Was waiting for this tests of the EV6 AWD !!! LOVE this EV, and honestly, it's a really good results considering every detail. Can't wait to watch more tests from your Kris !! Superb mate, keep it up !!! Greetings from Barcelona :=)
@@KrisRifa Your videos are excellent. When doing your charging test make sure "Winter Mode" is enabled. This is supposed to engage the battery heater to help it maintain warmer temps for acceleration and DCFC. It would be great if you could use an ODB dongle to show battery stats when charging (min/max battery temps, battery heater temp, etc.)
Your doing a test on a flat road. You have to do the test on a road with hills bad weather.full load,to get the true mileage from these car. So I do not recognise your test and no one should. Your are give miss leading test.SORRY
Can’t wait for this car to arrived soon in Toronto, I’m driving the KIA SOUL EV at the moment since 1 year and I’m very pleased with the comfort, interiors quality and range even in winter time which is similar to your country. Robert
Strange how different we can be as to the seats for example. I couldn't find a comfortable seating position in the EV6. Not so bad in the Ioniq 5. Just goes to show how important it is to actually test the cars yourself before making a decision. 😅
Exactly, we all have different bodies - so how comfortable we find the seats will vary. You should always test the car before buying, and your comment is proof of that! 😊👌
I was in agony in the EV6 and Ioniq 5 seats after 15 minutes, the seats were not for my shape, just ordered ID4 Max Pro purely as it is comfortable, dealer also had a cancelled order which I grabbed..........excellent.
Agreed... I had Nissan LEAF and Kia Niro EV... LEAF seats so much more comfortable (soft), whereas Niro EV seats too hard (firm)... when I drove LEAF, I didnt think about the seats, when driving Niro EV, I am constantly reminded of the firm/hard seats (not comfy on short or long trips).
Interesting review, and possibly on the conservative side in terms of range. Just did a 354 km motorway trip at 5 to 7 degrees, mostly wet, started on 90% SoC finished with 4%. Pretty impressed.
Barely above 200 miles. That's useless. Unless and until EVs are giving me a 300 mile plus range and and I can find a charger easily and can recharge in half an hour or less, EVs are just no use as far as I am concerned
@@paulwood5803 actually it's equivalent to a full battery range of 262 miles which is pretty good for a wet winter's day. And in a car which charges 10% to 80% in 20 minutes on an ultra-rapid. Fine for me, sorry it doesn't work for you. Cheerio.
"Estimated range of the Kia EV6 with e-AWD is 274 miles, due in part to a unique front-motor disconnect device that Kia estimates increases range by 6 percent." The EV6 is extremely aerodynamic. Kia reports that the EV6 achieves a 0.28 coefficient of drag, slightly better than 0.288 for the Ioniq 5 (Tesla Model Y is 0.23). EPA mpge combined city/fwy Ioniq 5 AWD (Long Range) 98 110/87 EV6 AWD (Long Range) 105 116/94
I just drove to French Alps and back with the Ioniq 5. Similar temperature, lots of rain, uphill and driving long stretches of 130/140 km/h, I got a consumption between 280 and 300 Wh/km. Pretty much in line with your EV6 results given the higher speed I drove at. When driving back through Belgium with mild rain, 3°C, hilly terrain, mostly 120 km/h but also some stretches of Provincial roads, the consumption was more like 220 Wh/km. Driving through Holland at 100 km/h, the consumption was 180 (some mild rain) although a little bit warmer between 6°C and 10°C. I really don't understand why your results with the Ioniq 5 were so much worse. I have a LR RWD, currently on 19" Hankook winter tyres.
Unless you can give us exact data with real average speed, it is hard if not impossible to compare results 😊 "Similar temperature, lots of rain, uphill and driving long stretches of 130/140 km/h" Sure, but what was you measured average speed? If I am not mistaken on these roads you will have stretches of lower speed limits, which will dramatically reduce your average speed. This test is a strictly motorway test, and the results ALLWAYS speak for them selves. And to get this average speed it means going 120kph on the speedometer for basically the whole test. "I really don't understand why your results with the Ioniq 5 were so much worse. I have a LR RWD, currently on 19" Hankook winter tyres" You kind of answered your own question, the Ioniq 5 I drove had AWD and was on 20" wheels. RWD on 19" wheels will be quite a bit more efficient. Under are the results Bjørn got, which are in line with mine. So there is nothing "strange" or "funny" about my results 😊 Ioniq 5 @90kph 461km @120 289km Test done July 2021 EV6 @90kph 402km @120kph 274km Test done November 2021
@@KrisRifa yes, I'm not bashing your tests. I personally do not have the patience to do what you do in terms of standardised testing (and even then: conditions will never be exactly the same), so I much appreciate your efforts. I didn't call them 'funny' or suspicious....
@@KrisRifa Assume you mean Ioniq 5 and not classic Ioniq as he has tested the classic in both winter(very winter) with his original test and later tests were in warmer weather.
Another reviewer in the UK Commented about how the headrests in the EV6 pushed his head forward too much. It looks like you didn't have this problem. Was this due to an adjustment on the headrest?
If range is the key metric then clearly the car with the larger battery has an advantage. Hyundai have handicapped the Ionic 5 by (temporarily, for 2021/early 2022) reducing the battery capacity. Allowing for temperature, there is no difference in kWh/100km in your tests between the EV6 and Ionic 5.
So our RWD on 19" wheels should do even better. I haven't had the chance to try it on the motorway yet. And yes it's a very quiet and comfortable car to drive. Nice test.
Since it was such a mucky day, do you by chance have a photo or small video of the rear of the EV6. I am curious about how clear the rear window was by the time you were charging.
Please note that running in eco mode the front motor is disconnected so effectively RWD. This the vehicle I have and think it is great, cold weather causes a big drop in battery efficiency but this is the same for any EV.
Wow, we have the same weather. So, I'm still happy with my GTX. It's the best car I've ever owned (about 20). It has about the same consumption at these conditions. The EV6 is definitely a very nice car!
This was with the 4WD version. I would to see the outcome doing the same text under the same or similar conditions with the RWD version with 19 inch wheels.
So what is the highway speeds Consumption rate efficiency of the more affordable cars out there that are still available, like Hyundai Kona & Ionic Electric, Kia Niro & Soul, Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt, any others? Do they fall within the 19.6 to 25.9 kWh/100km of these leading models?
Given that in Quebec (Canada) we have similar weather, I find this very interresting. I am really undecided between the Ioniq 5 and the EV6. Hopefully I can see them soon in person. I own the Ioniq 1st gen 2017 and I love it. Even with its small battery I get good consumption rate and still reasonably fast in DC charging. Hyundai knows EV.
The Ioniq 5 will be a big jump over the Ioniq, that car imho is not very visually appealing at all, but too some that's not a concern. I am expecting demo drive of Ioniq 5 in next couple weeks here in BC
This car needs to be tested on German highways where the average speed is 160 km (100mph). After residing in Germany, driving on the highway with speeds between 110-120 km is brutal.
