Fun fact about Sting: in the Fairy tail 100 years side quest manga, when sorano asking him to go out with her, he says to her to quit it and when she aks who he between yukino and minerva likes, he literally says "Im focused on Natsu-san"
Lucy was originally intended as the protagonist. A few chapters in, Mashima realized that he was coming up with all of these storylines about Natsu, so just decided to go with it.
@@Mad13366 Yeah. Me too. She's still one of my all-time favorite female anime characters. The destruction of the sliding power scale did her in. 100 Years Quest is marginally better in its treatment of Lucy though far and away better written.
I just know the moment Fried gets over Laxus and stops following him like a lost puppy, Laxus is gonna be like “wait a minute” and then it’s boom roles reversed
I remember I ship those two as a kid and now I'm a teen, I saw a fanfic I made a long time ago and I question myself: "Man, I was horny as fuck when I was a kiddo 💀" My grammar back then was incredibly bad and I hope nobody sees that fanfic ever again (it was created around 2017-2018 ish 😭)
I like that different fans could come together discuss different topics like we can have a healthy conversation about an anime we all and still get along
The fact that Mashima never intended for NaLu to be a thing but now has written himself into a corner where he has to make them canon somehow is hilarious. In 100 yrs quest he’s really pushing that Natsu is attracted to Lucy in all these fans service scenes.
You said it. It is his own fault, but to be extremely fair this didn't really become a major thing until the portion of 100 Years Quest where the gang somehow makes it back to Edolas and meets back up with Edolas Nalu to find them married and they have a kid. Until then he had ways of writing around their relationship. Once he showed that he was screwed. I'm sure he remembered the lore that while people are likely different personality wise in Edolas from their Earthland counterparts the lives of each character would likely be on parallel trajectories regardless of the world they are on. In other words, even though Natsu and Lucy act differently than their Edolas counterparts their lives are likely going to be on the same path in both Earthland and Edolas. Earthland Natsu and Lucy are just taking longer to get their because their story is still being written.
I actually disagree. Lucy canonically has a girl crush on Erza and Mirajane, and Virgo is a Zodiac who explicitly manifests as her master's desires. Her master is Lucy and she takes the form of a masochistic maid girl. Lucy is totally bi. Mirajane, she has a very BDSM-like dynamic with Erza in the manga (we only see it in the OVAs) so I do think sex is a pretty big thing for her but only if she's into you.
@@patriciahouse5680she isn’t GAY but she definitely has shown attraction to women multiple times throughout the serious. i mean the very first thing she did when she met erza was blush & say “wow she’s pretty”. it’s pretty obvious she likes both men & women
Lucy is definitely bi, she has too many moments of being obviously into women in some capacity for me to think otherwise. Also this may just be me but I like to headcanon Natsu as aromantic.
also funniest part of the ace natsu argument is when natsu will get natsu to get in a sexy outfit to like work her charm on the enemy and when it doesn't work he's like "oh i thought that would work you're not actually sexy" as if he were like this blind person trying to guess if she is sexy, like sexual attraction is completely alien to him and he has to rely on the analysis of others to draw conclusions.
16:30 so there is actually a reason for why Aquarius in general (the zodiac sign) is an air sign but associated with water. the myths that originally aligned with the zodiac signs had the myth of Aquarius be associated with both water & air, but after that context was removed, it was left as "water-bearer air sign", the air signs represent the mind, while water signs represent emotions. obvious Aquarius in fairy tail is very emotional, but her being a water-bearer really just is because of the sign being the leftovers of a myth & deity associated with both water & air
I fucking love that fairy tail is now being talked about more positively. I've always loved the show/manga and even though the plot gets kinda silly, the characters were always the main draw and I'm glad people are finally giving FT and Mashima his fucking crown. Speaking of, have you guys watched Edens Zero? It's really good and while the cast isn't as big as in FT, they are really good and even the plot is genuinely compelling. I would also highly recommend reading the manga for FT and EZ since Mashima's artstyle is amazing and the anime can only do so much.
1:40:25 as an old Nalu fan, YES he's hating nalu relationship in a passion. I read this manga up-to-date every week. I know my pain, my girl Lucy was getting ridiculous every week because of this relationship. Her development and being main character completely disappeared and began to exist as a relationship that doesn't exist
How does hiro hate nalu☠️ He still thinks Lucy is a better fit for natsu than Lisanna too He said Lisanna wasn't even meant to come back in the first place
@@OND7430 He never meant them to be a coupe and weirdly I can see it, I shipped NaLu before watching the show but after starting to watch it Natsu treats Lucy like he treats everyone else and doesn't really react to her in the form of attraction it's only later where I think he started making it as to please people
@@anastasija6866 And then 100 Years Quest and the gang catches back up with their Edolas counterparts and Natsu and Lucy find out their counterparts are married and have a kid.
I personally think natsu is ace in the sense that you have to be very close or have a spacial bond with him for him to have romantic feelings for you because later on in the anime and manga we see him starting to have romantic feelings towards Lucy heck when he left to go train we see that he meet up with Gildarts we see him blush when gildarts brings up Lucy's name also any ace people wanna add to this please go ahead and give me your insight
I think that’s called being demiromantic, where you need a strong emotional bond to experience romantic attraction. But yeah, I can see natsu being either ace or just extremely dense and innocent, maybe even both. Been a while since I watched fairy tail but wasnt there a lucy fan service scene where natsu didnt interpret it as smth sexual
I was explaining my asexuality to a boy in high school and he was like "omg, like a shonen protagonist!" I think he was referring to natsu dragneel, goku, or the likes
Lmao struggling to find fairytale after Netflix drops it. Man 2015 in high-school trying to fight tooth and nail to get gmg episodes in dubbed. And when I finally watched that Boi assert his dominance ohhhhhweeeeeee
Omg i love this. The amount of rwby references, basically the same opinions and headcannons, the humor, i have found my community! Thank you for pushing the gays for fairytail agenda, we need more of us.
