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Seriously solid words of wisdom here. I'm coming off a 7 month break from throwing anything due to some medical stuff. Perfect timing to hear all this and check my own expectations and goals
Great video brother. A lot of really helpful tips. I'm stuck at 300 ft max distance but I've been putting in some off season work but I'm shooting for 350 this summer!
Good advice and nice editing! Really interesting to see the changes in your form over the years. I've been fine with slower progression myself but I still get out pretty much every weekend. I think it's important to remember that any change you make in the field is going to slip away on the course unless you really hold your cues in your mind. Those cues have to be simplified for when you're actually aiming down a fairway and not just in a field.
I almost don't even play. I grind so much in the field and with my net. I am 18 months in and nonstop work. Still only around 300 feet at best. I improved a lot last winter. I am stuck, but working from the Beto drill out.
I was stuck at 300, for me getting a better follow through kept acceleration going through the hit and that got me 330 but I’ve been stuck there for ages. Like a year and something so I get it. I also found this Beto drill. I actually practiced touching the dish to my chest, knowing that I’ll rotate when I do the actual throw, and I can say that it has greatly increased the accuracy of the release but distance hasn’t increased at all though yet. I’m working on keeping the arm looser getting the disc to my chest first before any major firing and I can feel the speed of the arm flying through. The one thing when I record though I find nearly incomprehensible is rotation with this. I get the disc tight and fly the disc out on a string but have minimal lower body movement, then when I try firing the bottom hand to get the feet in a “pro” position I’m immediately too open on the chest and send way off right. Doesn’t make sense at all… if you want to pull the disc on a straight line it only will do that with the shoulders and feet square to your target but it doesn’t seem to be the position most pros find themselves a second before release. Not sure…
This is the advice that has been missing from other channels. Thx! I learned all these lessons when I went from good athlete to professional frisbee player 1976-1980. I took 41 years off and at age 70, re-experiencing all your wisdoms as I strive to move back on top. There are no shortcuts to becoming the best you can be. PDGA #308
Something that changed my game entirely is speed does not equal distance while yes you can get some pretty good distance by just full forcing it with good form but what really is important for distance is disc rotation. I cannot stress this enough if the disc is not rotating, it is not catching air.
when i was new and couldnt throw forehands i would never do it and i told a guy on my card "yea it comes out wobbly i dont throw that" and he was like "well how many hundreds of reps have you put in?" and i was like damn he's got a point. I really never put enough practice in like you said it takes a lot of work and time spent, no way around it. I just hit 65.8 mph tonight rhbh im so pumped
Solid stuff. Following very similar practice around 5 years now I can throw about 150m(490feet?). Also one thing I would like to add which might be controversial is sometimes pro disc golfer advice is very vague and not as precise as some of the coaches. Might be because a lot of them learned to throw when they were kids and it came naturally to them over the years so they dont really know what it is that makes their throw so good.
Are you saying you threw over 350 out of the gate? The first time I picked up a disc golf disc I expected to fly like a frisbee. Oh boy, those first few weeks I couldn’t throw over 150 feet.
the first time I started measuring my throws and doing form work that’s how far I threw. I played very infrequently a couple years before that… probably threw about the same distance. I played ultimate and was able to throw pretty far pretty quickly.
great video, been watching your form changes, excellent progress! you are exactly right about all this. i see stuff in your 2025 i wouldn’t have seen before. its a constant foggy ladder you can see down where you’ve been, but only one rung up
This is great stuff. There is one exception to tips not adding 50ft instantly. A couple times I've found brand new players on the course and helped them go from throwing 200ft to almost 300ft in a matter of hours. Very much the exception, it's easy to make improvements if the person hasn't had time to develop bad habits, and they already have a base of being reasonably athletic. I'm definitely on a plateau right now. Over the last year I effectively relearned how to throw backhand. I havent gained much distance yet (400ft > 420ft), but now I have occasional fluke throws breaking 500ft. I definitely agree about max distance lines, all of my practice is hyzer flips. One thing I'd add about practice: depending on what you're trying to achieve, it's not enough to simply throw a lot. Consistent improvement requires Intentional targeted practice. Knowing HOW to practice often is half the battle.
