Oh myyy gawd... I have muscular dystrophy and have been confined to a wheelchair for a few years now. I have 2 other fairly serious health issues. I watch comedy podcasts to get my mood up and stave off depression. Then along comes Jake.... 😅 Thank you for posting ❤
1:09:16 I am not a quantum physicists, but a physics student and wanted to clarify that the double slit experiment doesn't have a scientist observing the electron. It's a common misconception. 'The observer' can be a single particle set up in front of one of the slits so that it interacts with the electron if it were to go through that slit, and that way by checking the state of that particle after the experiment you can tell which slit the electron went through. Now the reason the electron stops interfering when you add 'an observer' isn't because of the act of observing, its because the wave going through one slit and triggering it's detector is a different event from the wave going through the other slit and triggering it's detector. Without 'the observers' both waves represent the probability of the electron hitting the backboard so they can combine, but with 'the observer' they can't combine because they don't represent the same events, so no interference
Jake is 100% correct. On the macro we may not have control or "free will", but on the micro we have control over our own choices and can change any time we want. I think people would rather believe there is no free will or choice because it absolves them of changing or trying. Having no free will sounds very limiting. Choosing to change is hard and applying the change is even harder because of human nature/being creatures of habit, but it's 100% doable. You could literally change your life tomorrow if you wanted (and if you're mostly out of survival mode), but it's doing it everyday and having the changed mindset that exerts your free will and creates new habits/the new changes you want in your life.
Jordan ur best years are ahead of u … don’t stress who knows about free will either way your future is fruitful and amazing your going to be the most influential female comic to date and it might only be in the lane that’s tasteful to real comedy fans but it will be dope and pay off … ima big fan and I just see that your one of one and eveything is dope for you and I can’t wait to follow your journey
What's up Jake. I've never heard anyone else publicly acknowledge the plane-landing sinus pain. Truly a crazy experience, I thought I was about to have a stroke. Some of the worst pain I've felt. It used to happen at every landing --- has thankfully eased up for the past few years.
My skin feels like the oils in the skin are boiling. Nobody fucken listens. Started in 2015. My GP said "meh, suncream". I'll look into Porphyria!! Thank you Jake
I saw these two perform the other night on Jordan’s current tour and could not recommend the tour enough, they had some kid go up first and he was even hilarious
Jordan ur amazing duck that dude ur not shity i mean ur glowing up cause there are many of us that relate to your vibe … ur skanks family and ur own self vibe can’t wait to catch u live
Jake Velazquez: I have a severe case of plaque psoriasis and I relate 100% to the skin sensations you describe. I describe the sensation of aggravated plaques to people as being similar to light cigarette burns. Like accidental knuckle or lip contact that lasts just a little too long and you have to deal with feeling it for a day or so. Smokers will know. But it's just like that all the time. There are people out here that relate, my friend. Jordan Jensen: PLEASE no more free will stuff.
not me, i feel pretty good all the time hth also what kind of shitty smoker is burning themselves on the regular with cigarettes? maybe heroin addicts or something
As someone who has experienced profound grief (due to the loss of my brothers to fentanyl), you get well acquainted with the fact that there are no alternative universes or infinite timelines. There's only one timeline and it's this one, and this is what happened. It could not have been any other way.
well if it makes u feel better jordan, I had no choice but to click on this video and watch it cuz i was always gunna trip and fall into watching this pod. Also Jake and u crushed this weekend in sf.
Hey dudes, awesome episode again! If you (or anyone) feels like going down this rabbit hole from a physics perspective, look up "Laplace Demon" for the "Divine Mind" concept and the "Everett Interpretation" for multiple realities/probabilities/particle and wave stuff. ie. It may be that free will/observation has more to do with your perception of part of the wave function than its collapse into any specific configuration of reality. (who fuckin knows) Sorry if someone here already posted.
Jordan or Jake. If you somehow read this, I have an analogy on free will illusion that I think helps to make it easier to understand for most people. I think life is like floating down the river with a strong current and that you can affect the direction you move slightly, by maybe going from one bank to another, or slowing your speed slightly or speeding up slightly, but in the end the flow of fate takes you to the same general place. So the 95% no free will fits here. But you can’t change the outcome entirely
Can I get a hell yeah for Jordan !!!! Great share , I am a ginger roofer and sun block is another don’t trust doctors. 30 plus years of sunburns. I feel you pain braaaaa. Jordan, you’re so hot and classy and crazy and kooky. Thanks for the shares. You’re awesome GETCHAPULL
I find it hard to get over when people in my life that are aware of my epilepsy say things like.....oh it would be easier if you drive 🙄 so feeling you "you should" get over it is tricky!
