You all need to stop. True they have a special bond due to their experience with loss. Except what it is. Dream if you will. Berry reacts to know one like his connection with Iris.
Khalid Mehmood first of all I love Snow. I have been a fan of her since she was in Sky High. Her talent to play snow and killer frost is awesome. The writers gave us a peak of what it would be like if it was Barry and Snow. The writers are not scared. They are telling the story in their vision. Now I would like to see her finally find her true love 💕. Snow and Barry do have a very special connection. I will continue to watch all of the videos, they are great! Telling me to shut up, wow that really wasn’t necessary, it’s a TV show. With that passion though maybe you should try your hand at writing. Have a good one.
@@bentchlorine you realize they have a lot of bot and saved accounts right and they bullied so so many snowbarry shippers off twitter? Also, a lot stopped watching.
Who knew 50 seconds could change the entire dynamic of the show. This is truly a moment going down in Snowbarry history. Love your reactions because they are always so spot on. I can’t imagine life without it now. Lol!
Sadly, he's gone but hopefully this is temporary. Good news: CDCS is doing reactions in his name. May not be as good but at least we have snowbarry reactions!
To me, this scene is absolute proof that the writers are scared of SnowBarry. This scene should definitely have been included. Not just because its a SB scene, but it would have made so much sense when watching the show
That Rant is so FACTS that's almost sad. Which is why I'm not watching next season but I will watch all of your SNOWBARRY videos in the future. It's the same thing I did with season 4 and season 5 doesn't give me hope except that video you made with your theory on Caitlin.
I needed this so much !! Granielle has so much chemistry that it really only is pathetic not to put those perfect and peaceful scenes in the show. It was 50 seconds and you’re right: It changed the season completely. It still makes me mad. But I am also glad I got to ship Barry and Caitlin. Ty for this video!
Ok... I originally had commented on the official video few weeks ago but I have to paste them here too. It's gonna be long, but I've held this in for years! What... 😳 Dude, there's so MUCH in this scene, I could literally end up writing a thesis decrypting this. Just look at their body language! Look at the way Barry LOOKS at Caitlin. There's something so genuine and authentic in those eyes. They way he listens to her, the way she knowingly smiles- _she knows him better than he knows himself._ The way he expectantly looks back at her to see if she "approves"-until she said, "Better". The biggest thing is, it's all so NATURAL. This scene doesn't feel contrived at all and I believe much of it's got to do with Grant & Danielle's seamless chemistry together. No wonder this was deleted. This is a big threat. Caitlin's subtle ways by her suggestions and question concerning Ralph, they push Barry to be a _better hero._ Which takes me back to S1 during one of the show's behind the scenes interview... The *"Woman behind the Hero"* wasn't Iris West at all- it's Caitlin Snow. I didn't say that. The show itself did. The way he just *HAD* to look at Caitlin as she leaves the room… *_Barry basically just gave himself away._* His looks just linger on Caitlin and in the show, it happens on the most random of shots too-there are plenty of memes and gifs around as evidence (and of course, your awesome vids!). I think it’s because Grant and Dani are just naturally really good friends in real life but the thing is- *WHY* does the director, particularly in this scene, *HIGHLIGHTS* it? It literally ends up being a close up shot too. We know that in film, they *_never_* “waste” shots. It’s too expensive to just "put" random shots. Close ups are carefully CRAFTED-actually, all types of frames for that matter. The type of lens they use; for long shots, medium, close ups; the light set ups that go with them, and etc-there’s a lot of designing that goes behind the scene to compose a frame. So somehow, the director capitalizes on what’s natural between Grant and Danielle. If Caitlin is simply just another significant member to Team Flash, then why oh why do Barry’s eyes just _have_ to *follow* and *_linger_* on Caitlin-and NATURALLY so. *You know what the message ends up conveying?* (whether they intentionally meant it or not)- *"I **_VALUE_** THIS WOMAN. WHENEVER SHE LEAVES, I **_HAVE_** TO GET A LAST LOOK AT HER."* Bruh. That spells like _LOVERS_ to me, instead of being mere “friends” (even Grant has been on record saying Barry and Caitlin’s scenes feel “romantic” at times 🤣🤣). Pfft. And ya know what they say-the best lovers are the ones that are the best of friends. They can put it on the script in a 1000 different languages all they want and talk themselves blue till they start frothing at the mouth, how Barry and Iris are "best friends" but what the writers and directors have ended up SHOWING is that it’s really Barry, Caitlin, and Cisco that fit that description best, rather than Barry and Iris. Ya gotta SHOW it, not just SAY it. With Barry and Caitlin, between their parallels, how they fought FOR one another, how they TRUSTED each other, RESCUED each other, becoming each other’s *SAFE PLACE,* seen each other’s weaknesses but _never_ discounting each other just because of their limitations, bringing out the BEST that is in each other (just as this scene is explicitly showing!), especially in S1-it really shows that they have a *WORLD OF **_THEIR OWN._* And that world has been built brick by brick. It has been *EARNED.* And so, too, has earned *OUR* faith in their story. Believe me. I was OPEN to WestAllen cause in the comics, they are canon. But this Barry and Iris in the show, is *NOT* the Barry and Iris in the comics. I apologize for the LONG reply! I’ve been a quiet observer all these years but this scene finally brought it out of me. Snowbarry is STILL a threat. I tried looking for the interviews and went back to CW's site but couldn’t find it. They were really Character features that they did to promote the show when it first began, which was all the way back in 2014. That’s probably why it’s not up anymore. Funny enough though, it was _Candice Patton_ that “hosted” the features, saying, there’s always a “_Woman behind the Hero-_*and that is Caitlin Snow"* 🤣🤣 Another thing. Something isn't adding up. For this scene to exist in the first place, *somebody **_had to write it._* So I'm thinking, either the writers' camp themselves are divided in the vision; or the big wigs up there are pulling all the shots; or the writers _simply_ didn't expect this scene to turn out this way. Well, we know the director for this scene sure highlights and capitalizes on Grant and Dani's easy and seamless chemistry. That tells me that he believes in them. I'm sure he didn't have to like pull teeth outta them. Everything is so organic and so genuine between Grant and Dani, therefore Barry and Caity. So give Grant and Dani a simple dialogue, it'll still end up being genuine, authentic, _and_ *trustworthy.* **When I wrote this, I didn't know that Tom had directed it-though the thought had crossed my mind. I read somewhere here that he did. NO WONDER. Dude knows what's up. Also, with scenes like this, even though they got deleted, I'm still not convinced that SB is completely out of the ring. Why then highlights Barry looking *FIRST* - and I mean FIRST!!! - at Caitlin when he came out of the speed force last season? *_AND_* smiling the way he did- *completely* unhindered, and *_instinctively_* so, in the way that Caitlin, too, was, when she looked at him. It was _so completely_ *RANDOM.* And that's my whole point. In filmmaking, _no shot is "random"._ Pfft. Something's afoot.