Good video! The single best thing I did was get a techdisc and a net. I struggled to throw 300 since I started playing and 4 sessions of techdisc later I throw 400' golf lines both backhand and forehand with the undertaker. My form still suck ass but I'm patient.
Yeah I had an issue of getting from that 450-500’ range and I got a TechDisc. I learned a lot about my angles but honestly you don’t throw the same into a net. It ruined my form and I had to stop throwing it so much. Could barely throw 400’ for a week. I’ll throw 30-50 shots into it every month if even that and my distance came back. Really helped with realizing what I thought was anhyzer was actually more flat and I’m more of a natural 15deg hyzer guy. Everyone should try one just don’t get too lost in them it’s just not like throwing in a field and filming yourself. That’s the biggest thing. Also go watch Gannon old videos if you wannna throw 500’
@@julianseyal search “how to throw far in disc disc golf with Gannon buhr” there is also one about how to add 75’ to you throw by him. Very helpful and simple they are from 2years ago enjoy!
I agree. Im the person who obsessively started form work, field work, learning discs, and exercising three times with lifts. I was getting distance. I started throwing with a loose arm. Now I’m injured from that. Just as my distance was easily cracking 400 without trying as hard. I’m really bummed. I tried throw now it’s worst. Just as season starting.
That sucks, man. I just started to relax my arm more while throwing and am starting to crack 400 as well. What would you recommend doing differently to keep from injury (I am recovering from a shoulder injury also, but from something else).
@ I think warming up is especially important and while I did do some warm-up throws, maybe serious stretching. Probably following through. I don’t know if that’s one of my strengths especially because I was just starting to brace better. Also listen to your body so if you feel a little injury to take some time off to rest and ice. Listen to your body. It was bothering me a little bit, but I kept lifting weight and lifting waist, didn’t bother me any but then I went throwing again and I wasn’t able to fully power up so I thought it was OK since I was not powering up, but I was wrong now I think I’m in a 6 to 8 time window of being off if I’m lucky
How much would you say arm speed and spin rate is tied to distance assuming someone has decent form? I am 62 and have decent form. My max arm speed is about 55 mph and max spin rate is around 1050-1100 rpm. I have am in reasonable shape for my age, so how much might I be limited by arm speed and spin rate?
Do you have any tips optimizing practice sessions when recording yourself? Like are you looking at a video after every single throw? Or recording a handful of throws in a single video and then going back to watch before throwing again?
My advice, for what it’s worth is I warm up then I film 5 throws in a row. I take that video and use an app called capcut (free) to edit the clip so just my throw is in slow motion. I do that for all 5 throws then I watch it and repeat if necessary. Doing 5 reps is nice cause it puts the pressure on to get in good throws and not just take the best out of 25 throws. And it’s not too much to take in at once. But that’s just like my opinion, man.
It's interesting you mentioned your thumb position. I am struggling with my thumb slipping to the outside of the disc. I can feel it happening prior to release. It just started happening and cannot figure out 1) why it is happening 2) what to do to stop it. Any tips or cues you used?
What about nose angle? Was this just never a worry? Did the arm position help dramatically with this? I’m stuck at 330 and feeling like it’s all I have but I’ve always thought nose angle could be huge. I have not heard it mentioned once by you so was it just shoulders and arm position that fixed it?
@@TylerTiede That makes sense as a few of my friends that have reached the 450 mark they too said they never worried about that and just throw flat through, but maybe they somehow instinctively got to throwing nose down. I for the life of me though cannot get negative nose angle like they are stating you need (neg 4 to neg 7). The turning the wrist and pouring the coffee, none of that really works.
Sometimes i go through periods where i cant for the life of me get my normal distance. I normally avg about 350' max distance. When im going through my episodes i cant get anything to flip up and i max out around 290' :/ sometimes if i stop playing for a couple weeks it fixes the issue, could it be mental?
