SuperCarlinBrothers have you ever been introduced to “the game”. As soon as you know about the game you are in the game and you play it for your intire life and as soon as you think of the game you loose the game. When you loose the game you have to announce to the room saying “I just lost the game”. Have fun
It took me two weeks to read the entire series in second grade and I'm just glad I didn't have to wait for them to come out one at a time 😂 18 now and I still very much care
me: sees title, thinks: "oh boy, how are they going to explain this is a family friendly way? supercarlinbrothers: goes in a completely different direction yet somehow makes it work
Yeaaaaaaaah I'm totally sure their theory is totally what J.K. was talking about.... yep totally believe them..... nothing at all what so every skeevy about about his inappropriate charms.
Just gonna point out that Thor has two goats with phoenix like properties to them. They could be killed, skinned, and eaten and as long as the bones were kept intact they would come back to life like a phoenix can.
Rowling: How old are you? Eight. This is my answer to YOU. Me: Aberforth was definitely doing dirty stuff to those goats. Ben and J: VALHALLA!!!! Rowling: Uhhhhhh..... yea Valhalla. Definitely Valhalla.
I grew up on a farm. We had many different types of animals, including goats. If you smell a goat just one time, you'll never mistake it for anything else.
Exactly what I think sometimes. With this one I wonder if it might either be “holy freaking cow (or goat), they figured it out!” or “holy freaking cow, somehow I put all that together and had no idea what I had done!!”
I thought his connection to goats was just that most of his happy memories of Ariana so he continued to be associated with them and love them, as they are his last connection to the sister he loved more than anything.
ye even before learning that JK had given an obviously altered explanation to a kid i was fairly confident on what inappropriate meant :p now im 100% sure
Can we just appreciate how good this channel is they post like every two days even though these videos would usually take like 1 week to do and the quality is really good.
Here's a mild mystery I've been grappling with for years: in Philosopher's Stone, Hermione says she asks the conductor when they'll be arriving and then in Prisoner of Azkaban the narrator tells us the snack lady is the only adult our fav trio has seen on the Hogwarts Express until they find Lupin asleep in the last car. So who (or what) drives the train?!
shes never been on the train at that point. she was a muggle. so she would think to go ask the conductor for information. i assume that when she found no adult but the snack lady that she just asked her...
@@rossmandigo9984 I think you may have misunderstood me. In book one Hermione mentions she has been to the front to ask the conductor when they'll arrive and she gets an answer from who ever it is driving the train. In book three the narrator tells us that Lupin is the first adult all three have ever seen on the train aside from the snack lady. I can find the quotes if you'd like. It just always struck me as interesting
@@paintedcrow Hmm, that's a good point I definitely hadn't considered. They do seem to have a knack for concealment which would be necessary for the Hogwarts Express. The only thing that gives me pause is the fact that driving the HE is a big responsibility. Aside from Dobby on occasion, and arguably Creature, I don't know of any reference to a house elf with a job that important. I would think a goblin would be given the job before a house elf. But then, would a goblin think it beneath him/her to tow wizard children around?
@@TheDizzyDook On the subject of House-Elf employment, Helga Hufflepuff herself decided to bring in house-elves to work in the Hogwarts kitchens so that they could avoid being abused in other positions. So Hogwarts has always and would most definitely continue to consider employing house-elves for school functions including possibly transportation to the school itself. However, I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the trio seeing an adult on the train applies only to the people in the public compartments. I think of it as though the conductor being an adult is a given, however an old lady selling you sweets off a trolley and a random teacher sleeping right next to you both stick out like a sore thumb as first experiences with adults on a train that is thought to be filled with only students.
I have a degree in English. My focus was mythology and folklore. This is my favorite video of yours so far. This was very well researched. I love this theory.
Yeah it was fun hearing about the Mythology that is in the Harry Potter novels. I don’t know a lot about Norse Mythology, but I have read the Magnus Chase series by Rick Riordan and I related this to what I know!
I think HP is more based on Roman Myths rather than Nordic, example McGonagall’s first name is Minerva after the Roman form of Athena the goddess of wisdom. Another example is Remus Lupin, who is named after Remus the brother of Romulus the founder of Rome (both of which were raised by Lupa the wild goddess). So with all that,I have two theories about what the charms may have been: 1. JKR meant that Aberforth was trying some “adult” charms on his goat as evidenced by the way JKR responded to the kid who asked in the forum once she knew the question came from an eight year old. This explains the Petronius very well seeing as it mostly reflects who or what you love, as seen in Tonks with her wolf Petronius, or with Harry since he loved his memories of his dad. This goes well with the Roman theme as both the Romans and the Greeks before them believed in magical creatures called Satyr or a Faun which had extreme libido. 2. Another interpretation could be that Aberforth was trying to create a Golden Fleece. Seeing how a fleece is made from goats and going well with the magical aspects of Roman and Greek mythology it might be a good PG explanation. The importance of the Golden Fleece comes from its ability to heal the injured and bring back the dead so it even fits well with the Dumbledore family tragedy.
My bad, Rams are sheep not goats. The Golden Fleece myth was about a golden winged ram, I confused them with goats because the Romans used to wear goatskin cloaks in times of war.
...Goat Fiber from goat’s sheered for fiber is still called Wool. 🙄 You have wool-goats and milk-goats and some breeds are both. Cashmere? Yeah, that’s goat wool...from a kashmir goat.
I literally did a lesson in school about th latin (roman) and Greek behind HP but I think there was one Norse thing in there too so I think it gets things from all of them
3:58 You'd think that, but if you have ever been to a goat farm, they have a very distinct smell. Though the real question now is when has Harry ever been to a place with a lot of goats before.
Doesn't seem that far-fetched that the Dursleys would have considered a goat farm a good place to leave Harry to be babysat while they had a fun holiday with Dudley.
Could also be an early school/kindergarten excursion. To a farm. Maybe the Dursley’s found the idea of Harry picking up dung during something that was supposed to be fun, entertaining.
