Grandfather taught me when you borrow a tool your become obligated to return it in better condition than you received it. Period. Hacksaw gets a new blade, chisel is returned sharp, gage returned cleaned, oiled, and maybe in a felt sleeve...the car gets a topped up tank of gas... etc. Just passed this along to a young student 10, he thanked me for the advice on how professional men do things. Seems your continuing the tradition. Thanks.
I love doing that on the rare occasion I borrow something. A concrete mixer; greased , realigned, and motor reconditioned for them. A car trailer re welded where it was broken, adding skills/ services they don't have. Make it that they would want you to borrow something.
I agree with the sentiment, however, make sure you know what you're doing. A lot of people are very particular about what gas they put in their vehicle and some require a higher grade than others. There's some tools I have which I care for in a very particular way and I would be annoyed if someone were to clean them or what have you because they thought they were being helpful.
Good stories. Here's one - borrow someone's cast iron skillet, then return it scrubbed with soap and brillo pads. (They will never loan you one of those again!)
Worked in a shop once among a thief. He was stealing everybody's tools. We were told, under no circumstances will you ever touch another guy's tools. One guy heated up a tool with a torch and then stepped away out of sight. It didn't take long before a guy screamed and the tool hit the floor. They opened his car trunk and there were all the stolen tools.
i had a boss long ago that would eat all the candy we had in a jar by the coffee maker. one of the guys put calf starter (looks pretty good if you squint enough) in the jar and the son of a gun ate it all.
John Tate at my current work we got a vise on a bench for welding so a dumb ass unbolted the vise and took it off the bench and walked out the door with it so we got a new vise and department that got the new vise welded the vise to the table
I was taught at a very young age that if you take care of your tools , your tools will take care of you . I'm 71 years old and I'm still using my Father's , Grandfather's , and Great Grandfather's tools .
So true. I mean, if you can't afford an expensive tool right away, thats fine. But if i see you getting a new 300bucks tattoo every month, instead of getting that piece of gear that you need so much, i will start to get pissed.
Clean up duties has been a pet peeve of mine, forever. When I stated as a millwright helper/trainee over 40 yrs ago, I was working in a shop where at some point it was decided that it was the MW helpers job to clean the shop at the end of the shift. There were 4 trades that shared that shop. An electrician, a welder/iron-worker. a pipe-fitter and the MW and I, the others had no helpers. On my first day I was told that it was my job to clean the whole shop regardless of whose mess was left behind. When I questioned the supervisor about that, he said that's the way it's always been, so just DO IT! So I did , i swept everything up and put it in a bag. The next day I went in a little early and sorted thru the bag and separated the junk by trade.The welders rod stubs and slag , the electricians' knockout plugs and bits of wire and sheathing, a couple of the PFs' cutoffs , ETC. You can imagine the looks on their faces when they found their individual junk in their lunch pails at supper time.When asked what the meaning of it was, I didn't lie, I told them that stuff must have had some personal meaning to them or they would have thrown it in the trash. I NEVER had to clean up any of their junk again, They just never left any around. lol
I’m an 18 year old kid starting to get into this world of machining and fabricating and this sort of video is super helpful to me and I am guessing everyone else in a similar place with knowing the little stuff so when we find ourselves in a shop or with a mentor we won’t have to waste their time quite as much with all the little things that they would get frustrated with telling us so they will have more energy and time to teach us the bigger things and they will be in a better mood to teach us those things as well. I love your channel it’s a great mix of technical information and this sort of thing thanks for taking the time to make videos I have nothing but respect for what you do it’s really an amazing thing.
Even if it's only "benign" neglect on training the new guys about what's expected of them. "Oh, I thought that *everyone* knows that!" only flies once or twice...
A big problem we have........if you bought the tool it's your's and you can feel free to lock it up in your box or cabinet. If the shop bought the tool, it's everyone's to use and you DO NOT have the right to lock it up in your box for only you to use, unless the shop bought one for everyone in the shop.
And when you buy used tools, it's not really costing you anything, you're just turning your money into tools that you can turn back into money when you don't need them anymore. It's only when you break or wear out the tool that you've really lost anything.
What ticks me off is many times I have seen people struggling with a job or project because there learning or just don't know...and yet around them I see others that do know and walk by sniggering and not stepping in with advise or a helping hand...mongrels I say...they just want to see that person having trouble to crash and burn and then laugh at them, some point in life everyone is a learner, me i learn everyday and always pass on my experience to anybody...everyone needs to teach...even small things...Adam is a great teacher along with many RUclipsrs...so blokes if you see someone struggling how about it....give them a hand.
mike i have a new kid in the shop im working in. I keep an eye on him and when I see him struggle, I usually give him a chance to try to figure it out (if he isnt about to colossally screw something up) first, before running over there. also he is starting to learn to ask earlier rather than struggle for a long time.
Hi Miles, sounds like your a good teacher....I'm talking about the Bullies and assholes that love to watch someone crash and burn then severely discipline them or take great joy in laughing and abusing them for the mistake...in my opinion a learner, apprentice etc needs to have confidence they can come to someone and ask for help...patience is a requirement of a good teacher, encouragement for a good job done lifts the spirits of people...hammering someone for having difficulties is atrocious behavior...the more a learner is harassed the less they will learn...they loose confidence and get very nervous, they get scared of the bully and this leads them to having trouble on focusing...give them a break...In our society there are many negative issues that people go through and you don't know what is happening to that person away from work...they could be dealing with a poor family environment etc...which makes a person very susceptible for things not going so good for them...and then a workshop bully destroys any confidence or stability left in them. There are people of course not suitable for the job at hand but destroying that person is a cowardly act...great teachers set a good example and are rewarded when the students rise above to become great teachers themselves...show some dignity when you are asked to take on an apprentice, take this seriously as it is an honour to teach....don't take take your frustrations out on people cos you didn't get a root the night before....just saying...rant over...cheers.
I've always been big on the get your own tools deal. When I was starting out, if I had to borrow a tool from someone, half the time I would hit the tool house on my lunch to try and get one. Another thing I do if I borrow something, I make absolutely certain that I put that tool directly into the owners hand when I return it, not just stick it back in his box. This is for 3 basic reasons; 1- So I know and they know that I returned it 2- Everybody has their own filing system and it's irritating if something isn't back in its designated place3- I make sure to thank them for letting me use what they shelled out their hard earned money for and trusted me with.
You're right on all counts! When I worked at International when the cheap guys would ask for a tool the whole crew would start yelling "Sears opens everyday at 8am"! After awhile they would catch on, we had a good bunch of guys.
Welding hoods are a very personal item to me, its like wearing someone else's underwear, it just doesn't happen. Thanks for another ten deadly sins :-D
Shadon HKW I had bought a rather expensive Lincoln Hood like the one in this video. It died on me and I replaced it with a harbor freight equivalent to get by until I could afford a good one again. So far I've used the cheap one twice as long as the Lincoln lasted, it's held up great, and is every bit as nice to use. I think it cost around $50 on sale
Same with princess auto up here in the frozen north. A big sign in the store "no sale is final until you're satisfied" which basically means a lifetime warranty on everything they sell I usually hate cheap tools and try to buy quality, but I'd never buy another high end welding helmet. Not when $300 gets you a year, and $50 is coming up on 3 now without any trouble.
Truth. Not to mention Chinese manufacturers don't have to obey patent law. They can just copy and sell what they want as American or european trademark law doesn't apply to them. I know a small indie motorcycle company that manufactured an original design for a kickstart transmission cover and assembly on newer EVO harley sportsters. Had it registered by the patent office, spent a load of money trademarking it and everything. Six months later a Chinese version pops up in a popular aftermarket company catalog for 1/2 price. The original builder couldn't do anything as it was made in china.Tried to take the reseller to court and was told to take a hike. The Chinese equivalent will ALWAYS be an inferior product. It may work but it will be made out of the cheapest shit available. I bet if AVE did actually do a tear down on a miller vs harbor freight it would become readily apparent at how crappy the quality of the harbor freight unit will be. Not to mention if it has the right percentage of blockage for the application you are using it for. No quicker way to mess up your eyes than using a lens to light for the application. Of course that doesn't apply to auto darken hoods but still.
For Consumables we had cards in them. For things like grinding wheels, the card was placed on the second to last wheel. If you take that wheel out, you WILL have that card in your hand. Then there was a bin to place those cards, at least twice a day somebody from the office took all of them and ordered the new items. For stuff in boxes like screws the cards where place before the last box, so if you open that box, again you had that card in your hand. For bigger stuff like lets say pipe connectors there was a card in the box and once you where below the BIG number printed on that card you also placed that in the bin. The Position of the card, like second to last, was chosen on how much that item gets consumed. For Diamond cutting wheels, or for big saw wheels for example it was taped to the last wheel. Because unless somebody fucks up they will last quite a while. Worked really well, except if the guys restocking forgot to place the card. Because people then thought "Oh ok somebody already placed that card in the bin" Was a long time ago when i still worked in a metal and wood working shop. I work in IT for like 10 years now, but i implemented that Kanban System there too. For cables, CDs, USB dongles and whatever. Or Keyboards. Which are consumables for some users anyway :)
djteac - Exactly - I like to put a "cut mark" at about the 1/3 point; when a consumable gets down to the cut mark, it's time to re-order. That way, if the item is on back-order, or there's a delay in shipment, you still have enough inventory left. Of course, each shop needs to determine where to put the cut mark; some shops may have to re-order when the inventory is reduced to half, while others may be fine with 1/4 left.
