yep, I can't believe so many people are recommending dogshit frame gen settings recently just because number go up. You have to look at the actual experience.
@@HearMeLearn I think people only concentrate on those numbers and not looking at the scene. I can't explain how they can stand all those artifacts and ghosting...
frame gen with a 45 fps lock is crazy. amd recommend a 60fps base frame rate before using frame gen. the artifacts and input lag with fsr3 fg are crazy at a bad frame of 20-30 fps.
@@Rohgamu you do you. I can’t stand it ever. frame gen on any game feels terrible. It’s a lazy dev “fix” to unoptimized games. Cap and this game at 30 and call it a day
Input lag and latency DOES matter in single player games. Having really bad lag and latency when playing a shooter, racing game or action game or really any game that requires any sort of reaction times is unbearable and unplayable, and in the case of sub 60 fps frame gen lag it is OBJECTIVELY unplayable. Playing a game like Spider-Man where you have to do quick dodges, parries, and combos and fast swinging and having a full fucking second of input latency is UNPLAYABLE.
Steamdeck for me is like original iPhone in tech world Before steamdeck there were many handheld pc from ayaneo and some other chinese companies but after steamdeck all big tech msi, asus, zotac joined handheld
Capping to 45fps means you're playing this at like 22-23fps dude please stop putting frame gen into recommendations like this this isn't how the technology is meant to be used
Personally I disagree. If someone only has a Steam Deck and no other console/PC to play this on I don’t see “fake frames” being a problem. Id say that it makes it playable. The only concern I’d see is latency. If someone is ok with that let them play how they please. All they have is a Steam Deck so relax. I think people are just angry you didn’t need to buy a PS5 or $2,000 PC if you are ok with mediocre performance from a Steam Deck.
games like this on PC with settings like low often have higher fidelity than PS5 on performance, specially when on a smaller screen on a handheld like the steamdeck will the image quality hold up better than many people expect, while setting like medium / high to have equal and better fidelity than PS5 on Quality, let alone steps above that like very high / ultra.
@@sergeleon1163 Nope. You are coping hard. Try playing ps5 games on a good monitor that can handle ps5 graphics and you will see that it’s not even a comparison.
Frame gen with a base of 26 fps is going to look and feel like shit. You really need a base frame rate of at least 60 in the majority of games for it to even be worth enabling it.
Frame gen under 60fps should be made illegal. What is playable about flickery, pixel slideshow artificially boosted to 45 ? Not "very playable" at all. That input lag is so huge , u can clearly see him first flick the analog stick and like a half a second later translate that movement in the game
Hopefully you can do a video like this for the Aya Neo 3 if u get it. Would like to know best settings for maximum performance since it has an AI 9 HX 370
I just installed it, used your configuration works very well, now I’m stuck in a mission where in the start you have to send Robbie a picture of two guys with frees bee, the game works but after sending the photo you have to open the map, and this is not showing. Character freezes and everything else works. How to fix it idk)
It looks like the game works better than Jedi survivor on deck and I have finished it 3 times already and it’s definitely playable. I wonder if I should buy it now or wait for discount
I'm getting sick of seeing everyone and there mother throw frame gen at poor performance. All you're doing is swapping one problem for another. Sure it looks good now, but it's input lag is in the mid 20's since you locked it to 45fps. Like I get it, wanting to play the newest stuff on the Deck, I have a Deck too, but game requirements are getting higher, and when you try and make Frame gen the solution you're misleading people as to the actual capabilities of the device, but my biggest pet peeve, is that he starts the video with frame gen already enabled. Show how it runs without it, THEN show the frame gen, at least then the viewer knows what they are getting into rather than them buy it and find it plays like crap.
Thank you very much for sharing! The result is incredible with 45 frames per second. The only small question I have is that when I use these settings, the small yellow objective indicator or the red triangles indicating an ongoing crime behave strangely and flicker slightly when I navigate the world. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks for sharing ❤
@lyndongaming we are looking at a 2nd gen strix halo kinda chip... Some 4080 or 4090 mobile level power chip, unified memory 32gb or 40gb , silicon carbon battery 80wh or 90wh, full size ssd PCI gen 5, 8inches oled 1080p screen... Next year ending or 2027... Around when next gen would be launching
@@pryorfn3263 Yes, AMD's Zen 2 architecture supports Advanced Vector Extensions 2 (AVX2). AVX2 is an instruction set that expands the capabilities of vector integer SSE and AVX instructions. Explanation AVX2 support in Zen 2 improves performance by increasing the execution unit width from 128-bit to 256-bit. Zen 2 also supports single-op support for AVX-256 instructions. Zen 2's architecture is optimized to reduce contention in integer execution.
