@@M0tyxia Im team SH but watching Laezel enjoying Sun was Something Else. Theres no bad companion in this game, just dont kill them in first few fcking minutes xD
Funny thing is that she is better of dead than ascended in which she will also end up dead but the tyrant will absorb her and her people will still be enslaved but I assume the person who played in this video didn’t go to the creche😂
The murder knife is a nickname given to the dagger that multiple dragon age protagonists use to kill someone in a cutscene. Happens quite a few times in dragon age origins if you choose a "Kill them" option@@zeno6554
@@zeno6554 probably the knife you'd pull from your ass to kill people in dragon age games. Could also be referencing back when baldurs gate were bioware games. didn't play the first two
AC and HP isn't always the ability to just tank a blow in D&D, it's dodging, parrying, stamina. It's like stabbing a 5 ac with 1 hp when you aim for the right spot and they don't resist it, even with her armor. BG3 just sort of game-ifies the hits during combat.
crazy how it still pains me, even after not playing for weeks, to see lae'zel, or any of the characters hurt. Larian created a masterpiece with this game!
agreed, I was listening to apart of Karlach when she was talking about something and it sounded like she was gonna cry, it had me bawling behind the screen, I was like " damn it game what are you doing to me?!?!?!"
@YskarAlbumLuna Lowkey though, its much easier to kill them than hurt them if it makes sense I have no issues killing Karlach in some of my runs but god forbid I do something 'mean'
@@chriscornell8810respec her out of her mixed str/dex and just pick one. As it stands 13 is a measly +1 to hit before weapon enchantments, 16 on the otherhand is +3 to hit.
She just has bad stats, 13 DEX and 13 STR, which just gives her a measly +1 on all weapon attack rolls. Additionally, her starting cantrip targets enemies with a DEX save, and most enemies in Act 1 have high Dex (Goblins for example), so they have a good chance to avoid the damage.
must have shit stat planning if your Shadow heart misses...its called respecing and optimizing and making her a OP war cleric...better than majority of pure melee builds period.
Unfortunately, as far as D&D goes, that is the githyanki as a whole. The ones who broke away were the Githzerai, who had the mind to know that was all fucking bullshit. The Yanki hunt the zerai even now because of it.
@@THEGRUMPTRUCK I'm on my third playthrough and this is the first time Laezel is even alive to see level 4. So insufferable. And picking fights with Shadowheart, like she wants to die. I saved her ass twice now, not sure there will be a 3rd time.
It's like how I can't stand to see Shadowheart become a dark justistar. You just let them go....let them continue the cycle of abuse knowing they're being used, espically lae'zel, her whole people are being used....
@@023achilles on my 3rd playthrough , when they started fight in camp, my dice rolled 1 on convincing and i had to choose Shadowheart or Lae`zel. Usually i would quickreload this, but no this time. Green toad's corpse haunt me every time in camp lol
It is so funny that while you can absolutely turn Lae'zel into a good, modest, open minded, loving companions, many people held onto their judge and refused to save the poor delusional Githyanki girl.
I love angry lady I took my time in fact she was the first character I romanced. During my second playthrough I didn't take time to talk to her and didn't romance anyone, it felt so weird to have her so angry at me all the time. Currently doing a third playthrough and taking time to interact with her cause open-minded, loving La'zel better than close minded angry La'zel
I let Shadowheart kill her during the camp scene when they fought over the prism, because Lae'zel slut shamed me at the tiefling party when I had not romanced anyone or slept with anyone at that point. It's weird that the "mean" character even has a line like that in a game where all the companions are playersexual and there are several extra NPCs you can sleep with. Either way it left a bad taste in my mouth and now her body is at the bottom of the underdark lake. :) She's usually awesome, and she softens up a lot as you progress the game but why make her slut shame? GG Larian.
@kaopy she says that even if all u do is give wyll a little peck on the lips 😂😂 game is all about different perspectives and personalities I know crazy right? Some people are not ok with u being a garden tool 😂😂 Everyone should be open minded like halsin no that's not how the world works you learn to accept people's flaws and live with them not everyone is gonna be on board with how u live your life they can only accept it and move on
@@TheGeoCheese ? He literally asks for them to kill him. It would be like you fight side by side for 3 years with some one, then your mortal enemy shows up and helps you win a big fight, then you kill you brother in arm to save the mortal enemy lol.
@@Cobravenom69 Lae’zel calling the Prince a traitor is certainly not being grateful for what he sacrificed for the victory. Someone was going to have to take the fall. That wasn’t an option. The only choice they can make was who was going to be a mind flayer because no one was wanting to be a mind flayer in the first place. It became a necessity. And Lae’zel disrespected that sacrifice. Hope you’re following.
@@TheGeoCheese lol. I hope you realize you are saying you'd murdered your ally just to save a person who wants to die lol. You are basically saying if you were a soldier in ww2 and fought side by side with another soldier for several years you would betray them and murder them to save a nazi that joined you for one battle then asked you to kill him for his Sins lol.
Love how in-game characters can tank bombs, fireballs, magic missiles, countless arrows and various slashes, bonks and stabs from swords, maces and greataxes etc. but as soon as it’s a cutscene, a wee little dagger does the trick nice n quick
If you hot a sneak attack with high enough damage you can also oneshot people. Id say without a cutscene the characters rarely take a knife right into the heart
I mean, 'hit points' aren't neccesarly a measure of how much hits you can take. One perspective I remember hearing is that it's how many/much of 'near misses' you can have before a blow connects hard and takes you down. So, with her mind completely focused on the mission, and not expecting a betrayal.... yeah. that could be the why. or something. IDK.
@@kiilgore806 That sounds more like how someone in Naughty Dog mentioned how Nathan Drake doesn't die in game. HP is more of a representation of all the factors that contribute to your ability to stay standing, such as your actual physical fortitude and your will to live, you could probably also say it's your ability to turn with blows . You are most certainly getting hit because that's pretty much what your AC/Save was designed to avoid. The reality is that it's a game run by an AI rather than a human being who can like adjust for the discrepancies between gameplay and cutscene. But I mean like most games have this sort of thing, never understood why people get caught up in it.
The fact that you have to bring La’zel so far to this point. Make her go against Vlaakith and her own people, get the Orphic Hammer, betray the Emperor, turn her idol Orpheus into a mind flayer. All for you, a friend or lover, to stab her in the back like a coward. Could not be a better song. Wish there was a longer version.
