Jim Cornette Reviews CM Punk's Promo On Adam Page on AEW Dynamite
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2022
- From Episode 445 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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Thank you Adam for giving us an absolutely incredible Wrestlemania 40.
Can't believe this mark of a son called HAP is the son of DDT such a shame
@@matthewsengendo6302wait is Adam page Jake Roberts son?
"Anyway, let's get on to Jon Moxley" could wrap up Hangman's wrestling career in one sentence.
Nuts how these guys accurately predicted exactly what Punk was pissed about and what would happen…
Wow, looking back this is soooo accurate 😮
The amount of unintentional future predictions in this clip is insane. It’s like they predicted the entire fallout from this: Punk considering refusing to work with Page, the fight (even though it didn’t involve Page), and Tony’s lack of leadership being responsible for all of it. I’m starting to think they really do have a time machine
Or they could see the writing on the wall.
I think they have a very normal machine, it's just that everyone else was using a busy box and focusing on what they wanted to be happening rather than what was actually happening.
Punk got more press this week for his shoot than Hangman got the entire time he was AEW champion.
Punk is the best so no surprise
@@pleaseshutup7053 LMAO
All iv seen is "wrestling fans" bash punk for doing this. They don't understand at all. It was genius. The best thing he vould have done for business at this moment.
More buzz than the new Triple H era now
Don't be delusional there is no mainstream press here it is press amongst the internet marks that already watch the show every week. Viewership and rating are lower than before Punk came so stop painting Punk as the big savior for AEW
I remember a while back, honky Tonk man said he hosted a wrestling seminar with a lot of new guys, and guess who shows up as well? CLAUDIO! Guy was a star in the making, over huge in ROH and came to HtM’s seminar. Honky was yelling at Claudio “why are you even here?! You don’t need this!”
Maybe Claudio didn’t need to show up, but he wanted to learn from legends even when he was good in the ring already. The newer aew wrestlers should take note
They really think they don't need to learn anything bcz they created this revolution and created fan base of alternative wwe product and success of ALL IN was huge part that AEW is on TNT.
But true story is without Tony Khan there is no AEW and no deal with TNT. I bet you executive dint go with AEW bcz they organised ALL IN but their trust with tony Khan and their relations with shahid Khan and off course their billion dollar net worth and their football team in richest sporting league. But somehow this guys think ohhh we created AEW and now bigger star like punk FTR who are better than them needs to go bcz fans are behind them ignoring the indie guys
How many years ago?
I'd argue "Cesaro" had no business at an event for "new guys"...
If he wanted time with HTM, he could get that SEVERAL other ways...
Admire adults furthering their education
Disagree with adults attending high school, especially in an age of night school/online learning
@@NhBleker Currently ROH champ beating the likes of Dustin Rhodes...
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 and that's why Claudio deserves to be world Champ
@@darrengordon-hill It's called being humble. It's a seminar, it's not like Claudio taking 1 on 1 time from these guys. It's showing the new guys and displaying Claudio's mentality that even at his spot within that company at that time that he still saw the value to learn from HTM, even if it was only supposed to be for the new guys. That's leadership, to show that regardless of your spot to not think an opportunity to learn is beneath you.
After what happened at AEW last night PPV this is insane at how accurate Brian was by calling all this would happen!
I’m back here after the media scrum
Jesse Ventura once said (paraphrasing) Wrestler’s could never have a union because most couldn’t be trusted to be anything but out for themselves. AEW has given an opportunity to a lot of Indie talents, and they’re already bemoaning the fact bigger stars are coming in to try and improve the ratings and attendance.
Big point
JR said that wrestlers could never form a union since you can't get two wrestlers to agree where to eat lunch, much less on anything else.
It's like indie music fandom, they bitch when their favorite artist gets a bigger audience and finally start making enough money to sustain themselves. They want starving artists.
Jesse tried to unionize until hulk ratted him out and demon Vince put a stop to it to fuck and kill wrestlers for decades to come
Same thing with a fighters union. MMA is facing the exact same problem. There's too many of them who're out for themselves. There's only 4 or so who are comfortable with their pay/situation. Majority of the fighters complain about their pay and treatment but they won't come together and form a union.
“With my butterfly jeans and my pink t-shirt, cowboy babbbyy” 😂
@8:56
Punk is doing his job by keeping AEW in the news . His colleagues should be grateful
truth
I still to this day dont get why Adam never got reprimanded for this. If this “promo” was because of Punk’s drama with Cabana, that has NOTHING to do with Page. Stay put of it, do your job, collect your check.
Because he's friends with the evps
This was a really effective burial of hangman page, Jon moxley, and Eddie Kingston.
Good elevate hobbs starks Christian and Bryan as the main event players
@@pleaseshutup7053 and stop shoving scrawny Charisma vacuum Daniel Garcia down our throats.
When he said he’s the second best Kingston he’s shared a locker I was like damnnnnn but hey Kofi has the respect of Punk.
The thing that made hogan and flair was the promo ability. Same with rock and stone cold. Promo ability matters more than flipping around the ring foolishly
They knew how to work, which is the most important thing in wrestling. Its where sport and performance meet, where real and "fake" both exist at the same time. The magic of pro wrestling
Tell that to the Young Ducks.
@@renatocontrerasflores294 REmember when everyone (including Dave) used to bash Hogan for being a three note song, or Warrior for being stiff and having no patience in the ring? Hogan and Warrior look like Flair and Steamboat compared to some of these AEW hacks.
So true
Flair was in excellent condition his entire career. But, aside from that, I never went OOH, or AAH over any of his actual wrestling.
He owned the mic in a way never seen, or imagined before. He used it in ways people had never thought before.
That is far and away what made him the best. Because just about anyone who wasn't into wrestling could listen to for 3 minutes and want to see him get his ass kicked.
I understand not every wrestler is gonna be remotely like that. But, you've got to at least rip something off from a few other guys, or ask for some help before you just go out and drop a deuce in the middle of the ring on tv.
