This review is on point. I am just starting to make my dreams come true by learning how to play the piano and looking into these two specific brands. I would definitely go for Roland, I’ve worked so hard over the years to save for this and I will not let this pandemic stop me from making my way into a pianist someday. Thank you, Sir!
@@morF1ni sure did. I can’t say anything that was already said in the video other than I don’t regret buying it at all. It’s a great piano for me, as a beginner that is taking my learning seriously.
This channel is underrated. I bought a FP10 a few months ago, and I am completely in love with it. I've seen so many videos from other reviewers, comparisons, etc. and they are nowhere near as complete as this one.
@@scarsstitches636After almost two years using it, I can confidently say it's an amazing product for the price range. The action is quite good (it's not perfect, obviously) and doesn't make too much noise (although you can hear the keys a little after some use). If you just started playing, I wouldn't second guess it and buy it. If you're used to an acoustic however, I would suggest looking into something like the FP-90X or similar, which has better action and overall quality. Coming from a Thoman DP Arranger, the Roland FP-10 is a beast. Doubt you'll find anything better at this price. Hope it helps!
been looking for yamaha p45 the whole week and couldn’t find one online in my region, I think people start to find piano as hobby during quarantine (n I’m sooo late 😂). n now after watching this I’m starting to eye on Roland 😶🤷♀️
@@bryanromoleroux3531 Dude.... please. If we're talking about p125 we can argue (barely, as PHA4 is far better than GHS), but P45 sound? really? Context: A year ago I've buyed a P515 with NWX and CFX+Boesendorfer... and just can't leave my old FP-30. P45 is option only if cheaper, even Casio Privias are better options in sound and mechanics.
This review is outstanding. You really know what you're talking about. And I love how you consider more professional usage. Bought the FP10, and I'm really looking forward to practice again after 6 years of abstinence .
11:45 After playing the P45 again and comparing it right away to the FP10... that's it. I'm sold on the Roland... SERIOUSLY! Most informative comparison ever. Thank you!
I am very impressed with this man’s analysis an explanations with great examples. I am not a pianist, but hope to learn soon in retirement. As a guitarist, knowing your instruments can bring a great deal of confidence and encouragement. This review is excellent from my vantage point. Thank you sir, it is clear that you know your instruments intimately.
Somehow, despite the Roland apparently having a more complex sound and ways to customize it, the Yamaha still sounds more like a real piano to me. As a classically-trained pianist, I look for sound that satisfies the ear and "tricks" it into believing it's an acoustic piano (because that's what I'm used to), and Roland just doesn't manage to do that. I used to have a standing piano from Roland as a kid, and it just couldn't compare to even the cheap acoustic standing pianos that my music school could afford. I'd say that the Roland might be a better choice for someone looking into playing less classical music and more jazz/pop/funk/etc. However, I think the Yamaha is superior for someone classically trained.
Wonder Why don't u choose roalnd if you are a classical pianist.. I'm a classical pianist and love the roland for that, the warm and dynamic tone makes it perfect for sound classical.. Mean while The bright sound of yamaha with a thinner tone makes it sound worst for classical
I came into this review thinking "I wish there was a clear indication of which one is superior" and as I listened along till the 10:40 minute mark and the presenter said "I try to be as objective as possible in these reviews but the FP-10 blows the P-45 away in almost every aspect" I found my answer. It could not have been more apparent.
@@MerriamPianos Thanks. Great review by the way. I actually have my eyes set on the Roland FP-30X but before I go there I wanted to assess whether I am missing something by not considering Yamahas. This video tells me I am not
As an owner of Roland FP10, I feel the need to provide this feedback: I think soundwise it is not bad, but not too particular good But most important issue is the clicking noises I start to get from some keys. Apparently I am not the one with this issue. Just wanted to provide this feedback to potential buyers. If I could buy a new one, I would go with a more proven model like P45
Were that clicks present from start or appeared later? It's a known assembly problem of first parties of instuments. Later the problem was fixed. At least. according to what I see in shops and from reviews.
I just brought the FP10 after looking at the Yamaha and casio 1000 in the shop. The Roland’s keys are far more realistic than the Yamaha and that swung it for me
Thank you so much for this! I had a grand piano for for 20 years living with my parents but I’ve moved out and I now live in a smaller apartment so I can’t house a massive grand piano anymore. But I am looking into one of these guys to give me a similar grand piano feel so thank you for this!
I love both Yamaha and Roland; their philosophies diverge a bit; Roland knows funk a little more than Yamaha, but mechanical action noise (never a problem in chest-beating loudness music) increases after a year or two of passionate playing in either case. I have eliminated most action noise by replacing felt that gets packed down. The tonal difference between FP-30 and P-45 is a total subjective call...to me, the Roland grand piano tone sounded a little French, with certain midrange harmonics emphasized. The Yamaha piano waveform is neutral, and consistent through all octaves. ...and very responsive to touch, even in a starter-version instrument. For funk Rhodes patches, I have to say Roland understands funk more deeply. Ya gotta work with what ya got!
Peter Moffitt: What you say makes good sense. Rolands work well on stage, which is maybe why they've put a better effort into their true stage pianos (the RD series) up until now at least. Suddenly, with the 30/60/90X models the FP pianos have jumped a huge step IMO. Maybe there will be an FP10X too. Hope so, for the sake of tomorrow's newbies to DPs. Meanwhile, those who just want to play straight piano on a DP tend to choose Yamaha or Kawai, it seems.
@petermoffitt You said about mechanical action noice which I don't want even after a year because I will not buy another digital piano and it's expensive... So Which is better to buy Roland or Yamaha pls answer I have seen some yt they said that Roland has issues..
@@xevivr For the best action at a low price, maybe buy the Korg D1. It's got no speakers, and few frills, but it's got one of Korg's better actions. Unlike most of the cheaper portable pianos, it has a (simple) screen and MIDI Legacy connections. It cannot split the keyboard into two voices and it is a bit heavy, but will probably last longer than other pianos under US $1200. The patches/tones are PCM. In a sense, it's a poor man's stage piano. In another thread about this video I said that the P45 has a reasonable action (GHS) for the price, and it's true. But Stu said somewhere that he gets tired quickly while playing the GHS action. Borrowing a P45 earlier this year, I found it frustrating when it could not keep up on my jazz arpeggios - indeed, its usefulness depends a lot on your playing style and how advanced you are. I don't like the old (pre-X) FP range, because it's too far from my concept of a pianistic action-sound response. I also dislike the exaggerated note shape and the weakness in the mids, but some of this is editable. I found these things very annoying on the FP50, but I expect less of a cheaper piano like the FP10. NB many people love the old FPs, and at these starter piano prices we shouldn't complain too much. I wouldn't worry too much about the supposed increasing key noise. Speed and fluidity of action are much more important issues IMO.
I'm hanging around waiting for my Roland FP-10 order to be fulfilled from my local music shop (in the UK). You've actively helped me not just buckle and ask them to swap it for the P-45 I know they have. Such a well-planned, thought-through and excellently presented video. Thanks :)
You're very welcome Jacob! We're happy to hear that the video was helpful in your decision making process. The Roland FP10 offers an excellent playing experience, especially considering its attractive price. I am quite confident that you will find it to be well worth the wait! Enjoy the FP10 once it arrives! :)
It is hard to disagree with that sentiment! The Roland PHA4 action featured on the FP10 is exceptional (especially for the attractive price point of the FP10)! :)
I saw the one, Roland at Costco and I was amazed. And it felt liking playing a piano. I used rent Baldwin pianos to practice. The feel is as important as the sound.
I have an accoustic piano at home, but I just ordered this from Amazon after months' of deliberation. I live in a townhouse, and my neighbor has been working from home in this pandemic and rarely leaves home. This keyboard is scheduled to arrive in a few days, and I'm super excited to be able to practice any time of the day/night!!
Such comprehensive and professional demo on these two digital pianos. It's really helpful for parents shopping for beginners level pianos for children. Thanks!