@@jamesjames7868 the psychopath uploading this video has let lae'zel belive vlaakith is the way to go all the way til the end, so here orphius is actually a traitor to her
The fact that you have to bring La’zel so far to this point. Make her go against Vlaakith and her own people, get the Orphic Hammer, betray the Emperor, turn her idol Orpheus into a mind flayer. All for you, a friend or lover, to stab her in the back like a coward. Could not be a better song. Wish there was a longer version.
@@hethen5846 not really, She literally tries to save Tav and the rest of the group the best and only way she knows how. While Shadow heart is a cold, murderer who is willing and able to slit your throat in your sleep if you disagree with her. Shadow heart is far worse then Lazel, You can claim she not, except she unlike Lazel has seen/heard and lives in a society were good people and things exist, yet still choosing to be a shar worshipper till a Literal Celestial and Tav tell her to stop being a dick.
this is why i don't understand how death matters in this world. Like, I can pick up a scroll that reverses death from almost every single vendor, even in the middle of nowhere.
@@MikaMikhailMikhailovich There's ways to accomplish exactly the same gameplay effects without narratively cheapening death. Especially when the tadpoles are in the mix. Resurrection is just a bad idea, and it really shouldn't be canon.
@@mattc9598 that's actually just for making the players lives easier. In universe random venders don't have scrolls and the scrolls are actually not that great anyway since they can only resurrect the very fresh and not heavily maimed and only with their consent. Meaning if you had a scroll and someone you care about had just been shot in the head you'd be rushing to use it and recite the complex spell correctly because the minute they start to decay that's it.
imagine surviving a crash from the hells, battling an undead army, battling a master vampire, the slayer of Bhaal, the chosen of Bane, THE LITERAL DEVIL and an elder brain who placed a tadpole in your head only to die right after it's over by the hand of your comrade
Ohhh those cutscenes I saw Lae'zel tank a nuke, a god's avatar slamming in her face and withstand direct dragonfire. But she's gonna die from our shaving razor. Because we are the main character xD
Aye. She's survived the 12-foot scythe blade of the avatar of death, ground zero from countless fireballs, being poisoned with wyvern toxin and hacked with two-handed weapons of every variety...but damn, a dagger to the kidney? Nope. Nothing we can do about that. 🙃
@@Webhead123 That's why they call it "Gameplay/Story Segregation". There's plenty of moments like this in many games. BG3 is no different. If you were to apply real life logic, it could simply be that she dodged all those attacks that would've killed her. If you notice, there's plenty of cases where characters die instantly for stupid things in cut scenes, but practically require a tactical nuke to the face to actually put down for good in game play.
@@DownWithTheImperialists Let us not try to rationalize dnd logic xD These inaccuracies are the price we pay for the high fantasy gameplay first approach
Interesting, I romanced lazael and persuade checked her along the whole story, doing so she believes Voss is telling the truth and learns about the story of Orpheus. In the end Orpheus gives her his personal dragon and she flys off to start the civil war against the queen
You are both wrong if you simply hit "let lae'zel take the lead" every chance you get even without romance she rebels against lich-face, sides with Orpheus, wreaks the emporer and basicly becomes the party mvp. If you do this with Astarian he comits a minor sucide, Gale will commit suicide if you let him do his thing, Shadowheart will murder Lae'zel and nightsong and Karlach burns souls to get a power-up. When Wyll is backed he refuses to kill Karlach and tries to break his pact so him and Lae'zel are basically the only two who don't make aweful decisions.
@stephenjames2159 In every playthrough, including my insanely, unnecessarily evil playthrough, I let Shadowheart decide for herself and she throws her spear away. In the insanely evil one I was pissed and reloaded so she would kill Nightsong
The fact that you have to bring La’zel so far to this point. Make her go against Vlaakith and her own people, get the Orphic Hammer, betray the Emperor, turn her idol Orpheus into a mind flayer. All for you, a friend or lover, to stab her in the back like a coward. Could not be a better song. Wish there was a longer version.
This was revenge for all those times she kept forcing me to respect her filthy brutal culture. Now her people will die along with her. Pity she would not live long enough to see it
Interesting lore in this ending! Orpheus feeling like he wont be able to stay himself as a mindflayer is a useful data point. Then again, you can also convince him to stay alive and maintain control for the good of his people. Maybe liberated mindflayers with a purpose can retain their autonomy?
In 5e lore it is extremely rare for mindflayers to retain their original memories and personalities after transformation. Still rare, but more common, is something called partialism, where fragments remain. SPOILERS AHEAD: If you or Karlach choose to turn into mindflayers at the end, Jergal tells others you are still in there. Halsin, if you are romancing him, also thinks you are you. Interestingly, this is the only ending where you can talk him into letting you go with him... which may suggest you are beginning to mind control him. There's another companion where you sway their opinion -- Shadowheart, I think?
At the end of the day, even a mind flayed fully in control of their faculties subsists by eating the brains of intelligent beings. You are allowed to exterminate things that will eat you if they can.
Fun fact, Mindflayers have a bogeyman story of a powerful mind flayer who maintains their personality from before being tadpoled. They call them The Adversary and thin they will be the undoing of Mind Flayers forever. Orpheus seems like a solid candidate, given his abilities.
I don't know for sure, but i know another ending is one where the group gets ready to go aid a revolution against Vlaakith. I think Lae'zel only leaves her faith if you start on the questline that leads to the revolution ending.
@@danielskovbjerg4562Damn, it never even occurred to me that this was a possible outcome... I just sorta assumed conversion and redemption were baked into her arc. I should have known better! This game, I swear! What a masterwork.
In my game Laezel abandoned Vlakith, and killed Mindflayer Orpheus, but I cant remember if there was an option to stab Laezel, might be only for Origin Shadow 😂
@@Turanic1 It's not, I've seen this cutscene with people playing as Tav, I assume you get this if you allow her to continue drinking Vlaakith's koolaid.
I’m on my 3 gameplay and I decided to not even go into the githyanki crech and just got to act 3 lae’zel saw Orfeo in the prism and is hating him. I’m guessing this is the end I might get with her even tho I’m not using her at all in this campaign.
i started an evil playthrough where i also try to do like the worst decisions possible, at the same time i also romanced laezel in that run. then in act 3 an romantic scene started while long resting where she showed me the sunrise and instead of confessing her love to me, what probably would have happened in an actual good run i think, she broke up with me because she only cares about beeing vlakith´s best servant now lmao.
No one really gives Lae'zel enough credit for how loyal of a companion she is. She's with you from the start and is willing to forsake her people's customs so you can fight side by side to get rid of your tadpoles. She doesn't start off morally "good," but still respects you as the leader and doesn't disapprove of you helping others. When the dark urge origin is revealed, she's supportive and lowkey isn't worried because she has so much faith in your strength. So to betray Lae'zel of all people, who actively defied the ways of her people from the start to fight beside you hurts more than almost any other betrayal in the game.
