I’ve always been a shade tree Mechanic, I know you don’t like to hear that. But you are a good mechanic you’re very thorough and you explain things very well. I appreciate you.
Nicely Done! Ive got a horrible oscillating noise in front passenger tire. I jacked it and spun it, didnt hear scratchy sounds but I didnt try to flex the tire as you did. That hose on the tire and the rolling on the edges was a fantastic demo. Could see and hear the problem. Will try that tomorrow. Nicely Done , Very Nicely Done!
Thank you sir and good luck finding the problem. -Glen
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I know this is super old but for anyone reading this... If you've just had anything done like new tires or anything near that area, there is a thin shield behind the tire and can make all kinds of noise if it's bent at all. Not that this is the end all but it happens a lotm
Yes, very true!. Its a shield for the brake, ither protecting the rotor or whatever. One little tab on it did get bent and contacted my rotor making a horrid horrid horris screeching sound. Simple to just bend back away. If thats what you are talking about.
This is a tremendous help to me. I could've sworn I was hearing wheel bearing noise. We have a 2019 Honda CRV with bad cupping and terrible constant noise on all 4 tires(!) I'm told this tire brand is known for it. Need to change all 4 asap. A big THANK YOU for the clear explanation of tire cupping. Best demonstration of it I've ever seen.
I just had my tires replaced today the brand is Premiorri , I noticed like a humming noise after they were installed, didn't have that sound with old tires so I think it's just the tread on tires but not sure any ideas?
This is how your life could very well be in the hands of your mechanic. A lot of them cannot tell the difference between tires, wheel bearings, axle shafts, and general suspension problems. Some of them will even tell you there’s no problem at all because they don’t want to spend too much time on it. Be careful when choosing a mechanic. These issues can be very stressful and dangerous especially if your wheel locks up while on the highway..
This is exactly why I’m still driving around with that basketball noise.. I’m not wealthy so I can’t just be throwing my money at untrustworthy mechanics 😩
@@ozzstars_cars please keep doing your good job! The car owners have to be aware of the possible mechanical issues before they become catastrophic. will definitely support your channel!
Great explanation and demonstration Glen in telling the difference between wheel bearing and tire noise. Keep up the good work and have a great Labor Day weekend!
God bless you man, i was just trying to diagnose my own hyundai tucson that was doing the same sound after 60 mph, i just checked and finally managed to point out that i just needed some new tires. Thank you so much man.
Hi, Can you please share some more details what you were experiencing exactly, because I'm having noises as soon as I hit 60 MPH or above I start hearing this pulsating whomm whoom whoom sounds. Most people told me it is the bearing but I don't wanna waste money on bearing if it is the tires or something else.
1:12. I used that method myself once. Ran my hand across the tire, looked at it and it was bloody. The tire had worn to the point that the steel belts were protruding. Pretty good indicator that it was (past) time for new tires!
Thank you and God bless you Ozzstar. I just had both of my Honda CR-V's rear Wheel bearing assemblies replaced and noise was still there. After searching, I found your video, and sure enough the rear wheels had a bad cupping. I wish I had seen your video a little earlier. 🙂
Great Vid Ozz. Not mechanically inclined but I can do both of these checks on my own. In addition to the road noise coming from the right (passenger) rear tire, I have an issue with my abs lights coming on intermitantly, which leans me to thinking it could be the wheel sensor which I think is now packed inside the wheel hub assembly. Every video I watched regarding this I noticed they were working on the right rear wheel and then one guy actually said , it happens in the right rear wheel.
@@ozzstars_cars Yea, I've since seen another video with same make as my car (Ford) and it is definitely linked with the abs sensors. I actually have symbols on dashboard and message area that indicates everything on the car is not working! But everything IS working. One video said the computer gets the warning about the abs but it's able to determine there is no problem so it gets confused and starts going through everything else. The brake warning light coming on actually fixes an engine misfire! Who knew warning lights actually fixed something. lol
Thanks for the information you gave on this video. I did the checks you explained and found that the rear tyres had ‘cupping’, which I thought was the wheel bearings or worse still a problem with the diff’. The check I did with the hose on the tyres was ingenious as it has saved me a lot of money and time in diagnosing this. I’ve had 2 new tyres fitted, balanced and had a 4 wheel alignment check done, which has solved the problem. Many thanks for your info again👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👌🏼
OMG I just bought a car very cheap because the owner said it has bad wellbeirings, It makes the same noise and is the same tire brand as the one on your video, I can't wait to try the spare tire to see if stops the noise. Thank you!
Very very helpful video. I am competent diy'er and this was the best explanation I've seen for cupping - I had a noise - and I absolutely could not find it. Now I know where I'm going!
...and bang on. Could not see the problem BUT I could feel it. Plus the rolling accross the floor picked it up too. Replaced tyre - noise gone! cheers.
Thank you! I’m having the same problem. actually went to dealer preparing to have bearing replaced. They were honest and said it wasn’t the bearings and the tires needed to be balanced. Although they’re balanced the noise subsided a little, the feel is still there so I know it’s the tires. These tires are old and they’ve sat awhile in storage before I put them on for fall/winter. Thank you
Thanks! '04 Impala here. I was hearing the same noise, however, two mechanics claimed they couldn't hear it. But they told me the tire was cupped (same as the tire you presented). When you drove yours with the noise, it was the same exact sound I was hearing. I was almost certain it was a wheel bearing, but those all checked out fine. My "mystery noise" is a mystery no more!
I've found that if you catch them early enough cupping can be corrected by criss crossing them when you rotate the tires. It turns the cupping the opposite direction and allows the edge to wear down to normal. Cupping usually happens do to a combination of worn shocks or struts and lack of rotation
@@pedrogriffin1934, It might be due to going over bad pot holes. My car had new tires and hit the curb along with deep pot holes and car rear wheels have a lot of cupping and noise. I just had both rear wheel bearings changed and noise was still there. Its the bad tires, due to pot holes and other things, that can cause such noise.
