How To Make Your Own Unique Guppy Strain! 3 of My Newest, Vivid Strains & How I Created Each One!
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- Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2018
- How To Make Your Own Unique Guppy Strain? 3 of My Newest Breeding Strains & How I Created Each One!
How I've created new color combinations, fin styles and looks in my livebearer species, such as guppies, endler's and hybrids. Along with a basic genetic overview and unveiling some blurry video of my newest rare combo creations, Blue Hawaiian Moscow Guppies (Luke Roebuck's infamous, beautiful and extremely rare line via Bentley Pascoe, Lyre Tail and Spade Tail Leopard endler's, electric blue bolt cheeta lyre tails, rainbow tiger endlers from lucas bretz at lrbaquatics.com
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I had 3 endler's guppy males, each different strain, and some guppy females and a few weeks later the females gave birth, and now the babies grew up and some of them look totally different than their parents! They are awesome!
Great vid by the way!
Make a video, same thing happened to me a few years back. The offspring were beautiful
@@adaptiveplexus the most beautyfull endlers are not so easy to reproduce and are really rare, sometime you can see absolutely beautyfull hybrids who are steril.
The females were probably fertilized by different males than you have in your aquarium,before you had them.
When a female is fertilized, she can give birth 2 to 5 times from the same fertilization...
I got my own breed of platy i call them muddy mickies their brown mickeys with a beautiful blue when the light hits right
Post videos!
You have really helped / enabled .. me in the hobby….lol really though I have learned so much from watching your videos. Thank you so much.
Hey no problem. Happy it's been useful info . Thank YOU for your support
Love learning about breeding and how folks get certain traits in their fish and get them to breed true.
I have just had MY first endler fry, I got some pregnant females no idea what variety they are, so I had some unplanned fry, but ive just had my first fry from one of those females and my tigers, and I have something I've never seen before, and cant find any pictures of. 1 of the fry, born today, is a golden colour, the rest are silver, and it has blue eyes, which is the thing that I didnt know was a thing. I can't wait to see how it develops!
I would have put your altamont goal male at 2:08 with that one female with the yellow dash on the bottom of the tail at 2:35 , to hopefully give the future females of the attempted strain a ID marker. So you can say that female is a so and so.
I wish i had ... 5 years ago :(
There is nothing better than a male tiger endler flaring that spade tail to the ladies. Straight fire!
the things an endler with a lyre tail can do is pretty cool (they twist the tails in 2 opposite directions and then if they're mostly endler, they swim backwards and shimmy shimmy shimmy yaaaaawwwll
@@Fishtory I may need to to give lyre tails a go!
i had lyre tail tiger endlers but it was too hard to keep that trait going for some reason...i lost yellow as i got lyre tail...but im sure if i had crossed with another yellow endler or perhaps guppy, it could be stablized some day
"Straight fire" 😂
Your videos are so educational. I always learn Alot in every one.
Beautiful guppies, congratulations.
This is so informative!!! Fantastic reporting; I enjoy this kind of content!🌻🌼🐝
Thanks for the feedback! Have a great week
Awesome video dude! Nice looking guppies/endlers!
thanks man
Super cool! I would love to see current progress!
good video man! just got onto my second generation of my guppies and this helped ALOT. Keep up the videos.
I'm really glad they did!
Also, we have a Facebook group that specializes in helping one another with tips and tricks for the hobby. I'm always here If you have a question also. (22 years of Guppy Breeding has to come in handy at some point haha, so if it helps anyone else, then great!
Google books also has some great free books on guppy genetics and what colors or patterns are dominant vs recessive, along with the style of tail and fins. I also have about a dozen other videos on endler's livebearers and everything that is true for guppies is basically true for endlers also. So any videos with that title may help also.
Good luck, and have fun! Generation 3 is where you start to really see some cool changes, especially if you have a few extra tanks, or tank dividers to keep the females away from the males until you're ready for babies....remember, A female can use her first mate's sperm for the rest of her life if she wants, so never mix up lines of females and males of different generations or lines unless it is on purpose. Even a 3 month old female can reproduce sometimes. and should be seperated as soon as you can see the gonopodium or gravid spot.
peace, my friend- Alex
I love the stripped ones you have there they COOL looking awesome job there.
thanks!