When was the last episode they were actually alone in a room, 3x15 in the medical bay? Sounds about right, and that was for about 10 seconds after everyone left them alone after being upset about Wally being trapped in the Speedforce, then...end of episode! At least Caitlin was allowed to stay since she's Barry's doctor and was treating him. There was one scene in Season 4 where Barry and Caitlin were coming out of the med bay after he had gotten his ass handed to him yet again by some weak metahuman, but we never got to actually see a conversation, just an offscreen interaction. It's unreal and the writers are so transparent. They refuse to allow Barry and Caitlin to be alone anymore because they KNOW they have more chemistry than WestAllen. Sad storytelling.
The Mad Science of Bobtown In fairness, ratings for all shows dwindle in the later seasons. Fans eventually get bored and want something new. The only difference is the RATE of decline depending on how fast or slow the show goes to shit. I finally just gave up on the show around early Season 5. once they brought in WestAllen’s daughter with her “schway” dialogue, I knew it was time to bail! Lol Also, I was at a point where I couldn’t stand or couldn’t care less about half the characters, namely Iris, Ralph, NoraJr, and Barry himself. I don’t think the show was really any good after Season 2 anyway. I just thought Season 3 was a bump in the road, then Season 4 was worse and I didn’t hear good things about Season 5. I just watched the Crisis clip of Smallville’s version of Clark and Lois, my favorite comic book couple ever, and got a bonus seeing Iris disappear (I know it didn’t stick). I wish the writers had made that happen on The Flash years ago and maybe the show would have been better than it turned out to be.
I was expecting the Titanic longing stare-off and it just was so perfectly timed... Thanks! PS: And you know what's funny? I began watching the flash because of WA (the final proposal). The first video I watched from your channel was to be honest a chance for me to see the other side (SB) and disagree with it completely (I was a big WA fan back then). I had watched until then around 4-6 episodes of Season 4 and was disappointed with Iris to be honest (although I didn't want to admit it at that time). THANK YOU for opening my eyes about this (kind of) incest relationship (WA).What happened was I really liked your reactions, so I watched some more and a few videos later, I was a completely different person. You are my savior. *Sorry for the long message*
It is so vital because they saw THEMSELVES as villains and this moment is them accepting that they can be good and acknowledging that they have chosen to be good (especially after seeing how wrong things could have gone if they ended up like kf and Savitar) so if they got these powers and didn't immediately want to use them for evil then the other metas were victims of DeVoe's circumstantial plan
It's this kind of moment that resonates to THE Barry Allen everyone knows and loves from season 1. He's forgiving and understanding especially to those who he misread as a bad guy (i.e. Tony Woodward, his childhood bully). Why delete such a short but very poignant scene which doesn't only show Barry's change of heart, from seeing everyone having powers to be another villain to understanding that not all metas are out to destroy humanity (too much? I know. Hehe) but also Ralph's character (which I think is kind of here and there but whatevs...) finally getting recognized by the HERO of the show? Imagine that! How the main character came as a lovable dummy to an actual hero who did everything to save all that he could to self loathing hero, because he knew he couldn't save everyone, to realizing he CAN be THE VILLAIN and making crazy and pathetic attempts not to be one to repremanding himself for doing so thus sacrificing his life by being in the speedforce to save everyone, yet again (I'm looking at you Iris) to getting out and being crazy, to be a jerk-kind of a hero to "realizing he should give people another chance" kind of hero. Wasted opportunity there. I have never watch a full episode of season 4, because of a number of reasons, but I felt that I didn' t miss much. Sigh.... Well, looking forward for your vids and Caitlin's character arc next season. Thanks! P. S. If they really want a convincing redemption-of-a-character arc they should turn to Zuko of ATLA, I know it's far from any charcter but the writer's made it very believable to see through the eyes of "THE VILLAIN". I don't know... Just a thought. Peace, out!
That scene was perfect so idk why they chosen to delete that shit and just adding more westallen pep talks It's like I like cookies and I love them so much I could eat them for weeks but however I would end up Getting Diabetes it is a thing of being it a bad thing its hurting the show's ratings Wasting it all on Westallen, Iris's Undeveloped Character and Her Hypocritical Moments and Raplh Dipney
The writers are basically telling their story to force a boring relationship only because of canon and suppressing all the good storytelling through the natural relationships Barry has established with other characters. Iris is his wife, whatever, but it's absurd for her character to be in StarLabs and sucking up screentime that belongs to Caitlin and Cisco. The romantic stuff is one thing, but Iris is not qualified to be in the lab at all.