@@redfordrn This is extremely frustrating. This is the second vehicle where I have to deal with this issue. Once you hear that sound you cannot unhear it. The worse part is that the dealership says there is nothing wrong with the tires and they already did balance and rotation, but the sound is still there. This is literally a new vehicle with only 16k miles on it and I’m a very cautious driver. 😡😡
@@pedrogriffin1934 Im in the same situation right now. I have a 2023 Challenger with only 1800 miles, just installed 4 new tires, then I hear it for the first time. All four tires are balanced and aligned. I still hear it. So whats the fix for cupping? just kriss cross the tires?
You explain very well. THANKS! The Pirreli tires that I bought from Tire Rack have exceeded the expected miles by 10,000 miles but now have the basketball bouncing noise. And the bearings seem quiet. What a relief. Again, Thank you.
Really informative. After watching your video, i checked my car myself and found out that its the tyre making noise. Gonna get it replaced today. Hopefully it works
thank you brother that club noise is a noise I've been looking for people in life to figure out and you solved it!!!!!! It's the wheel bearing hub. Thank you so much. Peace love and blessings to you.
Back in the day, one of the causes of cupped tires was bad shock absorbers. Suspension geometries have changed over the years, but to me this would be a consideration.
Great, very informative video. I had this rumbling noise going down the highway, but no real vibration... That was confusing me a bit. Anyways, after watching your video, i took the rear tires off and immediately found the problem. Thanks big time for the upload.
Hi Ozz! Great video! I recently went to a mechanic for my 19 Civic Hatch. I was/am getting a humming noise that seems to be coming from the front driver side tire. They told me that I had two bent rims on the same side, likely from a pot hole hitting both of them at interstate speeds. They were able to fix one of the rims and they replaced the other. Because of the rims, they said that the tires developed 'feathering'. It is particularly loud at around 30-35 mph and at 40ish mph. At other speeds, I feel like I can still hear the tone, but it fades a little. They rotated the tires to try and even out the feathering. However, one of the tires that was on a bent rim, got rotated to the front driver again and I am still hearing the noise almost exactly the same as before. They told me it wasn't a bearing issue and they did an alignment to try and prevent more future damage. Does feathering eventually even out and is that type of damage consistent with that noise symptom? Thank you!
Remember, each increase in 3dB is double the sound. Ask any Audiophile about your home stereo speaker output at 1 watt at 1 meter. I was also taught to drive on different types of road surfaces such as a blacktop road with a cement bridge and dirt roadside. If the sound stays the same, it's a bearing, if the pitch changes, it's the tire. I also use my hand and it works very well. Sometimes with a vibrating steering wheel, rotating the tires to see if the vibration goes away points to bad wheel/tire assembly for several different reasons due to bad rim or tire.
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This is one of the best and most helpful videos I’ve seen in a while. Thank you! I’m going to check the tread as you demonstrated. I’ve already checked the tire and have determined the wheel bearing is fine.
It looks like you can see the cupping just before you remove the tire. Good vid, had my Subaru rear bearings replaced and the noise is less but seems to have moved to the front. I’ll be checking the tires tomorrow. 👍👍
@tchads57 if you don't mind sharing, what did they find? I have the exact same issue with my Subaru right now. They replaced bearings and backing plates on the rear wheels but now noise seems to be coming from the front. Dealership looked at it and they are saying my front brakes are very rusted and calipers are seized. I'm hoping fixing those fixes the issue but costs are adding up now...
@@SexyTexas having the calipers replaced helped but honestly if you put the windows down and drive under 25 mph you can still hear a slight sound the tires make. The mechanic said it's not an issue and the car drives fine, so I've resolved to let it go. But it is still weird to me.
Man I spent $600 on two rear oem wheel hubs installed because I thought it was the bearings on my 17' Forester XT. Which is fine because subarus are known to have bad rear bearings after so many miles. Less I have to worry for many more miles. Did the hose trick and man the tires are exactly like the one in your video. 20k miles on Toyo AT3s. Most likely driving on back country roads to get to work everyday. Thanks for the video!!!!
@@ozzstars_cars Thanks for the info. I was thinking 5k miles. Discount tires told me every 3k looks like 5k is right in between. They had my tires so I got them installed. What a difference!
Great idea with the hose! 30R7 hose, no less. :D These can be a real PITA to pinpoint! I got burned on my own vehicle 13 years ago - was the first time ever dealing with a hub bearing assembly. The noise was super loud when I cranked the wheel to the left while driving, so I figured, that's easy - it's the right bearing. Replaced the right bearing, and while that quieted things down a bit, there was still a ton of noise! Replaced the left one, and all was well. I always sell hub bearings in pairs now after experiencing this, or else I don't guarantee the noise will be gone. Hope you had a fun Labor Day weekend, Glen. Looked like you did from your Insty. :)
Yeah it's best to swap them in pairs. Remember when cars went 20 years and 200k and never had a bearing failure? Weekend went to fast. Hope yours was good too.
@@ozzstars_cars - Yeah, I hear that! Luckily I still have one in the fleet (the Grand Marquis) that will still do that. With Amsoil grease, I repack them maybe once every 10 years, lol. I also hear ya about the weekend - they always go too fast! A great weekend, nonetheless. Thanks, brother. 👍🍻
It took me 3 years for me to find the weird scraping noise no mechanic could find. Not a brake pad noise or shield noise, or bearing noise. Putting my 2015 Toyota Highlander (35k miles) on a lift was futile because when I eventually found the problem, it had nothing to do with any normal mechanical parts. It had to do with placing a load on the tire itself. Putting the car on a lift took the load off the tire and there was no noise. When driving and turning left or right, a slight scraping sound came from BOTH sides of the front of the car. The clue: In rainy weather there was no scraping sound at all. In rainy weather the tire bead got wet and lubricated the tire and the bead area which is why it went quiet. When it dried, the noise came back. I realized this when I removed my old tires, cleaned the bead area, and put fresh tires on. Not a sound even after 2 months. Problem solved.
@@noelsanchez380 I never drove a vehicle with a totally flat tire as doing so would destroy the internal components of the tire. I drove with these particular tires at times low on air until the tire warning light illuminated on the dash then I just added air. I have had bad wheel bearings (just starting to go bad) on different vehicles which sounded closest to the tire problem I had. Just a note: No noise yet since I changed these tires.