The absolute disbelief in Lae'zel's eyes at 1:21. Also i could not bring myself talking Lae'zel back into Vlaakith, it is so obvious that Vlaakith is deranged. Someone that yells is not in control, and Vlaakith, yelled quite a lot when you talked to her.
That's kind of my problem with an evil playthrough. You just feel like a giant gullible moron, blindly obeying clearly malicious entities or individuals for essentially ZERO personal gain. Like it'd be one thing if an evil playthrough had you making morally awful deals, but you got power or greater influence out of it. But no. You just feel like a dummy and you lose out on like 50% of the content in the game. Even Dark Urge is more like "would you like to commit this atrocity for literally no reason at all?" than anything compelling. I love BG3 but I feel like 90% of the work went into the "good" playthrough. You can see kernels of what they intended to add to an evil playthrough but it just feels so badly executed and limited in scope. Choosing to side with Vlaakith is probably the most egregious example, but going evil with Shadowheart is just as bad, and oh my god is Astarion's "evil" resolution to his plot ridiculously lame. He turns into a turbo-douche on a dime. Like he wasn't good before, but he just goes full on sneering abusive prick.
@@GuiltyKit I mean, Vlaakith and Shar have always been like that. Vlaakith's always been a con-artist cult leader who very probably murdered Gith or gave her to the archdevils. Lorewise I'm actually surprised Vlaakith hadn't eaten Voss centuries ago, or cast him out and had him hunted down and killed. She used to eat every Githyanki that got to a level of capability represented out of game by like... level 12ish as soon as they reached it, because food but also because she wants to be the only person with any power. Shar's always wanted to literally end existence and be as petty as possible in getting one-up on her sister. With the Dark Urge, it's not "atrocities for no reason" it's atrocities for FUN, which I acknowledge isn't the kind of evil experience everyone's after. I mean, the thing about all those evil entities is that yeah, they're selfish and there's no real room in their worldviews for anyone else truly benefitting or prospering, because why would they want or allow that? That's a large portion of cosmic Evil in the Forgotten Realms. Do you think you'd have enjoyed if maybe the Baneite aspect of the dead three triad got more focus and screentime? Although Bane wants well-organised and ordered people, ultimately, I think, adventurers aren't his ideal allies. Or maybe if the Zhentarim were more of a presence you could ally with? They're ultimately Banites too, but you could maybe have a sort of mafia storyline with them. What would be a rewarding evil path for you?
Astarion doesn't necessarily go full turbodouche, I ascended him, but because I wasn't dating him and am just his friend, and probably because I gave him conflicting choices throughout the game he ended up being a slightly edgier version of himself....not nesrly edgy enough to off him for it though, and he talks about how hes loving life, having parties, really living instead of the base survival he was doing. He is building power up,but it's not half as bad as his ex Master was. At least I think that's why. Mine was just grateful and glad to have me and the rest of his friends, and to be able to collab in the future
@@thomasjoychild4962the problem he likely had, and the problem I had that kept me from playing more than 2 murders in to the dark urge storyline, is that I'm an old school D&D player. I play these games partially for roleplay experiences and living stories, and so to play a character who's alignment is "stupid evil" is not gonna be fun for me. Chaotic evil has their own way of being, doesn't follow anyone's laws but their own and doesn't care about hurting others to obtain their goals but unfortunately a lot of newer players and thus game designers will play them as "stupid evil" which is basically just doing the most evil thing for the sake of "because I'm EEEEEVIL MWAHAHAHAHA!". Durge feels like that and frankly most normal well adjusted human beings will not like it. lawful evil is fun and interesting for most players to roleplay because it's unchecked ambition and we can relate to that at least, but Durge is not that way.😢
I actually see this as a fitting end for lae'zel. Blinded by her path in battle, she could not see the difference in friend and foe. All that mattered was serving her queen. The moment she entangled allys to enemies, it was too late to keep her mind at ease. And so, Lae'zel dies by the hands of those she denied her brothers and sisters in arms.
It would've been way cooler to have personal quips from every origin character for big scenes like this, where they panic and apologize or just do anything other than having a blank faced template stare..
They did good with her expressions. That's exactly the kind of face you'd make if you were betrayed by someone you called a good friend and ally. I can feel her sadness and her anger and disappointment.
I will admit imma watch SOME of the endings on youtube cuz with how many combinations there are for your Team.... theis game is gonna have MANY. not to mention the options you got during the ending dialogue
I remember saving Lae’zel in act 1 but kicking her out when she wasn’t grateful. Then I ignored her the rest of the game. Found her dead body on the floor right at the entrance to act 2 and thought “Oh no!” Then I laughed bc it’s so random. She was probably too hard headed to listen to anyone warning her about the shadow curse
The whole journey, everything gained and learned, promises made only to be Betrayed and killed when the battle was done. even if Lae'zel still stood with vlaakith, she did not deserve this. it's just low.
"She was blinded by her faith but true in her devotion" dang .... This hurts so much when I remember all the playthrought with my comrades or myself changing to control the artifact... Maybe then the "best way" is too kill the brain via the emperor and then kill the emperor... Cause yes... A mindflayer will still be a mindflayer even though it try to do his best 😅
I believe I got the best ending overall. My character has fully turned into a ilithid, freed Orpheus, got him as ally, and even as I romanced only Lae'zel for the whole campaign, I encouraged her to fly away with Orpheus to free her people from Vlakhth. After all that, I chose to end my character's life, as the world really will not benefit from a very powerful ilithid existing. The talk with Withers afterwards reveal that maybe there's something among the gods for him.
Yeah I am a terrible roleplayer. After realizing the potential for good, I can't bring myself to play evil. I couldn't even kick that squirrel. But then, I have killed minthara every time I encounter her. Turning on the druids and tieflings knowing they can be saved is also something I have just been unwilling to do as of yet.
The great thing about this game is I did this choice in my good play through. Didn’t use Laezel much and she wasn’t part of the final battle. She finally comes in and it’s the only way to save Orpheus. Convinced him to live for his people and in the epilogue there’s a data slate thing saying he’s preparing to get rid of Vlakith. She was bad in my play through.
You can tell under the broken sadness and surprise at shadowhearts betrayal they still intended to fight back. At first it was just a instinctual response to pain, but the second and third attempt to pluck that shortsword from their body was a true attempt to retaliate. They processed it rather quickly, probably broke them mentally, and after all that still tried to pull the sword out to get a fight going...just didnt have the strength left after that to do it. Thats the real reason she died to this, she truly saw them as her ally.
i didn't get any orpheus scene because he happened to be transformed into a displacer beast when i beat the boss and the game acted as if my pc was the mindflayer instead, very confusing
Because it's so well written you actually care. The only way to avoid it being heavy would be for it to end with something like them all going to happily live on a farm somewhere together forever, but that wouldn't be very satisfying.