Candice probably gets paid more since she has a lot more scenes than Caitlin and Cisco But I don't even know to be honest , but that's probably what it is
It is so important that Barry and caitlin started to see themselves as good again . Because the scenes that proceed this one involved the DeVoe name drop and Caitlin being visited by amunet . It also explains away Caitlin's need to buy that plane ticket in the next episode
Doesn't matter if there's a small amount of snowbarry believers ,doesn't matter if people dont like snowbarry Because that's just opinions, as long as there's hope and process for snowbarry then were okay. And if a westallen wants to waste their time trying to step on your shoe then just ignore them S i m p l e , and anyways we're all a loud to have opinions , its just the the little kids with no common sense that just can't understand that. But kudos to the WA fans that are mature and respect other people's opinions.
@@sassycat035 o in season 1 i remember all to well how much snowbarry became the top ship over 1 season:D. i still remember the the flash midseason season 1 trailer that had the hannibal bates kisses caitlin(ofc ppl back then totally thought it was barry and caitlin and at least :D 80% of comments where snowbary this snowbarry that:D nobody cared much for WA:D as much as snowbarry in the 1x12 1x19 episodes:D. a good times when the writers had eyes and brains to give us snowbarry scenes.
Oh thank goodness, my titanic theme is back lol I was wondering if you were gonna do this one and man right on the money with every word. The fact they're cutting character growth for our "main" character is pathetic, plus a scene that was basically the narrative lynchpin for the outlook that season, Barry's growth as a character, and the conclusion to the arc between Barry and Caitlin that episode. Deleting it is just horrible writing and why? Because they're scared of Snowbarry? Guess so because I have no other explanation. You're so right about how relaxed they are alone though, I would love to have this Barry all the time, he seems so healed and complete. When they're alone it always feels so intimate with how calm they are and how deeply and easily they breath. The titanic theme was almost like the perfect background music for this scene lol Though I don't actually believe we're the minority. I think people are scared to say anything though, no one wants to be attacked and called a racist. No one wants to go against the flow. But when they give Snowbarry (plus original trio) any leeway at all the ratings go through the roof because it becomes engaging to watch. The casual viewer doesn't like WA (they're here for what season one had comic and science solutions and engaging story and characters. All of which WA destroys with forced solutions, cringey dialogue, and scene hogging) and no they may not be super Snowbarry shippers but man even they have noticed the lack of interaction between Barry and Caitlin and find the fact this scene was deleted weird and wrong. And if the *nonshippers* are noticing the jig is definitely up and the writers better start paying attention to what makes the show good before its too far gone.
It's like when Olicity fans claim that she is Oliver's light and whatever, while in fact it's Laurel. For example, when Laurel's motivational speach back in season 2 when she pushed him to fight against Slade. Except, they didnt delete that one lol.
please please please season 5 snowbarry!! i'll do ANYTHING! I don't care if barry cheats dont care dont care, just snowbarry. I swear, if WA gets any more annoying and there's literally no chance of snowbarry, I'm gonna quit the show. The main reason I continue to watch it, is because of ur videos, showing that there could be some hope for them...
i remember barry called Caitlin in season one when iris was going to eddie's mom's and eat barry called caitlin and almost asked her out and they had fun and the writers ruined it by bringing in Linda park
Titanic is Back. Also, absolutely agreed. It absolutely killed the show when they hacked the SnowBarry relationship. Even if it ended and they went with WestAllen, at least we would have had SnowBarry for real. Then again it would have killed the show anyways because WestAllen wouldn't have compared to SnowBarry anyways.....so, lose lose I guess.
I haven’t watched a snow barry video in so long, because the show for the past two years or so has been forcing Westallen and barely giving me any SB scenes. I’ll always ship them, but a part of me knows they’ll never end up together. The flash just isn’t the same show it used to be, I miss Caitlin and Barry’s relationship so much!
At 4:00 just when I thought we wouldn't get to see the SNOWBARRY eye contact moments with my heart will go on theme but then you surprised with that magical moment!! It feels like a heavy weight has been put away from my heart!! Also did you see the new 'The Flash' season 5 promo where we can see Nora looking emotionally at a picture of Barry,Caitlin,Ciso and Wells? That totally gave me some hope of SnowBarry!!
OMG ReactOutLoud : The very next episode , Caitlin needed to run from Amunete . This small 50 second scene , she felt in peace with both leaving and if she has to die
Omg I miss that titanic theme everytime my Snowbarry babies make eye contact. I miss your crack videos through every episodes you gave us hope and excitement more than what the show gave us. Anyway October is fast approaching and we'll see your videos and rants again. Btw some Snowbarry fans like me are pushijg for a Nicholas Sparks movie for them so if you have time can you do a video on how they are perfect for a nicholas sparks film?
just saw a video of smarvy smarv...is Caitlin not gonna be part of season 5 that much..... well it was nice knowing you the flash RIP CW FLASH OCTOBER 2014 - MAY 2016
Dude it is not just the fact that they deleted the only actual snowbarry scene in 23 episodes,this scene is the one that changed *everything* in the season.wtf were the writers thinking! 😲😲😮😮😔😔😒😒
Also its not like they didn't even have time to include that clip, episode 4x04 ended up having a time mark of 41 minutes and the average episode is 42 - 47 minutes. This clip is less than a minute long they could have easily included it.