I just paid 500 to replace the two worn front tires, and the noise was on the good tread back tires. At this point, I’m ready to just spin the tread down to even. I’ll oil up a surface, and let it spin fast without reaching high RPM.
I have seen that exact condition. In that case it was the neibours kid that took a turn in a parking lot and hit a curb and thats exactly the result . Now I have to ask who ran over a curb on that vehicle 😅😅
Thank you so much ...for past two weeks i thought it was gear issue , clutch issue ... when i go to speeds above 50 i or 60 i get this noise when i drive i fee the noise it in the back left seat.. i was searching the internet and i could not find any but now you have made this beautiful video for me to understand...
That is very helpful, I have been struggling the noise for a year, changed bearing, the noise is still there, my tires were purchased from costco and had maintainence each 5000 miles, I did not think that is tire surface issue, I will check it by myself.
hey glen! good vid today but on the leaning on when driving, the bearing has 2 sides if the inside of the bearing is bad the weight gets moved to the outside it will get quieter... so the bad bearing can be on the other side. hey, that looked like a toe problem... positive for that tire
Excellent explanation, you have killed my doubt, my car have the same problem the tires inner edge is worn out and bumps are being developed, i will make a wheel alignment
When I moved up to West Virginia from Florida. I had a belt let loose on my passenger side rear ..My Van started doing the Bunny Hop and my. Doors were Rattling ..I was Like " ITS BREAKING UP SCOTTY ..ITS BREAKING UP " .turned out to just be a tire .I thought it was a U-Joint
Great video! I should have been able to save $99 for inspection in the dealer if I had a chance watching this video. Now I am sure my tires have chopping / cupping problem, instead of bearing problem. Thanks~
Had the same exact brand of tires. Had Continentals on the front but different kind/tread. Anywho, changed my brakes(needed it) and checked all my bearings. All good. Rotated back tires to the front, noise was coming from the back. Now it moved to the front. Even sounded louder. Then I just happened to be parked with my tires in the right light and could see light and dark spots. The cupping! Just stopped at Discount tire and replaced the front. OMG. So quiet. Who would’ve thunk that is could sound like my Veloster had Super swampers on it lol. Thx for the video 👍👍
Experiencing same thing with my 2008 Jeep Liberty, noticable loud rolling sound while going 5 mph. Just got these tires put on. going to check everything you did and let you know.
Good buddy of mine his Father have the same noise like it was bearing ( he is a car mechanic 20 years). 3 years ago he changed bearing and noise was still there. Replaced Continental tyre and problem fixed.👍
Just wanted to say "Thank you!" for the differential diag. between wheel bearing and a tire. I've been researching what my issue is with my 2007 Honda Ridgeline and haven't found any solid difference between the two main culprits (wheel bearing or tire, sound wise) until I saw your video. Really hoping my issue is a tire, however regardless, great troubleshooting video!
@@plutodread97 luckily it was cupping of the tires due to the vehicle needing an alignment. Surprisingly I never got any indication that an alignment was needed prior to the issue.
i went to test drive a 2014 q50 sport and it had some noise coming from the wheels. i didnt know what it was so i didn't buy the car. did some research and you just duplicated the exact noise it was making when i was going over 60KMH.. THANK YOU
Another tip but you have to be paying attention to your vehicle sound. I have a bearing going, driver's side front. Driving down my street cold vehicle from overnight, outside temp 30ish, for the first mile (give or take) it's normal sound. After it starts heating up it starts a rumble noise which gets louder to a point then just stays at that rumble noise level. Let it cool down, rinse and repeat.
Great video, I brought new tires for my 2017 Camry (44000 miles) from Costco and within weeks I have the same issue (humming noise inside car cabin)with my one tire. Thanks 🙏 for the video to clearly make a difference between tire issues vs wheel bearing.
Very informative. I was 100% sure it was my wheel bearing, but I didnt get the wooble when doing the 12/6 and the 9/3 movement. Also I tho I heard something when rotating the tire fast to listen, but now I think it was just the rotor getting a bit of a touch.. So now ive gone down to 50% xD. I also did the steering thing, but I was just thinking I didnt do it aggressivley enough. Will def take a look on the wheels asap. Any other tips of how I can check with the light if I dont have a rounded pipe like that? And I will def try the left-right again to see if I can hear anything.
Gaddamn. I finally found a video that solved it for me. I definitely have a bad tyre. For months, I've been thinking it might be a bad bearing. But the noise I'm hearing is very similar to the one you experienced in the clip. So, I will be putting new tyres, see if it helps (rear tyres are gone anyways, so the timing is almost perfect anyway).
@@ozzstars_cars Ok. So, I had the tyres replaced. And the noise is gone...Well, for like 90% of the time. The car drives and feels much better on the moyorway and makes significantly less noise. However, I was still able to hear the noise (albeit less pronounced than before) from time to time. Not sure exactly when. Seems random. Will keep an eye/ear on this. But still really happy with the results of replacing the tyres (according to my mechanic, the tyre whisperer, it was the rear tyres that were deformed or something).
Great video! Easy to comprehend. Thank-you. I am not the sharpest knife in th3 drawer, but I do cut butter. At 1:49 you can see the scallopimg on the tire by the grey / black areas on the tire. Thank-you Sir. SNPJR
Very nice. You answered my question before i asked it. I have a noise driver side front. Goes away when I turn left but I don't notice it getting louder turning right. It is however getting louder all together so im going to have to listen again and take that wheel off asap. Thank you.
Just sold that generation outback and bought that generation santa fe lol! I have some vibration and a faint clicking sound when rolling slowly in traffic, rear passenger tire. This information will be very useful when I inevitably need bearings replaced soon 😂 Thanks!