And why would that be in any form an innapropriate charm and why wouldn't JK tell this to an eight year old? You have to put your mind back in the gutter!
As far as any 8 year old is concerned cleaning is a heinous sin and " inappropriate" 😜 But can you imagine the parental out cry if she discussed inappropriate charms with a kid who still believes in Santa and tooth fairy? Political correctness rears its ugly head
I mean, that would be animal abuse. that's both a reason it would be considered inappropriate, and a reason why she wouldn't want to discuss it with a child. An eight year old isn't developed enough to understand what is wrong with that, and you don't want a kid trying that at home.
On the one hand I agree, whatever he did was definitely inappropriate in the R rated sense. On the other, I like the direction this video went, and even for wizards drinking alcohol that came from a goat's udder seems gross. I can also imagine why JK wouldn't want to explain Aberforth's mead milking scam to an eight year old.
I also really like the idea that goats are typically sacrificial animals to the gods in a lot of cultures and sure enough Ariana was the sacrifice for Dumbledore to change his ways. Dumbledore and Grindelwald being the best wizards of their time and dare I say it, almost godly.
7:33 Yes i think she knew what she was talking about there, i don't think she simplified the answer for the kid as much as just cleaning it up. I think she referenced sheep there for a reason, and i think it wasn't a very, well, pleasant reason😂
Ooh, that's a much better explanation. I assumed "inappropriate charms" were like INAPPROPRIATE, and she asked that girl how old she was because she was thinking "hmmm, this is not a reference to explain to kids" Always made me real uncomfortable with Aberforth as a character.
@@jozef09 Thanks for pointing out my typos, now will you focus on your spelling before judging others. Because unless I'm mistaken words don't have spaces between them.
JediKnightK - By “fouse” do you mean focus? Maybe I just missed an obvious generational joke. Who knows. Still, spelling is an important skill if you want to be taken seriously. Also, *because. Cause has an entirely different meaning (not to mention a different pronunciation as well). The generally accepted abbreviations for because are: cuz coz b/c
@@mena94x3 And your point is, "cuz" I don't see a problem. Maybe you shouldn't judge people. I don't, unless I there a reason. Because I am a fun person, and when I'm serious I am very serious. By the way all those abbreviations are not even real words. I think someone needs to retake English. Because all of them would not look good on a resume. They would think you can't spell right. Good day to you
The other thing you're missing about goats, is there was a long-standing insult against Scotsman that they would use their sheep 4 the ordinary use of women when a woman was not available or not willing. So the counter Scottish insult to Englishmen and the Englishman use the same insult against the Welsh is that they use goats for the same purpose instead because they could not even afford sheep. Which is basically a gig against the English and Welsh systems where common people no longer had grazing rights after the enclosure acts and so they only had enough room in their Garden to keep a goat. Whereas in Scotland Clan leaders continue to allow there Clan to graze sheep and other large animals on the private Estates once they became Nobles after the act of unification that made James the 6th of Scotland James the 1stof England. Basically that Scottish nobleman still treated the other clan members much better than an English peasant was treated.
In the 7th book, Aberforth explains simply that Arianna used to help him tend the goats. It would help keep her calm. Of COURSE he has a goat as his patronus and keeps them in honor of her. Goats milk is a great substitute for cows milk and easier to tend on a smaller property. They are also good to use as a "lawn mower"
True, that’s probably the only concrete reason, but the goat, stag, and boar head are both pretty specific details to be so closely together. Perhaps JK when planning the books and world building did come across Valhalla and borrowed some imagery. This may be where the idea of Harry and James’s: stag came from, which also leads the the doe of Lily and Severus. Interesting to think of where these ideas originated.
8:20 All a could think of in that moment was “please don’t tell me he is going to talk about that time Loki tied himself to a goat”... And now I continued watching and are a little irritated because earlier today my friends and I hade a fight because they pronounced it Valhalla but it is Valhall in Swedish and I am still angry at them
Another connection that I made was from Greek Mythology The Greek god Pan is a Faun and has the hindquarters, legs and horns of a goat. During the battle against Typhon and the Titans, Pan let out a horrendous screech (where the word panic comes from) which scared and scattered the monsters and titans. This helped aid Zeus to wind the war. ** Correct me if I’m wrong pls! ** In the book, Aberforth used his goat to scare away the deatheaters helping Harry and crew not get captured which helped them win the war.
You’re right about Pan’s scream, but I believe it was a minor satyr god that tricked Typhon into falling asleep. But Pan’s scream did scare people and scattered enemies
you said correct you, so I shall In Greek mythology, they're called Satyrs (fauns are roman) also, pan played a song on his panpipes to lull Typhon to sleep, so that Hermes could steel back Zeus's sinews, which Typhon had ripped out of his body, so unfortunately, your connection doesn't work :( though Pan DOES have his panic, which scares away his enemys
Goats are also associated with Yule in Scandinavian lore. They help deliver presents like reindeer help Santa in modern times and is likely the inspiration for it.
Son is Albus Daughter is Ariana Avenger is Credence or Aurelius (or what ever you want to call him.) Wings is phoenix "A son cruelly banished Despair of the daughter Return, great avenger With wings from the water."
Thank you Magnus chase for giving me enough background info to guess where this was going. Thanks for all of the effort put into this and other videos guys!
Omg same, our goats have beards too. And like they're extremely cunning. Like don't underestimate goats. No fence can stop them from getting the juicy grass from the neighbouring field.
Honestly for some reason I thought he was going to talk about Otis and Marvin (or whatever their fancy Norse names are). They are thors goats who pull his chariot and get slaughtered every night for food and resurrected every morning.