I go with Roland FP10. I'm through with Yamaha P45. Also, the keyboard player is awesome. Maybe it depends on the player why those two instruments sounds good..
I was dabbling with these and couldn't find a good comparison for tones and such. This video helped tremendously, and I'll definitely buy the Roland :)
I have the Yamaha P45 and as a beginner playing since 6 months, I'm more than satisfied. I guess Yamaha is substantially cheaper than the Roland for the sound it produces. As a beginner, terms like resonance and polyphony won't matter much as your focus would be on getting the notes right from the piano sheet 😉 So IMHO, a lower spec piano like Yamaha would be better so that when u get better at playing, you have something more high spec to upgrade to which will be far more exciting as you would be more seasoned by then to comprehend these terms.Btw, Yamaha sounds quite good actually.
I'm a beginner as well and confused between p45 & CDP s100, any tips? Also, could you tell me how you started learning using the P45, is there any app compatible with it?
Superb review, no stand-up comedy, just useful facts, great playing and informed opinion, with a decisive conclusion. Perfect! Thanks for the care and attention!
@@MerriamPianos You might like to know that I bought an FP10 as a result of the review, very pleased so far, no unnecessary complications, sounds great, job done. I wish I had been able to buy from your company but I am In Turkiye now and it would have been complicated! Thanks again for a great contribution to the keyboard world!
Thank you so much for this review! I am a classical pianist who is accustomed to Yamaha Clavinovas for digital practice and MIDI use. I have to rent a keyboard for a few months due to a temporary move, and if it wasn’t for this video I would have gone with the Yamaha purely out of brand bias. Thanks for opening my eyes and making the differences between these instruments easier to understand!
This is one of the best reviews / comparisons I have ever seen. I really appreciate how thorough you were, and I like that there was a mix of honest objectivity and subjectivity. This video made up my mind for me. Thanks again!
This is the best review I have seen so far on these keyboards. You answered every question I had and more. Having worked with many of the best keyboard players in the business since the late 70's, I must say you have some really good chops. Thanks for a great review.
This video was very helpful in making my choice of digital pianos (candidates were Roland FP10 and Yamaha P125A, which is on sale for almost the same price as P45 in Sept 2023). I took my piano teacher to the local music store and we both played both pianos before deciding on the Roland FP10. Great job on recording the sound so that I could really (with my good studio headphones) hear the differences.
Hi! Thanks so much for your kind words! We're glad to hear that the video was helpful. Congrats on deciding on the amazing Roland FP10! It is a fantastic instrument with a great touch and tone. I know you will be pleased with what it offers musically. :)
i own a FP10 and it is so accurate on the review. i have tried out both instruments before getting them. However the biggest win for FP10 is the ivory feel, the feel is amazeballs
Thankyou for doing this review. I'm looking to getting back into playing after a very long absence of about 30yrs. I'm interested in the Yamaha but now i'm thinking about the Roland instead. Thankyou for opening my eyes to the Roland. Great review :-)
Same situation here of 20 years. I tried both at the music store and would agree the FP10 feels closer to playing a acoustic piano. I ended up choosing a higher end Yamaha for its authentic sounding guitar voice haha! Whatever you decide, hope you find a piano you are happy with and able to get back to practicing!
26:15 Small mistake: the P45 headphone 1/4" jack was written in the FP10 column on the second slide, the P45 is always shown with no audio jack on both slides.
Just came back from a store where I had the chance to play with both. I can't decide. Roland has superior feeling in the keys and better action but Yamaha's piano sound seemed richer to me and its speakers were definitely more powerful (at the max setting). The problem is FP-10 is now 20%+ more expensive without being 20% better overall.
@@holohulolo Not sure about passive speakers. You could definitely hook it up to a hi-fi or an amp using a m2m cable. I got my FP10 a few days ago and I currently have an audio cable going from the headphone socket on the piano to the line-in socket on my PC. Contrary to some reviews, the 2.5mm output is stereo.
Can't thank you enough for this awesome review. I was looking for an upgrade from my M-Audio semi-weighted MIDI controller to something that feels closer to an actual piano so that I can take my piano playing more seriously. You've sold me on the FP10 and it's on its way now! ;)
You're very welcome! Thank you so much for taking the time to tune in! We appreciate it. We're also happy to hear that our reviews/comparisons helped you narrow things down to the FP10. It is a wonderful piano and I know you will be thrilled with its excellent touch and tone. It is one of the best values on the market considering the fantastic action is provides. :)
Hey Stu, really beautiful playing! I agree with you 100% on the Roland FP1 being a major standout in this price range. After 20+ years of playing acoustic pianos and higher-end keyboards, my jaw dropped when I heard it. One thing though: have you noticed the price creeping up on the FP1 and down on the P45? I'm sad to say it, but it seems like the market is correcting itself and the price point on the FP1 is moving closer to $600+, where the P45 can be found for around $400-450.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for writing in! We appreciate it. The Roland FP10 presents an amazing cost-to-value ratio and it is very difficult to compete with given its price point. With that said, I suppose it is inevitable for there to be a bit of inflation happening on the price due to the general market's fluctuation as well as the growing popularity of this model.
Thank you for making this video. Truly appreciate your expertise and value how you played for 20-30 seconds at a time to hear the tones. Very good analysis from a true professional. Much much appreciated this review. Thanks again!
I've to decide between the Yamaha p45 and Roland FP10. I’m just interested in the good quality keys and accurate midi signals via a usb connection. Things to consider - I’m getting the p45 150$ cheaper than the fp10 - Not interested in a midi controller as I don’t want all those knobs and stuff. Just want those high-quality hammer action keys as I’m a beginner and I want to learn on it like I was playing a real acoustic piano - Need an accurate Midi signal. Can’t compromise on that as I’m going to be using it with a lot of vst’s. Right around the 19:05 mark you said “the p45 is a double sensor so it doesn’t particularly deliver accurate midi output”. how bad is it? because this little thing is going to cost me 150 dollars. So basically, I want a midi controller with 88 hammer action keys for less than 500$ without the knobs, mod wheels and all that stuff that I could practice on and also learn to play a real piano. Help :’(
i have two cheap midi controllers (and an acoustic piano), both with double sensors, and while i'm not a professional or anything, i can get a decent amount of control with them. i do feel it could be better though. and honestly, i expect this to be a lot better than my controllers even with double sensor. i'd still go for the roland if i was able to. but it's outside my budget and it has terrible availability (so the price gets pushed up). i'll just get the p125 instead since that's better than the p45 and readily available anywhere.
Great video, and even better playing! You demonstrate many styles of playing here, and each is appropriate for the synthesized instrument sound you're demonstrating. Nice jazz work, too! I'm an old keyboard player, myself, who started on accordion in 1958, played rock & roll and country music in the '60's, then disco on Fender Rhodes + Micro-Moog, in the '70's, then went totally synth, and never looked back. Yet, now retired, I wouldn't trade my Otto Altenburg grand piano for a zillion bucks. Real pianos let you express things that electronic ones cannot, but electronic ones have their "cool-sounds." I think both are valuable tools for a creative mind.
Thank you kindly! I definitely agree with your sentiments. Acoustic and digital instruments offer very different things. Simply put, they're ultimately different tools for different jobs, which skilled musicians can utilize to great effect. :)
The presenter is spectacular, Apart from clearly being an accomplished musician, his presentation skills are excellent.. Throw in quality of the setting, the sound and video, is 2nd to none. Quite simply this sets the standard the standard for comparison reviews..I have been looking at the FP10, and this just sealed the deal for me.
Thank you so much! We're so happy to hear that you found our videos useful. We sincerely appreciate you tuning in and sharing your kind words. Thanks again! :)
As an owner of FP-10, clicking noise or tynnie beannie noise it has from the first day didn’t bother me at all but the tone the sound is hard to tolerate. It sounds like coming from narrow tunnel. I didn’t like Yamaha’s bright tone but on this YT comparison FP-10 sounds better but I couldn’t find any FP at the local guitar center or Sam Ash Music. So I bought I took the risk. I hope someday I become liking the tone sound of FP. By the way I really liked F-710. But when I have more money I will get DGX-670 though.