Two sides to keyboards... Good keyboards only get destroyed by heavy-handed "users" Cheap keyboards, like the Dell ones we have at work, can fall apart / have the markings wear off way too easily. My logitech keyboard here is ~4 years old and looks almost new... the one at my desk at work? Well, let's just say that if I were a better touch typist, it wouldn't matter so much, and I'm on my second one in 4 years...
Dave Ticehurst - Sorry, I wasn't referring to "cut" in the sense of cutting with a saw, but more like the "cut card" in the deck when you play blackjack at the casino. There's a plastic "cut card" (that has no markings), that's inserted into the deck after it's shuffled and put back into the shoe. When it's dealt, it's a signal to the dealer to shuffle after the current hand is dealt and played. Only in this case, it's a signal to re-order more inventory! HTH! Sometimes it has to be virtual; such as with spools of wire, cable, or hose - unwinding the entire spool just to put a mark on it, then rewinding it would be a real PITA, so when you get to the point where the wire/cable/hose is down to the spool, that's your virtual cut mark.
I have a new welding cabinet with fold out plastic bins and I put the information off the box right there in the bin, AND used a label machine to make labels with with the item description and part number. I'm talking about my grinding wheels.
I just recently started as a shop helper at a machine shop. Thank you ABom, for pointing out some things that I didn't really consider that might be common courtesy.
People not bringing my tools back and having to hunt them down is probably one of my biggest pet peeve. Recently my boss and his assistant went into my office (where i keep all my tools) to grab my cordless grease gun. They didn't close the door (second time in two weeks) and proceeded to leave the grease gun outside overnight. They had keys to my office because there were things like spare keys for equipment in there. People are too lazy to lock the building at night (think we'd have learned after all the chainsaws got stolen). So i make sure my stuff is in my office and the door is locked. I was absolutely pissed. I made sure there are no more reasons for them to go into my office and i changed the lock so i am the only one with a key.
One thing my dad always told me was if you borrow a tool return it in better shape then you received it if possible. For example I was using my grandmother's rake the other day and the handle was loose so I fix it before I put it back. It's the little things.
Adam, another great video, a subject near and dear to my heart. I will ring in with a little info that not everyone is privy too. When using a power tool one is often required to use an extension cord. Always always use the fattest and shortest extension cord you can lay your hands on. Here is why. Current is heat. Current is voltage /resistance. A thin extension has more resistance, this causes voltage at the end of it to drop, sometimes dramatically. As the voltage driving the motor goes down the current draw goes up. More current more heat. keep your extension cords as short as possible and as large as possible!
As a Journeyman Mechanic in both Automotive and Heavy-duty, I personally own close to $85,000 in tools, my rules on it is stay out of my box, and if you borrow a tool 3 times you better go buy one. my precision measuring or Torquing tools I will not lend out period. But that being said, I do lend out my tools because not everyone has every tool needed to do the job, but there is always that guy who has been in the business long enough that they should have most tools, but has the smallest box with just the basics in it and is constantly borrowing everyone tools because they don't want to spend their money on tools. those guys I will not lend anything to, A new apprentice I can understand not having them or the money to get them but someone who has 5 years or more not a chance.
Yes totally agree, the number of Tradesman who come around scrounging tool, and are out every night in clubs or bars, pissing up against the wall. Geoff Lewis, Wales, UK 🏴🏴🏴
Surgeons don't buy their own tools. Why should machinists ? Fancy starting a new machining job and turning up on the first morning and being asked "Well, where's your lathe?"
I really enjoyed this video. I am a 'new' hobby machinist, or really not a machinist as I don't have enough years left to achieve/earn that title. Machinists deserve the highest regard as it is a true "Profession" that one probably can not learn all the aspects of in a lifetime. One of the comments below really struck a chord with me. The comment about a 'new' guy struggling when others could pass along their knowledge. My background is professional aviation (retired) where not to pass along knowledge is a harbinger of disaster and costs real lives. The same is true of all endeavors; failing to pass along knowledge is a huge mistake that one may only be able to fully appreciate in the later years of a lifetime. Thank you for sharing your "knowledge" with all of us. I find it amazing how much knowledge is passes along with the RUclips video format. While I might not be able to achieve acceptable results the first time, at least I have seen it done and have the basics to put into practice to gain proficiency. Thanks again from Lake Havasu City, AZ.
I especially like that part about putting things back. Many years ago when ships were first being made of steel they were still under sail. The anchors were of a design that required a sledgehammer to let go. One day such a ship was in a storm off the California coast and in danger of running aground on the rocks. That day the Navy lost a ship and I don't know how many lives. When the order was given to let go the anchor the sledgehammer could not be found. Someone had used it and not put it back. The slogan used in the Navy ever since is, "A place for everything and everything in its place. Thanks for your advice. Good stuff.
Good points. You touched on a lot of proper behavior in the workplace. Glad to hear you point out things that bother most of us. The hardest part for me is trying to politely explain to the offending party on how to better behave.
Replace the empty gas bottle if you empty it, argon, oxygen, acetylene etc. Don't spit on the shop floor, nasty, if I have to lay down to work on something I don't want to lay in someone's nasty spit. Don't break a tool and put it back broken, especially if it's someone else's, tell them about it and replace it. Never ever take it upon yourself to borrow/use someone else's tools without their knowledge even if you're the business owner. Lock your shit up when you're not around.
>Don't spit on the shop floor Can I just add that people stop doing this in general? It's fucking gross and spreads TB. I will only ever ever spit if I've got a fly or something in my mouth. I don't get why people do it in public, because I know they aren't doing it on their carpet.
You brought up my worst memory of being in construction. I used to build precast concrete i-beams for bridges. Nothing, I mean nothing was worse than laying down under a form to install a hold down, covered in grease, and be staring at a big juicy puddle of chew spit 6" from my face. A distant second place worst memory of a couple asshats putting trash in the bed of my truck as a "prank".
As an occasional golfer, I have to add Don't spit your nasty sunflower shells (or chaw) on the greens! (I wouldn't believe it if I didn't still see it now and then.) Who wants to pick up a shell that's been in someone's mouth, to clear your putt line?
I’m not a machinist or construction worker, just a hobby mechanic who works on motorbikes. Love this channel. Adam you are so courteous to your viewers and kindly in manner. Love these pet hates, it’s all about treating others with respect. Hats off to you and your channel and your presentation style. Very informative mate. Learning a lot about a subject I know nothing about.
I'm in my office working and I found myself sitting here listening to your tips and saying out loud "yup", "that's right", "no $#!+", "absolutely" and a few other things.Good thing the door was closed.Bottom line: respect each other, respect your tools, respect yourself.Thanks for putting this together.John
Yeah, I got a bunch of pet peeves: 1) the guy you follow on the big drum lathe (swings 125" X 30' bed) will not shovel chips. So, when you get in to work, the First thing you have to do is shovel their chips. Then at the end of your shift, you have to shovel your own chips which also includes emptying the chip bins into the main hopper. 2) the guy you follow on the big drum lathe refills the cutting oil in the way oil can or the heavy medium oil can etc. They are too lazy to read what the oil can is marked especially when your machine uses five different types of oil. 3) When you are grooving a 30 ton drum, we use up to six different sized forged tooling. That same guy never sharpens the tool he just changed out especially on the double tool holder. So when you need that tool to go back in, you got to stop the grooving process and go sharpen that tool. You have a lot of ass time grooving drums, so there is no excuse not to sharpen it when you have your ass time! 4) Clean off the tool post with tools you are done with. Tool post trays get clogged with tooling, used inserts, wrenches, chips, along with the lathe controls. This same guy will not take the initiative to help you. You ask him, then you tell him, and then you have a meeting with the boss, and it still does not help. The tool post is up on the standing platform which is four steps up. You pull the tools off the tray and put them on the platform. When you are down on the floor, remove the tools from the platform and put them on the proper shelf they belong on. I could go on and on! Thanks for letting me get some steam off!
all round great advice once again Adam. I know from experience that you could make this into a weekly tips and tricks thing as there are so many that cross professions and life in general.
My biggest frustration is when a new guy is afraid or embarrassed to ask someone for help and damages or destroys something that others will have to repair. I have noticed that this problem often comes from both sides in that the more experienced person is rude or disrespectful to the new guy and doesn't want to help them along, possibly afraid that they will take their job or whatever and the new guy that comes in thinking that he or she already knows everything that there is to know because they got an expensive piece of paper. Performing anything professionally is almost an art form and it can only be achieved with experience so the senior employees are a valuable asset to help the new guy get there sooner. Communication and patience are the key. I used to tell my students that there is no such thing as a stupid question except for the one that has been asked countless times.
If you borrow a tool, return it. Don't use it to stir paint and leave it lying under an inch of hardening paint on the open can lid (because you didn't close the paint can, either.).
