Nepotism: Are We Missing the Point?
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Eat The Children of the Rich?
Nepo babies are having an unwelcome moment in the public spotlight, eliciting the ire of many a social media user. But why is ragging on the kids of the rich and famous so addicting? Why do nepo babies make us so angry? Let’s find out in this Wisecrack Edition: Why We Hate Nepo Babies.
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Nepotism is far worse in the political family dynasty than in the entertainment industry.
Just look at President Bush and President Bush.
Try Monarchy.
Yea this video focused way too much on the bullshit pop media side of nepotism.
It feels like people see the problem (nepotism) but instead of looking at a group where it matters, they choose to critizise actors because it is more carefree.
Why is it worst?
It only bothers me when these kids act that they know what it's like to be broke, when they have wealthy parents. See all the damn articles on how to pull yourself up by your boot straps, while simultaneously being the product of nepotism.
Actually that was always the point of “pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps.” The quote was about how either you’re born into advantage and others lift you up or your stuck trying to pull yourself into success by yanking up on your own shoes. Then the already rich who started off slightly less rich went “that’s it! That’s how I did it all on my own!” completely missing the point.
My favourite is when they interpret pointing out nepotism as be synonymous with not working hard. 'But I worked hard for this' is just about the most daft thing a nepo baby can say.
KK: People just don't want to work!
What you do all day wouldn't be called "work" anywhere I've lived, Ms. Kardashian.
Agreed; perpetuation of the American dream myth; i don’t mind them when they actually have talent but so many don’t and they only get projects because of who their parents are
> It only bothers me when these kids act that they know what it's like to be broke
Pulp addressed this in 1995 with their song "Common People".
The amount of no name struggling work two jobs actors I have met who have more skill and talent in the craft then most A list is depressing. There are so many insanely gifted actors who from one moment have you dying laughing to sobbing to hating and loving them who will never get a shot is just criminal to the art world. I’ve even known people who get replaced by a TikTok influencer who can’t act never took a class or anything just walk in and take the role. So depressing
I have run into nepotism as a real problem everywhere I look. I was the first in my family to go to law school and because I didn't grow up around the law, found myself at a huge disadvantage, not being able to really understand what I was supposed to do as quickly as others, and not having anywhere I could turn for help. And when it came time to try to get a job or pass the bar, I struggled there too for the same reasons. It's much harder to get hired when my daddy isn't a partner in a big law firm that has been holding a place for me since I was 5. And it's impacted my music career too. Sure I can make my music on a shoestring budget and self publish for pennies, and that's relatively ok because I make my music primarily for myself, but I'll likely never have the exposure of Miley Cyrus simply because her dad made a hit song before she was even born, and signing a real record label is nearly impossible because not only am I not connected to anyone inside the industry, and have a difficult time knowing how I would even do that, my music isn't exactly safely marketable either. Not that I don't believe it's good enough to be marketable but it's...quite different than most of the stuff out there and in a world where creativity is dead that presents a risk.
I've been in law for a little over 30 years and can attest to every word you say. I remember 10 years ago, one of the partners sent around an email with a resume of his (totally unqualified!!!) friend's daughter. He wanted her to be the new secretary while she went to law school. It came down to two people, her - a white girl with no experience, typed 35 wpm, didn't know MS Office - and a Black man with 10 years experience, typed 60 wpm, knew ALL of MS Office plus Visio and a whole host of other programs. When they came in to interview, I was part of the group that had to speak with them. The qualified man was genial, his skills laudable, and I knew I could work well with him because he was highly intelligent. The unqualified girl was REALLY rude, and I remember she spent the whole time telling me what she would change and how this was a nice "pit stop" on her way to being a partner in 10 years. Of the four interviewing her, three of us wanted the qualified man. The Partner wanted the stupid chick we all hated. *Guess who got the job despite us being against it?*
@@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 What I hate is they put you through the charade of interviews and asking for your feedback just for the appearance of being unbiased. Why not just say this is who we are picking, and if you don't like it suck rocks? Well, I know the answer: to avoid lawsuits. But it's a waste of resources and money to carry on these dog and pony shows.
Even when you have connections unless they are willing to go to bat for you it will not help you despite being more talented than signed artists.
"It's one big club, and you ain't in it"
- George Carlin
I made it just in time for the George Carlin quote🎉
in words of Grouch Marx, I am joining a club so I can hit you over the head with it!! no we ain't in it, I ain't a borg/zombie/sheep either , just like George! gottta love George!
"I don’t want to belong to any club that would have me as a member!" - Groucho Marx
@@QCteamkill another solid one
@@QCteamkill This shouldn’t made me laugh so hard
Every Wisecrack video should just be called “More things that make you depressed, of which you might or might not already be aware, but we put it into words for you.”
And that’s why I keep coming back.
hell yeah, depression
😐
lol and THIS is why i miss the media analysis videos 😢 ppl just crave hitting that depression/outrage button in the rat cage.
True, but one can't stay in depression forever.
@@sinnsage part of the problem is that large segments of the population don't have the language to express the systemic issues they face in life. Imo this is how we combat the simplified newspeak we are submerged in
As a 4th generation nepobaby myself, I have to explain how this works for outsiders. 30%-50% of everyone in the entertainment-sports-media complex qualifies as an NB somehow. This holds true for all positions behind the camera as well, possibly more so.
