How Not To Mig Weld
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When you pull the trigger, the initial "slow speed" is the actual wire feed rate you will be welding at, it's not for starting the arc. It only speeds up if it senses you are not welding, assuming you are needing to feed wire rapidly ( to load a new spool, etc...). It will NOT do that if you are welding.
Covering that gap.
Aka "jog feature"
Nice. That's what I was thinking and figured I'd check the comments for an answer before I asked the question. Looks like a nice product but I really don't have the cash to spend on one. Maybe some day.
was looking only for this comment XD
Python 357 lmao took the words right outta my mouth
Very nice Cody...I'm in the market for a Miller Bobcat myself for building this metal fence around the farm. Right now I'm working with an Eastwood 135 Welder which is doing the job for me very good so far. Thanks for the video buddy. Your friend in North Carolina Stoney Ridge Farmer
As I have gotten older, I appreciate quietness. From work in my youth and listening to music in a loud car I have some hearing loss. Maybe that is a blessing.
I've been a professional diesel mechanic & welder / fabricator for 25 years. I've had a Miller 211 at home for over 10 years and it's served me extremely well. It should serve you very well and it's nice to see they really haven't changed much other than the outside looks. I typically use 75/25 mix with mild steel wire but I have used it with flux core (no gas needed) and dual shield with CO2 gas and flux core which works really good for dirty steel. I also have the Spoolmate 150 spool gun I use for aluminum and stainless steel, it's a great addition that you should look into. Once you have the capability for aluminum and stainless, you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. It works so good in fact, I've never bothered to buy a TIG welder for home.
The cart you got is a nice one, but I've come to appreciate a cart with drawers because stuff tends to fall off when rolling offroad like you were. Do yourself a favor and upgrade to some larger pneumatic wheels, it'll make offroad travel a lot easier.
I've found myself not adjusting the dials very often and going with the auto set. It really is handy. One thing you will want to do is unbolt the cover on the side and put a small hose clamp on the gas hose and hose barb, I found mine leaked at first and it was a simple fix. I make it a habit of turning the gas off when I'm done too.
Congratulations on the Miller, it's all I use for a reason.
i’ve run aluminum through my 175 without any jamming issues. Maybe i’ve just been lucky.
only a West Cost guy would wear a Lincoln Welding jacket and use a Miller Welder, East Cost have more respect for Miller Welders
Back in my day we welded with Lincoln and drank miller
Miller, great welding mechines, really shitty beer.
lol seems petty that you think if you buy a brand you have to wear all that brand. Ur a Tool. get lost
cchaffin2012 ya Harley guys hate wearing all Harley gear...
Lol
Pro tip: keep the nozzle on the weld for a couple of seconds after you let go of the button. There is a delay on the shielding gas to protect the weld as it cools.
I am no pro but do pick up the welder quite a bit and I have to say that is a fantastic choice for anyone besides someone doing it for a living. I have 4 of them in my shop and the simplicity can’t be beat.
Using the wire without the shielding gas.. also known as FCAW-S (innershield, flux core). Whatever you want to call it, is fantastic for welding outside especially. The wind doesn’t give you porosity and you don’t have to learn the huge learning curve that stick welding requires. We use innershield occasionally at the structural steel shop I work at here in Spokane, WA 👌🏻
My father in law and brother in law are the best fabricators and welders i know. Owning a dairy farm and doing 99% of all your repairs over the years builds the experience! Great work cody! God bless.
It takes a brave man to put his welding online. Best quote I have heard, LOL. Most of us are just weekend warriors at this stuff. I do not have a mig welder but I would love one.
Me being East Coast would love to try it out. LOL
I have been on the fence about purchasing a Miller 211 for the last year. I am going to buying one now thanks to your video. Appreciate your "common man's" opinion.
"Noise Pollution " never heard it said that way but so true. One of the great feelings is when you've been working around equipment for a few hours and finally get to turn everything off. Silence is awesome.
Unless you have tinnitus!
I just listen to mucic...problem solved.
The sound of progress kind of drowns out a fan in a production shop.