More precious advice from a man with a sterling reputation. Thank you again Adam, you gladden this OLD codger's heart and reinforce my faith in humankind.
Great video Adam, thanks. With the oxy-acetylene, when I did my trade we were taught that when we were finished with it to relieve the pressure on the diaphragm in the gauges. That is turn the bottle off, turn the torch tap on and vent the gas, close the torch tap and turn the diaphragm tap all the way out. Same thing for an inert gas bottle on MIG or TIG.
Number ten brings back memories. When I was a young auto mechanic at a dealership I borrowed a tool from an old guy to do a job, he handed me the tool and said "that's one". I didn't know what he mentioned by that until another mechanic told me that he gives you 2 chances to borrow the same tool. If you ask him a 3rd time your shit out of luck. His thought was you made money twice on his tool and that you should have your own by now. I never forgot that.
#3. When I was a kid, my old man watched me quickly destroy a hacksaw blade, and then myself. Then he reloaded the saw and told me to let the tool do the work, don't work the tool. That advice has served me well for over 40 years now!
I cannot believe these things aren't obvious to everyone. Just imagine how much more effektive we would be if we worked together instead of against each other. Thanks for enlightening people!
Adam, Love the videos!!! Very instructional, but in 30 years of welding/ fabrication every oxy-fuel safety sheet and instruction I have had or seen states that you turn off the fuel valve to extinguish the flame, then do the oxygen valve. I was always told it keeps the flame from backing up the hoses. With the flashback arrestors on the torch and regulators, it is probably a mute point.
Hello Adam, I saw your first 10 shop tips. And now the 2nd - 10 tips. I totally agree with you, I am a Joiner, 73 years old and worked in lots of Joinery shops and construction sites, I know exactly what you mean. An old saying by a tradesman was " The man who LENDS TOOLS is out ". Great video's Adam, please keep them coming best wishes. Geoff Lewis, Wales, UK. 🏴🏴🏴
An addition to the thread below on Oxy Acetylene Torches. I was taught not only to shut of the bottles but then bleed out the remaining gas in the hoses (acetylene first) then back off the regulators until the adjusting screw is free spinning. At least back then (45 years ago) there was concern about blowing out diaphragms when opening gas bottles with a regulator already set. Also, finger tip pressure is all that is needed on the torch valves, no whole hand cranking.
great series of videos! but one I think you’ve overlooked, and one I’ve learned directly from you, Adam, is organization. If you (generic) have your own shop, take the time to organize your own shop in a way that adds to your efficiency and ease of working environment. That said, if you are working in someone else’s shop, take the time to learn their shop organization and keep it that way...don’t re-organize THEIR shop to suit YOUR needs. I am constantly amazed & impressed at how you, Adam, have your shop setup. It is something I aspire to accomplish in my own. Keep up the great videos, Adam!
Great advice. I was always told by my coworkers " if you borrow it more than 2 times you need to get your own " . I firmly believe that if you use it , either the company or you should buy it.
Good information. A helpful tip for at-home hobbyist homeowners that I found out reading through my homeowner's insurance policy years ago is that they would not cover me having Acetylene on my property so when I set up my first cutting torch, I went with Oxy-Propane.
One more comment after reading others' comments about wasting time looking for tools in the Shop. At work (in our engine overhaul facility) we were doing a "Lean Event" to improve productivity & turn-around-time in a sub-Shop that worked on turbine & compressor assemblies for a particular type of jet engine. That Shop was about 100-feet by 150-feet with about a dozen employees. My team was following one worker and measuring how much he had to walk looking for the tools he needed to perform his work. He literally never had to leave the sub-Shop boundaries, but walked over a *quarter-mile* just looking for the tools he needed! Think of how much $$$$ & time was wasted by a highly-paid worker having to go look for the tools he needed to do his daily job! We eventually set up needed tooling at each work station so no-one would have to go looking for tooling and purchased/made copies of tooling that was needed by multiple workers so each person had the needed tool set at their work station.
I always appreciate your insight, Adam. I'll never work in a production shop, but still benefit from your experience and down to earth attitude. Keep doing what you're doing!
Come back to watch this again, as a regular reminder of good practice and what not to do. I'll never understand people who constantly have to borrow tools. To me, there's no better feeling than buying a new tool that you know you've needed for a while, or even one that you will only need occasionally but will last you forever and is indispensable on those few occasions. My friends sometimes ask "why do you have so much stuff?". Answer: because there's nothing better than always having the right tool for the job, even if it's a job you only do once every few years. Saves so much time, hassle, stress and potential for screwups.
Hi Adam, I think a BIG No-No, is when you do borrow a tool, break it, and don't offer to either have the tool fixed, and or replaced per the tool owners option. Just go with the common decency , you borrow a tool, you break it, you own it! Great video's, your helping so many.
Couldn't agree more with these, and those in the previous video. Case in point: I'm no professional machinist or welder or something, just an English teacher, but I have a knack for simple DIY or basic construction and home repairs. No formal training whatsoever. However, I do like to have my own tools, best I can afford for the purpose. My father-in-law living just over the fence is a technical university graduate and there is hardly a usable tool in his house. I hated it when he would come and borrow something. A few conversations later he no longer borrows, at least not from me. Cheers and keep up the great work!
Nice show Adam, nice how you bit your tounge and made your points without naming names or making anyone feel like crap and it's also nice to watch an honest man teach, reminded me of my Grandad and I know who taught you to be that way. Peace Sizzlean
Adam: This and the last video were great. At many points within the videos, I could hear my Dad's voice when he told me as a youngster how to behave properly in life. Using the same habits and consideration of others leads to one becoming a welcome member of the team. Thank you. Capt. Art
When I was coming up in a machine shop I was gifted my grandpa's 0-6" Starrett outside micrometers, a beat up Tumico caliper, and a B&S 12" hook scale that had a chipped corner but nothing else. The old codgers that worked there for 30+ years would loan you a tool only a couple of times before telling you to buy your own. Thankfully most of them took pity and loaned me extra things until I managed to get my own. They pointed me to pawn shops to find the things I needed and now I have multiples of most every tool I own. I remember the first new tool I bought (Starrett 6" scale) and have carried it in my pocket for years. Buying your own tools makes you appreciate them more.
I liked this one as much as the last one, Adam. I must have about a dozen drill chucks that go in a hanger on the wall, not including the ones that are in machines. Every one of them in the hanger has their chuck key in the chuck. So many of the keys are different, it's the best way to keep chucks and keys mated up. You caught me on one thing. I have a bunch of drill indexes, and today while I was working I noticed I have a couple of bits in one index upside-down. I spun those two and forgot to clean them up. Can't blame anyone but ME for that, since it's in my own shop! ;) Thanks for all the vids. I work alone in my little job shop, and it's nice to watch you, Tom, Tony and Keith after my work day. Kind of like visiting you other guy's shops and having kind of a conversation. Happy turning!
Being often referred to as a dinosaur these days here in the UK I find this refreshing. When I did my apprenticeship in the sixties these basic rules were driven home constantly. I've never forgotten.
The using the last consumable thing is an excellent point, but that works both ways. We have trouble running out of stuff at work mainly because the boss has a minor stroke anytime one of the guys tells him we're running low on something. Nobody wants to get chewed on for five minutes because the shop went through too many grinding wheels last month, so half the time nothing is said until the next guy needs one. Then the boss has a stroke because we're out of whatever, and nobody said anything. If you're the boss, you need to accept that even with honest employees who take care of their equipment, consumables are going to get used up and will need to be periodically replaced. If you don't want to be constantly running out of stuff, don't shoot the messenger when one of your employees tells you you need to order more.
I liked this video almost immediately and then as I watched it I tried to like it at least 3 more times, lol. Great video, if everyone in every shot worked like this shops would be incredible places to work!
good advice Adam. on the subject of tools also remember, flea markets and our favorite bidding site for a source of good tools for cheaper prices. I am a hobbyist machinist and that is how I have got all my tools to do the work
Great tip about keeping the key in the chuck. One of my pet peeves is rolls of box tape. I worked at a place where we used a lot of box tape and it drove me mad that co workers would not turn a little corner of tape over so that it was easy to find the end. Great tips and great video, thanks Adam!
Adam, Good advice as always. My dad insisted that no hammering be done on the surface plate. Only set p/measurements and the like. No hammering out of pins or other forms of thumping on the granite. Regards, Eric
That last one is a huge peeve of mine. I don't mind letting someone borrow a tool, especially a younger mechanic thats just starting out, but, if you have to borrow it more then twice its time to look at buying your own. And make sure you bring it back like you got it and clean. And if you do damage it somehow, please own it and make it right. I know it sucks having to replace a expensive tool, but its the right thing to do.
My standing rule for loaning Tools was taught to me by my dad . After three times of loaning the same Tool to the same Man he was expected to buy he's own . I started working with my dad when I was eleven years old in he's Machine shop and I'm 58 now and I still stand by this rule . Old Tool Maker JT Hay Fort Worth Texas
Don't wait 'til the last one is being used. Notify someone when you are taking the next to last consumable item. Take the box to the expediter so he knows exactly what you need. Everything you have talked about is known as "COMMON Courtesy." I love that American Flag hanging on the wall over your left shoulder!!! I once say a nice Mercedes with vanity plates that said "Save Up". He said his kids bought it for him, because whenever they wanted something, that's what he would tell them. Great Video!