Very well explained, I do appreciate your time making this video. I have Nissan X-trail 2019 Model, and all of a sudden this humming noise started, I live in Dubai and the roads are hot, I'm pretty sure my car need new tyres, not the bearing, it's been 4 years. 👍🏽
thank you I have a drone sound on my 2013 4 runner from the front a friend noticed some wear on one tyre so Im getting an alighnment done but Ill jack it up and do the 6 12 3 9 check as welll as I think it may be a bearing this info video is one of the best I ever seen well done and thanks Bill
Men you save me I have a Renault Megane classic 1.4 8v 1997 4doors stage one and I recently change tires and my tire rear right was make the same sound like yours I like your explanation you gain a subscriber greetings from Greece an Albanian guy
10:04 if you watch my video on why it’s so important that all wheel drive vehicles have the same tread depth What’s the link to that video? You should have dropped a link card in your RUclips video editor. I’ll see if I can find it.
8:37 When you compare "small" dB changes you have to remember that the sound energy doubles every 3 dB. Humans do not interpret 3 dB difference that loud in most cases, though. Most humans call +10 dB about double as loud when in reality it's over 8x as loud on linear scale. And if you want to understand better why tire or bearing noise is so easy to hear even though a general purpose sound meter doesn't show a big difference, look at the spectrogram. General purpose sound meters average all frequencies and narrow band louder noise gets averaged with near silence on other frequencies. If you have an Android phone, an app called "Spectroid" is really good to see narrow peaks in sound frequency spectrum. Some irritating noise has often pretty narrow peak but the peak sound level may be pretty high compared to the environment.
Thanks for the video. Man my current tires on my car are so loud that I felt like I needed wheel bearings lol. It drives me crazy to the point where I feel like doing as many burnouts as I can to spread them and getting a new set of better more quiet tires.
Great video sir. I have the same experience on my daughters car. Turn left and it was growling at driver side at low speed. I jacked it up and did the 126 grab, sure enough it was bearing. Thank you for sharing.
Alrighty so I have a quick question about that. So when I turn left it starts the rattle but when my foot is pushing on the break petal, the noise quiets. Does this sound like the same scenario that happen with your daughters car?
WOW! Thanks bud! I used your hose trick and found it was a bad tire, replaced it and noise gone! Thank you
Excellent!
But what caused the problem in the first place?
@@CRQFprobably uneven wear on the tires
I’ve always been a shade tree Mechanic, I know you don’t like to hear that. But you are a good mechanic you’re very thorough and you explain things very well. I appreciate you.
@@jojojeep1 thanks for your comment JoJo
Nicely Done! Ive got a horrible oscillating noise in front passenger tire. I jacked it and spun it, didnt hear scratchy sounds but I didnt try to flex the tire as you did. That hose on the tire and the rolling on the edges was a fantastic demo. Could see and hear the problem. Will try that tomorrow. Nicely Done , Very Nicely Done!
Thank you sir and good luck finding the problem. -Glen
I know this is super old but for anyone reading this... If you've just had anything done like new tires or anything near that area, there is a thin shield behind the tire and can make all kinds of noise if it's bent at all. Not that this is the end all but it happens a lotm
Yes, very true!. Its a shield for the brake, ither protecting the rotor or whatever. One little tab on it did get bent and contacted my rotor making a horrid horrid horris screeching sound. Simple to just bend back away. If thats what you are talking about.
This is a tremendous help to me. I could've sworn I was hearing wheel bearing noise. We have a 2019 Honda CRV with bad cupping and terrible constant noise on all 4 tires(!) I'm told this tire brand is known for it. Need to change all 4 asap. A big THANK YOU for the clear explanation of tire cupping. Best demonstration of it I've ever seen.
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What tire brand was yours? I have all four doing it too. Mine came on the car when I bought it and are Doral SDL Sport brand made in Indonesia.
I just had my tires replaced today the brand is Premiorri , I noticed like a humming noise after they were installed, didn't have that sound with old tires so I think it's just the tread on tires but not sure any ideas?
24 civic same problem bad tire. Mechanic told me it was the bearing changed it same noise. Same mechanic might be the tire.
This is how your life could very well be in the hands of your mechanic. A lot of them cannot tell the difference between tires, wheel bearings, axle shafts, and general suspension problems. Some of them will even tell you there’s no problem at all because they don’t want to spend too much time on it. Be careful when choosing a mechanic. These issues can be very stressful and dangerous especially if your wheel locks up while on the highway..
It's hard these days to find anyone who is competent in any field of work. Good point Matt!
Yes, a lot of them will tell you to replace everything and when the noise doesn’t go away it your fault.
This is exactly why I’m still driving around with that basketball noise.. I’m not wealthy so I can’t just be throwing my money at untrustworthy mechanics 😩
Great job! I like your scientific approach: research, investigation, road testing!
Thanks Boris!
@@ozzstars_cars please keep doing your good job! The car owners have to be aware of the possible mechanical issues before they become catastrophic. will definitely support your channel!
Thanks! This helped out so much!!!
That's a great demonstration Glen on how to properly check a mysterious noise.
Same here did you ever figure it out?
Thanks very comprehensive and helps many non-mechanics get an auto repair education Thumbs up
Thanks for the comment Gary.
Great explanation and demonstration Glen in telling the difference between wheel bearing and tire noise. Keep up the good work and have a great Labor Day weekend!
Thanks Terry.👍
He just replaced the tire he didn't fix the problem
You are awesome. This was the only video that actually mentioned HOW to determine if there’s cupping!
Glad it was helpful!
God bless you man, i was just trying to diagnose my own hyundai tucson that was doing the same sound after 60 mph, i just checked and finally managed to point out that i just needed some new tires. Thank you so much man.
You're welcome. I need all the blessings I can get. Thank you.
me too
Hi, Can you please share some more details what you were experiencing exactly, because I'm having noises as soon as I hit 60 MPH or above I start hearing this pulsating whomm whoom whoom sounds. Most people told me it is the bearing but I don't wanna waste money on bearing if it is the tires or something else.
1:12. I used that method myself once. Ran my hand across the tire, looked at it and it was bloody. The tire had worn to the point that the steel belts were protruding. Pretty good indicator that it was (past) time for new tires!