Unfortunately here in India, the diff in pricing between the fp10 and the p45 is about 160 dollars when converted from Indian rupees....pricing wise the fp10 is a lot closer to the p125 than it is to the p45 with a diff of a little under 40 dollars....p125 being more.
Hey, I am from India as well. I am gonna buy my very first digital beginner as a beginner.. p45 and fp10 are my last two choices( budget wise also) After watching multiple videos I guess the fp10 is a better option. But the pricing difference is huge :(
Most important thing for my situation. This factor is not talked about too much, so it's great to hear about it here, but now, as a producer, I want to know about an 88-key keyboard with good action and great MIDI.
Arghhh I already bought p45 and very disappointed with its midi performance. The highest possible velocity goes only up to 90 instead of 127. I'm going to return it to the store and buy a dedicated midi controller instead. Could you advise any device in this price range?
I can't recommend the Roland FP-10 enough! It's a great digital piano and an extremely good deal at $500 USD. I've also had a P45 in my possession and while I believe it's an awesome digital piano for beginners, it should be sold at a lower price. I've also got a sound demo of the FP-10 on my channel to help people decide!
@@TheSunIsMyDestroyer not sure. Here it was. Only knock on it is you can get a key pressing sound that is noticeable on harpsichord that isn’t noticeable on piano.
I am one of those looking to use a digital piano with a DAW so the reference to the double sensor of the yamaha was very useful, I think I am sold on getting an Fp-10, interesting to see the apparent difference between an x stand and the cabinet style stand with the roland. I may not have the piano out all the time and so the cabinet style stands wouldn't suit that but the stability difference is really clear. Thanks for the in-depth review.
If you choose the Roland, and you probably will, make sure it's got a warranty. The keys will start clicking and you will be driven absolutely nuts. I am on my 2nd FP10, and my 3rd keybed, as it's just had it replaced. They didn't even try to repair it, had to order a new one from Japan. It's not just a grease issue. Roland's quality has sunk to embarrassingly low standards. Also, fast repetitions are pretty impossible on the PHA-4. And finally, Roland uses stretched tuning which doesn't really work on a digital piano and which can't be turned off. Great playing and review btw 🙏
Same...had 2 fp10....finally exhanged it for a yamaha p125....hope it doesnt make clicking noise as fast as the fp10...or no clicking at all....fp10 developped clicking noise 2 weeks after buying both...
I currently have the Yamaha PSR E403. I've had it for around 7 years (still not great in the slightest) since I was 12, so I wanted to upgrade to an 88 key piano and actually learn to use a weighted piano. I'm really stuck between the FP10 and the P45, because they both sound amazing and because they are the best sounding out of the beginner 88 keys. I like to play emotional pieces so I'm looking for a good piano that can enhance those feelings. When comparing the two sound wise, I really love the FP10. I personally love the deep and mellow sounds, but I've heard from people who have owned the FP10 that they experience clicking keys(?) and other Issues with their keys as time went on, so its holding me back a bit. I've been to a nearby music store and they only have the P45 sadly, so it's the only one I've got to try. The price for a P45 where I live is $450 on its own, while the FP10 is $600 on its own. There are bundles where the P45 has a stand, bench and headphones for around $600 as well, so its tempting to get that. I was leaning towards the P45 since its more cheaper, but when I really got into researching both pianos, I think I'm leaning towards the FP10 based on the sound and bluetooth function. I'm still unsure though, so I'm gonna keep researching both pianos.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much for writing in! The FP10 is a very difficult piano to beat at this price category. The PHA4 action is exceptional and one of the heavier and more authentic actions on the market right now at the entry-level class. In our experiences, the PHA4 action is extremely reliable and seldom do we see issues with clicking keys or warranty claims regarding the action. At the end of the day though, it really comes down to a matter of personal preference. :)
Wish the FP10 came with 1/4" out, but thanks for telling us. I still might get one but 2 years later it's $200 more. I used to like the crisp sound like the Yamaha, but never heard them together until now. One comment is I'd prefer hearing all piano voices played exactly the same. For me, it's the best way to hear the difference. The clutter that comes with different tunes is I can't place the individual voices because they're different pieces, played differently. I adore you and your videos; they've been a great help and I simply enjoy watching you and them. Of course I "liked" and "subscribed" a long time ago!
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thank you for supporting our channel and subscribing! We really appreciate it. The FP10 is quite the instrument given its size and price point. While there is no dedicated "line out", the headphone output can still be used to take an audio line out. It may just have a slightly quieter signal. Also, we appreciate your feedback. I will be sure to pass it along to Stu and the production team. In a lot of cases, Stu is improvising when demoing the piano, so, as you can imagine, it may be hard to get an exact duplication of the performance on each piano. With that said, the exciting thing about improvising is that one reacts to the sound they're hearing and, with a player as talented as Stu, works to bring out the most out of the instrument through this interaction. :)
Excellent review! I myself have a Casio PX560, and would not have needed to watch this video were it not for a friend of mine wanting to buy a more or less entry level digital piano. Anyway, I'm glad I watched it. I've seen other of your reviews and you always do a thorough and apparently unbiased job, imho. So, thanks for posting stuff! Thumbs up and subscribed!
We are in the same boat, I cannot even find it in my country. However, I was able to find it on sale at www.thomann.de. It's not available right now, but it says that it will be available in one week for instant delivery.
Great review on these 2 products! Have been looking around for digital pianos and it has been quite challenged to decide on which is better when comparing one over the other. This review finally sealed the deal. Thanks!
Really enjoyed this comparison it was spot on in my view I have personally played both the Roland fp10 and the p45 from yamaha and I could never quite put my finger on what I didn't like about the p45. It's a complicated and somewhat subjective preference but. I just don't like playing the yamaha! On the other hand I can play the fp10 all day!
Samuel I'm; I actually developed interest in both instruments from your video presentation. Are these really good for beginner piano and keyboard players as well? How much does each cost?
I should you that I very thankfull for your review, they are so honest and objety. Because of you I often for a FP10 and I have no regrets, its perfect for me! Thanl you!!
Love the video! Great class in explaining the differences. I was about to buy Yamaha but three additional extras in Roland are much more convincing. I am glad that you also recommend doing further research.
Thanks so much! We're glad you enjoyed it. The Roland FP10 is a spectacular piano with, arguably, the very best touch available at this price point. I think you will be very happy with the choice. :)
No doubt the FP-10 sounds better and plays better, unfortunately the two I tried developed very noisy keys in a very short time. I really loved mine until the keys started to get very noisy. I thought I must have got a defective one so I returned it for another and found that it too developed the same noises. It appears that the action depends on very thick sticky grease to keep the parts quiet and as soon as it all gets squeezed out and/or dried up the keys become very noisy. I got some Roland action grease and was able to quiet the second one down but it only lasts for a short time, especially if you play it hard. A couple rounds of Chopin Etudes and it's clicking away again. If you can stand noisy keys I guess it's the better choice, but I warn you, you can hear the keys even with headphones on!
@@Marian_M.P I have owned the p45 and p125 and they both have developed loud clicky keys so I think it's just a problem with digital pianos in general. I am planning on getting this fp10 soon so im sad to see it has same problem.
Thank you so much! I am a piano teacher helping several adult student purchase and this was so informative. I have a Yamaha Clavinova next to my Kawai grand in the studio though I'm very keen to test out the RolandFP10. Great and informative video. Thank you!
You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in! We really appreciate it. The Roland FP10 is a wonderful instrument for the money. The touch is fantastic, but, the only limitation to consider for teaching purposes is the fact that it does not have triple pedal capabilities.
@@MerriamPianos Totally. I noticed that though for a beginner I would far rather the 88 weighted keys with decent piano action to a subpar instrument. A good "starter" piano, right(o; Do you ship across Canada by chance?