The embarrassing thing is that Adam Page thinks the guys who convinced him to portray himself as a broken down alcoholic loser for more than a year are his friends. Then those same friends convinced him to make a legit enemy out of the biggest star in the business.
HAHAHAHAH THE BIGGEST STAR? OMG AHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAH
Reigns is a much bigger star, Lesnar is a 10 times bigger star, Cena is a much bigger star, EDGE is a much bigger star
You’re completely insane you Punk mark, Punk is so massively overrated inring, Rollins, Styles, Priest, Balor, Owens, Zayn, Danielson, they are all better than Punk inring, i can name a 100 more, his promo’s are incredible but he’s nowhere near the biggest star in the business, his return made ratings and whatnot and that was it, now he’s the biggest star in AEW but that’s all.
Dude, you do understand wrestling is not real right? You understand there is more to life than wrestling? You sound like such a massive mark, thinking this way.
@@Ghost-Face420 cope
I'm a cowboy I wear butterfly's on my crotch 😆 🤣 Jim's went ham on this segment.
Corny just HAD to get a jab at Jericho in this as well! 😆
it’s FACTS though
Usually does have to cry about people he don't like even if it has nothing to do with the topic
Cause fuck that song and dance mofo. Lol 😂
Crony is an old sore grandpa
😂😂😂😂😂 I said that too
I still enjoy the A.E.W fanboys that claimed "Page's storytelling for 2 years was an elaborate build up!" Then he goes right back into "I thought we were friends" storyline again lol. Might as well put him into a monster of the week cartoon show from the 80's.
It’s so funny. They ain’t got a clue they think this is master storytelling.
@@fenbops so what is the story AEW freak
All the elite storyline are .."thought we were friends" and it all comes off so bad it's not wrestling at all.
they think two wrestlers interacting for 10 seconds every 4 months is long term story telling.
@@mvrtinxz650 ADHD booking ..it's awful and the formatting hasn't changed at all my no improvements at all, just the same bad stuff nobody likes
I like how people are calling out Punk for burying Adam Page, when left to his own devices Page buried himself by driving a Tesla and “hanging” with the Dark Order.
Punk proved once again he’s the best by burying page. Loved it
I don't care about him burying Page Punk just proved he's a problem everywhere he goes and he's full of himself. He should be in the march for women's rights not in the wrestling ring
I don't care about Page but Punk is a crybaby who botches a lot and thinks he is the best in the world or something. He is not. Not even close. This crybaby just became what he whined about all those years ago. An old guy taking the spotlight away from younger wrestlers. He should have put MJF over but noooo.
@v b So “crybaby” Punk should’ve put over MJF; the guy who cried as he left the company? Really?
@George Kirby Let’s look at the people who’ve had problems with Pumk. HHH, Stephanie, Vince, Colt Cabana and Adam Page. All stooges. The Rock and Cena seemed to like Punk okay.
It’s so funny how everybody wanted to jump on Punk but once they hear Hangman did it first, it’s all fabricated or it’s fine
So true look at the comment section still jumping onto to punk for being “unprofessional “
Who said that? Which farmer store did you buy this strawman?
Hangman said it to punk’s face like a real man. Punk is the true coward.
@@merlotpapi4930 I’ve literally seen this argument everywhere on wrestling RUclips and Twitter for 3+ days. Not sure where you’ve been.
@@dope3544 Hangman was in the building. Punk invited him out. You think Punk wouldn’t have repeated himself once Page got to the ring. Don’t shoot in Punk if you don’t want him to shoot back.
Actually the advice thing is not exclusive to adam page , there has been many instances over the years since AEW started where the wrestlers expressed that they either don't need advice or won't follow it , kenny omega for example said his style was good the way it is for many years but now he said he'll need to have a safer style after the injury ( which could've been avoided or lessened had he done that from the beginning ) , also when regal and bryan danielson came they set up a ring and would come early to shows so they can train and teach the new gen ( which is how they started training jade cargill ) but apparently few wrestlers came or listened to them , which is sad when you can see how a lot of them wasted the opportunity to benefit from having one of the two best technical wrestlers of our time
Jesus. That is such a wasted learning opportunity to just not show up when Bryan Danielson and Regal are basically doing a free seminar every god damn week.
If I were an AEW wrestler, I would love to have Arn Anderson, Dean Malenko, Jim Ross, and William Regal give me advice about the business.
If Tony Khan "encouraged" the younger wrestlers to attend those training sessions in a typical boss way then they would go. Stuff like this starts with the leadership. How good you are as a worker and how much you improve has no correlation with getting pushed so where's the incentive?
@@gabic8320 yeah idk what better learning opportunity you could ask for , also tbh there were wrestlers that attended such as ricky starks and others but it was mostly younger more humble talent , a lot of the other guys that are ' established ' didn't because they probably see themselves above this
@@IanSane i have a theory that tony kahn has this giant wheel in his office with every wrestlers name on it and like once every 2 weeks he spins it and whichever name it lands on is his favorite wrestler and they get to peg him for the next 2 weeks and let them do whatever they want
Jim doing a parody of Cowboy by Kid Rock was hysterical.
I'm just hoping Rocky Ramone or someone else puts it to music!
and accurate. lol
I'm shocked Jim would use that POS's music in any fashion
@@Vagajammer I don't think he put that much thought into it... it was just what popped in his head at the moment.
@@Vagajammer Aww did Kid Rock hurt your feelings? Did he make you cry? LMMFAO
The nickname Hangman is too cool for the direction Page has gone recently.
He got that nickname for being good at Hangman.. the word game.. nothing to do with hanging people, that's how lame he and the rest of the Elite are.
@@LoboLocoX didn’t he have a noose around his neck and a bandanna covering his face in NJPW?
haha yeah, still trying to figure out how he's a cowboy.
CM Punk completely Buried that Jobber Adam Page on the Mic it was Glorious
Touché
I'm glad Corny addressed Punk's UFC career, because that's immediately what the AEW marks latched on to put Punk down and discredit him (low hanging fruit). Suddenly Vince and WWE were right and they are no longer the villains who they were going at "war" against 😂😂😂I can't get over how easily these people get butt hurt.
