I wish they went an episodic twilight zone route where each character would have 1 or 2 eps, win the episode get their genies wish and then rotate to a new winner
I feel like that's the only way a Twisted Metal TV show could work. The problem with a tournament-based show is that it doesn't work if characters are introduced and killed off in the same episode. People can't root for characters to win if they don't last for a few episodes for us the audience to connect with the characters. Therefore, people really wouldn't care about the characters that much. A lot of tournament style shows are competitive sports like Ninja Warrior or drama-centric reality shows like Big Brother, and Twisted Metal is neither.
@@CassandraPantaristiI think it can if every episode or number of episodes is its own kind of thing, just like love death + robots, or the concept of what if but with the same theme, that is TWISTED METAL.
It would be cool if they sort of did that but intertwine each character at the beginning & then roll it out from there. Have them cross paths which each other in their own respective stories which each one dying in some poetic fashion until they get to the end of the season to show who the winner of the tournament is. It would at least keep people guessing until the end while also feeling each character could be the protagonist. TLDR: Like what Twisted Metal 2012 tried to do.
Twisted Metal's story *does* have an advantage: the story can be rebooted as many times as the writers want -- thanks to Calypso's power to grant any wish a winner desires. So with that, this could very well start the original storyline at any point in time for whatever reason. All you need is a character to win a TM contest. The story can basically be anything and still fit in the Twisted Metal universe as long as they keep Calypso and the Twisted Metal contest. Or at the very least, Calypso's ring of power.
@@Legba85 The contest doesn't have to be introduced right away, that's more on the delivery for the gameplay. Then all you need is Calypso's ring of power then you can put it back on track at any point. Not even Twisted Metal 1 (ps1) was the first Twisted Metal. The story explains that there were 10 contests before it so this could very well be how everything started. Even the current synopsis still works. David Jaffe himself said that one of the earliest ideas for Twisted Metal was to make it a game about delivering packages from point A to B. And that's literally John Doe's purpose in this story. Aside from that various characters from the game exist in the show too along with Sweet Tooth.
@@Misty25939 have they said Calypso is going to be featured, although he is absolutely essential to anyone who cares, they don't and cutting him out might give them the chance to leave out the supernatural element. The supernatural stuff is also essential, again- not that may care, but I sort of fear where they might go with the supernatural stuff if they lean too far into it.
@@youknowme7797 I don't really know that far or where they plan to go with the show. I'm just saying that the Twisted Metal universe is actually very flexible when it comes to adding anything new. It could also be that this takes place after the video games so who knows what's going to happen.
i want to hope that the mysterious person John is heading to is actually Calypso, and this is sorta like his “Qualification” and at the end of the season, Calypso invites him to the contest. or maybe having characters like Agent Stone and Raven as well would lead to a “Team Contest” Team Calypso vs Team John Doe but only one way to know, and that’s to watch the show
I would bet money that this mysterious person is Calypso, either that or the plot line gets dropped or becomes secondary to some bigger plot. Assuming it remains super important who else could it be? It's not going to be Sweet tooth.
I was thinking they’d probably set the world up with season one and ends with an introduction to Calypso. The world in the TM show is called the Divided States of America and Id imagine Calypso wanting to unite it all again and “make it great again” via the contest
Twisted Metal 1 had the best template for a story. A mysterious cult leader leading an underground tournament of misfits. The time period led to some cyberpunk vibes too. Could’ve been a dystopian future (but not post apocalypse) with Calypso being a false messiah.
a false messiah who may or may not have powers granted to him by the Devil. The show would keep it largely ambiguous for the season until the finale pretty much gives us confirmation.
You know, with the way you described it all. I can see why this could be great or it could be trash. Also, I kinda hope they go the fantastical route with the show where we actually have a grim reaper, devils, satan, ghosts and people with their head on fire. That'll give it some character from the typical Post Apocalyptic setting for sure. That and I hope the dark comedy is retained as well; I'm kinda getting Evil Dead vibes and Deadpool based on the teaser.
Highly doubt they will, it's going to be Mad Max but with a low budget with little or no connection to the game's story. I doubt it will even have a tournament.
@@pharmcat8484 Off-topic, that's one of the only few Deadpool villains that I actually like. Too bad that the Marvel writers and execs think that Evil Deadpool compared to Deadpool is like Hsu Hao compared to Kano in Mortal Kombat.😔
I feel like instead of greenlighting a tv series, they could have first produced a series of shortfilms to A: guage fan interest in a series, and B: established context for what this world looks like in terms if being a Twisted Metal adaptation. All the same I feel confident in saying I'm likely going ti watch it regardless because this is a franchise that derserves better than to have been ignored for 10 years. If even a medicore project brings TM into the public eye again, I'm all for it.
While I fully agree with you, the problem with that is that it would never happen in this economy. These studios hardly want to pay writers what they deserve (residuals) and even hire them in the first place to keep a show going so producing film shorts like that would be entirely out of the question. If they can match what happened in TM 2012 then it's all good.
Kind of like the animated teaser Black had. That showed some characters in a more day to day situation instead of in the tournement. That could work. Honestly if the show goes about John Doe bumping into various would be contestants so everyone got a feel for them. And without them necessarily having to die right away. Then it could easily roll into a season 2 tournament arc. But honestly I don't think aiming for a season 2 would be the right move.
Having Joe be the body and Will Arnet be the voice is actually a really cool idea, means we could get a very similar portrayal as Black, which seems like the main touchstone of the writing team, given the character choices, which is a very weird thing given its arguably the most horrifying of the games yet they are opting for comedy
I believe this will have more than one tone set for the show, like in games One is more silly one is more dark and I think blending both worlds can be interesting if done right
I honestly don't think we're gonna get too much closer than the Death Race movies as far as a live action "Twisted Metal" movie or series. The main gripe I have as of right now is if Sweet tooth is gonna be the main antagonist. Then why isn't Marcus Kain the main character?
Probably thought that any twist they could have with Marcus would be too obvious. It's like how in the Batman: Hush adaptation everyone who cared knew about the twist of who Hush was, so they changed it to The Riddler, which is just kinda dumb and just got dumber when The Riddler had to give a big explanation for why it was possible.
I can't believe I never made that connection in death race 2 when I watched it. It bugged the hell out of me when I saw that movie and the crime boss was named Marcus Kane..
I remember the trailer for twisted metal 2, the "calypso what have you done? What have you done!?" That one, new York was pretty f'd up, then he set his sights on the world, of he did yo the world what he did to new York, icould understand the world looking post apocalyptic
@@Hitomora Honestly this is giving a bigger feeling of being Death Race vs Mad Max. Mad Max ultimately is about Max surviving and having guilt over his wife and daughter dying. Death Race on the other hand is more about the event itself, and the players don't matter ultimately.
The worst they can do is make this just a Twisted Metal show in name only. It's fine is they change a few things but they'll need to extract what makes a Twisted Metal game and put some of it in the show, and I don't just mean cars having guns.
well what made twisted metal the most memorable and enjoyed was being a fucking playable video game lmao. seems difficult to bring entertainment to a bunch of gamers with exclusively trash cutscenes on offer with zero actual gameplay. but. maybe they want a brand new fanbase. cuz they sure asf arent pursuing the gamers that were fans of the games.
The whole John Doe thing, honestly, I'm kind of happy they went with this. John Doe is in name still a familiar character but yet pretty much a clean slate kind of person to go in whatever direction they want, and include others with more complex backgrounds around him.
Probably a bit of development hell was involved. Heck, it was probably around the time when streaming shows wasn't as popular at this time. It was either cable tv, direct to video, a web series, or a multi-movie franchise.
I'm surprised they didn't go for something akin to the Death Race reboot, a dark web streaming show where millionaires bet on a tournament filled with wacky characters and the protagionist blackmailed into entering.
I was looking forward to your video about this series, it's a very tricky IP to adapt to series/movies. My ideal adaptation for Twisted Metal would be an anthology series on which we would get one episode per character, it would basically be like you're playing the arcade mode choosing which character you wanna see victorious. And on every episode we would get a glimpse of Sweet Tooth's backstory and the final chapter of the first season would be about him becoming the canonical winner of this first season, being the only one left alive for the next one. I pretty much agree with you on everything you said here, I'm very curious how they gonna introduce the mystical side of the games, like Calypso being this god/devil that can do anything the winner desires. I just hope they don't ruin Sweet Tooth with too much humor. I'm currently playing TM Black again and damn, Sweet Tooth is relentless in that game, I hope they can keep him like that.