I've had the Roland RD250, RD300, RD500, and now the RD600. I also have XP88. The biggest problem is the RD600 and XP88 keys keep breaking down. As if quality control has gone down. I talked a friend to buy a Roland FP10 which had the same key breakdown problems. I'm scared to death to buy another Roland and want to switch to a Yamaha. With my 600 and XP88 down I've been using my older SY99. I don't want to talk to a Roland dealer or the company itself. To the good of Roland, they replaced ALL the keys on my RD600.
Best comparison review out there... A deal breaker for me is the key texture, I tend to have sweaty hands and keys are the instrument-player contact surfaces.
Thanks so much! We appreciate the kind words. Having a key texture that you connect and feel comfortable with is definitely a "key" concern (pun intended) when selecting a digital piano! ;)
@@livinlikelarry6314 I’m in the UK. I bought online very easily and really cheaply with a package which included stand, stool, pedal and cover. It got delivered within 24 hours. I was more than impressed. I don’t understand why you can’t find one in the US.
Great video and a great review. THanks!! I was set on the P45 but your review pushed me to the Roland. As others have noted, too bad its unavailable (at least as far as I can tell). :-(
I really want to start in a few weeks with learning to play the e-piano and I’ve researched which e-piano I should buy as a total beginner. Thank you so much for this insightful and objective review. Thumbs up
You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in! We're very glad to hear that you found the reviews helpful in your process. Thanks again and happy playing! :)
You will probably make a 25$ keyboard sound good. Thanks for the in depth review. I also really like they way you show the different specs. My roland fp10 is arriving soon 😀
Congratulations on your Roland FP10! They are wonderful pianos and I know you will be very happy with what it offers musically! :) Also, thank you kindly for tuning in! I totally agree. Stu is an amazing player and definitely proves the notion that "tone is in the fingers".
@@MerriamPianos You were absolutely right. What an incredible instrument. I'm only a beginner and never played anything that sounds and feels that good. I made the right choice for sure.
I'm hesitant with Roland in general since I had bad luck with products failing over a rather short amount of time. Also given that the FP 10 now is 30% more expensive than the Yamaha and the Yamaha has Audio out via USB as well, we went with the P45.
Costco has the FRP-1 bundle for $650 with a 5 year parts (2 year labor) warranty, so I went with that. Haven't tried the feature yet, but the FP-10 board does have USB audio in and out if as well if Bluetooth isn't your cup of tea.
This review is on point. I am just starting to make my dreams come true by learning how to play the piano and looking into these two specific brands. I would definitely go for Roland, I’ve worked so hard over the years to save for this and I will not let this pandemic stop me from making my way into a pianist someday. Thank you, Sir!
Best of luck, and thanks for sharing your journey to your piano!
I agree. I’ve been looking at the two pianos for about a month now and this video helped me finally make a decision. Going with the Roland.
@@Gundam-bruh did you get the Roland FP10? how its been?
@@morF1ni sure did. I can’t say anything that was already said in the video other than I don’t regret buying it at all. It’s a great piano for me, as a beginner that is taking my learning seriously.
Yo, 2yrs later how are you getting on?
This channel is underrated. I bought a FP10 a few months ago, and I am completely in love with it. I've seen so many videos from other reviewers, comparisons, etc. and they are nowhere near as complete as this one.
We really appreciate that incredible review! Thanks so much for the kind words and for supporting our channel! Enjoy your new Roland FP10! :)
Is the action noisy? How it holding up after a year? Thanks.
@@scarsstitches636After almost two years using it, I can confidently say it's an amazing product for the price range. The action is quite good (it's not perfect, obviously) and doesn't make too much noise (although you can hear the keys a little after some use). If you just started playing, I wouldn't second guess it and buy it. If you're used to an acoustic however, I would suggest looking into something like the FP-90X or similar, which has better action and overall quality.
Coming from a Thoman DP Arranger, the Roland FP-10 is a beast. Doubt you'll find anything better at this price.
Hope it helps!
I loved your playing more than the review itself, with your talent you could make any instruments sounds like heaven.
I thinks it good example to just start learn with whatever instrument available to you..
Yamaha P-45 Piano test : 3:27 4:00 5:30 7:24 7:45 11:30 18:06 18:58 19:49
Yamaha P-45 E Piano sound test : 7:57 8:10
Roland FP-10 Piano test : 0:45 11:18 11:45 13:01 14:00 21:19 22:25
Roland FP-10 E Piano sound test : 14:43
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Thank you very much
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If anyone is looking for so more sound tests, I have a blind test of the Yamaha P45 vs. Roland FP10 on my channel to help people decide :).
been looking for yamaha p45 the whole week and couldn’t find one online in my region, I think people start to find piano as hobby during quarantine (n I’m sooo late 😂). n now after watching this I’m starting to eye on Roland 😶🤷♀️
Yeah they all skyrocketed in price
I just found a Roland fp10 for retail but it was back ordered so I won’t get it for 3 weeks 🙁
If you wait a year or so, a lot of ppl will be selling them, those who quit. :-)
Yamaha p45 instead of roland, you will love the yamaha because of the touch of the keys and better quality sounds
@@bryanromoleroux3531 Dude.... please.
If we're talking about p125 we can argue (barely, as PHA4 is far better than GHS), but P45 sound? really?
Context: A year ago I've buyed a P515 with NWX and CFX+Boesendorfer... and just can't leave my old FP-30.
P45 is option only if cheaper, even Casio Privias are better options in sound and mechanics.
This review is outstanding. You really know what you're talking about. And I love how you consider more professional usage. Bought the FP10, and I'm really looking forward to practice again after 6 years of abstinence .
Thanks so much! We appreciate you taking the time to check out our video and share your very kind words! All the best and happy playing! :)
exactly the man is a specialist for real.
11:45 After playing the P45 again and comparing it right away to the FP10... that's it. I'm sold on the Roland... SERIOUSLY! Most informative comparison ever. Thank you!
Did you buy it? And is it still fully functional?
Hi. Is your roland have a clicking issue?
One of the best reviews I've ever seen on literally ANY product.
Outstanding
I am very impressed with this man’s analysis an explanations with great examples. I am not a pianist, but hope to learn soon in retirement. As a guitarist, knowing your instruments can bring a great deal of confidence and encouragement. This review is excellent from my vantage point. Thank you sir, it is clear that you know your instruments intimately.
Somehow, despite the Roland apparently having a more complex sound and ways to customize it, the Yamaha still sounds more like a real piano to me. As a classically-trained pianist, I look for sound that satisfies the ear and "tricks" it into believing it's an acoustic piano (because that's what I'm used to), and Roland just doesn't manage to do that. I used to have a standing piano from Roland as a kid, and it just couldn't compare to even the cheap acoustic standing pianos that my music school could afford.
I'd say that the Roland might be a better choice for someone looking into playing less classical music and more jazz/pop/funk/etc. However, I think the Yamaha is superior for someone classically trained.
IOW the Yamaha has more snob appeal.
Umm. No . You sound like Yamaha paid troll.
Wonder Why don't u choose roalnd if you are a classical pianist.. I'm a classical pianist and love the roland for that, the warm and dynamic tone makes it perfect for sound classical.. Mean while The bright sound of yamaha with a thinner tone makes it sound worst for classical
@@Merlin_Chhana4 how abt kawaik300 or yamahaU1 upright , which is better for classical music?🥰🎶🙏
I do love the sound of the Yamaha too. I tend to agree with this comment. I like the simplicity of it too
FINALLY! A genuine, authentic, unbiased review from an authentic professional!
Thanks a lot for this wonderful video!
Best.comparaison. Review. Ever.
THX a lot. Hope to see more of these reviews =)
I came into this review thinking "I wish there was a clear indication of which one is superior" and as I listened along till the 10:40 minute mark and the presenter said "I try to be as objective as possible in these reviews but the FP-10 blows the P-45 away in almost every aspect" I found my answer. It could not have been more apparent.