No, he's not discredited for failing in the UFC. He's bashed for using his celebrity to be put in front of much deserving and actual fighters.
You also left out how he tried to act like a fake tough guy by not shaking his first opponent's hand... an inexperienced fighter who was a milk truck driver and was cherrypicked for him so that Punk could win. The other guy that destroyed Punk was a mere photographer. His entitlement, and fake "tough guy" act rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.
Had he humbled himself, trained and fought in some low/entry level mma organization from the bottom, and worked his way up, then he wouldn't be bashed nearly as much. But we can't let the actual truth be mentioned when someone's trying to make a biased point obviously...
@@MisterJonesification if I am correct, the post fight interview with Mickey Gall took a subtle swipe at punk back then. HAHA
@@MisterJonesification all true, but let's not exaggerate the part about the photographer "destroying" him. They had the world's most boring 15 minute "fight" where the photographer was just slightly less awful than Punk.
And rightfully so because it matters. It’s a joke that an even less athletic washed up version of punk who embarrassed himself in the UFC had the world title put on him. An important part of pro wrestling is Suspension of disbelief.
Suspension of Belief IS important.
On that note, does anybody believe the Cucamonga kids could win a real fight, even against 0-Life Shawn Michaels?? Does anybody believe that Pockets is a wrestler and not a stoner working at Kroger?? Does anybody believe JeriCrashPad when he claims botches don’t exist as he botched the speech he gave decrying the term botch?? Did anybody believe that Marko Stunt was older than 12?? Does anybody believe that Cutlet is even a wrestler and not a 160lb camera stooge?? Does anybody believe that Michael Nakazawa is a wrestler and not a creepy pervert??
Believability IS key.
When Cornette said "Who do these guys think they are?" That's what I was thinking, Adam Page, you are not worthy to have a Skype Call with The Rock, let alone act like you're The Rock. 🙄
I realy wanna live in the Universe where we get Heel Punk with Cornette as manager
fax!!!
I think Punk will be like Bret Hart, he's gonna be a heel for Elite fans and face for Anti Elite fans.
Fakest tough guy ever I don’t get how you guys like cm crysack
Call me crazy, but all that stuff happening right now around Punk and Elite could possibly make AEW a bigger threat to WWE than WCW was
@@dutchvanderlinde3635 LOL. The Elite don't have a quarter of the drawing power of the nWo or any of the face WCW guys they went up against.
Seeing all this,my respect for cody Rhodes is increased..
Lol why because Cody only left because of his own ego…he wanted more money lol…Respect my ass 😭😂😂
Got out while the getting was good....great for cody he knows what's coming for that "company"
I'm with you on that
@@mackdaddy2153 And why do you think Punk waited to come back once the Elite and Khan had done the work to set up a promotion other than WWE that could give its top stars a 7 figure paycheck? They're wrestlers, in the wrestling business, they're all in it for the money.
The fact Jim is aware of Cowboy by Kid Rock tickles me.
When mocking a fake cowboy, why not use music by another fake cowboy??
Jim Ross was on fire this night aswell.
“Nobody slapping legs” 🦵
In other words, Page brought a knife to a gunfight and Punk just blew him away.
Butterfly jean wearing dip sh*t is amazing lol
I take Punk’s side on this one lol this whole situation is hilarious
After All Out, this escalated quickly 🤣
AEW: We totally did some elaborate long term storytelling with Hangman Page. He's a fully fleshed out human being who is sensitive to the modern world.
What actually happened: We'll split you and Omega up. Send you back to the bottom of the card with a bunch of minions who sadly lost their leader (joke aside, rest in peace Brodie), leave you there for a while and oh crap we gotta shove you back in the title picture without any momentum so Kenny can battle Vertigo (probably got it from listening to U2 too often) but you can stay in the midcard as the champ.
No matter what side you’re on, we should be all able to agree that Hangman should be grateful Punk brought him back to relevance.
💯
Ehhhhh
@@mistanderson it’s true. Page is more relevant even more than when he was champion
The funny thing is: Going into the business for yourself works. Either of them may get fired for it, but if not, the company will use the free publicity and go along with the feud.
By taking his title and botching his moves? LOL?
The key thing i took from this was the statement from Paige where he said he didnt need to listen the the vets. This is why it never mattered that Arn, Tully, Jake, Malenko, and JR where there since they were never gonna make a difference anyway. To me it feels like the indie side of the roster spent too much time "in the wild" of the indies and cant be taught anymore. Its why i laugh at all the talk about a AEW performance center.
that is why on aew, you hear about injuries all the time. nxt, good or bad booking aside. they got talent a year into this that are competent in the ring.
Nice reach
You can tell its the entire roster and thats why nobody can work anything but gimmick marches. And none of the matches make sense, none of the moves make sense, nothing on this show makes sense because they have no experience and wont listen to people who do
When JR joined that company he said the young guys don't listen to anyone. Some of the talent have a style, and they're going to work how they want even if it looks bad or gets somebody hurt.
He said he listened but decided to learn and do things his own way. There's nothing Page said that was disrespectful at all. CM Punk looks like a massive crybaby by comparison.
Let me guess Jim is gonna defend Punk's unprofessional ass lol
But Jim’s right.
@Juicebox tha Homie Jim is right cm punk is the best
He invented a whole conspiracy theory about Page to justify him defending Punk. Worth a listen if you want a laugh.
@@clawy99 Yeah, nothing they said about Page was frankly reprehensible enough to warrant Punk burying him on live television. Page made some obscure references during his promo feud with Punk leading up to DoN, and later politely said he doesn't always take the advice of vets during a convention Q&A no one watched, and somehow that warrants being completely buried by Punk on live TV? That's horse crap.
@@clawy99if you had any self-awareness, you would feel embarrassed right now. same for the other silly billy below you.
