Oysters and lemon mignonette - Common flavors put together that have to be broken down and deconstructed, foreshadowing what happens to the guests. This is meant to be taken as Chef throwing down the gauntlet. Amuse Bouche - More foreshadowing. Charred lace - crater. Milk snow - ash from the fire. Cucumber and melon - the guests. The Island - Scallop on a rock - Chef presenting himself to the guests. Plants - "in the weeds" Breadless bread plate - straight up snarking at picky customers. But you can also make a case for Lilian's plate having a broken emulsion on purpose as his way of saying SHE'S as useless as a broken emulsion. Memory - Self explanatory The Mess - Pressurized vegetables - literal pun. Bone marrow - blood. Beef jus - sweat. Potato confit - tears. Man's Folly - Plum vinegar exists because of Umeboshi, whey plays a vital part in making yogurt, sea kelp and lettuce are what keeps the oceans biome from wreaking havoc. But everyone either doesn't know that or forgets, because they don't taste good, aren't as attractive, or can be very difficult to work with in their natural form. It's the same with women, especially when they try to speak out against unfair treatment like what the chef describes. They get called things like "bottom feeders", like crabs. Final scene with Margot/Erin eating the cheeseburger - She didn't care about giving him peace of mind. She just wanted to survive. And Chef acknowledged that. Using his menu as a napkin - She never believed anything he said for one second. She is, in fact, a taker that knows her worth. And that's why she lived.
@@nathansreviews3377 I do. I also know other stuff from the original script: Lillian wasn't completely exaggerating when she said she put Chef on the map: He had another high end restaurant before Hawthorne, called Tantalus. Got 2 Michelin stars 2 years in, then closed up shop. Isn't heard from again until 3 years later, running a taco truck in Portland. He agreed to the interview only if he could keep his privacy, his own land, and it had to be by the water so he could source his own fish. It's established the movie star has a peanut allergy during the tour, and this turns out to be setup for the menu's eighth course, where Felicity is ordered to force feed him a dish completely comprised of peanuts so as to kill him through anaphylactic shock. Anne (wife of man who paid Margot to look like his daughter while j*cking him off) actually couldn't eat The Island as is due to a shellfish allergy. Hers was salmon. The broken emulsion gag escalates to where the servers literally waterboard Lillian with it. The restaurant has hidden cameras in the dining room, so even if Elsa missed something, it still got caught. The taco truck Chef was running was, according to him, the happiest he'd ever been, but Margot call him out on it later, asking why he parked his truck at a Food Expo where he KNEW food critics were going to be, if he wanted to be left alone. Man's Folly was supposed to have more details about a woman chef's actual experience in the kitchen, from harassment to stereotypes. The women DO get bread with Man's Folly, and it IS as delicious as promised. You can even see Tyler chewing on bread when Chef comes up to confront him afterwards. Not only did Tyler bring Margot knowing she would die, he sincerely thought Chef was going to spare him. And even when called out on it, he STILL didn't apologize or take it back, because all he cared about was experiencing the menu. Them all coming to the kitchen to watch Tyler screw himself over wasn't originally in the script. They were just supposed to watch from the dining room. Margot makes another bid for her life before being ordered to go get the barrel. Which Chef appreciates enough to tell her so. Margot smiles upon seeing Tyler's hanging. Lillian realizes she's never going to get to write about this last experience, and THAT ends up being her real just desserts. Instead of dropping the ashes to set it all on fire, Chef originally drops a match. The last scene is of firefighters combing through the burnt wreckage, and the very last thing we see is the one photo of Chef as a young man, flipping a burger, but happy.
@@videohistory722 Awesome! sounds like the film really connected with you. Thanks for the extra info. What are some other films like this you connect with?
we hope... I remember that beef-on-the-153rd-day conversation that happened earlier... and remember Chef said very matter-of-factly that EVERYone was dying... yes, she lives, I know... still... 😏
Great reaction. Yes the entire reason the chef killed everyone is that when he first started cooking when he was young he worked in a fast food diner and people appreciated the food he made for them and when he became an amazing chef nobody appreciated all the work he put into perfecting his craft. You'll see Anya Taylor-Joy's character saw the picture of him cooking a burger at his first job he looked so happy and when he talked with her he said he hadn't enjoyed cooking for anyone in a very long time. This was about rich entitled people who could never be pleased no matter how hard you try. Poor people eating his cheeseburgers had so much appreciation for the food he prepared while the rich entitled people could eat there all the time and couldn't even recall anything they had eaten there before.