On the free will thing, I think a common mistake we as people do is look at things in a binary way. So rather than seeing it as having or not having free will, I believe it would be more accurate to see it as a feature that us humans can benefit from. So rather than being at the total whim of the unconscious forces that guide our behaviour, we also have the option of being aware of our behaviour and adjust course. I like to see it as having two people in one, but the unconscious having 90% of control and 10% can chime in now and again if conditions are right (not in a triggered state). Obviously there's more to this, but definitely not as black and white as Jordan sees it.
Peterson didnt go to rehab because benzos are too awesome. He went to rehab because benzos like alcohol can just kill you if try to quit cold turkey lol.
So is Jordan saying you don’t have free will because you have instincts that are built in to just make you react to things? Also, I don’t think it’s fair to say with 100% certainty that this is the only reality. It appears to be the only one but how can anyone know for sure??
Great ep. That condition sounds really shitty to deal with. The story of being unable to sleep for days, and then making a million bathroom trips just to run his arms under a tap. Good grief. If I were this fella (I'm sure must be a good stand-up), but I'd stay away from those roast battles. Just kidding on the last part.
Dan Dennett was one hell of a fella. RIP. It's funny though, to be here talking about how the mind works, and throw it all out the window when you're talking about discoveries while being on acid and not realize the acid is just fucking the circuitry of your mind up. It's not revealing anything. It's revealing that you're on a wild acid trip, man.
We turn to philosophy and metaphysics because it is a way to understand reality without having to do math. We want to understand reality to make sense of our mental illness.
Jordan only wants that no free will thing to be true because it lets her come to terms with her OCD. On the podcast with her mum she made the point of the random decisions one can make within our minds that that is an idea of control over our will, she literally said that and that is a sign of free will. The belief that there is no free will under the idea of determinism because it's the only reality that happened is a frame to put free will under. You can't prove either or. Is like the faith in god. It's a bit moot saying what's the right thing especially when like the guys said it's the meaning you make of our lives, putting the will to turn it into something whether you say that that it's not free will is a bit shit and then saying that because it's what happened it's a sign of no free will is again a frame to put what happened into
jordan im waiting for you (juste be here) ----to make a point.....so the puny man understand the finite beeing of their genetically insignificant existence...not if i could make another standart commment ..but i wont..... because of the big bang,,,and all the tempreture spreading ...im from germany BTW....see you in kolonia(NRW)
How did y'all disagree about something you agree on for almost half an hour. So hard to listen to without herniating an aneurism. This is why podcasts are ridiculous.
I don’t understand how Jordan can be whiskers away from insane stardom and wealth but also from being homeless on the street and not think she has free will. Idk as long as giving up and being nothing exists we all have *at least* a degree of free will. Seems like a cop out. Rapists are bad Jord. They could have absolutely chosen not to idk why you’re using your little bit of time here to be an apologist for the worst life comes to- and you’re choosing it freely.
guess it was too hard to listen to jordan "being stupid" like your other comment and you had to leave this gem huh? these are comedians you get that right? you shouldn't expect anything like a real conversation about free will, wtf
@@Konarcoffee you had no say in making this comment and I am typing a prerecorded response right now. No, you’re right though, me commenting multiple times to make fun cause I’m bored while double speeding and still having to skip ahead multiple times just shows how enthralled I am.
@@crackthefoundation_ thank you for allowing the universe to channel that comment through you to me. I return favor. We are innocent little pebbles being tossed this way and that never doing anything wrong or bad
A band I was in had a song called Porphyriac about becoming a vampire but I guess we misread the myth because we thought it was about drinking blood, not avoiding the sun. Whoops
3 years ago I got melasma. It doesn't hurt me but it leaves dark spots all over my face that look fucked up. I've been using a UV umbrella bc nothing else works. I love the sun and swimming.... For that reason it blows pretty bad but it's nothing compared to this. This really blows lol. Thanks for talking about it 🩷
One day the guest will be the infamous step-bro.
It's only what we're all waiting for
Pls no that sounds so uncomfortable I'd wanna die
Stop that step bro 😂
and in focus.