Let's look at both events in context: 1) Hangman's goal was to catch Punk flat-footed and embarrass him on live TV. If his plan had worked, it could have hurt PPV buys and even future business because their top babyface is now convincingly painted as an enemy of the locker room. 2) Beyond the words Punk said, he was essentially challenging Paige to go off script again when Punk was ready for it this time. He called him a coward not because his on-screen character didn't come out for a rematch, but because Paige had no problem going into business for himself when it was essentially a sucker punch, but was nowhere to be seen when it would have been on an even playing field. This could only actually hurt Paige and only so much further because Paige hasn't been wrestling in matches and has been reduced down the Dark Order's cheerleader in the trios tournament. Objectively, in full context, I would have to side with Punk as the one striking back and as the one whose actions were far more measured and judicious.
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If I was wrestling Paige I would be happy with it.
Adam “Page,” however…
What is the first action by Page you are referring to?
@@InSearchOfNostalgia Punk and Page had a face to face promo on the last Dynamite before the PPV. Page got in Punk's face and delivered an angry rant about how Punk was a poison to the locker room and that he was going to protect AEW from Punk, etc. According to what we know now, that was not what they had discussed and it was not the planned segment. When Punk says "disrespect," that's what he's referring to.
Page was in catering apparently 🤷
Jim was right about the whole situation from the onset!!!
He took his own.path and ended up back with the dork order doing bad comedy 😂
Lmao you can’t make this stuff up
Getting ice cream and riding lawn mowers
Maybe Cody saw these backstage issues simmering and walked away...
Cody starting to look smarter and smarter for that decision and Cody had go away heat with me but it's starting to be proving it's TK and the Elite that are the problem
@@Sky_Blaze Elite also got heat with FTR. So yeah it alot going on back stage
Cody walked because after the bigger stars like punk turned up he wasn't valued so highly, plus the fans started booing him and his wife which hurt his ego
Jim's love affair for Punk is on level for Uncle Dave's love for Omega.
I’m glad somebody noticed this as well
Preach
Yup
I know. I don't understand the love that Corny has for Punk either. 🤷
Or you could say, Jim's love for 'wrestlers' who take his business seriously and strive to make people suspend disbelief for at least a moment, is on level with uncle dave's love of those who think the future of the wrestling business is dick flipping, wrestling rubber dolls and generally winking at the camera to please a tiny audience of performance artist fans.
The triple h promo on punk from years ago aged so well
and everyone wrongfully hated HHH for it now they see the light
Unfortunately true. As much as I love Punk on AEW, he is a total prick on a personal level
@@ec5018 Sadly I was one of them. I can admit I was wrong about HHH... he's done wonders for the business in giving back and paving a road for the future of professional wrestling. Punk has done nothing but collect pay checks, act embittered, and take away from the business while burying future talent.
@@billywashere6965 I wouldn't absolve HHH from the blame just because hes done well with NXT. It was pretty clear hunter buried a lot of people. Him and his clique seemed to matured lately but they were still cancers at some point
@@ec5018 wrongfully dude, Triple H buried punk's momentum post money in the bank, He brought Kevin Nash in there at SummerSlam, At night of champions put his position as COO on the line, beat punk, २ weeks later punk takes the pin for ३ way hell in a cell, Then triple in storyline loses his position as COO and at vengeance, Punk gets pinned again by Miz and r truth, Wtf, A part timer keeping himself strong while putting the rising start down, I don't blame punk for his grudge against Hunter, heck is anyone gonna forget that og match at WrestleMania ३० was triple h's pet projects Batista and Randy, fighting against each other and only reason they changed it cause people's booing forced them to
As much as I enjoy AEW it's very telling that the hottest feud they've had were against 2 guys who have had traditional training
@@jamesb1988 punk and mjf
They’re just the two most talented guys there.
Colt Cabana to Adam Page........probably, "Chill dude. I'm collecting a paycheck. Keep my name out your fuckin mouth!"
Punk should adopt a “Hollywood Punk” gimmick and act like he’s too good for AEW and that’s why he’s taking up all their money.
It would be glorious.
As well as true 😂
That would be brilliant!
The fans love him so much, are they ready for the turn.
I mean he would have to be in a movie people have seen. He wont change his character because he sniffs his own ass and takes himself too serious. He either plays a self righteous baby face who panders to the crowd or a self righteous heel who shits on them because he’s straight edge
A heel CM Punk coming out in a suit and tie would get crazy heat
Even if Page's promo missed the mark, it was for promoting a match. Punk's wasn't. He deserves criticism for it. Harsh criticism but for whatever reason Cornette refuses to a say a single bad word about him as if he's been 100% gold the second he showed up in AEW despite the fact that he injured himself doing a stupid dive into the audience mere days after winning the top title. It almost feels like indoctrination, the kind most AEW fans are in general when it comes to their favorite wrestling promotion.
Jim will let Punk slide because he at least sees that Punk “gets it”, as far as the basics of the business. Whereas he sees the Elite as dudes who are literally destroying and making a joke of the business Jim has devoted his life to. So he’s going to side with Punk even if it was Punk being unprofessional.
Jim never had to deal with Punk. they may have been at a ring of honor show in 2003 or 2004. he was out of ovw just months before Punk got there. he certainly never had to business with the guy. Jim is right about Adam Page in this situation. he is getting too much of a pass from the dirt sheets and the marks.
Yeah, I'm listening to this right now and almost confused on what he is talking about against what happened with Punk's piece on Dynamite where Hangman didn't even appear....
With this logic punk also promoting a rematch with page. So both are true
Its fucking incredible how far Page has fallen. Dude could have been made to be one of the most over babyfaces in modern wrestling but he fucking floundered it. And he got pissy that CM Punk was taking his spot. I can't even defend him anymore
But you can defend a crybaby who took a private matter and made it public?
@@billywashere6965 Paige literally started it???
@@bobbybalboa2050 Then Punk should have addresse the issue privately with Page. It looks unprofessional petty broadcasting dirty laundry in the public.