Great video, again Kris! But your comment about the daylight being shorter in Oslo compared to western Norway might need some clarification 🙈 this time of the year, days are shorter in Bergen, than in Oslo. And it has nothing to do with east-west, daylight depends on north-south 😊
I said the sun sets earlier in Oslo than in Bergen, and not that the day is longer in Bergen 😊Because Oslo and Bergen are in the same time zone, but Bergen is approximate 500km west of the Bergen the sun sets around half an hour later. But it is also true that the sun rises half an hour later in the morning as well 😊 At the "extreme" ends Stockholm is also in the same time zone as Bergen, and sets a whole hour earlier!
I have bought one - so many thanks for the testing, which convince me even more. A pity… that the delivery time is approximately 1 year (for Danish customers).
In Teslabjron Test.. Tesla is better in Kris test Audi or Porche is better... I own Model 3 , ionic 5 and Kia e Niro... it don't really matter which I drive they all give almost the same range in same conditions..
Isn`t 248 wh/km a rather high consumption in mild temperature and consumtion closer to Audi E-tron 55 territory. I did basically the same streetch and speed in same condition today with196 wh/km in a model S with no range mode or slow driving. But 19 inch wheels. So I don`t understand why you are so impressed with 248, Kris...
E-Tron 55 won't even come close to this consumption in these temperatures, I am guessing the E-Tron 55 would be very close to 30kWh/100km. Considering the low temperatures, the size (height and ground clearance) etc of this car, it being AWD and on 20" wheels and the rainy weather this is impressive - especially compared to the Ioniq 5. Conditions today where very different, the temperature was 3-4 degrees milder and the roads where dry and it was sunny on this stretch of road (I drove there today as well). So if this test was done today the results would have been even better. What is important to note is that for these results to be comparable and useful you will have to drive the EXACT same route at the EXATCT same speed, otherwise comparing your "results" is hard if not impossible. Also the Model S is low slung saloon so it will of course be more efficient than an SUV, and your Model S being on 19" wheels even more efficient. So it is hard to compare without doing the exact same test with your car. Just out of curiosity what Model S do you have?
@@KrisRifa Drives a model S Raven AWD from late 2019. I do this streetch between Skedsmokorset and Brumunddal often at work and gets a consumtion above 200 wh/km only in heavy rain or heavy snowy cold weather. Or when driving 15-20 above speed limit.
In the Ioniq 5 its defence, u tested that in september and this car now in december, the updates on both platforms have done a great deal for the efficiency of both cars. I fair way to go about it would be to retest the I5.
I’m interested in when you do these tests do you use the car’s stated efficiency or do you cross check it be recharging and calculating actual kWh’s used versus kilometres? Assuming the Kia actually tells you how many kWhs are used while recharging. Just some cars tend to be pretty inaccurate on kWhs used per 100km.
Great video again. The compiled table with all tested models is available? We only see a fraction of it on the video but it would nice to have it complete. And by the way, one question. Do you known if the range is linear regarding the SOC? For example, under the same conditions of course, the distance that you can get between 100 and 90% SOC is similar to the distance when the battery goes from 30 to 20% SOC? I have a PHEV and my impression is that as the battery depletes, the range I can get with the same % also goes down. Just saw that Matej pointed out here the same issue.
Kris, there seems to be a big demand of a tutorial how to get decent charge speed in winter, especially with those "800 V systems". Maybe you could do some best practices and show results with car scanner, if available.
@@laloajuria4678 In e-GMP the heatpump seems to work against you (if fastcharging is the goal) and I saw two e-tron GT charging only in the 50s kW even after driving a bit and the owners don't know what they did wrong or if it is the fault of the charger. ruclips.net/video/XTiDx6QcQXc/видео.htmlm35s ruclips.net/user/shortszZjF-DsUxnM
There was an interesting test in south Korea a few week ago using Ioniq5 and model Y, running side by side from Seoul to Busan on a same day. General consensus on battery efficiency is Tesla is way better than any other companies as of 2021, but it turned out that both showed very similar results when it comes to efficiency. I will still wait for at least four to five years before switching to EV, but I am happy customers have now more options other than ugly (just my opinion) Tesla. :)
In my opinion EV6 looks like a Bajoran from Babylon 5. Ugly... Ioniq5 has a nice style but ugly colors. Needs bright white or red instead of everything dull gray. Tesla Model 3 looks like a sqashed catfish and Model Y like a squashed catfish a kid as blown up via bicycle pump. Funny!
@@IanMcc1000 🤣😂🤣😂I wondered when anybody saw the error! I have not viewed any TiVi for more than a decade now. But the hair style was memorable. Just like the EV6. That one is just not for me.
The EV6 is pretty smart with it's motors though and as he was doingthis test with Eco-mode on he's essentially running an RWD version. The difference is as low as roughly 20 km in real driving
Here in Canada, Tesla is still only option for a one car family. When charging options become much more plentiful, and at least equal to the Tesla supercharger network, other EV brands/models like this nice looking Hyundai will start to make sense. I have experienced non-Tesla EVs and they very tough to live with because of lack of charging infrastructure
Honestly most EV cars fail in Canada… including Tesla. The distances and the cold here make them fairly impractical unless u can charge at ur destination and your house. The range loss from being parked and having to warm up, combined with long commutes on highways, along with large snow loads all kill mileage. The model 3 is alright but it’s a tad low to the ground for heavy snowfall and it’s still like $15k more than it’s competitors.
@@JohnSmith-qj7hd well, I have a Model Y and it works quite good in winter. Very little loss of battery range while sitting (a week parked will drop battery by 5-7%) I don’t have a home charger yet, have exclusively supercharged for over a year already (25,000kms) Going off the beaten path to hinterland Canada would be a challenge and not convenient at all.
@@pabloyuste1294 how long is your commute? I looked at buying one for commuting. 140km each way. Figured a car rated for 500km could do it no problem. But driving 120km/hr (drops it down to 348km range off the get go) plus the 50km ish range loss in the cold to warm up, plus the range loss in winter driving from snow, denser air, running the heat. Then the battery reserve so you don’t damage the batteries…. Then factor in it doesn’t qualify for rebates and it’s an $80,000 car… and it can’t do a 280km commute without damaging the batteries or stopping to charge. A $23,000 Kia Soul can do that commute and comes with a longer warranty..
@@JohnSmith-qj7hd I think your calcs are too pessimistic. In cold weather (say -15deg) with a snow covered road and a nice toasty cabin, you should get 325 without any problem if you leave from home at 95%. Don’t listen to the misinformation about damaging your battery- lots of data to show that this just isn’t the case. My battery has lost about 3% capacity since new - all supercharging for 25,000 kms. All Tesla’s end up 5-7% loss after 5 years, some a bit more others less. Then it stays like that. At your workplace, could you charge at all while parked? Even adding 30-40 kms over a 6-8 hr trickle charge (110v) would give you more price of mind. Yes it’s expensive - but there is a tax break if you use the car for business. (Not sure why strikethtough happened above sorry)
@@pabloyuste1294 I wish I could plug in. But the option just isn’t there. You are correct that little top up would make a world of difference (even just warming it up). And give me the option to drive out and grab something for lunch ;) or to pick something up during the day if plans change. Hopefully the new batteries come out sooner rather than later to bump up the range a bit.