Will be even better than the TigerBelly episode with Khalyla's old dog
It looks like Wonder woman hanging out with Robin.
Hahahahhahhaha
This comment is ace gold haha
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JORAN, i am 39 and have down syndrome. you are my favorite. i hate ian
😂
🤣🤣🤣
Ian, is this you?
Ian is a good guy, that's not nice :(
Yooooooooo 💀💀💀
Oh myyy gawd...
I have muscular dystrophy and have been confined to a wheelchair for a few years now. I have 2 other fairly serious health issues.
I watch comedy podcasts to get my mood up and stave off depression.
Then along comes Jake.... 😅
Thank you for posting ❤
Very thought provoking pod. Loved every second, and it helped clean my kitchen!
Jordan is lucky to have Jake as an opener! Love them both a ton!
I ABSOLUTELY love Jordan, so I keep trying SO hard to get into these podcasts... 😢
1:09:16 I am not a quantum physicists, but a physics student and wanted to clarify that the double slit experiment doesn't have a scientist observing the electron. It's a common misconception.
'The observer' can be a single particle set up in front of one of the slits so that it interacts with the electron if it were to go through that slit, and that way by checking the state of that particle after the experiment you can tell which slit the electron went through.
Now the reason the electron stops interfering when you add 'an observer' isn't because of the act of observing, its because the wave going through one slit and triggering it's detector is a different event from the wave going through the other slit and triggering it's detector. Without 'the observers' both waves represent the probability of the electron hitting the backboard so they can combine, but with 'the observer' they can't combine because they don't represent the same events, so no interference
Also, I love your podcasts. Keep the good work up ❤
Love from MN ❤🎉 my new favorite pod. So real!!!
amazing episode, y'all got deep in this one
The juxtaposition of these two is killin me 😅😍 Jordan is like an amazonian goddess and Jake's a cute lil pygmy lmao
Hearing this the exact moment I need to hear it! ❤
Jake is 100% correct. On the macro we may not have control or "free will", but on the micro we have control over our own choices and can change any time we want. I think people would rather believe there is no free will or choice because it absolves them of changing or trying. Having no free will sounds very limiting. Choosing to change is hard and applying the change is even harder because of human nature/being creatures of habit, but it's 100% doable. You could literally change your life tomorrow if you wanted (and if you're mostly out of survival mode), but it's doing it everyday and having the changed mindset that exerts your free will and creates new habits/the new changes you want in your life.
Jordan. Your brain is SO much fun. It’s I. Just. Love it. Thank you
great ep. love the deep conversations.
Jordan ur best years are ahead of u … don’t stress who knows about free will either way your future is fruitful and amazing your going to be the most influential female comic to date and it might only be in the lane that’s tasteful to real comedy fans but it will be dope and pay off … ima big fan and I just see that your one of one and eveything is dope for you and I can’t wait to follow your journey
What's up Jake. I've never heard anyone else publicly acknowledge the plane-landing sinus pain. Truly a crazy experience, I thought I was about to have a stroke. Some of the worst pain I've felt. It used to happen at every landing --- has thankfully eased up for the past few years.
Great one!
My skin feels like the oils in the skin are boiling. Nobody fucken listens. Started in 2015. My GP said "meh, suncream". I'll look into Porphyria!! Thank you Jake
I've really been enjoying this podcast. No joke.
just found you and as a comedy nerd I'm in love!! hope to get to see you live sometime!
Great discussion!
I saw these two perform the other night on Jordan’s current tour and could not recommend the tour enough, they had some kid go up first and he was even hilarious
Jordan ur amazing duck that dude ur not shity i mean ur glowing up cause there are many of us that relate to your vibe … ur skanks family and ur own self vibe can’t wait to catch u live
Another free will discussion, Great!
Great episode ❤
Great podcast! Been heavy into philosophy/ psychology since I was 15, but never really asked why.
This rules ❤
Soooo good ❤🤯❤
I loved this episode
Jake Velazquez: I have a severe case of plaque psoriasis and I relate 100% to the skin sensations you describe. I describe the sensation of aggravated plaques to people as being similar to light cigarette burns. Like accidental knuckle or lip contact that lasts just a little too long and you have to deal with feeling it for a day or so. Smokers will know. But it's just like that all the time. There are people out here that relate, my friend.