👏🏻 100% 👏🏻 Snowbarry could happen. If the Flash were to be following sort of the Arrow’s pattern, than Barry would leave Iris (the comic lover) and go to Caitlin (the hopeful lover). Just like Oliver left Laurel for Felicity. But it may be too late for that to happen. While looking back at season 4, the whole season was about Iris. It’s ridiculous. But hopefully the producers will get their heads out of their asses and give good conversion between Barry and Caitlin
WA Stans on Twitter when WA has a deleted scene: Oh my god I can't believe they deleted the scene! They're WestAllen haters and racist! They just don't want all that chemistry on screen! WA doesn't have enough screen time! WA Stans when Snowbarry has a deleted scene: it's cause SB sucks and they don't want that on screen. And I'm like really??? This one scene outshines WA moments imo.
They are scared of them getting to close. That's why they killed off Laurel, because her and Oliver started getting closer. Hopefully they don't kill off Caitlin.
Even when this scene was deleted, it was much better and full of chemistry than all their stupids WA romantic forced scenes. I'm so proud of being a Snowbarry shipper
let’s imagine how tom (who directed the episode) felt when he saw this was cut out of the episode , and how happy he must’ve been to see this scene come out
What the writers dont understand is that if they give iris and barry a better storyline they don't have to feel so threatened by Snowbarry. i dont think its a chemistry thing because the actors are themselves good but with dialogue they are given it doesnt allow them to portray such emotion connections. Like imagine Caitlin saying "we are the flash" or even Cisco... it sounds so dumb, why would they force poor Iris to say something so idiotic
I went to Google Trends. Compared Snowbarry to Westallen. Websearches... Meh (Although there was a lot of SB around the first season of the flash). I couldn't say the same about RUclips and picture searches. There's almost no point where Westallen beats Snowbarry. Could that possibly state something about the SB fandom? That we are much stronger than we assumed? And that possibly we could make a change to the direction of the show? Hopeful to say the least.
Why we cant see your subs? Maybe if the writers see you how much subs you have they know how many fans want snowbarry❤️❤️(btw I have subscribed you love your vids and snowbarry❤️)
It's sad that we don't get snowbarry momments and I'm talking about their friendship, it's hard for people to know the depth of barry and Caitlyn's relationship
I want Cw or Flashroom writers.. or who ever management the Flash twitter account... make a Poll.. 2 options .. Westallen or Snowbarry... AND SEE WHO IS THE MINORITY !! ... I'm pretty sure we Won that bet 👏👏👏
Not even talking about the pairing at this point. Grant and Danielle must have been pretty damn frustrated at all the scenes that were deleted between them or the lack of script between the two of them at this point.
Because God forbid they have a single fricking conversation alone. Even the writers know Snowbarry is so natural, and I think they’re scared.
Toasty Ghosty yes, they are.
But y
You all need to stop. True they have a special bond due to their experience with loss. Except what it is. Dream if you will. Berry reacts to know one like his connection with Iris.
Khalid Mehmood first of all I love Snow. I have been a fan of her since she was in Sky High. Her talent to play snow and killer frost is awesome. The writers gave us a peak of what it would be like if it was Barry and Snow. The writers are not scared. They are telling the story in their vision. Now I would like to see her finally find her true love 💕. Snow and Barry do have a very special connection. I will continue to watch all of the videos, they are great! Telling me to shut up, wow that really wasn’t necessary, it’s a TV show. With that passion though maybe you should try your hand at writing. Have a good one.
Let's not forget to thank the great Tom Cavanagh, who directed this episode.
proof that Tom is the SB captain
our captain!!
Probably the higher ups who deleted it cause you know our captain wouldn't. Ugh so frustratng
He's the directing the 100th episode so let's hope for soke snowbarry
U should watch reach out loud
"our fandom may be the minority
but our passion for Snowbarry-
is far greater than the majority."
Can this be the official SB quote please?
Ikr! I absolutely love that. I definitely vote "Yay" for that being the official quote.
Are we really the minority though? I see more snowbarry shippers on youtube and certain social media sites than anything.
same, but most polls on twitter for wa verses Sb shows wa won
@@bentchlorine you realize they have a lot of bot and saved accounts right and they bullied so so many snowbarry shippers off twitter? Also, a lot stopped watching.
yeah, you're right :)
Who knew 50 seconds could change the entire dynamic of the show. This is truly a moment going down in Snowbarry history. Love your reactions because they are always so spot on. I can’t imagine life without it now. Lol!
Sadly, he's gone but hopefully this is temporary. Good news: CDCS is doing reactions in his name. May not be as good but at least we have snowbarry reactions!
To me, this scene is absolute proof that the writers are scared of SnowBarry. This scene should definitely have been included. Not just because its a SB scene, but it would have made so much sense when watching the show
they're scared because they know that caitlin and barry have so much chemistry *pardon my bad english
Dominique Carissa what’s wrong with your English? It’s correct
This scene right there is like icing on the cake for that episode.
arofree I like icing
This scene is 1000 times better than all WA scenes
That's a lie. This scene is not better than WestAllen scenes.
WesAllen scenes are way better
Lerato madlala clearly you are a West Allen fan, so please go away because this is a Snowbarry channel
Farhiyo Kumane wdym taking
Farhiyo M That made no sense
Farhiyo M first of all, they were talking about WA because they were comparing it with our beloved snowbarry. snowbarry is better.
That Rant is so FACTS that's almost sad. Which is why I'm not watching next season but I will watch all of your SNOWBARRY videos in the future. It's the same thing I did with season 4 and season 5 doesn't give me hope except that video you made with your theory on Caitlin.
Love it!! So happy that even though SnowBarry isn't cannon people can still see how they feel towards eachother.
The intro 😂😂😂
I needed this so much !!
Granielle has so much chemistry that it really only is pathetic not to put those perfect and peaceful scenes in the show. It was 50 seconds and you’re right: It changed the season completely.
