One of those moments where you have to realize resurrect is purely a game mechanic and not something just anyone of that class can do. I'm sure Anduin would be capable of it if knew how
@@aaronolson6736 Yeaaaaaa, Its like vice-versa too in the Overwatch cinematics, DVA can fly as long as she wants, Genji can control Hanzo's Dragons, Ashe can have Bob at all times, and Reaper can shoot grenades.
@@MyViolador yeah, but like 20mins before that he said "for azeroth" and he was aslo holding Shalamayne, so i guess Shalamayne is some sort of bad luck
Thrall: "We got rid of Sylvanas!" *crowd cheers* Thrall: "I've returned to the Horde!" *crowd cheers* Thrall: "And I brought you the King of Stormwind as a prisoner!" *crowd cheers* Anduin: "Wait, what?"
We all had to endure that poor written cinematic though. If you dont agree, just look back at other Blizzard's videos - the villains used to be rational and you could sympathize with them. Here only the beautiful shell of good graphics. Lazy, very Lazy. And they copied the entering scene from the last season of gameofthrones
@@ruskyhusky69 very poor written, unoriginal, cliche, sylvanas can apparently block a blow from varok with one hand smiling.. also they way she just flew away was stupid af
See thats the good part is that this keeps on going to reveal her actual plans... Shes always been out for herself. Literally the whole expansion she's been suspicious and now the truth is out. I don't know how you can call this bad writing.
Anduin enters Orgrimmar while helping carry Saurfang: The Valley of Honor is under attack! The Valley of Honor is under attack! The Valley of Honor is under attack! The Valley of Honor is under attack! The Valley of Honor is under attack! The Valley of Honor is under attack! The Valley of Honor is under attack!
I used to camp out there with my Ally rogue waiting for the poor souls who had PvP enabled so I can kill them with my thrown weapon once they had reached 1 hp. No Ragrets xD
@@Red1Green2Blue3 Uh....just like Sylv said??? You mean the same person who said the horde is nothing and you are all tools, then proceeded to fly off? Neah, thats not majorly hypocritical.
@@scorpiowarrior7841 Varian said 'For the Alliance' and was wielding Shalamayne (technically Shalla'tor and Ellemayne) and still died, so its not exclusive to just 'For Azeroth'. It's exclusive to everyone who tried to be a hero.... and to everyone was who wielding Shalamayne and split it lol
Saurfang: "You just keep failing!" Sylvanas: "The Horde is NOTHING!" Forsaken flag bearer: "Bruh." Sylvanas: "Whoops, I just failed again, time to 1-shot this guy and Mary Poppins on out of here."
The dynamic of the Saurfangs and the Wrynns is one of the best things to come from the lore of Warcraft. It shows that perhaps, if all orcs held the honor of Saurfang, and all humans held the honor of Varian and Anduin Wrynn, perhaps both species could truly live in peace together.
Come to think of it, Broxigar died fighting Sargeras, Draenosh died fighting Arthas, it is fitting that Varok dies in the similar manner. Victory or Death, high overlord.
Inquisitor Rob Unfortunately without helm I don’t think he can raise them unless he’s like right there. Also she definitely sent his soul to the Jailer.
Seeing Anduin's face at the end is absolutely heartwrenching. You can just see his heart shattering because he had to watch Saurfang die in front of him and you can almost tell that he's blaming himself, even though Varok said that they knew where their path could lead. The emotion is intense...
This is why Anduin cant lead a war. His peaceful nature and empathy for everyone make him too weak for war. He wants peace, but, to be honest, no one in the Alliance Council does. He is likely to be thrown off the throne if he offers peace once Sylvanas is done.
@@Mediados I don't know a lot about the lore, but didn't Tyrande and Malfurion say that what they wanted is just to get rid of Sylvanas? Like, they wouldn't mind peace once she is dead?
@@Mediados even a peaceful animal can kill when threatened. Do not under estimate him. The alliance always finds a way, and he is still young. He needs discover his fangs. He is a wolf after all
Sylvanas: close your eyes bro. Flag bearer: ok bro. Sylvanas: what do you see? Flag bearer: nothing. Sylvanas: thats horde to me. Flag bearer: bruuuhhhh....
@Michaelle Green She is not Forsaken like other undeads tho. She is a banshee. She was always playing her own game, using Forsakens as her pawns. Forsakens followed her because they were not really given any choice or trust. Until Calia (still alive) came some time later with some hope for them...
"Many lives will be lost..." "Or perhaps just one." He knows he can't win this duel, he knows he is going to die, but he does it anyways to show not only the warriors behind him but also those in front of him what it means to be Horde. What honor means. What it means to be true to ones nature. He may have died, but he revealed Sylvanas for what she is, and made her lose her temper. Now everyone can see. That is what it means to sacrifice for something greater than yourself. Goodbye, Saurfang, you were one of the best.
Dude dont cry please, i can alrdy see the tears. And you are so wrong. Saurfang WAS one of the best before he went into traitor mode. Honor in the horde means obeying your Warchief. It doesnt matter what your warchief asks, you obey. That is their code of honor since Draenor. 1st he betrayed Garrosh. It doesnt matter if Garrosh went full Old god in the end, he still betrayed and rebelled against him and his brothers. Now he disobeyed Sylvanas. During the battle in darkshore she ordered him to execute Malfurion. It doesnt matter if it was honorable or not, his Warchief commanded it and he should have done it. If he actually did Sylvanas would simply invade Darnassus and conquer it because that was her initial plan or well at least the one she marched the horde for. We all know now that she wanted to burn the tree for the Jailer but back then she marched against Darnassus to conquer the only major dock the alliance had in Kalimdor so she can have all the azerite for the Horde. So long story short if Saurfang killed Malfurion Sylvanas would have no obvious reason to burn the tree, she would simply invade and conquer w/o commiting genocide, so your precious Saurfang is responsible for the burning of Teldrassil. Food for thought.
@@graddeos 1. Nice assumptions captain self sure. 2. I've actually defended the burning of Teldrassil many times. It was to put an end to one of their greatets enemies. I am well aware that war is ugly, and results are what matters. That's very different from wanting to kill untold numbers for an otherworldly entity. 3. The way you describe what honor means in the Horde sounds more like the line of the Horde that tried to conquer Azeroth. "Following orders no matter what" was exactly what got them into trouble to begin with. That's not what Thrall asked of anyone. The new Hode was what it was because it was crystal clear that change was needed. And change can happen again.
@@Luxai Theres no new and old horde dude, thats what your not getting. The horde is one. The savage army that came into Azeroth courting War with every other race. The fact that Thrall managed to establish the horde into a homeland changes nothing. As long as there is a Warchief leading it, it means they are at War. If theres no war then theres no need for a Warchief (like end of BFA). But since there is a Warchief, his/hers commands should be followed. And lets be real Sylvanas never gave Saurfang a very controversial order. She ordered him to kill Malfurion so taht their invasion of Darnassus would be easier. She didnt ask him to commit genocide or fire the catapults. His failure of actually killing Malfurion forced Sylvanas to actually halt the invasion and just burn them instead to avoid losing too many troops. You can say that Sylvanas intended to do that all along so that Jailer could get the souls and i would agree, but if Malfurion was dead she wouldnt hesitate with invading cus her losses would be way fewer. Dont forger that we only know part of the story so far. Sylvanas for all her atrocities is still working towards saving Azeroth and herself from the ultimate evil. Working with the Jailer is just a means to an end for her. She doesnt really seek world domination. She just wants to live, and she will do w/e it takes to achieve that. If u did the loyalist part of the questline, she tells you at the end that you will meet again, and when that happens you will understand all of her motives. So i guess blizzard has some redemption arc in store for her. We just have to hope they dont make it super cheesy and lame.
@@graddeos Lmao tell yourself that. Willfully ignore the entite Warcraft storyline of them actively trying to move away from the ideals that lead to the wars. As for Sylvanas, I gave her the benefit of the doubt but there's no excusing her anymore.
@@Luxai The Horde never tried to move away from the ideals that lead to wars. Thrall did but he left the Horde to become the aspect of Earth and gave the horde to a maniac tyrant that restarted a war that Thrall managed to stop. The Horde's ideal was to always follow the warchiefs command. Whether that is war , peace or farming sunflowers on a rainy day is irrelevant to them.
There truly is a moment of sadness when the undead flag bearer hears her words, more so than anywhere else in the cinematic. A simple look says more than even Saurfang death does
She miscalculated. She thought the forsaken would be beholden to each other but she didnt take into account everything the horde built together the battles the forsaken fought with the other races.