During his research about goats. He was attacked by a goat and now has that lopsided Goat tee ...also now on the full moons you can hear him eating tin cans and making goat noises
Noone: Absolutly noone: Ben: so these things from candid are good for important moments and thats why my kit is on the way *RIGHT AFTER THE MOST IMPORTANT MOMENT IN MY LIFE, MY MARRIEGE*
So I’m checking out the other comments… And I’m relieved to find that I’m not the only one who thought “inappropriate charms” was a euphemism for bestiality 😳
Normal people: watching after clicking, then going back to whatever they were doing Me: watching while sipping from my Harry Potter mug while wearing a nargle shirt and a goat onesie
Yes, Aberforth was a goat charmer. This is one of those jokes that really doesn't seem too complicated once I was old enough to start understanding adult/crude humor.
Mountain goats have anti-gravitational magic. Have you seen them standing on nearly vertical, smooth walls? About the charms... I think it was Ariana (goat-related name, BTW) who accidentally charmed the goats. Aberforth just covered for her.
"æ" depends a lot on which language we're talking about, tho😅 Isn't it only pronounced as a short "a" in Norwegian? While Old Norse is said to be very similar to modern Icelandic?
@@lampekartoffel Aegishjálmur/Aesir/Æsir/Ægir, Danish, Norwegian, and Icelandic it's the same pronunciation.... At least... yet we also have ä and ö but these are more common in swedish and norwegian than danish though... I learned it myself- Eg lærði það sjálfir - Jeg lærte det selv. (English - Icelandic - Danish)
@@Marvinuser @Rex Jensen ä and ö don't exist in Danish, we have æ and ø instead, while æ and ø are also predominant in Norwegian over ä and ö. As for pronunciation, some words are the same or similar between Danish, Swedish and Norwegian, though the meaning can vary quite drastically. But for the most part, Icelandic is dramatically different in pronunciation as it's closer to Old Norse than to the modern Scandinavian languages. As Emilie Sophie writes in her comment. The Danish pronunciation of æ is more like a long eehh sound with your tounge back and to the roof of the mouth, while in Norwegian it's a short ah sound with a more flat tounge, though it's still a bit more in the back of the mouth.
*me after the video:* Soooooooooooo Aberforth is Wizard Thor? *JK Rowling:* well ACTUALLY- *HP Fandom:* how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old woman?!
I liked this theory all in all but I feel like there's one flaw to it; when Ben was telling us that the dead preparing for battle is basically the ones who's supporting harry, I think there's another explanation. The 2 major groups that's fighting the death eaters in the battle of hogsward are the D.A. or Dumbledore's army and the O.o.t.P or the order of the phoenix. I like to think that the DA actually stands for the dead who's preparing for battle, I mean like there was a passage to hog's head from the DA headquarter and Aberforth was serving the DA foods-also what does DA stands for -Dumbledore's army- or as the SuperCarlin fans like to call it the Death's army. I also like to think that the O.o.t.P is the living fighting, because I mean phoenix rebirth makes sense right? That's my theory major thanks for you reading it.
Also also actually actUALLY! Mead is a very real drink. They have butterbeer, firewhiskey, gillywater, pumpkin juice and MEAD, and just in this one occasion?! That always rubbed me the wrong way! It has to have a special meaning!
In the wizarding world, you generally wouldn't need anything to produce food. Hermione explains that, while you can't make food appear from thin air, you CAN multiply it with magic once you have some. That's why even the poor Weasleys never run out of food.
Ah-ah, ah! Ah-ah, ah! We come from the land of the ice and snow From the midnight sun, where the hot springs flow The hammer of the gods W'ell drive our ships to new lands To fight the horde, and sing and cry Valhalla, I am coming! On we sweep with threshing oar Our only goal will be the western shore Ah-ah, ah! Ah-ah, ah! We come from the land of the ice and snow From the midnight sun where the hot springs flow How soft your fields so green Can whisper tales of gore Of how we calmed the tides of war We are your overlords On we sweep with threshing oar Our only goal will be the western shore So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
8:32: Yes! Yes! YES! Mythology to explain magic! My favorite kind of explanation! Also, did any other Magnus Chase fans get very excited when they started talking about Norse Mythology? No... just me? And, after a little research, I'd say Firewisky if I was in England since their drinking age is 18.
I didn't get excited, because of Magnus Chase as I have been a fan of Norse Mythology(and plenty of others) for a long, long time, but I am a Magnus Chase fan too :P
This was really interesting! Great research. So then the tunnel is like the bifrost, and a bit of a stretch but like in Ragnarok Jörmungandr is the great serpent, and Voldemort has Negini. It kind of all fits the mythology. Nice!
Me: Maybe Aberforth just likes goats Ben: THERE'S THIS GOAT AND RAGNAROK AND BOAR AND STAG AND BeEs!!!!!! Me: Or that. That works too. ❤️ love you guys 😁😂
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What is your wizarding beverage of choice??
SuperCarlinBrothers butterbeer is great
SuperCarlinBrothers have you ever been introduced to “the game”. As soon as you know about the game you are in the game and you play it for your intire life and as soon as you think of the game you loose the game. When you loose the game you have to announce to the room saying “I just lost the game”. Have fun
Firewhiskey for the win
Butterbear?
ashzotic ugh now I lost the game 😑
"But guess what I'm 30 and I still care." Kinda sums up my whole HP fandom...
When Jk Rowling answers a question with a question of her own "how old are you" I'm fairly certain that he banged a goat
Jeremy Rigdon same
Favorite line from the video 😁
It took me two weeks to read the entire series in second grade and I'm just glad I didn't have to wait for them to come out one at a time 😂 18 now and I still very much care
@@tayclayplays1457 you'll never fully understand what made Harry Potter so good than.
me: sees title, thinks: "oh boy, how are they going to explain this is a family friendly way? supercarlinbrothers: goes in a completely different direction yet somehow makes it work
AnetteCB
We all know what Rowling meant. Buuuut, props to them for legit actually finding something I *highly doubt* she ever intended to write.
Yeaaaaaaaah I'm totally sure their theory is totally what J.K. was talking about.... yep totally believe them..... nothing at all what so every skeevy about about his inappropriate charms.