It still makes me mad. But I am also glad I got to ship Barry and Caitlin.
Ty for this video!
Ok... I originally had commented on the official video few weeks ago but I have to paste them here too. It's gonna be long, but I've held this in for years! What... 😳 Dude, there's so MUCH in this scene, I could literally end up writing a thesis decrypting this. Just look at their body language! Look at the way Barry LOOKS at Caitlin. There's something so genuine and authentic in those eyes. They way he listens to her, the way she knowingly smiles- _she knows him better than he knows himself._ The way he expectantly looks back at her to see if she "approves"-until she said, "Better". The biggest thing is, it's all so NATURAL. This scene doesn't feel contrived at all and I believe much of it's got to do with Grant & Danielle's seamless chemistry together. No wonder this was deleted. This is a big threat. Caitlin's subtle ways by her suggestions and question concerning Ralph, they push Barry to be a _better hero._ Which takes me back to S1 during one of the show's behind the scenes interview... The *"Woman behind the Hero"* wasn't Iris West at all- it's Caitlin Snow. I didn't say that. The show itself did.
The way he just *HAD* to look at Caitlin as she leaves the room… *_Barry basically just gave himself away._* His looks just linger on Caitlin and in the show, it happens on the most random of shots too-there are plenty of memes and gifs around as evidence (and of course, your awesome vids!). I think it’s because Grant and Dani are just naturally really good friends in real life but the thing is- *WHY* does the director, particularly in this scene, *HIGHLIGHTS* it? It literally ends up being a close up shot too. We know that in film, they *_never_* “waste” shots. It’s too expensive to just "put" random shots. Close ups are carefully CRAFTED-actually, all types of frames for that matter. The type of lens they use; for long shots, medium, close ups; the light set ups that go with them, and etc-there’s a lot of designing that goes behind the scene to compose a frame. So somehow, the director capitalizes on what’s natural between Grant and Danielle. If Caitlin is simply just another significant member to Team Flash, then why oh why do Barry’s eyes just _have_ to *follow* and *_linger_* on Caitlin-and NATURALLY so. *You know what the message ends up conveying?* (whether they intentionally meant it or not)-
*"I **_VALUE_** THIS WOMAN. WHENEVER SHE LEAVES, I **_HAVE_** TO GET A LAST LOOK AT HER."*
Bruh. That spells like _LOVERS_ to me, instead of being mere “friends” (even Grant has been on record saying Barry and Caitlin’s scenes feel “romantic” at times 🤣🤣). Pfft. And ya know what they say-the best lovers are the ones that are the best of friends. They can put it on the script in a 1000 different languages all they want and talk themselves blue till they start frothing at the mouth, how Barry and Iris are "best friends" but what the writers and directors have ended up SHOWING is that it’s really Barry, Caitlin, and Cisco that fit that description best, rather than Barry and Iris. Ya gotta SHOW it, not just SAY it. With Barry and Caitlin, between their parallels, how they fought FOR one another, how they TRUSTED each other, RESCUED each other, becoming each other’s *SAFE PLACE,* seen each other’s weaknesses but _never_ discounting each other just because of their limitations, bringing out the BEST that is in each other (just as this scene is explicitly showing!), especially in S1-it really shows that they have a *WORLD OF **_THEIR OWN._* And that world has been built brick by brick. It has been *EARNED.* And so, too, has earned *OUR* faith in their story. Believe me. I was OPEN to WestAllen cause in the comics, they are canon. But this Barry and Iris in the show, is *NOT* the Barry and Iris in the comics. I apologize for the LONG reply! I’ve been a quiet observer all these years but this scene finally brought it out of me. Snowbarry is STILL a threat. I tried looking for the interviews and went back to CW's site but couldn’t find it. They were really Character features that they did to promote the show when it first began, which was all the way back in 2014. That’s probably why it’s not up anymore. Funny enough though, it was _Candice Patton_ that “hosted” the features, saying, there’s always a “_Woman behind the Hero-_*and that is Caitlin Snow"* 🤣🤣
Another thing. Something isn't adding up. For this scene to exist in the first place, *somebody **_had to write it._* So I'm thinking, either the writers' camp themselves are divided in the vision; or the big wigs up there are pulling all the shots; or the writers _simply_ didn't expect this scene to turn out this way. Well, we know the director for this scene sure highlights and capitalizes on Grant and Dani's easy and seamless chemistry. That tells me that he believes in them. I'm sure he didn't have to like pull teeth outta them. Everything is so organic and so genuine between Grant and Dani, therefore Barry and Caity. So give Grant and Dani a simple dialogue, it'll still end up being genuine, authentic, _and_ *trustworthy.*
**When I wrote this, I didn't know that Tom had directed it-though the thought had crossed my mind. I read somewhere here that he did. NO WONDER. Dude knows what's up.
Also, with scenes like this, even though they got deleted, I'm still not convinced that SB is completely out of the ring. Why then highlights Barry looking *FIRST* - and I mean FIRST!!! - at Caitlin when he came out of the speed force last season? *_AND_* smiling the way he did- *completely* unhindered, and *_instinctively_* so, in the way that Caitlin, too, was, when she looked at him. It was _so completely_ *RANDOM.* And that's my whole point. In filmmaking, _no shot is "random"._ Pfft. Something's afoot.
So many SnowBarry fans here... I'm lovin' it 😍
I was so MAD when I found out it was deleted all they doing is proving our theory right WA can't stand above SNOWBARRY!!!
Westallen is actually standing above Snowbarry.
Westallen is the gold standard
@@nomimadlala you may be right but they have great chemistry it dosen't have to be romantic wise but even as friends.