Considering how arms warriors have to "Search the Broken Isles for the greatest axe wielding warrior you know" to unlock their artifact sword's axe version (spoiler alert, that fellow is Mr. Saurfang), it might well be he just hasn't bothered with this particular weapon skill before 😅
first of all not 'fans' when we're literally a part of the horde, second anyone in the horde would rather have Saurfang as warchief and thats on period
Flag carrier: *Tink tink* Gatekeeper: Open the gate! Flag carriers: *Tink tink* Gatekeeper: No wait! Close the gate! Flag carriers: *tink tink* Gatekeeper: No wait! Open up the gate again! Flag carriers: *tink tink* Gatekeeper: Make up your mind already! Crowdful of flag carriers: *tink tink* *Gatekeeper has left the server*
I did the Mag'har orc quest-line while brewfest was going on, so when we teleport all the refugees to in front of Orgrimmar it was right in the middle of the party grounds. Just a bunch of people who just had to flee their homes and barely escaped death suddenly standing in the middle of drunken revelry.
The Forsaken looking over at Sylvanas is the most moving moment in the trailer because Forsaken have always been kind of the outcasts in the Horde, never truly being accepted, nor truly desiring to be part of the fold. A lot of power captured in a single, wordless action by a Forsaken flag-bearer. Awesome.
@@gumecindos1fan Great take. I always played forsaken, and loved having her as my leader. But am glad they gave us something to move forward on as forsaken players. To finally get our moment of being Horde and not just following Sylv.
Not sure I'd call it *moving* per-se but more of a look of revelation, because she essentially proved that in her eyes she was already superior to them all. Going far enough to call them a bunch of metal bearing pawns. The act of those forsaken flag bearers stomping the ground is akin to a ritual of either a memorial or an initiation to newly engage in war. For example in the first BFA cinematic you hear horns as the typical way of announcing battle (also usually practiced by Taurens if you go far back to the first WoW trailer actually, they use it alot lol). It just happens to be that they have banners, not horns or instruments that can produce sound organically is all. But, here's a small detail many might have overlooked. Remember when she called them all simply (I'm paraphrasing here again) metal wielding pawns? Well, it happens to be ironic that the scene ends with the clattering of metal as its banners being hammered into the ground, growing deeper in treble & bass as the scene comes to a close, which signifies (from a narrative point of view) a sense of greater overall passion being exercised.
The thing that I don't get is why the forsaken thought that it applied to her. As a forsaken player since vanilla I always thought there was an understanding that the forsaken didn't like the horde and wasn't really loyal to them above their own interests. What sylv said, although an outburst, was completely in character and in line with the forsaken imo.
Patch 8.3 Patch Notes Characters: Forsaken no longer give Honour when killed in PvP New Timewalking Raid: Siege of Orgrimmar Player Vs Player: New Battleground Added: WoW Forums
@@trent0948 same, although I played the game for a very short bit a long time ago (one of my family member had it and let me create a character). Created a Night Elf Hunter, but I only played it for a few hours. Still, I really liked that character. I guess the reason I don't play the game is that you have to pay a monthly subscription, and since I don't have much time to play games unless it's weekend, the balance investments/benefits isn't worth it.
@@almost5198 It's Thrall and Grommash's last change of words after Grom killed Mannoroth. Type in search bar " Warcraft 3 Cinematic - Reign of Chaos Orc Ending" it's the whole fight there.
@@zara6854 Same, but it's good enough to finally see Sylvanas in a moment of desperation and actual vivid anger that isn't pent up, which means she's lost a battle completely.
The funny part is Saurfang is the one that wrote the plan to attack Darkshore in the first place, refuses Sylvanas' order to finish off Malfurion, and *forces* Sylvanas to burn the city to keep the victory. God this writing was dogshit lmfao
Wrath was the first time I played as Horde and got to meet Saurfang. I remember him telling Garrosh about the screams of draenei children being slaughtered tormented him still (from the orcs being slaves to the burning legion), and why no one should go looking for war like Garrosh did. I remember feeling so bad for him in ICC, having to kill his son reanimated as a death knight. Saurfang felt like he failed his wife in keeping his son safe. Watching the old soldier cinematics you really could tell that Saurfang felt like he had failed again. He had lost his family, his honor at teldrassil, and now he had felt like he was losing the Horde. In the end, I had hoped that Saurfang would become warchief and lead the Horde. But he made Thrall and everyone else realize something more important-- that Warchiefs are for times of war. It is time for Azeroth to finally have peace. Before his sacrifice, Saurfang was among friends and brothers in arms. And he knew that in challenging Sylvanas to Mak'gora, he had regained his honor. They all watched as he fought. Mortally wounded, Saurfang smirked at Sylvanas' betrayal. As he called out, "For Azeroth!" while charging into battle one final time, he knew that, finally, he had also reclaimed his Horde. Rest in peace Old Soldier. You more than earned it.
@@GabrielaPerez-tj9sb INDEED HE IS NOT Thats why he wont be strong enough to hold the Alliance together if someone speaks up. He doesnt want to wage war, but every other Alliance member does.
@@redflou2072 They were just wounded? I mean, people on medieval battlefields died for hours. Being cut, even by a sword (in not to a lethal area like the neck) will not kill you instantly. Anduin healed them in a matter of minutes.
Gotta love the smile Saurfang shows at 4:37. Even though he knows he lost the challenge, Sylvanas’ admission reassured him that he won the real fight. Wonderful little detail
Okay first of all I wrote a blog post about how much you claimed to love the horde even shouting for the horde a while ago I mean I need to speak with the manager on this matter*hmph*
Sahacing basically Broxxigar died long before them, so the statement stands but I don‘t think there is any character with a more epic death in warcraft than him stopping the legion alone in front of the portal and forcing Sargeras out and injures him before dying
@@ondrejkomarek1098 yeah but just before beginning the fight, he said "let it be finished", just like his son did when he attacked Arthas in the Wrathgate cinematic
Instead of saying "for the horde" his last words were "for Azeroth" Thank you Overlord for being on our side all these years and helping use defeat the greatest of enemies. Azeroth is in your debt. For honor and glory!
@Sharnie Gujjar As an Alliance player for over 12 years I have to tell you: you bring shame to our faction by spouting that nonsense. There's bad seeds in both factions, an example you just validated with your comments.
I've not really followed the whole thing extensively but I can't remember an actual good warchief for the Horde, well except Thrall maybe, but he then abandoned the whole thing to become a shaman or something lol.
Very cringey all these callbacks. They're practically non stop. They might as well write LICH QUEEN over the video to make sure even the thickest understand
Even if their cinematics are absolutely wonderful, the cinematics lack in good storytelling imo. Which is more the authors and directors fault than the animators, I know. I didn't like how Sylvanas could easily parry the swings of a hulk like creature like it was nothing with her body type. Even though she has magic I can hardly imagine it strengthens your muscles that much and ignores all laws of physics. I didn't like that part.
@@Perial51 You didn't pay much attention to the cinematic if you think it lacks in good storytelling. As for the power that her "magic" gives her, it has never been said how powerful she actually is or how strong her physical form is so we can't really get to the bottom of if she could or couldn't do it, in the cinematic she can so that speaks for itself. As for the laws of physics part, it's a fantasy world so laws of physics don't mean much and again, it's a fantasy world so it doesn't have to make scientific sense.
Visually the movie was of the same quality. Like if you look at everything that wasn't humans it looked just about as good as their cinematics at the time. The problem is that it's a lot harder to make a 2 hour long narrative story good than it is to make an important 5 minute scene good.
Thing is they went live action fly and was limited because of that, and if you actually believe they don't have content to do 2 hours movie, Den you are mistaken
@@goblinpresident4234 27th ???? lol , i've been trying it on my main and 4 alts for 3 years now , none of them got it dude ! you have a long way to go ! and don't get me started on ashes of al'ar !
Warcraft: Here's a brand new cinematic featuring the death of a famous lore character and the betrayal of another lore character Twitter: hehe tink tink flag boy
Thats because they killed off a really good character in favor of showing that Sylvanas is the bad guy even though everyone knew it from the beginning since you don't start an xpac by burning down a capital with innocents in it and still be "the good guy". Sylvanas sucks as a character.
@@emeralddreams3319 It's funny how, in war and chaos, where those who are unwilling to do what is needed, are seen as good. And those willing to make a sacrifice, are seen as bad. Just wanted to point out that she's basically been amassing an army that is undead. And that one threat still remains in the game that is larger than any old god. The Void. They only fear Sylvanas, noone else. Instead of looking at "Good vs Evil". Why not look at the bigger picture? And no. I don't think some video game character is "hot". I go by the lore.