Another great video Kris. I wonder, how do you get so smooth footage while you are driving? It’s all about the camera and lens with OSS or you use a gimbal? And, if so, which one? Keep up the good work.
I am shocked about the results, too. 300 km range with full batteries are ridiculous. With a consumption of 25 kWh/100km you'll need at least 125 kWh batteries to get a range of at least 500km. Shorter ranges are no option for me to switch to an EV. 60% of WLTP range. The car industry lies again as with gas consumption. The ordinary consumer should get at least 90% of WLTP. Otherwise this value is non-sense. It is too much money for what you get.
That's why PHEVs are there! I own one and it fits very well. Additionally you are not limited to maximum speeds of something like 160km/h. But hey, under normal circumstances (10-30ºC) with a 65 kWh battery and "gentle" driving you can easily achieve 500-550km on a single charge.
This test is nothing like the wltp and also isn’t necessarily real world conditions. For city driving alone it is possible to do better than the wltp value and worse when running up and down a highway like this as you have just witnessed.
190mile range, no wonder many people won’t buy an EV yet. For COP26 in Glasgow, Sky News drove there in an EV from London that took 11hrs to drive 413miles. In an ICE car the drive normally takes 7hrs. Unless your doing local trips, the price of an EV versus a standard car is usually about £15,000 in the UK so not cost effective. I’ll wait until they become much less expensive. Won’t have to hang around whilst waiting for it to charge up either,
I am actually quite interested in the EV6 RWD version, with 19in tyres (GT-line equipment). On summer ones could it go about 320 km at 120 km/h. Do you think it would be possible?
Downhill and wind from the back : yea . Wind in front ? But look promising .See range test at 130km in low temp. ruclips.net/video/uuk1QCD9UbU/видео.html
Well WLTP is the standardized measurement used here in Europe, so it kind of is the standard for measuring range 🙈 Watch the video again, maybe you will be able to catch what is shocking 😉
kia/hyundais' blind spot monitoring during blinkers on utilizes surround view camaras which are located at the edge of the side mirrors and also exposed outward (same on their ICE cars) its just a part of the safety support features rather than a full replacement of the mirrors
@@chee-tah- i know what that is and why it is there. But there are attempts to replace mirrors with cameras and it ends up like that! I never wrote that those cameras replace mirrors in kia EV6.
Hi Kris! I like your videos but please skip the klick bate captions in the thumbnail. You don’t need it with the quality and content you have. Keep up the good work!
Does EV6 have lower drag coefficient than Ioniq5? Nice video and comparison table. I just don't understand the "% of WLTP range". This says nothing about the car, you are basically evaluating the WLTP test (and how bad it is to assess real life consumption, as it is for ICE cars). Would rather see comparison with price link, for example range/investment in km/NOK or charging cost for 20k km per year.
Well, people just don't buy cars based on these figures. It may be a theoretically interesting exercise but nobody will rely on that for buying a car. People buy cars based on passion, net price (well, discounts...), eventually low interest. I guess nobody will make that type of complex calculation because other issues are more relevant (discounts on price, low interest (interest-free sometimes). For example, maintenance costs will destroy completely a rank based on cost/20km just in terms of electricity consumption. Check the difference between a Toyota maintenance service and a BMW service and you'll see my point! ;-) I also like to make the comparisons you propose, but hey, these are simply not realistic for a buying decision... Don't you think that manufacturers could make models with consumption lower than 15 kWh? But then at what cost? Nobody will buy those! Check the Dacia Spring and you'll see my point!
Can someone explain what is the interest to put these huge wheels on EV (or even on ICEV) as far as it's a disadvantage regarding consumption, comfort etc...??
Hyundai and ford USA have found the size of the tires means nothing with electric motors. That's because it's based around torque, also large tires help with free rolling distance
The size ( or more importantly the weight ) does affect consumption in stop and go traffic , you alsways have to get a high weight into movement which results in higher consumption. On the highway however the bigger tyres dont make a difference as you already brought the weight into movement and with bigger wheels you may get better effiency at higher speed from the electric motor ( same goes for ICE )
Waiting on my demo drive of the Ioniq 5 Long Range RWD here in BC Canada, pre ordered cars have arrived at Port, press cars are making their rounds. Its very close. Dealership expects I will have mine within a few weeks, I estimate mid Jan. If the demo drive plays out in favour and I find everything to fit what I need I will proceed w purchase. If not I will wait on my pre pre order of EV6 which will show up sometime around May/June 2022 dealership told me. The efficiency and range numbers for the colder weather are nice to see and better than the Ioniq 5, I just prefer the interior design and exterior design of the Ioniq 5 a bit more than EV6 but until I test drive one I cant say anything really because current owners opinions are subjective, what works for one may not work for another but overall the owner impressions are positive. Lets hope they can support the software and grow it without too many issues, I don't want to buy a Tesla..... Next option was Polestar 2 or GV60
@@KrisRifa sorry, missed that bit - first video of yours I’d seen. That’s a good test, as the vast majority of other RUclips reviewers aren’t that disciplined. I’ll subsidise 👍
How can this test be fake? 🙈😂 And the results are the results dude, how exactly was the test done poorly to get worse results? Driving with the brake pedal depressed? 🙈 It is funny that people get mad at me because the Ioniq 5 performed poorly, shows how powerful and dumb fanboyism is 😬 The EV6 has a 5kWh bigger battery than the Ioniq 5. That with it being more aerodynamic gives this car lower consumption and better range, it's as simple as that.
@@KrisRifa where did i say its fake? Where did i say im mad? Why are you so deffensive? But what I did say is that your test and Bjorn test produced very different results. Thay can not both be correct. Someone did a bad test. I will nit decide who does better tests, you or Bjorn. But you could lool his test and acknowledge that your test and his produced very different result of Io5 and Kev6 range.
@@RomanRoman-xi3dv Well I actually had the same with a lot of tests and cars. I drove a few EV's before and the only few things I can conlude are: 1. Even if you have 15 "same EV cars" they al perform a bit different, the battery sizes and how they react / work in real life are mindblowing and linear 2. I have a Polestar 2 dual motor at the moment, the last 10% of the battery are almost twice as big as the rest (so the scale is not linear) you just cant conclude total range en total efficiency if you are not using the total battery and fully charge it back to 100% (and do a readout on the kWh) 3. The colder it gets, the more you benefit from aerodynamics, due toe the air resistance is multiplied by 3 times the weight of a m3 of air. So a Tesla or in this case de EV6 are doing better in colder conditions compared tot warmer condintions, just because there low cW values. So probably, the tests done by Bjorn were in warmer conditions, different kind of tyres, and Bjorn is also doing the total calculations on his actual read outs of the cars. So they are both right, Kris is more like the most of us relying on the figs the car is presenting you, Bjorn is going Einstein in his figures. Thans for all the uploads, you're testing was convincing me to change from tesla to polestar and I'm nog regretting it for one bit.