A tip I was thought when I couldn’t see my lines was to mark it with soap stone. Idk if you have ever tried but it helped me a lot keeping lines straight
I was quoted $300 to fix (weld) some outdoor metal furniture. For a couple bucks more I bought a nice stick welder and now I pray for things to break so I can weld. It’s a ton of fun!
You can't have a welder without a cart, but with a welder you can build a cart... You are such a brave man indeed. There's no way I would have the guts to put my welding skills on RUclips. There is a world of professionals out there just waiting to pounce.
Good job, Cody! Welding is as much art as it is welding, I always suggest welding scrap of the same thicknesses of your project before striking a spark on the project. I've got a Hobart Handler 175 and a 4000W generator for a small portable weld repair unit. I do disagree with the statement that the pros wont comment, I am a pro and still like to comment and I hope it helps you and your next project to practice, practice, practice!!!
Those machines are really nice. I have a Lincoln MIG but will happily upgrade to a Miller or Hobart some day just to get the dual voltage option. I have a Miller stick welder that has never failed me with years of use. Good video. I need a portaband table stand too!
Flux core ( inner shield) is the wire you were thinking of, definitely what you want to use for outdoors, it also burns a little hotter so you can get a little more from the 120 side of things. That’s a sweet machine!
I do a lot of welding on the farm. My go to welder is a dual voltage DC inverter stick welder.
@TJP 81 Could be. Stick is completely manual while MIG is semiautomatic in this case.
Buy welder without cart, first project weld a cart 😆
Exactly...here is my first build. ruclips.net/video/GciwXW5C5tE/видео.html
@@SteveSmith-wl8yq nice cart
@@gnoel5722 Thank you....it has been working out very nicely! :-)
My first thought also
Thats what im doing right now. Just need to make a trip to the metal yard for a couple more things to finish it up.
Hey Cody, someone esle has probably said this already, but just in case they havent, thats what flux cored is for, you dont need gas. Youre right, im not a pro, but this much i do know. God bless you and your family!
I have an Everlast SMAW/GTAW machine in my home shop and the fan sounds like a hair dryer and runs constantly. Having the fan shut down when it isn't needed is a worthwhile feature. BTW, other than the noise, the welder is totally awesome. Highly recommended.
East Coast guy here! Loved your video on the Miller 211.
Thanks...👍😃
Lol, that’s very true cody! The last thing you’ll find me watching on RUclips after spending 8-10 hrs of working on locomotives is watching more electrical power generation concerning locomotives.
I live near Pittsburgh here on the east coast. I love your little east coast jabs.
I have the little brother of this thing (the 141i), and they are great welders. I've only welded a few small things with it, but i've been happy.
I’m a Miller guy through and through. When you hold the trigger down without striking the arc you get the wire to feed faster but it doesn’t flow gas through the solenoid. This is for when you’re feeding wire through your gun on setup or after changing spools.
You can use self shielded flux core which is just cored wire and treat it almost like stick welding. Great for outside projects when there is wind that could blow out your shielding gas of solid wire. You can also try shielded flux cure (dual-shield). It’s for heavier work but is usable in these smaller machines. Most guys claim it’s almost like running a 7018 welding rod and meets most structural requirements.
the only factor that isn't for "the common guy" is the price: $1300
Mac Family that’s honestly pretty cheap for a Miller or Lincoln, these are welders designed more for the professionals, not the weekend warrior
@Doug Deshawn how come no one mentions Hobart oh, they're made by Miller and every bit as good as Miller but about 2/3 the cost.
@Doug Deshawn I think that is changed and our latest stuff is actually pretty dang good as far as my research goes anyways
@Doug Deshawn understood , I can't argue with that
@Doug Deshawn way cheaper *than* mate, not "then"
You make some really good videos for a west coast guy . Ha been watching for a few years luv the vids
Great video! East coast guys weld once and admire their work.....not make excuses:P Good job sir!