@@billywashere6965 for better or worse that’s not how things get handled in wrestling
No punk is the reason you dont see colt cabana
I like CM Punk a lot but why call someone out who isn't in the building? And why wait this long?
oh ok I think I get it, I just watched the promo - I guess he's in Page's hometown so it makes sense to call him out like that to make Page look like a total bitch
He broke his foot…. Where you been?
He was in the building and page can respond next week. When wrestling was great storylines weren’t done in a week
@@Ultra_Light_Beam oh I didn't know what the timeline was - I was legit asking, all I know about wrestling is what Jim talks about lol
Paige would CRUSH punk, cmon that's not even debatable lol
It is punk is a trained fighter
@@pleaseshutup7053 ok
When Jim's right he's fucking right.
Its incredible how aew fans have gone from Punks the second coming to despising him. Fickle bunch.
Definitely fickle
Fickle
I loved Stone cold Steve Moxley got buried on the mic.
Pfffft.... _Stone Cold Steve Moxley..._ that's a good one! 🤣🤣🤣
Dunno mox is a shitty wrestler, but he says decent shit two out of ten times.
"You think your the best in the world sometimes you ain't even the best in catering" that made me laugh, of course punk won that with bleeding line and pointing out Mox is shit
That rolls right off the tongue
also Loved how SCSM told the truth about punk only returning cus he was going broke 😂
I like that AEW allows the wrasslers to go off script, even when it may go amiss. At least it is not always the same old predictable story arcs. The best promos have some basis in reality, so it makes sense that Page and Punk would go after each other over real-life issues. We are all following this closely because of the drama Page created.
Haha word. Kinda giving me some vibes of Brett-Shawn in the 90s, they obviously don't see eye to eye, but just makes things more interesting
Aew is just so garbage wwe is still better even tho it's horrible to
The problem with AEW has never been the promos. It’s the fucking booking. And much of the in-ring product. And their play by play guy directing his work to the smarks they have instead of the casual fans they need… which essentially illustrates the rest of their problems. But when you have an owner that lets one of their champions make a mockery of the business with performance garbage erotica in barns, AEW’s problems are far greater than something that very good promos rooted in reality can help.
I think there's a different from "off script" to going into business for themselves, I like Adam page but that segment before the PPV was super weird and punk looked visibly confused. Sure, let the guys do their own promos so we can see their actual character and charisma but you can't just change topic midway through, there has to be SOME form of structure or 1 stray line could ruin a full program which page nearly did
@@user-uo1qr6vn1q hahaha oh we rasslin fans all know everything
And if you are a long time listener to Cornette, he liked Adam Page. He was rooting for Adam Page. Nobody made Adam Page unlikable but Adam Page. But Jim Cornette is the crazy shock jock, right?
I couldn't wait to hear what Jim thought of this
Of course he takes up for Punk because Punk was one of the ones in the Synn club
Yea jim and Brian might as well blow punk. Just like they might as well blow flair and go down on charolette. It's sickening how much these people don't do no wrong
@@bigdaddyroy5382 Well, of course Jim is going to take up for Punk. Jim is a man with firm principles and looks out for other people who share similar ideologies because THAT’S WHAT FUCKING WORKS! Why would anyone sympathize with sissy prancing dolls? Hmm?
Plus, Punk understands the business to a degree only few in the AEW roster can even begin to comprehend. He single-handedly plucked Hangman out of obscurity after Hangman got buried in the roster once he lost his title. Look at the bigger picture, pal!
@@bigdaddyroy5382 Brian doesn't even count. That's Jim "back in my day" cornette echo more than a person. 99% of the time he'll always agree with back in my day of 75 so I never take guy remotely seriously
@@kolz4ever1980 then why are you here?😂
Is Jim afraid to criticize punk?
What is there to criticize that’s like criticizing The Rock and Austin during the attitude Era
I agree with calling Khan’s feet claws. He has no leadership at all
This issue has really shown up all of the wrestling "news" outlets, who all just played up the surface "PUNK SHOOTS, LOCKER ROOM IN CHAOS!" stuff. Jim virtually alone put this into the exact correct context, and that is the context of the AEW "originals" who think the company is theirs and that they're untouchable stars (see the Bucks' continued burial of FTR, which even continues with the Trios championship no one cares about but is being placed above tag teams).
Underrated
Fuck the revival
It’s so true, the so called “Originals” can’t fathom that real stars came into the company and took over, there was no way in hell AEW would succeed with the children on top lmao.
Your last point is 100% accurate, I actually forgot who even held the tag belts right now
Imo in a better world, Wardlow and FTR would just team up and take the trios belt too.
Punk could kick Cornette dog and he still would think best wrestler walking on earth lol
We gotta look into what dirt CM Phil might have on old Jimbo because I've never seen someone act so fanboyish over another grown man.
Does Meltzer slobbing Elite knob since 2016 ring a bell??
Pritchard and Johnny Ace with every bad Vince idea??
Russo’s fanboy obsession with Da Jehry Springah show bro??
I wonder what Tony Khan has on all you fanboys?? Likely footage of you weirdos harassing Japanese children into having wrestling matches with Harpo Fingerfuck.
@@thebatmanwhoposts9600 Meltzer and Omega? Tony Khan and everyone at a press conference? Lol
@@JGilbert11 true but Jim presents himself as an old school straight shooter no BS kinda guy. I don't think I've ever heard him criticize Punk ever.
@@thebatmanwhoposts9600 yeah I think he's brought up the botches before but thats about it. Tbh punks programs have been the best on TV since he came back. They all made sense which is what Jim loves the most about Punk
CM PUNK is awesome, he's great, he makes watching AEW so unpredictable, love him or hate him, he's able to elicit a reaction from the crowd, he has fans eating out the palm of his hand, when he speaks, people listen, many fans nowadays get offended easily and don't have the balls to cross the line.
Wrestling is at its finest when you can't tell fact from fiction, promos and storytelling is what makes wrestling great not the flippy floppy no in-ring psychology hardcore crap we see every week on AEW.