I think my problem with series like The Last of Us and the upcoming God of War series is that they feel like extremely safe bets used to milk an already successful product, not helped by the fact that the source material they adapt is already like a movie or tv show with how the story is presented (you know, the kind of thing gamers tend to deride as Hollywood Oscar bait) just with gameplay segments, kinda like when people upload the games's cutscenes and call it a "movie." Which honestly makes statements like "The Least of Us has finally broken the bad videogame adaptation curse" feel extremely hollow in my opinion. To me, videogame adaptations of games that often thought to be impossible to adapt because they rely too much on gameplay or they don't have exactly the deepest story and characters are way more interesting and entertaining because of how the people making them tried to make a movie out of said games. It's the reason why I've always been fascinated with live-action movies like Super Mario Bros., Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat and the like, they just took a lot of risks and made so many changes to the source material while also being rather faithful in some areas and also have so many crazy memorable things about them because of that. I think a Twisted Metal series intrigues me more than a Last of Us series because of how "unadaptable" the games are and thus it has more chances to either be really fun and entertaining or a complete trainwreck that's riped for memes.
The first Mario movie & the Street Fighter movie are very fascinating failures, if nothing else. i stand by the first Mortal Kombat film as a B-movie done right - it knows what it wants to achieve and nails it for the most part (aside from Scorpion & Sub-Zero being jobbed out so quickly). Even the Double Dragon movie has its defenders these days, in that "fun kind of bad" way!
Well the point of adapting narrative heavy games like last of us or recent god of war is to share the story with audiences that dont play games. It also helps those people see that games can actually have strong stories in the same way shows, movies and books do. I personally dontcare about watching an adaptation of a stoy game ive played. Never even glanced at last of us I beat the game and watching the show will never come close to how it feels to take part in the stoy yourself but im glad it did good.
Show made me love the series again and your videos helped a lot in refreshing myself on the lore and the hidden lore. Cant wait for season 2, which I hope happens 😭
@@valutaatoaofunknownelement197 The original death race was Carmageddon, (So much that the developers of Carmageddon tried to get the rights to death race), whereas the 2008 one was more like twisted metal since the competitors shooting each other was the whole point.
In defense of John Doe being the main protagonist, he is the driver of Roadkill and in TM2 and TM Head-On the driver of Roadkill is implied to be the main character because of the possibility that the whole series is going on in his head. Also, five bucks says John Doe is delivering the package to Calypso
What? John Doe is ONE of the drivers of Roadkill, and there's been multiple John Doe's. The first driver was a cop, then Marcus Kane was the driver for one or two games, THEN John Doe was a driver for one game until he "wins", then after that ANOTHER John Doe takes his place where "John Doe's" are actually cops. Saying "he is the driver of Roadkill" is pretty disingenuous especially considering -spoiler below- he fuckin' dies.
@@stormwolf5848 In the sense we follow the delivery boy? No. Though two of the characters (Crimson Fury and Warthog) are in the tournament wanting to obtain a missing black box that proves ailens exist. So that's kind of close at least. Meanwhile, TM1's road kill was a solider wanting to go back to the past to keep his squad from dying (only to be wasted this time). But I think that's the only time someone wished to time travel (Twister does so accidently).
A vigilante 8 tv show would have been a much easier adaptation since you have two opposing factions skirmishing over objectives and resources instead of just a tournament to the death.
Update it to take place in the 1980s, (Vigilante80s!) and even tie in the Interstate 'verse to it somehow, and you have a deal. My choice for Skeeter? Mojo Nixon.
Yeah, Vigilante 8 (especially with Interstate 76 to pull from) would be way easier to adapt. Both games have a "Canon" story and who wins and looses. And hell, due to the setting it doesn't even need to be the regular cast. Could be an entire other group of Vigilante's against OMAR backed terrorists. Or a lone sole survivor of a big skirmish between the two trying to make it back to safety, but still having to fight the occasional stray. But, if Twisted Metal is kind of lacking brand recognition then V8 is virtually unknown. Plus TM is Sony's and they're on this film kick.
I don't remember the games getting a lot of promotion after Black, aside from Small Brawl being pushed at Blockbuster. Main thing was that the games were always pretty brutal and dark, but never really generated controversy like something like Manhunt did, so it was controversial enough to deter places from advertising it and retail stores from stocking it, but not controversial enough to benefit from the controversy.
Having seen the series now, and not having high hopes after seeing how all the other adaptations have gone, I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. There's plenty of references from nearly all the games: locations, character names, and cars. Though it doesn't follow the set-up of any of the games, and there's a fair number of character changes to fit into an original storyline, it does set up Calypso's tournament for season 2. I'm actually eager to see what they do with it, if the writers and actors strikes don't kill the second season.
I don't know if I'd say I'm "cautiously optimistic" as much as I'm just cautious, myself. It kind of ping-pongs for me. I really, really, REALLY hope this show turns out to be good. It doesn't even need to follow Twisted Metal to the absolute letter. I just want it to be engaging and capture the "spirit" of Twisted Metal. We haven't had a game since 2012, and I just... REALLY want this to be good. Anyway, addressing one thing. I actually like the idea of John Doe as a main character, and I sort of disagree with your point. The thing that made him interesting in Black wasn't the reveal he was an FBI agent, seeing his "true character" for 20 seconds before being killed. He was engaging because he was a blank slate who went through tons of mental anguish due to his amnesia. He only had tattoos and flashing memories to go off of, and there were a number of possibilities in the air as to who he could be. This tormented him, leading to violent outbursts and the like, and it became his core motive behind participating in that deranged tournament. THAT was his character. Not the FBI agent, but the tormented amnesiac. In a series like Twisted Metal where basically EVERYONE is "the main character," who exactly would you star as the main character in a TV series? The always-chaotic-evil Sweet Tooth? That would be cool, but it'd get boring in a hurry. Too much of a good thing. How about Jamie and/or Carl Roberts in Outlaw? I'd say the motive of stopping the chaos is too basic, specific, and straightforward. So why not introduce a "blank slate" character in the form of John Doe, with a motive as interesting, tantalizing, and mysterious as "delivering a special package?" Someone who would not only have a potentially interesting character/story through the amnesia angle, but he'd also be someone who is introduced to the crazy world of Twisted Metal alongside the audience, all while referencing something Twisted Metal-related. Another thing I'd like to put my two cents towards... The post-apocalyptic setting worries me a little. It could work. It's a fitting setting for cars going dakka-dakka-kaboom. However, a big part of the charm of Twisted Metal comes from the fact that these tournaments are taking place in populated areas. These competitors are not only killing each other, but there's tons of collateral damage in the process. Even Small Brawl captured this, wreaking havoc and destroying everyday-places. A lot of hardcore TM fans probably know there was actually a scrapped concept literally called "Twisted Metal: Apocalypse." The reason it got scrapped to begin with was because one of the leads "wasn't really feeling it." When you have a setting that not only clashes with what TM's always been, but it's a setting one of the leads *straight up did not like in the past,* that's a tad concerning, I think. But it could work. I love stuff like Mad Max, so I'm staying open-minded. Who knows? Maybe this was done on purpose and is some clever way to revive that idea. But this is the TV/movie industry. Lol. I won't give them that much credit, yet. Anyway, good video! Left a like. I'm definitely eager to see this show. And if it turns out to be bad, I absolutely cannot wait to see you shred it to pieces. Don't hold back if that ends up being the case, TBP. :)
Good points. Especially about how John can grow and we learn along with him about how things are. Like how exactly did the world get fucked over. As well as keeping Sweet Tooth as a Sometimes food, not the main course. And as for the Apocalypse setting, I get why the show would prefer it (mass slaughter of innocents is kinda tricky to pull off, especially for a low budget TV show). But Twisted Metal always kind of felt like YOU were the apocalypse, the world IS ending and it will be by you and the other contestants hands trying to claim your prize. And just from what we know, this has more of a Death Race feel then Mad Max.
My only concern is whether Sweet Tooth would be suitably thicc, but considering he's being physically portrayed by Samoa Joe, I think that particular aspect is well in hand.
I hope they get super weird with it, I am hoping that we get an Anthology series that has a focus on different tournaments every few episodes and the wish made from the winner alters the world for the next few episodes and the next tournament I will also settle for a Whacky Racers style show lol
The teaser definitely makes it feel like Mad Max with a Twisted Metal paint job. Hopefully they have more from the games than just a couple names. I've been a fan of this series since 2 released. I've wanted a TM movie for pretty much the entire time I've known about the games. I actually, for a moment thought we were getting one when they rebooted Death Race. That trailer looked more like TM than DR2000, especially with the armored cars and semi truck. But then they said a character name or showed the title, and I was disappointed. I don't know, I'm kind of rambling here. I just hope that it's good.
It probably would’ve been smart to just have every episode used as a setup. For each character from the game. Give their origins and reason to why they would join the tournament. In each episode would focus on one character. Every episode ends with them meeting Calypso. Then the final episodes of each seasons should be the tournament. Sorta like Mortal Kombat legacy. But with a bigger budget and a flash out story.
This right here absolutely makes the most sense. It also gives everyone a character to root for when the tournament kicks off. With the type of narrative they chose it just instantly gives you a set main protag which just isn't as interesting at all. It could have been a really unique shorts story situation that all culminates into one big final narrative but instead they went with the easiest and most generic option.