@blehblehorama I actually would be satisfied with that, if it was very difficult to do. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that there are so many different variations and heavy endings (and flat-out "evil" endings), but I would also like a hard fought victory that feels like an unconditional "victory" for a good character. Not going to keep me from loving every second I've spent in the game so far, though, or the ones I plan to keep putting in.
The canon ending for me will always be the one where Laezel turns on her queen after learning the truth, karlach and wyll go to avernus (they found a cure for her heart if you played the epilogue). Orpheus becomes a mindflayer, Laezel stays with you if you romanced her and it doesn’t matter if she goes or not because a letter from Voss in the epilogue literally saids that they’re closer to githyanki liberation. So in the end Orpheus didn’t die for nothing.
Note they only get the cure if you talk to the NPC Fytz in the city, as far as I'm aware---a lot of people aren't getting that cure dialogue and it seems to me that is why.
I was like, this isn't my bae... Then realized this is the Queen's pawn Lae'zel lol. I was suppose to be with Shadow on my second run. But getting to know Lae was so enjoyable, i pushed Shadow to the side, again 😂
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That end....killing her because you do not want her to kill him. Then decide to kill him yourself.
😂
honestly worth, Lae’zel is the most annoying companion to have
@@danieljones7220 Tell me you don't give enough of a shit to learn about the characters without telling me you don't give enough of a shit
@@danieljones7220 awful take
@@M0tyxia Im team SH but watching Laezel enjoying Sun was Something Else. Theres no bad companion in this game, just dont kill them in first few fcking minutes xD
Her expression at the end really did show nothing but betrayal and sadness. She never saw it coming.
yeah. her face was saying it all, the why ? the really ? the wtf what ? .
@@budoshi-f2l i like how she doesn't even need a dialog to convey her expression
*Wants to stab an ally*
*Gets stabbed by an ally*
*Surprised pikachu face*
You could say it was her Last Suprise
@@jondoe7036🎶you never see it comiiiin’🎶
Lae'zel really does find a way to die in every single act
This made me crack up
Say Tsk'va to life.
*Proceeds to die for fun*
Funny thing is that she is better of dead than ascended in which she will also end up dead but the tyrant will absorb her and her people will still be enslaved but I assume the person who played in this video didn’t go to the creche😂
She's BG3's Sean Bean!
thats why I stabbed her, but it still felt horrible. I romanced her as well but she broke up with me for vlak lol
*Stabs a level 12 warrior with a +2 shorsword*
*dies*
Glad to see Bioware murder knife has a spiritual successor
what is the murder knife? ( l have not played the other games can you tell me what it is please?)
The murder knife is a nickname given to the dagger that multiple dragon age protagonists use to kill someone in a cutscene. Happens quite a few times in dragon age origins if you choose a "Kill them" option@@zeno6554
@@zeno6554 probably the knife you'd pull from your ass to kill people in dragon age games. Could also be referencing back when baldurs gate were bioware games. didn't play the first two
@@zeno6554 i stand corrected lol just rewatched and saw the point of the blade going out her front
AC and HP isn't always the ability to just tank a blow in D&D, it's dodging, parrying, stamina. It's like stabbing a 5 ac with 1 hp when you aim for the right spot and they don't resist it, even with her armor. BG3 just sort of game-ifies the hits during combat.
The myth of "consensual death":
Orpheus: "I consent"
Lae'zel: "I consent"
Shart: "*I don't*"
Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
😂😂😂
Goverment and Christians.
She sure sharted all over Lae'zel
SHART???!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣
Why...why did Jen and Aliona decide to call her flippin Shart....? Sheart is RIGHT THERE!
crazy how it still pains me, even after not playing for weeks, to see lae'zel, or any of the characters hurt. Larian created a masterpiece with this game!
Meanwhile me on my dark urge 11th play through cutting Gales hand off and letting everyone around me die. 😃
agreed, I was listening to apart of Karlach when she was talking about something and it sounded like she was gonna cry, it had me bawling behind the screen, I was like " damn it game what are you doing to me?!?!?!"
@@surprisedbush8979 the edgelord attacks once again
@YskarAlbumLuna Lowkey though, its much easier to kill them than hurt them if it makes sense
I have no issues killing Karlach in some of my runs but god forbid I do something 'mean'
Yeah. Dude. The look of betrayal in her eyes when you kill her in this scene is brutal. I audibly responded when watching this.. :[
Im surprised shadowheart landed that attack with her piss-poor accuracy 😂
If shadowheart isn't hitting, you're doing it wrong
She rarely hits for me too, not sure what I'm doing wrong
@@chriscornell8810respec her out of her mixed str/dex and just pick one. As it stands 13 is a measly +1 to hit before weapon enchantments, 16 on the otherhand is +3 to hit.
She just has bad stats, 13 DEX and 13 STR, which just gives her a measly +1 on all weapon attack rolls.
Additionally, her starting cantrip targets enemies with a DEX save, and most enemies in Act 1 have high Dex (Goblins for example), so they have a good chance to avoid the damage.
must have shit stat planning if your Shadow heart misses...its called respecing and optimizing and making her a OP war cleric...better than majority of pure melee builds period.
Orpheus: You killed your ally to save a mind flayer?
SH: No I just realised I can finally do that, now I'll kill you as you wish.
Orpheus: Oh...ok.
😂😂😂
Killed my ally? Naw homie I been waiting for this for a chapter and a half, she's insufferable! 😂
I really hate seeing Lae'zel like this, just... still a slave to a queen who will devour her to gain power.
Muh character development!
Unfortunately, as far as D&D goes, that is the githyanki as a whole. The ones who broke away were the Githzerai, who had the mind to know that was all fucking bullshit.
The Yanki hunt the zerai even now because of it.
@@THEGRUMPTRUCK I'm on my third playthrough and this is the first time Laezel is even alive to see level 4. So insufferable. And picking fights with Shadowheart, like she wants to die. I saved her ass twice now, not sure there will be a 3rd time.
It's like how I can't stand to see Shadowheart become a dark justistar. You just let them go....let them continue the cycle of abuse knowing they're being used, espically lae'zel, her whole people are being used....