Really small detail I haven't seen mentioned by anyone, that I loved. When Saurfang charges he says "Let it be finished!".... just like his son, when his son charged Arthas. Such a small detail (and Varok wasn't even present) but it just shows how close he and his son were.
She did try go back to her sister at first but they wouldn't accept her all because she dead after defending her homeland while her sister left her to die.
@@mr.kingofphenomenal4629 because of that she must kill everyone in darnassus? burning the tree and attack everyone? no i don't think so ! she could be a good leader for the hord .
@@hanieniknezhad3495 Well she has no emotion anymore. She died and she tried to go back but they wouldn't except her of who she is for defending her homeland and her people. They could at least say thank you to Slyvanas for defending the homeland and making a sacrifice so at least groups of high elves can escape who later becomes blood elves. Slyvanas probably got tired trying go back to her normal life so she gave up and only fight for herself. Maybe she doing it because all she wants to do is die to end the curse she in.
@@KuroSenshi oh trust me they could send you know a lot of money into this and they would more than get it back. It's what they need to do next for the fans is to make a movie!!!
@@MCshadr217 To be fair, the effect looked a bit like one of the air farts from the Dragonball movie, but everyone hates that movie so I was being kind.
She failed to protect Silvermoon, she failed to kill Arthas outside Lordareron's capital, she failed to kill him again as the lich king, she failed to reconnect with her sisters, she failed at Lordaeron (again), she failed in her pact with Ashara. Man no wonder shes so bitter and petty.
@@Praxographist I'd argue Thrall lost his powers cause he started doubting himself and his actions. I'm not even sure if the alternate Draenor's elements are the same as Azeroth's.
That would have been a great dishonor to Saurfang though. He finally got what he wanted to die honorably in battle while also crushing his foe. Unless some how Sylvanas was able to suck his soul out. Which well uh. lol.
Can't believe they busted out a full CGI Cinematic IN GAME. I'd love to see more of this. Even if the writing isn't the best, it's a really good way to deliver crucial story points.
Sorry, but the story is good. the story is very deep. and this is, i think, the problem of many people of the community. They don't understand the deep of this story
Sarufang is a genius. He is saying the right words, to keep the hope in the Horde, and in the same time, lowering Sylvanas's reputation - and he knew, that he would die for this in one minute. Biggest hero of the horde ever. For Saurfang!
in Mak'Gora you can use only one weapon and magic is allowed, but counts as weapon ... Saurfang used 1 axe and 1 sword (2 weapons), she used set of daggers (1 weapon) and magic (2nd weapon) .... he cheated first .... + dont talk about cheating when Green pickle, the biggest cheater in Mak'Gora is standing there...
-A set of daggers is two weapons lol, it’s daggers, not singular dagger -magic isn’t allowed at all regardless of “weapon counts”, it’s a purely physical fight, hence when Guldan used his sorcery to win Mak’Gora over Durotan, he was called a cheater. In addition, Thrall used his elemental prowess to beat Garrosh, and later mentions that the elements have never responded to him the same way. He lost his honor by cheating, and the elements didn’t like that TLDR: Sylvanas had two weapons because a dagger counts as a singular weapon and she had two, and magic is not allowed at all because Mak’Gora is a purely physical fight.
Toxic911 Animations “...there has never been any rule forbidding the use of magic and spells. Moreover, there is a precedent for the use of magic in mak'gora, as both Shagara and Ashra made extensive use of it during their mak'gora. Thrall had also already used magic in the first mak'gora between him and Garrosh, by throwing lightning bolts.” This misconception was because the movie stated that, but the lore didn’t 🤷🏻♂️
@@mayakashiii he really didn't, he barely managed to get a scratch on sylvannas after dividing the sword in two while showing his back to her she only got hit because he hidden that blow (which, lets say, it is a sword fight, he can do that) but sylvanas can stop his full swing with one hand, she literally danced around him and slashed him until he got on his knees and started gloating like, she could just cut his head off easily only thing he won was the suicide he been wanting the whole expansion
@Patte point taken i still think she gotta be orchestrating this somehow, i fail to believe she would make such a slip up, but yeah, she lost the support of the horde
Zennim you aren’t appreciating the message and significance behind it. Yeah he obviously lost the makgora but just as obviously saved countless lives and proved sylvanas was evil
Stareye_ no he didn’t do what you did. He made a mocking comment on how it was ridiculous to think a show created something in a certain way of seeing simply a camera frame head tilt. You on the other hand, flat out just extended it to attack wow’s originality (which was just plain wrong) and flinging insults right off the bat.
Anduin -
this made me laugh irl.
One of those moments where you have to realize resurrect is purely a game mechanic and not something just anyone of that class can do. I'm sure Anduin would be capable of it if knew how
... but two shaman are standing right there
@@bphreezy Yeaaa but Thrall hasnt practiced Shamanry in years, He prolly switched classes by now and Zekhan is too low level for the ability.
@@aaronolson6736 Yeaaaaaa, Its like vice-versa too in the Overwatch cinematics, DVA can fly as long as she wants, Genji can control Hanzo's Dragons, Ashe can have Bob at all times, and Reaper can shoot grenades.
"Sylvanas left the Guild"
it's about time ... lol
I saw this comment on the other video 😂
@@alexnexus83 its on every upload of this video
LMFAO
this is literally a comment that was stolen 10 times today ''you win the internet'' jesus christ people.
I like how this duel takes place in the Horde's most popular dueling spot
Underrated comment
5 hrs later pally dk duel still going
@@daletorrisi4038 ช่อง
Sylvanas be like “gg no re”
This deserves more likes.
Thrall: "Many lives will be lost."
Saurfang: "Or perhaps, just one..."
An absolute hero :'(
F to pay respect
@@RogHaveZeroIQ F
Saurfang tried to save the franchise but Sacrificed himself for nothing RIP BFA and Shadowlands
F
Glorious death.
Despite how things have gone, lore wise, thank god they did right by Saurfang the Honorable
"Let it be finished!" he used his son's final words
Actually, Dranoshs last words were "I am...realesed" , but it's epic that both of them used those words
It was also awesome how he used Varian’s swords and his words “For Azeroth!” as a battle cry.
@@DraxonTehWarrior Yeah but, why anyone who holds Shalamayne and says :"For Azeroth!" dies?
@@ninaaaa014 varian said "for the alliance" not for azeroth before dying
@@MyViolador yeah, but like 20mins before that he said "for azeroth" and he was aslo holding Shalamayne, so i guess Shalamayne is some sort of bad luck
Saurfang's spirit ran all the way back like " I know I died here...who moved my body!"
LMAO
Omg! I lmfao to this
YOOO hahahaha
Best comment ever. 🙏👏
Lmao!!
Zekhan: "What do we do now?"
Thrall: "We bring him home."
Zekhan: *Even more confused* "But... he's already on Azeroth..."
Lol just got that
Ahem... I think you mean Zappy Boi
Hahaha good one
Draenor is his home.
@@brenhawk9199 crappy boi
Thrall: "We got rid of Sylvanas!"
*crowd cheers*
Thrall: "I've returned to the Horde!"
*crowd cheers*
Thrall: "And I brought you the King of Stormwind as a prisoner!"
*crowd cheers*
Anduin: "Wait, what?"
If only. "Honor" or something keeps it from happening
@@Umirua It'd be incredibly disrespectful toward Saurfangs legacy to do that.
@@ExileTwilight also don't forget Thrall is a lot nicer and more honorable than specific Warchiefs who would've done that.
crowd cheers
Oh that would be pro gamer move. Shame that Horde has no teeth once again now.
Saurfang sacrificed his life so we did not have to endure siege of orgrimmar 2.0!
We all had to endure that poor written cinematic though. If you dont agree, just look back at other Blizzard's videos - the villains used to be rational and you could sympathize with them. Here only the beautiful shell of good graphics. Lazy, very Lazy. And they copied the entering scene from the last season of gameofthrones
@@ruskyhusky69 had to get back at got for them copying the lich king cinematic
@@ruskyhusky69 very poor written, unoriginal, cliche, sylvanas can apparently block a blow from varok with one hand smiling.. also they way she just flew away was stupid af
See thats the good part is that this keeps on going to reveal her actual plans... Shes always been out for herself. Literally the whole expansion she's been suspicious and now the truth is out. I don't know how you can call this bad writing.
@@stareye_1062 Banshee's can fly btw.....
Anduin enters Orgrimmar while helping carry Saurfang:
The Valley of Honor is under attack!