Wait what what did Jkr say about goats and inappropriate charms.
JK seriously needs to hire these guys. Brizzy and tessa too!
What was that he was doing with goats? I still don’t get it
PS. I’m 24
Just gonna point out that Thor has two goats with phoenix like properties to them. They could be killed, skinned, and eaten and as long as the bones were kept intact they would come back to life like a phoenix can.
Yup. Those were the goats I thought of when he said they'd searched MYTHS for significant goats😂 totally forgot about the Valhalla goat🙈
@Lord Voldytort you called?
@Lord Voldytort My thoughts exactly, fellow Magnus Chase fan!!! Poor Otis...
@Lord Voldytort They certainly are called Otis & Marvin. I think Magnus enjoyed eating them.
And after they broke ones leg to get some marrow, it still was revived, but had a limp.
Idea board: "Ben should get married for the views." That one literally had me laughing out loud.
Yeah
Or “how frozen fits into the other pixar theory”😂😂😂😂
can't forget the nerdsync diss track
Or just simply Pixar Theory and musical notes 🎵 (causing us all to start singing)!
"There’s a story in my family that a phoenix will come to any Dumbledore who is in desperate need. "
"Except for my brother. He gets a goat."
🤣🤣🤣😵 Ded!
Lolololol
"And not because he's unworthy, no, it's his own personal choice."
Ariana to the phoenix: am I a joke to you?!
His needs where of a different nature.
8:11
Ben: Are you familiar with Ragnarok?
Me, who read Magnus Chase: Indeed.
Same 😂
The only reason I been looking at the comments is to see if anyone said anything about Magnus Chase😂
I love Percy´s series and i started reading Magnus (i am on second book) and i love it too.
Same here😃
Love that someone else knows about that series, Isabelle DeWitt-Gonzalez (sorry if i wrote your name wrong)
Ben: And what produces honey ??
Me: A STAAAAG.
😂
ME: A Phoenix! No, wait...
Yeah, I was thinking the same :D.
Me:the free browsing extension, honey
Yeah I thought he was gonna say stag too🤣
Rowling: How old are you? Eight. This is my answer to YOU.
Me: Aberforth was definitely doing dirty stuff to those goats.
Ben and J: VALHALLA!!!!
Rowling: Uhhhhhh..... yea Valhalla. Definitely Valhalla.
Joe Critt this
Especially with how she asked what age the person was like it was not safe for children.
soon JK will twitter about this and say "this was the truth all along peeps I called it"
To be fair to us, Norse Gods got around a bit. Although, turning into a goat is more of a Loki thing.
Jk Rowling after watching this: riiight right Valhalla that's what i meant!
I generally thought the answer might be one word "bestiality".
JK Rowling: How old are you?
Asker: Eight
JK Rowling: ...This is my answer to YOU.
Yuppppp
Yeah same
Yeah.
It should be obvious by that answer alone, that he has had intimate relations, with the goats!
Especially given the question of how one could clean a goat.... inappropriately.
0:51 "Ben should get married for the views" cracked me up
Hedda Askheim how are more people not commenting About this 😂😂
@@BigWillsDiaries I did comment about Ben having just gotten married!!
“Ben should get married for the views” being on the whiteboard was hilarious. You guys are great.
But also just so many good points in this video.
I grew up on a farm. We had many different types of animals, including goats. If you smell a goat just one time, you'll never mistake it for anything else.
7:45 "I'm 30 and I still care" So then I ask you Ben, were you the eight year old that asked J.K the question?
He would have been 17 in 2007.
@@Thalymor 17 you say? 1 and 7? 1+7=8! Mindblow!
Someone: "comes to the door with mail" Is there an A. Dumbledore that lives here?
Aberthorth, Albus and Ariana: Yes?
So... I'm assuming that's BEFORE Ariana died.
baby naming advice is literally "dont have the same initials" for this reason XD
@@aerongray2228 kris jenner didn't take that advice..
@@aerongray2228 *laughs nervously in has a brother with the same initials*
Albus Dumbledore’s initials are A.D which means after death
Your theories out of context are wonderful. “The Hog’s Head is Valhalla.” 🐐 🐗 🐝 🍻
Don't judge a man by where he is, judge a man by what he does with a goat.
Until it comes to the middle east
Namron9797 gross
@@nwsvoid7356 XD
I'm judging
I wonder if JK Rowling looks at some of these theories and just goes: "Hmmm, neat."
I bet she does.
This theory is so much better than what Rowling implied.
And then she goes: ”Maybe I’ve known this for twenty years?”
Exactly what I think sometimes. With this one I wonder if it might either be “holy freaking cow (or goat), they figured it out!” or “holy freaking cow, somehow I put all that together and had no idea what I had done!!”
And then she takes a picture with a polaroid camera.
I thought his connection to goats was just that most of his happy memories of Ariana so he continued to be associated with them and love them, as they are his last connection to the sister he loved more than anything.
I'm sorry, "inappropriate charms on a goat"? Thats... concerning.
Another great theory.
L S yeah I know I definitely wasn’t the only one thinking about that...
ye even before learning that JK had given an obviously altered explanation to a kid i was fairly confident on what inappropriate meant :p now im 100% sure
@@custard131 Yeah, same. When I got to that part I was sure
...we all kinda knew.
(Especially since Valhalla and “I just like pet goats, Pete!” are both age-appropriate responses.)
Is he Welsh? Although that tends to be sheep
It's genuinely cute how far you'll go to come up with a reason why Old Ab got a little too friendly with the livestock lol
Paul Chatteris flames aren’t welcome
Silencio
0:46
That was totally a missed opportunity to say oh my GOATness
Can we just appreciate how good this channel is they post like every two days even though these videos would usually take like 1 week to do and the quality is really good.
They post every Tuesday and Thursday. But yes, their quality is great.