Ah. That you were expecting cannibalism late in the game means you owe yourself a re-watch, as you have lost track of the tone. I wouldn't necessarily call this a masterpiece or a work of genius, but it is a much tighter and more thematically structured script than you let yourself receive on first watch, and the tone, simultaneously delicate, wicked, vicious, warped, and, yes, funny, is part of what makes this movie run well. Upon re-watch, I think you might find there's less "flinging things against the wall" than you're perceiving at the moment.
As you edit the movie, hopefully you'll see the big clue and key in the photo that Margo sees, and which leads her to the request she makes. His reaction is not "How dare you" but is a trigger to the thing that used to make him happy. So watch the movie again and you will probably catch it. I think you also spoiled for yourself the rhythm of the request scene when you stopped, pulled out the ear buds and began your reflections, which were lovely, but which pulled you away from the scene. So that would have disrupted your understanding of the direction of the scene.
I think the reason Ralph (pronounced like Raif of Rafe, just FYI) Fiennes character lets “Margo” leave is that she gives him one last reminder of the customers he once loved to serve before his rise to fame. She wanted something simple, and she truly appreciated his work. That’s all he really wanted. She was clued in to this tactic when she saw the single photo in his quarters where he is smiling and looks happy, where he is cooking cheeseburgers and wearing the “Kiss the Chef” apron. Of all the characters, I think the dude-bro table is a close third to the old pedo and the Chef/staff on the “good riddance” scale. As awful as Tyler is, he is very obviously a psychopath so any animosity towards him is kind of a waste of energy. No qualms with his demise either, though. The critic, her lackey, the actor and his secretary, and the pedo-wife are really unjustifiable, and probably could have changed their “wicked” ways if they were allowed to leave.
I have a theory that Elsa is a former service worker thar was in the same profession as Margot. It would explain why she acts so passive aggressively around Margot in the beginning and why she attacks her, fearing chef is going to replace her with Margot.
Oysters and lemon mignonette - Common flavors put together that have to be broken down and deconstructed, foreshadowing what happens to the guests. This is meant to be taken as Chef throwing down the gauntlet.
Amuse Bouche - More foreshadowing. Charred lace - crater. Milk snow - ash from the fire. Cucumber and melon - the guests.
The Island - Scallop on a rock - Chef presenting himself to the guests. Plants - "in the weeds"
Breadless bread plate - straight up snarking at picky customers. But you can also make a case for Lilian's plate having a broken emulsion on purpose as his way of saying SHE'S as useless as a broken emulsion.
Memory - Self explanatory
The Mess - Pressurized vegetables - literal pun. Bone marrow - blood. Beef jus - sweat. Potato confit - tears.
Man's Folly - Plum vinegar exists because of Umeboshi, whey plays a vital part in making yogurt, sea kelp and lettuce are what keeps the oceans biome from wreaking havoc. But everyone either doesn't know that or forgets, because they don't taste good, aren't as attractive, or can be very difficult to work with in their natural form. It's the same with women, especially when they try to speak out against unfair treatment like what the chef describes. They get called things like "bottom feeders", like crabs.
Final scene with Margot/Erin eating the cheeseburger - She didn't care about giving him peace of mind. She just wanted to survive. And Chef acknowledged that.
Using his menu as a napkin - She never believed anything he said for one second. She is, in fact, a taker that knows her worth. And that's why she lived.
Thanks for sharing those meanings. That helps a lot. Do you like the film?
@@nathansreviews3377 I do. I also know other stuff from the original script:
Lillian wasn't completely exaggerating when she said she put Chef on the map: He had another high end restaurant before Hawthorne, called Tantalus. Got 2 Michelin stars 2 years in, then closed up shop. Isn't heard from again until 3 years later, running a taco truck in Portland. He agreed to the interview only if he could keep his privacy, his own land, and it had to be by the water so he could source his own fish.
It's established the movie star has a peanut allergy during the tour, and this turns out to be setup for the menu's eighth course, where Felicity is ordered to force feed him a dish completely comprised of peanuts so as to kill him through anaphylactic shock.
Anne (wife of man who paid Margot to look like his daughter while j*cking him off) actually couldn't eat The Island as is due to a shellfish allergy. Hers was salmon.