A good old school pro guy can’t comment on that welder, what the hells a steel thickness setting. Power and wire feed, anything else is experience😁
Buy cheap, buy twice. The amount of times I wished I'd heeded my own advice. I try to avoid sales persons like the plague now, so I dont get swayed by thier "recommendation" 🙄
I prefer buy quality tools once that will last .. But when i started my making hobby and didnt know what i needed .. My though was just get the biggest and baddest tool i could for the job .. But after playing around for couple of years , I've learned alot more about tools and more importantly what my needs for tools is... So now i still buy quality tools (try to stick to brands like Wurth, Wera, Wiha etc, mainly german tools) however for the tools that get little use, like few times a year I dont go for the nicest i can find, I just go for the low or mid range since it only has to do few jobs a year... But i totally agree, the sales person is the last person i take recommendations from , i rather talk to some of my friends that are contractors, mechanics etc ad get advice from them on tools before i visit the store :)
Esab is quite away from cheap
@@TheGFS Würth isn't a manufacturer but is a retailer
They sell
Globe (Italian abrasives manufacturer)
Bosch Professional
Metabo
Fein
Milwaukee
Stel(Italian welding manufacturer)
Wera
Usag (Italian hand/air tools manufacturer)
Stahlwille
Knipex
And a bunch of others
They only produce hardwer such screws and fixing products also chemicals
@@daniele3275 they make drills and all kinds of other tools , just google "Wurth drill" or "wurth tools"
@@TheGFS they are not Würth they are only rebranded
I'm actively shopping MIG machines right now, this is exactly what I need. Always appreciate your content.
You won't find a better welder for home
@@tedmattingly7564 Sounds like it, I was looking at the similar model Lincoln... but, I love the newb friendly controls on this. I literally just need it for hobby welding and fixing random implements, etc around the house. Fits the bill nicely.
If you're going to be doing fair bit of welding outside you might consider a spool of innersheild wire. You won't have to worry about shielding gas or the porosity caused when it gets blown away by wind. The weld won't be a pretty as a gas shielded bead but it'll still be prettier than a bead put down with wind blowing the shield gas away and you won't have to break out the grinder to remove porosity. I used Lincoln NR-232 for structural steel as an Ironworker but something like Lincoln NR-211 worked great when we did more ornamental stuff (handrail, steel stud anchors, light gauge plate). Also a nice set of magnetic positioners will make holding things a lot easier for fit up. I would also switch out my ground clamp to a magnetic one if I was going to be doing a lot of ornamental stuff.
That's quite a welder you've got, Cody. I hope you'll be able to find more projects around the property to make use of it. Those aren't cheap machines. By the way, thank you for releasing your videos in 4k. I love the added video bitrate RUclips gives it over 1080p.
Very nice unit!
I've got a MIG Hobart Handler 175 with gas bottles, its a good welder, funny thing is the gun is a Miller unit, I guess maybe Miller owns Hobart?
I've also got a stick welder and a TIG.
I've got a fair bit of time on the MIG, but not nearly enough on the TIG, I can weld stick too.
The newer machines are great, so much easier to use, and I have to say I LOVE the idea of the fan turning off, in my small shop that would be a nice thing to have.
That wire size selector is great.
I'm sure your grand kids will be using that Miller welder on day.
Cheers from Tokyo!
Tracked it down. Illinois tool works owns both now. Miller in '93 and Hobart in '99. I have a Hobart Handler 140. I really like it. One day I might get a bigger 240v welder for thicker stuff but this one does what I need it to do for now. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Tool_Works
@@supercow75 Yeah the Hobart Handler 175 does not exist anymore, I think it's the 185 now? Good machine, and the 240 with 100% CO2 will weld 1/4" plate easily.
I have a Hobart Handler 187 and love it. I was told when i bought it from a farm implement store that Hobart and Miller are basically the same or at least they share the same basic parts.
That's the same machine that I bought. Absolutely brilliant machine. It is like using a hot glue gun for metal.
Didnt catch the price how much did it cost?
@@dewaynesqually9823 with the cart that sucker is like $1600, would love to have one, but a little pricey for me right now.......
@@dewaynesqually9823 I paid 2100 but that came with the tank Miller Helmet, Gloves, 1 spool of flex wire, 1 spool of regular wire, and a custom welded cart
Have to be impressed with this man, he is not only loneing a trailer to friends of his parents he also takes the time to fix it and make sure its ready for them. God bless you and yours wranglerstar, if the world had more people like the wranglerstar family it would be a much better place to live.
thanks for this. you know not to listen to the haters. novices appreciate the realism and hints and showing your real welds. makes it approachable.