Honestly the fun thing about Twisted Metal is that almost every entry was their own thing with the few games that have an actual overarching plotline can be counted on one hand. Also looking at Samoa Joe who's gonna be the body is pretty nice because he's definitely got the perfect physique to play the modern and iconic SweetTooth/Needles Kane.
I think there's a lot of potential for this series especially if there's going to be a lot of competitive spirit and motivation behind all the characters so that they could have their wishes granted. I hope the spirit of Calypso twisting everyone's wishes and desires to be fulfilled is going to be part of the show but it makes me wonder how They will balance conflict and resolution within the show. I also wonder if they will dedicate an entire season or show to the premise of sweet tooth imagining the entire tournament or if it's going to be like the show St Elsewhere where the entire series is based on something that was in his head. There's so much potential based on how many characters are in all of the games and how they can utilize them.
Sadly I could easily see them pulling the "It's all in sweet tooth's head" thing black did, but in a much more ham fisted fashion. Like "Don't worry, the world isn't destroyed, it's just how Sweet Tooth sees it from his padded cell".
The closest Ive seen to adapt car combat to where it was pretty fun and refreshing at the time was Death Race 1. If twisted metal tv series can match that kind of action if not more id be all for this.
"Steal My Sunshine" being the theme song of the trailer scares me because it makes me think it'll be a show for non-fans full of memes and/or "relatable" humor". Here's to hoping it won't have any "Zootopia" jokes in it.
The problem with a tournament-based show is that it doesn't work if characters are introduced and killed off in the same episode. People can't root for characters to win if they don't last for a few episodes for us the audience to connect with the characters. Therefore, people really wouldn't care about the characters that much. A lot of tournament style shows are competitive sports like Ninja Warrior or drama-centric reality shows like Big Brother, and Twisted Metal is neither.
I think the "Anthology" format would be a much better choice than following just one character through the whole thing, especially just "John Doe" like if it was Axel or some other long standing character that fans have an attachment to, then MAYBE it would be better. IDK as long as they don't cram a bunch of "Diversity" and "Representation" into it, I'll give it a chance.
"taking an established IP and just using it to sell what would otherwise be an unremarkable experience" - this is *exactly* what happened with the first Super Mario Bros. movie, if anyone doesn't know! It originally had a much different script that was more true to the games, then the directors hijacked the whole project and turned it into a vehicle for their "Blade Runner but with DINOSAURS!" script that had gotten rejected all over Hollywood on its own. So yeah, that's a pretty accurate worst-case scenario for this imo Samoa Joe being involved gives me some hope though, as that's rather outside-the-box casting and a brilliant choice!
Yeah, Blood Drive seems more like the basis for this show then twisted metal. But since you're the first person I've seen mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if they got the TM name just for some brand recognition.
The series needs dialogue, build up, suspense, and they want the characters to have depth. If it were all car action it's just be a lower budget series that would resemble the latter death race movies
I wish this show was based around Sweet Tooth entering the tournament and following him thru the end to meeting Calypso but instead it’s not and they ruined it
A route they could go is season one "John Doe" does the whole drive across the badlands 2deliver said package. At the end of season 1 turns out its Calypso hes delivering to and its just some bullshit trinket he tosses aside and says the real test was getting here and he asks John to join the tournament. Season 2 is focused on classic style Twisted Metal Tournament and near the end John starts remembering who he really is (some type of undercover agent) and his goal is to kill Calypso, then go from there
I wanted something like this years ago. In my head I built it up like this: Season 1 would focus on Calypso and Outlaw with Calypso being a crime lord. Other characters could get some spotlight as you see how they cross over in parts of the main story (think Sin City). Calypso dies in an explosion during a confrontation with Outlaw (hence the messed up face) and while in hell, learns of the power Minion's ring holds. He chalanges Minion for it and he accepts by proposing combat using vehicles. Calypso wins, uses the ring to return to earth, then inspired by his battle with Minion, gets the word out about the Twisted Metal tournament he will be hosting. Season 2 would simply be about the various characters and their reasons for wanting Calypso's prize of any one wish granted. Possibly with Calypso creating Sweet Tooth as his attempt to rig the tournament. The idea that Sweet Tooth would win, allowing Calypso to collect the souls of the fallen without the risk of granting a wish to a possible winner who means to stop him (aka Outlaw). Season 3 would fall more in line with Twisted Metal Black as Calypso tries to find people crazy enough to do another tournament. The asylum would have newer characters that Black introduced, but could have characters return as residents that lost in the last tournament but weren't killed. Just before the tournament, Minion arives on earth and anounces that he will enter so he can retrieve his ring as his prize. This forces Calypso to enter the tournament as well in order to prevent Minion from winning. I don't know how this would end since i never wrote out a story or anything. These were what i would think about off and on years back. It's no masterpiece of an idea, but since a show really is happening, I just wanted to get my thoughts out there. Thank you to anyone who actually took the time to read this. I know long posts aren't the most fun things to read at times.
Honestly, I’m not even bothering until we hear about Calypso. Having Twisted Metal without Calypso is like having Mortal Kombat without Scorpion, or Smash Bros without Master Hand.
I love the justification you have for Samoa Joe as Needles Kane/Sweet Tooth. "He's a good choice because big boi lol" I agree. But I'm curious why Will Arnett needs to voice him, and what he's gonna do with the character. Nothing against Will Arnett, I love him in what I've seen him in, but I wonder if Samoa Joe couldn't act very well or something, so they're dubbing him over?
I know this isn't the topic, but what was your guy's favorite Calypso? mine was honestly the 2012 version, I liked his face, his voice, and the way he acted (especially in some of the cut endings) and I honestly kinda want him back
I do like 2012 Calypso, he's done pretty well and has great voice acting. Definitely has huge villain vibes. Personally... probably TM2 Calypso? The burned face design gives him the perfect balance between 'normal dude' and villain. Something about the voice acting he has and the writing if the endings give him the perfect smug, wish twisting energy (e.g. Warthog's ending) without steering into straight up "how can I ruin this person's wish for the fun of it" and knowing when is best to just give someone their wish (best example: Axel's ending and how he just gives him what he wants, no twist). Plus that smile at the end as he thanks me for playing Twisted Metal is wonderful.
Same, but honestly, I just love the OG Twisted Metal Lost ending version of Calypso. He's just ridiculously entertaining. Probably TW2 Calypso, he's just the top of Calypso's of all time.
Honestly yeah 2012 Calypso was great the moment that convo about Christmas happens between him and Needles. I immediately see him as a great choice if they decided to rez the game series again
Four words: _Mortal Kombat,_ and _Blood Drive._ The '90s _Mortal Kombat_ movie took a game with a very similar mission structure to _Twisted Metal_ (a series of fights to the death as part of a tournament) and basically did a remake of _Bloodsport_ with more influence from urban fantasy and Hong Kong martial arts movies, rather appropriately given how much of a debt the games owe to _Bloodsport._ Barring the PG-13 rating, it proved surprisingly faithful to the spirit of the source material. _Blood Drive,_ meanwhile, was a SyFy original series that's probably the best _Twisted Metal_ TV show made up to this point, from the colorful cast of characters and vehicles to the main villain being pretty much a lawyer-friendly version of Calypso, to the point that I think the only reason nobody involved with the show got sued was because they made the main tournament a Cannonball Run with guns instead of a deathmatch. I think the best way to adapt _Twisted Metal_ would be to, oddly enough, go the route of the 2012 video game and only focus on a few contestants as our main characters. A troubled yet sympathetic figure who entered with good intentions, somebody who wants to stop Calypso, somebody with a "dark" motive like revenge or greed, Needles Kane as the big heavy who's built up as the main bad guy out on the battlefield, and some character development for Calypso himself and the people around him. It would still have a lot of competitors like the older games, but most of them would be either one-episode villains or supporting characters who are there to get killed off. The final episodes have our main characters face off against each other, with the last one standing claiming their prize and getting it granted in a manner straight out of _The Twilight Zone._ Calypso thanks us for watching _Twisted Metal,_ roll credits, have a post-credits scene showing that Needles Kane cheated death so you can bring him back for season two.
a story using Twisted metal A Courier delivers to a client "calypso" a Item the item has been absorbing the dead John doe has killed and when Calypso has the item ..he has "Black" ((the Demon introduced in TM1))
I’m cautiously optimistic because it’s been a decade since something came out of the series and I’m excited we’re getting something new, but also worried that if the show is bad it would just put Twisted Metal into another long hiatus. Hopefully the show is at the very least decent.
Haven't finished the video but came here to say the show is awesome and I'm already hyped for season 2 Take my opinion with a grain of salt because I've never actually played any of the games(my only knowledge of TM is sweet tooth in all stars and I've never even played it) but i would still recommend it
Twisted Metal Black could be a TV series. Each episode shows the lives of a character right up to entering the tournament. Flesh out their backstory and cut between the current action & flashbacks.
The cut to the Steiner clip was a 10/10 edit. Makes me laugh every time. Also Samoa Joe rules, but they also should've had him voice Sweet Tooth. Joe is terrifying!