Thank you and God bless you Ozzstar. I just had both of my Honda CR-V's rear Wheel bearing assemblies replaced and noise was still there. After searching, I found your video, and sure enough the rear wheels had a bad cupping. I wish I had seen your video a little earlier. 🙂
Now you know. 👍
Great Vid Ozz. Not mechanically inclined but I can do both of these checks on my own. In addition to the road noise coming from the right (passenger) rear tire, I have an issue with my abs lights coming on intermitantly, which leans me to thinking it could be the wheel sensor which I think is now packed inside the wheel hub assembly. Every video I watched regarding this I noticed they were working on the right rear wheel and then one guy actually said , it happens in the right rear wheel.
Something to keep in mind, a bad wheel bearing can also cause a wheel speed sensor code. Due to wobble or damage.
@@ozzstars_cars Yea, I've since seen another video with same make as my car (Ford) and it is definitely linked with the abs sensors. I actually have symbols on dashboard and message area that indicates everything on the car is not working! But everything IS working. One video said the computer gets the warning about the abs but it's able to determine there is no problem so it gets confused and starts going through everything else. The brake warning light coming on actually fixes an engine misfire! Who knew warning lights actually fixed something. lol
Thanks for the information you gave on this video. I did the checks you explained and found that the rear tyres had ‘cupping’, which I thought was the wheel bearings or worse still a problem with the diff’. The check I did with the hose on the tyres was ingenious as it has saved me a lot of money and time in diagnosing this. I’ve had 2 new tyres fitted, balanced and had a 4 wheel alignment check done, which has solved the problem. Many thanks for your info again👍🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👌🏼
You're welcome!
OMG I just bought a car very cheap because the owner said it has bad wellbeirings,
It makes the same noise and is the same tire brand as the one on your video, I can't wait to try the spare tire to see if stops the noise.
Thank you!
Let us know how it goes.
I confirmed the tires are the problem,
Very very helpful video. I am competent diy'er and this was the best explanation I've seen for cupping - I had a noise - and I absolutely could not find it. Now I know where I'm going!
Let us know what you discover.
...and bang on. Could not see the problem BUT I could feel it. Plus the rolling accross the floor picked it up too. Replaced tyre - noise gone! cheers.
@@PRoberts-b1c nicely done like a pro!
Thank you! I’m having the same problem. actually went to dealer preparing to have bearing replaced. They were honest and said it wasn’t the bearings and the tires needed to be balanced. Although they’re balanced the noise subsided a little, the feel is still there so I know it’s the tires.
These tires are old and they’ve sat awhile in storage before I put them on for fall/winter.
Thank you
Glad I could help
Before you go running your hand over your tire check it for nails, glass, metal or anything that could cut your hand.
Ouch! That's good advice.
How u know?
Pro tip: use your hard callused feet to inspect the tire
How do you know
@Charles X lol pretty accurate my man
Thanks! '04 Impala here. I was hearing the same noise, however, two mechanics claimed they couldn't hear it. But they told me the tire was cupped (same as the tire you presented). When you drove yours with the noise, it was the same exact sound I was hearing. I was almost certain it was a wheel bearing, but those all checked out fine. My "mystery noise" is a mystery no more!
@randolphpatterson5061 mystery solved! Now you can get some new tires and drive on comfort. -Glen (Ozz)
I've found that if you catch them early enough cupping can be corrected by criss crossing them when you rotate the tires. It turns the cupping the opposite direction and allows the edge to wear down to normal. Cupping usually happens do to a combination of worn shocks or struts and lack of rotation
How can you explain this on a car with only 16k miles on it that is driven very sporadically.
@@pedrogriffin1934, It might be due to going over bad pot holes. My car had new tires and hit the curb along with deep pot holes and car rear wheels have a lot of cupping and noise. I just had both rear wheel bearings changed and noise was still there. Its the bad tires, due to pot holes and other things, that can cause such noise.
@@redfordrn This is extremely frustrating. This is the second vehicle where I have to deal with this issue. Once you hear that sound you cannot unhear it. The worse part is that the dealership says there is nothing wrong with the tires and they already did balance and rotation, but the sound is still there. This is literally a new vehicle with only 16k miles on it and I’m a very cautious driver. 😡😡
Excellent video! 😊
@@pedrogriffin1934 Im in the same situation right now. I have a 2023 Challenger with only 1800 miles, just installed 4 new tires, then I hear it for the first time. All four tires are balanced and aligned. I still hear it. So whats the fix for cupping? just kriss cross the tires?
You explain very well. THANKS! The Pirreli tires that I bought from Tire Rack have exceeded the expected miles by 10,000 miles but now have the basketball bouncing noise. And the bearings seem quiet. What a relief. Again, Thank you.
@brucedantuma7182 glad the video was helpful! Take care Bruce.
Really informative. After watching your video, i checked my car myself and found out that its the tyre making noise. Gonna get it replaced today. Hopefully it works
Did it help?
@@merandalindsell3417 yes
Excellent and clear discussion of this common issue. Best part is the hose on the tire to reveal the cupping. Best vid I've found!
thank you brother that club noise is a noise I've been looking for people in life to figure out and you solved it!!!!!! It's the wheel bearing hub. Thank you so much. Peace love and blessings to you.
Great video. It’s nice to watch someone that is really good at what they do. Thanks for the video
Thanks for the positive comment!
Appreciate your vids I fix my cars myself so I know enough but I'm learning more from these vids much respect
Thank you sir and way to go.
Lmao imma lady not a sir 🤣
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Perfect explanation with rolling tire on flat surface. Just went through same problem and found the tire issue. alignments was off.
@@Munsad1919 right on finding the prob! -Glen (Ozz)
this is great because you explained it and showed exactly what/how/why.... thank you!!
Back in the day, one of the causes of cupped tires was bad shock absorbers. Suspension geometries have changed over the years, but to me this would be a consideration.
All things considered and I would agree that bad struts or shocks can cause cupping.
Great, very informative video. I had this rumbling noise going down the highway, but no real vibration... That was confusing me a bit. Anyways, after watching your video, i took the rear tires off and immediately found the problem. Thanks big time for the upload.
Awesome you found the issue! Sucks you need new tires.