@@nomimadlala Westallen won the battle between WA and SB. But, honestly; SB will always win in my heart. Canon or not.
When was the last episode they were actually alone in a room, 3x15 in the medical bay? Sounds about right, and that was for about 10 seconds after everyone left them alone after being upset about Wally being trapped in the Speedforce, then...end of episode! At least Caitlin was allowed to stay since she's Barry's doctor and was treating him. There was one scene in Season 4 where Barry and Caitlin were coming out of the med bay after he had gotten his ass handed to him yet again by some weak metahuman, but we never got to actually see a conversation, just an offscreen interaction. It's unreal and the writers are so transparent. They refuse to allow Barry and Caitlin to be alone anymore because they KNOW they have more chemistry than WestAllen. Sad storytelling.
and ratings for The Flash are going down
The Mad Science of Bobtown In fairness, ratings for all shows dwindle in the later seasons. Fans eventually get bored and want something new. The only difference is the RATE of decline depending on how fast or slow the show goes to shit. I finally just gave up on the show around early Season 5. once they brought in WestAllen’s daughter with her “schway” dialogue, I knew it was time to bail! Lol Also, I was at a point where I couldn’t stand or couldn’t care less about half the characters, namely Iris, Ralph, NoraJr, and Barry himself. I don’t think the show was really any good after Season 2 anyway. I just thought Season 3 was a bump in the road, then Season 4 was worse and I didn’t hear good things about Season 5.
I just watched the Crisis clip of Smallville’s version of Clark and Lois, my favorite comic book couple ever, and got a bonus seeing Iris disappear (I know it didn’t stick). I wish the writers had made that happen on The Flash years ago and maybe the show would have been better than it turned out to be.
We want snowbarry
This made my day
I like your channel
I was expecting the Titanic longing stare-off and it just was so perfectly timed... Thanks!
PS: And you know what's funny? I began watching the flash because of WA (the final proposal). The first video I watched from your channel was to be honest a chance for me to see the other side (SB) and disagree with it completely (I was a big WA fan back then). I had watched until then around 4-6 episodes of Season 4 and was disappointed with Iris to be honest (although I didn't want to admit it at that time). THANK YOU for opening my eyes about this (kind of) incest relationship (WA).What happened was I really liked your reactions, so I watched some more and a few videos later, I was a completely different person. You are my savior. *Sorry for the long message*
Miranda Kreta I think once you watch a few of the early videos you get hooked and have to watch all of them because they are completely true.
You were blind, and now you see. You were lost, but now are found.
Welcome to the ship. Snowbarry Flashfrost Forever!!!!💖💖💖💖⚡❄️⚡❄️
Welcome friend to Snowbarry where the correct pairing should be them, true golden couple.
i never read any comics before
but when i started watching the show i actually thought barry and snow would become a couple
It is so vital because they saw THEMSELVES as villains and this moment is them accepting that they can be good and acknowledging that they have chosen to be good (especially after seeing how wrong things could have gone if they ended up like kf and Savitar) so if they got these powers and didn't immediately want to use them for evil then the other metas were victims of DeVoe's circumstantial plan
It's this kind of moment that resonates to THE Barry Allen everyone knows and loves from season 1. He's forgiving and understanding especially to those who he misread as a bad guy (i.e. Tony Woodward, his childhood bully).
Why delete such a short but very poignant scene which doesn't only show Barry's change of heart, from seeing everyone having powers to be another villain to understanding that not all metas are out to destroy humanity (too much? I know. Hehe) but also Ralph's character (which I think is kind of here and there but whatevs...) finally getting recognized by the HERO of the show? Imagine that! How the main character came as a lovable dummy to an actual hero who did everything to save all that he could to self loathing hero, because he knew he couldn't save everyone, to realizing he CAN be THE VILLAIN and making crazy and pathetic attempts not to be one to repremanding himself for doing so thus sacrificing his life by being in the speedforce to save everyone, yet again (I'm looking at you Iris) to getting out and being crazy, to be a jerk-kind of a hero to "realizing he should give people another chance" kind of hero. Wasted opportunity there.
I have never watch a full episode of season 4, because of a number of reasons, but I felt that I didn' t miss much. Sigh.... Well, looking forward for your vids and Caitlin's character arc next season. Thanks!
P. S. If they really want a convincing redemption-of-a-character arc they should turn to Zuko of ATLA, I know it's far from any charcter but the writer's made it very believable to see through the eyes of "THE VILLAIN".
I don't know... Just a thought.
Peace, out!
That scene was perfect so idk why they chosen to delete that shit and just adding more westallen pep talks
It's like I like cookies and I love them so much I could eat them for weeks but however I would end up Getting Diabetes it is a thing of being it a bad thing its hurting the show's ratings Wasting it all on Westallen, Iris's Undeveloped Character and Her Hypocritical Moments and Raplh Dipney
The writers are basically telling their story to force a boring relationship only because of canon and suppressing all the good storytelling through the natural relationships Barry has established with other characters. Iris is his wife, whatever, but it's absurd for her character to be in StarLabs and sucking up screentime that belongs to Caitlin and Cisco. The romantic stuff is one thing, but Iris is not qualified to be in the lab at all.
Agreed
Candice probably gets paid more since she has a lot more scenes than Caitlin and Cisco
But I don't even know to be honest , but that's probably what it is
I’ve been waiting on this video for the longest!!❤️
Kayla Banks same
They feel so natural together. Nothing forced.
It is so important that Barry and caitlin started to see themselves as good again . Because the scenes that proceed this one involved the DeVoe name drop and Caitlin being visited by amunet . It also explains away Caitlin's need to buy that plane ticket in the next episode
Titanic theme on your videos always makes me scream 😍
SAME. I legit screamed when it came on lol
The passion for this ship burns like a hundred suns!