Jordan Jensen: PLEASE no more free will stuff.
not me, i feel pretty good all the time hth
also what kind of shitty smoker is burning themselves on the regular with cigarettes? maybe heroin addicts or something
As someone who has experienced profound grief (due to the loss of my brothers to fentanyl), you get well acquainted with the fact that there are no alternative universes or infinite timelines. There's only one timeline and it's this one, and this is what happened. It could not have been any other way.
well if it makes u feel better jordan, I had no choice but to click on this video and watch it cuz i was always gunna trip and fall into watching this pod. Also Jake and u crushed this weekend in sf.
Hey dudes, awesome episode again!
If you (or anyone) feels like going down this rabbit hole from a physics perspective, look up "Laplace Demon" for the "Divine Mind" concept and the "Everett Interpretation" for multiple realities/probabilities/particle and wave stuff. ie. It may be that free will/observation has more to do with your perception of part of the wave function than its collapse into any specific configuration of reality. (who fuckin knows)
Sorry if someone here already posted.
LOVE HER!
I love when JJ vapes, she exhales like Popeye. ❤😂
Yes, it's certainly not the tattoos and cartoonish bicep-to-forearm ratio... it's the way she exhales
@@mikeparrone6022 excellent articulate breakdown earnestly
Jordan is a one and only
Omg Jordan this guy with his storys of a strange condition is obviously a vampire beguiling you!!!!!
28:10 I’ve had that pain about 15 times in my life. It’s legitimately a nightmare, I sometimes get residual pain for days after. It’s miserable.
Camera 2 has soft focus lol
Almost JJ!
Keep at it!
I love this episode
Jordan or Jake. If you somehow read this, I have an analogy on free will illusion that I think helps to make it easier to understand for most people. I think life is like floating down the river with a strong current and that you can affect the direction you move slightly, by maybe going from one bank to another, or slowing your speed slightly or speeding up slightly, but in the end the flow of fate takes you to the same general place. So the 95% no free will fits here. But you can’t change the outcome entirely
Ah kinda, the river doesn't have a pre set destination, you just cant change where you end Up.
the free will, talking in circles, rants are the worst part of any jordan pods
She seems closer to finding her answer. Give her a little more time.
I'm way too high to be listening to this lmao 😂
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Yeah yeah yeah
This has replaced my Taste Buds fix
Jake has the sweetest reads
jordan looks a lil amazonian in this! lmao!
How the FUCK is Ian not contaminated
Air fryer is life changing
I love closing my eyes and while listening to Jordan and imagining she's Dorey from Finding Nemo
I just think they sound similar
Can I get a hell yeah for Jordan !!!! Great share , I am a ginger roofer and sun block is another don’t trust doctors. 30 plus years of sunburns. I feel you pain braaaaa. Jordan, you’re so hot and classy and crazy and kooky. Thanks for the shares. You’re awesome GETCHAPULL
🍀🤘🏻
This made my Monday soo much betterrr 🫶
I find it hard to get over when people in my life that are aware of my epilepsy say things like.....oh it would be easier if you drive 🙄 so feeling you "you should" get over it is tricky!
On the free will thing, I think a common mistake we as people do is look at things in a binary way. So rather than seeing it as having or not having free will, I believe it would be more accurate to see it as a feature that us humans can benefit from.
So rather than being at the total whim of the unconscious forces that guide our behaviour, we also have the option of being aware of our behaviour and adjust course.
I like to see it as having two people in one, but the unconscious having 90% of control and 10% can chime in now and again if conditions are right (not in a triggered state). Obviously there's more to this, but definitely not as black and white as Jordan sees it.
Jake and Jordan were amazing in Bean Town
If the fly decides to rest and it has no free will, when was that choice made
Before it was born
Is this the old opener that you slept with?! If so, good for you!! He gets you.
Tibetan monk beginning NICE
Peterson didnt go to rehab because benzos are too awesome. He went to rehab because benzos like alcohol can just kill you if try to quit cold turkey lol.
Zynn on a plane is def not fun. It gave me a panic attack
NGL Jordan reeeally looking like one of those girls who hangs out with guys cause there's "less drama" lmfao
Lol but there is less drama.
@@Tlicious04 she's in relationships and sex addicts anonymous lol
Eggs and fried CELERY! 🤔🫵🏻
So is Jordan saying you don’t have free will because you have instincts that are built in to just make you react to things? Also, I don’t think it’s fair to say with 100% certainty that this is the only reality. It appears to be the only one but how can anyone know for sure??