Framegen is simply amazing! Diablo 4 maxed out, hdr 90fps ! Path of Excile 2, 60fps. These upscalers are a must have on handhelds, and a dream come true. Lifespan expanded 👌
From somebody thay hasn't played a Spiderman game since the original PlayStation, which one do people recommend? Is Spiderman 2 better than Spiderman 1? And can I play Spiderman 2 without context from any other previous stories? I'm not really a huge Spiderman fan, just wanted to try one out for a spin.
@@skycloud4802 There's an optional recap custscene that covers the events of Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, which predates the events of this game. The web-swinging is faster in 2, including options to make it more manual like the Playstation 2 games. Otherwise, a lot of the combat and stealth elements have been refined. It might be worth your while to try it.
Downloading the game on my STEAM OLED as we speak. Play at home on my Desktop, and playing the game at work when we have down time :) I am also going to download it on my ROG Ally X just to see how well it runs there.
Yeah, no thank you. Playing anything with frame generation when the base FPS is below a stable 45 FPS is a complete waste of time. It will feel terrible at all times, which is clearly evident in your video-the input latency is far too high. I highly doubt you’ll continue playing this way once you turn the camera off.
How are you using 7.6 gb of vram and 13.1 gb of ram when the steamdeck only has 16gb of ram and its split between ram and vram you have 21gb at least when you add thoes numbers up
Yo ETA Prime, what's good my dude? 🤙 I saw your vid on Spidey 2 for the Steam Deck, and I gotta ask - how you gonna do my man Spidey dirty like that, running him at 45 FPS? 😒 Ain't he supposed to be swinging through the city at lightning speed? You tryna make him look like a grandpa or what? 🤔 I know you said it's 'playable', but c'mon, this is the web-slinger we're talking about! Gotta keep that action crisp, ya feel me? 💯
How is the controller latency when docked? I was playing it on my laptop hooked up to my tv and the controller latency is horrible unless i turn off Vsync and even then i get horrible screen tears with Vsync off.
People that aren’t sucking off the steam deck, how does it feel? That 45 on the fps counter doesn’t mean anything if the input delay is absolutely brutal.
Its not unoptimized, the steam deck is too weak. The steam deck struggles even with a lot of last gen titles. You can't blame a next gen game for running bad on steam deck as it uses hardware that was practically considered low end by the PC community midway through that generation. People need to keep their expectations for what the steam deck can run in check and stop expecting it to run games that were built for literally a whole generation newer of hardware well and stop acting like the steam is this ultra powerful high end gaming device. It was impressive for a HANDHELD when it came out, but even when it came out it was essentially outdated low end PC hardware. Almost every new major game running on a next gen engine runs like crap on steam deck. And that's not the games fault.
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The Steamdeck running ps5 Games feels illegal
This technology is 20 years too late. Forward forward, the laziness and technologies restriction appears to be a thing of yesterday year.... 🍔 🥤 🥤 🥤 🥪
Steam deck, running PS5 games, with an x box controller, installed on a Nintendo SD card
@@merciless972 Diabolical and I love it! 😅
The steamdeck is what the playstation portal should have been.
20 years? You're crazy@@KojennyRizo
45 Frames, WITH Framegen on is wild bro. That's a heavy duty amount of input lag
like hundreds of milliseconds, but apparently he don't care, he just make 5 minute video, he dont play games on steam deck.
@@b1thearchitect401 it’s a singleplayer game. It is a non issue
45 fps with Frame Gen on means base FPS is 20-25 and input lag is brutal.
yep, I can't believe so many people are recommending dogshit frame gen settings recently just because number go up. You have to look at the actual experience.
Uh, it's 45 fps locked
@@HearMeLearn I think people only concentrate on those numbers and not looking at the scene. I can't explain how they can stand all those artifacts and ghosting...