Exactly on point. You can borrow my tools as long as you keep buying your own. At my work, that means I say no to a lot of people. Listening to this list it struck me funny that most times, the men at my work do everything the exact opposite.
Suggestion -- if you've borrowed a particular tool over and over, consider if maybe you have even put more wear on it that its owner. If that's a possibility, then when you can finally afford your own, if you manage to buy the same exact tool, offer to trade them the new one in thanks. Some would accept and some would refuse, but either way you both feel good.
Adam, I worked in a factory that manufactured hydraulic pumps several years back, and we had a guy on third shift very frequently set up one of the few "common" machines (i.e., used by all departments at some point, always kept ready) then go take a nap in the john. One night, in the heat of summer, another gent, aware of this other person's habits, took a mop bucket of not-so-freshly used water, and dumped it over the wall of the stall. When management heard what had happened, the guy who dumped the water was still employed, but the other couldn't help but let slip he was asleep in the stall when he was rudely awoken by being soaked in nasty water. They made him clean his toolbox out before he could leave, and found between 15 and 20 THOUSAND dollars worth of precision tools, both company owned and people's personal tools. It was a nice night for those who had so much go missing, and he got a police record, because some of the tools belonged to people who had already left the company, but missing/stolen tool reports were on file. Thankfully all tools were returned to their respective owners afterwards.
Adam another great 10. I would add don't put back tools that are broken or dull in indexes or common tool boxes. If you can't fix it yourself, tag it so the next guy doesn't grab a dull bit out of the index.
One of my former employees knew the value of tool and equipment care. He was the one who always put things away, kept them clean, and reported any problem. He retired several years ago and passed away earlier this year. He was the best employee, and a great guy. I give my right arm, no kidding, to have him back again.
Thanks for covering these really important shop etiquette ..really, just common sense, things. After a head injury in the military I need order and quiet for concentration. For that reason I’ve gotten a bit OCD and short tempered as a weird coping mechanism. If everyone follows the rules and respects the other workers (and the shop owner🤯) life goes just fine. I hate tardiness, noise, shouting and BS-ing, smoke and poor house keeping...but other then that I’m easy going!
Hey Adam - There is a very very great 'something' about your videos. It's an honest sincerity and unpretentiousness which are valid indicators of the calibre of you integrity. This I think is why I appreciate your videos so much. How about a 5 minute chat about your introduction to machining and your father's influence upon your attitude - coz' I'd love to know. Sincere regards from Box Hill, Melbourne, Australia. PS today I upgraded my (home) 14 inch lathe to a 4 foot lathe but my eyes (and wallet) are looking for bigger things. take care
As some of your viewers remarked my father taught me that when you ask to borrow another man possession always return them in better shape than what you recieved it in. I passed this onto my nephews. A couple years ago my nephew asked to borrow my Dodge 3500, 4wd diesel with a full size camper. The truck was returned with a full tank, washed. The camper's propane tanks were filled up, waste tanks empty and the entire camper spotless inside and out. They had driven to Yosemite and put close to 2k on it. Upon returning he immediately pointed out a scratch where he had backed into a branch in a campground and had already scheduled to have it fixed at a autobody shop. He had to point it out and he was so embarrassed and apologetic. I told him don't worry about it. Some time later my son-in-law asked to just borrow the truck as he was helping a friend to move. I get the truck back two days late, empty tank (that was $90!), garbage, wrappers, and pop spilled all over everything, and umpteen new scratches on the rear fenders. Two years later he asked to borrow the ttuck again. My answer was brief, NO! Last time you borrowed the Dodge you returned it filthy inside and out, the tank empty, and several new scratches on the rear fenders, so No, you may not borrow it now or in the future. You'll have to go rent one. Needless to say, he's never asked to borrow anything else. Thank you father!
my bugbear of a workplace, cell phones, people who have their phones making noises for every notification, and they stop work to play with the phone, they are also always avoiding work by typing into their phone or such
I really enjoy your shop etiquette shows! I hope our apprentice will learn from what you are saying! I started a few years ago working with metal instead of wood. Had a tool box that would not fit a framing square. So, I put it behind my box & It came up missing! Asked around & a guy said it wasn't locked up so he locked it up for me. I almost lost my cool. I had a hard time trying to figure out if he was being nice or trying to steal! Hasn't happened since. Lesson to learn is do not touch what is not yours! (Is it not the golden rule?)
One of the sayings that I will always remember " If you can't do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to do it again" I have always tried to keep to that rule, and hasn't let me down yet!!!! Thank you again, as last time, for the very useful information. Life is kind of funny. When I was working in my dads workshop, he would always ask me to put things back. The only problem is that when he needed something that I hadn't put back, I new right where it was, without looking for where it should have been. I have a friend, that when I was at his house, and we needed to work on a project, and needed a tool, he new right where he last used it, and more then not is was left on the ground outside in the weather, and all rusty. We had to look sometimes quite a while, around the yard to find some of them. Socket wrenches were the worst. I didn't work with him very much. Thanks again, and have a good day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A good rule to remember is "if you Kill it then you Refill it" easy as that. run that cutting oil out, refill it. Use the last grinding disk tell the proper person to get more ordered.
Same here plus we had 55 gallon drums of hydraulic fluid, motor oil, antifreeze on rolling carts with air powered pumps that guys would leave empty. Those were a pain to change out. Here's another one. How many times have you been working under a flat bed truck and have some idiot come up and hit the flat bed with a hammer. that will make you sit up and gouge your forehead into the frame.
I've lost track of how many shops & offices I've been in where they have a sign to remind people to make a fresh pot of coffee when they pour the last cup... And, let's not even get into restroom cleanliness... :(
Quite the informative video on general shop etiquette.. I'd like to add on to how one should go about using a grinder. For tool's sakes, don't suffocate the air vents with your hands, especially the intakes at or near the cord end! I've seen quite a few people take a new or new-ish, perfectly working grinder, grab n switch it on with one hand, and grip the cord end with the other for leverage and totally covering the intake vents, with and without gloves, and do some hardcore grinding or cutting task for all of 3-5 minutes, only for the poor thing to smoke and burn out before finishing the job. And of course, damage like that is guaranteed to be beyond fixing, unless one fancied the cost of a replacement rotor and maybe brushes, plus shipping and repair labor fees. Lost count of how many grinders i've had to fix just from this issue alone, aside from the usual suspects like worn out brushes, commutators, melted brush holders, et cetera..
Grandfather taught me when you borrow a tool your become obligated to return it in better condition than you received it. Period. Hacksaw gets a new blade, chisel is returned sharp, gage returned cleaned, oiled, and maybe in a felt sleeve...the car gets a topped up tank of gas... etc. Just passed this along to a young student 10, he thanked me for the advice on how professional men do things. Seems your continuing the tradition. Thanks.
Your grandfather was a great man. My father passed on the same advice to me a a young age.
I love doing that on the rare occasion I borrow something. A concrete mixer; greased , realigned, and motor reconditioned for them. A car trailer re welded where it was broken, adding skills/ services they don't have. Make it that they would want you to borrow something.
I agree with the sentiment, however, make sure you know what you're doing. A lot of people are very particular about what gas they put in their vehicle and some require a higher grade than others. There's some tools I have which I care for in a very particular way and I would be annoyed if someone were to clean them or what have you because they thought they were being helpful.
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Good stories. Here's one - borrow someone's cast iron skillet, then return it scrubbed with soap and brillo pads. (They will never loan you one of those again!)
Worked in a shop once among a thief. He was stealing everybody's tools. We were told, under no circumstances will you ever touch another guy's tools. One guy heated up a tool with a torch and then stepped away out of sight. It didn't take long before a guy screamed and the tool hit the floor. They opened his car trunk and there were all the stolen tools.
i had a boss long ago that would eat all the candy we had in a jar by the coffee maker. one of the guys put calf starter (looks pretty good if you squint enough) in the jar and the son of a gun ate it all.
People that steal are a low form of life and should be dealt with . That is especially true for the IRS :)
It’s why some companies make “job Site” tool lines. Those are used where tools might be stolen, or broken too easily.
John Tate at my current work we got a vise on a bench for welding so a dumb ass unbolted the vise and took it off the bench and walked out the door with it so we got a new vise and department that got the new vise welded the vise to the table
Wow thats nuts
I was taught at a very young age that if you take care of your tools , your tools will take care of you . I'm 71 years old and I'm still using my Father's , Grandfather's , and Great Grandfather's tools .
Nothing worse than I guy who won't buy his own tools but can afford a pack of smokes every day and/or new tattoos.
Heard that!
So true.
I mean, if you can't afford an expensive tool right away, thats fine.
But if i see you getting a new 300bucks tattoo every month, instead of getting that piece of gear that you need so much, i will start to get pissed.
I work with this guy. I finally got to the point I quit loaning him my tools
Well put.
They're like a puppy. they need an occasional harsh rebuke to figure out what's what.
Clean up duties has been a pet peeve of mine, forever.