The broken emulsion gag escalates to where the servers literally waterboard Lillian with it.
The restaurant has hidden cameras in the dining room, so even if Elsa missed something, it still got caught.
The taco truck Chef was running was, according to him, the happiest he'd ever been, but Margot call him out on it later, asking why he parked his truck at a Food Expo where he KNEW food critics were going to be, if he wanted to be left alone.
Man's Folly was supposed to have more details about a woman chef's actual experience in the kitchen, from harassment to stereotypes.
The women DO get bread with Man's Folly, and it IS as delicious as promised. You can even see Tyler chewing on bread when Chef comes up to confront him afterwards.
Not only did Tyler bring Margot knowing she would die, he sincerely thought Chef was going to spare him. And even when called out on it, he STILL didn't apologize or take it back, because all he cared about was experiencing the menu.
Them all coming to the kitchen to watch Tyler screw himself over wasn't originally in the script. They were just supposed to watch from the dining room.
Margot makes another bid for her life before being ordered to go get the barrel. Which Chef appreciates enough to tell her so.
Margot smiles upon seeing Tyler's hanging.
Lillian realizes she's never going to get to write about this last experience, and THAT ends up being her real just desserts.
Instead of dropping the ashes to set it all on fire, Chef originally drops a match.
The last scene is of firefighters combing through the burnt wreckage, and the very last thing we see is the one photo of Chef as a young man, flipping a burger, but happy.
@@videohistory722 Awesome! sounds like the film really connected with you. Thanks for the extra info. What are some other films like this you connect with?
we hope... I remember that beef-on-the-153rd-day conversation that happened earlier... and remember Chef said very matter-of-factly that EVERYone was dying... yes, she lives, I know... still... 😏
Great reaction. Yes the entire reason the chef killed everyone is that when he first started cooking when he was young he worked in a fast food diner and people appreciated the food he made for them and when he became an amazing chef nobody appreciated all the work he put into perfecting his craft. You'll see Anya Taylor-Joy's character saw the picture of him cooking a burger at his first job he looked so happy and when he talked with her he said he hadn't enjoyed cooking for anyone in a very long time.
This was about rich entitled people who could never be pleased no matter how hard you try. Poor people eating his cheeseburgers had so much appreciation for the food he prepared while the rich entitled people could eat there all the time and couldn't even recall anything they had eaten there before.
Ah. That you were expecting cannibalism late in the game means you owe yourself a re-watch, as you have lost track of the tone. I wouldn't necessarily call this a masterpiece or a work of genius, but it is a much tighter and more thematically structured script than you let yourself receive on first watch, and the tone, simultaneously delicate, wicked, vicious, warped, and, yes, funny, is part of what makes this movie run well. Upon re-watch, I think you might find there's less "flinging things against the wall" than you're perceiving at the moment.
As you edit the movie, hopefully you'll see the big clue and key in the photo that Margo sees, and which leads her to the request she makes. His reaction is not "How dare you" but is a trigger to the thing that used to make him happy. So watch the movie again and you will probably catch it. I think you also spoiled for yourself the rhythm of the request scene when you stopped, pulled out the ear buds and began your reflections, which were lovely, but which pulled you away from the scene. So that would have disrupted your understanding of the direction of the scene.
Thanks for sharing that. I'll definitely watch this again at some point.
I think the reason Ralph (pronounced like Raif of Rafe, just FYI) Fiennes character lets “Margo” leave is that she gives him one last reminder of the customers he once loved to serve before his rise to fame. She wanted something simple, and she truly appreciated his work. That’s all he really wanted. She was clued in to this tactic when she saw the single photo in his quarters where he is smiling and looks happy, where he is cooking cheeseburgers and wearing the “Kiss the Chef” apron.
Of all the characters, I think the dude-bro table is a close third to the old pedo and the Chef/staff on the “good riddance” scale. As awful as Tyler is, he is very obviously a psychopath so any animosity towards him is kind of a waste of energy. No qualms with his demise either, though. The critic, her lackey, the actor and his secretary, and the pedo-wife are really unjustifiable, and probably could have changed their “wicked” ways if they were allowed to leave.
I have a theory that Elsa is a former service worker thar was in the same profession as Margot. It would explain why she acts so passive aggressively around Margot in the beginning and why she attacks her, fearing chef is going to replace her with Margot.
The plate for the chicken thighs was a telephone cord.
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