@@023achilles on my 3rd playthrough , when they started fight in camp, my dice rolled 1 on convincing and i had to choose Shadowheart or Lae`zel. Usually i would quickreload this, but no this time. Green toad's corpse haunt me every time in camp lol
It is so funny that while you can absolutely turn Lae'zel into a good, modest, open minded, loving companions, many people held onto their judge and refused to save the poor delusional Githyanki girl.
I love Lae’zel. She’s cool and strong
I love angry lady I took my time in fact she was the first character I romanced. During my second playthrough I didn't take time to talk to her and didn't romance anyone, it felt so weird to have her so angry at me all the time. Currently doing a third playthrough and taking time to interact with her cause open-minded, loving La'zel better than close minded angry La'zel
I let Shadowheart kill her during the camp scene when they fought over the prism, because Lae'zel slut shamed me at the tiefling party when I had not romanced anyone or slept with anyone at that point. It's weird that the "mean" character even has a line like that in a game where all the companions are playersexual and there are several extra NPCs you can sleep with.
Either way it left a bad taste in my mouth and now her body is at the bottom of the underdark lake. :) She's usually awesome, and she softens up a lot as you progress the game but why make her slut shame? GG Larian.
I was confused here when she was talking about her queen like wait there's a way to not turn her away from vlaakith?
@kaopy she says that even if all u do is give wyll a little peck on the lips 😂😂 game is all about different perspectives and personalities I know crazy right? Some people are not ok with u being a garden tool 😂😂
Everyone should be open minded like halsin no that's not how the world works you learn to accept people's flaws and live with them not everyone is gonna be on board with how u live your life they can only accept it and move on
The look on her face, she couldn’t believe you betray her.
@@falconeshield No help just Bing Bong.
Shouldn’t have disrespected the sacrifice someone has made when it costs them their entire being.
@@TheGeoCheese ? He literally asks for them to kill him. It would be like you fight side by side for 3 years with some one, then your mortal enemy shows up and helps you win a big fight, then you kill you brother in arm to save the mortal enemy lol.
@@Cobravenom69 Lae’zel calling the Prince a traitor is certainly not being grateful for what he sacrificed for the victory. Someone was going to have to take the fall. That wasn’t an option. The only choice they can make was who was going to be a mind flayer because no one was wanting to be a mind flayer in the first place. It became a necessity. And Lae’zel disrespected that sacrifice. Hope you’re following.
@@TheGeoCheese lol. I hope you realize you are saying you'd murdered your ally just to save a person who wants to die lol. You are basically saying if you were a soldier in ww2 and fought side by side with another soldier for several years you would betray them and murder them to save a nazi that joined you for one battle then asked you to kill him for his Sins lol.
For Bing Bong!
omfg i was about to write that
Hahaha !!!! That made my day less shitty. Thank you.
(For people who don’t know: The entire main cast played a DnD session on the High Rollers channel. Bing-Bong was the MVP.)
@@ArDeeMeethanks!!
@@ArDeeMee Hes also mentioned in the game in the last feast if you romanced shadowheart when talking about your adventures together. Pretty funny.
Love how in-game characters can tank bombs, fireballs, magic missiles, countless arrows and various slashes, bonks and stabs from swords, maces and greataxes etc. but as soon as it’s a cutscene, a wee little dagger does the trick nice n quick
The power of the Bioware Murderknife :D
If you hot a sneak attack with high enough damage you can also oneshot people. Id say without a cutscene the characters rarely take a knife right into the heart
I mean, 'hit points' aren't neccesarly a measure of how much hits you can take. One perspective I remember hearing is that it's how many/much of 'near misses' you can have before a blow connects hard and takes you down. So, with her mind completely focused on the mission, and not expecting a betrayal.... yeah. that could be the why. or something. IDK.
@@kiilgore806 That sounds more like how someone in Naughty Dog mentioned how Nathan Drake doesn't die in game. HP is more of a representation of all the factors that contribute to your ability to stay standing, such as your actual physical fortitude and your will to live, you could probably also say it's your ability to turn with blows . You are most certainly getting hit because that's pretty much what your AC/Save was designed to avoid.
The reality is that it's a game run by an AI rather than a human being who can like adjust for the discrepancies between gameplay and cutscene. But I mean like most games have this sort of thing, never understood why people get caught up in it.
@@ponglenis9273 "a knife right into the heart". That knife was intestines, maybe the liver, but still a mile away from the heart.
That face mocap is something else. That look of horror, betrayal, and sadness is just...heartwrenching.
Damn the music when you stab her and the pace goes up with it is just sublime
do you know by any chance whats this OST called? I've been loking for ages
@@OOKIE_DOOKIEIt’s unreleased. Just look up “Baldur’s Gate 3 End Pier Music”
its called the hero (epilogue). its an unreleased ost@@OOKIE_DOOKIE
The fact that you have to bring La’zel so far to this point. Make her go against Vlaakith and her own people, get the Orphic Hammer, betray the Emperor, turn her idol Orpheus into a mind flayer. All for you, a friend or lover, to stab her in the back like a coward. Could not be a better song. Wish there was a longer version.
@@jamesjames7868 the psychopath uploading this video has let lae'zel belive vlaakith is the way to go all the way til the end, so here orphius is actually a traitor to her
Actually so painful to see how betrayed she felt. The sadness and fear in her eyes...
I love that she almost got you even after being suprised.
crazy how such a unique ending has the BEST version of down by the river
Got any way to find the full on RUclips?? It’s so good.
The fact that you have to bring La’zel so far to this point. Make her go against Vlaakith and her own people, get the Orphic Hammer, betray the Emperor, turn her idol Orpheus into a mind flayer. All for you, a friend or lover, to stab her in the back like a coward. Could not be a better song. Wish there was a longer version.
@@jamesjames7868 Well you only get this scene if she stays loyal to Vlaakith.
1:20 her face of pure betrayal man
This game has so many ways to kill La zel, it's amazing.
She deserves it lol
@@hethen5846Yeah it's better for her to die than stucked in a playthru with you lmao
@@Nekomomoz probably true I did murder shadowheart for no reason at all
It's gross
@@hethen5846 not really, She literally tries to save Tav and the rest of the group the best and only way she knows how. While Shadow heart is a cold, murderer who is willing and able to slit your throat in your sleep if you disagree with her. Shadow heart is far worse then Lazel, You can claim she not, except she unlike Lazel has seen/heard and lives in a society were good people and things exist, yet still choosing to be a shar worshipper till a Literal Celestial and Tav tell her to stop being a dick.
The way she uses her sword to hold her up was kinda badass
Hold on! I think I've still got like twenty scrolls of Revivify in my pack. I can fix this. Just give me a few seconds to recite the words...
this is why i don't understand how death matters in this world.