Obviously as a standard tournament format a TV show is a bit of a problem, but I figured a fix for this was like, do it like a battle royal tournament of sorts? Like about 100 cars, most being meat for the fire but with the classic characaters peppered inbetween. You have the thing happen in rounds, so round one is in Los Angeles between all 100 cars until 50 are left, then 50 into whatever other location they chose, 25, then 10 until only one is left, who then fights Minion who won the tournament before. Of course this bring a number of problems, like how do you go about Marcus and Needles? Who wins the thing? How does Calypso twist the wish whilst also leaving room for possible other season, if there are any? Also 100 cars is gonna be hard to deal with visually and like, budget wise. Overall Twisted Metal getting an adaptation is just...weird. TloU worked cause, well, the games already work as movies to an extent. Twisted Metal doesn't even have a clear canon, so that is just odd.
I want this to be good. I was a huge fan of twisted metal back in the day. Fell off around the release of twisted metal black. Hoping for the best but won’t be surprised if it turns out bad
Oh, I just had a rather terrifying idea. What if the twist is that the story wasn't actually post-apocalyptic, and John Doe was actually Marcus Kane trying to cope with the fact that he's actually all alone in Sweet tooth head, save for the few memories of the other drivers he killed?
This can only work if every episode foucuses on a new character. Show their backstory, have them win the tournament and get their wish, but they get screwed over in the end and either die or get their lives ruined. Maybe connect some characters' backstories together, but keep the plot purely episodic.
Anthony Mackie is a badass actor so that's definitely a mark in the shows favor. I remember him in The Hurt Locker and Half Nelson, and along with the Marvel movies the man has serious range. It'll be interesting to see if he gets to flex his skills in a show based on a game with very little story. They will have to get really creative with how the do the plot, which I hope they manage to somehow add their own ideas while also fleshing out some of the characters so it feels like Twisted Metal and isn't just another Death Race.
so my thing with this show that everyone is taking away from this is that the fact that this series gives producers and screen writers the building blocks to make a great story people are so hung up on accuracy, which is the wrong approach there is no set story for this game its all basically reboots hell Black is just the tournament from sweet tooth’s perspective. 2012 is the only game with a decent story line imo but the lack of content from the trailer makes me more excited to see what they have in store.
Idk I think that it’s pretty sick 🤷🏻♂️ as someone that grew up playing the games heavy it did it in the best way I think it could have been done. Saw it advertised and was like no way I’m watching that, gave it a shot and loved it.
This was an extremely well made video. You called into question a lot potential issues the show could have, gave some solutions, and even got a lot of them correct. Good analysis
My dream was twisted metal black being character driven show. Intro episode at asylum and final episode being final match. Each other episdoe was one character entering tournament and seeing there lead up to the final battle. Kill off minor characters from weaker games in a car battle before the set up for the final battle. Have sweet tooth show up in every story until 2nd final episode where it tells his back story and set up the final episode where we are all routing for a different character. Set up fans routing for different episodes and build up hype for the series finale.
I saw the description and realised that this was a post apocalyptic show with a Twisted Metal coat of paint. 😅 Similar as to how they have a movie idea and just put in the title or a character from the franchise to justify the use of the lisence.
My theory as to how twisted metal could have worked in a movie adaptation is to do a standalone film about the top nine favorite characters and then the final film be the tournament where everybody meets up and essentially it becomes a last Man standing scenario to meet Calypso in order for him to grant you your wish with the twisted word mindset that he always has portrayed
Honestly I must say I am looking forward to it and if I may here's a potential plot idea that could utilize the tournament what if instead of the typical you all fight you get a wish old John Doe is hired to deliver the package and whoever gets the package to who I would hope to assume is Calypso gets the wish hence why all the potential raiders and hopefully great characters from the franchise are chasing him so anyone can bring the package but he is the delivery boys who starts with it
I'm semi excited for the show, I didn't play the games much but do have some nostalgia for the series. I think that they're doing a post-apocalypse to kind of set-up that this isn't the first tournament and if there was a tournament like this it would be very destructive. I personally think that if they're setting it up that John Doe is delivering a package, that he's delivering it to Calypso. That Calypso or someone for Calypso is doing it to get John Doe into the tournament.
I had a coworker tell me about this & it got me thinking that it could be more of a story wrapped around Sweet Tooth, but after watching this I like the idea of the multiple gangs revolving around other main characters from the games themselves makes me intrigued.
This is the problem with MOST video game adaptations… TLOU worked because the game is basically a TV series or really long movie that you control… it was already an incredible story and easy to translate. Most games are only fun because you’re in control and doing fun things… Assassins Creed games are fun because you do parkour, assassinate fools and go on cool adventures… no one even knows what the damn story is about! My sister has played every single one and I asked her one day recently what the story actually is about and she’s like “Templars… some magic apples or something? I dunno.” Lmao she has platinum on like 4 of those games. I can name every character in The Last of Us, I can remember their faces when they died and how it made me feel, I can remember the menu music and the ending scene with Ellie touching the grass outside the house…. It’s burned into my brain because it was a great story experience. I remember other games because I defeated a difficult boss, or I did something really cool like blowing up ten cars with one grenade or something… even my favorite games… I remember the experience of play the game, not the story. I remember Twisted Metal because me and my best friend sat on the floor in the middle of the night at sleepovers playing and blowing shit up… I didn’t even think Twisted Metal had a story! I assumed the story was “cars go vroom, cars go boom.” Lol Very few games are compatible with TV/Movie adaptation and Twisted Metal is about as far as it gets!
Adapting the tournament on TV would be difficult. In the game you can pick any character and see what would happen if they win and there's no canonical winner. I don't think that would fly with TV. So you'd establish all these characters pick one to be the winner and kill all the others and then have to do all that again next tournament re establishing a bunch of new characters keeping only Calypso and the previous year's winner.
Just wait until you see that they have Raven act as the Calypso. They seem to have the "bosses" own their area. At least the updated trailer has the purple hearse in it.
I’ve played a few of the twisted metal games and a clone of it called carmageddon that was also on the ps1. The hype was funny seeing Anthony Mackie head bag to 1999/00 song LEN steal my sunshine. If they don’t have calypso as either the end villain or watching everywhere than it probably won’t work. Because you need a good villain to make the other half of the story work. You have neve Campbell and Thomas Hayden Church as actors and I honestly haven’t seen anything of Neve Campbell work since the 90’s. Thomas Hayden Church was in the Spider-Man move no way home and really just a call back actor. Before Spider-Man 3 I hadn’t seen anything of him since 90’s tv show Ned & Stacy. I liked peacocks show Wolf like me the actors were great Elsa Fischer was hot and Josh Gadd typecast as the bumbling clod who’s clueless as to things and lacking in self confidence but a big heart. The story was easy to follow and the hopeless pudgy father played by gadd ends up with a hottie and gets laid and fathers a child who will likely be half werewolf when it’s born it really needs a season 2 since the episode 6 ending was a happy one. Comedy sells but a decent story helps, I was not impressed by the fresh Prince reboot. Twisted metal might end up just a one hit wonder, halo was given a tv series and a few movies which did fair. Dead Rising made 2 movies that first aired on crackle and it was ok not great or not notch. It’s about who makes a good story, and story and script matters. Mad max tropes are likely open mind either way.
The big thing that throws me off is still John Doe. Why not follow Carl and Jamie Roberts? Especially if season 1 isn't just a sweet tooth fever dream (Ala TM:Black) I have two working theories on the show, one i just mentioned being that the first season of the show is in a similar story telling style to TM: Black (IE an unreliable narrator via not only Sweet tooth, but even John Doe himself.) The second leading theory? John Doe is going to die in the first episode and that's how we get the perspective of each character. Either how they die, or when they quit until we reach the victor. (If they even bother with the tournament in S1)
Side theory I forgot about but I think rather than prolong what gave John Doe his amnesia will be revealed to us at the beginning of the show. The song in the trailer could have alot more meaning than people think. Steal my Sunshine's lyrics could spell out exactly what he lost aside from his memories
Sweet Tooth should not be a part of any group. He should work alone, be kept mysterious, and be the show's boogeyman. Also, I never realized how good of a casting Samoa Joe potentially might be for Sweet Tooth. lol As for the show's premise, it feels and looks more like Quarantine than Twisted Metal... But adapting a television show about a fantastical tournament would be very difficult, so some changes would definitely need to be made to make a tv series.
I wish they went an episodic twilight zone route where each character would have 1 or 2 eps, win the episode get their genies wish and then rotate to a new winner
That would be interesting
I feel like that's the only way a Twisted Metal TV show could work. The problem with a tournament-based show is that it doesn't work if characters are introduced and killed off in the same episode. People can't root for characters to win if they don't last for a few episodes for us the audience to connect with the characters. Therefore, people really wouldn't care about the characters that much. A lot of tournament style shows are competitive sports like Ninja Warrior or drama-centric reality shows like Big Brother, and Twisted Metal is neither.