Because so many people are related to others in the Industry, that fact alone won't do much for you - unless the name is so big and untouchable that it writes its own ticket, i.e., Selznick or Warner.
The sad reality is that accident of birth is becoming the entrance ticket into not just advancement but application to the entire system. It's most common in particular crew positions; entire families will fill a roles in what are supposed to be open union jobs. THAT'S what the article should've looked into, on both coasts, and done real reporting.
We just literally had a president install his family as members of his administration, I can’t remember that ever happening before.
I don't understand the first sentence of the last paragraph, would you be so kind to explain it? English isn't my native language so on a topic that I'm incompetent on reagardless of language lol it becomes a bit harder to string what the words probably mean.
@@essennagerry They're saying that to even have a chance of getting into the system, you have to be lucky enough to be born to people who are already in it. This makes the chance of becoming big and important even smaller.
Sounds like your argument is basically "everyone does it so it isn't nepotism." What a pathetic argument.
@@essennagerry Hello! C.M. is making two points with that sentence:
1) Being born to famous or industry parents is key to getting into the whole system;
2) Having the ability to APPLY to be in the industry most often now requires you to be born famous or have industry parents.
In other words, if you aren't famous, or the child/relative of someone famous, don't bother even trying. 😔
I was an actor for a few years a in LA and just for curiosity, started looking into this. It goes way deeper and it's been happening for decades. Add in children who's parents were not famous but rich, it happens too. They can basically buy their way in.
Jaden Smith’s whole life has been take your child to work Day
The real issue is that these kids are, for the most part, not nearly as talented. I feel like there's no appreciable genetic quality to artistic ability (well, maybe the Bach family, but they honestly put in a huge amount of work). It's all about marketing a name along some talent. Jaden Smith is a goddamn turnip on screen, but he keeps getting put up there 'cos daddy wants it.
@@500dollarjapanesetoaster8 the only thing he inherited from his dad was the last name Smith. Cause it damn sure wasn’t talent or charisma
More like “take your son to Scientology day”!
That's the best way to learn from your parents and do it at almost the same level or better.
@@Thefamilychannel723 Better than who ? He clearly hasn’t learned a damn thing
Because we live in a society that associates wealth with self worth.
You could have stopped at society
Van Lathan once said something so poignant whenever there was another spree of rapper murders. Specifically in rap/hip-hop, there is a criminalization of being poor. Not just loving wealth but absolutely hating being broke. So many lyrics about nothing being worse than being a poor person, and not necessarily self-reflectively, but having a general commentary that views poor people as valueless
Its always been that way. Only now youre being constantly reminded whenever you look at your phone and go through your day thinking youre missing out on life.
and? What other metric would we use?! I just dont get why everyone is just now understanding that. That is not even an American thing, it's all of humans throughout history.
@@alexkirrmann8534 we should use beauty as a measure
We are surrounded, in every industry, with children of privilege. It’s inevitable that those with connections will prosper while those without will have to fight twice as hard to achieve the same lofty dreams. It’s always going to be not what you know but who you know.
Started working at the bottom of a company with a co-worker whose dad was exec. No matter how hard anyone else worked or how good job they did the son was set up to work his way up to CTO in 5 years. Every year they just gave him a new job until he was CTO. That's when I left the work force havent worked in 2 years. I realized I was just there to set other ppl up for success with my work while they kept me at the bottom not because of a lack of talent but a lack of connections. Fk that shit.
A nepobaby is like an onion.. there are layers:
- they taking advantage of something his family/friends did: I have no problem.
- they taking advantage and denying that their situation helped getting were.they are now: really annoying, but can be ignored.
- they taking advantage, denying their situation and criticizing guys that are not successful for things out of their control: now we have a problem.
- they taking, advantage of their situation, denying that advantage, criticizing guys that are not successful because they don't have the same situation and actively trying to make the situation of others worse: ooh boy, shit is going to get nasty.
So, don't hate the nepobaby. Hate the nepobaby that is also an asshole.
I'd imagine in between the 2nd and 3rd layer there is also something about them lacking their own talent or skill
@@fdfischer Jayden Smith
I think this is why the TV show COMMUNITY was so excellent. It was a perfect parody of TV and actually did something original by pointing out the profound boring predictability of TV tropes.
"one by one, they(culture 😓) all just fade awayyyy...."
@Mike Are you high? Did the office have a claymation episode? What about GI Joe? 8 bit trapped in a video game? But they had a zombie episode or several about all out paintball war? The Office is funny for sure but in no way comparable to Community.
@@cooper1507 No. The shows are very similar. Ensemble shows, with no real "main character", a diverse cast that have wacky adventures and situations, in a seemingly mundane place, with a bit of a slice of life quality.
"Did the office have an episode..." dumb argument. When it comes to story telling, it's not about the claymation or the zombies. It's the reaction to it. While the office doesn't have episodes like these, you haven't mentioned the themes message of those episodes, which, I guarantee there are episodes of the office that do.
"In no way comparable" You're the one that's high. Community is literally a show that references tv shows and movies all the time. You really think none of what they got is from the office?
All tv shows nowadays are just repackaged versions of past tv shows.
You are 100% correct, Cooper, and your comment is Streets Ahead!! #SixSeasonsAndAMovie!!