Like, I can pick up a scroll that reverses death from almost every single vendor, even in the middle of nowhere.
@@mattc9598 you have to give up a few things if you want to make a good game, sometimes that very thing is your game's ludonarrative harmony
@@MikaMikhailMikhailovich There's ways to accomplish exactly the same gameplay effects without narratively cheapening death. Especially when the tadpoles are in the mix. Resurrection is just a bad idea, and it really shouldn't be canon.
Me who keeps scrolls of revify in Shadowheart's bag (and doesn't have the spell): so uh... about THAT...
@@mattc9598 that's actually just for making the players lives easier. In universe random venders don't have scrolls and the scrolls are actually not that great anyway since they can only resurrect the very fresh and not heavily maimed and only with their consent. Meaning if you had a scroll and someone you care about had just been shot in the head you'd be rushing to use it and recite the complex spell correctly because the minute they start to decay that's it.
imagine surviving a crash from the hells, battling an undead army, battling a master vampire, the slayer of Bhaal, the chosen of Bane, THE LITERAL DEVIL and an elder brain who placed a tadpole in your head only to die right after it's over by the hand of your comrade
The pure look of betrayal in Lazeal's eyes absolutely broke my heart 😭😭😭
Ohhh those cutscenes
I saw Lae'zel tank a nuke, a god's avatar slamming in her face and withstand direct dragonfire.
But she's gonna die from our shaving razor. Because we are the main character xD
Aye. She's survived the 12-foot scythe blade of the avatar of death, ground zero from countless fireballs, being poisoned with wyvern toxin and hacked with two-handed weapons of every variety...but damn, a dagger to the kidney? Nope. Nothing we can do about that. 🙃
most likely bcause it hit a vital organ, and those other ones didnt because she was prepared for the strike
@@Webhead123 That's why they call it "Gameplay/Story Segregation". There's plenty of moments like this in many games. BG3 is no different. If you were to apply real life logic, it could simply be that she dodged all those attacks that would've killed her. If you notice, there's plenty of cases where characters die instantly for stupid things in cut scenes, but practically require a tactical nuke to the face to actually put down for good in game play.
Shadowheart was just respeced into a Paladin/Rouge Assasin and one shot her with a sneak attack
@@DownWithTheImperialists Let us not try to rationalize dnd logic xD These inaccuracies are the price we pay for the high fantasy gameplay first approach
Honestly, it’s kind of a mercy for Lae’Zel because if she went back to Vlaakith, her fate would be much worse.
Interesting, I romanced lazael and persuade checked her along the whole story, doing so she believes Voss is telling the truth and learns about the story of Orpheus. In the end Orpheus gives her his personal dragon and she flys off to start the civil war against the queen
You don't even have to romance her to do that. All you have to do is prove her queen is a traitor to her people in act two.
You are both wrong if you simply hit "let lae'zel take the lead" every chance you get even without romance she rebels against lich-face, sides with Orpheus, wreaks the emporer and basicly becomes the party mvp. If you do this with Astarian he comits a minor sucide, Gale will commit suicide if you let him do his thing, Shadowheart will murder Lae'zel and nightsong and Karlach burns souls to get a power-up. When Wyll is backed he refuses to kill Karlach and tries to break his pact so him and Lae'zel are basically the only two who don't make aweful decisions.
@stephenjames2159 In every playthrough, including my insanely, unnecessarily evil playthrough, I let Shadowheart decide for herself and she throws her spear away. In the insanely evil one I was pissed and reloaded so she would kill Nightsong
@@stephenjames2159You must have a low approval level with her for her to throw away the spear.
@@stephenjames2159 Shart doesn't kill the nighstong if you let her decide
No one mentioning karlach having a slight seizure at 0:10
Maybe her head was actually the problem
i love when you cut the video in the moment of choosing to kill him xDD
Did nobody notice Karlach’s Head spazzing out in the background 0:10
The fact that you have to bring La’zel so far to this point. Make her go against Vlaakith and her own people, get the Orphic Hammer, betray the Emperor, turn her idol Orpheus into a mind flayer. All for you, a friend or lover, to stab her in the back like a coward. Could not be a better song. Wish there was a longer version.
She has to still be serving Vlaakith to get this ending
This was revenge for all those times she kept forcing me to respect her filthy brutal culture. Now her people will die along with her. Pity she would not live long enough to see it
Interesting lore in this ending! Orpheus feeling like he wont be able to stay himself as a mindflayer is a useful data point. Then again, you can also convince him to stay alive and maintain control for the good of his people. Maybe liberated mindflayers with a purpose can retain their autonomy?
In 5e lore it is extremely rare for mindflayers to retain their original memories and personalities after transformation. Still rare, but more common, is something called partialism, where fragments remain. SPOILERS AHEAD:
If you or Karlach choose to turn into mindflayers at the end, Jergal tells others you are still in there. Halsin, if you are romancing him, also thinks you are you. Interestingly, this is the only ending where you can talk him into letting you go with him... which may suggest you are beginning to mind control him. There's another companion where you sway their opinion -- Shadowheart, I think?
It worked for Omeluum. Orpheus might as well find the guy
At the end of the day, even a mind flayed fully in control of their faculties subsists by eating the brains of intelligent beings. You are allowed to exterminate things that will eat you if they can.
Fun fact, Mindflayers have a bogeyman story of a powerful mind flayer who maintains their personality from before being tadpoled. They call them The Adversary and thin they will be the undoing of Mind Flayers forever.
Orpheus seems like a solid candidate, given his abilities.
He still wouldn't have a soul
Not surprising, really... Shadowheart wanted to do that from the moment they met.
the animation was top tier here, the look of betrayal in Lae Zel was almost real
That is some last-minute drama! Thanks for sharing.
The fact Lae’zel still swung back quickly after being stabbed is badass. Very unfortunate
So is this what happens if Lae'zel does not abandon Vlaakith?
I don't know for sure, but i know another ending is one where the group gets ready to go aid a revolution against Vlaakith. I think Lae'zel only leaves her faith if you start on the questline that leads to the revolution ending.
@@danielskovbjerg4562Damn, it never even occurred to me that this was a possible outcome... I just sorta assumed conversion and redemption were baked into her arc. I should have known better! This game, I swear! What a masterwork.
In my game Laezel abandoned Vlakith, and killed Mindflayer Orpheus, but I cant remember if there was an option to stab Laezel, might be only for Origin Shadow 😂
@@Turanic1 It's not, I've seen this cutscene with people playing as Tav, I assume you get this if you allow her to continue drinking Vlaakith's koolaid.