Benzos work on GABA receptors and they are almost too awesome, lol.
Jordan is weirdly attractive. Idk if she’s more weird or more attractive but I don’t think one works without the other
Idk why im so head over heels in love wit Jordan😍😳😍😳🫠😳😍
Great ep. That condition sounds really shitty to deal with. The story of being unable to sleep for days, and then making a million bathroom trips just to run his arms under a tap. Good grief. If I were this fella (I'm sure must be a good stand-up), but I'd stay away from those roast battles. Just kidding on the last part.
Yes squeak
Dan Dennett was one hell of a fella. RIP. It's funny though, to be here talking about how the mind works, and throw it all out the window when you're talking about discoveries while being on acid and not realize the acid is just fucking the circuitry of your mind up. It's not revealing anything. It's revealing that you're on a wild acid trip, man.
Afraid of a prefrontal cortex misfire 44:05
Get Jordan to talk to Sam Harris!
jebus porphyria sounds horrid :(
Get Mullen on here plz
Where you the one that thought bobby had a crush on
28:36 You flew when you knew you were sick?
Sinus Infections aren't always contagions.(Allergy based for example)
no you're not stuck with BPD forever, the brain can be rewired.
We turn to philosophy and metaphysics because it is a way to understand reality without having to do math. We want to understand reality to make sense of our mental illness.
In love with JJ
Sorry
I’m in love
RiP my sound mind and heart5000
Porphyria reminds me of the band Polyphia..... also porphyrios was a greco roman whale....
Jordan only wants that no free will thing to be true because it lets her come to terms with her OCD. On the podcast with her mum she made the point of the random decisions one can make within our minds that that is an idea of control over our will, she literally said that and that is a sign of free will. The belief that there is no free will under the idea of determinism because it's the only reality that happened is a frame to put free will under. You can't prove either or. Is like the faith in god. It's a bit moot saying what's the right thing especially when like the guys said it's the meaning you make of our lives, putting the will to turn it into something whether you say that that it's not free will is a bit shit and then saying that because it's what happened it's a sign of no free will is again a frame to put what happened into
any way you can get mullen?
Interesting
EXCELLENT pit shot at 25:41
jordan im waiting for you (juste be here) ----to make a point.....so the puny man understand the finite beeing of their genetically insignificant existence...not if i could make another standart commment ..but i wont.....
because of the big bang,,,and all the tempreture spreading ...im from germany BTW....see you in kolonia(NRW)
I do not understand any free will conversations and that’s fucked
terrance howard would love this ep
1:19:14 free will or not Jordan? Lol
How did y'all disagree about something you agree on for almost half an hour. So hard to listen to without herniating an aneurism. This is why podcasts are ridiculous.
U canceled your show in my city ughhhh
I don’t understand how Jordan can be whiskers away from insane stardom and wealth but also from being homeless on the street and not think she has free will. Idk as long as giving up and being nothing exists we all have *at least* a degree of free will. Seems like a cop out. Rapists are bad Jord. They could have absolutely chosen not to idk why you’re using your little bit of time here to be an apologist for the worst life comes to- and you’re choosing it freely.
guess it was too hard to listen to jordan "being stupid" like your other comment and you had to leave this gem huh? these are comedians you get that right? you shouldn't expect anything like a real conversation about free will, wtf
@@Konarcoffee you had no say in making this comment and I am typing a prerecorded response right now. No, you’re right though, me commenting multiple times to make fun cause I’m bored while double speeding and still having to skip ahead multiple times just shows how enthralled I am.
Free will does not exist and neither does consciousness or time the way we perceive it
@@crackthefoundation_ you are dumb
@@crackthefoundation_ thank you for allowing the universe to channel that comment through you to me. I return favor. We are innocent little pebbles being tossed this way and that never doing anything wrong or bad
Jordan you need to study physics more
A band I was in had a song called Porphyriac about becoming a vampire but I guess we misread the myth because we thought it was about drinking blood, not avoiding the sun. Whoops
What shrill shrieking shrewd
Why do I feel like protein ain't the only powder around
Jordan is so bad bruh fr
Jordan needs to lose this guy.
Sorry.
3 years ago I got melasma. It doesn't hurt me but it leaves dark spots all over my face that look fucked up. I've been using a UV umbrella bc nothing else works. I love the sun and swimming.... For that reason it blows pretty bad but it's nothing compared to this. This really blows lol. Thanks for talking about it 🩷