@@RomanRoman-xi3dv Dude, you literally wrote "Is this test real?" That directly implies it is fake 🙈😂 Not real = fake. "Where did i say im mad?" Where did I write you are mad? Not sure what you are on about here. What did Bjørn get in these cars? You have to supply us with more information than "Bjorn did get similar Hyund and Kia range. Not to be negative, but one of you two did a bad test.". That does not help anybody. What was the average speed? Surface? Wheel sizes? Temperature? Wind direction? etc etc etc. "But you could lool his test and acknowledge that your test and his produced very different result of Io5 and Kev6 range." Again, what test? Do you have a link? can you share the results? How exactly do you do a bad range test? I may seem defensive because you are making these accusations that one of us "did it wrong" when you share no information what so ever... 😂🙈
Still a good option, not perfect, but still on the list. One thing that amazes me is how inexpensive they are to lease compared to other EV’s with the same price.
Are you sure you're not just seeing special offers for the EV6? My local dealer here in Sweden currently has an introductory offer of ~460 euros per month, with reference to a "regular price" of ~700.
@@outsider_within No, I am looking at an full operational lease for 837 € a month (full option AWD model). Tesla model 3 LR and Skoda Enyak and Polestar 2 (AWD with premium pack and pilot pack) go for around 930 a month. (full operational lease for 4 years and 160k). Leasing company does get a permanent discount of arond 12% for the Kia. These prises are VAT excluded since it is a corporate lease.
Doesn't battery size make a difference - the Ioniq5 was 72 the Kia was 77. If it does make a difference why didn't you mention that? North American Ioniq5 will have the 77. You seem to just not like the Ioniq.
Did they update the software??? This is much better results for the EV6 awd than every other test… Looks very promising 😁 Kris, thanks for an excellent test!
Comparing results to the wltp is a waste of time in my opinion. If you want to do that you should pick a route that represents the wltp cycle and then do your comparison. Wltp is to enable comparison across vehicles and for the way perhaps 80% of the European population drive their cars. 10% might spend all their time in traffic and do better and the other 10% will drive up and down freeways and do worse.
I notice you are only doing 110Kph most people dont drive this slow on the motorway on a really long journey. I would like to see a test at say 130KPH which is more realisic
Average measured speed is around 111-112kph, which is close to 120kph on the speedometer 😊 speed limit in Norway is 110kph, so I can’t do this test any faster than that
Shocking is not the right word…its sounds to negativ. Wonderfull is the right word. Actually it beats almost all cars…. I‘m glad to pick up our car tomorow ….yeah on 19“.
Idk if you have noticed but you are repeating yourself when you speak so much and even more than before now hehe. If you can tone it down 50% maybe? Other than that i love the content and keep it up!❤️
I'm not sure it's "very, very impressive" given the range is 12% less than a Model Y while having a battery capacity 10% higher. That shows in the consumption figure which is 20% higher. Yes I know the temperature was roughly 5 deg warmer when the Y was tested but no way that accounts for that deficit. Don't get me wrong, I really like the EV6 and would buy one over the Ioniq 5 due to the better range even though I *love* the 80s styling and pixel lights of the 5. But I'd hold off on describing its performance as "very, very impressive" until they match Teslas efficiency numbers vs just bests its style over efficiency cousin no?
Of course these videos are basically entertainment. And they fit the purpose!! However, they lack any scientific basis. Even comparative videos with different models are super naif. On the other hand, WLTP tests are scientifically sound. They are based on standard procedures (we may argue if they are realistic but...) and they are check by regulatory authorities. That's why these are the ONLY meaningful figures for cars consumption/range... What I believe should be mandatory was a different type of testing covering different driving conditions. This will allow the calculation of a standard deviation for the consumption and therefore the ability to inform the consumers not only of an average consumption, but also minimum and maximum consumption (or range) based on a range statistical distribution estimated, again, under a very well defined protocol, similar to the WLTP. Car manufacturers have all these figures of course, but they just don't advertise them because it is simply not mandatory.
Was waiting for this tests of the EV6 AWD !!! LOVE this EV, and honestly, it's a really good results considering every detail. Can't wait to watch more tests from your Kris !! Superb mate, keep it up !!! Greetings from Barcelona :=)
Yeah these results are amazing actually :) Thanks mate!
@@KrisRifa Your videos are excellent. When doing your charging test make sure "Winter Mode" is enabled. This is supposed to engage the battery heater to help it maintain warmer temps for acceleration and DCFC. It would be great if you could use an ODB dongle to show battery stats when charging (min/max battery temps, battery heater temp, etc.)
Your doing a test on a flat road. You have to do the test on a road with hills bad weather.full load,to get the true mileage from these car. So I do not recognise your test and no one should. Your are give miss leading test.SORRY
@@ianmcgregor6067 hahaha! This is the dumbest comment I’ve read in a long time 🙈😂 Haha! This really made me laugh 😆
@@KrisRifa I will not respond to your remarks. GOOD BYE
Can’t wait for this car to arrived soon in Toronto, I’m driving the KIA SOUL EV at the moment since 1 year and I’m very pleased with the comfort, interiors quality and range even in winter time which is similar to your country. Robert
I really like your channel, you are a very authentic person. Keep going.
Strange how different we can be as to the seats for example. I couldn't find a comfortable seating position in the EV6. Not so bad in the Ioniq 5. Just goes to show how important it is to actually test the cars yourself before making a decision. 😅
Exactly, we all have different bodies - so how comfortable we find the seats will vary. You should always test the car before buying, and your comment is proof of that! 😊👌
I was in agony in the EV6 and Ioniq 5 seats after 15 minutes, the seats were not for my shape, just ordered ID4 Max Pro purely as it is comfortable, dealer also had a cancelled order which I grabbed..........excellent.
This. The Enyaq dash cuts into my knee, no way of getting around something like that.
@@alexanderdunning6586 Most cars annoy my knee. Maybe the biggest plus of the Ioniq-5!
Agreed... I had Nissan LEAF and Kia Niro EV... LEAF seats so much more comfortable (soft), whereas Niro EV seats too hard (firm)... when I drove LEAF, I didnt think about the seats, when driving Niro EV, I am constantly reminded of the firm/hard seats (not comfy on short or long trips).
Interesting review, and possibly on the conservative side in terms of range. Just did a 354 km motorway trip at 5 to 7 degrees, mostly wet, started on 90% SoC finished with 4%. Pretty impressed.
What speed though? 70, 80 or 90mph?
what was your avarage speed? i m thinkin of purchaging one
@@arjanvandehaar5049 overall, from memory, about 100km/h, but about 50% at 110 to 120km/h.
Barely above 200 miles. That's useless. Unless and until EVs are giving me a 300 mile plus range and and I can find a charger easily and can recharge in half an hour or less, EVs are just no use as far as I am concerned
@@paulwood5803 actually it's equivalent to a full battery range of 262 miles which is pretty good for a wet winter's day. And in a car which charges 10% to 80% in 20 minutes on an ultra-rapid. Fine for me, sorry it doesn't work for you. Cheerio.
Can't wait to see the 615km challenge!
Kris, is there any way to make your test results available so people can cross-compare themselves?
"Estimated range of the Kia EV6 with e-AWD is 274 miles, due in part to a unique front-motor disconnect device that Kia estimates increases range by 6 percent." The EV6 is extremely aerodynamic. Kia reports that the EV6 achieves a 0.28 coefficient of drag, slightly better than 0.288 for the Ioniq 5 (Tesla Model Y is 0.23).