The Valley of Honor is under attack!
The Valley of Honor is under attack!
The Valley of Honor is under attack!
The Valley of Honor is under attack!
The Valley of Honor is under attack!
The Valley of Honor is under attack!
Omg 😂😂😂
Valley of Strength* ;)
Watch Gamon charge out of the bar
@@TheRusty I... Gamon... Will save us!
😂😂😂😂
"The Horde is nothing!"
Flag bearer: Bruh
the, what
@@NOOBATRON-bs4jo the person holding the flag
Forsaken have never actually been accepted as "horde"
Who was that body guard next to salvannas ?
"Am i a joke to you?''
Sylvanas: "Why should I accept your challenge?"
Saurfang: "You want to make me suffer."
Sylvanas: "Okay, you got me there."
Sylvanass: Pvp off
Saurfang: you want me to suffee, turn on PvP then
Sylvannas: Ok
"You sonuvabitch I'm in"
When you realize the place where everyone duels outside Orgrimmar is where Sylvanas and Varok duel....
people dueling outside orgrimmar : "I CHALLENGE YOU MAKGORA !"
/duel
Ah yes...trying to get to Org with my level 10, getting a challenge from a level 40ish and Accepting said challenge lol. Them the days.
I used to camp out there with my Ally rogue waiting for the poor souls who had PvP enabled so I can kill them with my thrown weapon once they had reached 1 hp. No Ragrets xD
@@ggsfriend your worse than sylvanis, but not as bad as priests that mind controlled peopel into the lava at molten core
@@daletorrisi4038 oh right, I forgot about these wonderful people...
Not "For the Horde"
But "For Azeroth"
Something special for an old Orc coming from Draenor.
Traitor! Just like Sylv said.
Yeah. But evreyone whoose said "FOR AZEROTH" in a cinimatic has died.....and been weilding shalamane of all things.
@@Red1Green2Blue3 Uh....just like Sylv said??? You mean the same person who said the horde is nothing and you are all tools, then proceeded to fly off? Neah, thats not majorly hypocritical.
@@scorpiowarrior7841 Varian said 'For the Alliance' and was wielding Shalamayne (technically Shalla'tor and Ellemayne) and still died, so its not exclusive to just 'For Azeroth'. It's exclusive to everyone who tried to be a hero.... and to everyone was who wielding Shalamayne and split it lol
@@zepuppet._.master I think he meant that Varian said "For Azeroth!" at the end of the Legion reveal cinematic.
Saurfang: "You just keep failing!"
Sylvanas: "The Horde is NOTHING!"
Forsaken flag bearer: "Bruh."
Sylvanas: "Whoops, I just failed again, time to 1-shot this guy and Mary Poppins on out of here."
lol
😂😂😂😂
She had to pop cooldowns against a warrior his enrage popped and she didn't want it to proc again lol
YOIKES, this comment gives me more brain damage than Activision monitization
Sylvanas dont "Whoops", everything she done, she done it by the plan
My favorite part of this is the implication that the son of the man that allowed him to bury his own son, buried him. RIP Saurfang
The dynamic of the Saurfangs and the Wrynns is one of the best things to come from the lore of Warcraft. It shows that perhaps, if all orcs held the honor of Saurfang, and all humans held the honor of Varian and Anduin Wrynn, perhaps both species could truly live in peace together.
Another small nod, maybe obvious, when Saurfang yells out Let it be finished, just like his son did in The Wrathgate cutscene before he perished.
Come to think of it, Broxigar died fighting Sargeras, Draenosh died fighting Arthas, it is fitting that Varok dies in the similar manner.
Victory or Death, high overlord.
Every one of them fought Evil that was threatening Azeroth at that time
Now he can be with his family.
And his sacrifice has ushered a new hope... One that Thrall almost lost (and almost killed when he put Garrosh in charge lol).
The difference is Varok did not died, he will be teleported to the Nexus lol
Naw man, broxigar died to freaking Sargeras, you can't compare that to Sylvanas :v
1:11 Arthas comes out of the Wrathgate
That was Draenosh Saurfang but dang, like son like father eh...
I thought the same..
I was gonna say the exact same thing it’s a throwback to the wrathgate
I Reddit too.
I was thinking actually the opening cinematic for Diablo 2 Lord of Destruction with Baal coming out lol
BOSS: Sylvanas Windrunner
DROPS : Sylvana's Shoulders (0.5%)
MOUNT : Nathanos Blightcaller ( 3%)
Oh my
wtf :D
I dont want that mount...
Nooo
It's BLIGHTcaller btw not bright. Sounds a bit weird for a forsaken :D
I love the awkward look the flagbearer gives her, like "Wait what?!"
"Sike... Say Sike... Please for the love of Blight, say Sike already!"
"The Horde is Nothing!"
That look from the flagbearer made me laugh out loud. Perfect silent representation of "You done f*cked up."
Kulkum Alstavich Banner bae was all like “I can’t believe you’d say that...”
LIterally what my wife said/thought
he was like please say sike
@@Ravd25 *She
@@KaminariHouse it
Death knights in the ebon hold: *Rubs hands together* "We're getting another one boys!"
Inquisitor Rob Unfortunately without helm I don’t think he can raise them unless he’s like right there. Also she definitely sent his soul to the Jailer.
@@crispygamer987 so... Jailer in jail: *Rubs hands together* "We're getting another one girl!"
"Nazgrim has been kicked out of The Ebon Hold"
"Varok Saurfang has joined The Ebon Hold"
Finally some diversity on that all Human cult 😂
M.C.Martin Official Channel humans>>all
Forsaken holding the banner: "The Horde is wot m8?"
"say sike right now"
Banner Bae, best reaction 2019.
i heard this comment in my head but with british accent
drakondriu pretty sure it was her bleeding
She was like " wtf did you just say"
Seeing Anduin's face at the end is absolutely heartwrenching. You can just see his heart shattering because he had to watch Saurfang die in front of him and you can almost tell that he's blaming himself, even though Varok said that they knew where their path could lead. The emotion is intense...
This is why Anduin cant lead a war. His peaceful nature and empathy for everyone make him too weak for war. He wants peace, but, to be honest, no one in the Alliance Council does. He is likely to be thrown off the throne if he offers peace once Sylvanas is done.
@@Mediados I don't know a lot about the lore, but didn't Tyrande and Malfurion say that what they wanted is just to get rid of Sylvanas? Like, they wouldn't mind peace once she is dead?
@@jeffulloa218 Im not sure if they meant that exactly. Can be, but it wouldnt make much sense, since they are so extremely pissed on the Horde.
@@Mediados read Son of the Wolf comics. Anduin even says that while he had indeed changed his father, Varian had also changed him.
@@Mediados even a peaceful animal can kill when threatened. Do not under estimate him. The alliance always finds a way, and he is still young. He needs discover his fangs. He is a wolf after all
I love the way blizzard put the old ogrimmar song in this cinematic.
Sylvanas: close your eyes bro.
Flag bearer: ok bro.
Sylvanas: what do you see?
Flag bearer: nothing.
Sylvanas: thats horde to me.
Flag bearer: bruuuhhhh....
someone hurt on the inside lmfao...
That was very bruuh
*horde
LMAO
@@Franku- Seriously bruuuh
2017 Sylvanas: For the Horde
2019 Sylvanas: The Horde is nothing!
WOMEN
@@wahabtang7989 lol
= For the nothing !
Interesting thing is, they never explained why Sylvanas going mad.
@Michaelle Green She is not Forsaken like other undeads tho. She is a banshee. She was always playing her own game, using Forsakens as her pawns. Forsakens followed her because they were not really given any choice or trust. Until Calia (still alive) came some time later with some hope for them...
"Many lives will be lost..."
"Or perhaps just one."
He knows he can't win this duel, he knows he is going to die, but he does it anyways to show not only the warriors behind him but also those in front of him what it means to be Horde. What honor means. What it means to be true to ones nature. He may have died, but he revealed Sylvanas for what she is, and made her lose her temper. Now everyone can see. That is what it means to sacrifice for something greater than yourself. Goodbye, Saurfang, you were one of the best.
Dude dont cry please, i can alrdy see the tears. And you are so wrong. Saurfang WAS one of the best before he went into traitor mode. Honor in the horde means obeying your Warchief. It doesnt matter what your warchief asks, you obey. That is their code of honor since Draenor. 1st he betrayed Garrosh. It doesnt matter if Garrosh went full Old god in the end, he still betrayed and rebelled against him and his brothers. Now he disobeyed Sylvanas. During the battle in darkshore she ordered him to execute Malfurion. It doesnt matter if it was honorable or not, his Warchief commanded it and he should have done it. If he actually did Sylvanas would simply invade Darnassus and conquer it because that was her initial plan or well at least the one she marched the horde for. We all know now that she wanted to burn the tree for the Jailer but back then she marched against Darnassus to conquer the only major dock the alliance had in Kalimdor so she can have all the azerite for the Horde.