@@LanceRedCock While a lot of shows do spoof episodes, few go as far as Community. I can't think of any show that went as far as creating a Ken Burns's Civil War parody to show an argument between two friends. It wasn't just a formulaic sitcom taking place in a Community College, their form of writing and storytelling was different. There are definitely other examples of sitcoms going against the grain. For example, Arrested Development used running gags to the extreme to the point where you have to be around since the pilot to understand a third of the jokes in a later episode (some people relate it to a Rube Goldberg machine).
“There probably won’t be culture in 25 years”
Lol I feel that.
i think there will only be some fart produced by an AI.
You dont think culture will be a thing in 25 years lol, is this a joke.
Most dystopian thing I've heard in a while, and it seems like it'll probably be true
All art will become bullshit, bullshit and divertive.
@@MisterCynic18 did you hear about the Chinese Military installing self destruct systems into their helmets. It is a “solution” to their desertion problems, now let’s see if they have a dip in enlistments
Like I don’t mind a line of Nepo babies if they are committed to the art like their relatives. I can see the importance of keeping the talent of music and painting in a family and the fact that Bach’s whole family were musicians only contributed to his amazing art!
What I have a problem with is sticking your niece in an artistic and beautifully made show like Euphoria and giving her an entire cringe episode even though she has no raw talent or even procured talent. If you are a nepo baby i expect you to be phenomenal!
Are you referring to any particular actor?
@@craydogdog1530 What I'm trying to figure out lol.
Euphoria is not beautifully made I’m sorry. It’s just a really weird show
That show was created by a nepo baby. Lol. Sam Levinson is the son of director, Barry Levinson.
But the problem isn't quality of the actor/production. It is the fact that these people take opportunities that would have gone to more deserving people. Granted, it is hard to say whether someone else could have created a show like Euphoria, given how literally no one else ever pulled off a show like that in the states despite numerous attempts, but with regard to Maude Apatow... I'm pretty sure a million other actresses would have crushed Lexi's role. That is the kind of role that a more talented actress would make their own. Maude, on the other hand doesn't do anything with it. She is completely replaceable. Of the core cast, Maude is the least capable one and it shows that she was a nepo baby. Not to be mean, but even her plain features are a dead giveaway. Aside from that big girl who is meant to look that way, Maude is the only one who isn't attractive in a cast of smokeshows. 😂😂😂😂 Everyone else has required Hollywood good looks (even the guys!) and then you have that average chick. It's hilarious.
My soul always feels broken when I am reminded that nothing original can get picked up these days. It doesn't matter how good my ideas are, how great my writing is, or even how much detail I polish into my work. No shows are movies will get picked up unless they are some recycled franchise or reboot. We live in a tike where there are more creative people than any other time in history, but everything is to uninspired and garbage.
Honestly I don't mind mild nepotism. It's when idiots like Jaden Smith tell people they don't need to stay in school that I get pissed.
Mild nepotism is like saying 'slightly pregnant'.
@@Xara_K1 Not really. Just like coincidence, there are degrees. It makes sense to want to work with family, it would be absurd to forbid a "family diner" for example, or banning the Cohen brothers or the Wachowskis, or telling people they can't make a family business (the corporate kind, not the Sean Connery movie). The problem is when the family members aren't qualified for an unrelated job and qualified people are ignored.
Nepotism is a product of a life lived unhinged from the reality that the rest of us face... you should care since it leads to us all living a worse off lifestyle...
@@GaiatheSage - worst faith possible reading of what they said, lol.
Maybe he was homeschooled
There's nothing wrong with having famous and successful parents, but it's when these people act like they've had no advantages whatsoever that the problem arises. Instead of denying their privilege, these folks should say something like, "I'm grateful for the doors that my family has opened for me, and I've still had to work hard to be successful."
Of course, many of them haven't had to work hard and that is exactly the point.
They DO say that, they're all about tweeting "hashtag-blessed" up and down the street (in the same post where they show off their good fortune and rub it into the faces of those who weren't literally just lucky 😒).
Yeah, they still have to work hard to be good. Success is easily manifested.
I completely agree, a couple of years back Jaden Smith released an album and had a song titled "Icon" were boasts about all of his accomplishments and how he's "an icon living" and the whole time I was listening I just thought to myself. What have you ever done that was so "iconic"? this album is prime example of the privilege you were brought up in....
@@I.____.....__...__ Their point is that the wealthy need to learn to be humble, and no, posting "#blessed" under a 100+ character post showing off how wealthy and privileged you are counts as "being humble." Not bragging about their wealth is the first mandatory step to being humble.
They worked hard but it's not the point, working hard never was enough to succeed..they were given opportunity because of their parents..and it's not fair..
I don't usually thumbs up or comment, but I sincerely think this is one of the better Wisecrack videos I've seen - And it's an incredibly important topic that needs to be discussed more. Part of the problem with wealth inequality is that those already successful get more of the share of opportunities, especially in high paying fields - which continues to consolidate wealth. Rich and famous people, for example, continue to say - podcast, or do voice overs, or pro athletes become commentators when retiring. These jobs used to be places where the NOT rich and famous could start a career, and now - those already at the top are taking them over and pulling up the ladders behind them.