EPA mpge combined city/fwy
Ioniq 5 AWD (Long Range) 98 110/87
EV6 AWD (Long Range) 105 116/94
At 9:19 the car is long showing a snowflake on the battery SoC symbol, I think the car was “cold gating”. 😎
I just drove to French Alps and back with the Ioniq 5. Similar temperature, lots of rain, uphill and driving long stretches of 130/140 km/h, I got a consumption between 280 and 300 Wh/km. Pretty much in line with your EV6 results given the higher speed I drove at. When driving back through Belgium with mild rain, 3°C, hilly terrain, mostly 120 km/h but also some stretches of Provincial roads, the consumption was more like 220 Wh/km. Driving through Holland at 100 km/h, the consumption was 180 (some mild rain) although a little bit warmer between 6°C and 10°C.
I really don't understand why your results with the Ioniq 5 were so much worse. I have a LR RWD, currently on 19" Hankook winter tyres.
may be due to tires, check if Kris got 20'' wheels
Unless you can give us exact data with real average speed, it is hard if not impossible to compare results 😊
"Similar temperature, lots of rain, uphill and driving long stretches of 130/140 km/h" Sure, but what was you measured average speed? If I am not mistaken on these roads you will have stretches of lower speed limits, which will dramatically reduce your average speed. This test is a strictly motorway test, and the results ALLWAYS speak for them selves. And to get this average speed it means going 120kph on the speedometer for basically the whole test.
"I really don't understand why your results with the Ioniq 5 were so much worse. I have a LR RWD, currently on 19" Hankook winter tyres"
You kind of answered your own question, the Ioniq 5 I drove had AWD and was on 20" wheels. RWD on 19" wheels will be quite a bit more efficient.
Under are the results Bjørn got, which are in line with mine. So there is nothing "strange" or "funny" about my results 😊
Ioniq 5
@90kph 461km
@120 289km
Test done July 2021
EV6
@90kph 402km
@120kph 274km
Test done November 2021
@@KrisRifa yes, I'm not bashing your tests. I personally do not have the patience to do what you do in terms of standardised testing (and even then: conditions will never be exactly the same), so I much appreciate your efforts. I didn't call them 'funny' or suspicious....
If you had the RWD versus the 2 motor 4WD that makes a huge difference.
Great car, far better looking than the Tesla Y. But IMO the Ioniq 5 is just a head turner and I prefer the I5 even considering how good is the EV6.
Don't forget Kris, the Ioniq 28kWh for efficient EV. Still the king in efficiency as Bjorn has proven multiple times.
I am referring til the Ioniq 5 which has a 72,6kWh battery. And Bjørns test was done in July with temperatures of 21c to 25c on dry roads 😊
@@KrisRifa Assume you mean Ioniq 5 and not classic Ioniq as he has tested the classic in both winter(very winter) with his original test and later tests were in warmer weather.
Another reviewer in the UK
Commented about how the headrests in the EV6 pushed his head forward too much. It looks like you didn't have this problem. Was this due to an adjustment on the headrest?
If range is the key metric then clearly the car with the larger battery has an advantage. Hyundai have handicapped the Ionic 5 by (temporarily, for 2021/early 2022) reducing the battery capacity. Allowing for temperature, there is no difference in kWh/100km in your tests between the EV6 and Ionic 5.
A decrease of 3 degrees Celsius equals approximately 1% difference in air drag. Simple physics. At these speeds air drag is the dominant factor.
For MY 2022 The Ioniq 5 will get the same 77kWh battery, so better to compare the two with that upgrade when it comes to range.
the Ioniq 5 did quite well as well considering its battery capacity is 93,8% of the EV6 and range of 91,4% according to your data
But the weather difference is crucial. The Ioniq 5 would have far less in the same conditions
So our RWD on 19" wheels should do even better. I haven't had the chance to try it on the motorway yet. And yes it's a very quiet and comfortable car to drive. Nice test.
Since it was such a mucky day, do you by chance have a photo or small video of the rear of the EV6. I am curious about how clear the rear window was by the time you were charging.
Please note that running in eco mode the front motor is disconnected so effectively RWD. This the vehicle I have and think it is great, cold weather causes a big drop in battery efficiency but this is the same for any EV.
Wow, we have the same weather. So, I'm still happy with my GTX. It's the best car I've ever owned (about 20). It has about the same consumption at these conditions. The EV6 is definitely a very nice car!
Pro tip: skip the first 2 minutes of each video, it’s mostly fluff.
This was with the 4WD version. I would to see the outcome doing the same text under the same or similar conditions with the RWD version with 19 inch wheels.
Interesting result and comments on comfort too - I think your spreadsheet of comparisons needs to be done at the same ambient temp to be useful though
What happened to the EQS???? I am surprised seeing another car 😂
What do you mean? I have the EQS next week 🙈😂
Take a look at the date in your listing. It states 13-12-2020
and all the way with your camera/smartphone in your right hand ?
A couple car companies have said the size of the wheels doesn't matter on electric motors for range
But it does
ok, but use your brain and look at range ratings w/ different wheels....
@@laloajuria4678 even tesla subtracts around 25km of range for 1 inch bigger rims
@@lukass.6609 and you know how they inflate their #s lol.
@Kris Rifa In the US EV6 claims to give a 310miles range...that's 498KM...you are getting 303KM!! is the European version different?
So what is the highway speeds Consumption rate efficiency of the more affordable cars out there that are still available, like Hyundai Kona & Ionic Electric, Kia Niro & Soul, Nissan Leaf, Chevy Bolt, any others? Do they fall within the 19.6 to 25.9 kWh/100km of these leading models?
Have you any plans to test the MG long range ZS? Be interesting to see how a lower priced EV compares.
That thing looks great!
So 20% worse efficiency than model 3 or model y is great?
Given that in Quebec (Canada) we have similar weather, I find this very interresting. I am really undecided between the Ioniq 5 and the EV6. Hopefully I can see them soon in person.
I own the Ioniq 1st gen 2017 and I love it. Even with its small battery I get good consumption rate and still reasonably fast in DC charging. Hyundai knows EV.
The Ioniq 5 will be a big jump over the Ioniq, that car imho is not very visually appealing at all, but too some that's not a concern. I am expecting demo drive of Ioniq 5 in next couple weeks here in BC
It seems that you now and then fail to use the turn signal. Is that OK?
What speed did you travel at?
More range than Ioniq 5 is not mind blowing. Larger battery and better aerodynamics (the EV6 is 10 cm /4" lower).
This car needs to be tested on German highways where the average speed is 160 km (100mph). After residing in Germany, driving on the highway with speeds between 110-120 km is brutal.
Great video, again Kris!
But your comment about the daylight being shorter in Oslo compared to western Norway might need some clarification 🙈 this time of the year, days are shorter in Bergen, than in Oslo. And it has nothing to do with east-west, daylight depends on north-south 😊
I said the sun sets earlier in Oslo than in Bergen, and not that the day is longer in Bergen 😊Because Oslo and Bergen are in the same time zone, but Bergen is approximate 500km west of the Bergen the sun sets around half an hour later. But it is also true that the sun rises half an hour later in the morning as well 😊 At the "extreme" ends Stockholm is also in the same time zone as Bergen, and sets a whole hour earlier!
