic covenant armor and classic covenant weapons like the blue plasma rifle, emp reach plasma pistol, carbine, etc. , classic covenant skin vehicles like the spectre, blue wraith etc. With orders given by Arbiter to find the master chief and rescue him off the ring while saving human allies along the way from the Banished where the Banished now use classic weapons like the brute shot, red plasma rifle, and spiker and mauler and marines you find use classic guns like the smg, old shotgun etc. Covenant vs banished scarab fights! And eventually you see how the Banished accidently release the flood midway through or at the end.
As sad as it is to see Infinite sunset just as it really started to pick up, I'm excited to see what the team can do with a new engine and new leadership. First time I've had real hope in a decade.
This game just breaks my heart. Went through so many ups and downs, been playing since halo 2 launch. Went through alcoholism with this game, I'm sober now. Seen a lot of the esports, watched a lot of halo 5 esport, played a ton of MCC too. Played a ton of local OG halo 2. Its depressing seeing how halo 4, 5, and infinite were handled. Beat halo infinite but barely played it since month 3. Just sad, the management is sad and horrific, the way halo has been just makes it hard to talk about
It’s not that bad anymore. You know there’s new management right? They fired the original crew because they were so careless and bad. I see a better future coming up for halo
@@paytonallen1027maybe in the next installment, but for Infinite, the only "parts" I see getting the game most of it's player retention (replayability) over the next few years; is the sandbox & the campaign. The number of players that grind the multiplayer (over playing customs), and the number of players that visit the shop daily-monthly will both continuously die down, with the tri-monthly player count spikes only happening because they have a $20 nostalgia cosmetic in the shop.
@@paytonallen1027cope
You were an alcoholic over a video game? Come on now, halo means a lot to me too but that's just pathetic.
@@Ripa-Moramee your reading comprehension is pathetic
* Spend the first year and a half of the game's life span to "achieve seasonality"(something that should had been there day one)
* Drag Joe Staten out in front of the camera to apologize for their mistakes and promise fans they'll get regular seasons soon
* Sacrifice the campaign splitscreen you promised for years for quicker seasons and content
* Finally achieve seasonality for...1 season
* Scrap the idea of seasons entirely right after
Didn't they just announce that Seasons going forward would be 50 tiers instead of 100 but Season battle passes would be full of better and more optimized content? So they drop that shit too just like they did Drop Pods? This also seems utterly ridiculous when "achieving seasonality" was the entire reason why they stopped development on the promised campaign splitscreen in the first place. Well since seasons are out then where the hell is the splitscreen campaign I was promised?
Couldn't even have satisfying colors for my Spartan here... Even in H5 I did the grind and finished with a good armor set
Congrats to 343 for Speedrunning the next 10 years of Halo. That was fast!
They arent focusing on campaign which is what's killing it. (AS USUAL!!!)
seems to be a common theme with 343. They make beautiful looking products but cant focus on the heart of it. The story mode.
Instead of getting people to waste money on cosmetics, They needed to add a campaign add on worth about 20-30 bucks where you play as a new high ranking gold zealot elite in classic elite armor who owns a battle cruiser for the Arbiter's fleet, and is ordered by the Arbiter to utilize his cruiser, of classic elites, grunts, and hunters in green colored classic covenant armor and classic covenant weapons like the blue plasma rifle, emp reach plasma pistol, carbine, etc. , classic covenant skin vehicles like the spectre, blue wraith etc. With orders given by Arbiter to find the master chief and rescue him off the ring while saving human allies along the way from the Banished where the Banished release the flood midway through or at the end.
That would give halo infinite IMMENSELY more playability. Which is what makes the original 3 Halo games so good.. people have been replaying the campaign for decades!
Also, Halo Wars 2 is arguably the BEST Halo game 343 made!!! (Infinite is good too don't get me wrong I really enjoy it!)
But HW2 brought something back Halo was missing for years. And it's the campaign aspect. I can rewarch those cutscenes multiple times because not only is it pretty visually but the story of it draws me in the way the original Halo games did. With that said, HW2 is very broken and needs a patch update to stop it from crashing!! Please tell 343 to fix HW2
Aparently, them reaching "seasonality" meant not having seasons to reach
I just hope they are able to continue the story from infinite smoothly
I’m sure they will! … in the books.
Hey, LNG! I was playing with you last night and didnt realize it until the 3rd round. I was the other guy in the CE Mark 5 armor. The time code to find me is around the 40 minute mark! Thanks for having me!
I think 2 to 3 years after the next halo game looking back were gunna miss halo infinite I think they nailed so much but what killed it for me was the cost to change your spartan and weapon coatings and vehicle mods died almost immediately and were only paid items free to play ruined the game
Halo should never be free to play. Halo 2 , 3, and Reach nailed it with having everything already. Unlock it all to have it, secret unlocks, and only pay for new map packs/ campaign add ons.
The lore behind why the Sidekick and Commando dont look like a halo weapon, is just an excuse for awful weapon designs. You should know that :P
You have to do that MCC video. They're back to their old shit of radio silence. They made Reach look like ass and that either needs to be removed or at least a toggle. They also made promises that they seem to have abandoned. While I love how far MCC has come, at the very least they should confirm if development has ended. #fixMCC
It would be nice if we could get a new mastercheief trilogy that was finished by the next game not comic books or or other media but the story is in those 3 games and side characters can devlope in the books and side media
Love your content
I hope the cod team works with them weapon camos should be unlockable and weapon skins should be paid and I would be happy
They should have a skin to represent every branch in the military. Air force should get the old abu tiger stripe. Etc.