A certain bearded man once said:
The tradition of all dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brains of the living. And just as they seem to be occupied with revolutionizing themselves and things, creating something that did not exist before, precisely in such epochs of revolutionary crisis they anxiously conjure up the spirits of the past to their service, borrowing from them names, battle slogans, and costumes in order to present this new scene in world history in time-honored disguise and borrowed language.
I wonder what that was all about 👀
As a struggling actor, it makes the dream look more daunting and hopeless. But I still persist.
As you should! You have still have a chance. Odds are against you but there’s still a chance. These kid’s parents did it with no help. You can too! Just don’t make it too easy on your kid when they wanna follow in your footsteps 😂
Good luck brother. I gave up too early, wish I didn’t. It’s about the journey man. You’ll always be happier doing what you love even if you fail. Keep at it
Let the resistance remain
You should already know that even without nepotism being a thing.
if you aren't already connected to/with local film scenes that may help if larger institutions don't want to give you the time of day
I love sports and I think nepotism works differently in sports because it might give you some opportunities but as soon as it's clear your not as good as everyone else you won't be sticking around for long where as I feel like in other situations you can stay relavent while being mediocre if you have the right connections.
If u think about it being the son of a football star gives you the resources to become a football star if you wanted to. Time, money, life experience, connections etc. u have to admit having rich parents to fund your dreams is like playing on easy mode
@@breakingboundaries3950 yes they definitely have an easier path than the average person, that's why I said that it works differently and not that it doesn't exist
@@breakingboundaries3950 all i was trying to say is that even with all of the advantages at the end of the day they still have to be great at what they do, which isn't always the case for nepo baby's in art.
@@mariosandoval599 exactly. Teams aren’t signing you if you can’t produce. It might be easier to get eyes on you but you have to produce in sports.
Yup; for every Eli and Payton there is a sea of kids who couldn’t live up to their parents athletic careers; no one is going to keep you on their roster if you can’t produce no matter who your dad is
I think part of the celebrity nepotism problem definitely stems from the constant marketing from celebrities and especially the media about their kids. The public seems to be perpetually obsessed with the Kardashian kids or the children of athletes. We reinforce the probability that a child will be famous by focusing on them from a young age and only because of their parents cultural pull.
As a crazy long term Arctic Monkeys fan, I was not expecting this nostalgic flashback. Nor was I expecting to remember all the words.
If we stop looking at them, they will go away. This is why I love RUclips and podcasts. They give me an alternate form of entertainment.
Yeah remember jaden's movie career that basically started and ended with that silly Sci-fi movie? Lol
This is not a Hollywood problem, it's way worse in India, almost every star is from famous families. The only hope you have to be part of the industry is to get behind the camera, or some other insignificant work and get some connections and then maybe after a few decades your children can live your dream, if they even want to and if they are lucky.
Yea from watching the recent Indian movies on streaming , some of these kids have shown they have the talent in acting and not just throwing their weight around.
They have the bite to match the bark which I don't see in some of the general ppl those who want to get into acting/entertainment industry & who believe that they are hero or main character material and dont want to take up other roles wanting immediate success out of their career so they have bark but not the bite to make it big or justify casting them as main characters.
So don't generalize ur argument on talentless hacks from both sides of the aisle in the Indian entertainment Industry cause most of the gen pop applying for acting role have bigger egos than the star-kids and are all talk.
How is working behind the camera insignificant?
@@CamDavelle they aren't Indian , but a Indian-american/american trying to sound like they understand Indian film industry when behind the camera roles are some of most evergreen job prospects due to the no of TV shows that are shot in India.
@@ak-ub1ym ahh gotchu I’m gonna be quite honest a lot of the people in the comments sound like they’ll never be successful in life because there more worried about what opportunities other have or are given instead of blazing a path for themselves
@@CamDavelle yea its a low paying job but it's a long game & some stars and behind camera crew end up being a family and when these stars open their own studios and get into production/directions , things work out for these ppl , well normally can't generalize but that's how it goes.
In the media business , it's not about how u work but more like who u know and behind camera is the best way to get to know bigshots.
Man that little moment or dread you felt for the cultural death of your child’s future. I felt that all the way down in my dad pouch.
1) I don't know if nepo-babies give me a sense of safety or nostalgia because 90% of the time I have no idea young actors had famous parents way after the fact. I didn't know Jack Quaid was Dennis' son until like season 3 of the boys.
2) I used to ding Ready Player One for being so obsessed with the 80s and not having any new culture to speak of at all but it looks like that's where we're headed.
True, I loved Hughie way before I came to know he is nepo baby. Dude is talented and likeable. Period.
The reason why golden kids piss people off in art and sport is not about art and sport.
It's because we feel that the trend goes way beyond that.
We feel that anywhere in society, in any given profession, environment, suddenly, good birth does not only matters, but it's needed.
That is new in the American experience because America's promises as a country and political project, used to be the birth didn't matter.
Was it ever true though? I mean this was the same country where you could be born into slavery.
"Prepare to have your heart broken." Dave Chappelle
Meritocracy is not the primary guiding principle of the American ethos. Never has been. Never will be. It is but one of many means to an end.