When I stated as a millwright helper/trainee over 40 yrs ago, I was working in a shop where at some point it was decided that it was the MW helpers job to clean the shop at the end of the shift. There were 4 trades that shared that shop. An electrician, a welder/iron-worker. a pipe-fitter and the MW and I, the others had no helpers.
On my first day I was told that it was my job to clean the whole shop regardless of whose mess was left behind. When I questioned the supervisor about that, he said that's the way it's always been, so just DO IT! So I did , i swept everything up and put it in a bag.
The next day I went in a little early and sorted thru the bag and separated the junk by trade.The welders rod stubs and slag , the electricians' knockout plugs and bits of wire and sheathing, a couple of the PFs' cutoffs , ETC.
You can imagine the looks on their faces when they found their individual junk in their lunch pails at supper time.When asked what the meaning of it was, I didn't lie, I told them that stuff must have had some personal meaning to them or they would have thrown it in the trash.
I NEVER had to clean up any of their junk again, They just never left any around. lol
Good way to make a point, and glad to hear people change there tunes.
I’m an 18 year old kid starting to get into this world of machining and fabricating and this sort of video is super helpful to me and I am guessing everyone else in a similar place with knowing the little stuff so when we find ourselves in a shop or with a mentor we won’t have to waste their time quite as much with all the little things that they would get frustrated with telling us so they will have more energy and time to teach us the bigger things and they will be in a better mood to teach us those things as well. I love your channel it’s a great mix of technical information and this sort of thing thanks for taking the time to make videos I have nothing but respect for what you do it’s really an amazing thing.
Fisher Brodie at 18 you are not a kid . You are an adult. I am 67 and im still learning from blokes like Adam . Take notice, he makes good sense
There's nothing worse than wasting time looking for something that should've been in your hands 15 minutes ago, these are great Adam
Something we have struggle with at work, but it's gotten much better now that we all talk about it in our meetings.
Even if it's only "benign" neglect on training the new guys about what's expected of them.
"Oh, I thought that *everyone* knows that!" only flies once or twice...
A big problem we have........if you bought the tool it's your's and you can feel free to lock it up in your box or cabinet. If the shop bought the tool, it's everyone's to use and you DO NOT have the right to lock it up in your box for only you to use, unless the shop bought one for everyone in the shop.
Seems like the same people that do that are always saying "their tools" (aka the shop's tools) are always being stolen (aka they misplaced them).
when I started 30 years ago if I had to borrow something twice, I would buy my own
Good rule to live by. I have many tools I don't use often, but they are mine and are there when I DO need them.
If it's something not commonly used and you gotta borrow it that's cool, same if yours broke but everyone hates mr borrow everything
And when you buy used tools, it's not really costing you anything, you're just turning your money into tools that you can turn back into money when you don't need them anymore. It's only when you break or wear out the tool that you've really lost anything.
Standard rule , borrow it twice you should own it!!
Yes, most definitely. You know, the old rule of "if you haven't used in 6 months ... throw it out" (or whatever) DOESN'T APPLY TO TOOLS!
Holy sh*t! That chuck key tip is awesome! lol. Never thought of it before and it's brilliant. That's a life changer.
What ticks me off is many times I have seen people struggling with a job or project because there learning or just don't know...and yet around them I see others that do know and walk by sniggering and not stepping in with advise or a helping hand...mongrels I say...they just want to see that person having trouble to crash and burn and then laugh at them, some point in life everyone is a learner, me i learn everyday and always pass on my experience to anybody...everyone needs to teach...even small things...Adam is a great teacher along with many RUclipsrs...so blokes if you see someone struggling how about it....give them a hand.
I agree, and share my knowledge and experience to those that appreciate it and don't act like an idiot. Some new guys have the wrong attitude though.
I agree Adam...learning is a 2 way street....you have to be gracious in excepting help...Cheers.
mike i have a new kid in the shop im working in. I keep an eye on him and when I see him struggle, I usually give him a chance to try to figure it out (if he isnt about to colossally screw something up) first, before running over there. also he is starting to learn to ask earlier rather than struggle for a long time.
Hi Miles, sounds like your a good teacher....I'm talking about the Bullies and assholes that love to watch someone crash and burn then severely discipline them or take great joy in laughing and abusing them for the mistake...in my opinion a learner, apprentice etc needs to have confidence they can come to someone and ask for help...patience is a requirement of a good teacher, encouragement for a good job done lifts the spirits of people...hammering someone for having difficulties is atrocious behavior...the more a learner is harassed the less they will learn...they loose confidence and get very nervous, they get scared of the bully and this leads them to having trouble on focusing...give them a break...In our society there are many negative issues that people go through and you don't know what is happening to that person away from work...they could be dealing with a poor family environment etc...which makes a person very susceptible for things not going so good for them...and then a workshop bully destroys any confidence or stability left in them.
There are people of course not suitable for the job at hand but destroying that person is a cowardly act...great teachers set a good example and are rewarded when the students rise above to become great teachers themselves...show some dignity when you are asked to take on an apprentice, take this seriously as it is an honour to teach....don't take take your frustrations out on people cos you didn't get a root the night before....just saying...rant over...cheers.
I've always been big on the get your own tools deal. When I was starting out, if I had to borrow a tool from someone, half the time I would hit the tool house on my lunch to try and get one. Another thing I do if I borrow something, I make absolutely certain that I put that tool directly into the owners hand when I return it, not just stick it back in his box. This is for 3 basic reasons;
1- So I know and they know that I returned it 2- Everybody has their own filing system and it's irritating if something isn't back in its designated place3- I make sure to thank them for letting me use what they shelled out their hard earned money for and trusted me with.
You're right on all counts! When I worked at International when the cheap guys would ask for a tool the whole crew would start yelling "Sears opens everyday at 8am"! After awhile they would catch on, we had a good bunch of guys.
Welding hoods are a very personal item to me, its like wearing someone else's underwear, it just doesn't happen. Thanks for another ten deadly sins :-D
Shadon HKW I had bought a rather expensive Lincoln Hood like the one in this video. It died on me and I replaced it with a harbor freight equivalent to get by until I could afford a good one again. So far I've used the cheap one twice as long as the Lincoln lasted, it's held up great, and is every bit as nice to use. I think it cost around $50 on sale
even more so when it eventually does break, I can take it back at get a new one
Same with princess auto up here in the frozen north. A big sign in the store "no sale is final until you're satisfied" which basically means a lifetime warranty on everything they sell
I usually hate cheap tools and try to buy quality, but I'd never buy another high end welding helmet. Not when $300 gets you a year, and $50 is coming up on 3 now without any trouble.
Truth. Not to mention Chinese manufacturers don't have to obey patent law. They can just copy and sell what they want as American or european trademark law doesn't apply to them. I know a small indie motorcycle company that manufactured an original design for a kickstart transmission cover and assembly on newer EVO harley sportsters. Had it registered by the patent office, spent a load of money trademarking it and everything. Six months later a Chinese version pops up in a popular aftermarket company catalog for 1/2 price. The original builder couldn't do anything as it was made in china.Tried to take the reseller to court and was told to take a hike. The Chinese equivalent will ALWAYS be an inferior product. It may work but it will be made out of the cheapest shit available. I bet if AVE did actually do a tear down on a miller vs harbor freight it would become readily apparent at how crappy the quality of the harbor freight unit will be. Not to mention if it has the right percentage of blockage for the application you are using it for. No quicker way to mess up your eyes than using a lens to light for the application. Of course that doesn't apply to auto darken hoods but still.
Shadon HKW John
For Consumables we had cards in them. For things like grinding wheels, the card was placed on the second to last wheel. If you take that wheel out, you WILL have that card in your hand.
Then there was a bin to place those cards, at least twice a day somebody from the office took all of them and ordered the new items.
For stuff in boxes like screws the cards where place before the last box, so if you open that box, again you had that card in your hand.
For bigger stuff like lets say pipe connectors there was a card in the box and once you where below the BIG number printed on that card you also placed that in the bin.
The Position of the card, like second to last, was chosen on how much that item gets consumed.
For Diamond cutting wheels, or for big saw wheels for example it was taped to the last wheel. Because unless somebody fucks up they will last quite a while.
Worked really well, except if the guys restocking forgot to place the card. Because people then thought "Oh ok somebody already placed that card in the bin"
Was a long time ago when i still worked in a metal and wood working shop.
I work in IT for like 10 years now, but i implemented that Kanban System there too.
For cables, CDs, USB dongles and whatever. Or Keyboards. Which are consumables for some users anyway :)
djteac - Exactly - I like to put a "cut mark" at about the 1/3 point; when a consumable gets down to the cut mark, it's time to re-order. That way, if the item is on back-order, or there's a delay in shipment, you still have enough inventory left. Of course, each shop needs to determine where to put the cut mark; some shops may have to re-order when the inventory is reduced to half, while others may be fine with 1/4 left.
Two sides to keyboards...
Good keyboards only get destroyed by heavy-handed "users"
Cheap keyboards, like the Dell ones we have at work, can fall apart / have the markings wear off way too easily.
My logitech keyboard here is ~4 years old and looks almost new... the one at my desk at work? Well, let's just say that if I were a better touch typist, it wouldn't matter so much, and I'm on my second one in 4 years...