Really enjoyable, your guppies endlers are great
Many thanks
Very nice results. Did a live stream unboxing of the Luke Roebuck Hawaiian Blue Moscow Guppies from Bentley this evening. Gave you a shout out for touring Bentley's fish tanks and filming them this summer. Thanks Alex. PS I look sadly at the postal workers each day as they pass by and do not deliver me a log cabin. The struggle is real..
hahaha, Thank you sir...and yes ill send it out soon...also with some other goodies though too
I’m jealous! Mine are still in the mail!
Oh goodie! @@Fishtory
Excellent video! Love this stuff. I have gotten side tracked with my Hawaiian blues and expect more from Bentley today! But endlers have always had a special spot in my fish room. I have evil plans of a Hawaiian blue /endler hybrid. Keep up the great work!
thanks buddy! I also plan on mixing his moscows with these and tiger endlers perhaps
The Chubby Guppy just gotta say I love your channel name! Lol sry for goin off topic but thought it was a good one!
Great endlers video. Where do you sell at ?
They're beautiful !
Nice plants too
Thank you kindly!
@@Fishtory I was going to get a bunch of different tetras for my tank but after seing your video endlers it is !
Wow! Very beautiful colors and markings. My fish shop only Sells male endlers… I know they are prettier- but now I can’t make my own 😢
thank you
LYREtail rhymes with FIREtail. A lyre is a musical instrument that the tail resembles. Cory at the co-op makes the same mistake.
Yeah I know but it's like beta vs betta and rilli vs really shrimp in that when you work at a petshop you hear it wrong more often than correct and suddenly catch yourself saying it too
Endler with Spear tail is my favorite
Very nice.
thanks Vexy ol pal!
Neat stuff! What is that strainer-looking thing in the top tank? Looks like maybe holding down some plants? Thank you!
😁👍
It was a strainer lol... its to stop water from splashing and sloshing in the soil or substrate if i do water top offs hehe. I just toss it in the tank and pour into it, to refill water
Those are really beautiful fish, well done!
Thank you very much!
@@Fishtory I had some cross, but none that pretty, I did see that spade tail shape with the yellow and black. I ended up scraping the tank and adding it to my angelfish tank. Food web and all that... It seems like a lot of your success is the breeding stock you start with?
@@Fishtory BTW, MD Fish Tanks is working on the lavender lyretail that showed up in your tank. It's a stunner!!!
them tiger endlers are AWESOME looking I'll have to get mine to look like that
thanks. Do you already have a base line of tiger endlers you're working with? for me, the "rainbow tiger endler" made selection if traights much faster, since some had trace amounts of blue already
@@Fishtory I have 1 male that has spots on him & like a blue sheen color
if that makes any sense, he's really pretty with a nice tail fin on him of like a reddish orange & black.
totally
Just found this and I want to send you pictures of something I thought were guppies but I now think are endlers
Its actually impossible to tell without genetics...its just a general term sadly...or i suppose if you get wild strains...those are true endlers, but theyre now extinct im the actual wild
Very cool. Just a quick thought tho. I think you might get that sponge filter in the background to work better if it was turned right side up! Lol just messin with ya! Good lookin fishies
haha yeah i knocked it upside down chasing fish hah
Stunning colours. I hope to one day get some purple guppies. Not that I have a clue yet how to manage thag
My sister in law made purple guppies, she had a colony going of different types she bought from lfs. Let them randomly breed a few years and a few purple ones popped up in the mutts. Was really interesting.
LRB has the nicest Endlers 😜🥁🐠
Indeed
I noticed that some of the Endlers have blue eyes, is that a trait that you could also selectively breed for?
yup ... its independent of pignentation but a hold over from a form of albinoism that popped up years ago in the hobby...my tiger endler females all have blue eyes...crystal gray blue
Or I could buy some of those beautiful fish you created. All good ways to support the channel.
If you mate a fantail with a colorless female, you will get double swords and females with some pigment in the tail. If you pair f1 with f1, you get fan tails, double swords, pigment females and females with colored tails. I learned this from a book by Hans Luc kmann about the breeding of guppies. Do these rules also apply to endlers?
Usually... sometimes theres some sort of weird cross with guppies in their past that will hide a recessive gene and 25% of a spawn may not conform... but your assertions are correct :)
@@Fishtory The percentages are 'in ten thousand'. If you were to see 10,000 offspring, 2500 would probably be different. But it's possible that all offspring from a mating fall into that 2500...