In some cases, it is tough to be completely subjective (especially in the case of the FP10, which greatly outperforms its price tag). :)
@@MerriamPianos Thanks. Great review by the way. I actually have my eyes set on the Roland FP-30X but before I go there I wanted to assess whether I am missing something by not considering Yamahas. This video tells me I am not
As an owner of Roland FP10, I feel the need to provide this feedback: I think soundwise it is not bad, but not too particular good
But most important issue is the clicking noises I start to get from some keys. Apparently I am not the one with this issue. Just wanted to provide this feedback to potential buyers.
If I could buy a new one, I would go with a more proven model like P45
Were that clicks present from start or appeared later? It's a known assembly problem of first parties of instuments. Later the problem was fixed. At least. according to what I see in shops and from reviews.
Thanks I'm just about to order the p45
I just brought the FP10 after looking at the Yamaha and casio 1000 in the shop. The Roland’s keys are far more realistic than the Yamaha and that swung it for me
I have no clicking noises.
P45 / 125 is lower leagues compared to piano tone and feel. looks like you are yamaha paid troll.
Thank you so much for this! I had a grand piano for for 20 years living with my parents but I’ve moved out and I now live in a smaller apartment so I can’t house a massive grand piano anymore. But I am looking into one of these guys to give me a similar grand piano feel so thank you for this!
Im in the same situation ! Which piano did you finaly Get ?
I love both Yamaha and Roland; their philosophies diverge a bit; Roland knows funk a little more than Yamaha, but mechanical action noise (never a problem in chest-beating loudness music) increases after a year or two of passionate playing in either case. I have eliminated most action noise by replacing felt that gets packed down. The tonal difference between FP-30 and P-45 is a total subjective call...to me, the Roland grand piano tone sounded a little French, with certain midrange harmonics emphasized. The Yamaha piano waveform is neutral, and consistent through all octaves. ...and very responsive to touch, even in a starter-version instrument.
For funk Rhodes patches, I have to say Roland understands funk more deeply. Ya gotta work with what ya got!
And oh men, everybody needs those Rhodes patches hahahahah you can play with your feet and it would sound great anyways
Peter Moffitt: What you say makes good sense. Rolands work well on stage, which is maybe why they've put a better effort into their true stage pianos (the RD series) up until now at least. Suddenly, with the 30/60/90X models the FP pianos have jumped a huge step IMO. Maybe there will be an FP10X too. Hope so, for the sake of tomorrow's newbies to DPs.
Meanwhile, those who just want to play straight piano on a DP tend to choose Yamaha or Kawai, it seems.
@petermoffitt You said about mechanical action noice which I don't want even after a year because I will not buy another digital piano and it's expensive... So Which is better to buy Roland or Yamaha pls answer I have seen some yt they said that Roland has issues..
@@xevivr For the best action at a low price, maybe buy the Korg D1. It's got no speakers, and few frills, but it's got one of Korg's better actions. Unlike most of the cheaper portable pianos, it has a (simple) screen and MIDI Legacy connections. It cannot split the keyboard into two voices and it is a bit heavy, but will probably last longer than other pianos under US $1200. The patches/tones are PCM. In a sense, it's a poor man's stage piano.
In another thread about this video I said that the P45 has a reasonable action (GHS) for the price, and it's true. But Stu said somewhere that he gets tired quickly while playing the GHS action. Borrowing a P45 earlier this year, I found it frustrating when it could not keep up on my jazz arpeggios - indeed, its usefulness depends a lot on your playing style and how advanced you are.
I don't like the old (pre-X) FP range, because it's too far from my concept of a pianistic action-sound response. I also dislike the exaggerated note shape and the weakness in the mids, but some of this is editable. I found these things very annoying on the FP50, but I expect less of a cheaper piano like the FP10. NB many people love the old FPs, and at these starter piano prices we shouldn't complain too much. I wouldn't worry too much about the supposed increasing key noise. Speed and fluidity of action are much more important issues IMO.
@@Zoco101 thanks for your kind information and sharing experience ❣️
I'm hanging around waiting for my Roland FP-10 order to be fulfilled from my local music shop (in the UK). You've actively helped me not just buckle and ask them to swap it for the P-45 I know they have. Such a well-planned, thought-through and excellently presented video. Thanks :)
You're very welcome Jacob! We're happy to hear that the video was helpful in your decision making process. The Roland FP10 offers an excellent playing experience, especially considering its attractive price. I am quite confident that you will find it to be well worth the wait! Enjoy the FP10 once it arrives! :)
Once you've tried Roland hammer action feel there's no going back. The tones also stand out. Rich and realistic
It is hard to disagree with that sentiment! The Roland PHA4 action featured on the FP10 is exceptional (especially for the attractive price point of the FP10)! :)
I saw the one, Roland at Costco and I was amazed. And it felt liking playing a piano. I used rent Baldwin pianos to practice. The feel is as important as the sound.
There's a used P-45 in the classifieds for just over $300, but I'm going to hold out for the Roland thanks to this video.
Where it’s 500 everywhere right now
Nvm just found a Roland at b and h
Would it be better me getting rid of my yamaha grand, for roland piano
I have an accoustic piano at home, but I just ordered this from Amazon after months' of deliberation. I live in a townhouse, and my neighbor has been working from home in this pandemic and rarely leaves home. This keyboard is scheduled to arrive in a few days, and I'm super excited to be able to practice any time of the day/night!!
Grace Lee Which of the two did you buy? Still happy with it?
Such a fantastic objectively done review and comparison.
I do you know it was objective? You don't know this guy.
That was so brutally honest. Loved it.
As an aged beginner, I just enjoy your presentation of styles. (Love the ragtime!)
Thank you kindly! We're glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching! (We love the ragtime bits as well :) -LP
Such comprehensive and professional demo on these two digital pianos. It's really helpful for parents shopping for beginners level pianos for children. Thanks!
It is so refreshing to finally hear someone with a good touch that can actually play well do this.
I go with Roland FP10. I'm through with Yamaha P45. Also, the keyboard player is awesome. Maybe it depends on the player why those two instruments sounds good..
For anyone who wants to see the potential of the Yamaha p45 please check out this guy.. he’s a pretty awesome pianist..
patrik pietschmann
wattt he uses a p45???
@@sisikiteou2084 I did not know either! Definitely going with the p 45 in that case!
He uses a p45? How does he do the lights on the piano :0 you made me buy the p45 than the f110 :D
I was dabbling with these and couldn't find a good comparison for tones and such. This video helped tremendously, and I'll definitely buy the Roland :)
You won't love the action.
Can you give me a small review on it? I plan on buying it as well.
@@DanyaalShaozab Don't buy it!
@@Pe6ek Why mate?..., please be more detailed in your warning alert!. Thanks!.
About P45 lack of bluetooth, there are a some USB to Bluetooth adapters you can connect to it so you smartphone/tablet will also be free of any cable.
I have the Yamaha P45 and as a beginner playing since 6 months, I'm more than satisfied. I guess Yamaha is substantially cheaper than the Roland for the sound it produces. As a beginner, terms like resonance and polyphony won't matter much as your focus would be on getting the notes right from the piano sheet 😉 So IMHO, a lower spec piano like Yamaha would be better so that when u get better at playing, you have something more high spec to upgrade to which will be far more exciting as you would be more seasoned by then to comprehend these terms.Btw, Yamaha sounds quite good actually.
I’m going from a 60 euros plastic keys and shitty sound, so I can’t complain about anything when i’ll upgrade.
@@balladin9200 😂😂😂
@@balladin9200 me too 😅
I'm a beginner as well and confused between p45 & CDP s100, any tips? Also, could you tell me how you started learning using the P45, is there any app compatible with it?
@@RamanSharma-zk1bj CDP sucks big time. P45 us better but fp10 is better than both.
Superb review, no stand-up comedy, just useful facts, great playing and informed opinion, with a decisive conclusion. Perfect! Thanks for the care and attention!