So long story short if Saurfang killed Malfurion Sylvanas would have no obvious reason to burn the tree, she would simply invade and conquer w/o commiting genocide, so your precious Saurfang is responsible for the burning of Teldrassil. Food for thought.
@@graddeos
1. Nice assumptions captain self sure.
2. I've actually defended the burning of Teldrassil many times. It was to put an end to one of their greatets enemies. I am well aware that war is ugly, and results are what matters. That's very different from wanting to kill untold numbers for an otherworldly entity.
3. The way you describe what honor means in the Horde sounds more like the line of the Horde that tried to conquer Azeroth.
"Following orders no matter what" was exactly what got them into trouble to begin with. That's not what Thrall asked of anyone. The new Hode was what it was because it was crystal clear that change was needed. And change can happen again.
@@Luxai Theres no new and old horde dude, thats what your not getting. The horde is one. The savage army that came into Azeroth courting War with every other race. The fact that Thrall managed to establish the horde into a homeland changes nothing. As long as there is a Warchief leading it, it means they are at War. If theres no war then theres no need for a Warchief (like end of BFA). But since there is a Warchief, his/hers commands should be followed. And lets be real Sylvanas never gave Saurfang a very controversial order. She ordered him to kill Malfurion so taht their invasion of Darnassus would be easier. She didnt ask him to commit genocide or fire the catapults. His failure of actually killing Malfurion forced Sylvanas to actually halt the invasion and just burn them instead to avoid losing too many troops. You can say that Sylvanas intended to do that all along so that Jailer could get the souls and i would agree, but if Malfurion was dead she wouldnt hesitate with invading cus her losses would be way fewer. Dont forger that we only know part of the story so far. Sylvanas for all her atrocities is still working towards saving Azeroth and herself from the ultimate evil. Working with the Jailer is just a means to an end for her. She doesnt really seek world domination. She just wants to live, and she will do w/e it takes to achieve that. If u did the loyalist part of the questline, she tells you at the end that you will meet again, and when that happens you will understand all of her motives. So i guess blizzard has some redemption arc in store for her. We just have to hope they dont make it super cheesy and lame.
@@graddeos Lmao tell yourself that. Willfully ignore the entite Warcraft storyline of them actively trying to move away from the ideals that lead to the wars. As for Sylvanas, I gave her the benefit of the doubt but there's no excusing her anymore.
@@Luxai The Horde never tried to move away from the ideals that lead to wars. Thrall did but he left the Horde to become the aspect of Earth and gave the horde to a maniac tyrant that restarted a war that Thrall managed to stop. The Horde's ideal was to always follow the warchiefs command. Whether that is war , peace or farming sunflowers on a rainy day is irrelevant to them.
Sylvanas face animation is gorgeous.
Fap weeb detected
so bloody ugly, no?
Source? Link? For research purposes ofcourse. :)
her mouth is very very very weird though.
Lol , she's a real person :)))))))))) she's a cosplayer :) not an animated character :))) not sure for anduin and orcs but sylvanas is a irl person
Sylvanas: dont worry guys, i have a plan.
"Slyvanas has left the game"
Very similar to Durotan exposing Gul’dan in the movie. At least he has earned his honorable death, and finally returned to his home.
But the Durotan fight was less cringe.
At least the movie's villain Guldan was rational and you could understand the reasons behind his actions
@@Newovar exactly my point
First thought to me too..!
The exact same thing I thought.
There truly is a moment of sadness when the undead flag bearer hears her words, more so than anywhere else in the cinematic. A simple look says more than even Saurfang death does
It's a look and slow turn that says "But the Horde saved us..."
The disbelief reaction was so spot on. Well animated
It’s a “Who are you??” look of betrayal
She miscalculated. She thought the forsaken would be beholden to each other but she didnt take into account everything the horde built together the battles the forsaken fought with the other races.
When Varok did more dps than The Lich King...
,,new'' Lich King suck ;/
Bro Bolvar is only lvl 80 :D
i kinda liked Bolvar's animation in cinematic, movements and all.
@Pattarapol P even the lich king cant compete with the powers of his boss
Of course he did.
Remember guys, when you scream "for azeroth" you die.
I just did and I'm still alive. I'd like to refund.
Just ask Varian, he’ll tell you
That's the why I always scream Leroy Jenkins
SMBComix oh yeah you’re right, I was thinking about the legion cinematic trailer with Varian and Sylvannas arriving at the broken shore.
FOR AZER-
saurfang: *whispers anduin*
anduin: cant bro opposite factions
anduin would read KEK
Saurfang: Sword skill increased to 2.
Dodge
Parry
Parry
Parry
Dodge
Dodge
Dodge
2
Dodge
Sofie424 200*
Laughing tears from this comment 😂
Considering how arms warriors have to "Search the Broken Isles for the greatest axe wielding warrior you know" to unlock their artifact sword's axe version (spoiler alert, that fellow is Mr. Saurfang), it might well be he just hasn't bothered with this particular weapon skill before 😅
"What do we do now?"
"Loot the corpse, I'm going to Need roll the axe."
anyone else notice the axe just kinda vanishes?
He dropped it when he fell to his knees...
@@unlockdaniel /roll 100/100
@@unlockdaniel and strangely it wasnt on the floor, just a minor thing
Can you even do that in retail anymore?
If Sylvanas is a Banshee, can't we just use a vacuum cleaner when she goes into travel form?
Dam! bruh...you Evil...
Mr. MiGGymaus xD that’s actually a good idea
Some call Luigi!
@@Doomroar Didn't expect that one :D
Nah just steal a fuel rod cannon from a grunt and give it to Arbiter, he'll take her down.
Sylvanas: The Horde is nothing!
Horde fans: *Surprise Pikachu face*
@@KassiopeaMillenia yes,leave you betrayer
@@KassiopeaMillenia I am looking for that as well, i wanted a quest to kill that traitor of varok
@@KassiopeaMillenia simp
first of all not 'fans' when we're literally a part of the horde, second anyone in the horde would rather have Saurfang as warchief and thats on period
I have a dream of Blizzard making a full length movie by their own studio
If they make a movie about the story of Arthas I'm sure it will get Oscars and a huge success, something never seen since Lotr
@@Luna-uy4jj Their animations are good because they are 5 mins max. Making a full length movie will cost a lot of money and time.
This comment comes up a lot and ppl have no clue how much CGI costs
@@imbazed22 they can use motion capture
@@alessiofe oh yeah i forgot, my bad lol
Flag carrier: *Tink tink*
Gatekeeper: Open the gate!
Flag carriers: *Tink tink*
Gatekeeper: No wait! Close the gate!
Flag carriers: *tink tink*
Gatekeeper: No wait! Open up the gate again!
Flag carriers: *tink tink*
Gatekeeper: Make up your mind already!
Crowdful of flag carriers: *tink tink*
*Gatekeeper has left the server*
This ain't the joking matter now buddy
😂😂😂😂
best comment
Dead lmao
Haha I'm crying
I like to imagine that this happens while Brewfest is still happening just west of the gate and they all see this during the festivities.
"Is that..... Anduin?"
I just had a beer of my life and I don't know if I am so drunk and seeing things but I thought I saw Anduin outside of Orgrimmar can you believe haha
I did the Mag'har orc quest-line while brewfest was going on, so when we teleport all the refugees to in front of Orgrimmar it was right in the middle of the party grounds. Just a bunch of people who just had to flee their homes and barely escaped death suddenly standing in the middle of drunken revelry.
Saurfang is the first to land a scar on Sylvanas, since Arthas
What about Godfrey?
@@edwinortiz1262 to be fair, he shot her and she didn't even notice it, it wasn't really a fight
what about Nathanos? c;
@@Parsifal308 what kind of scar? XD
Saurfang: scar on Sylvannas
Broxxigar: scar on Sargeras
The Forsaken looking over at Sylvanas is the most moving moment in the trailer because Forsaken have always been kind of the outcasts in the Horde, never truly being accepted, nor truly desiring to be part of the fold. A lot of power captured in a single, wordless action by a Forsaken flag-bearer. Awesome.
Id say that it was at that moment that the Forsaken Truly joined The Horde.