@user-cu9ck8gk9w when did they start using 10k as the ratio to data. I just ask since most species are discussed per 100k or 100 in other species and depending on how specific the decimal point must be ( for instance albinism genes are often out of 100k)
Question. Is this a species only tank? How many endler’s fit comfortably and happily in a 30 gallon long tank? Thank you
With plenty of plants and good filtration, probably 40 to 60 is fine
What are the tetras with the dark body and blue/green stripe on the back on the back of the tank?
Oh so those are actually called sundadanio axelrodi AKA neon blue/green rasboras. Lovely nano fish!
I want to buy those blue and yellow ones!
I miss them! But guess what ive got the same line available via aquaticarts.com ... 20% off just use the code FISHTORY15
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I am about to start breeding endler gups, I really love the saber and lyer tails of the endlers. I want cyan colored ones so baaaad, i have one endler male with the iridescence cyan w 2 orange spots and black dots, I want that pattern with the lyre tails, i also have a vibrant orange lyre tail endler that just GLOWS even after lights off in the tank, lol he is like only 1.2 inches in size and I believe he is fully grown. I'd love to cross his offspring with the other males offspring . Should I get muted females, like just plain grey? Or should i just get more endlers ?
Hello! I've been binge watching your videos since yesterday.
I just want to ask something. If you breed wild guppies/endlers with fancy guppies, what is the probability of them getting a swordtail? (Bottom sword, top sword, lyretail)
Pretty low if neither one has that trait...but if you cross a wild sword tail with a female guppy, then its 50 50 chance
what are the small black/darkgreen shine fish? are those endlers too? they look like some sort of rasbora or tetra.
those are called green axelrodi rasboras
I am aware this video is old, - but I hope you are still reading it Alex (or someone else perhaps).
Are the genes for the male and the female "stored" different places - so that I with patience (several generations - and new crosses) can choose male and female independent of each other or are the colors somehow the same gene though they might look a bit different (dimorphism) on male and female?
cool vid id like to do that someday but I am just going sticking to n class endlers a couple of years ago I crossed orchids with snake skin orchids starting to get some with nice long sword tails now here and there
clearly im pretty casual about my project, but it's still fun...even if you keep one tank pure of each strain and then have one or 2 of your favorites and alternate crossing them back by putting a female and male in a pen or box. id love to see your mix if you have any photos...and any endlers haha...thered a fb group link in the info where ppl share their home set ups
one question: is the singlesword recessive or dominant compared to doublesword?
Recessive as long as its not a hybrid
at what age do you select your male breakers from the total brew?
It depends what trait im selecting for. If its already a solid line that I like the look of- then ill let them get 1 or even 1.5 years old and fully color up/fin out.
If its selecting for something like spots, or an oval tail / split tail - then as young as 3 or 4 months sometimes. Color and fin shape and size change with age and also should ideally be selected from a tank of 1 year old males... but some things like tail shape will be visible at a similar time to when you can sex some males.
Good luck!
Quick ❓
I saw you have a clump of string 🧵 in one of your tanks
Dose that help the fry ?
It looks like a spawning mop. In egglayers its for the fish to lay eggs on - to act as a target for spawning and to protect the eggs from parents eating them. In livebearers its just a hiding place for the fry.
What colors could be use to make emerald green dribble sword teals
Id look for a yellow sword with no reds... no purple red or orange colors... that means it's lacking the magenta gene and then cross that trait as yellow... with a blue strain you like already. Usually it takes a ton of work to get a pure yellow sword or pattern, so anything yellow or white with even a slight touch of blue or green will usually make a lot of bright green features
I had one 20years ago never got to breed hem . He was petty green all over
I think you should breed them for size too, a 3 inch male guppy would be awesome !
Oh man! I've always done the opposite haha, made smaller "endler type" guppies...but yes, I'd like to see that...the Thai have some pretty awesome lines like that!
@@Fishtory Small males are more vital and fast, according to my observation.
I seems like they were not made to be big genetically.
Is the fish with the Mimi eyeshadow an endler also?