@@CassandraPantaristiI think it can if every episode or number of episodes is its own kind of thing, just like love death + robots, or the concept of what if but with the same theme, that is TWISTED METAL.
@@RomanBellic-ez5fh Hmm interesting.
It would be cool if they sort of did that but intertwine each character at the beginning & then roll it out from there. Have them cross paths which each other in their own respective stories which each one dying in some poetic fashion until they get to the end of the season to show who the winner of the tournament is. It would at least keep people guessing until the end while also feeling each character could be the protagonist.
TLDR: Like what Twisted Metal 2012 tried to do.
Twisted Metal's story *does* have an advantage: the story can be rebooted as many times as the writers want -- thanks to Calypso's power to grant any wish a winner desires. So with that, this could very well start the original storyline at any point in time for whatever reason. All you need is a character to win a TM contest. The story can basically be anything and still fit in the Twisted Metal universe as long as they keep Calypso and the Twisted Metal contest. Or at the very least, Calypso's ring of power.
This show won’t have the contest. Based on the data I’ve seen, it isn’t with the same elements of the game.
@@Legba85 The contest doesn't have to be introduced right away, that's more on the delivery for the gameplay. Then all you need is Calypso's ring of power then you can put it back on track at any point.
Not even Twisted Metal 1 (ps1) was the first Twisted Metal. The story explains that there were 10 contests before it so this could very well be how everything started.
Even the current synopsis still works. David Jaffe himself said that one of the earliest ideas for Twisted Metal was to make it a game about delivering packages from point A to B. And that's literally John Doe's purpose in this story. Aside from that various characters from the game exist in the show too along with Sweet Tooth.
@@Misty25939 have they said Calypso is going to be featured, although he is absolutely essential to anyone who cares, they don't and cutting him out might give them the chance to leave out the supernatural element. The supernatural stuff is also essential, again- not that may care, but I sort of fear where they might go with the supernatural stuff if they lean too far into it.
@@youknowme7797 I don't really know that far or where they plan to go with the show. I'm just saying that the Twisted Metal universe is actually very flexible when it comes to adding anything new. It could also be that this takes place after the video games so who knows what's going to happen.
@@youknowme7797 but at the same time, Calypso needs to be in it because without Calypso, twisted metal wouldn't have existed.
i want to hope that the mysterious person John is heading to is actually Calypso, and this is sorta like his “Qualification” and at the end of the season, Calypso invites him to the contest.
or maybe having characters like Agent Stone and Raven as well would lead to a “Team Contest”
Team Calypso vs Team John Doe
but only one way to know, and that’s to watch the show
I would bet money that this mysterious person is Calypso, either that or the plot line gets dropped or becomes secondary to some bigger plot. Assuming it remains super important who else could it be? It's not going to be Sweet tooth.
@@FatherTime89 Mr. Ash? also, i pray we get Minion
@@FatherTime89 Could be Marcus Kane, and they're setting up a Fight Club-type relationship with him and Sweet Tooth.
I was thinking they’d probably set the world up with season one and ends with an introduction to Calypso. The world in the TM show is called the Divided States of America and Id imagine Calypso wanting to unite it all again and “make it great again” via the contest
Without calypso it's pretty much like another death race movie. I really hope calypso is in it or the show really doesn't make sense to make.
Twisted Metal 1 had the best template for a story. A mysterious cult leader leading an underground tournament of misfits. The time period led to some cyberpunk vibes too. Could’ve been a dystopian future (but not post apocalypse) with Calypso being a false messiah.
a false messiah who may or may not have powers granted to him by the Devil. The show would keep it largely ambiguous for the season until the finale pretty much gives us confirmation.
It was set in the year 2005 while the game was made in 1995.
Honestly that sounds like a crap shoot of a story
@@levirussell257 it was as vague as possible dipshit
You know, with the way you described it all. I can see why this could be great or it could be trash. Also, I kinda hope they go the fantastical route with the show where we actually have a grim reaper, devils, satan, ghosts and people with their head on fire. That'll give it some character from the typical Post Apocalyptic setting for sure. That and I hope the dark comedy is retained as well; I'm kinda getting Evil Dead vibes and Deadpool based on the teaser.
Highly doubt they will, it's going to be Mad Max but with a low budget with little or no connection to the game's story. I doubt it will even have a tournament.
Evil Deadpool
@@pharmcat8484 I totally missed that boat
@@EmergencyChannel Let's wait and see first. If it is garbo, I'll know it once we see more in a proper trailer.
@@pharmcat8484 Off-topic, that's one of the only few Deadpool villains that I actually like. Too bad that the Marvel writers and execs think that Evil Deadpool compared to Deadpool is like Hsu Hao compared to Kano in Mortal Kombat.😔
I feel like instead of greenlighting a tv series, they could have first produced a series of shortfilms to A: guage fan interest in a series, and B: established context for what this world looks like in terms if being a Twisted Metal adaptation. All the same I feel confident in saying I'm likely going ti watch it regardless because this is a franchise that derserves better than to have been ignored for 10 years. If even a medicore project brings TM into the public eye again, I'm all for it.
Every twisted metal black cutscene could've been a mini episode!
While I fully agree with you, the problem with that is that it would never happen in this economy. These studios hardly want to pay writers what they deserve (residuals) and even hire them in the first place to keep a show going so producing film shorts like that would be entirely out of the question.
If they can match what happened in TM 2012 then it's all good.
Mediocre is just going to put it away again on frozen ice lmao
Kind of like the animated teaser Black had. That showed some characters in a more day to day situation instead of in the tournement. That could work. Honestly if the show goes about John Doe bumping into various would be contestants so everyone got a feel for them. And without them necessarily having to die right away. Then it could easily roll into a season 2 tournament arc. But honestly I don't think aiming for a season 2 would be the right move.
Having Joe be the body and Will Arnet be the voice is actually a really cool idea, means we could get a very similar portrayal as Black, which seems like the main touchstone of the writing team, given the character choices, which is a very weird thing given its arguably the most horrifying of the games yet they are opting for comedy
Judging from Will's voice and his past performances I could see him pull off a version of Needles akin to his appearance from Head-On imo.
I believe this will have more than one tone set for the show, like in games
One is more silly one is more dark and I think blending both worlds can be interesting if done right
For season 1, I felt it did well to build up anticipation for the Twisted Metal Tournament
I honestly don't think we're gonna get too much closer than the Death Race movies as far as a live action "Twisted Metal" movie or series. The main gripe I have as of right now is if Sweet tooth is gonna be the main antagonist. Then why isn't Marcus Kain the main character?
Probably thought that any twist they could have with Marcus would be too obvious.
It's like how in the Batman: Hush adaptation everyone who cared knew about the twist of who Hush was, so they changed it to The Riddler, which is just kinda dumb and just got dumber when The Riddler had to give a big explanation for why it was possible.
I can't believe I never made that connection in death race 2 when I watched it. It bugged the hell out of me when I saw that movie and the crime boss was named Marcus Kane..
Yaaaaa
Cause he wasn't the main antagonist an Marcus gets a cameo
I remember the trailer for twisted metal 2, the "calypso what have you done? What have you done!?" That one, new York was pretty f'd up, then he set his sights on the world, of he did yo the world what he did to new York, icould understand the world looking post apocalyptic
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It actually started in LA, but the main point is that it went global after the city was destroyed.
Funny enough, it was after seeing Fury Road in theatres my first reaction was “there is now no excuse to not do a Twisted Metal”
I thought that after watching Death Race
@@Hitomora Me too
Hopefully it's not a monkey's paw style wish
I am now reminded to watch Fury Road once again
@@Hitomora Honestly this is giving a bigger feeling of being Death Race vs Mad Max. Mad Max ultimately is about Max surviving and having guilt over his wife and daughter dying. Death Race on the other hand is more about the event itself, and the players don't matter ultimately.
The worst they can do is make this just a Twisted Metal show in name only. It's fine is they change a few things but they'll need to extract what makes a Twisted Metal game and put some of it in the show, and I don't just mean cars having guns.
well what made twisted metal the most memorable and enjoyed was being a fucking playable video game lmao. seems difficult to bring entertainment to a bunch of gamers with exclusively trash cutscenes on offer with zero actual gameplay. but. maybe they want a brand new fanbase. cuz they sure asf arent pursuing the gamers that were fans of the games.
I hope it gets into the darker elements of the character development
@@drunkpunk5393I grew up on Twisted Metal and all I needed to see was cars with guns and Sweet Tooth and I was sold.
The whole John Doe thing, honestly, I'm kind of happy they went with this. John Doe is in name still a familiar character but yet pretty much a clean slate kind of person to go in whatever direction they want, and include others with more complex backgrounds around him.
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I remember hearing about this show in high school, and I just got through college a year ago.
Same here lol
@@super8bitable I'm amazed it's taken this long to come out.
Probably a bit of development hell was involved. Heck, it was probably around the time when streaming shows wasn't as popular at this time.
It was either cable tv, direct to video, a web series, or a multi-movie franchise.
