yepp i tooo! And i am velomobil addicted too. Some day i will buy me a velomobil!!! I like your channal i follow it since years. Its a good placebo without having an own velomobil :) Gogogo!!!
Sinner sold it to Drymer. I bought my mango sports from Drymer in 2017. Drymer also made a newer model, the Hilgo, featuring an easily removable aero top. Unfortunately these are second generation velomobile and have lost its appeal to new buyers. The 3rd generation velomobiles are lighter and significantly quicker.
I love velos. They are so conceptually excellent. But they straddle the line between car and bicycle in a world not designed for such a half-way vehicle, with no room in the transport ecosystem to truly make mass adoption of velos possible. This was the same problem that doomed the Sinclair C5. On paper it's so brilliant, the most efficient possible solution for one person transport in some measure of comfort. But so long as you cannot safely share space with cars, and there's not dedicated paved paths for velos and similar vehicles (as in China) nor an extensive cross country bike path network (as in Denmark) you'll never see the mass adoption necessary to bring down the burdensomely high cost of these velos, via economies of scale. It's very frustrating. Like velos were designed for a better, different world that we don't live in. Where history unfolded differently, according to more environmentally conscious, far-seeing priorities. But the world we live in is already so firmly committed to automobiles that there's room for cars, or bikes, but nothing which falls in between those two. It's the same despair I feel when I look at innovative new light mass transit possibilities like Shweeb, Ultra PRT or Skytran. They would've been great solutions back before we committed to the existing solutions they are intended to replace. Now they can only be implemented in a few special circumstances where no such infrastructure yet exists, ala Masdar City and certain airports. It would be interesting to see a planned community designed around velo travel, in the way Peach Tree, Georgia is uniquely designed around the use of golf carts. Since velos need the same sort of asphalt paths, the same planning methodologies used for Peachtree Georgia could be copied and re-applied elsewhere. Perhaps they will one day tire of their golf carts and investigate the diversity of light EVs that can also make use of their path network, IDK.
@@KleineJoop I mean no offense, we are united in our appreciation of velomobiles. But throwing out the Netherlands as if it's a representative example when in fact it's extremely unique in the degree to which cycling is accommodated just makes it the exception which proves the rule imo. Their proliferation still feels like a pipe dream to me but I hope I'm as wrong as you say. My pessimism comes from experimenting for three years in Florida with velos and other light electric vehicles based on bicycle parts, running into non-stop problems with careless motorists and confused police. Granted this wasin 2008-2011 so maybe conditions have changed for the better since then, we can hope.
I've shared road space here in the uk with a variety of pedal powered things for 35 ish years with very little problems and zero accidents including motor transport. Most of the fear is in your head and we don't need super special expensive tarmac just for us .
And where I rode is nothing like the Netherlands. I also feel 10x safer in my velo than a normal bike. Get rid of your pessimism and get a velo to show the world it is infact possible.
Thank you all - it's a family affair - your son's growing fast. There's a lot there. What's the turning circle on one of those? Doesn't look like it can do tight stuff.
Always cool to see a mango! Basically great grandpa of the Alpha 7 :-) Oh and Magda has a really stylish coat!
yepp i tooo! And i am velomobil addicted too. Some day i will buy me a velomobil!!! I like your channal i follow it since years. Its a good placebo without having an own velomobil :) Gogogo!!!
Hai there John nice you are back..
What’s the max rider height that you think could fit into a Mango Sport?
Dude - I have heard you have several velos - that is just not fair.
Also is the Strada same as this ?
Do they no longer make Mangos then? I’ve always fancied one.
Yes, you can still get one: www.sinnerbikes.com/en/modellen/mango/3515-2/
I have a mango plus, it's great!
Sinner sold it to Drymer. I bought my mango sports from Drymer in 2017. Drymer also made a newer model, the Hilgo, featuring an easily removable aero top. Unfortunately these are second generation velomobile and have lost its appeal to new buyers. The 3rd generation velomobiles are lighter and significantly quicker.
Some people have a thinest back black. Maybe a DIY made with carbon?
For sure it's a good idea not too difficult to realize.
rather have that than a 4000$ trike any day, twice on sunday. Great deal.
I love velos. They are so conceptually excellent. But they straddle the line between car and bicycle in a world not designed for such a half-way vehicle, with no room in the transport ecosystem to truly make mass adoption of velos possible. This was the same problem that doomed the Sinclair C5. On paper it's so brilliant, the most efficient possible solution for one person transport in some measure of comfort. But so long as you cannot safely share space with cars, and there's not dedicated paved paths for velos and similar vehicles (as in China) nor an extensive cross country bike path network (as in Denmark) you'll never see the mass adoption necessary to bring down the burdensomely high cost of these velos, via economies of scale.
It's very frustrating. Like velos were designed for a better, different world that we don't live in. Where history unfolded differently, according to more environmentally conscious, far-seeing priorities. But the world we live in is already so firmly committed to automobiles that there's room for cars, or bikes, but nothing which falls in between those two. It's the same despair I feel when I look at innovative new light mass transit possibilities like Shweeb, Ultra PRT or Skytran. They would've been great solutions back before we committed to the existing solutions they are intended to replace. Now they can only be implemented in a few special circumstances where no such infrastructure yet exists, ala Masdar City and certain airports.
It would be interesting to see a planned community designed around velo travel, in the way Peach Tree, Georgia is uniquely designed around the use of golf carts. Since velos need the same sort of asphalt paths, the same planning methodologies used for Peachtree Georgia could be copied and re-applied elsewhere. Perhaps they will one day tire of their golf carts and investigate the diversity of light EVs that can also make use of their path network, IDK.
@@KleineJoop I mean no offense, we are united in our appreciation of velomobiles. But throwing out the Netherlands as if it's a representative example when in fact it's extremely unique in the degree to which cycling is accommodated just makes it the exception which proves the rule imo. Their proliferation still feels like a pipe dream to me but I hope I'm as wrong as you say. My pessimism comes from experimenting for three years in Florida with velos and other light electric vehicles based on bicycle parts, running into non-stop problems with careless motorists and confused police. Granted this wasin 2008-2011 so maybe conditions have changed for the better since then, we can hope.
I've shared road space here in the uk with a variety of pedal powered things for 35 ish years with very little problems and zero accidents including motor transport. Most of the fear is in your head and we don't need super special expensive tarmac just for us .
I've got one and have no problems with cars.
And where I rode is nothing like the Netherlands. I also feel 10x safer in my velo than a normal bike. Get rid of your pessimism and get a velo to show the world it is infact possible.
@@velokernow3696 Where do you live though? Drivers and driving culture is different around the world.
I think for a bit over 3K that looks rather good. 3K sounds a lot but it doesn't go very far these days…
Any reason on why used velo’s do keep their values.
Because they’re still a pretty rare, laboriously hand-built thing?
Thank you all - it's a family affair - your son's growing fast. There's a lot there. What's the turning circle on one of those? Doesn't look like it can do tight stuff.
It's pretty nimble, perfect fr around town.
Mango mango
Two minutes in, the velomobile was visible only a few seconds 🤷🏻♂️