I can imagine if reactoutloud came back. They’d have a heart attack looking at Barry frosts scenes and Caitlin and Barry’s interactions during S8.
LETS GO
#SNOWBARRY
We're not the minority. WA stans are.
I feel like in season 1 we were the majority! but now i think we are the minority :/
Good one i guess
Check this out:
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Doesn't matter if there's a small amount of snowbarry believers ,doesn't matter if people dont like snowbarry Because that's just opinions, as long as there's hope and process for snowbarry then were okay. And if a westallen wants to waste their time trying to step on your shoe then just ignore them
S i m p l e , and anyways we're all a loud to have opinions ,
its just the the little kids with no common sense that just can't understand that. But kudos to the WA fans that are mature and respect other people's opinions.
@@sassycat035 o in season 1 i remember all to well how much snowbarry became the top ship over 1 season:D. i still remember the the flash midseason season 1 trailer that had the hannibal bates kisses caitlin(ofc ppl back then totally thought it was barry and caitlin and at least :D 80% of comments where snowbary this snowbarry that:D nobody cared much for WA:D as much as snowbarry in the 1x12 1x19 episodes:D. a good times when the writers had eyes and brains to give us snowbarry scenes.
Your videos are so good i didn't finish it and already liked
Oh thank goodness, my titanic theme is back lol I was wondering if you were gonna do this one and man right on the money with every word. The fact they're cutting character growth for our "main" character is pathetic, plus a scene that was basically the narrative lynchpin for the outlook that season, Barry's growth as a character, and the conclusion to the arc between Barry and Caitlin that episode. Deleting it is just horrible writing and why? Because they're scared of Snowbarry? Guess so because I have no other explanation. You're so right about how relaxed they are alone though, I would love to have this Barry all the time, he seems so healed and complete. When they're alone it always feels so intimate with how calm they are and how deeply and easily they breath. The titanic theme was almost like the perfect background music for this scene lol
Though I don't actually believe we're the minority. I think people are scared to say anything though, no one wants to be attacked and called a racist. No one wants to go against the flow. But when they give Snowbarry (plus original trio) any leeway at all the ratings go through the roof because it becomes engaging to watch. The casual viewer doesn't like WA (they're here for what season one had comic and science solutions and engaging story and characters. All of which WA destroys with forced solutions, cringey dialogue, and scene hogging) and no they may not be super Snowbarry shippers but man even they have noticed the lack of interaction between Barry and Caitlin and find the fact this scene was deleted weird and wrong. And if the *nonshippers* are noticing the jig is definitely up and the writers better start paying attention to what makes the show good before its too far gone.
Real good talk right there
Once you've see it, you can't unsee it
It's like when Olicity fans claim that she is Oliver's light and whatever, while in fact it's Laurel. For example, when Laurel's motivational speach back in season 2 when she pushed him to fight against Slade. Except, they didnt delete that one lol.
I love the scene and i love how you still belive in that, after all that happen
This is so good 😂
Hahahaja I LOVE YOUUUUU, I've forgotten the "Titanic" thing... 😂😂😂
please please please season 5 snowbarry!! i'll do ANYTHING! I don't care if barry cheats dont care dont care, just snowbarry.
I swear, if WA gets any more annoying and there's literally no chance of snowbarry, I'm gonna quit the show. The main reason I continue to watch it, is because of ur videos, showing that there could be some hope for them...
It’s season 8 are you still watching?
i remember barry called Caitlin in season one
when iris was going to eddie's mom's and eat
barry called caitlin and almost asked her out and they had fun
and the writers ruined it by bringing in Linda park
Damn this was such a good scene... makes me remember why I liked the Flash in the first place!
DON'T EVER STOP PUTTING THE TITANIC THEME 😂😂😂
Titanic is Back. Also, absolutely agreed. It absolutely killed the show when they hacked the SnowBarry relationship. Even if it ended and they went with WestAllen, at least we would have had SnowBarry for real. Then again it would have killed the show anyways because WestAllen wouldn't have compared to SnowBarry anyways.....so, lose lose I guess.
I haven’t watched a snow barry video in so long, because the show for the past two years or so has been forcing Westallen and barely giving me any SB scenes. I’ll always ship them, but a part of me knows they’ll never end up together. The flash just isn’t the same show it used to be, I miss Caitlin and Barry’s relationship so much!
They're talking so soft and gentle to each other🥰😍❤👏🙌💖💘💞💕💓
At 4:00 just when I thought we wouldn't get to see the SNOWBARRY eye contact moments with my heart will go on theme but then you surprised with that magical moment!! It feels like a heavy weight has been put away from my heart!! Also did you see the new 'The Flash' season 5 promo where we can see Nora looking emotionally at a picture of Barry,Caitlin,Ciso and Wells? That totally gave me some hope of SnowBarry!!
OMG ReactOutLoud : The very next episode , Caitlin needed to run from Amunete . This small 50 second scene , she felt in peace with both leaving and if she has to die
this is so soft 😍
Love It!!!
Stop being so cute snowbarry
The number of snowbarry deleted scenes may even be enough to make a movie...sigh
Great to see one of your videos! May the speed force be with Snowbarry this season⚡️
Omg I miss that titanic theme everytime my Snowbarry babies make eye contact. I miss your crack videos through every episodes you gave us hope and excitement more than what the show gave us. Anyway October is fast approaching and we'll see your videos and rants again. Btw some Snowbarry fans like me are pushijg for a Nicholas Sparks movie for them so if you have time can you do a video on how they are perfect for a nicholas sparks film?