I personally somehow interpretate Juvia/Gray and Erza/Jellal are somehow both these bisexual pairs, which is to some extant since i saw that picture the author made where he paired Erza/Juvia and Jellal/Gray together staring at each other and i somehow kinda got this feeling from it and never was able to think about them in another way in my headcanon
i personally find juvia too obessive. i like that grey and juvia grew into a thing over time. but imo grey was more groomed into it then it naturally happened, tbh
She tried to date-rape him with a love potion. They shouldn't have gotten together at all. Meanwile Freed was basically the healthy version of her, so of course he's the one to not get his man.
as a gruvia shipper i think it's kinda odd how it went down, too. in their first arcs together, they had a lot of chemistry and most of juvia's missteps were her not understanding boundaries. in tenrou island she became more bold in her affections but it wasn't terrible, but after the timeskip the show pushed her antics into being intentionally creepy for "comedy". that goes on for a while and then suddenly...he's just cool w it? i think mashima realized how fucking weird their relationship got and decided to just scrap it and restart.
@@screamingwhales4031 I think the detriment to a lot of Mashima’s writing is that he refuses to drop certain gags. The Japanese audience loves Juvia’s obsessive yandere shit so Mashima often caters to that and leaves any sort of meaningful characterization to rot.
@@miamaru414 yup, mashima loves his comedic gags at the expense of character growth. for example, i know that mashima dislikes nalu which is why they've had so little romantic moments but oooo boy are fanservice moments between them not in short supply!! at least for gray and juvia in the sequel manga things have dialed down and they have a ~mutually attached~ situationship thang going on. messy, but it's better than the stale "crazy woman" joke.
I feel like Juvia was also obsessive because of the bullying she went through when she was younger, she had been isolated and therefore didn’t know what it was like to have people care about her. I’m also making just some observations based on the scene we got when we first met her. Fyi, I also haven’t rewatched fairy tail in a long while so my info might not be completely accurate
this take might be heavily influenced by fanfiction, so take it as you will. But, while Fried does give baby gay, obsessed with a straight guy, energy (especially when its played up for comedy) He also has this mature, resigned energy almost, where he knows Laxus will never love him but he feels as if Laxus is the only one for him and he's made peace with that; knowing that he'll never be over him and choosing to just support him as a friend. Again, could be wrong, but that's just my take.
I am laughing so hard that all of Blue Pegasus is not present, especially Ichiya cuz that was the one I was waiting for y'all to get into. And interesting that none of the Exceeds like Happy were on here either
We I think at the time we intentionally left out the exceeds cause we didn’t wanna think about them I think at the time we tried to keep it to fairy tail and the characters we enjoyed cause if we did EVERYONE it would have been 5 hours 😭
Dude I haven’t watched Fairytale since I was a sophomore in high school. Now I have to go watch it all over again because you guys have reminded me how much I loved it.
I love how long this video is! I watch your content at work and I adore the way you edit things. Thanks so much for making my work day a little better!
I love this anime so much. I watched it when i didnt really know what to watch and just wanted something to listen to while playing Video games. In the end i found an anime which i at first really didnt expect to enjoy that much, but fell in love with all the characters and their friendship and is now actually one of my favourite animes ever.
I disagree with Natsu being an ace. It's not that he doesn't care about romance or sex, it's something else. As compelling as the argument is and the evidence given throughout the show, it's the interpretation. And Maxwell puts it well into words, but overlooks the ENTIRETY of the situations they bring up and the pattern in them. Whenever Lucy is put naked in front of him (big yikes and honestly obnoxious), it's in situations where there are more important things to worry about, like survival (ex. The four dragons attacking Crocus, the Ichiya apocalypse, sneaking into Avatar base, etc.). The man has priorities and knows what is and isn't essential at the moment. He doesn’t have time to care or acknowledge it because their lives and everyone else’s is on the line at that moment. During the Grand Magic Games Arc, after Lucy loses, she goes to take a shower and we get that scene where the idea of walking in on Lucy dawns on Natsu and he tries to do just that but is stopped by Erza is only one example, but it’s the moment where Natsu isn’t fighting, isn’t in a life or death situation, or watching a guildmate compete. I guess another example would be when he breaks into Lucy’s apartment and catches her “Lucy Kick” and holds her upside down, he does blush when her towel drops and gets wide eyed. He pauses when he realizes what he’s done and takes the hit from her. A third time he’s cared is when he and Gray (during the Grand Magic Games Arc) were leaning forward over the railing, looking down into the area in pure shock and small blushes at Mirajane and Jenny’s “battle”. And then the fact that he’s oblivious. He has that… youthful innocence to him where at the moment going on adventures is all that matters to him. I guess you could say he hasn’t matured just yet. But overall he could just be oblivious and it doesn’t hit him until way later. So if he isn’t ace, what do I think he is? Pansexual. To me, he seems like a guy who doesn't care about gender/sex and only cares about what lies in their personality. Which makes him open to more than just Lucy. And I agree, he definitely wants someone who can keep up with him, go on adventures with him, and not hold him down. I also disagree about him being closed off with PDA. With how extroverted he is and how open he is with emotions, it’s hard seeing him hold back affection. He definitely would be showing off his partner any chance he got and showing them affection despite who could be watching. To me, he seems almost clingy. I mean, with the way Igneel “abandoned” him, it makes sense if he had that bit of clinginess (not as much as Juvia though). I just found that to be where I disagreed and wanted to explain my side. I respect your guys' opinions, but here are just my own two cents on it.