Any word on how much it's going to cost?
I have bought one - so many thanks for the testing, which convince me even more.
A pity… that the delivery time is approximately 1 year (for Danish customers).
No way I would wait over year... By that time there is a better car available and covid logistics has setteled.
Kris. When you will test the xpeng p1 and p5?
In Teslabjron Test.. Tesla is better in Kris test Audi or Porche is better... I own Model 3 , ionic 5 and Kia e Niro... it don't really matter which I drive they all give almost the same range in same conditions..
Wow, Björn looks a little different?
You shoould make a line in the exel sheets with tire with, weight of the car and cd vs the range and temperature.
Isn`t 248 wh/km a rather high consumption in mild temperature and consumtion closer to Audi E-tron 55 territory. I did basically the same streetch and speed in same condition today with196 wh/km in a model S with no range mode or slow driving. But 19 inch wheels. So I don`t understand why you are so impressed with 248, Kris...
E-Tron 55 won't even come close to this consumption in these temperatures, I am guessing the E-Tron 55 would be very close to 30kWh/100km. Considering the low temperatures, the size (height and ground clearance) etc of this car, it being AWD and on 20" wheels and the rainy weather this is impressive - especially compared to the Ioniq 5.
Conditions today where very different, the temperature was 3-4 degrees milder and the roads where dry and it was sunny on this stretch of road (I drove there today as well). So if this test was done today the results would have been even better.
What is important to note is that for these results to be comparable and useful you will have to drive the EXACT same route at the EXATCT same speed, otherwise comparing your "results" is hard if not impossible. Also the Model S is low slung saloon so it will of course be more efficient than an SUV, and your Model S being on 19" wheels even more efficient. So it is hard to compare without doing the exact same test with your car. Just out of curiosity what Model S do you have?
@@KrisRifa Drives a model S Raven AWD from late 2019. I do this streetch between Skedsmokorset and Brumunddal often at work and gets a consumtion above 200 wh/km only in heavy rain or heavy snowy cold weather. Or when driving 15-20 above speed limit.
In the Ioniq 5 its defence, u tested that in september and this car now in december, the updates on both platforms have done a great deal for the efficiency of both cars. I fair way to go about it would be to retest the I5.
There should be a yearly EV cannonball with a overnight stay somewhere towards the middle.
Thanks for this. Now we just have to wait 8 months before we get our car... :(
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110 km/h? In Poland we drive 140 on our highways. I bet it would be much worse.
Tell me about reliability 10 years later
Hi Kris, do you use any picture profile (HLG or S-Log) when you shoot on your Sony a6600, or you are in P mode with PP OFF?
I’m interested in when you do these tests do you use the car’s stated efficiency or do you cross check it be recharging and calculating actual kWh’s used versus kilometres? Assuming the Kia actually tells you how many kWhs are used while recharging. Just some cars tend to be pretty inaccurate on kWhs used per 100km.
Great video again. The compiled table with all tested models is available? We only see a fraction of it on the video but it would nice to have it complete. And by the way, one question. Do you known if the range is linear regarding the SOC? For example, under the same conditions of course, the distance that you can get between 100 and 90% SOC is similar to the distance when the battery goes from 30 to 20% SOC? I have a PHEV and my impression is that as the battery depletes, the range I can get with the same % also goes down. Just saw that Matej pointed out here the same issue.
21 degrees! Wow that's cold! 🥶
Kris, there seems to be a big demand of a tutorial how to get decent charge speed in winter, especially with those "800 V systems". Maybe you could do some best practices and show results with car scanner, if available.
here: ruclips.net/video/r6eao-CfaQU/видео.html
@@laloajuria4678 In e-GMP the heatpump seems to work against you (if fastcharging is the goal) and I saw two e-tron GT charging only in the 50s kW even after driving a bit and the owners don't know what they did wrong or if it is the fault of the charger.
ruclips.net/video/XTiDx6QcQXc/видео.htmlm35s
ruclips.net/user/shortszZjF-DsUxnM
my Soul in eco mode does 500-520kms lol
once just to try a bit slower pace like 70km/h i had 580kms done ;)
There was an interesting test in south Korea a few week ago using Ioniq5 and model Y, running side by side from Seoul to Busan on a same day. General consensus on battery efficiency is Tesla is way better than any other companies as of 2021, but it turned out that both showed very similar results when it comes to efficiency. I will still wait for at least four to five years before switching to EV, but I am happy customers have now more options other than ugly (just my opinion) Tesla. :)
In my opinion EV6 looks like a Bajoran from Babylon 5. Ugly... Ioniq5 has a nice style but ugly colors. Needs bright white or red instead of everything dull gray. Tesla Model 3 looks like a sqashed catfish and Model Y like a squashed catfish a kid as blown up via bicycle pump. Funny!
@@wolfgangpreier9160 The EV6 looks more Cardassian that Bajoran in my opinion.. also Start Trek DS9 not B5 =)
@@IanMcc1000 🤣😂🤣😂I wondered when anybody saw the error! I have not viewed any TiVi for more than a decade now. But the hair style was memorable. Just like the EV6. That one is just not for me.
Great results,you would get even more range with the same battery size in Rwd model 👌
The EV6 is pretty smart with it's motors though and as he was doingthis test with Eco-mode on he's essentially running an RWD version. The difference is as low as roughly 20 km in real driving
Why don't you use the parking light when you have parked??? Thats the most annoying thing in the world...
Here in Canada, Tesla is still only option for a one car family. When charging options become much more plentiful, and at least equal to the Tesla supercharger network, other EV brands/models like this nice looking Hyundai will start to make sense. I have experienced non-Tesla EVs and they very tough to live with because of lack of charging infrastructure
Honestly most EV cars fail in Canada… including Tesla. The distances and the cold here make them fairly impractical unless u can charge at ur destination and your house. The range loss from being parked and having to warm up, combined with long commutes on highways, along with large snow loads all kill mileage.
The model 3 is alright but it’s a tad low to the ground for heavy snowfall and it’s still like $15k more than it’s competitors.
@@JohnSmith-qj7hd well, I have a Model Y and it works quite good in winter. Very little loss of battery range while sitting (a week parked will drop battery by 5-7%)
I don’t have a home charger yet, have exclusively supercharged for over a year already (25,000kms)
Going off the beaten path to hinterland Canada would be a challenge and not convenient at all.
@@pabloyuste1294 how long is your commute?
I looked at buying one for commuting. 140km each way. Figured a car rated for 500km could do it no problem. But driving 120km/hr (drops it down to 348km range off the get go) plus the 50km ish range loss in the cold to warm up, plus the range loss in winter driving from snow, denser air, running the heat. Then the battery reserve so you don’t damage the batteries….
Then factor in it doesn’t qualify for rebates and it’s an $80,000 car… and it can’t do a 280km commute without damaging the batteries or stopping to charge. A $23,000 Kia Soul can do that commute and comes with a longer warranty..