After watching this, I got on the net and bought a Millermatic 212 (used) for $1200. Thanks for the info.
Remembered to thumbs up when I heard the "even the east coast guys should be able to handle it." Cheers from Charlotte NC
Personally the only experience with miller is the synchrowave 210 and its a dual purpose spoolgun tig and stick and i love it. Dual voltage too. And im 16 learning to tig and i love the simplicity.
The flux core wire is the wire you don't need the gas it's good for welding dirty old metal or just anything in general and can run a really nice bead once you get the hang of it.... really nice set-up you have their ain't nothing better than a Miller welder
Bought that same welder about 6 months ago. It’s been great! Puts down some nice welds.
pruhfeshunal weldur here!!!
ill take a miller anyday.. especially over an esab.
all we have at work is millers, and its for good reason!
Good review, My wife was intrigued by the model 211 being capable of operating with 120 volts. If I move to that MIG, she won’t have to peddle the generator as hard while I work! It’s a Tennessee thing...
I just purchase a used 211 but the older model and it is a great machine, sold my really old Lincoln 255 wirematic. My miller syncrowave is the eolder model and has fan on thermostat as well and is nice to have a quieter machine
This east coast guy has been using a millermatic for years, looks like the left coaster is late catching on. 😂
This spring I bought a Miller Milermatic 215 and I really love it!
It's almost the same welder, but has the ability to do TIG, and Stick weld on top of the MIG welding and spool gun the 211 can do.
I and it has a digital display as well.
I almost went with the 211 as it was cheaper, but I decided being able to do Stick and TIG was worth the extra money and saved me from buying 2 more welders.
They really are great machines tho!
For sure the best welder I have used yet.
Lay your flat bar on end for more strengthening support instead of flat across the welded area. You could use less then, take the one piece and cut it into two separate pieces and then weld those two pieces on end across the welded joint. Better strength. Also keep your whip as straight as possible when welding, that will help the wire from jumping in the liner. :) cheers, cool channel.
East coast guy here. Cody, what's that one inch wide strap going to do for that repair? Why not a piece of 3 inch wide steel? If you can't see thru your weld helmet, adjust the helmet for the amount of darkening.
I own Miller, Hobart, and Esab welders. The Miller and Hobart are mounted to a heavy duty tool chest with suspension wheels. It's too heavy to pull on to crush and run surface, but that's why I have a paved driveway. The shield gas bottles are chained to the side of the box and all of the accessories (tip, guides, cups, cables, electrodes and filler wire) are stored inside the box.
For your trailer repair, a buzz box stick welder would have been a better choice due to the shielding gas from the electrode. Stick still has it's place in the welding industry.
Miller or Lincoln, either one is a good choice. Your welds look smooth and flat, gas shielding makes a big difference. I'm using inner-shield core in my Lincoln 140c right now, welds tend to bead up and spatter more. It can use gas shielding, just haven't done that yet. Cheers.
PRO TIP #138
Take a lint-free rag and clothes pin and secure it before your wire goes in to the cable. This will remove the oil coating on the wire and will give you better welds and never have to worry about a gummy cable. 👍
Great tip Brandon A.
Brandon Aga if you’re buying oily wire you need to find a new source.
@@unclerico1980 a lot of wire you buy has oil on it to have it some what lubricanted. You really dont need to worry about it I never wipe it off
it's just as easy to pick up those cheap felt pad wire cleaners with the metal clip.
@@lovescamaros1 Awesome I will have to check it out!
SCWI here...east coast one at that....and I'm telling you that your welds look better than the majority of the stuff I see on commercial buildings by ironworkers and that's a fact
Lincoln is the class of the welding world. I'm sure that Miller makes a good product but in my Dad's fabrication shop we always had Lincoln
I used a welder (stick) for the first time in my life this past summer. I have a newfound respect for those who do it for a living or out of necessity.
That's a beautiful piece of kit Mr. W! Well done!