I'm always impressed by how sound your theories are. I always come in "no way" and leave "yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense"
Here's a mild mystery I've been grappling with for years: in Philosopher's Stone, Hermione says she asks the conductor when they'll be arriving and then in Prisoner of Azkaban the narrator tells us the snack lady is the only adult our fav trio has seen on the Hogwarts Express until they find Lupin asleep in the last car. So who (or what) drives the train?!
shes never been on the train at that point. she was a muggle. so she would think to go ask the conductor for information. i assume that when she found no adult but the snack lady that she just asked her...
@@rossmandigo9984 I think you may have misunderstood me. In book one Hermione mentions she has been to the front to ask the conductor when they'll arrive and she gets an answer from who ever it is driving the train. In book three the narrator tells us that Lupin is the first adult all three have ever seen on the train aside from the snack lady. I can find the quotes if you'd like. It just always struck me as interesting
Maybe the conductor is a house elf?
@@paintedcrow Hmm, that's a good point I definitely hadn't considered. They do seem to have a knack for concealment which would be necessary for the Hogwarts Express. The only thing that gives me pause is the fact that driving the HE is a big responsibility. Aside from Dobby on occasion, and arguably Creature, I don't know of any reference to a house elf with a job that important. I would think a goblin would be given the job before a house elf. But then, would a goblin think it beneath him/her to tow wizard children around?
@@TheDizzyDook On the subject of House-Elf employment, Helga Hufflepuff herself decided to bring in house-elves to work in the Hogwarts kitchens so that they could avoid being abused in other positions. So Hogwarts has always and would most definitely continue to consider employing house-elves for school functions including possibly transportation to the school itself.
However, I am going to go out on a limb here and say that the trio seeing an adult on the train applies only to the people in the public compartments. I think of it as though the conductor being an adult is a given, however an old lady selling you sweets off a trolley and a random teacher sleeping right next to you both stick out like a sore thumb as first experiences with adults on a train that is thought to be filled with only students.
I have a degree in English. My focus was mythology and folklore. This is my favorite video of yours so far. This was very well researched. I love this theory.
Except for the pronunciation of names!
You realise if you have a degree in English your name is still eleehaley
Yeah it was fun hearing about the Mythology that is in the Harry Potter novels. I don’t know a lot about Norse Mythology, but I have read the Magnus Chase series by Rick Riordan and I related this to what I know!
0:51 "Ben should get married for the views" Ben!!
I thought I was the only one to see it lol
I noticed it too
😂
That whole board is gold
How frozen fits into the Pixar theory....
No
Me seeing the title of this video: He’s just Welsh
Me: *sees title* oh. Oh no. *clicks anyway out of morbid curiosity*
Morbid
...okay so this theory is reassuring.
Except...the subtext of the books themselves...still... *isn’t*
Aberforth definitely gets frisky with the billy
Literally me.
Ben: Leave a comment saying what wizard drink you'd prefer.
Everyones' actual comments: Oh he definitely touched some goats on the sweet spot.
Yes
Why else would she ask the kids' age?
I think HP is more based on Roman Myths rather than Nordic, example McGonagall’s first name is Minerva after the Roman form of Athena the goddess of wisdom. Another example is Remus Lupin, who is named after Remus the brother of Romulus the founder of Rome (both of which were raised by Lupa the wild goddess). So with all that,I have two theories about what the charms may have been:
1. JKR meant that Aberforth was trying some “adult” charms on his goat as evidenced by the way JKR responded to the kid who asked in the forum once she knew the question came from an eight year old. This explains the Petronius very well seeing as it mostly reflects who or what you love, as seen in Tonks with her wolf Petronius, or with Harry since he loved his memories of his dad. This goes well with the Roman theme as both the Romans and the Greeks before them believed in magical creatures called Satyr or a Faun which had extreme libido.
2. Another interpretation could be that Aberforth was trying to create a Golden Fleece. Seeing how a fleece is made from goats and going well with the magical aspects of Roman and Greek mythology it might be a good PG explanation. The importance of the Golden Fleece comes from its ability to heal the injured and bring back the dead so it even fits well with the Dumbledore family tragedy.
My bad, Rams are sheep not goats. The Golden Fleece myth was about a golden winged ram, I confused them with goats because the Romans used to wear goatskin cloaks in times of war.
HP can be a bit of a mishmash though. There are Celtic calendar ties in the wand lore, for instance.
...Goat Fiber from goat’s sheered for fiber is still called Wool. 🙄
You have wool-goats and milk-goats and some breeds are both. Cashmere? Yeah, that’s goat wool...from a kashmir goat.
I literally did a lesson in school about th latin (roman) and Greek behind HP but I think there was one Norse thing in there too so I think it gets things from all of them
I really like your theories, but the second one isn't PG13 or anything, so if it was truly that, then surely she could have told it to an 8 year old 🤷
3:58
You'd think that, but if you have ever been to a goat farm, they have a very distinct smell.
Though the real question now is when has Harry ever been to a place with a lot of goats before.
Doesn't seem that far-fetched that the Dursleys would have considered a goat farm a good place to leave Harry to be babysat while they had a fun holiday with Dudley.
Didnt Harry go to the zoo in the first book? If he did they would almost certainly have seen goats.
He basically made a guess after knowing of goats.
Could also be an early school/kindergarten excursion. To a farm.
Maybe the Dursley’s found the idea of Harry picking up dung during something that was supposed to be fun, entertaining.
And why would that be in any form an innapropriate charm and why wouldn't JK tell this to an eight year old? You have to put your mind back in the gutter!
As far as any 8 year old is concerned cleaning is a heinous sin and " inappropriate" 😜
But can you imagine the parental out cry if she discussed inappropriate charms with a kid who still believes in Santa and tooth fairy? Political correctness rears its ugly head
I mean, that would be animal abuse. that's both a reason it would be considered inappropriate, and a reason why she wouldn't want to discuss it with a child. An eight year old isn't developed enough to understand what is wrong with that, and you don't want a kid trying that at home.