@@JohnSmith-qj7hd I think your calcs are too pessimistic. In cold weather (say -15deg) with a snow covered road and a nice toasty cabin, you should get 325 without any problem if you leave from home at 95%. Don’t listen to the misinformation about damaging your battery- lots of data to show that this just isn’t the case. My battery has lost about 3% capacity since new - all supercharging for 25,000 kms. All Tesla’s end up 5-7% loss after 5 years, some a bit more others less. Then it stays like that.
At your workplace, could you charge at all while parked? Even adding 30-40 kms over a 6-8 hr trickle charge (110v) would give you more price of mind.
Yes it’s expensive - but there is a tax break if you use the car for business.
(Not sure why strikethtough happened above sorry)
@@pabloyuste1294 I wish I could plug in. But the option just isn’t there. You are correct that little top up would make a world of difference (even just warming it up). And give me the option to drive out and grab something for lunch ;) or to pick something up during the day if plans change.
Hopefully the new batteries come out sooner rather than later to bump up the range a bit.
Another great video Kris. I wonder, how do you get so smooth footage while you are driving? It’s all about the camera and lens with OSS or you use a gimbal? And, if so, which one? Keep up the good work.
great review and thank you !
I am shocked about the results, too. 300 km range with full batteries are ridiculous. With a consumption of 25 kWh/100km you'll need at least 125 kWh batteries to get a range of at least 500km. Shorter ranges are no option for me to switch to an EV. 60% of WLTP range. The car industry lies again as with gas consumption. The ordinary consumer should get at least 90% of WLTP. Otherwise this value is non-sense. It is too much money for what you get.
That's why PHEVs are there! I own one and it fits very well. Additionally you are not limited to maximum speeds of something like 160km/h. But hey, under normal circumstances (10-30ºC) with a 65 kWh battery and "gentle" driving you can easily achieve 500-550km on a single charge.
This test is nothing like the wltp and also isn’t necessarily real world conditions. For city driving alone it is possible to do better than the wltp value and worse when running up and down a highway like this as you have just witnessed.
@@jpmalopes what phev has a 65kWhr battery?
Great review
190mile range, no wonder many people won’t buy an EV yet. For COP26 in Glasgow, Sky News drove there in an EV from London that took 11hrs to drive 413miles. In an ICE car the drive normally takes 7hrs. Unless your doing local trips, the price of an EV versus a standard car is usually about £15,000 in the UK so not cost effective. I’ll wait until they become much less expensive. Won’t have to hang around whilst waiting for it to charge up either,
I am actually quite interested in the EV6 RWD version, with 19in tyres (GT-line equipment). On summer ones could it go about 320 km at 120 km/h. Do you think it would be possible?
Downhill and wind from the back : yea . Wind in front ? But look promising .See range test at 130km in low temp. ruclips.net/video/uuk1QCD9UbU/видео.html
@@bluebikerathar Yeah, but that's the AWD version. I am wondering about the RWD one...
Since when the WLTP % is a meaningful way to rate a car? And I'm still trying to understand what is shocking.
Well WLTP is the standardized measurement used here in Europe, so it kind of is the standard for measuring range 🙈
Watch the video again, maybe you will be able to catch what is shocking 😉
In 2:43 of this video you can see how useless those cameras that replace mirrors in some cars are!
kia/hyundais' blind spot monitoring during blinkers on utilizes surround view camaras which are located at the edge of the side mirrors and also exposed outward (same on their ICE cars)
its just a part of the safety support features rather than a full replacement of the mirrors
@@chee-tah- i know what that is and why it is there. But there are attempts to replace mirrors with cameras and it ends up like that! I never wrote that those cameras replace mirrors in kia EV6.
Hi Kris! I like your videos but please skip the klick bate captions in the thumbnail. You don’t need it with the quality and content you have. Keep up the good work!
Does EV6 have lower drag coefficient than Ioniq5? Nice video and comparison table. I just don't understand the "% of WLTP range". This says nothing about the car, you are basically evaluating the WLTP test (and how bad it is to assess real life consumption, as it is for ICE cars). Would rather see comparison with price link, for example range/investment in km/NOK or charging cost for 20k km per year.
Well, people just don't buy cars based on these figures. It may be a theoretically interesting exercise but nobody will rely on that for buying a car. People buy cars based on passion, net price (well, discounts...), eventually low interest. I guess nobody will make that type of complex calculation because other issues are more relevant (discounts on price, low interest (interest-free sometimes). For example, maintenance costs will destroy completely a rank based on cost/20km just in terms of electricity consumption. Check the difference between a Toyota maintenance service and a BMW service and you'll see my point! ;-) I also like to make the comparisons you propose, but hey, these are simply not realistic for a buying decision... Don't you think that manufacturers could make models with consumption lower than 15 kWh? But then at what cost? Nobody will buy those! Check the Dacia Spring and you'll see my point!
@@jpmalopes Do you believe that people buy cars based on "% of WLTP range"?
@@ruudfalun ;-)
For Americans, 23.6KWh per 100Km appears to be about 2.6 miles per KWh.
Can someone explain what is the interest to put these huge wheels on EV (or even on ICEV) as far as it's a disadvantage regarding consumption, comfort etc...??
They're very heavy cars, so you need more tyre surface for stability and grip.
At this point it is purely done for aesthetic 😊
He who has the bigges tyres, wins! 😅
Hyundai and ford USA have found the size of the tires means nothing with electric motors.
That's because it's based around torque, also large tires help with free rolling distance
The size ( or more importantly the weight ) does affect consumption in stop and go traffic , you alsways have to get a high weight into movement which results in higher consumption. On the highway however the bigger tyres dont make a difference as you already brought the weight into movement and with bigger wheels you may get better effiency at higher speed from the electric motor ( same goes for ICE )
Waiting on my demo drive of the Ioniq 5 Long Range RWD here in BC Canada, pre ordered cars have arrived at Port, press cars are making their rounds. Its very close. Dealership expects I will have mine within a few weeks, I estimate mid Jan. If the demo drive plays out in favour and I find everything to fit what I need I will proceed w purchase. If not I will wait on my pre pre order of EV6 which will show up sometime around May/June 2022 dealership told me. The efficiency and range numbers for the colder weather are nice to see and better than the Ioniq 5, I just prefer the interior design and exterior design of the Ioniq 5 a bit more than EV6 but until I test drive one I cant say anything really because current owners opinions are subjective, what works for one may not work for another but overall the owner impressions are positive. Lets hope they can support the software and grow it without too many issues, I don't want to buy a Tesla..... Next option was Polestar 2 or GV60
77ish kwh vs 72ish...
Good job, I liked it. from Texas
The Audi at the top looks a bit of an outlier as you ran it less, ie only 56%, whereas most you ran to +75%.
All cars are driven on the exact same route, what is in that column is reported distance by the car. The route is 233km for all cars.
@@KrisRifa sorry, missed that bit - first video of yours I’d seen. That’s a good test, as the vast majority of other RUclips reviewers aren’t that disciplined. I’ll subsidise 👍
Nice Tudor
Is this test real? Bjorn did get similar Hyund and Kia range. Not to be negative, but one of you two did a bad test.