Hahaha um yes, unless you mean the kribensis pulcher/Nigerian red
Its also interesting to note that these days some female strains, like a few dumbo strains have females with even longer tails than the males
Indonesia specifically has strains with females having far more color than males...i love this trend, i want them both clearly marked, it would keep accidental female fry stuck to a net or plant from catching a ride into my pure tanks...im always paranoid
Is there a way to contact you? I’ve been breeding for awhile & came out with some info you may find interesting. For instance a guppy / Endler offshoot led to glass belly batches where the males have some Endler spots and colors. I never used any glass belly.
We talk on the Facebook group and have subscribers/members chats about genetics or spawning. I'm sure other's would find it interesting as well , over there
What temperature ur set at or it doesn’t matter?i have 1 tiger endler male and 3 females and 2 guppies females all to himself lol can’t wait to see
For endlers anything between 74 and 80 seems totally fine. I like 77 or 78 since it keeps up their metabolism (you do feed a bit more and instead of 2 to 4 years of like id say they die 20% faster when they're in water near 80+)
Likewise under 72 is doable ....ive kept them outside at 58 to 70 degrees, but they didnt have as many babies as i hoped, didnt color up well and really needed the sunlight hours just to recharge their energy.
So basically a healthy fish will survive most waters...ive found that keeping it moving or aerated along with tossing in about half a cup to a cup of crushed coral per 10 gallons , is what makes them do the very best.
Good luck! Please share the photo on yhe Facebook group if youd like to!
Cheers, Alex
I got the same
Strain on my aquarium
happens
7:52 wth is that blue eyed female beauty
I have similar looking females in this video. Are those the ones you're using to breed this strain?
yes, but females carry gene expression a little differently, so several styles may all have a slight black, yellow or red etc. hue. These are blue japanese endler females mixed with the rainbow tiger endler for 2 gens, and a few newer young (the smaller ones) crossed back with wild type endler males.... but their general color is blue ans yellow.... 50 50 chance of what happens
I got some Endlers only males going to try to make some cross breeding wit different female Endlers will see what happens
Cool! Keep us updated on the babies please
i got wild endlers without ANY coloration, absolutely nothing, and yes they are endlers 100%.
i cross them with a selectionned half endler half guppy, and with selectionner red endlers.
the result is meh, but i like them. i just have 100 of them in 10 galons lmao, i need to chance 50% of the water almost everyday
Weird. Wild endlers are meant to be very colourful.
Curious how hard it would be to get the whole rainbow gene to pass to other patterns.....
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well 12 tanks and years of tinkering and i cant get it all to translate.... 50/50 is ss close as I seem to get
What are those small dark fish?
I think they might be mini green neon rasbora.
Beautiful guppies! BTW, 'LYRE' is pronounced 'LIRE', not 'LEER'.
Great video, thanks! Surely the process becomes more protracted when you consider Cryptic Female Choice? (and her ability to store sperm for future pregnancies...)
Oh 100% and is incentive for trustworthy line breeding hobbyists
What do you do with all the extra fish?
Smoothies!
I sell them to local pet stores for like 2 or 3 per dollar at around 4 months old
@@Fishtory damn that's a good price! How much are they selling them for?! Endlers and guppies only cost around €2 - 4 each in the shops where I am.
They all go back to grey or yellow
I'm still learning about selective breeding, but there are no fenotypes in a female so does that make it not harder to select females during the breeding process ,? (since females also determine fenotype of offspring or maybe just don't carry good genes). So that's just a factor of luck I guess ? Do you often breed offspring males back to the mother female and do you see more "stunted" fish with them breeding ? I saw a youtube upload of a breeder (I think in Israel) who also finds short body a very special element in selecting quality in breeding (Aquarium Co-op once did a tour there). Do you find that yellow tiger endlers need black bars, because I'm still confused what really determines the word "tiger". A guy told me I have genetics from yellow snake type endler/endler-guppy (less dominant stripes)...
So yes, the phenotype of female guppies is assumed by their male siblings...which is a terrible system. But only the last decade or so, has it been possible to see females with colors also. So I'm guessing they will change that old standard of basically ignoring the female's- is going to change soon. As for crossing guppies back to their parents, it seems okay for 4 or 5 generations before defects and health issues start to occur. Guppies evolved a cool resistance to chromosomal errors due to inbreeding. They have a protein in their RNA that sort of double checks the DNA copying more efficiently than other species
So the whole tiger endler name means 3 or more vertical black stripes...the base color doesn't matter. If it's spotted instead it's a leopard and if the lines swirl at all then it's called snakeskin...but the swirling lines and dots are more common in the wild....so keeping a striped fish requires no ancestors with dots or swirls for 4 or 5 generations at least. Hope this info helps?