The end goal is power. And the ones with the most power will utilize whichever means is most expedient toward their goal. Nepotism, slave wages, union-busting, even seemingly noble practices like meritocracy and diversity - equity - inclusion are all just means to an end of consolidating power.
wtf, america started on slavery
It's about cheat codes
@@MisterCynic18 *Preach it!!!!* 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Because money and capitalism
Edit: They changed the title from "Why do rich kids control the world" probably because anyone who is not an anarchocapitalist or libertarian would automatically know the answer to that question.
Nepotism….
Nuff said
Doesn’t it suck that whenever you discuss the great problems of our age, 9 outta 10 times the reason for it turns out to be capitalism?
The only careers to conceivably get you out of poverty the last couple decades have been athletics and the arts, probably because of the deep held myth that they’re the last industries of meritocracy, so breaking that notion is a wake-up call that there’s truly no way out
To capitalism, the cause and solution to all of life's problems.
This literally happens across every industry in every single walk of life. From the restaurant owner, to the building works manager, to the CEO of a large corporation. Children of successful people have inherited their parents careers for 1000s of years. Non-story.
Some of them are really good actors and most are above average in my opinion. If your parents are actors, you are already half way there, IF you wish to be an actor too. I imagine they all suffer from anxiety and have impostor syndrome. It's worth mentioning that there are the ones who try to distance themselves from the image of their parents and relatives, they want to be judge by their work and nothing else. Well, if I were a painter, for example, and my kid was a painter too, I would certainly try to help him. This is the human nature.
Also there should TOTALLY be a whole video on the built in generational nostalgia that's only gotten worse over the last 100 years. I mean, like renaissance dudes revered the Roman artists and philosophers, they wanted to go back to that simpler and nobler time. So it's not new, just worse.
While I agree, the comparison with the renaissance doesn't really hold: there was a rediscovery of ancient Greece culture, in part because many intellectuals had fled from the fallen Byzantine Empire. So, though ancient, the greek classical culture was actually innovative and surely not nostalgic in renaissance Italy.
You should watch the movie, Midnight in Paris. It's about what you just said.
Pierre Bourdieu's knowledge incoming...It's wayyy easier to try things when you don't risk your life on it.
The land of the free. Free to obey to the rules that the dominant group made for you.🧠
Rules to which they don't obey themselves.
RIP Mark Fisher. He was right about most things, and miraculously fertile intellectually given the depression and work stress and insecurity he struggled with his whole adult life. God rest him and heal him, and grant him his place of honour at the Resurrection. I'm so happy to see his arguments, and my own thoughts arising from them, being amplified like this.
One of my pet peeves, as I have gotten older, is hearing people from the arts talk about their process. This is doubly unpalatable when it come from children of already-established “creatives”.
I like the sport of analyzing every aspect of the human psyche, also checkers.
I've had a discussion with a friend of mine, she comes from a poor situation with poor school engagement (a former villager) I've asked out of the blue in highschool why does she engaged in reality shows and celebs and simply told me is a form of escapism. I've always felt bad and grossed out about celebrities ever since because on the one hand they're seen by millions as a self insert in a fantasy with "no worries", basically these ppl are objects ...
I feel like for women especially (in my experience, though not exclusively) seem to over-empathize/relate/compare-themselves with people in glamourous positions. The royal-family would be over tomorrow if women were not interested in what other women looked like, or the low-level house gossip surrounding what jam these aliens consume and the like.
Maybe some of that is baked into all of us though, like appreciating a great athlete's feats, we appreciate displays of wealth and power we can rarely do more than aspire to poorly mimic.
I promise you your sympathy will get you nowhere. These people are not owed any humanization while more than half the world starves.
Thanks for saying this i never understood this admiration that people have for stupid or bad people just because they famous! It's the root of the problem..
Will and Jada provide the best stock reference of this topic, I think. You have off-the-rails abstract Jaden verses talented Willow. There is a good and bad side of nepotism. The two siblings provide the best highlight of that in my opinion.
I like your argument that nepo-babies aren't really the cause of the media landscape that some are finding a problem with, but more a side effect...not really sure what else to say. Liked the video.
The real reason we hate nepo babies is that we are kind of tired of rich people in this country anyways, we just give people who came from modest means a pass. The only way the American dream mythos works is if the only way to wealth is talent, skill, and hardwork. Nepo babies are just one of the many reminders that many people that are wealthy get there through other means. They aren't really even the worst either. Plenty of people get wealthy off scamming or exploiting others. Nepo babies just happen to be celebrities and so they are more in the public eye.
Basketball coach here, love the channel. I'd appreciate more sports content. The philosophies of sports can be very interesting
A huge part of life is making the best out of the cards you've been dealt with. These nepo-babies happened to be lucky enough to be dealt the celebrity baby card. Could we blame them? I mean if we were in their shoes how would you be? Just something to think about.
Love watching your videos guys! I do actually love sports (football, tennis, basketball, etc.) and would love to see some sports psychology videos or maybe on the state of mental health in the sports community and how that has been evolving and coming more and more to light in recent years. I think that would be a great topic to explore and hear your guys' take on. Much love and keep it up for Mikey Jr.!
I like combat sports. MMA is a martial art that really says, "it doesn't matter who you are unless you can fight", and I really respect that. Yeah there are lineages, like the Gracies, but they're all legitimately talented fighters. While the promoters can do shady things and be flat out jerks (looking at you, Dana), it's mostly a sport that's fairly true to its roots of brutal effectiveness.