Tho Mas, EXACTLY.
On the one hand I agree, whatever he did was definitely inappropriate in the R rated sense.
On the other, I like the direction this video went, and even for wizards drinking alcohol that came from a goat's udder seems gross.
I can also imagine why JK wouldn't want to explain Aberforth's mead milking scam to an eight year old.
I also really like the idea that goats are typically sacrificial animals to the gods in a lot of cultures and sure enough Ariana was the sacrifice for Dumbledore to change his ways. Dumbledore and Grindelwald being the best wizards of their time and dare I say it, almost godly.
What a mind bomb! But Ben, I think everyone is really interested to know: what is happening with your facial hair?
Keer_Kanos THANK YOU I’ve been searching the comments and no one has said anything!
FINALLY it's been driving me nuts and nobody seemed to be mentioning it!
This is why I came here, I cannot believe no one else has mentioned it!
This is the only reason I scrolled down to the comments.
For real! My husband and I were watching and saying “please explain the beard.”
There's something I didn't know I needed, but I expect nothing less than a surprise from SCB!
I LOVE YOUR EDITOR
"he pays me to"
AHAHAHAHA
7:33 Yes i think she knew what she was talking about there, i don't think she simplified the answer for the kid as much as just cleaning it up. I think she referenced sheep there for a reason, and i think it wasn't a very, well, pleasant reason😂
Ooh, that's a much better explanation. I assumed "inappropriate charms" were like INAPPROPRIATE, and she asked that girl how old she was because she was thinking "hmmm, this is not a reference to explain to kids"
Always made me real uncomfortable with Aberforth as a character.
Ben is missing a chunk of beard and I can’t unsee it.
me too
I noticed it from the beginning and was hoping another comment mentioned it
"I'd be a lot warmer and happier, with a belly full of mead," - Skyrim Gaurds.
JediKnightK guards is spelled g u a r d s. Learn to spell
@@jozef09 actually it is spelled guards. you put some extra spaces in there.
@@jozef09 Thanks for pointing out my typos, now will you focus on your spelling before judging others. Because unless I'm mistaken words don't have spaces between them.
JediKnightK - By “fouse” do you mean focus? Maybe I just missed an obvious generational joke. Who knows. Still, spelling is an important skill if you want to be taken seriously.
Also, *because. Cause has an entirely different meaning (not to mention a different pronunciation as well). The generally accepted abbreviations for because are:
cuz
coz
b/c
@@mena94x3 And your point is, "cuz" I don't see a problem. Maybe you shouldn't judge people. I don't, unless I there a reason. Because I am a fun person, and when I'm serious I am very serious. By the way all those abbreviations are not even real words. I think someone needs to retake English. Because all of them would not look good on a resume. They would think you can't spell right. Good day to you
What drink would i get?
"We'll take the lot"
(more like one of everything but still)
I hope you are ready to taste the green cave drink that drove Dumbledore crazy.
The other thing you're missing about goats, is there was a long-standing insult against Scotsman that they would use their sheep 4 the ordinary use of women when a woman was not available or not willing.
So the counter Scottish insult to Englishmen and the Englishman use the same insult against the Welsh is that they use goats for the same purpose instead because they could not even afford sheep.
Which is basically a gig against the English and Welsh systems where common people no longer had grazing rights after the enclosure acts and so they only had enough room in their Garden to keep a goat. Whereas in Scotland Clan leaders continue to allow there Clan to graze sheep and other large animals on the private Estates once they became Nobles after the act of unification that made James the 6th of Scotland James the 1stof England.
Basically that Scottish nobleman still treated the other clan members much better than an English peasant was treated.
Me 10 minutes into this theory: that's nice.
Me 10 minutes and some seconds into this theory: Holy fudgegalleon
In the 7th book, Aberforth explains simply that Arianna used to help him tend the goats. It would help keep her calm.
Of COURSE he has a goat as his patronus and keeps them in honor of her.
Goats milk is a great substitute for cows milk and easier to tend on a smaller property. They are also good to use as a "lawn mower"
This is almost definitely the correct answer.
That makes alot of sense
True, that’s probably the only concrete reason, but the goat, stag, and boar head are both pretty specific details to be so closely together. Perhaps JK when planning the books and world building did come across Valhalla and borrowed some imagery. This may be where the idea of Harry and James’s: stag came from, which also leads the the doe of Lily and Severus. Interesting to think of where these ideas originated.
They are good "lawnmowers" if you only have lawn. Goats prefer tree branches and tree bark.
Sounds like something Aberforth would say to cover his tracks
8:20 All a could think of in that moment was “please don’t tell me he is going to talk about that time Loki tied himself to a goat”... And now I continued watching and are a little irritated because earlier today my friends and I hade a fight because they pronounced it Valhalla but it is Valhall in Swedish and I am still angry at them
Another connection that I made was from Greek Mythology
The Greek god Pan is a Faun and has the hindquarters, legs and horns of a goat. During the battle against Typhon and the Titans, Pan let out a horrendous screech (where the word panic comes from) which scared and scattered the monsters and titans. This helped aid Zeus to wind the war. ** Correct me if I’m wrong pls! ** In the book, Aberforth used his goat to scare away the deatheaters helping Harry and crew not get captured which helped them win the war.
O my gosh.
You’re right about Pan’s scream, but I believe it was a minor satyr god that tricked Typhon into falling asleep. But Pan’s scream did scare people and scattered enemies
you said correct you, so I shall
In Greek mythology, they're called Satyrs (fauns are roman)
also, pan played a song on his panpipes to lull Typhon to sleep, so that Hermes could steel back Zeus's sinews, which Typhon had ripped out of his body, so unfortunately, your connection doesn't work :(
though Pan DOES have his panic, which scares away his enemys
Goats are also associated with Yule in Scandinavian lore. They help deliver presents like reindeer help Santa in modern times and is likely the inspiration for it.
Your beard...it had me confused the whole time
I was a bit confused myself. Just missing the one part. Hard to not look.