Goddamn I am feeling barry and caitlin now more than ever, but it's sad that will never happen
You made a 4 minutes vid with a 50 sec one.
I LOVE YOU 🖤🖤🖤🖤
Man, Grant and Danniele are SO GOOD
I mean
REALLY
OMG❤️❤️❤️
i almost chocked on my water.....WAIT WHAT??!?!
Three words....beautifull and amazing
just saw a video of smarvy smarv...is Caitlin not gonna be part of season 5 that much..... well it was nice knowing you the flash RIP CW FLASH OCTOBER 2014 - MAY 2016
Dude it is not just the fact that they deleted the only actual snowbarry scene in 23 episodes,this scene is the one that changed *everything* in the season.wtf were the writers thinking! 😲😲😮😮😔😔😒😒
Also its not like they didn't even have time to include that clip, episode 4x04 ended up having a time mark of 41 minutes and the average episode is 42 - 47 minutes. This clip is less than a minute long they could have easily included it.
👏🏻 100% 👏🏻
Snowbarry could happen. If the Flash were to be following sort of the Arrow’s pattern, than Barry would leave Iris (the comic lover) and go to Caitlin (the hopeful lover). Just like Oliver left Laurel for Felicity. But it may be too late for that to happen. While looking back at season 4, the whole season was about Iris. It’s ridiculous. But hopefully the producers will get their heads out of their asses and give good conversion between Barry and Caitlin
WA Stans on Twitter when WA has a deleted scene: Oh my god I can't believe they deleted the scene! They're WestAllen haters and racist! They just don't want all that chemistry on screen! WA doesn't have enough screen time!
WA Stans when Snowbarry has a deleted scene: it's cause SB sucks and they don't want that on screen.
And I'm like really???
This one scene outshines WA moments imo.
I love how you always play that music when you have them staring😂
Man those last seconds had me broken 💔
Why did they have to delete just that one precious moment?😫😭
Oh damn I've missed your videos so much. My snowbarry heart is crying hard.😭
I love #snowbarry
Oh God titanic music's suits every scene
Snowbarry is such a beutiful harmonyzed and deserved thought. But it will never happen. The writers would never ditch Iris.
Not only did the clothes match from 1x07 they matched in this scene.
They are scared of them getting to close. That's why they killed off Laurel, because her and Oliver started getting closer. Hopefully they don't kill off Caitlin.
Even when this scene was deleted, it was much better and full of chemistry than all their stupids WA romantic forced scenes.
I'm so proud of being a Snowbarry shipper
let’s imagine how tom (who directed the episode) felt when he saw this was cut out of the episode , and how happy he must’ve been to see this scene come out
You made a whole video about what I could never comment about because of haters. This is a safe space for snowbarry shippers. Thanks a lot man.
What the writers dont understand is that if they give iris and barry a better storyline they don't have to feel so threatened by Snowbarry. i dont think its a chemistry thing because the actors are themselves good but with dialogue they are given it doesnt allow them to portray such emotion connections. Like imagine Caitlin saying "we are the flash" or even Cisco... it sounds so dumb, why would they force poor Iris to say something so idiotic
At 4:14 Barry looks like he wants a have a little smooch from cait
Snowberry always and forever ♥
I went to Google Trends. Compared Snowbarry to Westallen. Websearches... Meh (Although there was a lot of SB around the first season of the flash). I couldn't say the same about RUclips and picture searches. There's almost no point where Westallen beats Snowbarry. Could that possibly state something about the SB fandom? That we are much stronger than we assumed? And that possibly we could make a change to the direction of the show? Hopeful to say the least.
THEY MUST END UP TOGETHER!!!!! 😭❤️❤️❤️
We will not be a minority for long snowbarry FANDOM is growing, thanks to you and the short scenes we get about Snowbarry don’t lose hope :):)
their convo feels much more real than wa convos. wa convos feel cartoonish
This is beautiful 😢
the writers are definitely scared of snowbarry’s capability to become everyone’s favorite ship because this right here is what i call potential.
Yes!
Snowbarry❤miss watching them
Me:Bruh They Shot Her Butt At The Beginning LOL XD
Why we cant see your subs? Maybe if the writers see you how much subs you have they know how many fans want snowbarry❤️❤️(btw I have subscribed you love your vids and snowbarry❤️)
Say hello to BARCHIES world..
LOL I'm also a Barchie shipper on Riverdale as well. Snowbarry, Barchie, none of my ships seem like they will ever come to fruition.
drlee2 it’s so frustrating
YES YES YES
DVD (BLU-RAY) box set hopefully contains all (good) deleted scenes like IZombie or Deadpool 2.
It's sad that we don't get snowbarry momments and I'm talking about their friendship, it's hard for people to know the depth of barry and Caitlyn's relationship
3:12 aye! 💯👌
WHYYYYY...WHYYYY DID THEY TAKE THIS OUT SNOWBARRY ALL THE WAYYYY😭😭😭
That is a Sence hahahaha
you sure this didn't make it into the episode? I swear I remember this happening when I watched the show.
The only thing that could make this better would be matchin clothes.
Μαρια Ιωαννιδου Are you blind. It is matching.
@@Jimmy_Jones i meant she doesnt say it
I want Cw or Flashroom writers.. or who ever management the Flash twitter account... make a Poll.. 2 options .. Westallen or Snowbarry... AND SEE WHO IS THE MINORITY !! ... I'm pretty sure we Won that bet 👏👏👏
Dude you need to hop on season 6
How do you get these deleted scenes if there DELETED
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssss
Not even talking about the pairing at this point. Grant and Danielle must have been pretty damn frustrated at all the scenes that were deleted between them or the lack of script between the two of them at this point.
What do u guys think about scarlet snow