I'm not familiar with MMA because I find combat sports kind of morally gross, but I used to watch boxing when I was young. Think Mike Tyson's heyday. If MMA is anything like that, who you are still matters. Why? Because you can choose who and when you fight!
Agree. You cant buy ur way into a UFC belt (even though some popular fighters get better opportunities) they still gotta show up in the ring and fight, and win, man to man.
@@tpeterson9140 At least in my example of boxing, yes, the popular fighters got better opportunities, but they were also known to avoid fighting certain people. When you can choose who and when you fight, that also means you can choose who you don't fight; if you happen to be a title holder, that also means anyone who you choose not to fight never gets a chance to contend for the title.
@@jemiller226 that isnt nepotism though
@@shrub9677 I never said it was. I was just saying that who you are matters in sports, too.
Why rich kids rule the world you ask I guess because they have money and money makes the world go round they say !
That expression is so cringe.
I love how they showed The Beatles playing the rooftop concert, which was their first live performance after many years as a studio-only band, followed by a clip of XTC performing on Letterman, which was their first live performance after many years as a studio-only band.
Great conclusion to your video. Well done and thank you.
Watched The Pursuit of Happyness last night and was struck by how ironic it was to see little Jaden cosplaying 'poor' with his daddy.
This video hits right on the spot. I struggle to find art I can relate to although I have a Spotify and Netflix subscription! Somehow YT is the only thing that gets close but I am feeling it is becoming too “commercial” already.
Get the streaming platform Mubi
Yeah I was gonna recommend mubi. I watched a movie in it called Actual People the other day, from 2022, and I really enjoyed it. It's about that middle-class post-graduate existential crisis, but I didn't find it daft or unconnected to reality at all. But yeah I grew up on arthouse cinema so I'm definitely biased.
Agreed! This is why I prefer RUclips and tiktoks from average fucking nobodies that grow organically
Yes. I watch sports. I am currently an active athlete. Mostly combat sports, and curling, when it's on.
Keep up the good work! Love it!
Artist here. Thanks once more for a video. Its all about connections for me, personally, same as what took from university. Connections. Made me have work. That payed. A little. I dont know any real rich persons, but the wealthy better off had it much easier sustaining their career. Mine too, thanks dad, a teacher. One more thing. I was 18 years old when i decided to not strive for aesthetics ( although i have fallen back on em strongly time and time again) but for deeper meaning, another plane of understanding so to say. Since then i can only ever repeat stuff for about five times before it bores me, and feels understood. Which makes recognition very hard. Just like actors faces, painters, artists need to be recognizable to be successful i am sure. Oh well. That at least is a decision. But also here, connections rule. Recently seen through the nft shite story. Look at galleries, museums, whatever they all sustain each others meaning in the art-ecosystem. They know each other.
Mark Fisher's essay came right before dubstep. And while dubstep as a genre may not be going strong, its influence on most genres of popular music and even in sound effects are obvious.
And he wrote about that, too
@@MarcelReschke Not surprising. I just find it interesting that he writes an essay about how there's nothing new right before something very new became popular.
@@Kaylakaze I was looking for this comment, It was definitely cherry-picking, even before dubstep he could have chosen a band or artist which sound was not based on nostalgia. Arctic Monkeys first albums was garage rock revival, the point was to sound like it could have been from the 70s or 80s.
You can't fool me. Everyone knows there's only one sport, Sportsball. I love Sportsball!
Offended in sportspuck
I’m so glad y’all fixed the thumbnail 👏🏽
I really love sports and I really love your channel and I got excited to see lebron & bronny in today's video. I'd love to see you breakdown sports related topics in the future!
Bronny is definitely getting into the league, not because of skill, but because Lebron literally keeps saying he wants to play with him. Lebron even said, "I can call any college and get him on a team."
I understand wanting your kids to succeed, but he is putting a lot of pressure on someone who isn't as gifted as him athletically or physically, and I hope Bronny is able to overcome all that when challenges come very soon.
I'm glad Lebron has embraced white privilege.
@@rogersam1294 lmao
I think there's a bit more nuance within the debate. One Nepobaby is not the same as another. There are clear people that have no descernibie talents and are famous just for being X celebrity's kid. However, when you think about, if one were to grow up around movie sets all the time, you would undoubtedly pick up a few things that would help you flourish within the industry (not just contacts). For example, both my parents are scientists, and even though my career is nowhere close to their's, I've learned a lot of shit that let's me understand what someone in that area is talking about. TLDR, nepobabies also have the advantage of getting extra experience which can make them good at their job.
And a lot of talent is, frankly, genetic.
😮 Ooo I felt this!!! Well done 👍🏼
Wow, wasn't expecting the amazing insight this video provided, as a working-class disabled artist this is so true. Thanks for blowing my mind Wisecrack 🤯
Isn't it funny how whenever we pull the rubber mask off the cartoon monster, it's _always_ capitalism sneering at us underneath?
who could ever have guessed that the economic system that bases itself around profit at all costs and funneling money upwards might be bad?!
@@hairymcnipples when people ignore the tendency for capital to centralise and converge, this is where we end up
Reminds me of that Shaggy meme wherein he's basically sitting, head and shoulders slumped looking at the floor saying that he's tired. Every "monster" they've unmasked is simply some old guy to make money via crime.