Whenever I watch a form advise video made by an amateur disc golfer, I wonder what their credentials are, like their PDGA rating, amount of tournaments won etc.
I try to be very transparent about my play outside of the channel so my viewers know what to expect from me. I'm always surprised when other channels don't share that info at all
Hey, since we're talking technique, your deadlift form needs some work. You start with your hips too low which causes you to shoot them up before you can even move the weight. You lose most of your leg drive and you put unnecessary strain on your lower back. Fix: start with your hips a bit higher and shoulders more over the bar then really focus on leg drive (ie. leg press the world away). Happy deadlifting!
@ started 3 years ago around 200 now maybe 350… like you say it’s a slow process. Only a few form videos are actually useful. Most are just pushing content.
I’m pretty sure he’s natty. He was ripped even when he lived in his prius. There’s no way he was paying for gear and hiding it. He just has really good genetics. Regardless, he still spends lots of time in the gym and on the course staying in good shape and has had no injuries in his career. He’s exactly the sort of example you should look to.
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The Bert clip is unreasonably hilarious lol
The Bert K clip while talking about being lean was 😂😂😂.
Seriously solid words of wisdom here. I'm coming off a 7 month break from throwing anything due to some medical stuff. Perfect timing to hear all this and check my own expectations and goals
Great video brother. A lot of really helpful tips. I'm stuck at 300 ft max distance but I've been putting in some off season work but I'm shooting for 350 this summer!
Good advice and nice editing! Really interesting to see the changes in your form over the years. I've been fine with slower progression myself but I still get out pretty much every weekend.
I think it's important to remember that any change you make in the field is going to slip away on the course unless you really hold your cues in your mind. Those cues have to be simplified for when you're actually aiming down a fairway and not just in a field.
Guitars, Orange cab, stacks of discs and a cat perch in the window. Are you at my house? lol solid advise Sir
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I almost don't even play. I grind so much in the field and with my net. I am 18 months in and nonstop work. Still only around 300 feet at best. I improved a lot last winter. I am stuck, but working from the Beto drill out.
I was stuck at 300, for me getting a better follow through kept acceleration going through the hit and that got me 330 but I’ve been stuck there for ages. Like a year and something so I get it. I also found this Beto drill. I actually practiced touching the dish to my chest, knowing that I’ll rotate when I do the actual throw, and I can say that it has greatly increased the accuracy of the release but distance hasn’t increased at all though yet. I’m working on keeping the arm looser getting the disc to my chest first before any major firing and I can feel the speed of the arm flying through. The one thing when I record though I find nearly incomprehensible is rotation with this. I get the disc tight and fly the disc out on a string but have minimal lower body movement, then when I try firing the bottom hand to get the feet in a “pro” position I’m immediately too open on the chest and send way off right. Doesn’t make sense at all… if you want to pull the disc on a straight line it only will do that with the shoulders and feet square to your target but it doesn’t seem to be the position most pros find themselves a second before release. Not sure…
Phenomenal video! I’m at the start of my journey tapped out at 350’. This was an awesome video to watch starting out
This is the advice that has been missing from other channels. Thx!
I learned all these lessons when I went from good athlete to professional frisbee player 1976-1980.
I took 41 years off and at age 70, re-experiencing all your wisdoms as I strive to move back on top.
There are no shortcuts to becoming the best you can be. PDGA #308
Something that changed my game entirely is speed does not equal distance while yes you can get some pretty good distance by just full forcing it with good form but what really is important for distance is disc rotation. I cannot stress this enough if the disc is not rotating, it is not catching air.
@@voidednexsus101 how do you improve your RPM?