@@Fishtory tanx for the reply. Let's start selecting. I have 3 males with 4 to 5 vertical black stripes. Some have stripes through the whole section of their body, somewhat like a zebra. Maybe that's a little project (?). I didn't find a similar looking one on the holy internet. Or can the pattern still change when growing out ?
@@Fishtory the problem with inbreeding isn't usually caused by errors in replication though. It's caused by an increase in homozygosity (ie in an individual that is inbred more of their allele pairs at each locus will be identical).
If they can somehow prevent embryos with high homozygosity being born that would help reduce the deleterious effects of inbreeding, but they'd need a mechanism to check each embryo after fertilisation and dump or reabsorb the ones with high coefficient of inbreeding.
@@giftofthewild6665 check out the amazon molly :)
Great info as always, but how the heck can you see differences in females, esp. young ones???
The lack of that gonopodium "stick-like" , anal fin
Hey, I know this is an older video and know you have stuff going on after watching the newer video. Can you send me a message about your stock please?
This colony was actually sold to a friend, however- just watching the second half of my newest livestream - pretty much shows what I currently have available. Thanks for your interest, my friend.
Have you had them jump out of the tank?
No they're really good about staying calm 😌
@@Fishtory Thinking of getting a trio (1male 2 females) that's how the closest lfs sells them.1 tank has floating plants with 4 WCMMs and shrimp other is just shrimp with babies and no floaters. So thinking in the 1st tank they will go. I'm about sure my WCMMs are girls unfortunately lol. Also curious if you have experience with using magnets to hold stuff in place instead of suction cups?
(Rockin) I would have never thought I would have a jumper but I just lost my top top male (guy fiery) he was a green snake skin with a wild yellow and orange flame tail shaped exactly like a flame. Nearly had a heart attack when I first saw him. But he was wild and crazy 🔥😭
How much would u sale two pairs for im interested
Well they were 20 a trio, however i have given away my colony and the new owner of the main colony sells them for more. I sadly had my tank of them die off a few weeks ago due to bacteria.
K thanks
Would you send me a mixed group to get started in the guppy game?
I would have if I still had this line, but the video is almost 5 years old and I no longer keep this line. Sorry to say.
@@Fishtory oh I was just hoping to get a few random assorted guppies! Just to have a bunch of variety when they naturally breed. I’m a newb so not at the point of trying to breed anything specific
Tung.
I actually don't like the leopard pattern (lots of little spots) it looks messy.
I do like the guppies / endlers with 1 or 2 large spots.
I know: a female can become pregnant 6 times from 1 fertilization. In the pet store, males and females swim together, so the females have been fertilized by an unknown male. If I put females together with a male of my choice, will it take six months for the female to give birth to the male of my choice?
It could. They can choose to "skip the line" and basically select the most recent sperm too... so it's kind of a surprise. The only sure way to keep females and lines clean genetically, is to keep them alone with other females from the age of reproduction...which is only 3 or 4 months old
Are the female guppy or Endler?
endler
lyretail is pronounced like lIar tail.
Yes yes
Did I see a female with a yellow bottom sword? Save her!
Yes! I did she was my favorite for 2 years :)
Why don't breeders focus on making female endlers and guppies look pretty too? They are generally so dull looking.
I do! .... in fact that's my main goal the last 5 years. I think it comes down to needing 3 to 5 years to create a nice endler or guppy male strain and like 10 to 15 for females. That being said- Indonesia is making some huge advancements in that realm
@@Fishtory Good to know--thanks!
where are the new unique strains of guppy?, sorry to burst ya bubble but none of those are "new" nor unique, just have alot of different "trade names". they're cool though.those blue moscows look like culls.and some mixes will never breed true,due to the diff genes,you'll find out as you go along...
I ended up spending 3 years after this video, refining a strain called a "Lyre Tail Volta", this was the first step...well their babies were, then selecting my favorites and crossing them back to dad... then selecting those and pairing them off with each other or dad again....then split the colony, and at the end I had 4 tanks full of them. Sometime around August 2018 I had a video of the resulting strain, this video is about 5 or 6 years old now
New years resolution. Please make your videos shorter. .