@@gumecindos1fan Great take. I always played forsaken, and loved having her as my leader. But am glad they gave us something to move forward on as forsaken players. To finally get our moment of being Horde and not just following Sylv.
Not sure I'd call it *moving* per-se but more of a look of revelation, because she essentially proved that in her eyes she was already superior to them all. Going far enough to call them a bunch of metal bearing pawns. The act of those forsaken flag bearers stomping the ground is akin to a ritual of either a memorial or an initiation to newly engage in war. For example in the first BFA cinematic you hear horns as the typical way of announcing battle (also usually practiced by Taurens if you go far back to the first WoW trailer actually, they use it alot lol). It just happens to be that they have banners, not horns or instruments that can produce sound organically is all. But, here's a small detail many might have overlooked. Remember when she called them all simply (I'm paraphrasing here again) metal wielding pawns? Well, it happens to be ironic that the scene ends with the clattering of metal as its banners being hammered into the ground, growing deeper in treble & bass as the scene comes to a close, which signifies (from a narrative point of view) a sense of greater overall passion being exercised.
The thing that I don't get is why the forsaken thought that it applied to her. As a forsaken player since vanilla I always thought there was an understanding that the forsaken didn't like the horde and wasn't really loyal to them above their own interests.
What sylv said, although an outburst, was completely in character and in line with the forsaken imo.
I guess you look too deep into it
Patch 8.3 Patch Notes
Characters: Forsaken no longer give Honour when killed in PvP
New Timewalking Raid: Siege of Orgrimmar
Player Vs Player: New Battleground Added: WoW Forums
Why Forums when you got RUclips? I say it here: the writing is awful. AND they copied it from Game of Thrones
@@ruskyhusky69 You again with that GOT bullshit, dude, stop it
@@ruskyhusky69 Imagine thinking Game of Thrones came up with any of the tropes in that show.
@@ruskyhusky69 You mean the scene from the lich king trailer which appears years later in one of the GOT episodes in the exact same way? :P
@@chin_chiller no i mean THIS trailer copies the scene from episode 5 season 8. they look alike like twins
The game, I no longer play
The cinematic, I watch everyday
Lazy Long
The game: I’ve never played
The cinematic: I watch every time
I guess tbf, I do play hearthstone tho, just never touched WoW
@@trent0948 same, although I played the game for a very short bit a long time ago (one of my family member had it and let me create a character). Created a Night Elf Hunter, but I only played it for a few hours. Still, I really liked that character.
I guess the reason I don't play the game is that you have to pay a monthly subscription, and since I don't have much time to play games unless it's weekend, the balance investments/benefits isn't worth it.
10/10 cinematic /../
Deep
"The Horde is nothing!"
BREAKING NEWS: GARROSH HELLSCREAM RISES FROM THE GRAVE, KILLS WARCHIEF SYLVANAS "NOBODY DISRESPECTS MY HORDE" HE SAYS
Considering Shadowlands, it has a chance to happen
this aged well! garrosh is back
@@dhairyashildeshpande9808 aaaaaaand he's gone.
UNDERRATED COMMENT XD
That...would have been epic!
"The banshee's fire has burned out in the Horde's veins. I have... freed...myself."
"No, old friend... You freed us all."
REEEEEEE
Man why you do this.Why you have to give me chills?
i member this.
Why did u change the words tho? Am I missing something? Ive only played reign of chaos and frozenthrine
@@almost5198 It's Thrall and Grommash's last change of words after Grom killed Mannoroth. Type in search bar " Warcraft 3 Cinematic - Reign of Chaos Orc Ending" it's the whole fight there.
Sylvanas: "The Horde is nothing!!!"
Forsaken flag bearer: "Am i a joke to you?!"
She has been dubbed Tink Tink (or Banner-Bae).
Lol I was thinking....well that hurt
I would have liked to see them all drop her banner.
"I'm standing right here, sir" - Willie
@@zara6854 Same, but it's good enough to finally see Sylvanas in a moment of desperation and actual vivid anger that isn't pent up, which means she's lost a battle completely.
5:52 when you see a customer come in 5 minutes before closing time
In a Starbucks store?! That's totally me facing the customers at closing time lmao
Haha!! Good one!
Underrated comment of the video coming from retail life.
Genuinely laughed at this
I 100% know how that feels
Delaryn "You can't kill hope."
Sylvanss "Can't I?"
*One eternity later*
Saurfang "You cannot kill hope."
Sylvanas "REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!"
😂😂👍 you made my day
Sylvanas windrunner is bad now? She was my favourite! And i loved saurfang too, and hes dead now?! This video killed me..
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
@@МаксимЖуков-я2н you are right about that you know the return of the lich king was the last thing I was excited for
Never again
The funny part is Saurfang is the one that wrote the plan to attack Darkshore in the first place, refuses Sylvanas' order to finish off Malfurion, and *forces* Sylvanas to burn the city to keep the victory.
God this writing was dogshit lmfao
Wrath was the first time I played as Horde and got to meet Saurfang. I remember him telling Garrosh about the screams of draenei children being slaughtered tormented him still (from the orcs being slaves to the burning legion), and why no one should go looking for war like Garrosh did. I remember feeling so bad for him in ICC, having to kill his son reanimated as a death knight. Saurfang felt like he failed his wife in keeping his son safe. Watching the old soldier cinematics you really could tell that Saurfang felt like he had failed again.
He had lost his family, his honor at teldrassil, and now he had felt like he was losing the Horde. In the end, I had hoped that Saurfang would become warchief and lead the Horde. But he made Thrall and everyone else realize something more important-- that Warchiefs are for times of war. It is time for Azeroth to finally have peace. Before his sacrifice, Saurfang was among friends and brothers in arms. And he knew that in challenging Sylvanas to Mak'gora, he had regained his honor.
They all watched as he fought. Mortally wounded, Saurfang smirked at Sylvanas' betrayal. As he called out, "For Azeroth!" while charging into battle one final time, he knew that, finally, he had also reclaimed his Horde.
Rest in peace Old Soldier. You more than earned it.
You made me cry wtf :’) thanks
@@Mediados
ANDUIN
IS
NOT
VARIAN
@@GabrielaPerez-tj9sb
INDEED
HE IS
NOT
Thats why he wont be strong enough to hold the Alliance together if someone speaks up. He doesnt want to wage war, but every other Alliance member does.
@@jinxiko *Tyrion and oberyn
Absolutely.. well said brother.
Thrall: "We...bring him home"
whole server: *Start mass smithing*
I don't get it plz explain
@@kacperarab4078 i think smithing = the ding ding sound of those flags
@@kacperarab4078 The sound of them clanking the banner in the ground is the same sound used for blacksmithing in game
Oh, right. Thanks.
Azjaqir if you mean a very off-key version of it, I’ll agree with you
Ummmm there is a priest & a shaman standing right there...
In the lore, ressurection is near impossible. The is no easy way outside of making the given person an undead or tainting him with fel.
@@Pelagion98 what about the battle for azeroth cinematic where anduin resurrects like his whole army?
shhhh
Don't try breaking the plot anti-armor...
@@redflou2072 i think they were wounded.....nothing else will be spoken in this issue........
@@redflou2072 They were just wounded? I mean, people on medieval battlefields died for hours. Being cut, even by a sword (in not to a lethal area like the neck) will not kill you instantly. Anduin healed them in a matter of minutes.
Sylvanas: The Horde is nothing!
The Horde: Everyone disliked that.
The Horde will remember that.
The animation on the standard-bearer was next level, no words uttered but so much expression
Next patch spoiled: "Wrath of sylvanas"
I wouldn’t even be surprised 😂
Wrath of the Banshee Queen
ItzAmir “Wrath of the Lich Queen”
Yeah all of them :L
And then
"Bolvar has joined the chat"
Gotta love the smile Saurfang shows at 4:37. Even though he knows he lost the challenge, Sylvanas’ admission reassured him that he won the real fight. Wonderful little detail
Exactly my thoughts. He was going to die, but he won
he didnt lose, she killed him with magic and that is against the rules of Mak'gora
@Jun Souljah Drink, Hellscream. Claim...your Destiny.
@@Ledwow Is it tho? Thrall did the same to Garrosh~
Jesi Oni and that’s why thrall lost touch with the elements, from his guilt of cheating
"The Horde is nothing !"
Flag dude: Okay first of all, ow
Okay first of all I wrote a blog post about how much you claimed to love the horde even shouting for the horde a while ago I mean I need to speak with the manager on this matter*hmph*
@Kaboom Baby alwyas thought "dude" is gender netural
@@komarik73 indeed it is
@Kaboom Baby Language evolves over time, my dude.