Thank you for the kind words and thank you so much for tuning in! It is very much appreciated! :)
@@MerriamPianos You might like to know that I bought an FP10 as a result of the review, very pleased so far, no unnecessary complications, sounds great, job done. I wish I had been able to buy from your company but I am In Turkiye now and it would have been complicated! Thanks again for a great contribution to the keyboard world!
Thank you so much for this review! I am a classical pianist who is accustomed to Yamaha Clavinovas for digital practice and MIDI use. I have to rent a keyboard for a few months due to a temporary move, and if it wasn’t for this video I would have gone with the Yamaha purely out of brand bias. Thanks for opening my eyes and making the differences between these instruments easier to understand!
Thanks for you detailed and informative review :) I ended up purchasing Roland FP10 and I'm really excited to get back into playing the piano :)
Jennifer Noye how’s it coming along?
@jennifer how its going?
I just bought the roland, I will get it tomorrow, I am so excited to play it, let's see if the quality sound is good
Hope you enjoy it!
How is it?
The FP10 is discontinued at ZZ Sounds and th FP30 is $699
and? noticed any clicking noises?
This is one of the best reviews / comparisons I have ever seen. I really appreciate how thorough you were, and I like that there was a mix of honest objectivity and subjectivity. This video made up my mind for me. Thanks again!
This is the best review I have seen so far on these keyboards. You answered every question I had and more. Having worked with many of the best keyboard players in the business since the late 70's, I must say you have some really good chops. Thanks for a great review.
This video was very helpful in making my choice of digital pianos (candidates were Roland FP10 and Yamaha P125A, which is on sale for almost the same price as P45 in Sept 2023). I took my piano teacher to the local music store and we both played both pianos before deciding on the Roland FP10. Great job on recording the sound so that I could really (with my good studio headphones) hear the differences.
Hi! Thanks so much for your kind words! We're glad to hear that the video was helpful. Congrats on deciding on the amazing Roland FP10! It is a fantastic instrument with a great touch and tone. I know you will be pleased with what it offers musically. :)
i own a FP10 and it is so accurate on the review. i have tried out both instruments before getting them. However the biggest win for FP10 is the ivory feel, the feel is amazeballs
do you still have the roland fp 10? I want to buy it but I have heard that the keys get very loud over time.
same question
ElNumero Primo - Ive had it for 6 months now and the keys are the same as when I purchased the piano. No loud sound overtime whatsoever.
Hi hows your fp10 now? Do you have any issues with it? And hows the built in speakers as compared to the P45
Hi i read some comments that fp10 have a clicking issues, is that real?
A pleasure to listen to this very well structured, to the point review! Thank you!
The Roland FP 10 is the one I will get. Thanks for your advice
Subbed just for this guy. Best review I have ever seen of anything.
Thankyou for doing this review. I'm looking to getting back into playing after a very long absence of about 30yrs. I'm interested in the Yamaha but now i'm thinking about the Roland instead. Thankyou for opening my eyes to the Roland. Great review :-)
Same situation here of 20 years. I tried both at the music store and would agree the FP10 feels closer to playing a acoustic piano. I ended up choosing a higher end Yamaha for its authentic sounding guitar voice haha! Whatever you decide, hope you find a piano you are happy with and able to get back to practicing!
I was just deciding between these two pianos. Because of your video I'm going for the Roland FP10. Thanks for the excellent review! :)
You're very welcome! We're very happy to hear that you found our video helpful in your decision making process! :)
26:15 Small mistake: the P45 headphone 1/4" jack was written in the FP10 column on the second slide, the P45 is always shown with no audio jack on both slides.
Thank you for this. Long time Roland fan and I think you've helped me decide on my next piano.
I am using yamaha p45 for more than 3 yrs. Good review
Thank you so much! We appreciate that.
Just came back from a store where I had the chance to play with both. I can't decide. Roland has superior feeling in the keys and better action but Yamaha's piano sound seemed richer to me and its speakers were definitely more powerful (at the max setting). The problem is FP-10 is now 20%+ more expensive without being 20% better overall.
I dunno man. That scat voice makes up the 20% IMO :)
Is there an option for either model to connect it to external passive speakers?
@@holohulolo Not sure about passive speakers. You could definitely hook it up to a hi-fi or an amp using a m2m cable.
I got my FP10 a few days ago and I currently have an audio cable going from the headphone socket on the piano to the line-in socket on my PC. Contrary to some reviews, the 2.5mm output is stereo.
As soon as I get the money together I will be going with the Roland.
Good luck finding a Roland FP-10. I just bought a Yamaha P45 due to no availability of the Roland. I am happy nonetheless
I have the FP-10 😁
@@adonay.franco wanna sell😂
Can't thank you enough for this awesome review. I was looking for an upgrade from my M-Audio semi-weighted MIDI controller to something that feels closer to an actual piano so that I can take my piano playing more seriously. You've sold me on the FP10 and it's on its way now! ;)
You're very welcome! Thank you so much for taking the time to tune in! We appreciate it. We're also happy to hear that our reviews/comparisons helped you narrow things down to the FP10. It is a wonderful piano and I know you will be thrilled with its excellent touch and tone. It is one of the best values on the market considering the fantastic action is provides. :)
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Hey Stu, really beautiful playing! I agree with you 100% on the Roland FP1 being a major standout in this price range. After 20+ years of playing acoustic pianos and higher-end keyboards, my jaw dropped when I heard it. One thing though: have you noticed the price creeping up on the FP1 and down on the P45? I'm sad to say it, but it seems like the market is correcting itself and the price point on the FP1 is moving closer to $600+, where the P45 can be found for around $400-450.
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thanks for writing in! We appreciate it. The Roland FP10 presents an amazing cost-to-value ratio and it is very difficult to compete with given its price point. With that said, I suppose it is inevitable for there to be a bit of inflation happening on the price due to the general market's fluctuation as well as the growing popularity of this model.
Thank you for making this video. Truly appreciate your expertise and value how you played for 20-30 seconds at a time to hear the tones. Very good analysis from a true professional. Much much appreciated this review. Thanks again!
You're very welcome! We're very happy to hear that you enjoyed the video and found it helpful! :)
A perfect review without any unanswered questions. Great!
Thank you, Stu Harrison! Always excellent, unbiased presentation and superb playing. Love your reviews. 👍
I've to decide between the Yamaha p45 and Roland FP10. I’m just interested in the good quality keys and accurate midi signals via a usb connection.
Things to consider
- I’m getting the p45 150$ cheaper than the fp10
- Not interested in a midi controller as I don’t want all those knobs and stuff. Just want those high-quality hammer action keys as I’m a beginner and I want to learn on it like I was playing a real acoustic piano
- Need an accurate Midi signal. Can’t compromise on that as I’m going to be using it with a lot of vst’s.
Right around the 19:05 mark you said “the p45 is a double sensor so it doesn’t particularly deliver accurate midi output”. how bad is it? because this little thing is going to cost me 150 dollars.
So basically, I want a midi controller with 88 hammer action keys for less than 500$ without the knobs, mod wheels and all that stuff that I could practice on and also learn to play a real piano.
Help :’(
i have two cheap midi controllers (and an acoustic piano), both with double sensors, and while i'm not a professional or anything, i can get a decent amount of control with them. i do feel it could be better though. and honestly, i expect this to be a lot better than my controllers even with double sensor.
i'd still go for the roland if i was able to. but it's outside my budget and it has terrible availability (so the price gets pushed up). i'll just get the p125 instead since that's better than the p45 and readily available anywhere.
Thank you for the video.
The shaking of the whole unit itself would drive me crazy
they're only shaking cause of his keyboard stands.