From what I see, he did Hangman a favour, what has Hangman done since losing to White? nothing important but hanging with jobbers like The Dark Order, all his momentum has cooled off because TK is an amateur booker, he's reminding fans that Hangman was once the champ, now Hangman has some buzz back on him.
This might lead to important character development for a bland generic one dimensional personality of Hangman which he really much needs.
Bro u need to go outside
His promo’s are amazing, always were, he’s incredible on the Mic, with that being said, he’s massively overrated inring, there are many better talents than him + he’s a whiny little baby, who apparently also did alot of backstage politics at ROH.
@@davidgaskins2589 Holy fuck he does. Jesus Christ Punk is not as good as these marks make him out to be
Exactly. Punk is the only reason I started watching AEW
CM Punk is great in the ring but god, don't ever give him a mic. His promos are awful as hell.
I don’t like CM Punk but he’s so above this company… If he didn’t have a falling out with Vince and HHH I’d suggest he try to go there.
Triple H would take him back if money could be made. Both he and Stephanie have already said on record they'd take his wife back in a heartbeat. They would take him back. I doubt HE would take them back though.
He's damaged goods by WWE standards he's lucky to be in aew. You take away his absence and you realize he's just a guy. Very few are going to solely watch aew because of him.
WWE doesn’t want Punk lmao. They could’ve had him in 2020. They passed
@@purplegorilla9592 source?
"That was Page doing the same thing to Punk"
See Jim, this is why we won't always agree with you. I stood by Punk since day one, but this? It's not the same thing. When Page delivered his "Pipe bomb" to Punk, he did it to his face, knowing he'd get in shit backstage or knowing that Punk could return the favor (master of pipe bombs, or so we think). When Punk returned that favor, it was months after the fact, with Page being absent from the entire building, and knowing Khan would not discipline him for it. You tell me what's coward shit.
Been getting annoyed at how many people are just brushing off Page’s going into business for himself first while they trash Punk for it. There could be money here in a feud after Moxley if they put this into promos. Maybe could get a bit more emotion out of Page, as I don’t hate him, just think there’s areas in which he could improve a fair bit, he’s young.
You’re right. Page deserves some of the blame. However, when he did what he did, he was in a feud with Punk. Punk not being in a feud with Page made his comments kind of petty. I wish these adult men would be adults and not snipe at each other on TV like teenagers.
Punk is the Vet and shouldn’t be offended over something like that when he’s the King of Pipebombs and roasting people, hell he roasted Paul Bearer, Triple H to his face, said the company would be better when Vince dies and whatnot, whether true or not, Punk shouldn’t be the one crying like a little Bitch, + he’s massively overrated inring, his promo’s are incredible, but he’s 0% legit (UFC, physique) & there are so many better people Inring.
@Comfy Reviews 👍
@Comfy Reviews exactly
@Comfy Reviews page can respond next week it’s wrestling. Not everything is done in 1 week
I was never a big Punk fan when he was in WWE and I'm also not a big fan now. But you can like him or hate him, we all have to admit he stirs the pot, he makes this company relevant. He with MJF, FTR, Claudio, Danielson, Wardlow, Gunn Club and the Acclaimed are best wrestlers right now on that Roster and half of them are booked weird or just wrong. So yeah he has every right to school these indie darlings a bit, they need it.
That's what he's known for, stirring the pot. Not much of a real fighter but he can talk
He makes it so relevant that it hasnt drawn a million viewers in ages
@@shahood8116 it’s not his fault. It’s Tony’s 100% if he let veterans write the story and book the show. or even ask guys like MJF how should they book this segment. they would get a lot of talent over and would get a million viewers, but they don’t care about storylines. It’s about matches that are randomly put together with no build. It’s not Punk’s fault that Tony Khan doesn’t know what he’s doing.
What about Miro?
@@antiwoodblog yes sorry i forgot about him, maybe because his previous run was more or less pretty bad, too much on AEW seems so inconsistent, but his booking right now seem tempting with that house of black feud.
When I first heard about this going down on I was on Page's side because I thought Punk was being whiny in a 'I'm taking my ball and going home' the way he gets over dramatic - but then learning more about the background, that Page had that disrespectful comment and promo before, and then the brewing passive aggressive backstage politics we've heard about the Young Bucks that pissed off other wrestlers -- its more evident that Punk got tired of their shit and pretty much said "oK, you have a problem with me? Say it to my face!"
This must be what Brian alluded to when he talked about the Bucks pulling passive aggressive shit that we would hear more and more about with their politics in AEW.
Adam Page was one of the guys I looked forward to the most when I started watching AEW. His matches made sense, the hits and falls meant something, and he looked good doing it all. Then he had that no sell no psychology match with Adam Cole and he's barely been watchable since. We've seen them both have that kind of match, but until then it was always in one of those multiman tag team matches with The Young Bucks, who always have to do ten super kicks anyway. That was the first time I saw either man have a match like that on their own, and in my opinion it's not a change for the better.
Couldn't agree more page's matches were great
@@ii9714 he became Kenny Omega 2.0
THIS is the review/opinion on this i been waiting for!
same. in mma forums, everyone jokes about how easy cm punk would be in a fight, but if hangman has 0 fight training... cm punk stomps his ass
@Comfy Reviews exactly. Why do these guys think Punk can fight? Punk isn't a fighter.
It is obviously a biased opinion because Jim has to defend his Atheist buddy
@@omarhosam8880 lol, what does religion have to do with it?
@@NoctuaOlivae That's a question to ask Jim not me. If punk was a religious right wing conservative Cornette would have had a different opinion
Could you image if Darby said he doesn’t need Stings advice.
Or if Hook said to Taz, "Dad, when I want your advice, I'll let you know."
Punk is to jim what omega is to dave meltzer, pathetic.
Jim and Brian called it: When real stars come in, all the indie outlaw mud show guys are gonna get jealous and start whining because they know they are minor league.
If it came down to a shoot, Page would fold punk like a chair. Let’s be honest, Punk got bullied by 170lbs guys in the UFC & Page has 60-75 lbs on him!