@ I’m definitely not expert nor a coach but I’d say focus on your wrist flick
@ even with backhand?
when i was new and couldnt throw forehands i would never do it and i told a guy on my card "yea it comes out wobbly i dont throw that" and he was like "well how many hundreds of reps have you put in?" and i was like damn he's got a point. I really never put enough practice in
like you said it takes a lot of work and time spent, no way around it. I just hit 65.8 mph tonight rhbh im so pumped
Solid stuff. Following very similar practice around 5 years now I can throw about 150m(490feet?). Also one thing I would like to add which might be controversial is sometimes pro disc golfer advice is very vague and not as precise as some of the coaches. Might be because a lot of them learned to throw when they were kids and it came naturally to them over the years so they dont really know what it is that makes their throw so good.
Totally agree! Always good to keep in mind that teaching/communicating and throwing are different skill sets.
Are you saying you threw over 350 out of the gate? The first time I picked up a disc golf disc I expected to fly like a frisbee. Oh boy, those first few weeks I couldn’t throw over 150 feet.
the first time I started measuring my throws and doing form work that’s how far I threw. I played very infrequently a couple years before that… probably threw about the same distance. I played ultimate and was able to throw pretty far pretty quickly.
great video, been watching your form changes, excellent progress! you are exactly right about all this. i see stuff in your 2025 i wouldn’t have seen before. its a constant foggy ladder you can see down where you’ve been, but only one rung up
good tips! gotta put in the work 💪
I’ve definitely given people tips that added 50’ in a session.
good stuff. there are no short cuts to getting better. you might as well decide to enjoy the journey , i know i do.
This is great stuff. There is one exception to tips not adding 50ft instantly. A couple times I've found brand new players on the course and helped them go from throwing 200ft to almost 300ft in a matter of hours. Very much the exception, it's easy to make improvements if the person hasn't had time to develop bad habits, and they already have a base of being reasonably athletic.
I'm definitely on a plateau right now. Over the last year I effectively relearned how to throw backhand. I havent gained much distance yet (400ft > 420ft), but now I have occasional fluke throws breaking 500ft.
I definitely agree about max distance lines, all of my practice is hyzer flips.
One thing I'd add about practice: depending on what you're trying to achieve, it's not enough to simply throw a lot. Consistent improvement requires Intentional targeted practice. Knowing HOW to practice often is half the battle.
So many truths.
Great advice
Good video! The single best thing I did was get a techdisc and a net. I struggled to throw 300 since I started playing and 4 sessions of techdisc later I throw 400' golf lines both backhand and forehand with the undertaker. My form still suck ass but I'm patient.
Same!
Yeah I had an issue of getting from that 450-500’ range and I got a TechDisc. I learned a lot about my angles but honestly you don’t throw the same into a net. It ruined my form and I had to stop throwing it so much. Could barely throw 400’ for a week. I’ll throw 30-50 shots into it every month if even that and my distance came back. Really helped with realizing what I thought was anhyzer was actually more flat and I’m more of a natural 15deg hyzer guy. Everyone should try one just don’t get too lost in them it’s just not like throwing in a field and filming yourself. That’s the biggest thing. Also go watch Gannon old videos if you wannna throw 500’
@@arrowhead9027 which Gannon videos?
@@julianseyal search “how to throw far in disc disc golf with Gannon buhr” there is also one about how to add 75’ to you throw by him. Very helpful and simple they are from 2years ago enjoy!
Great video, very true!
I agree. Im the person who obsessively started form work, field work, learning discs, and exercising three times with lifts. I was getting distance. I started throwing with a loose arm.
Now I’m injured from that. Just as my distance was easily cracking 400 without trying as hard. I’m really bummed. I tried throw now it’s worst. Just as season starting.
That sucks, man. I just started to relax my arm more while throwing and am starting to crack 400 as well. What would you recommend doing differently to keep from injury (I am recovering from a shoulder injury also, but from something else).
@ I think warming up is especially important and while I did do some warm-up throws, maybe serious stretching. Probably following through. I don’t know if that’s one of my strengths especially because I was just starting to brace better.