Great video, and even better playing! You demonstrate many styles of playing here, and each is appropriate for the synthesized instrument sound you're demonstrating. Nice jazz work, too! I'm an old keyboard player, myself, who started on accordion in 1958, played rock & roll and country music in the '60's, then disco on Fender Rhodes + Micro-Moog, in the '70's, then went totally synth, and never looked back. Yet, now retired, I wouldn't trade my Otto Altenburg grand piano for a zillion bucks. Real pianos let you express things that electronic ones cannot, but electronic ones have their "cool-sounds." I think both are valuable tools for a creative mind.
Thank you kindly! I definitely agree with your sentiments. Acoustic and digital instruments offer very different things. Simply put, they're ultimately different tools for different jobs, which skilled musicians can utilize to great effect. :)
You’ve got the face of Jeremy Renner and the hands of Liberace. What a combo.
got an fp-10 about a year ago after trying both models. definitely very happy with the product
That's awesome! It's a fantastic digital piano and one of the best cost-to-value ratios on the market. :)
The presenter is spectacular, Apart from clearly being an accomplished musician, his presentation skills are excellent.. Throw in quality of the setting, the sound and video, is 2nd to none. Quite simply this sets the standard the standard for comparison reviews..I have been looking at the FP10, and this just sealed the deal for me.
Thank you so much! We're so happy to hear that you found our videos useful. We sincerely appreciate you tuning in and sharing your kind words. Thanks again! :)
As an owner of FP-10, clicking noise or tynnie beannie noise it has from the first day didn’t bother me at all but the tone the sound is hard to tolerate. It sounds like coming from narrow tunnel. I didn’t like Yamaha’s bright tone but on this YT comparison FP-10 sounds better but I couldn’t find any FP at the local guitar center or Sam Ash Music. So I bought I took the risk. I hope someday I become liking the tone sound of FP. By the way I really liked F-710. But when I have more money I will get DGX-670 though.
Thanks for this video - was going to go P45 but as a result of seeing this got the FP30X today. Thanks for the advice! 👍
Thank you for your thorough review. I've always been a Yamaha user, but you convinced me to seriously look into Roland also. (piano teacher)
Unfortunately here in India, the diff in pricing between the fp10 and the p45 is about 160 dollars when converted from Indian rupees....pricing wise the fp10 is a lot closer to the p125 than it is to the p45 with a diff of a little under 40 dollars....p125 being more.
Hey, I am from India as well. I am gonna buy my very first digital beginner as a beginner.. p45 and fp10 are my last two choices( budget wise also) After watching multiple videos I guess the fp10 is a better option. But the pricing difference is huge :(
Hello Friends! What about the clicking noise on fp10? Cause thats a deal breaker
19:40 thanks for pointing out that the Yamaha p45 doesn’t deliver particular accurate midi output to be used by DAW software.
Most important thing for my situation. This factor is not talked about too much, so it's great to hear about it here, but now, as a producer, I want to know about an 88-key keyboard with good action and great MIDI.
@@NathanielSkinnerMusic Arturia is great! I have the 88 keys MKii and 49key Essential. Both are great. The MKii delivers good hammer action.
@@NathanielSkinnerMusic heard good things about maudio hammer 88 & sl88 (both midi only)
Arghhh I already bought p45 and very disappointed with its midi performance. The highest possible velocity goes only up to 90 instead of 127. I'm going to return it to the store and buy a dedicated midi controller instead. Could you advise any device in this price range?
This is an excellent comparison & contrast. Thank you for the clarity & demonstration.
You're very welcome! Thank you for taking the time to tune in! :)
I can't recommend the Roland FP-10 enough! It's a great digital piano and an extremely good deal at $500 USD. I've also had a P45 in my possession and while I believe it's an awesome digital piano for beginners, it should be sold at a lower price.
I've also got a sound demo of the FP-10 on my channel to help people decide!
how much of a lower price?
Where did you find it for 500?
It was $300 at my local Costco. Bought one yesterday.
@@jeffstenerson4150 I'm just waiting for the Roland to hit $300 at Costco, is it on sale now? I'm in Florida.
@@TheSunIsMyDestroyer not sure. Here it was. Only knock on it is you can get a key pressing sound that is noticeable on harpsichord that isn’t noticeable on piano.
I am one of those looking to use a digital piano with a DAW so the reference to the double sensor of the yamaha was very useful, I think I am sold on getting an Fp-10, interesting to see the apparent difference between an x stand and the cabinet style stand with the roland. I may not have the piano out all the time and so the cabinet style stands wouldn't suit that but the stability difference is really clear. Thanks for the in-depth review.
Absolutely fantastic review. Amazingly comprehensive! Thank you for the video!!
If you choose the Roland, and you probably will, make sure it's got a warranty. The keys will start clicking and you will be driven absolutely nuts. I am on my 2nd FP10, and my 3rd keybed, as it's just had it replaced. They didn't even try to repair it, had to order a new one from Japan. It's not just a grease issue. Roland's quality has sunk to embarrassingly low standards. Also, fast repetitions are pretty impossible on the PHA-4. And finally, Roland uses stretched tuning which doesn't really work on a digital piano and which can't be turned off. Great playing and review btw 🙏
Same...had 2 fp10....finally exhanged it for a yamaha p125....hope it doesnt make clicking noise as fast as the fp10...or no clicking at all....fp10 developped clicking noise 2 weeks after buying both...
I currently have the Yamaha PSR E403. I've had it for around 7 years (still not great in the slightest) since I was 12, so I wanted to upgrade to an 88 key piano and actually learn to use a weighted piano. I'm really stuck between the FP10 and the P45, because they both sound amazing and because they are the best sounding out of the beginner 88 keys. I like to play emotional pieces so I'm looking for a good piano that can enhance those feelings. When comparing the two sound wise, I really love the FP10. I personally love the deep and mellow sounds, but I've heard from people who have owned the FP10 that they experience clicking keys(?) and other Issues with their keys as time went on, so its holding me back a bit.
I've been to a nearby music store and they only have the P45 sadly, so it's the only one I've got to try. The price for a P45 where I live is $450 on its own, while the FP10 is $600 on its own. There are bundles where the P45 has a stand, bench and headphones for around $600 as well, so its tempting to get that. I was leaning towards the P45 since its more cheaper, but when I really got into researching both pianos, I think I'm leaning towards the FP10 based on the sound and bluetooth function. I'm still unsure though, so I'm gonna keep researching both pianos.
Hi! Brent here! Thanks so much for writing in! The FP10 is a very difficult piano to beat at this price category. The PHA4 action is exceptional and one of the heavier and more authentic actions on the market right now at the entry-level class. In our experiences, the PHA4 action is extremely reliable and seldom do we see issues with clicking keys or warranty claims regarding the action. At the end of the day though, it really comes down to a matter of personal preference. :)
Tengo el fp30x hace un año, misma acción y no hace ruidos molestos si te sirve como referencia. Saludos desde Argentina.
Wish the FP10 came with 1/4" out, but thanks for telling us. I still might get one but 2 years later it's $200 more. I used to like the crisp sound like the Yamaha, but never heard them together until now. One comment is I'd prefer hearing all piano voices played exactly the same. For me, it's the best way to hear the difference. The clutter that comes with different tunes is I can't place the individual voices because they're different pieces, played differently. I adore you and your videos; they've been a great help and I simply enjoy watching you and them. Of course I "liked" and "subscribed" a long time ago!
Hi! Brent from Merriam Music here! Thank you for supporting our channel and subscribing! We really appreciate it. The FP10 is quite the instrument given its size and price point. While there is no dedicated "line out", the headphone output can still be used to take an audio line out. It may just have a slightly quieter signal. Also, we appreciate your feedback. I will be sure to pass it along to Stu and the production team. In a lot of cases, Stu is improvising when demoing the piano, so, as you can imagine, it may be hard to get an exact duplication of the performance on each piano. With that said, the exciting thing about improvising is that one reacts to the sound they're hearing and, with a player as talented as Stu, works to bring out the most out of the instrument through this interaction. :)
Excellent review! I myself have a Casio PX560, and would not have needed to watch this video were it not for a friend of mine wanting to buy a more or less entry level digital piano. Anyway, I'm glad I watched it. I've seen other of your reviews and you always do a thorough and apparently unbiased job, imho. So, thanks for posting stuff! Thumbs up and subscribed!
if only the roland fp10 wasn't sold out everywhere i look. It's the one piano i really like and i cannot find a single website selling it.
