I actually was rigging this a few days ago. My technique would be to use auto rig pro, and create 2 shapekeys, then just fix the shoulders on the left shapekey and the right shapekey, then use a driver for each to correct automatically based on shoulder and arm placement. I mentioned auto rig pro because it allows you to actually select 2 bones, the shapekey, and press a button to create the drivers automatically if you don't have any idea on how to do that yourself.
There are many techniques how you can make the shoulders deform properly but this character base mesh I used on this tutorial you don't need to add any extra bones, I have made some character check it out, it does not have extra bones for the shoulders but it still deform properly and it is a lowpoly character having 6000 to 7000 vertices ruclips.net/video/oX5MTXp_fCE/видео.html
This is cool, but I probably would parent the shoulder blade bone to the spine, not the shoulder, since the lats are back muscles and the 3d movement of the shoulder can make it really tricky to keep the shoulder blade in position
yes, you can even do that but their is more way to work with the shoulder and right now I have learned how to weight paint the character in such a way that you dont need an extra bone for the back I will make a video for that in future, right now I am little occupied at the moment please do tell me if you all having problems, so that I can help you all. Stay Safe Stay Creative :)
Anatomically speaking, the scapula is actually attached to the clavicle via the acromion, whereas it has no direct attachment to the spine at all (it's separated by a layer of muscle). So to me, parenting the scapula to the clavicle makes more sense, because the scapula really shouldn't stay in position when the shoulder's moving.
@@moldman5694 the rigging skeleton is not 100% congruent with the human skeleton. Bones in 3d softwares fulfil the role of real bones, muscles and tendons, because we don't have anything else. For example, characters will have "twist bones" in the arms and legs for better deformation, even though humans don't have them. Similarly, in the back, we are more interested in preserving the shape rather than realistic skeleton recreation. And here, the latissimus is far more important to simulate than the actual scapula. we only call it scapula bone for naming convention reasons.
A shoulder plate is a piece of exterior Armor for the shoulders and a shoulder blade, is the actual shoulder. With that being said, I refuse to fault you on the naming. That would be foolish since I myself knew nothing of rigging shoulder's before watching. So thank you very much.
Well yes it have many ways to solve, but the disadvantage of using shape-keys is that when you weight paint again the shapekey will be of no use, using this method is the best.
@@CopyCatBlack shape keys don't become less useful when redrawing vertex weights. Except when you need to edit the base shape. With shape keys you can create a fairly realistic simulation of muscles. But of course, if you need a rig to use in some game or in any other program, then shape keys will no longer be useful.
I tried following the tutorial but I got stuck at 7:43. When I did Zmin -180, the bone for rotation z source min is not reacting on any value. It only reacts if I use the max value not min or I change back to positive 180. But then when I duplicate and follow the adjustments for location, it's not moving the same as the video. Maybe a video with audio tutorial will help! I hope you update this tutorial ^_^
@@CopyCatBlack I recalculated roll to global +y. When that didn't worked I tried all axis and it didn't give the same positive results. Some were really wonky hahaha
@@lilac1484 i will be making a video on it. So sorry about this video that you all could not understand🙁🙁 I will be try my best to make a proper one 😀😀
I would love to follow this tutorial but the lack od audio makes it very diffivult to fully understand the reason behind your actions, While the subject is a interesting one, presentation wise it lacks.
@@nickdev Happy to help and if you have any problems I will try my best to make the video for you or, I could share another link of the video related to your problem.
there is free version and payed version www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/character/other/basemesh-5875e524-cab1-4253-b174-4949380c59b8 www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/other/basemeshcharacter
In this video, there is no sound in it. You can watch other video that is also related to it. There are 2 video where I showed you how to rig shoulder. ruclips.net/video/8q1yX7XeUQw/видео.htmlfeature=shared ruclips.net/video/HgrjlZpG7a0/видео.htmlfeature=shared Happy to help as always
predicted the absolute cinema pose ahead of time. truly a generational talent. nice rig
@@nuayoung25 thankQ :)
this is so much more elegant than all the rest of the complex rigs. simple and effective
I actually was rigging this a few days ago. My technique would be to use auto rig pro, and create 2 shapekeys, then just fix the shoulders on the left shapekey and the right shapekey, then use a driver for each to correct automatically based on shoulder and arm placement. I mentioned auto rig pro because it allows you to actually select 2 bones, the shapekey, and press a button to create the drivers automatically if you don't have any idea on how to do that yourself.