"Perishable skill" another great quote
Since you wear glasses you may want to consider auxcillary lens in your mask. I was introduced to this idea onRUclips's Weld.com videos and have found it helpful in improving weld quality and placement. The lens are available at welding outlets.
I watched these backwards Cody. I can't believe you plugged a brand new welder into that battery bank. Even though I know it shouldn't kill it, I couldn't have done that.
The 211 is a great machine. I own one. I would recommend using the 4 lb. Spool. Once you start playing around you'll realize that a 1 lb. spool doesn't last long. I wouldn't recommend using the flux core wire. It makes a spattered mess and defeats the purpose of a gas machine. Also, I have had trouble with the 110 plug tripping breakers. I do believe you may need to use at least a 25 amp breaker or higher.
You should get the miller app I just graduated from a welding school and that one of the things I was told it was useful to have by my instructor and he was right and I think you should try it out
Great educational video. Looks like a good rig. Thank you.
Michael from Canada
I’ve run Lincoln, Miller and Hobart. I own a Miller 212 and Lincoln’s, hate the knobs on the Miller, maybe it’s because I learned on a Lincoln but the fact I can’t see what my actual voltage and wire speed makes me not use that machine, never tried the autoset figured it was a gimmick but I might have to try it. Other than that my Miller is the smoothest welding machine I own
Next video is a concrete slab outside the shop door before winter. Will make life easier and a great video. Keep up the good work!
What you were seeing with the wire speed going quickly is a jog function. It detects there is no arc and that you are likely trying to get a freshly-installed spool of wire to reach the gun.
To wield without gas is called the Flux core wire! It works well! It is not really fair to compare a 200.00 unit with a 1600.00 one! made for diff. markets!
There are two types of Flux core wire - dual shield (requires gas), and selfshield (doesn't require gas).
www.lincolnelectric.com/en-us/support/welding-solutions/Pages/shielded-flux-cored-electrodes.aspx
I bought a cheapo stick welder to do some putzing around and a few little projects... yeah. Welding is a VERY perishable skill. Mine perished, rotted, mulched and composted. The result was ugly as sin but it stuck so, it's good.
Only a west coast guy would take the easy way out and use a mig welder. Us east coast guys use stick welders much nicer, much simpler, and real skill.
Hahaha keep up the good vids!
Sweet machine! My Dad and me are looking into getting a MIG welder sometime. Thanks for the great videos. Wish the best for you and yours.
Ha! Mr. W advertising Chip Foose! The product placement never ends!
I noticed when I no longer lived in town my tolerance for noise dropped. When I was living in town noise never bothered me but once you become accustomed quiet, noise becomes distracting and mentally uncomfortable. I find myself not picking up air tools for jobs simply because I don't want to listen to that loud compressor. I spent a few days in town recently house sitting and doing a project for a friend and found the noise of even a small town draining. I don't think I could ever live in town or a large city again. It'd drive me nuts.
Great video always loved miller welders
east coasters weld uphill . never downhill
NEVER downhill
Any coast welds up on verts, if not you ain't a welder.
4:12 "It just drips quality"
That was a perfectly poetic line
I wouldn’t dare own that welder! Only a guy that wears a toupee, flat bill cap and lives on the west coast would use a blue welder. Everybody knows Lincoln is the best lol. Just kidding here. Thats a really nice welder especially the soft start on the wire feed. God bless yall
Lincoln stick machines are amazing but I've always liked miller MIG machines better
fluxcore wire non shielded gas when you run out of gas, may a suggest arc 6010 or 6011 rustyparts.you doing a great job
I worked on the 8000 dollar big miller welders, don't remember the model but it doesn't help you with settings. It really is how a welder should be though, no extra "fancy" features but it's a workhorse that never dies if you take care of it properly.
Edit: with that weld you did, you wouldn't need more than one weld to hold it where it needs to be, a good MIG weld can hold anywhere from 50,000 to 90,000 lbs although I can see why you wouldn't want another mistake.
Didn't know a welder could be so easy to set up. I use an old stick welder with a crank to change power settings. I'm with you about less noise in the shop.