Dave Ticehurst - Sorry, I wasn't referring to "cut" in the sense of cutting with a saw, but more like the "cut card" in the deck when you play blackjack at the casino. There's a plastic "cut card" (that has no markings), that's inserted into the deck after it's shuffled and put back into the shoe. When it's dealt, it's a signal to the dealer to shuffle after the current hand is dealt and played. Only in this case, it's a signal to re-order more inventory! HTH! Sometimes it has to be virtual; such as with spools of wire, cable, or hose - unwinding the entire spool just to put a mark on it, then rewinding it would be a real PITA, so when you get to the point where the wire/cable/hose is down to the spool, that's your virtual cut mark.
I have a new welding cabinet with fold out plastic bins and I put the information off the box right there in the bin, AND used a label machine to make labels with with the item description and part number. I'm talking about my grinding wheels.
djteac
That's a good system there!
I just recently started as a shop helper at a machine shop. Thank you ABom, for pointing out some things that I didn't really consider that might be common courtesy.
Common courtesy. Respect and manners cost nothing. But are always appreciated...
People not bringing my tools back and having to hunt them down is probably one of my biggest pet peeve. Recently my boss and his assistant went into my office (where i keep all my tools) to grab my cordless grease gun. They didn't close the door (second time in two weeks) and proceeded to leave the grease gun outside overnight. They had keys to my office because there were things like spare keys for equipment in there. People are too lazy to lock the building at night (think we'd have learned after all the chainsaws got stolen). So i make sure my stuff is in my office and the door is locked. I was absolutely pissed. I made sure there are no more reasons for them to go into my office and i changed the lock so i am the only one with a key.
One thing my dad always told me was if you borrow a tool return it in better shape then you received it if possible. For example I was using my grandmother's rake the other day and the handle was loose so I fix it before I put it back. It's the little things.
But also dont "fix" something you arent 100% sure you know how to improve
105% true
Adam, another great video, a subject near and dear to my heart. I will ring in with a little info that not everyone is privy too. When using a power tool one is often required to use an extension cord. Always always use the fattest and shortest extension cord you can lay your hands on. Here is why. Current is heat. Current is voltage /resistance. A thin extension has more resistance, this causes voltage at the end of it to drop, sometimes dramatically. As the voltage driving the motor goes down the current draw goes up. More current more heat. keep your extension cords as short as possible and as large as possible!
Welder/Fabricator here. All these tips are golden. Shop apprentices take note!
As a Journeyman Mechanic in both Automotive and Heavy-duty, I personally own close to $85,000 in tools, my rules on it is stay out of my box, and if you borrow a tool 3 times you better go buy one. my precision measuring or Torquing tools I will not lend out period. But that being said, I do lend out my tools because not everyone has every tool needed to do the job, but there is always that guy who has been in the business long enough that they should have most tools, but has the smallest box with just the basics in it and is constantly borrowing everyone tools because they don't want to spend their money on tools. those guys I will not lend anything to, A new apprentice I can understand not having them or the money to get them but someone who has 5 years or more not a chance.
Yes totally agree, the number of Tradesman who come around scrounging tool, and are out every night in clubs or bars, pissing up against the wall. Geoff Lewis, Wales, UK 🏴🏴🏴
Surgeons don't buy their own tools. Why should machinists ?
Fancy starting a new machining job and turning up on the first morning and being asked "Well, where's your lathe?"
I really enjoyed this video. I am a 'new' hobby machinist, or really not a machinist as I don't have enough years left to achieve/earn that title. Machinists deserve the highest regard as it is a true "Profession" that one probably can not learn all the aspects of in a lifetime. One of the comments below really struck a chord with me. The comment about a 'new' guy struggling when others could pass along their knowledge. My background is professional aviation (retired) where not to pass along knowledge is a harbinger of disaster and costs real lives. The same is true of all endeavors; failing to pass along knowledge is a huge mistake that one may only be able to fully appreciate in the later years of a lifetime. Thank you for sharing your "knowledge" with all of us. I find it amazing how much knowledge is passes along with the RUclips video format. While I might not be able to achieve acceptable results the first time, at least I have seen it done and have the basics to put into practice to gain proficiency. Thanks again from Lake Havasu City, AZ.
I especially like that part about putting things back. Many years ago when ships were first being made of steel they were still under sail. The anchors were of a design that required a sledgehammer to let go. One day such a ship was in a storm off the California coast and in danger of running aground on the rocks. That day the Navy lost a ship and I don't know how many lives. When the order was given to let go the anchor the sledgehammer could not be found. Someone had used it and not put it back. The slogan used in the Navy ever since is, "A place for everything and everything in its place. Thanks for your advice. Good stuff.
Good points. You touched on a lot of proper behavior in the workplace. Glad to hear you point out things that bother most of us. The hardest part for me is trying to politely explain to the offending party on how to better behave.
Replace the empty gas bottle if you empty it, argon, oxygen, acetylene etc. Don't spit on the shop floor, nasty, if I have to lay down to work on something I don't want to lay in someone's nasty spit. Don't break a tool and put it back broken, especially if it's someone else's, tell them about it and replace it. Never ever take it upon yourself to borrow/use someone else's tools without their knowledge even if you're the business owner. Lock your shit up when you're not around.
"barrowing" someones stuff, without their permission is just plain stealing... whether or not you gave it back, expect them to be pissed.
>Don't spit on the shop floor
Can I just add that people stop doing this in general? It's fucking gross and spreads TB. I will only ever ever spit if I've got a fly or something in my mouth.
I don't get why people do it in public, because I know they aren't doing it on their carpet.
Nelson Mandela I understand if someone got a face full of oil or something else nasty but just doing it because, is plain NASTY!
You brought up my worst memory of being in construction. I used to build precast concrete i-beams for bridges. Nothing, I mean nothing was worse than laying down under a form to install a hold down, covered in grease, and be staring at a big juicy puddle of chew spit 6" from my face.
A distant second place worst memory of a couple asshats putting trash in the bed of my truck as a "prank".
As an occasional golfer, I have to add Don't spit your nasty sunflower shells (or chaw) on the greens! (I wouldn't believe it if I didn't still see it now and then.) Who wants to pick up a shell that's been in someone's mouth, to clear your putt line?
I’m not a machinist or construction worker, just a hobby mechanic who works on motorbikes. Love this channel. Adam you are so courteous to your viewers and kindly in manner. Love these pet hates, it’s all about treating others with respect. Hats off to you and your channel and your presentation style. Very informative mate. Learning a lot about a subject I know nothing about.
I'm in my office working and I found myself sitting here listening to your tips and saying out loud "yup", "that's right", "no $#!+", "absolutely" and a few other things.Good thing the door was closed.Bottom line: respect each other, respect your tools, respect yourself.Thanks for putting this together.John
Yeah, I got a bunch of pet peeves:
1) the guy you follow on the big drum lathe (swings 125" X 30' bed) will not shovel chips. So, when you get in to work, the First thing you have to do is shovel their chips. Then at the end of your shift, you have to shovel your own chips which also includes emptying the chip bins into the main hopper.
2) the guy you follow on the big drum lathe refills the cutting oil in the way oil can or the heavy medium oil can etc. They are too lazy to read what the oil can is marked especially when your machine uses five different types of oil.
3) When you are grooving a 30 ton drum, we use up to six different sized forged tooling. That same guy never sharpens the tool he just changed out especially on the double tool holder. So when you need that tool to go back in, you got to stop the grooving process and go sharpen that tool. You have a lot of ass time grooving drums, so there is no excuse not to sharpen it when you have your ass time!
4) Clean off the tool post with tools you are done with. Tool post trays get clogged with tooling, used inserts, wrenches, chips, along with the lathe controls. This same guy will not take the initiative to help you. You ask him, then you tell him, and then you have a meeting with the boss, and it still does not help. The tool post is up on the standing platform which is four steps up. You pull the tools off the tray and put them on the platform. When you are down on the floor, remove the tools from the platform and put them on the proper shelf they belong on.
I could go on and on! Thanks for letting me get some steam off!
Mmmmm chipssss...
Tom Broome why dont you just bash the bastard. If you get the arse no big deal. Your skills have to be in demand somewhere else.
all round great advice once again Adam. I know from experience that you could make this into a weekly tips and tricks thing as there are so many that cross professions and life in general.
I only spent a short time slinging wrenches as a millwrong, but all of this rings so true. Thanks Adam for making this video.
My biggest frustration is when a new guy is afraid or embarrassed to ask someone for help and damages or destroys something that others will have to repair. I have noticed that this problem often comes from both sides in that the more experienced person is rude or disrespectful to the new guy and doesn't want to help them along, possibly afraid that they will take their job or whatever and the new guy that comes in thinking that he or she already knows everything that there is to know because they got an expensive piece of paper. Performing anything professionally is almost an art form and it can only be achieved with experience so the senior employees are a valuable asset to help the new guy get there sooner. Communication and patience are the key. I used to tell my students that there is no such thing as a stupid question except for the one that has been asked countless times.
If you borrow a tool, return it. Don't use it to stir paint and leave it lying under an inch of hardening paint on the open can lid (because you didn't close the paint can, either.).