Yeah your input lag will feel like sub 20 FPS which is absolutely insane, this video is stupid
You get use to input lag on certain games
frame gen with a 45 fps lock is crazy. amd recommend a 60fps base frame rate before using frame gen. the artifacts and input lag with fsr3 fg are crazy at a bad frame of 20-30 fps.
Input lag will be negligible on a single player game
Latency is negligible on a single player game
@@Rohgamu you do you. I can’t stand it ever. frame gen on any game feels terrible. It’s a lazy dev “fix” to unoptimized games. Cap and this game at 30 and call it a day
Input lag and latency DOES matter in single player games. Having really bad lag and latency when playing a shooter, racing game or action game or really any game that requires any sort of reaction times is unbearable and unplayable, and in the case of sub 60 fps frame gen lag it is OBJECTIVELY unplayable. Playing a game like Spider-Man where you have to do quick dodges, parries, and combos and fast swinging and having a full fucking second of input latency is UNPLAYABLE.
@@Rohgamu How is latency negligible in a game where you have to time dodges lol
The steam deck might actually be the best console ever made
@@SuperOzzy2324 it is! For me it is
Steamdeck for me is like original iPhone in tech world
Before steamdeck there were many handheld pc from ayaneo and some other chinese companies but after steamdeck all big tech msi, asus, zotac joined handheld
My favorite was the PSP tbh
Second to the okama gamesphere
It really is! Especially the Steam Deck OLED
"45fps with frame gen on"
people really got to stop trying to use frame gen to get to the 60fps mark let alone 45
Capping to 45fps means you're playing this at like 22-23fps dude please stop putting frame gen into recommendations like this this isn't how the technology is meant to be used
It's the only way it'll run
@ScavengerFX itll run at 30 with normal fsr dynamic scaling and itll look and feel better to play than this.
@Snoozie that's a better recommendation, thank you.
Agreed, framegen is not the solution for a game like this
Personally I disagree. If someone only has a Steam Deck and no other console/PC to play this on I don’t see “fake frames” being a problem. Id say that it makes it playable. The only concern I’d see is latency. If someone is ok with that let them play how they please. All they have is a Steam Deck so relax.
I think people are just angry you didn’t need to buy a PS5 or $2,000 PC if you are ok with mediocre performance from a Steam Deck.
I continue to be amazed by how well a lot of PS5-era games look and run on these devices even on "low" settings.
games like this on PC with settings like low often have higher fidelity than PS5 on performance, specially when on a smaller screen on a handheld like the steamdeck will the image quality hold up better than many people expect, while setting like medium / high to have equal and better fidelity than PS5 on Quality, let alone steps above that like very high / ultra.
@@sergeleon1163 Nope. You are coping hard. Try playing ps5 games on a good monitor that can handle ps5 graphics and you will see that it’s not even a comparison.
@@DungeonatorGaming why are you so mad? It's just a fact that pc games run better than console
@@lucadasillywolf he’s saying handheld on low image quality will hold better than a ps5 on fidelity lol. What are y’all smoking?
With FG too for that matter
Remember when 24/25fps was the average, 30fps was ideal and 60fps was reserved for top-tier systems?
I'll wait a few more months until the game is properly optimized and available in a sale.
And Mary Jane face mod came up
Frame gen with a base of 26 fps is going to look and feel like shit. You really need a base frame rate of at least 60 in the majority of games for it to even be worth enabling it.
I love this game. Swinging around New York is so relaxing.
Frame gen under 60fps should be made illegal. What is playable about flickery, pixel slideshow artificially boosted to 45 ? Not "very playable" at all. That input lag is so huge , u can clearly see him first flick the analog stick and like a half a second later translate that movement in the game
Hopefully you can do a video like this for the Aya Neo 3 if u get it. Would like to know best settings for maximum performance since it has an AI 9 HX 370
I just installed it, used your configuration works very well, now I’m stuck in a mission where in the start you have to send Robbie a picture of two guys with frees bee, the game works but after sending the photo you have to open the map, and this is not showing. Character freezes and everything else works. How to fix it idk)
My goat 🙏🏽
I watched this video and I subscribe to your channel and I don't even have a Steam deck 😅❤ really appreciate your video man😉❤️
Spiderman 2 for PC is already here? Damn that's super fast.