@Kaboom Baby In "flag dude" we're using the more chill/lax definition of dude, wherein all nameless humans are included (more so tomboys, admittedly)
Varok Saurfang just earned the achievement,
"Greatest Horde death since Grom Hellscream."
What about Broxxigar the Red ?
afaik the only time-traveler orc who manage "struck" the Fallen Titan, Sargeras
Did they not revive Grammash? I don't play WoW, but I follow the plot, and am super confused.
Yevhenii Shyshko We went back in time to where Grommash was still alive. He’s dead now, in both timelines.
Sahacing basically Broxxigar died long before them, so the statement stands
but I don‘t think there is any character with a more epic death in warcraft than him
stopping the legion alone in front of the portal and forcing Sargeras out and injures him before dying
@Benjamin Schaetzle when did medivh lose? he is still fighting "against the enemy bigger than the legion", who or whatever that enemy is^^
"Let it be finished"
The same last words as from his son against Arthas
That is so true
But his last words were for azeroth ..
@@ondrejkomarek1098 yeah but just before beginning the fight, he said "let it be finished", just like his son did when he attacked Arthas in the Wrathgate cinematic
Instead of saying "for the horde" his last words were "for Azeroth"
Thank you Overlord for being on our side all these years and helping use defeat the greatest of enemies. Azeroth is in your debt. For honor and glory!
The planet is worth saving. We just have to stand together to make it happen. No matter how hard it may be.
@Sharnie Gujjar filthy dogs? Did you just started playing wow or what? If not then Who hurt you?
@Sharnie Gujjar No, only the horde that support Sylvanas are filth. The rest are fine.
@Sharnie Gujjar As an Alliance player for over 12 years I have to tell you: you bring shame to our faction by spouting that nonsense. There's bad seeds in both factions, an example you just validated with your comments.
@@laughedrite5986 got em
Voljin must be rolling in his grave when Sylvanas said the Horde is nothing.
I don't get this part. Can you explain? Thanks.
@@Chemicalkinetics Voljin made Sylvanas warchief on his deathbed
@@HugoAcapella Sorry. I get this part, but I guess I don't understand why it is a big surprise that Sylvanas always has her own agenda.
Vol'jin was as useless at being a Warchief on his death as he was when alive
I've not really followed the whole thing extensively but I can't remember an actual good warchief for the Horde, well except Thrall maybe, but he then abandoned the whole thing to become a shaman or something lol.
You know you are honored when a King carries your body home.
It remind me of the Wrath Gate.
« Let it be finished »
The same sentence his son said to Arthas.
Lich Queen indeed.
She became very thing she swore to destroy. :)
@@ninaaaa014 Can't beat em join em
Very cringey all these callbacks. They're practically non stop. They might as well write LICH QUEEN over the video to make sure even the thickest understand
dip.C yyeah i agree, next expansion she is totally becoming the lich queen
She's a verry downgraded bargain version of arthas. She will never come close. Blizz ruined her
Trying to do BfA raidboss with lvl 60 Warrior from Classic.
Lol if this expansion was just a meta joke on bfa vs classic.
FYI, Make a 90 mins movie using this cinematic engine will make you more money than BFA.
Even if their cinematics are absolutely wonderful, the cinematics lack in good storytelling imo. Which is more the authors and directors fault than the animators, I know. I didn't like how Sylvanas could easily parry the swings of a hulk like creature like it was nothing with her body type. Even though she has magic I can hardly imagine it strengthens your muscles that much and ignores all laws of physics. I didn't like that part.
@@Perial51 You didn't pay much attention to the cinematic if you think it lacks in good storytelling. As for the power that her "magic" gives her, it has never been said how powerful she actually is or how strong her physical form is so we can't really get to the bottom of if she could or couldn't do it, in the cinematic she can so that speaks for itself. As for the laws of physics part, it's a fantasy world so laws of physics don't mean much and again, it's a fantasy world so it doesn't have to make scientific sense.
Not if they stick with their current writers
No it wouldn't. They already did one and it gave them losses.
@@Talematros Yes, I too find orcs to be real, also flying dragons and all those other mounts - those are not fantasies they are real life creatures!
When a hunter goes full melee and stacks parry chance
lel..with full coruption haste and spell power
Good O'l days.
Naw because then when the warrior actually hits you it hurts. Syl didn't hurt that much
Please just make actual CGI WoW movies already.
Visually the movie was of the same quality. Like if you look at everything that wasn't humans it looked just about as good as their cinematics at the time. The problem is that it's a lot harder to make a 2 hour long narrative story good than it is to make an important 5 minute scene good.
Thing is they went live action fly and was limited because of that, and if you actually believe they don't have content to do 2 hours movie, Den you are mistaken
Nobody could pay the price for it. Its way too expensiv for a movie...
@@letrobstrobs6523 i would legit pay up to 30euros to see it.
@@Murzac well first develop the story ofc and then start the animation to it duh
5:20
When the raid boss DIDN'T drop the loot you wanted.
when you didn't get Invincible's reins for the 27th time
LMAO underrated comment tight here y'all
-What.. do we do now?
-We wait till next week...
@@goblinpresident4234 27th ???? lol , i've been trying it on my main and 4 alts for 3 years now , none of them got it dude ! you have a long way to go !
and don't get me started on ashes of al'ar !
3 years on 4 alts? Try 6 years on 2 alts for Invincible. I had him FINALLy drop in February of this year, tears of victory were shed.
Warcraft: Here's a brand new cinematic featuring the death of a famous lore character and the betrayal of another lore character
Twitter: hehe tink tink flag boy
Thats because they killed off a really good character in favor of showing that Sylvanas is the bad guy even though everyone knew it from the beginning since you don't start an xpac by burning down a capital with innocents in it and still be "the good guy". Sylvanas sucks as a character.
@@emeralddreams3319 i agree. Sylvanas was a good character once.. Blizzard just needed a bad guy
@@emeralddreams3319 I think Sylvanas is a great character with questionable framing around her. If nothing else, she's a great Shakespearean tragedy.
@@emeralddreams3319 It's funny how, in war and chaos, where those who are unwilling to do what is needed, are seen as good. And those willing to make a sacrifice, are seen as bad.
Just wanted to point out that she's basically been amassing an army that is undead. And that one threat still remains in the game that is larger than any old god. The Void. They only fear Sylvanas, noone else. Instead of looking at "Good vs Evil". Why not look at the bigger picture? And no. I don't think some video game character is "hot". I go by the lore.
@@ewu1237 you mean when she was still 'alive', because he has been going on a path of revenge after her death.
Really small detail I haven't seen mentioned by anyone, that I loved. When Saurfang charges he says "Let it be finished!".... just like his son, when his son charged Arthas. Such a small detail (and Varok wasn't even present) but it just shows how close he and his son were.
that bit made me sad
"The Horde is nothing!"
Anduin invites you to join the guild: Alliance.
AHAHAHAH
lol
She did try go back to her sister at first but they wouldn't accept her all because she dead after defending her homeland while her sister left her to die.
@@mr.kingofphenomenal4629 because of that she must kill everyone in darnassus? burning the tree and attack everyone? no i don't think so ! she could be a good leader for the hord .
@@hanieniknezhad3495 Well she has no emotion anymore. She died and she tried to go back but they wouldn't except her of who she is for defending her homeland and her people. They could at least say thank you to Slyvanas for defending the homeland and making a sacrifice so at least groups of high elves can escape who later becomes blood elves. Slyvanas probably got tired trying go back to her normal life so she gave up and only fight for herself. Maybe she doing it because all she wants to do is die to end the curse she in.
“Blizzard please make your own movie!”
Literally every Warcraft fan since 2008
No one understand budget costs.
@@KuroSenshi they will earn that money anyway they can just make deal with pixar or disney
@@KuroSenshi oh trust me they could send you know a lot of money into this and they would more than get it back. It's what they need to do next for the fans is to make a movie!!!
they did and it was pretty mediocre.
@@kloepel it was live-action movie not fully CGI
Saurfang: ''For Azero.."
Sylvanas: ''AVADA KEDAVRA !!!! ''
Ka..me....ha....me.....HAAAA!!!
HADOKEN!
It's ruined. The joke was good, great even. But you two ruined it.
@@MCshadr217 To be fair, the effect looked a bit like one of the air farts from the Dragonball movie, but everyone hates that movie so I was being kind.
hahaha that was epic XD
"You. Just. Keep. Failing!"
Math teacher for his students.
I loved it when he said it. It just felt so powerful for him to say that to her. It's a pity he died but at least he died a true hero.