Hi Ozz! Great video! I recently went to a mechanic for my 19 Civic Hatch. I was/am getting a humming noise that seems to be coming from the front driver side tire. They told me that I had two bent rims on the same side, likely from a pot hole hitting both of them at interstate speeds. They were able to fix one of the rims and they replaced the other. Because of the rims, they said that the tires developed 'feathering'. It is particularly loud at around 30-35 mph and at 40ish mph. At other speeds, I feel like I can still hear the tone, but it fades a little. They rotated the tires to try and even out the feathering. However, one of the tires that was on a bent rim, got rotated to the front driver again and I am still hearing the noise almost exactly the same as before. They told me it wasn't a bearing issue and they did an alignment to try and prevent more future damage. Does feathering eventually even out and is that type of damage consistent with that noise symptom? Thank you!
Feathering tires are worn out. Cupped tires rarely self correct without being shaved down with a machine.
Remember, each increase in 3dB is double the sound. Ask any Audiophile about your home stereo speaker output at 1 watt at 1 meter. I was also taught to drive on different types of road surfaces such as a blacktop road with a cement bridge and dirt roadside. If the sound stays the same, it's a bearing, if the pitch changes, it's the tire. I also use my hand and it works very well. Sometimes with a vibrating steering wheel, rotating the tires to see if the vibration goes away points to bad wheel/tire assembly for several different reasons due to bad rim or tire.
Good info!
3db is 100% increase in sound energy. But only a 26% increase in perceived sound loudness.
When you say rotate the tires do you mean from front to back or left to right?
Great video,this guy knows his stuff.
I appreciate your comment, thanks! -Glen (Ozz)
..ours is a front wheel slow "Squeak, Squeak, Squeak, Squeak, " when the wife drives off down the road.....nissan leaf - thx for video! ✨✨
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That's scary!
Thank you for making this video. My Honda accord is making those so call sounds. I will investigate and find out what is happening.
Hello, My Honda Accord is doing the same thing. Did you figure yours out?
This is one of the best and most helpful videos I’ve seen in a while. Thank you! I’m going to check the tread as you demonstrated. I’ve already checked the tire and have determined the wheel bearing is fine.
Glad it helped Amber. Let us know how it goes!
It looks like you can see the cupping just before you remove the tire.
Good vid, had my Subaru rear bearings replaced and the noise is less but seems to have moved to the front. I’ll be checking the tires tomorrow. 👍👍
Good idea.
@tchads57 if you don't mind sharing, what did they find? I have the exact same issue with my Subaru right now. They replaced bearings and backing plates on the rear wheels but now noise seems to be coming from the front. Dealership looked at it and they are saying my front brakes are very rusted and calipers are seized. I'm hoping fixing those fixes the issue but costs are adding up now...
@@firecrackersamwhat was it
@@SexyTexas having the calipers replaced helped but honestly if you put the windows down and drive under 25 mph you can still hear a slight sound the tires make. The mechanic said it's not an issue and the car drives fine, so I've resolved to let it go. But it is still weird to me.
Man I spent $600 on two rear oem wheel hubs installed because I thought it was the bearings on my 17' Forester XT. Which is fine because subarus are known to have bad rear bearings after so many miles. Less I have to worry for many more miles. Did the hose trick and man the tires are exactly like the one in your video. 20k miles on Toyo AT3s. Most likely driving on back country roads to get to work everyday.
Thanks for the video!!!!
Rotate the tires every 8k miles, should help out in the long run.
@@ozzstars_cars Thanks for the info. I was thinking 5k miles. Discount tires told me every 3k looks like 5k is right in between. They had my tires so I got them installed. What a difference!
Great idea with the hose! 30R7 hose, no less. :D
These can be a real PITA to pinpoint! I got burned on my own vehicle 13 years ago - was the first time ever dealing with a hub bearing assembly. The noise was super loud when I cranked the wheel to the left while driving, so I figured, that's easy - it's the right bearing. Replaced the right bearing, and while that quieted things down a bit, there was still a ton of noise! Replaced the left one, and all was well. I always sell hub bearings in pairs now after experiencing this, or else I don't guarantee the noise will be gone.
Hope you had a fun Labor Day weekend, Glen. Looked like you did from your Insty. :)
Yeah it's best to swap them in pairs. Remember when cars went 20 years and 200k and never had a bearing failure? Weekend went to fast. Hope yours was good too.
@@ozzstars_cars - Yeah, I hear that! Luckily I still have one in the fleet (the Grand Marquis) that will still do that. With Amsoil grease, I repack them maybe once every 10 years, lol. I also hear ya about the weekend - they always go too fast! A great weekend, nonetheless. Thanks, brother. 👍🍻
Thank you for making this video. It helped me diagnose my problem. Very helpful and extremely well done.
That's awesome John! You're welcome. Was it a tire or a bearing?
It took me 3 years for me to find the weird scraping noise no mechanic could find. Not a brake pad noise or shield noise, or bearing noise. Putting my 2015 Toyota Highlander (35k miles) on a lift was futile because when I eventually found the problem, it had nothing to do with any normal mechanical parts. It had to do with placing a load on the tire itself. Putting the car on a lift took the load off the tire and there was no noise. When driving and turning left or right, a slight scraping sound came from BOTH sides of the front of the car. The clue: In rainy weather there was no scraping sound at all. In rainy weather the tire bead got wet and lubricated the tire and the bead area which is why it went quiet. When it dried, the noise came back. I realized this when I removed my old tires, cleaned the bead area, and put fresh tires on. Not a sound even after 2 months. Problem solved.
Did your tire sound like it had a flat?
@@noelsanchez380 I never drove a vehicle with a totally flat tire as doing so would destroy the internal components of the tire. I drove with these particular tires at times low on air until the tire warning light illuminated on the dash then I just added air. I have had bad wheel bearings (just starting to go bad) on different vehicles which sounded closest to the tire problem I had. Just a note: No noise yet since I changed these tires.
Beautiful, man. Just what I was looking for. Well done. Excellent! Thanks for the post.
Very well done and explained , thanks
Very good videos.. Very helpful, simple and boost confidence in new DIYer like me.
Happy to help
Thank you! You helped me diagnose a bad tire.