I agree on not really seeing Natsu as ace, but he has HEAVY aro vibes (at least to me, an aroace who sees some of myself in there). He's never seemed to think about romance at all or even consider that his actions might come off as flirting ("hey Lucy come meet me alone wink wink. Yeah I just wanna dig a hole. Wait why are you mad?") though he certainly is attracted to Lucy in other ways.
I knew I sensed the gay energy from Sting!! I feel validated for simping for him now 🥹🥹 Enjoyed the video, and I hope to see more FT content, and possibly the rewrite mentioned 👀👀 Either way, I'll watch any content I can
Yassss for the fairy tail content this has been my fav anime since I first watched it and it will be continue to be my fav anime of all time haters be damned also yes no one in this anime is straight regardless of what anyone thinks but I’ll say that makes shipping a lot of fun(I personally love sting x rogue and freed x laxus but that’s just me)Im currently waiting on the 100 years quest to get released also is it just me or does Pyrrha remind me so much of erza despite the plot armor also the further my point in my mind there’s no way laxus is straight cuz if freed is gay bickslow is bi and evergreen is lesbian I’m sorry but there’s no way he’s straight
Fun fact about that Erza vs azuma moment where she said that the seduction armor was for "private" use (while also pondering if she try to seduce azuma before denying it while throwing shade at Lucy). Turns out that private use was code for Erza put's seduction armor on Lucy and have her be eye candy for her and mirajane.
y’all i love this video and y’all are great however in my op lucy is sooo bi coded ep 1 she is simping for mira // the lucy and jett trans headcannon is EVERYTHING to me
i feel lisanna should just have been the doppelganger in the other world, and the characters being able to be with her for a little while, and then leaving, knowing a version of her is doing well and is happy and such. also if she didnt die, natsu and lisanna would have been a couple
From what I heard Lisanna was originally supposed to stay dead, but apparently one of the animators or writers (can't remember which one) really liked her and so Mashima decided to bring her back for whatever reason. Not sure how true this is, but it would explain why she became a seemingly unimportant background character after the Edolas Arc. Shame really.
Cana gay as FUCK for Lucy and Juvia, in my rewatch I was shocked w how straight up she was w her flirting. Also, love to hear that I'm not alone in the Trans!Levy boat.
i went and got a snack when u got to natsu and while i was doing that i was thinking about how my read on him was ace so im glad i sat down and was immediately validated. i really like him as a protag because of that, because too much focus on sexual jokes tends to distract from story or vibes (especially in shounen stuff), so this feels refreshing. i think macao and wakabas wives are real but both the men and women are dating each other. the marriages are for convenience.
i would honestly argue lucy is almost glaringly bisexual ... most of her *ships* revolve around men, yes, but i dont really think straight girls buy sports illustrated. to me shes clearly attracted to mirajane even if she doesnt pursue her. but i am a lesbian, so maybe ive got blinders
Ok I need a Winx Club version of the now. Bloomers is a lesbian you cannot change my mind. she went for the most obvious straight relationships she could find whilst Stella was right there. She's got a bad case of compulsive heterosexuality. Please I need to be hard
the energy in this video is so funny i love this fairy tail needs more gay videos and headcanons like this instead of ai booby erza art flooding the fan community
Yeeees I was waiting for this!! Fairy Tail is the first actual anime I watched that lead me into seeking out more and more shows to get into. I was devastated when I learned how mean people were to it online lmaooo for a moment I thought if my nostalgia lenses made it good for me but nah man, Fairy Tail slaps nostalgia or not people are just mean fksbsiavx Super excited to see this new Fairy Tail era!! (The fairies are never too far in your channel huh!!) 🧚
29:53 but they do make contracts. the spirits enter into the contract with their wishes heard and sanctified in the contract. the spirits are not slaves
I’m also a nalu trash and I’ve been waiting for more than decadessss for them to be canon. Istg if Mashima did a sike & didn’t paired them at the end, I’ll lose it.
I might edit or comment some more later, but... I think that Sting canonically loves Natsu... or at least it seems like so on the latest chapters of 100 y.q
Honestly I felt like the grandpa, Gray and Elfman were more like Allies. They wouldn't enjoy playing for the same team but would punch anyone that spoke out against it.
My head canon is that all the spirits are ace since it wouldn't make sense for them to be capable of reproduction. But some of them are still capable of emotional attraction.❤
The way Lucy talked about Erza in the beginning of the show she definitely is bi or pan, I can also see trans fem,, but that's because I am under the oppintion that any and every character can be made trans. Though trans Elfman never crossed my mind, and I love that for him, the characters it has were Natsu and Lucy, with Midnight as well being enby.
Personally, personally, Laxus is a denial bisexual. I don’t ship them but no straight man would accept a massage in a bathhouse from Fried, even if he doesn’t realize it. Or maybe it’s just a Japanese culture thing that I don’t know about.
I think in Cobra's case, I don't see him as gay because I don't see him into humans at all, that man is into beastiality and the only reason the story had to turn his snake into a woman is because they wanted to make his attraction more PG13 😂
No matter the amount of Power of Friendship, i’m still kinda attached to this show~ (and I’m a big NaLu hater, Natsu is a shonen hero, the type i just don’t see dating anybody ever.)
Bisexual disaster here, and FT is honestly one of my fave shows. Is it silly, yes. Do I love it anyway, also yes. Edit: Also, 44:44 , that is a mood ans a half- Extra Edit: I heard Fairy Tail rewrite in the Loke section and I am now intrigued-
Laxus is most definitely not straight. I am sorry i really get that vibe from him. That hot single celebrity who everyone ships with all the hot single women but is actually gay.