The slow start then fast is actually the "jog" feature. When the welder senses that you're not welding, it speeds up so you can run the wire through the liner faster. Very nice feature nonetheless
I have to agree with you about people who coming out of the woodwork to criticize welding on RUclips. It seems like a ridiculously popular troll. A once popular RUclipsr who shall remain nameless, he's now known for self destructing his channel, was a fairly decent welder and would get incredible amounts of hate.
It’s nice someone will get some use out of your old camp trailer! I remember an old video with this camper in it.. I happy to see your new Miller Welder 👍
Don’t lie, all you West cost guys love Foose!!
lol
I’m busted
7:33 "I think you can get a special wire where you dont need the shielding gas"
Cody the flux core wire is what you need if you dont want to deal with shielding gas. The flux essentially acts the same as the argon by shielding your filler material from the atmosphere, avoiding porosity in the weld. Its basically the same as the flux coating on the outside of ARC welding rods. Flux core is very convenient but I dont think it always has as clean an outcome as real MIG.
Fcaw is much more difficult than MiG, I think MiG is the easiest to use
How much slag does the flux core produce? I doubt it's as much as stick welding.
Sir Shotty flux core doesn’t make as much slag as stick welding but there’s a still fair amount, my experience with flux core wire was a lot of spatter
Great review Wrangler
Cool welder. I got a Hobart that was affordable for me.I like it alright. I don't know how to weld so I don't know the difference. I'm rebuilding a trailer and I found those leaf spring brackets at northern tool. ( Going to get my son to weld those on. I will weld the sheet metal I need to repair, gain some experience) Your fix will probably work well. However, I prefer to replace the bracket.
i have one of those SWAG portaband saw tables. one of my favorite tool accessories, makes me look like a genius to the unwashed that transit my garage.
Welding is a skill I’ve never attempted to learn. It sure would be useful on-occasion.
Learn with stick.. will be frustrating at first but will make learning tig, and mig much easier
You should give it a go! I learnt on a cheap a.c stick welder. Think it cost me $150. Start welding scrap together.
I will. For now, my buddy has been happy to trade his welding prowess for an occasional day of fishing. Win win! He’s a very good welder, and I get to spend a day on the water with a good friend. :)
@@FastSloW-qt8xf yep learn with Stick great advice
Wow, that was amazing! How did you know I was sitting in the basement on my computer.....LOL!!! Thanks for the great content!
I believe European regulations call the for power switch being a few cm from the power cord and Miller doesn't want to make two designs. The wire feed speedup is to help changing wire for a new spool, not to help arc starting.
Miller machines are made to be used all over the world. In some countries you have to have the power switch by the power cord so it can be found.
That’s a very nice welder, I wish I had that when I was starting out learning how to weld would’ve taken out the guess work and saved a heap of time
So easy a Floridian can do it. I appreciate that.
That is a darn good welder! I know a few fab shops that use that same one.
Give shielded flux welding a try. Wire is high but for home use it can be used for any position welds. Flat ,vertical , horizontal ,and as for overhead welding is easier because the puddle does not fall out as fast. I would not try it for auto body work It is to "hot" and not good for tack welding because of slag. It will smoke and will have plenty of slag.
I have a MillerMatic 200. I've only ran flux core wire through it. Its been a great welder and the compact suitcase it comes in is tough.
God bless you and your family.
Take a Piece of leather and Pop rivet it to the back of your welding helmet to drape down over your neck to keep the back light from reflecting off your lens it really helps to see what your doing.
I used a old piece of leather from my old welding jacket. It truly helps with the sun reflecting in the back of your helmet. And it also protects the back of your neck from spatter in overhead.
The fan cycle after unplugging is something I really like. I hate when a thermal-cutoff or a breaker blows and leaves all that heat baking inside the case...a quick blast in the event of power loss might make a big difference
the quick blast is to discharge the inverters capacitors, most of the inverter technology miller machines do this.
@@SuperWaterskiboy even better
Red or Blue are both good. Where I worked they do .045 or water cooled 1/16. Flux core ! Argon gas helps alot. We maded Subs for Navy . I repaired them not weld. Use a big cup out side or block wild.