I’m on my 3 gameplay and I decided to not even go into the githyanki crech and just got to act 3 lae’zel saw Orfeo in the prism and is hating him. I’m guessing this is the end I might get with her even tho I’m not using her at all in this campaign.
It hurts my soul to see Lae'zel struck down like that
i started an evil playthrough where i also try to do like the worst decisions possible, at the same time i also romanced laezel in that run. then in act 3 an romantic scene started while long resting where she showed me the sunrise and instead of confessing her love to me, what probably would have happened in an actual good run i think, she broke up with me because she only cares about beeing vlakith´s best servant now lmao.
What a tragic ending. The music really brings it up too
they way i could NEVER. no matter how blinded lae'zel is by her devotion, she's still a sister to me.
Love the pacing of music after the stab. So great.
No one really gives Lae'zel enough credit for how loyal of a companion she is. She's with you from the start and is willing to forsake her people's customs so you can fight side by side to get rid of your tadpoles. She doesn't start off morally "good," but still respects you as the leader and doesn't disapprove of you helping others. When the dark urge origin is revealed, she's supportive and lowkey isn't worried because she has so much faith in your strength. So to betray Lae'zel of all people, who actively defied the ways of her people from the start to fight beside you hurts more than almost any other betrayal in the game.
Now that’s a Trickery Cleric, nobody saw it coming
Roleplaying Shadowheart the correct way.
omg i laughed so hard at the last choice
There was zero hesitation lmao
Whoa, that's some good mocap work. Poor Lae'zel, she never saw it coming
The absolute disbelief in Lae'zel's eyes at 1:21. Also i could not bring myself talking Lae'zel back into Vlaakith, it is so obvious that Vlaakith is deranged. Someone that yells is not in control, and Vlaakith, yelled quite a lot when you talked to her.
Jesus, my runs have been all hugs and happy tears at the end, what are y’all doing to get these horrific endings?!?!? lmfao
Frankly if after everything Lae'Zel is still swearing by "Her Queen" Vlakith, then this is the most fitting end. As for any zealot blinded by duty.
That's kind of my problem with an evil playthrough. You just feel like a giant gullible moron, blindly obeying clearly malicious entities or individuals for essentially ZERO personal gain. Like it'd be one thing if an evil playthrough had you making morally awful deals, but you got power or greater influence out of it. But no. You just feel like a dummy and you lose out on like 50% of the content in the game. Even Dark Urge is more like "would you like to commit this atrocity for literally no reason at all?" than anything compelling.
I love BG3 but I feel like 90% of the work went into the "good" playthrough. You can see kernels of what they intended to add to an evil playthrough but it just feels so badly executed and limited in scope. Choosing to side with Vlaakith is probably the most egregious example, but going evil with Shadowheart is just as bad, and oh my god is Astarion's "evil" resolution to his plot ridiculously lame. He turns into a turbo-douche on a dime. Like he wasn't good before, but he just goes full on sneering abusive prick.
@@GuiltyKit I mean, Vlaakith and Shar have always been like that. Vlaakith's always been a con-artist cult leader who very probably murdered Gith or gave her to the archdevils. Lorewise I'm actually surprised Vlaakith hadn't eaten Voss centuries ago, or cast him out and had him hunted down and killed. She used to eat every Githyanki that got to a level of capability represented out of game by like... level 12ish as soon as they reached it, because food but also because she wants to be the only person with any power. Shar's always wanted to literally end existence and be as petty as possible in getting one-up on her sister. With the Dark Urge, it's not "atrocities for no reason" it's atrocities for FUN, which I acknowledge isn't the kind of evil experience everyone's after.
I mean, the thing about all those evil entities is that yeah, they're selfish and there's no real room in their worldviews for anyone else truly benefitting or prospering, because why would they want or allow that? That's a large portion of cosmic Evil in the Forgotten Realms.
Do you think you'd have enjoyed if maybe the Baneite aspect of the dead three triad got more focus and screentime? Although Bane wants well-organised and ordered people, ultimately, I think, adventurers aren't his ideal allies. Or maybe if the Zhentarim were more of a presence you could ally with? They're ultimately Banites too, but you could maybe have a sort of mafia storyline with them.
What would be a rewarding evil path for you?
@@GuiltyKit Astarion's evil ending is so stupid and forced, I always give him the evil ending just so I can kill him afterwards.
Astarion doesn't necessarily go full turbodouche, I ascended him, but because I wasn't dating him and am just his friend, and probably because I gave him conflicting choices throughout the game he ended up being a slightly edgier version of himself....not nesrly edgy enough to off him for it though, and he talks about how hes loving life, having parties, really living instead of the base survival he was doing. He is building power up,but it's not half as bad as his ex Master was. At least I think that's why. Mine was just grateful and glad to have me and the rest of his friends, and to be able to collab in the future
@@thomasjoychild4962the problem he likely had, and the problem I had that kept me from playing more than 2 murders in to the dark urge storyline, is that I'm an old school D&D player. I play these games partially for roleplay experiences and living stories, and so to play a character who's alignment is "stupid evil" is not gonna be fun for me. Chaotic evil has their own way of being, doesn't follow anyone's laws but their own and doesn't care about hurting others to obtain their goals but unfortunately a lot of newer players and thus game designers will play them as "stupid evil" which is basically just doing the most evil thing for the sake of "because I'm EEEEEVIL MWAHAHAHAHA!". Durge feels like that and frankly most normal well adjusted human beings will not like it. lawful evil is fun and interesting for most players to roleplay because it's unchecked ambition and we can relate to that at least, but Durge is not that way.😢
When laezel stares at the sun it mirrors her romance scene when she says she loves ro stare at it rise...gah the feels
I actually see this as a fitting end for lae'zel.
Blinded by her path in battle, she could not see the difference in friend and foe.
All that mattered was serving her queen.
The moment she entangled allys to enemies, it was too late to keep her mind at ease.
And so, Lae'zel dies by the hands of those she denied her brothers and sisters in arms.
Funny how you can get toppled by a giant boulder and survive like nothing but a tiny bitty dagger anhilates you xD
Omg the cut right as you press the killing him option is sooo perfect! XD
The fucking cut-off of killing him anyways has me fucking rolling
She's just in the mood to stab people.
This is probably the worst ending for lae'zel, you keep her from achieving her destiny and continue being a slave to vlaakith, only to throw her away
Nah it's worse if you don't stab her hear because she gets eaten by vlaakith.
Justice for bing bong
It would've been way cooler to have personal quips from every origin character for big scenes like this, where they panic and apologize or just do anything other than having a blank faced template stare..
They did good with her expressions. That's exactly the kind of face you'd make if you were betrayed by someone you called a good friend and ally. I can feel her sadness and her anger and disappointment.