Not going to lie, I thought you were going to reference 50% Off (abridge/parody done of Free!, created by Octopimp) when you were talking about Fried and the fetishizing of mlm for female audiences.
And there is not just me who thinks that natsu doesn't really have any interest and like dating or anything like I could maybe see him having like crushes when he was younger but I think as of now and even as he gets older he won't really want to like have like a relationship like a romantic type of relationship like you all said in the video I think he's the type of person he loves everyone and he wants to care for everyone and that's what he will always be comfortable with and want like I could see someone may be trying to make him date and he would just be annoyed and push them face like he doesn't want to date me what he just wants to have feelings for everyone and care for everyone is like also like you said like he could be dating someone but his affection would be for like everyone and it will it probably would be hard to date him
some gay events in FT (though i forget a lot so please feel free to add): -Levy being excited to see Lucy's boobs when she and Grey switch bodies/-half of Cana's and Lucy's conversations, but especially her and Lucy taking a bath together... like ik that was like a serious, Cana is getting her character arc because she's so sad moment, but also was really sapphic./ Virgo. VIRGO. Our girl loves Lucy at least as much as Loke does. BDSM queen. "am i punished, princess?" PLEASE that's so gay./ /Gajeel. I just -I would give anything to have the same relationship with someone as Gajeel has with EdoGajeel. Is this selfcest? Just a really good friendship? idk but their smirk exchanges all the time were so fucking cute I had to put it there./Lucy reading the Sorcerer and simping over Mirajane at the very beginning? That's sapphic. I'm sorry but Lucy definitely has a crush on Mirajane (actually, I'm not. Queer Lucy is a blessing)./Lucy seeing Erza for the first time had the same vibe as Yachi from Haikyuu meant Kiyoko, like full blown gasping and paralyzed because "she's so beautiful" that was queer. That was queer as hell. As she keeps doing it!/ Feel free to add
UGH YES the Lucy seeing erza for the first time is so real. And I feel like after that every girl who meets her for the first time falls in love with her (how could you not?!) Another example: Juvia meets Erza in the tower of heaven and immediately blushes and is so excited to finally meet her (and doesn't see her as a rival at all?) And unrelated to erza, but in the same arc, Juvia and Lucy fight that creepy heavy metal dude (forgot his name), and after they beat him they press their forheads together and have this very sweet and touching moment. How is that not saffic??? Like??? Ik I might be reading into it too much but all of these little moments give so many gay vibes lol
Fun fact about Sting: in the Fairy tail 100 years side quest manga, when sorano asking him to go out with her, he says to her to quit it and when she aks who he between yukino and minerva likes, he literally says "Im focused on Natsu-san"
Yes I seen it too I was surprised
Lucy needs to hurry her ass up before Sting shoots his shot.
In the recent chapter Sting also says Lucy is beautiful. Stinglu and Stingsu are gaining ground quickly. NaLu is in the ground.
Lucy was originally intended as the protagonist. A few chapters in, Mashima realized that he was coming up with all of these storylines about Natsu, so just decided to go with it.
Pretty much
And i think thats infuriating. I loved Lucy so much, i wish her hot more attention
@@Mad13366 Yeah. Me too. She's still one of my all-time favorite female anime characters. The destruction of the sliding power scale did her in. 100 Years Quest is marginally better in its treatment of Lucy though far and away better written.
i hate him for this choice
@@sue627 a bit strong, but yeah.
I just know the moment Fried gets over Laxus and stops following him like a lost puppy, Laxus is gonna be like “wait a minute” and then it’s boom roles reversed
I remember I ship those two as a kid and now I'm a teen, I saw a fanfic I made a long time ago and I question myself:
"Man, I was horny as fuck when I was a kiddo 💀"
My grammar back then was incredibly bad and I hope nobody sees that fanfic ever again (it was created around 2017-2018 ish 😭)
"Dark Lord Soft Boy" There are character types I never thought I'd hear together. Yet they oddly work with Zeref.
I like that different fans could come together discuss different topics like we can have a healthy conversation about an anime we all and still get along
It’s probably my fav part of any fandom
The fact that Mashima never intended for NaLu to be a thing but now has written himself into a corner where he has to make them canon somehow is hilarious. In 100 yrs quest he’s really pushing that Natsu is attracted to Lucy in all these fans service scenes.
I love that now he kinda gives us and with his new work just admits he likes the hero and heroine together
You said it. It is his own fault, but to be extremely fair this didn't really become a major thing until the portion of 100 Years Quest where the gang somehow makes it back to Edolas and meets back up with Edolas Nalu to find them married and they have a kid. Until then he had ways of writing around their relationship. Once he showed that he was screwed. I'm sure he remembered the lore that while people are likely different personality wise in Edolas from their Earthland counterparts the lives of each character would likely be on parallel trajectories regardless of the world they are on. In other words, even though Natsu and Lucy act differently than their Edolas counterparts their lives are likely going to be on the same path in both Earthland and Edolas. Earthland Natsu and Lucy are just taking longer to get their because their story is still being written.
@@thenomadicarc explained pefectly
I actually disagree. Lucy canonically has a girl crush on Erza and Mirajane, and Virgo is a Zodiac who explicitly manifests as her master's desires. Her master is Lucy and she takes the form of a masochistic maid girl. Lucy is totally bi.
Mirajane, she has a very BDSM-like dynamic with Erza in the manga (we only see it in the OVAs) so I do think sex is a pretty big thing for her but only if she's into you.
You can be ace and get into BDSM
That's cap Lucy isn't canonically gay she is straight
@@patriciahouse5680she isn’t GAY but she definitely has shown attraction to women multiple times throughout the serious. i mean the very first thing she did when she met erza was blush & say “wow she’s pretty”. it’s pretty obvious she likes both men & women
Lucy is definitely bi, she has too many moments of being obviously into women in some capacity for me to think otherwise. Also this may just be me but I like to headcanon Natsu as aromantic.