Yeah, is he doing it on purpose?
My inner Monk is going crazy...
I just noticed at 7:58 and it's weirding me out.
Between this and Jay having a somewhat red nose in the last video's (or was that explained..?) I sense we're getting our legs pulled.
it's because aberforth is the GOAT by helping harry, Hermione and ron.
THE END
💯
Michael Jordan took that personal and became the greatest wizard of all time
Mind blown, every time. JK has got to be watching this and just going, "hey, someone finally got it!".
No, she is watching this and says "uh nice theory I would never have come up with this, let's head to twitter and make this canonical"
🙏🙏🙏
nope. he definitely molested the goat.
Son is Albus
Daughter is Ariana
Avenger is Credence or Aurelius (or what ever you want to call him.)
Wings is phoenix
"A son cruelly banished
Despair of the daughter
Return, great avenger
With wings from the water."
😮
“It’s a stag!” Ben....Ben , how did a squirrel turn into a stag
Oh, the squirrel just gaurds the tree. His name is ratostosk
Thank you Magnus chase for giving me enough background info to guess where this was going. Thanks for all of the effort put into this and other videos guys!
I always just assumed... you know... he ReAlLy loved his goats......
No one:
No one at ALL:
Ben: MEH! That was a goat sound.
Please stop spreading this horrible joke format.
@@tappajaav I don't understand this joke format
Yeah that's fine.
@@Brandyalla there's not much to understand. Basically it's just a way to be completely unfunny. The end.
"BEN SHOULD GET MARRIED FOR VIEWS"
"NERDSYNC DISS TRACK"
8:15 Best. Part. Ever
Point of order: FEMALE GOATS CAN HAVE BEARDS!!!
My doe had a glorious beard, her brother didn’t. 5:55
Omg same, our goats have beards too. And like they're extremely cunning. Like don't underestimate goats. No fence can stop them from getting the juicy grass from the neighbouring field.
Ben: "They are not the army of the dead"
Me: No, they're the army of the "Most of Them Are About to be Dead." Are these too many comments?
Nooooooo
Ben: Norse mythology
Ben: Ragnarok
Ben: Valhalla
* Magnus Chase fans have entered the chat*
Honestly for some reason I thought he was going to talk about Otis and Marvin (or whatever their fancy Norse names are). They are thors goats who pull his chariot and get slaughtered every night for food and resurrected every morning.
The army in Valhalla is dead, but has been brought back like The Phoenix, as in Order Of.
@@blueskiesandstarrynights Actually So did I.
Harry sees Aberforth’s single blue eye in the mirror fragment. Reminds one of single-eyed Odin
I can’t stop wondering what happened to your beard, Ben. Please enlighten us
Only second comment about this. HOW?! 😆
It's the latest fad in the U.S.
just came down to the depths of comments to find out
During his research about goats. He was attacked by a goat and now has that lopsided Goat tee ...also now on the full moons you can hear him eating tin cans and making goat noises
the „C” that the beard creates stands for Carlin
Noone:
Absolutly noone:
Ben: so these things from candid are good for important moments and thats why my kit is on the way *RIGHT AFTER THE MOST IMPORTANT MOMENT IN MY LIFE, MY MARRIEGE*
And my beard is also jacked up when I could have just shaved it off
I really appreciate how deeply he went with this analysis. But I'm still thinking a satyress.
So I’m checking out the other comments… And I’m relieved to find that I’m not the only one who thought “inappropriate charms” was a euphemism for bestiality 😳
it probably, likely, is and this is just a fun, alternative theory.
"That was a goat sound."
Thanks for the clarification there Ben.
I wasn't emotionally prepared for Wizarding Ragnarok while clicking on a title hinting the backstory of a goat.
Normal people: watching after clicking, then going back to whatever they were doing
Me: watching while sipping from my Harry Potter mug while wearing a nargle shirt and a goat onesie
I feel like this theory is like when you do something incredible on accident
This has to be my FAVORITE video thus far! Ben singing the ragnarok music was the funniest thing EVERRRRRRR 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Charms” just seems like a polite way for JK to say something else...
Yes, Aberforth was a goat charmer. This is one of those jokes that really doesn't seem too complicated once I was old enough to start understanding adult/crude humor.
I would like this comment but it has 69 likes already, so...
@@aparadoxicalone And now it's 96.
I was looking for this comment. If this theory was what JK Rowling was implying I don’t know why an 8 year old shouldn’t hear it
Amelia Garcia, you don’t know why JK Rowling wouldn’t talk about zoophilia to an 8-year-old?
Mountain goats have anti-gravitational magic. Have you seen them standing on nearly vertical, smooth walls? About the charms... I think it was Ariana (goat-related name, BTW) who accidentally charmed the goats. Aberforth just covered for her.
:-O
I like how you're doing the quotes. Nice backdrop and glowing text
For future reference: The “æ” makes a short “a” sound and the “ð” makes a “th” sound.
"æ" depends a lot on which language we're talking about, tho😅
Isn't it only pronounced as a short "a" in Norwegian? While Old Norse is said to be very similar to modern Icelandic?
Random dane here.. æ on danish is like a long eehh
in norwegian æ would make the sound you would make when you say aaa, but it is shorter
@@lampekartoffel Aegishjálmur/Aesir/Æsir/Ægir, Danish, Norwegian, and Icelandic it's the same pronunciation.... At least... yet we also have ä and ö but these are more common in swedish and norwegian than danish though...
I learned it myself- Eg lærði það sjálfir - Jeg lærte det selv. (English - Icelandic - Danish)
@@Marvinuser @Rex Jensen ä and ö don't exist in Danish, we have æ and ø instead, while æ and ø are also predominant in Norwegian over ä and ö. As for pronunciation, some words are the same or similar between Danish, Swedish and Norwegian, though the meaning can vary quite drastically. But for the most part, Icelandic is dramatically different in pronunciation as it's closer to Old Norse than to the modern Scandinavian languages.