More precious advice from a man with a sterling reputation. Thank you again Adam, you gladden this OLD codger's heart and reinforce my faith in humankind.
Great video Adam, thanks. With the oxy-acetylene, when I did my trade we were taught that when we were finished with it to relieve the pressure on the diaphragm in the gauges. That is turn the bottle off, turn the torch tap on and vent the gas, close the torch tap and turn the diaphragm tap all the way out. Same thing for an inert gas bottle on MIG or TIG.
Number ten brings back memories. When I was a young auto mechanic at a dealership I borrowed a tool from an old guy to do a job, he handed me the tool and said "that's one". I didn't know what he mentioned by that until another mechanic told me that he gives you 2 chances to borrow the same tool. If you ask him a 3rd time your shit out of luck. His thought was you made money twice on his tool and that you should have your own by now. I never forgot that.
I sincerely wish management would show these 2 videos to themselves and the greenhorns at my work.
Love it
#3. When I was a kid, my old man watched me quickly destroy a hacksaw blade, and then myself. Then he reloaded the saw and told me to let the tool do the work, don't work the tool. That advice has served me well for over 40 years now!
I cannot tell you how much I cringe when I start to hear the squealing of someone forcing a machine or a tool.
Another great video , well said everything you said about proper shop do’s and don’t s, really enjoyed it!
Thank you ! John
Great advice, thank you for sharing. Particularly your final comments on tool borrowing, that is valuable advice. Keep up the great videos!
I cannot believe these things aren't obvious to everyone. Just imagine how much more effektive we would be if we worked together instead of against each other. Thanks for enlightening people!
Adam, Love the videos!!! Very instructional, but in 30 years of welding/ fabrication every oxy-fuel safety sheet and instruction I have had or seen states that you turn off the fuel valve to extinguish the flame, then do the oxygen valve. I was always told it keeps the flame from backing up the hoses. With the flashback arrestors on the torch and regulators, it is probably a mute point.
Hello Adam, I saw your first 10 shop tips. And now the 2nd - 10 tips. I totally agree with you, I am a Joiner, 73 years old and worked in lots of Joinery shops and construction sites, I know exactly what you mean. An old saying by a tradesman was " The man who LENDS TOOLS is out ". Great video's Adam, please keep them coming best wishes. Geoff Lewis, Wales, UK. 🏴🏴🏴
An addition to the thread below on Oxy Acetylene Torches. I was taught not only to shut of the bottles but then bleed out the remaining gas in the hoses (acetylene first) then back off the regulators until the adjusting screw is free spinning. At least back then (45 years ago) there was concern about blowing out diaphragms when opening gas bottles with a regulator already set.
Also, finger tip pressure is all that is needed on the torch valves, no whole hand cranking.
Thanks again Adam. Loved visiting with your family on Moms day
great series of videos! but one I think you’ve overlooked, and one I’ve learned directly from you, Adam, is organization.
If you (generic) have your own shop, take the time to organize your own shop in a way that adds to your efficiency and ease of working environment. That said, if you are working in someone else’s shop, take the time to learn their shop organization and keep it that way...don’t re-organize THEIR shop to suit YOUR needs.
I am constantly amazed & impressed at how you, Adam, have your shop setup. It is something I aspire to accomplish in my own.
Keep up the great videos, Adam!
Great advice. I was always told by my coworkers " if you borrow it more than 2 times you need to get your own " . I firmly believe that if you use it , either the company or you should buy it.
Good information. A helpful tip for at-home hobbyist homeowners that I found out reading through my homeowner's insurance policy years ago is that they would not cover me having Acetylene on my property so when I set up my first cutting torch, I went with Oxy-Propane.
All good advice👊🏼👊🏼 thank you
Thanks for stopping by Jimmy!!
I love these videos ABOM!! These videos and comment are definitely helping me to great extent ...
KEEP EM COMING ....
One more comment after reading others' comments about wasting time looking for tools in the Shop. At work (in our engine overhaul facility) we were doing a "Lean Event" to improve productivity & turn-around-time in a sub-Shop that worked on turbine & compressor assemblies for a particular type of jet engine. That Shop was about 100-feet by 150-feet with about a dozen employees. My team was following one worker and measuring how much he had to walk looking for the tools he needed to perform his work. He literally never had to leave the sub-Shop boundaries, but walked over a *quarter-mile* just looking for the tools he needed! Think of how much $$$$ & time was wasted by a highly-paid worker having to go look for the tools he needed to do his daily job! We eventually set up needed tooling at each work station so no-one would have to go looking for tooling and purchased/made copies of tooling that was needed by multiple workers so each person had the needed tool set at their work station.
I always appreciate your insight, Adam. I'll never work in a production shop, but still benefit from your experience and down to earth attitude. Keep doing what you're doing!
Come back to watch this again, as a regular reminder of good practice and what not to do.
I'll never understand people who constantly have to borrow tools. To me, there's no better feeling than buying a new tool that you know you've needed for a while, or even one that you will only need occasionally but will last you forever and is indispensable on those few occasions. My friends sometimes ask "why do you have so much stuff?". Answer: because there's nothing better than always having the right tool for the job, even if it's a job you only do once every few years. Saves so much time, hassle, stress and potential for screwups.
excellent suggestions and tips Adam , thank you for one more very useful video !
Even better than the first. You are a valuable resource and your sharing does more than you can ever imagine. Thanks
Hi Adam, I think a BIG No-No, is when you do borrow a tool, break it, and don't offer to either have the tool fixed, and or replaced per the tool owners option. Just go with the common decency , you borrow a tool, you break it, you own it!
Great video's, your helping so many.
Couldn't agree more with these, and those in the previous video. Case in point: I'm no professional machinist or welder or something, just an English teacher, but I have a knack for simple DIY or basic construction and home repairs. No formal training whatsoever. However, I do like to have my own tools, best I can afford for the purpose. My father-in-law living just over the fence is a technical university graduate and there is hardly a usable tool in his house. I hated it when he would come and borrow something. A few conversations later he no longer borrows, at least not from me. Cheers and keep up the great work!
Nice video, Adam, I wish there were more guys like you.
Nice show Adam, nice how you bit your tounge and made your points without naming names or making anyone feel like crap and it's also nice to watch an honest man teach, reminded me of my Grandad and I know who taught you to be that way.
Peace
Sizzlean
It's good to know that there are men like you Adam who teach good and useful things. Congratulations, keep on.
Adam:
This and the last video were great.
At many points within the videos, I could hear my Dad's voice when he told me as a youngster how to behave properly in life. Using the same habits and consideration of others leads to one becoming a welcome member of the team.
Thank you.
Capt. Art
Adam, another great video with some very valuable and timely advice! keep up the good work . I really enjoy your videos!
This made me think of the sign one of our mechanics had on his toolbox: "I'd rather loan my wife than my tools. My wife will come back.:
This channel has become one of my favourites on this website. I learn something new in every video.
There is a really good discussion of torch safety over on welding tips and tricks.
When I was coming up in a machine shop I was gifted my grandpa's 0-6" Starrett outside micrometers, a beat up Tumico caliper, and a B&S 12" hook scale that had a chipped corner but nothing else. The old codgers that worked there for 30+ years would loan you a tool only a couple of times before telling you to buy your own. Thankfully most of them took pity and loaned me extra things until I managed to get my own. They pointed me to pawn shops to find the things I needed and now I have multiples of most every tool I own. I remember the first new tool I bought (Starrett 6" scale) and have carried it in my pocket for years. Buying your own tools makes you appreciate them more.
I liked this one as much as the last one, Adam.
I must have about a dozen drill chucks that go in a hanger on the wall, not including the ones that are in machines. Every one of them in the hanger has their chuck key in the chuck. So many of the keys are different, it's the best way to keep chucks and keys mated up.
You caught me on one thing. I have a bunch of drill indexes, and today while I was working I noticed I have a couple of bits in one index upside-down. I spun those two and forgot to clean them up. Can't blame anyone but ME for that, since it's in my own shop! ;)
Thanks for all the vids. I work alone in my little job shop, and it's nice to watch you, Tom, Tony and Keith after my work day. Kind of like visiting you other guy's shops and having kind of a conversation. Happy turning!
A lot of shop talk that makes sense. But I've never ever seen any of the old guys do the chuck&key trick. Top notch!
Being often referred to as a dinosaur these days here in the UK I find this refreshing. When I did my apprenticeship in the sixties these basic rules were driven home constantly. I've never forgotten.
The using the last consumable thing is an excellent point, but that works both ways. We have trouble running out of stuff at work mainly because the boss has a minor stroke anytime one of the guys tells him we're running low on something. Nobody wants to get chewed on for five minutes because the shop went through too many grinding wheels last month, so half the time nothing is said until the next guy needs one. Then the boss has a stroke because we're out of whatever, and nobody said anything. If you're the boss, you need to accept that even with honest employees who take care of their equipment, consumables are going to get used up and will need to be periodically replaced. If you don't want to be constantly running out of stuff, don't shoot the messenger when one of your employees tells you you need to order more.
I liked this video almost immediately and then as I watched it I tried to like it at least 3 more times, lol. Great video, if everyone in every shot worked like this shops would be incredible places to work!