If girl crush is anything like a man crush, it does not mean she has any romantic or feelings towards them.
also funniest part of the ace natsu argument is when natsu will get natsu to get in a sexy outfit to like work her charm on the enemy and when it doesn't work he's like "oh i thought that would work you're not actually sexy" as if he were like this blind person trying to guess if she is sexy, like sexual attraction is completely alien to him and he has to rely on the analysis of others to draw conclusions.
16:30 so there is actually a reason for why Aquarius in general (the zodiac sign) is an air sign but associated with water. the myths that originally aligned with the zodiac signs had the myth of Aquarius be associated with both water & air, but after that context was removed, it was left as "water-bearer air sign", the air signs represent the mind, while water signs represent emotions. obvious Aquarius in fairy tail is very emotional, but her being a water-bearer really just is because of the sign being the leftovers of a myth & deity associated with both water & air
I fucking love that fairy tail is now being talked about more positively. I've always loved the show/manga and even though the plot gets kinda silly, the characters were always the main draw and I'm glad people are finally giving FT and Mashima his fucking crown. Speaking of, have you guys watched Edens Zero? It's really good and while the cast isn't as big as in FT, they are really good and even the plot is genuinely compelling. I would also highly recommend reading the manga for FT and EZ since Mashima's artstyle is amazing and the anime can only do so much.
What do you mean Mashima? He also got Rave Master.
I would be in LOVE with a Fairy Tail rewrite.
i SQUEALED whn you said "hades gives old gay whos bitter" BECAUSE THAT WAS DEADASS WHAT I WAS THINKINGGGGGG
1:40:25 as an old Nalu fan, YES he's hating nalu relationship in a passion. I read this manga up-to-date every week. I know my pain, my girl Lucy was getting ridiculous every week because of this relationship. Her development and being main character completely disappeared and began to exist as a relationship that doesn't exist
How does hiro hate nalu☠️
He still thinks Lucy is a better fit for natsu than Lisanna too
He said Lisanna wasn't even meant to come back in the first place
@@OND7430 He never meant them to be a coupe and weirdly I can see it, I shipped NaLu before watching the show but after starting to watch it Natsu treats Lucy like he treats everyone else and doesn't really react to her in the form of attraction it's only later where I think he started making it as to please people
@@anastasija6866 And then 100 Years Quest and the gang catches back up with their Edolas counterparts and Natsu and Lucy find out their counterparts are married and have a kid.
I personally think natsu is ace in the sense that you have to be very close or have a spacial bond with him for him to have romantic feelings for you because later on in the anime and manga we see him starting to have romantic feelings towards Lucy heck when he left to go train we see that he meet up with Gildarts we see him blush when gildarts brings up Lucy's name also any ace people wanna add to this please go ahead and give me your insight
I think that’s called being demiromantic, where you need a strong emotional bond to experience romantic attraction. But yeah, I can see natsu being either ace or just extremely dense and innocent, maybe even both. Been a while since I watched fairy tail but wasnt there a lucy fan service scene where natsu didnt interpret it as smth sexual
I was explaining my asexuality to a boy in high school and he was like "omg, like a shonen protagonist!" I think he was referring to natsu dragneel, goku, or the likes
Ah I’m a lesbian and enjoy fairy tale. Now it’s all making sense. It was basically preprogrammed for me to like.
The best plot twist the 2 jellals were 1 jellal and then out of nowhere, out of nowhere we got jellal 2 electric bugaloo
Lmao struggling to find fairytale after Netflix drops it. Man 2015 in high-school trying to fight tooth and nail to get gmg episodes in dubbed. And when I finally watched that Boi assert his dominance ohhhhhweeeeeee
Jellal: *makes up a whole story in his Siegrain persona about how he actually just has an evil twin brother, which Erza buys for years*
Mystogan:
Omg i love this. The amount of rwby references, basically the same opinions and headcannons, the humor, i have found my community! Thank you for pushing the gays for fairytail agenda, we need more of us.
First Winx content and now FairyTail, I'm officially in love with this channel. P.s Happy is the goat, fight me.
same
I personally somehow interpretate Juvia/Gray and Erza/Jellal are somehow both these bisexual pairs, which is to some extant since i saw that picture the author made where he paired Erza/Juvia and Jellal/Gray together staring at each other and i somehow kinda got this feeling from it and never was able to think about them in another way in my headcanon
i personally find juvia too obessive. i like that grey and juvia grew into a thing over time. but imo grey was more groomed into it then it naturally happened, tbh
She tried to date-rape him with a love potion. They shouldn't have gotten together at all. Meanwile Freed was basically the healthy version of her, so of course he's the one to not get his man.
as a gruvia shipper i think it's kinda odd how it went down, too. in their first arcs together, they had a lot of chemistry and most of juvia's missteps were her not understanding boundaries. in tenrou island she became more bold in her affections but it wasn't terrible, but after the timeskip the show pushed her antics into being intentionally creepy for "comedy". that goes on for a while and then suddenly...he's just cool w it? i think mashima realized how fucking weird their relationship got and decided to just scrap it and restart.
@@screamingwhales4031 I think the detriment to a lot of Mashima’s writing is that he refuses to drop certain gags. The Japanese audience loves Juvia’s obsessive yandere shit so Mashima often caters to that and leaves any sort of meaningful characterization to rot.
@@miamaru414 yup, mashima loves his comedic gags at the expense of character growth. for example, i know that mashima dislikes nalu which is why they've had so little romantic moments but oooo boy are fanservice moments between them not in short supply!! at least for gray and juvia in the sequel manga things have dialed down and they have a ~mutually attached~ situationship thang going on. messy, but it's better than the stale "crazy woman" joke.