Who would have guessed that the system we use is the main underlying factor to things going wrong
America loves capitalism...everything wrong is because even the poor people in usa love capitalism...
You can inherit looks and you can inherit money. You CANT inherit talent.
Talent is not magic, my dude. If you had acting lessons from childhood you will be at least a good actor.
Like, I don't get why people don't understand this: Someone who is in the scene knows how to navigate it much better than someone who has to get in first.
If you have a musician parent who starts training you as a toddler, you will be a good musician.
Like most things, it's 90% practice and 10% natural talent.
In most professions, being in the top 10% of performance, you are good enough to make it big with connections. Not so much in sports, you usually have to be in the top 99.5 or higher performance to get paid.
That's nepo babies. They get the skills faster and have more connections.
@@BillyBasd precisely my point, friend!
Hardwork beats talent plus acting isn't rocket science.
Tonnes of models getting roles in movies aren't nepo babies yet doesn't equate to better acting either. Cribbing about people working alongside they know seems to be just pathetic seething. It happens everywhere. People need to move on. Plus these are private businesses and institutions.
Michael I am so proud of you for pronouncing academics' names. I just needed you to know that.
It's truly the hardest part of my job.
My friend is a carpenter wwhise son got experience working on site during the school holidays from when he was 14. Hes 18 now, almost finished an apprenticship. My son's father and I worked in hospitality when we were young. My son now wants to work in hospitality. It's relatively common in every industry.
Fun fact meritocracy was originally created by an economist who mentioned about it in his dystopian novel from the late 50s. It wasn't something people were suppose to latch on to. The economist actually regretted writing the novel because so many didn't get meritocracies were a bad thing
How are they bad? Because it rarely happens? Several nations have employed meritocratic measures to great effect.
What economist and what novel? You didn’t prove anything by saying that.
@@gvd72 " It was then popularized by sociologist Michael Dunlop Young, who used the term in his dystopian political and satirical book The Rise of the Meritocracy in 1958.[3]" - Wikipedia
@@kamarulbahari152 Iffy.
On the one hand, the new rise of meritocracy mirrors Confucianism as it was practiced in public life, i.e.- stilted society with no room to grow.
The critique from Young is less on standards (although we could debate how even those are... manufactured to favor certain groups), but the lack of churn.
Increasingly meritocracy isn't about selecting the best and brightest ("how are they the best"), but artificial restraints on who can succeed (there only a few places at the top).
Ultimately, it's a structural issue.
Whether Young liked it or not, his book was about elitism and how those with power attempt to justify their power (intelligence instead of class). It's about how that entrenchment and lack of mobility is detrimental to a society.
The adaptation of the term 'meritocracy' into standard english is still about those with the best ability doing the task, but rejects the lack of mobility suggested by Young. It's a methodology well proven in the historical record.
The modern proponents should do a better job of addressing elitism, mind you.
It's an important distinction that gets missed by the 'well actshually' crowd.
It sometimes makes me wish the "must have skipped a generation" concept was real
I’m a huge sports fan and a huge Wisecrack fan! Yay for multitudes.
I think wisecrack is overdue for a philosophy of sports (or "friendly" competition) video. Would love to see a mash up with sb nation. The Latin derivative competere means "to meet or come together" and I have also heard it interpreted "to strive together". The importance of learning how to be part of a team and how to compete as an individual may be more important than ever. Understanding the relationships between skill, luck and hard work can be explored there as well as the depth and limitations of free will. The perversion of professional sports as a tool for political and religious propaganda or to maintain toxic social norms and success biases could be explored in depth on the other end of the spectrum. Please! love you all!
Does this also apply to Nicholas Cage? Or is he a good example of being a nepo baby that did it right?
i think he changed his name so he wouldn’t be associated with his family, so i kinda respect him more cuz of that
Yes, because he did something relatively fresh and he is also straight up good at what he is doing.
I love sports! Mostly soccer, basketball, and (guilty pleasure) football. Sport is one of the last aggregators in our society and can bring so many cultures together from across the world. Sports also are a great way to learn life lessons, such as perseverance, leadership, and collaboration, while also serving as a good lab to test sociological concepts (ex., how do people react to new data? Is success because of effort, luck, or both? Is winning more important than entertaining?). I think sports nerdom is often seen as a lesser form of nerdom because of the proximity to jocks, but I'm a proud sports nerd who loves all that comes with it and views it the same way one might view performance art.
Yeah, you're right, it isn't about them getting a leg-up. It's always about the leg-ups going so far that everyone else is not even getting a chance for a lead role anymore. The fact some casting directors need to now be told to cast fresh undiscovered talent is wild to me. The barriers to entry are already very damn expensive in the film industry on both sides of the camera so classism also automatically plays a role and nepo babies don't have to worry about the money aspect for sure.
These kids would never really know a 7:00am to 5:00pm job.
They wont even have an idea what life Is like outside the cheesebell of their home that their famous parents bought
Thank you guys for not being jerks and actually talking about some frustrating topics about American culture like celebrity worship or wealth porn. Another very prominent thing in American culture, anti-intellectualism/critical thinking.
The problem with Neppo babies is when the kids don't inherit their parents talent. Bach coming from a musical family isn't an issue given his fame is based off his incredibly work. Likewise in sports it's unlikely you'll ever make it if you don't have the talent and work ethic. You can't expect parents/families not to show their kids how to play an instrument or the skills needed for their sport.
