Hans Hotter was one of the true greats who, like so many wonderful artists of the past, has fallen out of the collective consciousness. Happily, many of his recordings are still here to enjoy.
Concerning the violinconcertos I prefer Menuhin and the Robert Masters Chamber Orchestra on EMI, or Szeryng and the Academy of St. Martin under Neville Marriner on Philips. For the solo violinsonatas & Partitas , my first choice is also Henryk Szeryng on DG or Gidon Kremer on Philips. For the B -minor I would say Maazel and the RSO Berlin on Philips and the st. Matthew and st. John Passion I would chose Jochum with the RCO on Philips or Gardiner on Archiv. Of course these are personal choices....
Great work. I’ve sung Jesus several times (our 2019 Texas Bach Festival performance is on RUclips) but for this video I restricted it to Bach’s two most popular choral works. Agreed on Gardiner. His assertive approach worked especially well for St John.
@@GilZilkha Prima facie that must be true; however there is a consensus - and little doubt in my mind - that, prior to Harnoncourt & the original instruments / small orchestras revisionism, so to speak, Bach performances were simply grotesque - the scritchy-scratchy playing completely muddying the clarity required in the juxtaposition of parts while those warbling sopranos didn't even deign to follow the score. Then you take the preposterous speed of Beecham or the contrived slowness of Karajan (in some movements). One could go on. But my main beef is that the recordings you have selected are not the best available, have all been bettered since, surely?
First, these are not “my” selections. They are the consensus reference recordings. But if you think the Pinnock Brandenburgs and Gardiner choral works are outdated, you are in the distinct minority. If you think the artistry of Oistrakh, Casals, Fournier, Walcha, Richter, et. al. to be “grotesque” then I don’t know what to tell you. It would be more helpful next time if you specifically call out what you see as erroneous and name your alternative choices rather than repeating empty, generic HIP talking points.
@@GilZilkha 'empty generic talking points'? I never labelled any specific artist - incl. those you mention - as grotesque. I could cite the ones I did have in mind - if you want. But as to those you mention, Walcha is long outdated - Hurford, Bowyer, Alain, Herrick have all surpassed him. Gardiner is woeful - don't get me started on that predator. Suzuki and Herreweghe are the best for the cantatas, various others for the large choral works, Cafe Zimmerman for the Brandenburgs, Yo-Yo Ma for the cello suites .. shall I go on?
I can't stand Gardiner in Bach. He said Bach is not about spirituality and faith.😂 And now, that conductor is accused of tyranny by some artists, etc. Gardiner himself is in psycho treatment.😮
Hans Hotter was one of the true greats who, like so many wonderful artists of the past, has fallen out of the collective consciousness. Happily, many of his recordings are still here to enjoy.
For the Violin Sonatas, I've been listening to Andrew Manze's 2-disc set, and it is outstanding.
The Gould Goldberg recording is a consensus pick only for those people who've never heard any other recording.
I disagree, but it’s a very individual performance and not for everyone
@@GilZilkha I personally find that to be true of most Gould recordings. I recognize his talent, but there many other pianists I prefer to hear.
Concerning the violinconcertos I prefer Menuhin and the Robert Masters Chamber Orchestra on EMI, or Szeryng and the Academy of St. Martin under Neville Marriner on Philips. For the solo violinsonatas & Partitas , my first choice is also Henryk Szeryng on DG or Gidon Kremer on Philips. For the B -minor I would say Maazel and the RSO Berlin on Philips and the st. Matthew and st. John Passion I would chose Jochum with the RCO on Philips or Gardiner on Archiv. Of course these are personal choices....
what about st.john passion? Gardiner is great for st john passion IMO.
Great work. I’ve sung Jesus several times (our 2019 Texas Bach Festival performance is on RUclips) but for this video I restricted it to Bach’s two most popular choral works. Agreed on Gardiner. His assertive approach worked especially well for St John.
Things have moved on since those old, amateurish, reputation-based, recordings.
Musicianship never goes out of style
@@GilZilkha Prima facie that must be true; however there is a consensus - and little doubt in my mind - that, prior to Harnoncourt & the original instruments / small orchestras revisionism, so to speak, Bach performances were simply grotesque - the scritchy-scratchy playing completely muddying the clarity required in the juxtaposition of parts while those warbling sopranos didn't even deign to follow the score. Then you take the preposterous speed of Beecham or the contrived slowness of Karajan (in some movements). One could go on.
But my main beef is that the recordings you have selected are not the best available, have all been bettered since, surely?
First, these are not “my” selections. They are the consensus reference recordings. But if you think the Pinnock Brandenburgs and Gardiner choral works are outdated, you are in the distinct minority. If you think the artistry of Oistrakh, Casals, Fournier, Walcha, Richter, et. al. to be “grotesque” then I don’t know what to tell you. It would be more helpful next time if you specifically call out what you see as erroneous and name your alternative choices rather than repeating empty, generic HIP talking points.
@@GilZilkha 'empty generic talking points'? I never labelled any specific artist - incl. those you mention - as grotesque. I could cite the ones I did have in mind - if you want. But as to those you mention, Walcha is long outdated - Hurford, Bowyer, Alain, Herrick have all surpassed him. Gardiner is woeful - don't get me started on that predator. Suzuki and Herreweghe are the best for the cantatas, various others for the large choral works, Cafe Zimmerman for the Brandenburgs, Yo-Yo Ma for the cello suites .. shall I go on?
I’m glad you have your own preferences. Enjoy them, and thanks for chiming in.
I can't stand Gardiner in Bach. He said Bach is not about spirituality and faith.😂
And now, that conductor is accused of tyranny by some artists, etc. Gardiner himself is in psycho treatment.😮