Glad the video helped! -Glen
Great video very informative. You did the woo woo sound perfect. Don't be too hard on your boy's driving :-) thank you
Haha thanks!
LOL, I remember when I was young, always wanted to help Dad and wanted his approval. I can see the respect he has for you.
I just paid 500 to replace the two worn front tires, and the noise was on the good tread back tires. At this point, I’m ready to just spin the tread down to even. I’ll oil up a surface, and let it spin fast without reaching high RPM.
😂😂😂
I have seen that exact condition. In that case it was the neibours kid that took a turn in a parking lot and hit a curb and thats exactly the result . Now I have to ask who ran over a curb on that vehicle 😅😅
Thank you so much ...for past two weeks i thought it was gear issue , clutch issue ... when i go to speeds above 50 i or 60 i get this noise when i drive i fee the noise it in the back left seat.. i was searching the internet and i could not find any but now you have made this beautiful video for me to understand...
I have the same problem like if aeroplane is behind me on back seats.. hope its just the tire and not the bearings!!
Good content. Thanx
That is very helpful, I have been struggling the noise for a year, changed bearing, the noise is still there, my tires were purchased from costco and had maintainence each 5000 miles, I did not think that is tire surface issue, I will check it by myself.
@@worldvistor what type of vehicle do you own?
hey glen! good vid today but on the leaning on when driving, the bearing has 2 sides if the inside of the bearing is bad the weight gets moved to the outside it will get quieter... so the bad bearing can be on the other side. hey, that looked like a toe problem... positive for that tire
I will agree anything is possible. Diagnosing which bearing is failing can be tricky at times.
Excellent explanation, you have killed my doubt, my car have the same problem the tires inner edge is worn out and bumps are being developed, i will make a wheel alignment
When I moved up to West Virginia from Florida. I had a belt let loose on my passenger side rear ..My Van started doing the Bunny Hop and my. Doors were Rattling ..I was Like " ITS BREAKING UP SCOTTY ..ITS BREAKING UP " .turned out to just be a tire .I thought it was a U-Joint
Thanks bro. Best vid so far on this topic.
You got it man! Thanks for the comment.
...lol... mechanic will never do this test in our cars...
You need to find one that will.
@ozzstars_cars ... no thanks, what's a bad idea, lol 😆
Brilliant idea for demonstrating cupping on a tire.
@@jamezz3100 thanks!
Let us hear the noise.
Which one, I make all kinds. 🤣
Great video! I should have been able to save $99 for inspection in the dealer if I had a chance watching this video. Now I am sure my tires have chopping / cupping problem, instead of bearing problem. Thanks~
Had the same exact brand of tires. Had Continentals on the front but different kind/tread. Anywho, changed my brakes(needed it) and checked all my bearings. All good. Rotated back tires to the front, noise was coming from the back. Now it moved to the front. Even sounded louder. Then I just happened to be parked with my tires in the right light and could see light and dark spots. The cupping! Just stopped at Discount tire and replaced the front. OMG. So quiet. Who would’ve thunk that is could sound like my Veloster had Super swampers on it lol. Thx for the video 👍👍
Good 'ol 44 inch Super Swampers, I remember those days! 😜 Take care James.
Definitely the same noise I’m experiencing on the decibel experiment drive. Was thinking the same thing wheel/wheel bearing diagnosis. Thank you!
wow thanks soo much Ozz... i was abt ti get mad at the repairs guy thinking it was his bearings yet i had bought new ones... thanks for that insight
Glad the video helped Fred!
Experiencing same thing with my 2008 Jeep Liberty, noticable loud rolling sound while going 5 mph. Just got these tires put on. going to check everything you did and let you know.
Keep us posted
Good buddy of mine his Father have the same noise like it was bearing ( he is a car mechanic 20 years).
3 years ago he changed bearing and noise was still there.
Replaced Continental tyre and problem fixed.👍
Problem solved! Nice.
Just wanted to say "Thank you!" for the differential diag. between wheel bearing and a tire. I've been researching what my issue is with my 2007 Honda Ridgeline and haven't found any solid difference between the two main culprits (wheel bearing or tire, sound wise) until I saw your video. Really hoping my issue is a tire, however regardless, great troubleshooting video!
Glad the video was helpful Mitch! Let us know what you find.
what was your issue did you find out??
@@plutodread97 luckily it was cupping of the tires due to the vehicle needing an alignment. Surprisingly I never got any indication that an alignment was needed prior to the issue.
i went to test drive a 2014 q50 sport and it had some noise coming from the wheels. i didnt know what it was so i didn't buy the car. did some research and you just duplicated the exact noise it was making when i was going over 60KMH.. THANK YOU
The inside tread of my rear- driver tread was indeed cupped. Thank you Ozzstar!
Good to know you found the problem. -Glen
Another tip but you have to be paying attention to your vehicle sound. I have a bearing going, driver's side front. Driving down my street cold vehicle from overnight, outside temp 30ish, for the first mile (give or take) it's normal sound. After it starts heating up it starts a rumble noise which gets louder to a point then just stays at that rumble noise level. Let it cool down, rinse and repeat.
Time to fix it.
Thanks I hear the sound that your tires make and that's exactly what I hear on the inside of my car while driving my car.
Great video, I brought new tires for my 2017 Camry (44000 miles) from Costco and within weeks I have the same issue (humming noise inside car cabin)with my one tire. Thanks 🙏 for the video to clearly make a difference between tire issues vs wheel bearing.
You're welcome Rupi
I'm curious, what brand and model of tire did you buy? The shop did use a torque wrench to tighten the lugnuts correctly?
Michelin Defender T & H bought and installed from Costco
@@rupicalifornia8772 rides a lot better now?
Very informative. I was 100% sure it was my wheel bearing, but I didnt get the wooble when doing the 12/6 and the 9/3 movement. Also I tho I heard something when rotating the tire fast to listen, but now I think it was just the rotor getting a bit of a touch.. So now ive gone down to 50% xD. I also did the steering thing, but I was just thinking I didnt do it aggressivley enough.
Will def take a look on the wheels asap. Any other tips of how I can check with the light if I dont have a rounded pipe like that? And I will def try the left-right again to see if I can hear anything.