I'll give you a like too!
good advice Adam. on the subject of tools also remember, flea markets and our favorite bidding site for a source of good tools for cheaper prices. I am a hobbyist machinist and that is how I have got all my tools to do the work
I have lent tools out to folks in the shop and they forget to return them OR They break them and UGGGG! when ya need it ! Thanks Adam ...THUMBS UP !!
With a torch i was taught first on first off. This keeps tip clean and prevents back flash.
Great tip about keeping the key in the chuck. One of my pet peeves is rolls of box tape. I worked at a place where we used a lot of box tape and it drove me mad that co workers would not turn a little corner of tape over so that it was easy to find the end. Great tips and great video, thanks Adam!
Adam, Good advice as always.
My dad insisted that no hammering be done on the surface plate. Only set p/measurements and the like. No hammering out of pins or other forms of thumping on the granite.
Regards,
Eric
That last one is a huge peeve of mine. I don't mind letting someone borrow a tool, especially a younger mechanic thats just starting out, but, if you have to borrow it more then twice its time to look at buying your own. And make sure you bring it back like you got it and clean.
And if you do damage it somehow, please own it and make it right. I know it sucks having to replace a expensive tool, but its the right thing to do.
My standing rule for loaning Tools was taught to me by my dad . After three times of loaning the same Tool to the same Man he was expected to buy he's own . I started working with my dad when I was eleven years old in he's Machine shop and I'm 58 now and I still stand by this rule . Old Tool Maker
JT Hay Fort Worth Texas
I think we would get along just fine at work, Adam. I agree with 100% of what you're putting down in these videos. Plus you have great taste in food.
Don't wait 'til the last one is being used. Notify someone when you are taking the next to last consumable item. Take the box to the expediter so he knows exactly what you need. Everything you have talked about is known as "COMMON Courtesy." I love that American Flag hanging on the wall over your left shoulder!!! I once say a nice Mercedes with vanity plates that said "Save Up". He said his kids bought it for him, because whenever they wanted something, that's what he would tell them. Great Video!
This is some of the best advice you'll ever hear, and it applies to more than shop work.
Exactly on point. You can borrow my tools as long as you keep buying your own. At my work, that means I say no to a lot of people. Listening to this list it struck me funny that most times, the men at my work do everything the exact opposite.
Suggestion -- if you've borrowed a particular tool over and over, consider if maybe you have even put more wear on it that its owner. If that's a possibility, then when you can finally afford your own, if you manage to buy the same exact tool, offer to trade them the new one in thanks. Some would accept and some would refuse, but either way you both feel good.
be thankful you were raised right and had good parents! I sure am! , hate to see the people that are still struggling because of the fact.
Adam, I worked in a factory that manufactured hydraulic pumps several years back, and we had a guy on third shift very frequently set up one of the few "common" machines (i.e., used by all departments at some point, always kept ready) then go take a nap in the john. One night, in the heat of summer, another gent, aware of this other person's habits, took a mop bucket of not-so-freshly used water, and dumped it over the wall of the stall. When management heard what had happened, the guy who dumped the water was still employed, but the other couldn't help but let slip he was asleep in the stall when he was rudely awoken by being soaked in nasty water. They made him clean his toolbox out before he could leave, and found between 15 and 20 THOUSAND dollars worth of precision tools, both company owned and people's personal tools. It was a nice night for those who had so much go missing, and he got a police record, because some of the tools belonged to people who had already left the company, but missing/stolen tool reports were on file. Thankfully all tools were returned to their respective owners afterwards.
Adam another great 10. I would add don't put back tools that are broken or dull in indexes or common tool boxes. If you can't fix it yourself, tag it so the next guy doesn't grab a dull bit out of the index.
One of my former employees knew the value of tool and equipment care. He was the one who always put things away, kept them clean, and reported any problem. He retired several
years ago and passed away earlier this year. He was the best employee, and a great guy. I give my right arm, no kidding, to have him back again.
Thanks for covering these really important shop etiquette ..really, just common sense, things. After a head injury in the military I need order and quiet for concentration. For that reason I’ve gotten a bit OCD and short tempered as a weird coping mechanism. If everyone follows the rules and respects the other workers (and the shop owner🤯) life goes just fine. I hate tardiness, noise, shouting and BS-ing, smoke and poor house keeping...but other then that I’m easy going!
Hey Adam - There is a very very great 'something' about your videos. It's an honest sincerity and unpretentiousness which are valid indicators of the calibre of you integrity. This I think is why I appreciate your videos so much. How about a 5 minute chat about your introduction to machining and your father's influence upon your attitude - coz' I'd love to know. Sincere regards from Box Hill, Melbourne, Australia. PS today I upgraded my (home) 14 inch lathe to a 4 foot lathe but my eyes (and wallet) are looking for bigger things. take care
I was always taught if you had to barrow a tool twice you need your own.
I would hate to be the guy that pissed Adam off on the job!!!!
They know when I'm pissed
You turn into A Bomb?
Lame joke of the day.
As some of your viewers remarked my father taught me that when you ask to borrow another man possession always return them in better shape than what you recieved it in. I passed this onto my nephews. A couple years ago my nephew asked to borrow my Dodge 3500, 4wd diesel with a full size camper. The truck was returned with a full tank, washed. The camper's propane tanks were filled up, waste tanks empty and the entire camper spotless inside and out. They had driven to Yosemite and put close to 2k on it. Upon returning he immediately pointed out a scratch where he had backed into a branch in a campground and had already scheduled to have it fixed at a autobody shop. He had to point it out and he was so embarrassed and apologetic. I told him don't worry about it. Some time later my son-in-law asked to just borrow the truck as he was helping a friend to move. I get the truck back two days late, empty tank (that was $90!), garbage, wrappers, and pop spilled all over everything, and umpteen new scratches on the rear fenders. Two years later he asked to borrow the ttuck again. My answer was brief, NO! Last time you borrowed the Dodge you returned it filthy inside and out, the tank empty, and several new scratches on the rear fenders, so No, you may not borrow it now or in the future. You'll have to go rent one. Needless to say, he's never asked to borrow anything else. Thank you father!
#10 in particular extends to so many other jobs, even where I work in the world of concert sound engineering. 💪🤜🤛
my bugbear of a workplace, cell phones, people who have their phones making noises for every notification, and they stop work to play with the phone, they are also always avoiding work by typing into their phone or such
Or making videos.
Lol
I really enjoy your shop etiquette
shows! I hope our apprentice will learn from what you are saying!
I started a few years ago working with metal instead of wood. Had a tool box that would not fit a framing square. So, I put it behind my box & It came up missing! Asked around & a guy said it wasn't locked up so he locked it up for me. I almost lost my cool. I had a hard time trying to figure out if he was being nice or trying to steal! Hasn't happened since. Lesson to learn is do not touch what is not yours! (Is it not the golden rule?)
One of the sayings that I will always remember
" If you can't do it right the first time, when are you going to have time to do it again"
I have always tried to keep to that rule, and hasn't let me down yet!!!!
Thank you again, as last time, for the very useful information.
Life is kind of funny. When I was working in my dads workshop, he would always ask me to put things back.
The only problem is that when he needed something that I hadn't put back, I new right where it was, without looking for where it should have been.
I have a friend, that when I was at his house, and we needed to work on a project, and needed a tool, he new right where he last used it, and more then not is was left on the ground outside in the weather, and all rusty. We had to look sometimes quite a while, around the yard to find some of them. Socket wrenches were the worst. I didn't work with him very much.
Thanks again, and have a good day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A good rule to remember is "if you Kill it then you Refill it" easy as that. run that cutting oil out, refill it. Use the last grinding disk tell the proper person to get more ordered.
Can't tell you how many times I had to swap out the oxygen tank because i found it empty.
Same here plus we had 55 gallon drums of hydraulic fluid, motor oil, antifreeze on rolling carts with air powered pumps that guys would leave empty. Those were a pain to change out.
Here's another one. How many times have you been working under a flat bed truck and have some idiot come up and hit the flat bed with a hammer. that will make you sit up and gouge your forehead into the frame.
amen
I've lost track of how many shops & offices I've been in where they have a sign to remind people to make a fresh pot of coffee when they pour the last cup...
And, let's not even get into restroom cleanliness... :(
I got to get my guys to watch your shop do's and don'ts. i am telling them this stuff every day. good video
totally agree, there is a place for everything and everything in it place ,my mantra along with clean up as you go .
Quite the informative video on general shop etiquette.. I'd like to add on to how one should go about using a grinder.
For tool's sakes, don't suffocate the air vents with your hands, especially the intakes at or near the cord end!
I've seen quite a few people take a new or new-ish, perfectly working grinder, grab n switch it on with one hand, and grip the cord end with the other for leverage and totally covering the intake vents, with and without gloves, and do some hardcore grinding or cutting task for all of 3-5 minutes, only for the poor thing to smoke and burn out before finishing the job.
And of course, damage like that is guaranteed to be beyond fixing, unless one fancied the cost of a replacement rotor and maybe brushes, plus shipping and repair labor fees. Lost count of how many grinders i've had to fix just from this issue alone, aside from the usual suspects like worn out brushes, commutators, melted brush holders, et cetera..