Might as well lower the resolution down to 480p just to get it to run smoothly on the Steam Deck lmao.
input lag looks awful tbh
It looks like the game works better than Jedi survivor on deck and I have finished it 3 times already and it’s definitely playable. I wonder if I should buy it now or wait for discount
Bloody brilliant game!
I'm getting sick of seeing everyone and there mother throw frame gen at poor performance. All you're doing is swapping one problem for another. Sure it looks good now, but it's input lag is in the mid 20's since you locked it to 45fps. Like I get it, wanting to play the newest stuff on the Deck, I have a Deck too, but game requirements are getting higher, and when you try and make Frame gen the solution you're misleading people as to the actual capabilities of the device, but my biggest pet peeve, is that he starts the video with frame gen already enabled. Show how it runs without it, THEN show the frame gen, at least then the viewer knows what they are getting into rather than them buy it and find it plays like crap.
Thank you very much for sharing! The result is incredible with 45 frames per second.
The only small question I have is that when I use these settings, the small yellow objective indicator or the red triangles indicating an ongoing crime behave strangely and flicker slightly when I navigate the world. Is there a way to fix this?
Thanks for sharing ❤
That's one of the side effects of frame generation.
Just imagine the beast that a STEAM DECK 2 WILL BE...?
but its not gonna be around for a while. next year if we're extremely lucky
@lyndongaming we are looking at a 2nd gen strix halo kinda chip... Some 4080 or 4090 mobile level power chip, unified memory 32gb or 40gb , silicon carbon battery 80wh or 90wh, full size ssd PCI gen 5, 8inches oled 1080p screen... Next year ending or 2027... Around when next gen would be launching
Getting this next month.
steamdeck uses custom AMD Van Gogh APU, which is missing AVX2 support
does this mean the game is playable without avx2
@@pryorfn3263 Yes, AMD's Zen 2 architecture supports Advanced Vector Extensions 2 (AVX2). AVX2 is an instruction set that expands the capabilities of vector integer SSE and AVX instructions.
Explanation
AVX2 support in Zen 2 improves performance by increasing the execution unit width from 128-bit to 256-bit.
Zen 2 also supports single-op support for AVX-256 instructions.
Zen 2's architecture is optimized to reduce contention in integer execution.
I cant imagine how a sony or Microsoft console will run after seeing how easy spiderman runs on that machine
I have the Deck and a 7840U device, I didn't think they'd be capable of running this.
can you test it on the legion go plz
Framegen is simply amazing! Diablo 4 maxed out, hdr 90fps ! Path of Excile 2, 60fps. These upscalers are a must have on handhelds, and a dream come true. Lifespan expanded 👌
After playing and beating it on PS5 running in performance I'd do all I could to hit 60 fps - I covet that above all else.
Love your videos, but a game can not be steam deck verified for text size... so I really wouldn't put too much stock into that.
Mine was so bad i had to refund it. I would like to try again in a few weeks
LMAO, so you are using both upscaling AND frame generation in order to get to that 45 frames per second?! xD
From somebody thay hasn't played a Spiderman game since the original PlayStation, which one do people recommend? Is Spiderman 2 better than Spiderman 1? And can I play Spiderman 2 without context from any other previous stories? I'm not really a huge Spiderman fan, just wanted to try one out for a spin.
@@skycloud4802 There's an optional recap custscene that covers the events of Marvel's Spider-Man and Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, which predates the events of this game.
The web-swinging is faster in 2, including options to make it more manual like the Playstation 2 games. Otherwise, a lot of the combat and stealth elements have been refined.
It might be worth your while to try it.
Nice framegen buddy
Downloading the game on my STEAM OLED as we speak. Play at home on my Desktop, and playing the game at work when we have down time :)
I am also going to download it on my ROG Ally X just to see how well it runs there.
Runs wayyy better on the X
@@LingLing-ou6nt good, glad to know
@@LingLing-ou6nt I installed the game on the X. The game runs almost fabulous at High Settings with some Minor tweaks.
Can you make a video on steam deck frame gen?