Dudes who fight at 170 have cut serious weight dude. They generally walk around at 190+. Khabib fought at 155 but walks around at close to 200 lbs.
You think Page walks around at 270 lbs? That’s Lesnar weight. 😆 Page has maybe 15 lbs on Punk, if that.
Having said that, Page is clearly a very strong athletic dude. Punk isn’t. But Punk is legitimately a tough dude with heart who has a couple of years of training with one of the best fight camps in the world.
It would actually be an interesting fight.
@@mariosargiropoulos1715 Page kills Punk if they got into a fight
A trained fighter vs a fake cowboy I'll take punk on that bet
QAZ OMEN “Trained fighter” 😂😂😂😂🤡
8:55 when you're on a good rant, and you go off track for a second. 😂😂
With all due respect to both Cornette & Punk, Punk has not been "a money generator". He sells lots of T-shirts to people who were ALREADY fans of his, and I'm willing to say he helped the buy rate of the ppv where he fought MJF in their dog collar match, but AEW has NOT grown their audience since signing him. Let's be realistic.
*I* started watching wrestling again when Punk showed up in AEW. I know I ain't the only one.
@@sweetswaggerlee You're probably not, but it's not like he caused a seismic shift in the ratings. Dynamite still draws between approximately 900,000 to 1,000,000 viewers weekly.
@@theeXodusof730 asking Punk to overcome Tony’s booking is ask a lot. Punk’s great but he’s not a miracle worker.
And what has Page done ?
@@Ausbrahdave nothing particularly noreworthy. And?
Ppl are really mad at punk in this situation that’s what’s funny to me work or shoot anything punk does will get the company more attention then Adam page who is legitimately a mid carder he took a low blow with bringing up colt cabana there at really isn’t any argument for it, these dudes are legitimately jealous of guys like Punk, Bryan, FTR and MJF it’s sickening
Has Cornette EVER criticized CM Punk for Anything ?
Backstage at AEW is spicier than cayenne
If Jim and Brian watched punk fight, they would know he's never kicking anyone's ass.... Ever
You mean the one where he fought an actual trained fighter?
@@admincxs1670 actually two, both having their first pro fights, and punk was trained by some of the best in the business. So like cornette and Brian, you're commenting on something you know nothing about. Good try though
It's hilarious to see the AEW marks on the comments all upset about CM Punk supposedly being whiny and unprofessional and being mad that Jim hasn't turned on Punk, when they support the Elite, who actually are the kind of people they accuse Punk of being.
Punk is the best. Why would he turn on him
Yes its only AEW marks that have a problem Pepsi Philip. I do enjoy this meme that because Jim likes it, then you people need to like it to unquestionably. I despise AEW but I also despise CM Punk, where do I fit in? Because a shitload of people are on my boat right now.
@@merlotpapi4930 I didn't say everyone who doesn't like CM Punk is an AEW mark. I'm referring specifically to the people who think what he said about Page is proof he's so toxic, and think Jim needed to turn on him because of it, but have nothing to say about the Elite kliqing it up. If you don't like CM Punk, or think he shouldn't have said what he said about Page, fine. I disagree. But I'm specifically referring to the people who think this came from nowhere.
I don't like Aew but I sure as hell don't like Punk. HHH was right about him. He is an unprofessional hack and no one buys a ticket to WM saying "oh I want to see CM Punk"
Two things can be true. They all seem to whine too much for people getting paid a $h!t ton of money to hardly ever work.
"You butterfly jean wearing dipsh*t" was the highlight for me. LMAOOO
I have zero faith Punk could beat anyone in real life in Aew
Serpentico, Jungle Boy, Marko Stunt, Luther, Darby Alin, Sting. Moving on.
@@wilcee238 you must not have seen how Luther looks lately lol
@Comfy Reviews I bet Marco would slip from underneath him and Punk would go headfirst into the ground.
If Marko stunt was still in the company he could prob beat punk’s ass too
Neither could Shawn Michaels. That’s not really the point of pro wrestling.
Shots fired at Y2J @8:30 😂😂😂
"I wanna be a cowboy baby,
with my butterfly jeans
and my pink t-shirt
Cowboy baby."
😂😂😂
I know 😂🤣
So, it's time to accept that the FTR idea was okay, but Cornette as manager of heel champion Punk would be legendary...
Punk doesn’t need a mouthpiece though
True, but him and Heyman were good together, no?
@@leetant935 they really were. That's a rarity in the wrestling world. Having a manager that can talk and a wrestler who can as well
Cornette managing all three and it would rival his midnight express run.
I personally think this is their last resort at a believable Work that anybody would care about BUT Tony Khan has proven with the MJF stuff that he actually has no control of ppl shooting on tv and when stuff is just a shoot with no work behind,the product suffers. So either this is all very clever and Tony getting smart or these guys are actually shooting in which case nobody will ever do a job for anybody and the fans suffer because it just becomes Mean Girls vs Mean Girls cutting promos on eachother.
Well said.
It's been that way already with the way Britt Baker does her promos. She absolutely buries her opponents in her promos, never does any proper buildup. One would think she learned it from Punk, not her boyfriend Cole
It’s more fun to believe TK doesent know what he is doing
Even after seeing Page’s promo reposted on Twitter, I couldn’t tell what the hell pissed Punk off. That promo was nonsensical & hysterical
@Comfy Reviews Which shows how pathetic Punk is, really.
@@billywashere6965 I guarantee that’s not the only altercation that has happened the past 4 months. We only see what happens with the cameras on
@@YK_J3ST3R That's a really good point, but it also points to the professionalism of Page that he hasn't publicly buried Punk in any way, regardless of what personal/private beefs they have, opposite of what Punk did to him on live television.
@@billywashere6965 the issue is a lack of professionalism from Page. Punk is the top guy and if someone’s being a smarmy little bitch he has every right to put them in their place publicly, regardless of what your personal opinion of either man is.
@@YK_J3ST3R Being a top guy doesn't give you a right to bury the lockeroom though.