"What? Dude, I just wanted the sword. *Stabs him*"
So much for a dusk armor when a knife pierces it
Armor class is a dumb mechanic…it just means you can dodge better instead of tanking hits
Shadowheart rushing the "suffer not the Xenos to live" ending here...
God, the look of betrayal on her face, I could never
if you've travelled with lazael through three acts, and she still calls you a mere ally, you have failed in life.
3. Whisper "Bing Bong sends his regards" to Lae'zel ear.
You would have to do some crap choices to get Lae'zel to end up like that
I see Orin didn't die in this playthrough. Karlach is acting real sus 🤣🤣
There is a bizarre amount of death scenes for Lae’zel, I’m half-convince she’s *supposed* to canonically be killed off.
I will admit imma watch SOME of the endings on youtube cuz with how many combinations there are for your Team.... theis game is gonna have MANY. not to mention the options you got during the ending dialogue
somehow still the most sane shadowheart moment
Damn that was HURTFUL to watch. I had Laezel shadowheart and Astarion from the start they’re all my besties 😢
Soooo one of your bestie tried to kill you...fck astarion!
to be fair.....if you didn't kill her V'laakith would have consumed her soul.....
I remember saving Lae’zel in act 1 but kicking her out when she wasn’t grateful.
Then I ignored her the rest of the game.
Found her dead body on the floor right at the entrance to act 2 and thought “Oh no!”
Then I laughed bc it’s so random. She was probably too hard headed to listen to anyone warning her about the shadow curse
Shadowheart and lae'zel started off wanting to kill each other and at the end it was shadowheart who ended it
The whole journey, everything gained and learned, promises made only to be Betrayed and killed when the battle was done.
even if Lae'zel still stood with vlaakith, she did not deserve this.
it's just low.
A fitting end to a filthy gith…a slave who does not know its place.
Pwah cette scene me rend si triste.. surtout quand tu sais que le joueur mène lazel sur ce chemin, pour finalement la trahir gratuitement. 😭
Je m'en remet pas, je travail la larme à l'oeil 😩
The perfect stop after hitting the “kill him…” button is golden
Prince was holding out with the Shortsword +2 the whole time?! You don't even need that unarmed monk!
"This is for Bing Bong!"
"She was blinded by her faith but true in her devotion" dang .... This hurts so much when I remember all the playthrought with my comrades or myself changing to control the artifact... Maybe then the "best way" is too kill the brain via the emperor and then kill the emperor... Cause yes... A mindflayer will still be a mindflayer even though it try to do his best 😅
I dunno, I was a pretty awesome mindflayer as Astarion. I did good hero things.
Stabbed in the back.
Shar would be proud.
I believe I got the best ending overall. My character has fully turned into a ilithid, freed Orpheus, got him as ally, and even as I romanced only Lae'zel for the whole campaign, I encouraged her to fly away with Orpheus to free her people from Vlakhth. After all that, I chose to end my character's life, as the world really will not benefit from a very powerful ilithid existing. The talk with Withers afterwards reveal that maybe there's something among the gods for him.
Yeah I am a terrible roleplayer. After realizing the potential for good, I can't bring myself to play evil. I couldn't even kick that squirrel.
But then, I have killed minthara every time I encounter her. Turning on the druids and tieflings knowing they can be saved is also something I have just been unwilling to do as of yet.
Knock her out and you’ll get one of the best companions and keep everyone alice
The great thing about this game is I did this choice in my good play through. Didn’t use Laezel much and she wasn’t part of the final battle. She finally comes in and it’s the only way to save Orpheus. Convinced him to live for his people and in the epilogue there’s a data slate thing saying he’s preparing to get rid of Vlakith. She was bad in my play through.
@@dominiccollins7238 I got her to turn on Vlakkith. But then she was just a zealot for Orpheus.
@@jonathanbaker4361 I mean minthie is evil😅
You can tell under the broken sadness and surprise at shadowhearts betrayal they still intended to fight back. At first it was just a instinctual response to pain, but the second and third attempt to pluck that shortsword from their body was a true attempt to retaliate. They processed it rather quickly, probably broke them mentally, and after all that still tried to pull the sword out to get a fight going...just didnt have the strength left after that to do it.
Thats the real reason she died to this, she truly saw them as her ally.
It's just truly poetic how the video ends lmao, the sudden video end after choosing the option lmao.
0:11 you good Karlach?
god i'm shocked about how many endings this game has, what the fuck
It’s the music which hits when she turns around. Like damn
> Survives dragon breath/beholder's ray/desitegration spell
> dies from one stab
what a great narrative.
i didn't get any orpheus scene because he happened to be transformed into a displacer beast when i beat the boss and the game acted as if my pc was the mindflayer instead, very confusing
Shadowheart was just out for some blood that day.
She felt betrayed in the last moments of her life. I feel so sad for her 😢
Betrayal never comes from your enemies, but the ones you trust
Well, Lae'zel HAS a history of devotedly trusting beings that fully intend to kill her once she's no longer useful to them...
Damn why are the endings in this game so heavy?
Because it's so well written you actually care.
The only way to avoid it being heavy would be for it to end with something like them all going to happily live on a farm somewhere together forever, but that wouldn't be very satisfying.
@blehblehorama I actually would be satisfied with that, if it was very difficult to do. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that there are so many different variations and heavy endings (and flat-out "evil" endings), but I would also like a hard fought victory that feels like an unconditional "victory" for a good character.
Not going to keep me from loving every second I've spent in the game so far, though, or the ones I plan to keep putting in.
The canon ending for me will always be the one where Laezel turns on her queen after learning the truth, karlach and wyll go to avernus (they found a cure for her heart if you played the epilogue). Orpheus becomes a mindflayer, Laezel stays with you if you romanced her and it doesn’t matter if she goes or not because a letter from Voss in the epilogue literally saids that they’re closer to githyanki liberation. So in the end Orpheus didn’t die for nothing.
Note they only get the cure if you talk to the NPC Fytz in the city, as far as I'm aware---a lot of people aren't getting that cure dialogue and it seems to me that is why.
No one's gonna talk about Karlach's neck snapping at 0:10
Love the chaotic evil gameplay at the end.
I’m not a big Lae’zel fan … but this broke my heart 😢
I was like, this isn't my bae... Then realized this is the Queen's pawn Lae'zel lol. I was suppose to be with Shadow on my second run. But getting to know Lae was so enjoyable, i pushed Shadow to the side, again 😂
Right just seeing her again, shes too good
Never mess with the Shart!
It's always good to see Lae'zel dying in a different way