I feel like Juvia was also obsessive because of the bullying she went through when she was younger, she had been isolated and therefore didn’t know what it was like to have people care about her. I’m also making just some observations based on the scene we got when we first met her. Fyi, I also haven’t rewatched fairy tail in a long while so my info might not be completely accurate
this take might be heavily influenced by fanfiction, so take it as you will. But, while Fried does give baby gay, obsessed with a straight guy, energy (especially when its played up for comedy) He also has this mature, resigned energy almost, where he knows Laxus will never love him but he feels as if Laxus is the only one for him and he's made peace with that; knowing that he'll never be over him and choosing to just support him as a friend. Again, could be wrong, but that's just my take.
I mean, it makes sense, and they are basically laxus cheerleader in roles an both haviong a crush on him,makes sense.
I am laughing so hard that all of Blue Pegasus is not present, especially Ichiya cuz that was the one I was waiting for y'all to get into. And interesting that none of the Exceeds like Happy were on here either
We I think at the time we intentionally left out the exceeds cause we didn’t wanna think about them
I think at the time we tried to keep it to fairy tail and the characters we enjoyed cause if we did EVERYONE it would have been 5 hours 😭
@@maxwellmediainc Did you not like Happy, Carla, and Lily? Also, my headcannon for the Exceeds:
Happy and Carla are Allies.
Lily is gay.
Dude I haven’t watched Fairytale since I was a sophomore in high school. Now I have to go watch it all over again because you guys have reminded me how much I loved it.
I love how long this video is! I watch your content at work and I adore the way you edit things. Thanks so much for making my work day a little better!
A winx fan, tswift fan, AND a fairy tail fan? That's like all my highschool hyperfixations.
I knew I subscribed to this channel for a reason.
I love this anime so much. I watched it when i didnt really know what to watch and just wanted something to listen to while playing Video games. In the end i found an anime which i at first really didnt expect to enjoy that much, but fell in love with all the characters and their friendship and is now actually one of my favourite animes ever.
I disagree with Natsu being an ace.
It's not that he doesn't care about romance or sex, it's something else. As compelling as the argument is and the evidence given throughout the show, it's the interpretation. And Maxwell puts it well into words, but overlooks the ENTIRETY of the situations they bring up and the pattern in them. Whenever Lucy is put naked in front of him (big yikes and honestly obnoxious), it's in situations where there are more important things to worry about, like survival (ex. The four dragons attacking Crocus, the Ichiya apocalypse, sneaking into Avatar base, etc.). The man has priorities and knows what is and isn't essential at the moment. He doesn’t have time to care or acknowledge it because their lives and everyone else’s is on the line at that moment.
During the Grand Magic Games Arc, after Lucy loses, she goes to take a shower and we get that scene where the idea of walking in on Lucy dawns on Natsu and he tries to do just that but is stopped by Erza is only one example, but it’s the moment where Natsu isn’t fighting, isn’t in a life or death situation, or watching a guildmate compete.
I guess another example would be when he breaks into Lucy’s apartment and catches her “Lucy Kick” and holds her upside down, he does blush when her towel drops and gets wide eyed. He pauses when he realizes what he’s done and takes the hit from her.
A third time he’s cared is when he and Gray (during the Grand Magic Games Arc) were leaning forward over the railing, looking down into the area in pure shock and small blushes at Mirajane and Jenny’s “battle”.
And then the fact that he’s oblivious. He has that… youthful innocence to him where at the moment going on adventures is all that matters to him. I guess you could say he hasn’t matured just yet. But overall he could just be oblivious and it doesn’t hit him until way later.
So if he isn’t ace, what do I think he is? Pansexual. To me, he seems like a guy who doesn't care about gender/sex and only cares about what lies in their personality. Which makes him open to more than just Lucy. And I agree, he definitely wants someone who can keep up with him, go on adventures with him, and not hold him down.
I also disagree about him being closed off with PDA. With how extroverted he is and how open he is with emotions, it’s hard seeing him hold back affection. He definitely would be showing off his partner any chance he got and showing them affection despite who could be watching. To me, he seems almost clingy. I mean, with the way Igneel “abandoned” him, it makes sense if he had that bit of clinginess (not as much as Juvia though).
I just found that to be where I disagreed and wanted to explain my side. I respect your guys' opinions, but here are just my own two cents on it.
I agree on not really seeing Natsu as ace, but he has HEAVY aro vibes (at least to me, an aroace who sees some of myself in there). He's never seemed to think about romance at all or even consider that his actions might come off as flirting ("hey Lucy come meet me alone wink wink. Yeah I just wanna dig a hole. Wait why are you mad?") though he certainly is attracted to Lucy in other ways.
@@Toon_Topazwhat do y’all mean by ace?
I disagree with Lucy, she's bisexual. But that's just me being a LucyErza fan.
I knew I sensed the gay energy from Sting!! I feel validated for simping for him now 🥹🥹
Enjoyed the video, and I hope to see more FT content, and possibly the rewrite mentioned 👀👀
Either way, I'll watch any content I can
Im ace too and so natsu being ace is too important to me, Ironically its what made me have a crush on him im glad people agree
At one point I legit thought Lucy would be with Erza lol
Knight and Princess XD
Thank you erlu is my fav ship
@@emmagayness6676 I always loved Lucy and Ezra's dynamic.
@@emmagayness6676Same!!!!