I'm surprised they didn't go for something akin to the Death Race reboot, a dark web streaming show where millionaires bet on a tournament filled with wacky characters and the protagionist blackmailed into entering.
I was looking forward to your video about this series, it's a very tricky IP to adapt to series/movies. My ideal adaptation for Twisted Metal would be an anthology series on which we would get one episode per character, it would basically be like you're playing the arcade mode choosing which character you wanna see victorious. And on every episode we would get a glimpse of Sweet Tooth's backstory and the final chapter of the first season would be about him becoming the canonical winner of this first season, being the only one left alive for the next one. I pretty much agree with you on everything you said here, I'm very curious how they gonna introduce the mystical side of the games, like Calypso being this god/devil that can do anything the winner desires. I just hope they don't ruin Sweet Tooth with too much humor. I'm currently playing TM Black again and damn, Sweet Tooth is relentless in that game, I hope they can keep him like that.
OH that would be fkn SWEET pun intended. Damn, a season like that would be awesome.
I think my problem with series like The Last of Us and the upcoming God of War series is that they feel like extremely safe bets used to milk an already successful product, not helped by the fact that the source material they adapt is already like a movie or tv show with how the story is presented (you know, the kind of thing gamers tend to deride as Hollywood Oscar bait) just with gameplay segments, kinda like when people upload the games's cutscenes and call it a "movie."
Which honestly makes statements like "The Least of Us has finally broken the bad videogame adaptation curse" feel extremely hollow in my opinion.
To me, videogame adaptations of games that often thought to be impossible to adapt because they rely too much on gameplay or they don't have exactly the deepest story and characters are way more interesting and entertaining because of how the people making them tried to make a movie out of said games.
It's the reason why I've always been fascinated with live-action movies like Super Mario Bros., Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat and the like, they just took a lot of risks and made so many changes to the source material while also being rather faithful in some areas and also have so many crazy memorable things about them because of that.
I think a Twisted Metal series intrigues me more than a Last of Us series because of how "unadaptable" the games are and thus it has more chances to either be really fun and entertaining or a complete trainwreck that's riped for memes.
The first Mario movie & the Street Fighter movie are very fascinating failures, if nothing else. i stand by the first Mortal Kombat film as a B-movie done right - it knows what it wants to achieve and nails it for the most part (aside from Scorpion & Sub-Zero being jobbed out so quickly). Even the Double Dragon movie has its defenders these days, in that "fun kind of bad" way!
Well the point of adapting narrative heavy games like last of us or recent god of war is to share the story with audiences that dont play games. It also helps those people see that games can actually have strong stories in the same way shows, movies and books do. I personally dontcare about watching an adaptation of a stoy game ive played. Never even glanced at last of us I beat the game and watching the show will never come close to how it feels to take part in the stoy yourself but im glad it did good.
Show made me love the series again and your videos helped a lot in refreshing myself on the lore and the hidden lore. Cant wait for season 2, which I hope happens 😭
I personally think the movie death race was as close to twisted metal that we could get
Agreed. The 1st was Awesome
Alternate universe where Jason Statham takes on Calypso's sister!
I thought Death Race was more likely closer to Caemageddon, if Caemageddon ever became TV or film. Specifically Death Race 2000.
@@valutaatoaofunknownelement197 Maybe, but Death Race even had powerups, and a Minion-like final boss!
@@valutaatoaofunknownelement197 The original death race was Carmageddon, (So much that the developers of Carmageddon tried to get the rights to death race), whereas the 2008 one was more like twisted metal since the competitors shooting each other was the whole point.
I just hope the series is popular enough to spark more interest in the series
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In defense of John Doe being the main protagonist, he is the driver of Roadkill and in TM2 and TM Head-On the driver of Roadkill is implied to be the main character because of the possibility that the whole series is going on in his head.
Also, five bucks says John Doe is delivering the package to Calypso
The package delivery was not a part of the first game?
Everyone already knows he's gonna deliver the package to Calypso.
There's no bet to be made.
@@stormwolf5848 Not to my recollection, no.
What? John Doe is ONE of the drivers of Roadkill, and there's been multiple John Doe's. The first driver was a cop, then Marcus Kane was the driver for one or two games, THEN John Doe was a driver for one game until he "wins", then after that ANOTHER John Doe takes his place where "John Doe's" are actually cops. Saying "he is the driver of Roadkill" is pretty disingenuous especially considering -spoiler below-
he fuckin' dies.
@@stormwolf5848 In the sense we follow the delivery boy? No. Though two of the characters (Crimson Fury and Warthog) are in the tournament wanting to obtain a missing black box that proves ailens exist. So that's kind of close at least.
Meanwhile, TM1's road kill was a solider wanting to go back to the past to keep his squad from dying (only to be wasted this time). But I think that's the only time someone wished to time travel (Twister does so accidently).
A vigilante 8 tv show would have been a much easier adaptation since you have two opposing factions skirmishing over objectives and resources instead of just a tournament to the death.
Yup
Update it to take place in the 1980s, (Vigilante80s!) and even tie in the Interstate 'verse to it somehow, and you have a deal.
My choice for Skeeter? Mojo Nixon.
Hell, a Roadkill show would make more sense if we’re going more story driven.
@@seatspud there was an interstate 82. Never played it but u did pkay the battlefield 1942 mod of the same name
Yeah, Vigilante 8 (especially with Interstate 76 to pull from) would be way easier to adapt. Both games have a "Canon" story and who wins and looses. And hell, due to the setting it doesn't even need to be the regular cast. Could be an entire other group of Vigilante's against OMAR backed terrorists. Or a lone sole survivor of a big skirmish between the two trying to make it back to safety, but still having to fight the occasional stray.
But, if Twisted Metal is kind of lacking brand recognition then V8 is virtually unknown. Plus TM is Sony's and they're on this film kick.
Also the package could be the ring which could take a 2nd season being the creation of the tournament at the end of season 1.
I suppose the show could tell its own unique story, and hopefully it’s well written.
But honestly I’m happy we’re getting Twisted Metal anything!
Arcane, castlevania and the boys are the few that did this really well. Let's hope this is gonna be one of them.
I loved playing TM2 . Spent hours trying to find all the secrets, endings. After black I didn't know the game went on.
I bet you like fat statue of liberty
I don't remember the games getting a lot of promotion after Black, aside from Small Brawl being pushed at Blockbuster. Main thing was that the games were always pretty brutal and dark, but never really generated controversy like something like Manhunt did, so it was controversial enough to deter places from advertising it and retail stores from stocking it, but not controversial enough to benefit from the controversy.
@@qty1315 excellent point.
Having seen the series now, and not having high hopes after seeing how all the other adaptations have gone, I was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. There's plenty of references from nearly all the games: locations, character names, and cars. Though it doesn't follow the set-up of any of the games, and there's a fair number of character changes to fit into an original storyline, it does set up Calypso's tournament for season 2.
I'm actually eager to see what they do with it, if the writers and actors strikes don't kill the second season.
I don't know if I'd say I'm "cautiously optimistic" as much as I'm just cautious, myself. It kind of ping-pongs for me. I really, really, REALLY hope this show turns out to be good. It doesn't even need to follow Twisted Metal to the absolute letter. I just want it to be engaging and capture the "spirit" of Twisted Metal. We haven't had a game since 2012, and I just... REALLY want this to be good.
Anyway, addressing one thing. I actually like the idea of John Doe as a main character, and I sort of disagree with your point. The thing that made him interesting in Black wasn't the reveal he was an FBI agent, seeing his "true character" for 20 seconds before being killed. He was engaging because he was a blank slate who went through tons of mental anguish due to his amnesia. He only had tattoos and flashing memories to go off of, and there were a number of possibilities in the air as to who he could be. This tormented him, leading to violent outbursts and the like, and it became his core motive behind participating in that deranged tournament. THAT was his character. Not the FBI agent, but the tormented amnesiac.
In a series like Twisted Metal where basically EVERYONE is "the main character," who exactly would you star as the main character in a TV series? The always-chaotic-evil Sweet Tooth? That would be cool, but it'd get boring in a hurry. Too much of a good thing. How about Jamie and/or Carl Roberts in Outlaw? I'd say the motive of stopping the chaos is too basic, specific, and straightforward.
So why not introduce a "blank slate" character in the form of John Doe, with a motive as interesting, tantalizing, and mysterious as "delivering a special package?" Someone who would not only have a potentially interesting character/story through the amnesia angle, but he'd also be someone who is introduced to the crazy world of Twisted Metal alongside the audience, all while referencing something Twisted Metal-related.
Another thing I'd like to put my two cents towards... The post-apocalyptic setting worries me a little. It could work. It's a fitting setting for cars going dakka-dakka-kaboom. However, a big part of the charm of Twisted Metal comes from the fact that these tournaments are taking place in populated areas. These competitors are not only killing each other, but there's tons of collateral damage in the process. Even Small Brawl captured this, wreaking havoc and destroying everyday-places.