Feeling the thread with your hand back and forth is the best set of "eyes" you'll ever have. Good luck with the diagnosis!
Super helpful video! Thanks for explaining and demonstrating not only the cause of the issue but also how to determine what it might be.
You are welcome Ian, glad the video was helpful. -Glen
Gaddamn. I finally found a video that solved it for me. I definitely have a bad tyre. For months, I've been thinking it might be a bad bearing. But the noise I'm hearing is very similar to the one you experienced in the clip. So, I will be putting new tyres, see if it helps (rear tyres are gone anyways, so the timing is almost perfect anyway).
Let us us know how smooth and quiet the new tires are.
@@ozzstars_cars Yes. Will be installing them probably somewhere next week. Will come back to let you know the results 🙂
@@ozzstars_cars Ok. So, I had the tyres replaced. And the noise is gone...Well, for like 90% of the time. The car drives and feels much better on the moyorway and makes significantly less noise. However, I was still able to hear the noise (albeit less pronounced than before) from time to time. Not sure exactly when. Seems random. Will keep an eye/ear on this.
But still really happy with the results of replacing the tyres (according to my mechanic, the tyre whisperer, it was the rear tyres that were deformed or something).
I have this exact noise that comes in around 24 mph and replaced the bearings thinking it would go away but it still the same so this is good to know.
Great video! Easy to comprehend. Thank-you. I am not the sharpest knife in th3 drawer, but I do cut butter.
At 1:49 you can see the scallopimg on the tire by the grey / black areas on the tire. Thank-you Sir.
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Yo yo yo baby pop it's cupped real good! Glad the video was straightforward to you. I can hear the music pumpin' hard! 😁👍
Very nice. You answered my question before i asked it. I have a noise driver side front. Goes away when I turn left but I don't notice it getting louder turning right. It is however getting louder all together so im going to have to listen again and take that wheel off asap. Thank you.
Just sold that generation outback and bought that generation santa fe lol! I have some vibration and a faint clicking sound when rolling slowly in traffic, rear passenger tire. This information will be very useful when I inevitably need bearings replaced soon 😂 Thanks!
Funny coincidence!
Very well explained, I do appreciate your time making this video. I have Nissan X-trail 2019 Model, and all of a sudden this humming noise started, I live in Dubai and the roads are hot, I'm pretty sure my car need new tyres, not the bearing, it's been 4 years. 👍🏽
Good luck with the repair Fahad.
thank you I have a drone sound on my 2013 4 runner from the front a friend noticed some wear on one tyre so Im getting an alighnment done but Ill jack it up and do the 6 12 3 9 check as welll as I think it may be a bearing this info video is one of the best I ever seen well done and thanks Bill
Men you save me I have a Renault Megane classic 1.4 8v 1997 4doors stage one and I recently change tires and my tire rear right was make the same sound like yours I like your explanation you gain a subscriber greetings from Greece an Albanian guy
Glad the video was helpful Christos! Thanks
Very helpful! Friend of mine has a '15 Elantra that's making a rear wheel noise, so here I am. This helps though I know what to look for now.
Not all heros wear capes. 👍
This is an extremely helpful video ! Thanks !
@@bastanteya glad to hear!
That was helpful because I have an occasional sound that may be from a tire. Having it checked tomorrow.
10:04 if you watch my video on why it’s so important that all wheel drive vehicles have the same tread depth
What’s the link to that video? You should have dropped a link card in your RUclips video editor. I’ll see if I can find it.
Good idea, here is the link to the AWD video: ruclips.net/video/2T8YrR0vDiQ/видео.htmlsi=3uaXR0gZ1KPHMihj
8:37 When you compare "small" dB changes you have to remember that the sound energy doubles every 3 dB. Humans do not interpret 3 dB difference that loud in most cases, though. Most humans call +10 dB about double as loud when in reality it's over 8x as loud on linear scale.
And if you want to understand better why tire or bearing noise is so easy to hear even though a general purpose sound meter doesn't show a big difference, look at the spectrogram. General purpose sound meters average all frequencies and narrow band louder noise gets averaged with near silence on other frequencies. If you have an Android phone, an app called "Spectroid" is really good to see narrow peaks in sound frequency spectrum. Some irritating noise has often pretty narrow peak but the peak sound level may be pretty high compared to the environment.
Best explanation on RUclips
Thanks for the video. Man my current tires on my car are so loud that I felt like I needed wheel bearings lol. It drives me crazy to the point where I feel like doing as many burnouts as I can to spread them and getting a new set of better more quiet tires.
I smell what you are stepping in. New tires are expensive but worth it. Smoother and quieter.
You earned a sub with your use of bababooey. Thank you for the advice as well!
And Tahtah toothy to yah.
That's some great advice on troubleshooting
Thanks -Ozz
Great video! I'm trying to diagnose a whump sound which speeds up as I speed up. I'm at a loss right now.
Check those tires J!
Awsome video.
Your the first person that I finish a video
Nice!
Good video. Honestly I could see the cupped part of the tread against the white wall in background, no hose needed.
You see the light! Thanks for watching.
Thank u …. U explained perfectly…. U swerve right and left bearing gets louder.
Great video bro 👍
I appreciate your comment Alpha!
You helped a lot! Like a lot a lot! Described everything very well, and you were on the dot with the noise examples man, fixed my confusion thank you.
Excellent!
Thank you for the noise test…it sounds just like my son’s 2011 Toyota Camry left front wheel..I’ll be changing the tire to be sure…
Let us know how it goes.
@@ozzstars_cars Unfortunately it was not the tire...we'll be checking wheel bearing and cv's next.
Great video sir. I have the same experience on my daughters car. Turn left and it was growling at driver side at low speed. I jacked it up and did the 126 grab, sure enough it was bearing. Thank you for sharing.
Alrighty so I have a quick question about that. So when I turn left it starts the rattle but when my foot is pushing on the break petal, the noise quiets. Does this sound like the same scenario that happen with your daughters car?
Thanks Glen...needed that demo to see its my front-wheel drive tire after tire rotation making Who whoa noise.
You're welcome!