Also listen to your body so if you feel a little injury to take some time off to rest and ice. Listen to your body. It was bothering me a little bit, but I kept lifting weight and lifting waist, didn’t bother me any but then I went throwing again and I wasn’t able to fully power up so I thought it was OK since I was not powering up, but I was wrong now I think I’m in a 6 to 8 time window of being off if I’m lucky
How much would you say arm speed and spin rate is tied to distance assuming someone has decent form? I am 62 and have decent form. My max arm speed is about 55 mph and max spin rate is around 1050-1100 rpm. I have am in reasonable shape for my age, so how much might I be limited by arm speed and spin rate?
Do you have any tips optimizing practice sessions when recording yourself? Like are you looking at a video after every single throw? Or recording a handful of throws in a single video and then going back to watch before throwing again?
@@iBePancakez i do both, it depends on what I’m trying to work on.
My advice, for what it’s worth is I warm up then I film 5 throws in a row. I take that video and use an app called capcut (free) to edit the clip so just my throw is in slow motion. I do that for all 5 throws then I watch it and repeat if necessary. Doing 5 reps is nice cause it puts the pressure on to get in good throws and not just take the best out of 25 throws. And it’s not too much to take in at once. But that’s just like my opinion, man.
@@davesage4931 Sounds like a pretty good opinion, man. Thanks for the advice.
Tyler lot of wisdom here. Spitting hot fire. Sub'd
The Bert throw for examples of being out of shape is hilarious.
2:13
Probably bent out of shape! LOL
It's interesting you mentioned your thumb position. I am struggling with my thumb slipping to the outside of the disc. I can feel it happening prior to release. It just started happening and cannot figure out 1) why it is happening 2) what to do to stop it. Any tips or cues you used?
I basically just threw over and over and focused really hard on not letting my thumb move at all. took months to fix.
What about nose angle? Was this just never a worry? Did the arm position help dramatically with this? I’m stuck at 330 and feeling like it’s all I have but I’ve always thought nose angle could be huge. I have not heard it mentioned once by you so was it just shoulders and arm position that fixed it?
@@fishblade2 I think so. I’ve never had any problems throwing nose down. Maybe something worth looking into with a tech disc for a future video…
@@TylerTiede That makes sense as a few of my friends that have reached the 450 mark they too said they never worried about that and just throw flat through, but maybe they somehow instinctively got to throwing nose down. I for the life of me though cannot get negative nose angle like they are stating you need (neg 4 to neg 7). The turning the wrist and pouring the coffee, none of that really works.
Sometimes i go through periods where i cant for the life of me get my normal distance. I normally avg about 350' max distance. When im going through my episodes i cant get anything to flip up and i max out around 290' :/ sometimes if i stop playing for a couple weeks it fixes the issue, could it be mental?
@@Thebunholio could be anything lol
@TylerTiede 🤣
Whenever I watch a form advise video made by an amateur disc golfer, I wonder what their credentials are, like their PDGA rating, amount of tournaments won etc.
I try to be very transparent about my play outside of the channel so my viewers know what to expect from me. I'm always surprised when other channels don't share that info at all
Hey, since we're talking technique, your deadlift form needs some work. You start with your hips too low which causes you to shoot them up before you can even move the weight. You lose most of your leg drive and you put unnecessary strain on your lower back.
Fix: start with your hips a bit higher and shoulders more over the bar then really focus on leg drive (ie. leg press the world away). Happy deadlifting!
@krpi7685 thanks lol. I know my deadlift form is bad, that’s why I was videoing it in the first place 😅
Too late. I’ve already watched about 700 other form videos.
@@user-ws9di5kp9h you must throw really far now
@ started 3 years ago around 200 now maybe 350… like you say it’s a slow process. Only a few form videos are actually useful. Most are just pushing content.
@ true that
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Did not add 200 feet in 20 minutes.
Downvote.
Should of stopped at 3 minutes in, you must learn on your own or it's not gonna happen.
Ezra is on steroids.
Not a good example for being in shape
I’m pretty sure he’s natty. He was ripped even when he lived in his prius. There’s no way he was paying for gear and hiding it. He just has really good genetics. Regardless, he still spends lots of time in the gym and on the course staying in good shape and has had no injuries in his career. He’s exactly the sort of example you should look to.