A lot of hardcore TM fans probably know there was actually a scrapped concept literally called "Twisted Metal: Apocalypse." The reason it got scrapped to begin with was because one of the leads "wasn't really feeling it." When you have a setting that not only clashes with what TM's always been, but it's a setting one of the leads *straight up did not like in the past,* that's a tad concerning, I think.
But it could work. I love stuff like Mad Max, so I'm staying open-minded. Who knows? Maybe this was done on purpose and is some clever way to revive that idea. But this is the TV/movie industry. Lol. I won't give them that much credit, yet.
Anyway, good video! Left a like. I'm definitely eager to see this show. And if it turns out to be bad, I absolutely cannot wait to see you shred it to pieces. Don't hold back if that ends up being the case, TBP. :)
Good points. Especially about how John can grow and we learn along with him about how things are. Like how exactly did the world get fucked over. As well as keeping Sweet Tooth as a Sometimes food, not the main course.
And as for the Apocalypse setting, I get why the show would prefer it (mass slaughter of innocents is kinda tricky to pull off, especially for a low budget TV show). But Twisted Metal always kind of felt like YOU were the apocalypse, the world IS ending and it will be by you and the other contestants hands trying to claim your prize. And just from what we know, this has more of a Death Race feel then Mad Max.
Now the season's out, and it's a *definite* 8\10.
They absolutely *nailed* Sweet Tooth...
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The biggest issue I think is that Twisted Metal loses a bit of it's edge in an era in which mainstream entertainment is more desensitized to violence.
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My only concern is whether Sweet Tooth would be suitably thicc, but considering he's being physically portrayed by Samoa Joe, I think that particular aspect is well in hand.
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I hope they get super weird with it, I am hoping that we get an Anthology series that has a focus on different tournaments every few episodes and the wish made from the winner alters the world for the next few episodes and the next tournament
I will also settle for a Whacky Racers style show lol
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The teaser definitely makes it feel like Mad Max with a Twisted Metal paint job. Hopefully they have more from the games than just a couple names.
I've been a fan of this series since 2 released. I've wanted a TM movie for pretty much the entire time I've known about the games. I actually, for a moment thought we were getting one when they rebooted Death Race. That trailer looked more like TM than DR2000, especially with the armored cars and semi truck. But then they said a character name or showed the title, and I was disappointed.
I don't know, I'm kind of rambling here. I just hope that it's good.
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Lmao i cant wait to see the follow up video after TBP watches the series.
It probably would’ve been smart to just have every episode used as a setup. For each character from the game. Give their origins and reason to why they would join the tournament. In each episode would focus on one character. Every episode ends with them meeting Calypso. Then the final episodes of each seasons should be the tournament. Sorta like Mortal Kombat legacy. But with a bigger budget and a flash out story.
This right here absolutely makes the most sense. It also gives everyone a character to root for when the tournament kicks off. With the type of narrative they chose it just instantly gives you a set main protag which just isn't as interesting at all. It could have been a really unique shorts story situation that all culminates into one big final narrative but instead they went with the easiest and most generic option.
How the fuck does sweet tooth get only 1 episode I’m a little upset about that
Honestly the fun thing about Twisted Metal is that almost every entry was their own thing with the few games that have an actual overarching plotline can be counted on one hand.
Also looking at Samoa Joe who's gonna be the body is pretty nice because he's definitely got the perfect physique to play the modern and iconic SweetTooth/Needles Kane.
You need an Obese Wrestler to be the Body Actor of an Ice Cream Man wearing a Clown Mask.
I think there's a lot of potential for this series especially if there's going to be a lot of competitive spirit and motivation behind all the characters so that they could have their wishes granted. I hope the spirit of Calypso twisting everyone's wishes and desires to be fulfilled is going to be part of the show but it makes me wonder how They will balance conflict and resolution within the show. I also wonder if they will dedicate an entire season or show to the premise of sweet tooth imagining the entire tournament or if it's going to be like the show St Elsewhere where the entire series is based on something that was in his head. There's so much potential based on how many characters are in all of the games and how they can utilize them.
Sadly I could easily see them pulling the "It's all in sweet tooth's head" thing black did, but in a much more ham fisted fashion. Like "Don't worry, the world isn't destroyed, it's just how Sweet Tooth sees it from his padded cell".
Who else is here after the show’s release impatiently waiting for TBP’s review video? 😂😂😂
Lol Samoa Joe as Sweet Tooth :D Interresting choice - i lost it when you played the Scott Steiner clip :DD
The closest Ive seen to adapt car combat to where it was pretty fun and refreshing at the time was Death Race 1. If twisted metal tv series can match that kind of action if not more id be all for this.
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Death Race 2000 was better.
"Steal My Sunshine" being the theme song of the trailer scares me because it makes me think it'll be a show for non-fans full of memes and/or "relatable" humor". Here's to hoping it won't have any "Zootopia" jokes in it.
The problem with a tournament-based show is that it doesn't work if characters are introduced and killed off in the same episode. People can't root for characters to win if they don't last for a few episodes for us the audience to connect with the characters. Therefore, people really wouldn't care about the characters that much. A lot of tournament style shows are competitive sports like Ninja Warrior or drama-centric reality shows like Big Brother, and Twisted Metal is neither.
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I think the "Anthology" format would be a much better choice than following just one character through the whole thing, especially just "John Doe" like if it was Axel or some other long standing character that fans have an attachment to, then MAYBE it would be better. IDK as long as they don't cram a bunch of "Diversity" and "Representation" into it, I'll give it a chance.
Castlevania is all game all the time and they did a great job character building and combining the story together …do a mad max death race type show .
The show was definitely better than I expected. The trailers were so bad it almost ruins the show.
Going the “Marvel What If?” Route different stories that end up being connected by the end. Probably would work.
"taking an established IP and just using it to sell what would otherwise be an unremarkable experience" - this is *exactly* what happened with the first Super Mario Bros. movie, if anyone doesn't know! It originally had a much different script that was more true to the games, then the directors hijacked the whole project and turned it into a vehicle for their "Blade Runner but with DINOSAURS!" script that had gotten rejected all over Hollywood on its own. So yeah, that's a pretty accurate worst-case scenario for this imo
Samoa Joe being involved gives me some hope though, as that's rather outside-the-box casting and a brilliant choice!
This could work, a few years ago there was a show called blood drive, where racers would drive to different locations in the post apocalypse
Yeah, Blood Drive seems more like the basis for this show then twisted metal. But since you're the first person I've seen mention it, I wouldn't be surprised if they got the TM name just for some brand recognition.
The series needs dialogue, build up, suspense, and they want the characters to have depth. If it were all car action it's just be a lower budget series that would resemble the latter death race movies
I wish this show was based around Sweet Tooth entering the tournament and following him thru the end to meeting Calypso but instead it’s not and they ruined it
A route they could go is season one "John Doe" does the whole drive across the badlands 2deliver said package. At the end of season 1 turns out its Calypso hes delivering to and its just some bullshit trinket he tosses aside and says the real test was getting here and he asks John to join the tournament. Season 2 is focused on classic style Twisted Metal Tournament and near the end John starts remembering who he really is (some type of undercover agent) and his goal is to kill Calypso, then go from there
I wanted something like this years ago. In my head I built it up like this:
Season 1 would focus on Calypso and Outlaw with Calypso being a crime lord. Other characters could get some spotlight as you see how they cross over in parts of the main story (think Sin City). Calypso dies in an explosion during a confrontation with Outlaw (hence the messed up face) and while in hell, learns of the power Minion's ring holds. He chalanges Minion for it and he accepts by proposing combat using vehicles. Calypso wins, uses the ring to return to earth, then inspired by his battle with Minion, gets the word out about the Twisted Metal tournament he will be hosting.
Season 2 would simply be about the various characters and their reasons for wanting Calypso's prize of any one wish granted. Possibly with Calypso creating Sweet Tooth as his attempt to rig the tournament. The idea that Sweet Tooth would win, allowing Calypso to collect the souls of the fallen without the risk of granting a wish to a possible winner who means to stop him (aka Outlaw).
Season 3 would fall more in line with Twisted Metal Black as Calypso tries to find people crazy enough to do another tournament. The asylum would have newer characters that Black introduced, but could have characters return as residents that lost in the last tournament but weren't killed. Just before the tournament, Minion arives on earth and anounces that he will enter so he can retrieve his ring as his prize. This forces Calypso to enter the tournament as well in order to prevent Minion from winning. I don't know how this would end since i never wrote out a story or anything.
These were what i would think about off and on years back. It's no masterpiece of an idea, but since a show really is happening, I just wanted to get my thoughts out there. Thank you to anyone who actually took the time to read this. I know long posts aren't the most fun things to read at times.
Honestly, I’m not even bothering until we hear about Calypso. Having Twisted Metal without Calypso is like having Mortal Kombat without Scorpion, or Smash Bros without Master Hand.