Yassss for the fairy tail content this has been my fav anime since I first watched it and it will be continue to be my fav anime of all time haters be damned also yes no one in this anime is straight regardless of what anyone thinks but I’ll say that makes shipping a lot of fun(I personally love sting x rogue and freed x laxus but that’s just me)Im currently waiting on the 100 years quest to get released also is it just me or does Pyrrha remind me so much of erza despite the plot armor also the further my point in my mind there’s no way laxus is straight cuz if freed is gay bickslow is bi and evergreen is lesbian I’m sorry but there’s no way he’s straight
Fun fact about that Erza vs azuma moment where she said that the seduction armor was for "private" use (while also pondering if she try to seduce azuma before denying it while throwing shade at Lucy). Turns out that private use was code for Erza put's seduction armor on Lucy and have her be eye candy for her and mirajane.
"No Zs. Well Zeref" YOU FORGOT ZANCROW
Everyone did.
This video has added 400 years to my lifespan.
1:32:21 WHAT NOOO how could you guys say Mest and Cobra while Lahar was right there QwQ it shocked and killed me when Lahar died because of them
y’all i love this video and y’all are great
however in my op
lucy is sooo bi coded
ep 1 she is simping for mira
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the lucy and jett trans headcannon is EVERYTHING to me
i feel lisanna should just have been the doppelganger in the other world, and the characters being able to be with her for a little while, and then leaving, knowing a version of her is doing well and is happy and such. also if she didnt die, natsu and lisanna would have been a couple
From what I heard Lisanna was originally supposed to stay dead, but apparently one of the animators or writers (can't remember which one) really liked her and so Mashima decided to bring her back for whatever reason.
Not sure how true this is, but it would explain why she became a seemingly unimportant background character after the Edolas Arc. Shame really.
Nah they wouldnt have
She was never meant to Comeback in the first place
Author said so himself
@@OND7430 did you even read the comment? i said IF, not that it should have.
@@robertlinke2666 I know but even if she didn't die. The author never planned for her and natsu to ever be a thing
that's what I mean
Cana gay as FUCK for Lucy and Juvia, in my rewatch I was shocked w how straight up she was w her flirting. Also, love to hear that I'm not alone in the Trans!Levy boat.
i went and got a snack when u got to natsu and while i was doing that i was thinking about how my read on him was ace so im glad i sat down and was immediately validated. i really like him as a protag because of that, because too much focus on sexual jokes tends to distract from story or vibes (especially in shounen stuff), so this feels refreshing.
i think macao and wakabas wives are real but both the men and women are dating each other. the marriages are for convenience.
Freed is not an idiot, he is just a simp.
i would honestly argue lucy is almost glaringly bisexual ... most of her *ships* revolve around men, yes, but i dont really think straight girls buy sports illustrated. to me shes clearly attracted to mirajane even if she doesnt pursue her. but i am a lesbian, so maybe ive got blinders
No, she has way to many probably ansrvice but regular oments with feale characters too, that hionestly ae not that dissimilar.
She buys them because she always wanted to be a model like Mira Jane.
Ok I need a Winx Club version of the now.
Bloomers is a lesbian you cannot change my mind.
she went for the most obvious straight relationships she could find whilst Stella was right there. She's got a bad case of compulsive heterosexuality. Please I need to be hard
the energy in this video is so funny i love this fairy tail needs more gay videos and headcanons like this instead of ai booby erza art flooding the fan community
NAHHHH LUCY IS BI🔥🔥🔥🔥
"Loves his sticks" "loves a good branch" 😭😭
Nastu is my ace icon!
Yeeees I was waiting for this!! Fairy Tail is the first actual anime I watched that lead me into seeking out more and more shows to get into. I was devastated when I learned how mean people were to it online lmaooo for a moment I thought if my nostalgia lenses made it good for me but nah man, Fairy Tail slaps nostalgia or not people are just mean fksbsiavx
Super excited to see this new Fairy Tail era!! (The fairies are never too far in your channel huh!!) 🧚
I would love to see Thomas's ranking of each fairytail opening!
29:53 but they do make contracts. the spirits enter into the contract with their wishes heard and sanctified in the contract.
the spirits are not slaves
Lisanna gets autocorrected to Lasagna for me, but I just call her "bad and completely irrelevant character"
Someone out here asking the REAL QUESTIONS.
I’m also a nalu trash and I’ve been waiting for more than decadessss for them to be canon. Istg if Mashima did a sike & didn’t paired them at the end, I’ll lose it.
This was a really fun watch, thanks for making such a cool video 👍🏾
I agree about Mest being gay but I honestly see him more with Lahar than Cobra.
Too bad that ship sank.
I might edit or comment some more later, but... I think that Sting canonically loves Natsu... or at least it seems like so on the latest chapters of 100 y.q
It’s fanservice for everybody!
And I think it’s better for it.
8:47
Leshawna
Also this video is hilarious and I agree with most of these actually
I can't wait to see more Fairy Tail content in the near future
her name is Luigi
Fairy tail was my first anime ever and holds my heart
And funfact the original author got the idea of fairy tail from drinking with his friends
Me wanting to watch a unicorn of war video.
Sees a fairy tail video
"STOP EVERYTHING IM GONNA BE BUSY FOR 2HRS!!!"
Honestly I felt like the grandpa, Gray and Elfman were more like Allies. They wouldn't enjoy playing for the same team but would punch anyone that spoke out against it.
My head canon is that all the spirits are ace since it wouldn't make sense for them to be capable of reproduction. But some of them are still capable of emotional attraction.❤
My first thought when I saw this title was "...it's not stright"
Lesbian Wendy! YES, MAH GIRL!
This was fun, now I look forward for more Fairy Tail content💕
You are now my enemy and a traitor
The way Lucy talked about Erza in the beginning of the show she definitely is bi or pan, I can also see trans fem,, but that's because I am under the oppintion that any and every character can be made trans. Though trans Elfman never crossed my mind, and I love that for him, the characters it has were Natsu and Lucy, with Midnight as well being enby.