How can this test be fake? 🙈😂 And the results are the results dude, how exactly was the test done poorly to get worse results? Driving with the brake pedal depressed? 🙈 It is funny that people get mad at me because the Ioniq 5 performed poorly, shows how powerful and dumb fanboyism is 😬
The EV6 has a 5kWh bigger battery than the Ioniq 5. That with it being more aerodynamic gives this car lower consumption and better range, it's as simple as that.
@@KrisRifa where did i say its fake? Where did i say im mad? Why are you so deffensive? But what I did say is that your test and Bjorn test produced very different results. Thay can not both be correct. Someone did a bad test. I will nit decide who does better tests, you or Bjorn. But you could lool his test and acknowledge that your test and his produced very different result of Io5 and Kev6 range.
@@RomanRoman-xi3dv Well I actually had the same with a lot of tests and cars. I drove a few EV's before and the only few things I can conlude are:
1. Even if you have 15 "same EV cars" they al perform a bit different, the battery sizes and how they react / work in real life are mindblowing and linear
2. I have a Polestar 2 dual motor at the moment, the last 10% of the battery are almost twice as big as the rest (so the scale is not linear) you just cant conclude total range en total efficiency if you are not using the total battery and fully charge it back to 100% (and do a readout on the kWh)
3. The colder it gets, the more you benefit from aerodynamics, due toe the air resistance is multiplied by 3 times the weight of a m3 of air. So a Tesla or in this case de EV6 are doing better in colder conditions compared tot warmer condintions, just because there low cW values.
So probably, the tests done by Bjorn were in warmer conditions, different kind of tyres, and Bjorn is also doing the total calculations on his actual read outs of the cars. So they are both right, Kris is more like the most of us relying on the figs the car is presenting you, Bjorn is going Einstein in his figures.
Thans for all the uploads, you're testing was convincing me to change from tesla to polestar and I'm nog regretting it for one bit.
@@RomanRoman-xi3dv Dude, you literally wrote "Is this test real?" That directly implies it is fake 🙈😂 Not real = fake.
"Where did i say im mad?" Where did I write you are mad? Not sure what you are on about here.
What did Bjørn get in these cars? You have to supply us with more information than "Bjorn did get similar Hyund and Kia range. Not to be negative, but one of you two did a bad test.". That does not help anybody. What was the average speed? Surface? Wheel sizes? Temperature? Wind direction? etc etc etc.
"But you could lool his test and acknowledge that your test and his produced very different result of Io5 and Kev6 range." Again, what test? Do you have a link? can you share the results? How exactly do you do a bad range test? I may seem defensive because you are making these accusations that one of us "did it wrong" when you share no information what so ever... 😂🙈
*and excuse my autocorrection to Dutch, I hope it's readible
It's important to know the actual range. % of WLTP? Pointless.
Still a good option, not perfect, but still on the list. One thing that amazes me is how inexpensive they are to lease compared to other EV’s with the same price.
Are you sure you're not just seeing special offers for the EV6? My local dealer here in Sweden currently has an introductory offer of ~460 euros per month, with reference to a "regular price" of ~700.
@@outsider_within No, I am looking at an full operational lease for 837 € a month (full option AWD model). Tesla model 3 LR and Skoda Enyak and Polestar 2 (AWD with premium pack and pilot pack) go for around 930 a month. (full operational lease for 4 years and 160k). Leasing company does get a permanent discount of arond 12% for the Kia. These prises are VAT excluded since it is a corporate lease.
The Kia EV 6 has 73 kWh netto. Not 77.
That's wrong, net capacity is 77,4kWh
Doesn't battery size make a difference - the Ioniq5 was 72 the Kia was 77. If it does make a difference why didn't you mention that? North American Ioniq5 will have the 77. You seem to just not like the Ioniq.
I am shocked at how low it is!
Did you try to run the EV6 close to 0%? Some tests pointed out, that the Koreans drop the SOC much faster when going
Very good point
Did they update the software??? This is much better results for the EV6 awd than every other test… Looks very promising 😁 Kris, thanks for an excellent test!
That's nice and all that, but have you heard the neck-breaking news? Lexus is (finally) going 100% Electric! The Empire strikes back ;-)
Empire? For me it is some B brand with a crappy EV. 😁
Kris, you made a little mistake in your chart at the end : it states the day as 13/12/2020 ... should be 2021 ;)
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@@KrisRifa also, the Polestar 2 LR DM should be 22 model, right?
@@gudarian372 PS2 LR DM is 2021 model without heat pump :)
Test drive this same Kia 5 years from now.
WLTP is 9% inflated as a system on every car.
Waitng for the GT ;-)
Comparing results to the wltp is a waste of time in my opinion. If you want to do that you should pick a route that represents the wltp cycle and then do your comparison. Wltp is to enable comparison across vehicles and for the way perhaps 80% of the European population drive their cars. 10% might spend all their time in traffic and do better and the other 10% will drive up and down freeways and do worse.
I notice you are only doing 110Kph most people dont drive this slow on the motorway on a really long journey. I would like to see a test at say 130KPH which is more realisic
Average measured speed is around 111-112kph, which is close to 120kph on the speedometer 😊 speed limit in Norway is 110kph, so I can’t do this test any faster than that
Wait are you a clone of that other Norwegian guy ?
303 km is still ridiculous
Shocking is not the right word…its sounds to negativ. Wonderfull is the right word.
Actually it beats almost all cars…. I‘m glad to pick up our car tomorow ….yeah on 19“.
Idk if you have noticed but you are repeating yourself when you speak so much and even more than before now hehe. If you can tone it down 50% maybe? Other than that i love the content and keep it up!❤️
Wait a minute: this junk has a claimed range of over 500km but at 3 degrees it dropped to 300km?
Love my diesel. Screw e-junks.
I'm not sure it's "very, very impressive" given the range is 12% less than a Model Y while having a battery capacity 10% higher. That shows in the consumption figure which is 20% higher. Yes I know the temperature was roughly 5 deg warmer when the Y was tested but no way that accounts for that deficit.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the EV6 and would buy one over the Ioniq 5 due to the better range even though I *love* the 80s styling and pixel lights of the 5. But I'd hold off on describing its performance as "very, very impressive" until they match Teslas efficiency numbers vs just bests its style over efficiency cousin no?
Ioniq 5 has smaller battery 72.6 so you can’t really compare the range 🤦🤦🤦👎👎👎
Of course these videos are basically entertainment. And they fit the purpose!! However, they lack any scientific basis. Even comparative videos with different models are super naif. On the other hand, WLTP tests are scientifically sound. They are based on standard procedures (we may argue if they are realistic but...) and they are check by regulatory authorities. That's why these are the ONLY meaningful figures for cars consumption/range... What I believe should be mandatory was a different type of testing covering different driving conditions. This will allow the calculation of a standard deviation for the consumption and therefore the ability to inform the consumers not only of an average consumption, but also minimum and maximum consumption (or range) based on a range statistical distribution estimated, again, under a very well defined protocol, similar to the WLTP. Car manufacturers have all these figures of course, but they just don't advertise them because it is simply not mandatory.