There are many techniques how you can make the shoulders deform properly but this character base mesh I used on this tutorial you don't need to add any extra bones, I have made some character check it out, it does not have extra bones for the shoulders but it still deform properly and it is a lowpoly character having 6000 to 7000 vertices
ruclips.net/video/oX5MTXp_fCE/видео.html
I don't want to be the asshole but I believe correct name is "shoulder blade". Thanks sharing a nice approach ^^
This is cool, but I probably would parent the shoulder blade bone to the spine, not the shoulder, since the lats are back muscles and the 3d movement of the shoulder can make it really tricky to keep the shoulder blade in position
yes, you can even do that but their is more way to work with the shoulder and right now I have learned how to weight paint the character in such a way that you dont need an extra bone for the back I will make a video for that in future, right now I am little occupied at the moment please do tell me if you all having problems, so that I can help you all. Stay Safe Stay Creative :)
Anatomically speaking, the scapula is actually attached to the clavicle via the acromion, whereas it has no direct attachment to the spine at all (it's separated by a layer of muscle). So to me, parenting the scapula to the clavicle makes more sense, because the scapula really shouldn't stay in position when the shoulder's moving.
@@moldman5694 the rigging skeleton is not 100% congruent with the human skeleton. Bones in 3d softwares fulfil the role of real bones, muscles and tendons, because we don't have anything else. For example, characters will have "twist bones" in the arms and legs for better deformation, even though humans don't have them. Similarly, in the back, we are more interested in preserving the shape rather than realistic skeleton recreation. And here, the latissimus is far more important to simulate than the actual scapula. we only call it scapula bone for naming convention reasons.
A shoulder plate is a piece of exterior Armor for the shoulders and a shoulder blade, is the actual shoulder. With that being said, I refuse to fault you on the naming. That would be foolish since I myself knew nothing of rigging shoulder's before watching. So thank you very much.
If you're creating a rig for blender-use only, it's easier to solve it with corrective shape keys.
Well yes it have many ways to solve, but the disadvantage of using shape-keys is that when you weight paint again the shapekey will be of no use, using this method is the best.
@@CopyCatBlack shape keys don't become less useful when redrawing vertex weights. Except when you need to edit the base shape. With shape keys you can create a fairly realistic simulation of muscles. But of course, if you need a rig to use in some game or in any other program, then shape keys will no longer be useful.
i think you mean shoulder BLADE, but still very solid.
wow, this is wonderful
Great lecture! thank you
I tried following the tutorial but I got stuck at 7:43. When I did Zmin -180, the bone for rotation z source min is not reacting on any value. It only reacts if I use the max value not min or I change back to positive 180. But then when I duplicate and follow the adjustments for location, it's not moving the same as the video. Maybe a video with audio tutorial will help! I hope you update this tutorial ^_^
I will try to make another video about transformation constraint. BTW it all depend on axis of the bones that you move
@@CopyCatBlack I recalculated roll to global +y. When that didn't worked I tried all axis and it didn't give the same positive results. Some were really wonky hahaha
@@lilac1484 i will be making a video on it.
So sorry about this video that you all could not understand🙁🙁 I will be try my best to make a proper one 😀😀
Here is the video ruclips.net/video/8q1yX7XeUQw/видео.html
Same, I have no idea how that works. Did you figure it out?
They have deleted the video :(
as always, happy to help beginner :)
where is the video?
@@moh.irfanrivaldi4326 they might have deleted the video
You can also watch my recent video that I post, it is also about how you can rig the shoulder
I would love to follow this tutorial but the lack od audio makes it very diffivult to fully understand the reason behind your actions, While the subject is a interesting one, presentation wise it lacks.
I will try to make a better version of it
@@CopyCatBlack With much thanks and appreciation, pal.
Here is the videoruclips.net/video/8q1yX7XeUQw/видео.html
the first tutorial on how not to make a tutorial, congratulations
If you dont understand this one then I have made other video about this where I talk about transformation constraint
heheh thank YOU!
5h40am and i came to check up this video... thanks bro... you are a friend! this video wil be added to my 'Blender AAATuts" list...
@@nickdev Happy to help and if you have any problems I will try my best to make the video for you or, I could share another link of the video related to your problem.
Can u get your model?
there is free version and payed version
www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/character/other/basemesh-5875e524-cab1-4253-b174-4949380c59b8
www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/other/basemeshcharacter
Where’s the voiceover?
In this video, there is no sound in it.
You can watch other video that is also related to it.
There are 2 video where I showed you how to rig shoulder.
ruclips.net/video/8q1yX7XeUQw/видео.htmlfeature=shared
ruclips.net/video/HgrjlZpG7a0/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Happy to help as always
@@CopyCatBlack cheers it was a great video. Interesting…
Interesting video but title is sort of misleading. When I see "shoulder plate" I think of armor.
Get a mic brotha
be patient I will buy mic and start a tutorial :)
can you do one for a vertical front raise of the arm
I will make a video on that
@@CopyCatBlack Thank you so much. Front lateral raise is by far the most difficult for me even with knowledge of drivers
@@arttest0156 here is the video
ruclips.net/video/HgrjlZpG7a0/видео.htmlsi=2XqCNZecFrCb7TpH