Could atleast show game without Frame gen, like rly i would never turn that setting on, if game didnt run 30 then ial just pass it.
Yeah, no thank you. Playing anything with frame generation when the base FPS is below a stable 45 FPS is a complete waste of time. It will feel terrible at all times, which is clearly evident in your video-the input latency is far too high. I highly doubt you’ll continue playing this way once you turn the camera off.
How are you using 7.6 gb of vram and 13.1 gb of ram when the steamdeck only has 16gb of ram and its split between ram and vram you have 21gb at least when you add thoes numbers up
@@darkrose736 swap
Could you pls do a comprison between onexfly f1 pro vs steamdeck oled vs rog ally x and msi claw 8 plsss
can you try it on the legion go
Would this work the same on the lcd ?
Im sorry but 23 FPS input into frame gen looks awful.
What happened to your left thumb 😮 ?
Using frame gen at 40 FPS feels illegal.
Its really a ps4 pro game but still amazing
Test this game on Intel Arc iGPU. I'm talking about Intel Core Ultra 285K. Thanks.
Will it run well on steam Deck running windows? should right?
Can toi try it with onexgph 2 with usb4 ?
0:40 He is definitely dead.
working better on Windows with Lossless Scaling
Thats crazy that steam deck can play it but not rx 580 💔💀
Frame Gen is actually awful lol. Play it at low settings and lock it to 30fps.
SM2 not verified looks good on steam deck, while ff7 rebirth is verified looks like 💩 on steam deck.
This so called "expert" is recommending locking 45fps with framegen on. Seriously?
You only have 26% power left bro!
whats igti?
It's amazing how well optimized Nixxes ports are.
Yo ETA Prime, what's good my dude? 🤙 I saw your vid on Spidey 2 for the Steam Deck, and I gotta ask - how you gonna do my man Spidey dirty like that, running him at 45 FPS? 😒 Ain't he supposed to be swinging through the city at lightning speed? You tryna make him look like a grandpa or what? 🤔 I know you said it's 'playable', but c'mon, this is the web-slinger we're talking about! Gotta keep that action crisp, ya feel me? 💯
asus thunderbolt 5 egpu is out
Well such a beautiful game and playing in a blurry mess.😢
IT RUNS REALLY GOOD!!!
How is the controller latency when docked? I was playing it on my laptop hooked up to my tv and the controller latency is horrible unless i turn off Vsync and even then i get horrible screen tears with Vsync off.
Im on the fence
People that aren’t sucking off the steam deck, how does it feel? That 45 on the fps counter doesn’t mean anything if the input delay is absolutely brutal.
45fps with frame generation is horrible lol.
😁😁😁👍👍👍
Look terrible, choppy as hell. Please don't be stupid and dont use FG with low framerate.
Check with decky framegen🙄
*Ouch* 🤢🤮
Stuttery mess. Why would you even play a great game like this what a horrible experience
This game is unoptimised
it really isn't, you have no idea what you're talking about
Its not unoptimized, the steam deck is too weak. The steam deck struggles even with a lot of last gen titles. You can't blame a next gen game for running bad on steam deck as it uses hardware that was practically considered low end by the PC community midway through that generation. People need to keep their expectations for what the steam deck can run in check and stop expecting it to run games that were built for literally a whole generation newer of hardware well and stop acting like the steam is this ultra powerful high end gaming device. It was impressive for a HANDHELD when it came out, but even when it came out it was essentially outdated low end PC hardware. Almost every new major game running on a next gen engine runs like crap on steam deck. And that's not the games fault.
45fps framegen lol just lock it at 30 🙄
Segs
Lmao 40 fps and probably upscaling
@AverageUser- ok? Shame on developers on this I guess ...?
Their should be no excuse not to be released on ps4.
Why would they release it on an old console? Ps5 is half way through it's life span. There's no reason to focus on ps4
Spiderman 2's story has so much weird DEI garbage it's not worth even purchasing.
How does it run at medium settings?
First
They uglified MJ for spider-man 2, and laced it with woke crap. Don't buy games from studios that hate you.
Unplayable
Looks horrible 😅
I downloaded Pokemon Uranium on my steam deck that I'm playing til payday when I can get Spiderman 2