The fact that they don’t understand what players want by now is sad. Classic halo has been screaming in their face for 10 years now and it is the answer. I guarantee if they went back to a simpler gameplay loop and make it more like Halo 3 and Reach.
“Modern Halo” has been around longer now with over 10 years, so going back to a classic style would feel new.
next Halo needs to be Halo 7 - 'insert extra sauce here so we can haz hifen" because imagine the poor s.o.b wanting to do good for someone and they want to get something nice for grandchild or child in family and they get the wrong one, sure bring it back but it wont have the same punch as when handing it to the person you have in mind anymore like would you even want to do it anymore? like on Christmas imagine grandmother had spare cash to get new console and game they here the grand kid wanting but parents cant get it so superhero granny goes to buy it and worker doesnt help out and be like heres the new one or whatever and the granny ends up with egg on her face? Combat evolved was a bad start tho lol it wasnt Halo 1 but nobody at the time knew if there was gonna be another so it gets off easy peasy but Halo 5 Guardians to Infinite?! like wow i understand wanting to ditch Halo 5 as much as possible but numbered name and enemies too( whole different discussion that pisses me off as much as the launch of Infinite, like give us the ending of the Reclaimer sag, nope done goners lets move on because we;re 343i who needs to finish the fight when we make it) so now if Infinite did this id be ecstatic to get new UI and Halo Infinite rebrand as Halo 6 - Infinite then Halo 7 - The Endless and Halo 8 - whose the Endless who cares heres new enemy because god dam it 343i
For all the discussions we can have about what Halo should or shouldn't be doing in the future, as long as we give them money for what they're doing now, they have no reason to change what they're doing now. The promise of ten years of Halo Infinite was a lie, just like split screen co op. But rather than come together to attempt a class action lawsuit, Halo fans would rather give $5, $10, $20 for a helmet, or a color, or an armor kit, all free in games past.
The reality is, we can debate all day and night how much Chief should or shouldn't be talking during gameplay, or if a 4% speed boost with sprint "solves" the sprint debate, Bungie weren't afraid to stand at odds with corporate pressure to ensure they released something that was fun for their players first and foremost and kept them coming back. They always strived to make a bigger and better experience. 343 being directly made by and working under Microsoft for the sole purpose of making Halo games, they have no such standing, nor ambition to up their game from the previous release with every title produced.
That's why everyone's moved on. Halo used to set the standard, every developer grasped at what little Halo magic they could capture because every title defined a generation. In Halo's heyday, when it meant something, shooters adopted pre and post game lobbies, map voting/vetoing, theater mode, emblem customization, etc. Now Halo is just that, a franchise, and not an idea to iterate and innovate and hold the rest of the industry to a higher standard, and every game is worse for it. Halo doesn't mean bigger and better feature suites at launch anymore, so beloved that its release alone dominates the news cycle and shatters sales records, it means green man in suit and blue waifu, and multiplayer with cool dirt bike helmets locked behind a paywall to charge the few fans left every dollar they can squeeze out of them. The idea of Halo is long dead, and 343 continuously refuses to back down on their treatment of it so it can finally be laid to rest.
Halo 5 multiplayer still fucking rocks
Eeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh disagreeee
@@LateNightHalo But whyyyy? Super Fiesta TDM and ranked Swat still go hard. Infection is hit or miss at times
It’s just too different from how halo normally is for my tastes. A bit too much like COD with the ADS, clambering, etc
@@LateNightHalo I get that, although I kinda liked the fresh feeling of that in the halo series itself. To be fair, it was trying to be an esports oriented experience, which COD sorta is too, so I get where you're coming from
A good way to bring back the flood is to bring one of the prophets back and the flood makes them look none infected saying hes been on the great journy pulling most of the covenent back to his side by seeing him reencarnate and creating a new covenant human war while the flood takes over behind the scene then clif hang on arbitor revealing the profit is flood but only half the troops believe him
You got one thing right... the arbiter!
So my idea is, basically make a campaign add on exactly like "SPV3 The commander evolved"
where instead of playing as the Arbiter , you play as a new high ranking gold zealot elite in classic elite armor who owns a battle cruiser for the Arbiter's fleet, and is ordered by the Arbiter to utilize his cruiser, of classic elites, grunts, and hunters in green colored classic covenant armor and classic covenant weapons like the blue plasma rifle, emp reach plasma pistol, carbine, etc. , classic covenant skin vehicles like the spectre, blue wraith etc. With orders given by Arbiter to find the master chief and rescue him off the ring while saving human allies along the way from the Banished where the Banished now use classic weapons like the brute shot, red plasma rifle, and spiker and mauler and marines you find use classic guns like the smg, old shotgun etc.
Covenant vs banished scarab fights! And eventually you see how the Banished accidently release the flood midway through or at the end.
Bro turn your game volume down ffs
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As sad as it is to see Infinite sunset just as it really started to pick up, I'm excited to see what the team can do with a new engine and new leadership. First time I've had real hope in a decade.
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