As Emilie Sophie writes in her comment. The Danish pronunciation of æ is more like a long eehh sound with your tounge back and to the roof of the mouth, while in Norwegian it's a short ah sound with a more flat tounge, though it's still a bit more in the back of the mouth.
*"ben should get married for the views"*
Ben should marry me for the views*
He *is* married. They got married at Disney.
It’s not the real idea board
Ben: Ragnarok.
People who read Magnus Chase: Yes?
*Ben starts talking about honey*
Me: So, this is yet another Honey sponsored video
Later, Ben: Dumbledore
Me: Phew
imagine that though. Sponsored by Candid and Honey in the same episode
The boar dying and returning to life just to resume the cycle is very reminiscent of a Phoenix...
Excellent point! The whole myth is another version of the resurrection theme!
I always thought the goat thing was just a reference to how stubborn Aberforth was.
*me after the video:* Soooooooooooo Aberforth is Wizard Thor?
*JK Rowling:* well ACTUALLY-
*HP Fandom:* how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old woman?!
hahahahaha
I mean thats whats implied.
Rita Skeeter even talks about Aberforths 'fondness for fiddling with goats.'
The hp fandom is trash.
@@Auron1Roxas2 And it's a wonderful, glittery pill of trash!
... and of lemon sorbets, of course.
“Ben should get married for the views”
Well done, guys. That is hilarious and somehow pointed.
I liked this theory all in all but I feel like there's one flaw to it; when Ben was telling us that the dead preparing for battle is basically the ones who's supporting harry, I think there's another explanation.
The 2 major groups that's fighting the death eaters in the battle of hogsward are the D.A. or Dumbledore's army and the O.o.t.P or the order of the phoenix.
I like to think that the DA actually stands for the dead who's preparing for battle, I mean like there was a passage to hog's head from the DA headquarter and Aberforth was serving the DA foods-also what does DA stands for -Dumbledore's army- or as the SuperCarlin fans like to call it the Death's army.
I also like to think that the O.o.t.P is the living fighting, because I mean phoenix rebirth makes sense right?
That's my theory major thanks for you reading it.
Ben, the goats are also featured in Greek mythology as in Pan!
And styrs in general
And Galatea
Amalthea to
You wouldn't happen to be a PJO fan, are you??
@@erindavies211 half of the people in the comments are definitely PJo fans😂😂😂
Also Hogsmead.
Hogs. Mead.
Also also actually actUALLY! Mead is a very real drink. They have butterbeer, firewhiskey, gillywater, pumpkin juice and MEAD, and just in this one occasion?! That always rubbed me the wrong way! It has to have a special meaning!
In the wizarding world, you generally wouldn't need anything to produce food. Hermione explains that, while you can't make food appear from thin air, you CAN multiply it with magic once you have some. That's why even the poor Weasleys never run out of food.
Ah-ah, ah!
Ah-ah, ah!
We come from the land of the ice and snow
From the midnight sun, where the hot springs flow
The hammer of the gods
W'ell drive our ships to new lands
To fight the horde, and sing and cry
Valhalla, I am coming!
On we sweep with threshing oar
Our only goal will be the western shore
Ah-ah, ah!
Ah-ah, ah!
We come from the land of the ice and snow
From the midnight sun where the hot springs flow
How soft your fields so green
Can whisper tales of gore
Of how we calmed the tides of war
We are your overlords
On we sweep with threshing oar
Our only goal will be the western shore
So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins
For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
Ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh, ooh-ooh
I always just figured he really liked goats...like really really liked them...in the biblical sense lol
Aberforth was a lonely man... can't blame him.
Ben: "What does Dumbledore actually mean?"
Me (out loud into my totally empty room): "nOOOOOOO......"
Knowing Rowling, we're getting a tweet soon about how Aberforth screwing the goat is really symbolism for the unheard plight of zoophilists.
Marc Shanahan lol yep
I would actually get behind that. Partially because it does make sense.
8:32: Yes! Yes! YES! Mythology to explain magic! My favorite kind of explanation!
Also, did any other Magnus Chase fans get very excited when they started talking about Norse Mythology? No... just me?
And, after a little research, I'd say Firewisky if I was in England since their drinking age is 18.
Yes i was looking for Magnus Chase comment!
I didn't get excited, because of Magnus Chase as I have been a fan of Norse Mythology(and plenty of others) for a long, long time, but I am a Magnus Chase fan too :P
Yes!!!! Right from when Ben mentioned Ragnarok I was starting to think on Magnus Chase
When Ben mentioned Ragnarok, my brain went straight to Norse Mythology then to Magnus Chase. I got really excited.
Just reread sword of summer then this video comes up xD
3:00
Are you sure about that?
I would say, "I trust Severus Snape completely."
When he said the Norse goat had mead.
"BEN YOU SOLVED IT"
Nailed it.
12:36 I mean Hogsmeade
Hog's Mead?
Oh yeah, it's all coming together
This....this is seriously f'in awesome. Excellent friggin work and connecting.... this is amazing
This was really interesting! Great research. So then the tunnel is like the bifrost, and a bit of a stretch but like in Ragnarok Jörmungandr is the great serpent, and Voldemort has Negini. It kind of all fits the mythology. Nice!
I can’t even pay attention to the video, I’m to distracted by his beard
I was wondering if it was just me? Goatee or Mustache? Nope... Both.
This is one of the most spot on theory videos I've ever seen. You have nailed it.
Me: Maybe Aberforth just likes goats
Ben: THERE'S THIS GOAT AND RAGNAROK AND BOAR AND STAG AND BeEs!!!!!!
Me: Or that. That works too.
❤️ love you guys 😁😂
I’ve never heard such a beautiful and accurate version of immigrant song 😂
Bro, mind blown. Seriously, like this is the best theory you have come up with. Best video so far.
Second time watching: just saw that your “board” says “Ben should get married for the views” 😂😂