We are in the same boat, I cannot even find it in my country. However, I was able to find it on sale at www.thomann.de. It's not available right now, but it says that it will be available in one week for instant delivery.
As usual, informative and comprehensive. Great content Stu!
I also appreciate that you spend the time writing a summary in the video description.
Great review on these 2 products! Have been looking around for digital pianos and it has been quite challenged to decide on which is better when comparing one over the other. This review finally sealed the deal. Thanks!
You're very welcome! We're glad to hear that the comparison helped you through your decision making process. :)
P-45 YAMAHA MY FAVORITE. HI FROM CULIACÁN MÉXICO
That was an awesome review! Directly to the point and with the musician in mind. Thank you so much for helping me make my decision :)
Really enjoyed this comparison it was spot on in my view I have personally played both the Roland fp10 and the p45 from yamaha and I could never quite put my finger on what I didn't like about the p45. It's a complicated and somewhat subjective preference but. I just don't like playing the yamaha! On the other hand I can play the fp10 all day!
Samuel I'm; I actually developed interest in both instruments from your video presentation. Are these really good for beginner piano and keyboard players as well? How much does each cost?
Probably the escapement simulation on the FP-10 that the P45 doesn't have?
I should you that I very thankfull for your review, they are so honest and objety. Because of you I often for a FP10 and I have no regrets, its perfect for me! Thanl you!!
Love the video! Great class in explaining the differences. I was about to buy Yamaha but three additional extras in Roland are much more convincing. I am glad that you also recommend doing further research.
Thanks so much! We're glad you enjoyed it. The Roland FP10 is a spectacular piano with, arguably, the very best touch available at this price point. I think you will be very happy with the choice. :)
No doubt the FP-10 sounds better and plays better, unfortunately the two I tried developed very noisy keys in a very short time. I really loved mine until the keys started to get very noisy. I thought I must have got a defective one so I returned it for another and found that it too developed the same noises. It appears that the action depends on very thick sticky grease to keep the parts quiet and as soon as it all gets squeezed out and/or dried up the keys become very noisy. I got some Roland action grease and was able to quiet the second one down but it only lasts for a short time, especially if you play it hard. A couple rounds of Chopin Etudes and it's clicking away again. If you can stand noisy keys I guess it's the better choice, but I warn you, you can hear the keys even with headphones on!
what keyboard do you suggest for a low budget
Yes my p125 get noisy keys in time .... But I bet every digital pianos at this prices has this problem in Time if it's played hard
@@Marian_M.P I have owned the p45 and p125 and they both have developed loud clicky keys so I think it's just a problem with digital pianos in general. I am planning on getting this fp10 soon so im sad to see it has same problem.
Excellent thorough comparison, with description and links. Thank you very much! Subscribed!
Thank you so much! I am a piano teacher helping several adult student purchase and this was so informative. I have a Yamaha Clavinova next to my Kawai grand in the studio though I'm very keen to test out the RolandFP10. Great and informative video. Thank you!
You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in! We really appreciate it. The Roland FP10 is a wonderful instrument for the money. The touch is fantastic, but, the only limitation to consider for teaching purposes is the fact that it does not have triple pedal capabilities.
@@MerriamPianos Totally. I noticed that though for a beginner I would far rather the 88 weighted keys with decent piano action to a subpar instrument. A good "starter" piano, right(o; Do you ship across Canada by chance?
I've had the Roland RD250, RD300, RD500, and now the RD600. I also have XP88. The biggest problem is the RD600 and XP88 keys keep breaking down. As if quality control has gone down. I talked a friend to buy a Roland FP10 which had the same key breakdown problems. I'm scared to death to buy another Roland and want to switch to a Yamaha. With my 600 and XP88 down I've been using my older SY99. I don't want to talk to a Roland dealer or the company itself. To the good of Roland, they replaced ALL the keys on my RD600.
How about Yamaha? Does it has the same problem?
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Sorry, what does "breaking down" mean in this context? Do they start producing a clicky sound or just stop working completly?
Best comparison review out there... A deal breaker for me is the key texture, I tend to have sweaty hands and keys are the instrument-player contact surfaces.
Thanks so much! We appreciate the kind words. Having a key texture that you connect and feel comfortable with is definitely a "key" concern (pun intended) when selecting a digital piano! ;)
Great review, thanks. I’m going for the FP-10
Were you able to get one? I can't find them available anywhere in North America
@@livinlikelarry6314 I’m in the UK. I bought online very easily and really cheaply with a package which included stand, stool, pedal and cover. It got delivered within 24 hours. I was more than impressed. I don’t understand why you can’t find one in the US.
Great video and a great review. THanks!! I was set on the P45 but your review pushed me to the Roland. As others have noted, too bad its unavailable (at least as far as I can tell). :-(
My first piano today. 😊 My choice? Roland fp10 of course👍Like Roland Garros, there's just one ❤️
I really want to start in a few weeks with learning to play the e-piano and I’ve researched which e-piano I should buy as a total beginner. Thank you so much for this insightful and objective review. Thumbs up
You're very welcome! Thank you for tuning in! We're very glad to hear that you found the reviews helpful in your process. Thanks again and happy playing! :)
You will probably make a 25$ keyboard sound good. Thanks for the in depth review. I also really like they way you show the different specs. My roland fp10 is arriving soon 😀
Congratulations on your Roland FP10! They are wonderful pianos and I know you will be very happy with what it offers musically! :)
Also, thank you kindly for tuning in! I totally agree. Stu is an amazing player and definitely proves the notion that "tone is in the fingers".
@@MerriamPianos You were absolutely right. What an incredible instrument. I'm only a beginner and never played anything that sounds and feels that good. I made the right choice for sure.
Today i bought the p 45 yamaha and i love it. Both are nice pianos
@@eliasbelloso6136 That's nice. I was also considering the p45. I think you can't go wrong on either.
Wow this is comprehensive
Amazing review... I'm deciding to buy one and as cliché as it might sound, this review genuinely helped me.
Thank you so much! We're so happy to hear that you found it helpful! :)
Great reviewwww!!!!! I owe u man! You convinced me to buy roland fp10🥺🤣
How is it so far?
How is it?
Any chance you could update on your experience? Much appreciated
How did you get a hold of one???
Can you please tell me if anything has broken on your piano for 9 months?
19:25 Thanks man! you're the only one to mention this! I'm looking for the best feeling just to use with vst's. Great Review!
Thank you kindly! We're so glad that you found the comparison helpful! :)
Thank you for those reviews. Great video and super informative. I did not realize how nice the Roland is. Buying it now.
Glad it was helpful!
How is it? Has the piano broken down somehow?
Man I'd like to play like that.
Many thanks for making my mind up regarding which of these to get my son as he starts lessons. Loved your playing by the way.
Thanks for tuning in! You're very welcome! We're happy to hear that the comparison was helpful. :)
I'm hesitant with Roland in general since I had bad luck with products failing over a rather short amount of time. Also given that the FP 10 now is 30% more expensive than the Yamaha and the Yamaha has Audio out via USB as well, we went with the P45.
Costco has the FRP-1 bundle for $650 with a 5 year parts (2 year labor) warranty, so I went with that. Haven't tried the feature yet, but the FP-10 board does have USB audio in and out if as well if Bluetooth isn't your cup of tea.
@@davidmoore1880 that's the way I purchased it! The roland is sold out or out of stock everywhere. Im glad Costco had it.
There is a reason why it is more expensive . Less features but better / more responsive tone and touch.
My FP10 is on the way and couldn’t feel more excited!
That's awesome! You'll love it!! -stu
Where did you find one they’re out of stock in the US from what I saw.
and? noticed any clicking noises?