The issue is neppo-babies who lack talent, or are given opportunities well beyond what their talent should realistically achieve so quickly.
Can't imagine I had to scroll down this far off to find someone speaking sense
Have you tried not watching their work and giving them money?
@@gabbar51ngh I think most of us don’t after discovering their lack of talent/ability. But money is already wasted by then. But in stuff like films, TV shows, those are ensemble pieces of production, you can always avoid what you want to see just to avoid one Nepo casting decision.
It’s easier to hate a person than a system which is harder to understand.
Look up “stay as you are” Evanston in Chicago. One of the few examples of real art in this day and age
I find this funny because at the same time we live in an era which promotes getting famous as the pinnacle of a human life and also technology offers dozens of ways to try and achiev this.
The technology is accesible to almost everyone, which is means it’s possible for almost no one.
Most popular UK music artists (and actors, too) these days have all been to theatre/drama school and come from privileged backgrounds which is why they are all so bland. You are correct that the dole gave people with no money, and often no desire to be rich, the opportuntiy to develop and innovate while being individuals.
As a Jamaican I loved Chet Hanks accent, they're white Jamaicans here so it isn't insulting. He was spot on and he sounded great we loved it.
This is one of the best and most connected to human sociology that I’ve seen connected. I am very very impressed!
There is an other solution: we should just accept that we are not living in a meritocracy but in a modern caste system. We are all here to serve the rich and powerful and to idolize the famous. That's is the role of us wage slaves. Any ambition towards social mobility is hybris.
And after we have accepted that, we should burn it all down.
I love sports. I love your channel. I'm definitely not as smart as any of you. But, I find a lot of your content interesting. Mixed martial arts and hockey are my favourites. I also love chess, I'm usually able to win my reserves' annual tournament.
Michael, I have to say, video after video you've gained my heart. I confess: first I was all like "who dis bold dude? where's Jared?" I will totally support your nepo babies if they decided to become youtubers as well
I love me the sports balls game. I've even done a sporting one time before. Scored me once a balls points. Did a run about. Joined a game club team. I even went outside.
I truly think a lot of them are talented, I would definitely just like to see more ppl on screen who are not related to someone else famous
I think once someone is born wealthy, it's difficult for them to live or imagine in a lifestyle other than where they are, as they mostly or only learned life skills and experiences that revolves around having that wealth.
Meanwhile, someone who born poor. Will have the base skills and experience to survive regardless what they have.
This will give the poor people that flexibility and adaptability they can do more for less. While wealthy people can only do what they only know, limited by their bank accounts.
Your opening talking about sports totally lost me.. I was like wtfudge am I watching, then you totally got me with the call out. Nailed it
💯💯💯 much better than The Take's current video on nepo babies
Lower class creatives like myself get a rude awakening when we realize we will NEVER make it because we’re born poor. An artist in my community has found a lot of success with the same skill-set. I thought he was like me, but it turns out he received an inheritance from his grandparents. He was able to attend one of the best (and most expensive) art schools: Rhode Island School of Design.
Being able to afford RISD (while not working) gaining the skills and a network, is what makes one successful. It isn’t about effort. It’s just money.
On top of this, he owns a house, works from home, has free time, and can afford to have a child, while I will never have any of those things-because I have never and will never receive money or opportunity from my family. Nepotism doesn’t just afford you success, it afford you a life.
Be better
Everything you have said is true. Don't get consumed by jealousy or bitterness.
Keep the day job. Do your art in your free time, don't let it die.
Plebs like us are lucky to get paid at all for our art
Easy, their rich parents pave a lot at from them to invest and start business. It’s funny, people will look at successes based wealth but it could easily be, being born into the right family.
It's not just entertainment industries, unfortunately in the workplace/job market nepotism/favoritism rules without rivals....
The supply and demand for entertainment is just so different now than it was in the previous eras, it's hard to compare paths to fame from different decades.
I love sportsball. Especially whackbat and ballkick.
I am a big Basketball fan, and the situation with Bronny made NBA fans everywhere laugh because LeBron wasn't even trying to hide the fact that his son was a nepobaby. There's a quote from LeBron himself where he says that if his son wanted to get into any college, all he would need to do was call admissions and he would be accepted. It was hilarious.
He was just saying the truth lol
I love that every aspect of life a d the world is either becoming bleak or is already bleak
I have watched my space and time shrink every day along with all of my dreams and most of my opportunities presented in my old family... Glad I left
Also bring back anime philosophy
Soccer/football fan here. I think the vast majority of fans understand that the sport is driven through money and connections of course, though at the end of the day, when it comes to training everyday, having to produce results on the pitch and what not, there’s only so much nepotism can give you.
The situation with Reyna is quite different since he’s an immense prospect for the team’s future. While US soccer is plagued with class issues (the pay-to-play system), Reyna being left out was criticized by fans since many saw him as a potential game changer on the pitch. Even if he had ties with nepotism, he is a genuinely class player, which in plenty of respects is all down to his own ability
Football and hoops baby! Would love to hear you guys tackling sports topics
I watched hockey for a little while while I lived in Pittsburgh, but I will admit that I referred to the arena as a "sports cathedral" a couple times because I couldn't remember the word "arena"