It's good to know that that line still echos in Sylvanas's mind during the events starting Shadowlands.
She failed to protect Silvermoon, she failed to kill Arthas outside Lordareron's capital, she failed to kill him again as the lich king, she failed to reconnect with her sisters, she failed at Lordaeron (again), she failed in her pact with Ashara.
Man no wonder shes so bitter and petty.
@@MrNombik rename her Failvanas
*Zekhan's Quotes:*
*- What are you doing?*
*- So,what are we doing?*
*- What do we do now?*
I dont think he knows what hes doing ^^
You know nothing Jon Snow!
Saurfang won the speedrun of whoever dies first when shouting for Azeroth at .50 seconds, beating Varian by hours.
varian yelled for the alliance
@@meh5759 He yelled "For Azeroth" when he came out of the ocean in the opening cinematic, right when he split Shalamayne.
@@Taenlyn right I remember now
lmao
Thrall:
Dude you shouldn't challenge Mak'gora against a spellcaster. In past someone tried it and get rekt.
All I did.. I did.. FOR THE HORDE!
Yeah but Thrall lost his powers because he used them in makgora. You’re not supposed to.
@@Praxographist I'd argue Thrall lost his powers cause he started doubting himself and his actions. I'm not even sure if the alternate Draenor's elements are the same as Azeroth's.
@@yorozuya8027 probably that too, also for cheating in makgora.
@Cerus98 and even if it was Sylv powers aren't granted by elementals so she's good.
Sylv: the Horde is NOTHING!!!
Flag holder: say what???
Sylv: whatcha gonna do?
Flag holder: nothing...
Well, she's right
"Sylvanas then retreated to the southern icy region of Southrend." WRATH OF THE BANSHEE QUEEN expansion confirmed.
Stop toying with my emotions.
WOTBQ
She actually went to windrunner tower.
Honestly the only way to redeem this whole arc in my eyes
Wrath of the Lich Kween
Inside Sylvanas' head: "all that for a drop of blood"
This deserves more likes
Sylvanas: you....you should have gone for the _head._
saurfang: but I did tho-
**KAMEHAMEHA**
But he did got into her mind.
"You have my respect Saurfang. When I'm done with you, half of Azeroth will still be alive. I hope they remember you"
Anduin: We're in the endgame now.
Thrall: (Looks at Anduin) Battle REZ!?!
Anduin: 2 minutes left, Sorry Bro.
That would have been a great dishonor to Saurfang though. He finally got what he wanted to die honorably in battle while also crushing his foe. Unless some how Sylvanas was able to suck his soul out. Which well uh. lol.
Combat bug ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Invalid target
"Opposing faction."
3:14 Sylvanas' facial expression here is so unbelievably great...
Can't believe they busted out a full CGI Cinematic IN GAME. I'd love to see more of this. Even if the writing isn't the best, it's a really good way to deliver crucial story points.
I hope this becomes a thing for every expansion onward for major story points.
"Even if the writing isn't the best" I would rather have them do good writing in their cinematics. That is why people used to love them
Sorry, but the story is good. the story is very deep. and this is, i think, the problem of many people of the community. They don't understand the deep of this story
You said it!
We have like 5 for this expac which is insane. Very welcomed tho.
Saurfang: died
Thrall: Now this looks like a job for me So everybody just follow me
i can literally hear eminem
cause we need a little controversay cause it feels so empty without me
Well they have a council in the Horde so there isn't really one leader
"[Thrall] has been promoted to guild leader."
If only it was true...
Sarufang is a genius. He is saying the right words, to keep the hope in the Horde, and in the same time, lowering Sylvanas's reputation - and he knew, that he would die for this in one minute. Biggest hero of the horde ever.
For Saurfang!
Ah, and when Sarufang torns apart Anduin's Blade, is epicness, lvl 9000+
to see that smirk turn into a frown, when saurfang lists all of her failures. such a sweet taste
And his look when she said the horde was nothing was just as great, almost like a "gotcha now" look
He knew exactly what to say to expose her.
It would've been sweeter if he said that she failed the moment Arthas reached Quel'Thalas
@@waluwigii ok chill satan
@Valkenstein Now THAT would've struck a chord
Zekhan: "What do we do now?"
Thrall: "Ress and re-do"
Yeah but gotta wait a week for the reset tho.
"omg Varok pulled again, wipe!"
"Give him Fort, a healthstone and a shadow resist potion."
Run for corpse
He needs a Ress
Saurfang: So when we do Mak’Gora, it’s just physical fighting and no magic or that’s cheating, right?
Thrall and Durotan: Well yes, but actually no
in Mak'Gora you can use only one weapon and magic is allowed, but counts as weapon ... Saurfang used 1 axe and 1 sword (2 weapons), she used set of daggers (1 weapon) and magic (2nd weapon) .... he cheated first .... + dont talk about cheating when Green pickle, the biggest cheater in Mak'Gora is standing there...
-A set of daggers is two weapons lol, it’s daggers, not singular dagger
-magic isn’t allowed at all regardless of “weapon counts”, it’s a purely physical fight, hence when Guldan used his sorcery to win Mak’Gora over Durotan, he was called a cheater. In addition, Thrall used his elemental prowess to beat Garrosh, and later mentions that the elements have never responded to him the same way. He lost his honor by cheating, and the elements didn’t like that
TLDR: Sylvanas had two weapons because a dagger counts as a singular weapon and she had two, and magic is not allowed at all because Mak’Gora is a purely physical fight.
Toxic911 Animations “...there has never been any rule forbidding the use of magic and spells. Moreover, there is a precedent for the use of magic in mak'gora, as both Shagara and Ashra made extensive use of it during their mak'gora. Thrall had also already used magic in the first mak'gora between him and Garrosh, by throwing lightning bolts.”
This misconception was because the movie stated that, but the lore didn’t 🤷🏻♂️
Ah I see, thanks for the clarification!
the rules of Mak'gora is: there are no rules. So if neither opponent forbids magic, then magic is allowed.
In front of the gates of Orgrimmar? Yep, that’s where we all have our 1v1 duels.
Witness me!
"You are all nothing"
"Nothing lasts"
Ayy, knew we were gon' last, then.
I like how Thrall encourage him: "you can not win"
he won though
@@mayakashiii he really didn't, he barely managed to get a scratch on sylvannas after dividing the sword in two while showing his back to her
she only got hit because he hidden that blow (which, lets say, it is a sword fight, he can do that)
but sylvanas can stop his full swing with one hand, she literally danced around him and slashed him until he got on his knees and started gloating
like, she could just cut his head off easily
only thing he won was the suicide he been wanting the whole expansion
@Patte point taken
i still think she gotta be orchestrating this somehow, i fail to believe she would make such a slip up, but yeah, she lost the support of the horde
Zennim you aren’t appreciating the message and significance behind it. Yeah he obviously lost the makgora but just as obviously saved countless lives and proved sylvanas was evil
@@zennim125 Saurfang basically won smh
The classic "Duel outside Orgrimmar"
ah, the memories xD
Awesome
Lvl 60 vs lvl 10 for sure.
Was expecting some pre-duel buffing to happen from Anduin, maybe pop a HoT or Shield, you know.
He lost because he was dual wielding with a 19% miss chance.
Sylvanas: ''The Horde is nothing!''
Flag boi: ''So what happened to For The Horde???''
Sylvanas: *YEEEEEET*
And that's what happens when you do a cinematic without thinking the plot first haha
Old Gods promised so much more
Metzen retired. That happened.
Boy? Wtf is wrong with you?
It was a woman but okay lol
“Let it be finished” that hit me hard.
Same, like father like son.
@Naveen KV his son says it before fighting lich king
4:16 That side-eye though
@@ruskyhusky69 Imagine thinking that Game of Thrones invented looking at someone in a certain way
@@zedoplantao imagine thinking wow is original in every way possible
@@stareye_1062 Imagine taking something someone said and twisting it to try and make fun of them.
Stareye_ no he didn’t do what you did. He made a mocking comment on how it was ridiculous to think a show created something in a certain way of seeing simply a camera frame head tilt.
You on the other hand, flat out just extended it to attack wow’s originality (which was just plain wrong) and flinging insults right off the bat.
@@Gadget-Walkmen no he did, get a life bro ur sad /ignore
- What do we do now?
- What do you mean? Now we can finally play the game!
I was just thinking this exact quote right when I was finished with the war campaign XD
4:15 That flag holder was like "danm homie. Thought we was tight" XD
when your mate snitch to the teacher.
i laughed way too much at this.