Been so long since I watched this show... time for a rewatch
Laxas x Freed
Flare x Lucy
These are the first ones that come to mind
i know nothing of Fairy Tail but I will watch this longass video about it, lets go!!
Personally, personally, Laxus is a denial bisexual. I don’t ship them but no straight man would accept a massage in a bathhouse from Fried, even if he doesn’t realize it. Or maybe it’s just a Japanese culture thing that I don’t know about.
Her name is Louisiana.
Let's goooo!! Juvia is in the video!!!
Love your read on these characters would love to see more on other series
I think in Cobra's case, I don't see him as gay because I don't see him into humans at all, that man is into beastiality and the only reason the story had to turn his snake into a woman is because they wanted to make his attraction more PG13 😂
No matter the amount of Power of Friendship, i’m still kinda attached to this show~ (and I’m a big NaLu hater, Natsu is a shonen hero, the type i just don’t see dating anybody ever.)
The whole power of friendship thing honestly never even bothered me
I love Nalu tbh
@@midnightfox3157 It doesn't bother me either. Although I know it as the magic of friendship from another show.^^
So you think it's alright for Lucy to be alone, without anyone, when all the others are being paired off , it seems unfair to me.
I love NALU 🔥🔥
If fairytale is gay, it would be the quiet kid. While one piece would be the loud one lmao dancing around flamboyantly and speaking in their tone.
I'M SO FUCKING READY FOR THIS
Hiro mashima doesn't hate nalu😭
Bisexual disaster here, and FT is honestly one of my fave shows. Is it silly, yes. Do I love it anyway, also yes. Edit: Also, 44:44 , that is a mood ans a half-
Extra Edit: I heard Fairy Tail rewrite in the Loke section and I am now intrigued-
Fairytale is my favorite anime right now
1:06 omg he is Buck Angel you are right !
Alzack and Bisca are sooo bi4bi and t4t to me
Laxus is most definitely not straight. I am sorry i really get that vibe from him. That hot single celebrity who everyone ships with all the hot single women but is actually gay.
I think you might be talking about freed
If you remember laxus and mira had there moments quite a lot
Gray’s stripping habit is actually based on Hiro Mashima
Not going to lie, I thought you were going to reference 50% Off (abridge/parody done of Free!, created by Octopimp) when you were talking about Fried and the fetishizing of mlm for female audiences.
I got into fairy tail when I was twelve and I immediately fell in love with the hole show
The way they talk kinda remind me of Larray and Sir
I love Fairy Tail! Ezra is my favorite character!
Mine is Lucy
Erza is the greatest shonen woman. I won't take no argument on this.
And there is not just me who thinks that natsu doesn't really have any interest and like dating or anything like I could maybe see him having like crushes when he was younger but I think as of now and even as he gets older he won't really want to like have like a relationship like a romantic type of relationship like you all said in the video I think he's the type of person he loves everyone and he wants to care for everyone and that's what he will always be comfortable with and want like I could see someone may be trying to make him date and he would just be annoyed and push them face like he doesn't want to date me what he just wants to have feelings for everyone and care for everyone is like also like you said like he could be dating someone but his affection would be for like everyone and it will it probably would be hard to date him
i'd also say Levy would be into kink.
some gay events in FT (though i forget a lot so please feel free to add): -Levy being excited to see Lucy's boobs when she and Grey switch bodies/-half of Cana's and Lucy's conversations, but especially her and Lucy taking a bath together... like ik that was like a serious, Cana is getting her character arc because she's so sad moment, but also was really sapphic./ Virgo. VIRGO. Our girl loves Lucy at least as much as Loke does. BDSM queen. "am i punished, princess?" PLEASE that's so gay./ /Gajeel. I just -I would give anything to have the same relationship with someone as Gajeel has with EdoGajeel. Is this selfcest? Just a really good friendship? idk but their smirk exchanges all the time were so fucking cute I had to put it there./Lucy reading the Sorcerer and simping over Mirajane at the very beginning? That's sapphic. I'm sorry but Lucy definitely has a crush on Mirajane (actually, I'm not. Queer Lucy is a blessing)./Lucy seeing Erza for the first time had the same vibe as Yachi from Haikyuu meant Kiyoko, like full blown gasping and paralyzed because "she's so beautiful" that was queer. That was queer as hell. As she keeps doing it!/ Feel free to add
UGH YES the Lucy seeing erza for the first time is so real. And I feel like after that every girl who meets her for the first time falls in love with her (how could you not?!) Another example: Juvia meets Erza in the tower of heaven and immediately blushes and is so excited to finally meet her (and doesn't see her as a rival at all?) And unrelated to erza, but in the same arc, Juvia and Lucy fight that creepy heavy metal dude (forgot his name), and after they beat him they press their forheads together and have this very sweet and touching moment. How is that not saffic??? Like??? Ik I might be reading into it too much but all of these little moments give so many gay vibes lol
BRANDISH? DIMARIA? IRENE? Where are my girls?!!!!
1:04:16
Manga readers: Who's gonna tell them?
The dragneels have a thing for blonds
Mom, Mavis and Lucy
Most characters in fairy tail are at least bisexual. Natsu is dragon-sexual
Oh heck yeah!! I love Fairy Tail
yea i call her lasagna, i also call mystigan michigan
Why did you not include Seilah and Kyoka who were literally the most obvious lesbian couple. Also Brandish?
When we first compiled the list, we hadn't reached the Tartaros Arc yet.
@@UnicornofWar oh okayy
Capricorns and Butler you f****** what. I am not having myself be degraded to Butler