“Entitled, whiny, fragile, not susceptible to criticism” Jim you just described CM Punk’s entire career 😂
Oh, thought you were describing Page, Kenny, and the Bucks.
Adam page was literally quoted from a recent interview as "doesn't take advice"
@@Ultra_Light_Beam Both things can be true simultaneously
@@davidburke7777 you're really not wrong. It's like two different perspectives on wrestling that even wrestlers cant compromise on
Tony has no baIIs to be a strong leader. Now inmates are running the prison.
Have been. They have been. Difference is Jericho, Bucks, BlackHouse, are all boring and what Punk does is pretty interesting.
Great way of being putting it. I was confused as fuck by that Hangman promo at the time and now thinking about it, it’s fair enough Punk got his own back.
Did you guys actually watch punks ufc fights ?!!!! He literally had no offense and got embarrassed both times! My money would be on Page to win in a real fight !
The fact that they believed it even though we've seen Punk get destroyed is hilarious.
I find it funny how if Jim likes you he'll defend you to no end he hates Riddle and ignores his much more accomplished UFC career and thinks he can't legit beat up people like Rollins and Reigns but he loves Punk and he trained for 2 fights so he's a world beater
10:15 Brian perfectly states how Adam Page started all this, how he's an amateur, unprofessional, and is only out for himself and his close friends in the back... PUNK IS NOT A LOCKER ROOM CANCER IN AEW, GUYS LIKE ADAM PAGE ARE.
Exactly. It's blatantly obvious the Elite have been trying to cut the legs out from the people who get more over than them like FTR and Punk, even if it hurts the product, but these AEW marks just lose it at the idea that someone might say something back.
Exactly
Punk has been a locker room cancer virtually everywhere he's been. Just because Page is a dirt bag doesn't mean Punk isn't. Not to mention Page shot on Punk because he had TK shuffle Cabana out of AEW.
Yeah because that's the only time Punk decided to be a prick, right???. Also did people read the reports about Punk threatening to quit and walk out on AEW or we are just pretending it does not exist????
Multiple wrestlers have come out to say punk is a dickhead over the years. Can’t say the same for Adam Page
The Idea of creating a perfect pro wrestling moment is to blur the line between shoot and work. CM Punk is doing it. He might piss off the marks but make them believe in the process.
Hangman lost me with the butterfly jeans. Didn't understand that at all and will not accept that from a champion. Terrible.
I agree with Jim on this one HOWEVER….I agree with HOFer Booker T that it’s a big difference when you’re in a program with someone and you go off script. Which is what Handjobber Adam Page did, as opposed to Punk going off script and addressing HAP when he is in a program with Mox. Now that said, this all falls on Tony Khan not having any control over his company. And if he doesn’t manage to clean this shit up ASAP, he is gonna lose Punk AND MJF. It’s all related imo.
I stopped watching WWE around 2010- 2015 & came back as my son got more into WWE...I find it curious that CM Punk showed up just before Heels started & then was "injured" around time to film the 2nd season...We'll see if the extra drama brings more ratings...
He was shit absolute shit in heels too
It didnt
I've been waiting for Corny & Last's opinion on this
Jim Cornette singing Cult of Personality is impossible to listen to. Punk challenged a guy that couldn’t do anything. Page was in the same ring with Punk. I don’t like either, but Punk is a straight coward.
The irony is that the song is about people like him and those who follow him mindlessly
Take this segment and Dax tweet to Meltzer about FTR having issues with the Bucks and I think we can see the AEW locker room Civil War sides are now drawn up: Punk & FTR vs Hangman, the bucks, and Omega. And I think it ends with one side leaving. And if Punk is really as big a draw for AEW as Tony said he is (at that media scrum) then I don’t see him siding with “The Elite.” If he does side with them it will expose the company as a Mickey Mouse organization that is just playing wrestling federation with their rich friends dads money and not a real business. At a time Tony is looking for a new contract with a big raise… there is no way the network gives them that after the biggest draw they have walks out the door. I think “the elite” are gonna be pretty disappointed in what happens if they try to flex their stroke.
They believe their own hype.
Or.... they could Bret and Shawn this shoot into a work.
Sadly, if the Elite & Friends leaves, I imagine a lot of the core AEW audience would leave as well. For some reason they love those wrestlers. Which is ironic because they seem to have the ego of Hogan with a fraction of the drawing power.
Between this and his comments about Moxley... im so glad Punk is back. He's like a pitcher of ice water in a hot desert.
Exactly, he’s taking all these idiot indie kids and showing them how it’s done. I can’t wait till he turns full heel/tweener and starts going at Tony and AEW for all their flaws. I’d love to see punk bury AEW and I wouldn’t even mind
People coming at punk but this the most attention aew has gotten in a while as well as hangman..
He’s the best
No way punk doesn’t hurt himself if he gets into a shoot fight with anybody
He'd probably have his ass handed to him.
Im glad CM Punk is handing out reality checks to this wrestling primadonnas. Not that he isnt the biggest primadonna of em all but at least hes a real star.
After this I don't want to hear Brian last and jim Cornette talk about how awful Shawan Michaels or Hogan were, and it is an established fact and both of them were bigger stars than Punk can even dream of
And all Hulk did was go into business for himself...like not selling Macho Man's flying elbows. Hulk no-selled every fucking thing
Exactly! Punk pulling backstage private matters into the public sphere to bury the whole locker room is ridiculous, and Cornette is defending him? Why? Nothing Punk did is remotely professional, and I would trust him LESS in the ring than Hangman, who hasn't injured anyone, puts on great matches, is considered a generally likable and nice guy backstage, and -- even when Hangman did have issues -- didn't bury anyone publicly about it (and really, compare Hangman's comments to Punk's comments -- Punk just buried the guy who wasn't even there and made one of their top babyfaces look like crap).
@@billywashere6965 I am not even a page fan but what Punk did was absolutely ridiculous. Jim and Brian absolutely destroy Jericho every time for no apparent reason