I love the justification you have for Samoa Joe as Needles Kane/Sweet Tooth. "He's a good choice because big boi lol" I agree. But I'm curious why Will Arnett needs to voice him, and what he's gonna do with the character. Nothing against Will Arnett, I love him in what I've seen him in, but I wonder if Samoa Joe couldn't act very well or something, so they're dubbing him over?
I know this isn't the topic, but what was your guy's favorite Calypso? mine was honestly the 2012 version, I liked his face, his voice, and the way he acted (especially in some of the cut endings) and I honestly kinda want him back
I do like 2012 Calypso, he's done pretty well and has great voice acting. Definitely has huge villain vibes.
Personally... probably TM2 Calypso? The burned face design gives him the perfect balance between 'normal dude' and villain. Something about the voice acting he has and the writing if the endings give him the perfect smug, wish twisting energy (e.g. Warthog's ending) without steering into straight up "how can I ruin this person's wish for the fun of it" and knowing when is best to just give someone their wish (best example: Axel's ending and how he just gives him what he wants, no twist). Plus that smile at the end as he thanks me for playing Twisted Metal is wonderful.
Same, but honestly, I just love the OG Twisted Metal Lost ending version of Calypso. He's just ridiculously entertaining.
Probably TW2 Calypso, he's just the top of Calypso's of all time.
Honestly yeah 2012 Calypso was great the moment that convo about Christmas happens between him and Needles. I immediately see him as a great choice if they decided to rez the game series again
Sounds like TBP should do a Calypso Tier List
@@NoeIram I could see that as nice quick video
That's Samoa Joe's physique behind the live action Sweet Tooth!?! Interesting
Four words: _Mortal Kombat,_ and _Blood Drive._ The '90s _Mortal Kombat_ movie took a game with a very similar mission structure to _Twisted Metal_ (a series of fights to the death as part of a tournament) and basically did a remake of _Bloodsport_ with more influence from urban fantasy and Hong Kong martial arts movies, rather appropriately given how much of a debt the games owe to _Bloodsport._ Barring the PG-13 rating, it proved surprisingly faithful to the spirit of the source material. _Blood Drive,_ meanwhile, was a SyFy original series that's probably the best _Twisted Metal_ TV show made up to this point, from the colorful cast of characters and vehicles to the main villain being pretty much a lawyer-friendly version of Calypso, to the point that I think the only reason nobody involved with the show got sued was because they made the main tournament a Cannonball Run with guns instead of a deathmatch.
I think the best way to adapt _Twisted Metal_ would be to, oddly enough, go the route of the 2012 video game and only focus on a few contestants as our main characters. A troubled yet sympathetic figure who entered with good intentions, somebody who wants to stop Calypso, somebody with a "dark" motive like revenge or greed, Needles Kane as the big heavy who's built up as the main bad guy out on the battlefield, and some character development for Calypso himself and the people around him. It would still have a lot of competitors like the older games, but most of them would be either one-episode villains or supporting characters who are there to get killed off. The final episodes have our main characters face off against each other, with the last one standing claiming their prize and getting it granted in a manner straight out of _The Twilight Zone._ Calypso thanks us for watching _Twisted Metal,_ roll credits, have a post-credits scene showing that Needles Kane cheated death so you can bring him back for season two.
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A Courier delivers to a client "calypso" a Item the item has been absorbing the dead John doe has killed and when Calypso has the item ..he has "Black" ((the Demon introduced in TM1))
Being post apocalyptic makes sense to me when you consider how much gets destroyed in your average twisted metal tournament
How is John Doe gonna be a “talkative milkman” and not drive a mad max milk truck with guns?
I’m cautiously optimistic because it’s been a decade since something came out of the series and I’m excited we’re getting something new, but also worried that if the show is bad it would just put Twisted Metal into another long hiatus. Hopefully the show is at the very least decent.
We just want a game and this shows success level will probably determine that 🥺
That could do something like the Sci-fi channel Blood Drive, that was kind liked Twisted Metal.
Haven't finished the video but came here to say the show is awesome and I'm already hyped for season 2
Take my opinion with a grain of salt because I've never actually played any of the games(my only knowledge of TM is sweet tooth in all stars and I've never even played it) but i would still recommend it
Obviously it adapts well. One of the drivers in the ad puts a code in through his shifter knob while saying “up up down down left right left right”
I am exhausted with a post-apocalyptic theme for damn near everything. I'm so going to check out the show though
Also, "he's FAT!" Had me rolling 😂
Twisted Metal Black could be a TV series. Each episode shows the lives of a character right up to entering the tournament. Flesh out their backstory and cut between the current action & flashbacks.
The cut to the Steiner clip was a 10/10 edit.
Makes me laugh every time.
Also Samoa Joe rules, but they also should've had him voice Sweet Tooth. Joe is terrifying!
A Twisted Metal show should be a Kafkaesque Mad Max Squid Games.
Obviously as a standard tournament format a TV show is a bit of a problem, but I figured a fix for this was like, do it like a battle royal tournament of sorts?
Like about 100 cars, most being meat for the fire but with the classic characaters peppered inbetween.
You have the thing happen in rounds, so round one is in Los Angeles between all 100 cars until 50 are left, then 50 into whatever other location they chose, 25, then 10 until only one is left, who then fights Minion who won the tournament before.
Of course this bring a number of problems, like how do you go about Marcus and Needles? Who wins the thing? How does Calypso twist the wish whilst also leaving room for possible other season, if there are any?
Also 100 cars is gonna be hard to deal with visually and like, budget wise.
Overall Twisted Metal getting an adaptation is just...weird. TloU worked cause, well, the games already work as movies to an extent. Twisted Metal doesn't even have a clear canon, so that is just odd.
I bet its a package of the next game for calypso. Show ends where he speaks to us the audience "see you later"
I want this to be good. I was a huge fan of twisted metal back in the day. Fell off around the release of twisted metal black. Hoping for the best but won’t be surprised if it turns out bad
Oh, I just had a rather terrifying idea. What if the twist is that the story wasn't actually post-apocalyptic, and John Doe was actually Marcus Kane trying to cope with the fact that he's actually all alone in Sweet tooth head, save for the few memories of the other drivers he killed?
This can only work if every episode foucuses on a new character. Show their backstory, have them win the tournament and get their wish, but they get screwed over in the end and either die or get their lives ruined. Maybe connect some characters' backstories together, but keep the plot purely episodic.
Anthony Mackie is a badass actor so that's definitely a mark in the shows favor. I remember him in The Hurt Locker and Half Nelson, and along with the Marvel movies the man has serious range. It'll be interesting to see if he gets to flex his skills in a show based on a game with very little story. They will have to get really creative with how the do the plot, which I hope they manage to somehow add their own ideas while also fleshing out some of the characters so it feels like Twisted Metal and isn't just another Death Race.
so my thing with this show that everyone is taking away from this is that the fact that this series gives producers and screen writers the building blocks to make a great story people are so hung up on accuracy, which is the wrong approach there is no set story for this game its all basically reboots hell Black is just the tournament from sweet tooth’s perspective. 2012 is the only game with a decent story line imo but the lack of content from the trailer makes me more excited to see what they have in store.
It could work as an anthology, having each episode as a story for each participant
Idk I think that it’s pretty sick 🤷🏻♂️ as someone that grew up playing the games heavy it did it in the best way I think it could have been done. Saw it advertised and was like no way I’m watching that, gave it a shot and loved it.
This was an extremely well made video. You called into question a lot potential issues the show could have, gave some solutions, and even got a lot of them correct. Good analysis
I'm excited for it but also expecting disappointment. I feel like there could be a easy way to make the show really good.
My dream was twisted metal black being character driven show. Intro episode at asylum and final episode being final match. Each other episdoe was one character entering tournament and seeing there lead up to the final battle. Kill off minor characters from weaker games in a car battle before the set up for the final battle. Have sweet tooth show up in every story until 2nd final episode where it tells his back story and set up the final episode where we are all routing for a different character. Set up fans routing for different episodes and build up hype for the series finale.
I saw the description and realised that this was a post apocalyptic show with a Twisted Metal coat of paint. 😅
Similar as to how they have a movie idea and just put in the title or a character from the franchise to justify the use of the lisence.
My theory as to how twisted metal could have worked in a movie adaptation is to do a standalone film about the top nine favorite characters and then the final film be the tournament where everybody meets up and essentially it becomes a last Man standing scenario to meet Calypso in order for him to grant you your wish with the twisted word mindset that he always has portrayed
Honestly I must say I am looking forward to it and if I may here's a potential plot idea that could utilize the tournament what if instead of the typical you all fight you get a wish old John Doe is hired to deliver the package and whoever gets the package to who I would hope to assume is Calypso gets the wish hence why all the potential raiders and hopefully great characters from the franchise are chasing him so anyone can bring the package but he is the delivery boys who starts with it
I've been concerned for this TV adaptation since the incredible reception of TLoU while it was airing. It may have set the bar too high for this.
I'm semi excited for the show, I didn't play the games much but do have some nostalgia for the series. I think that they're doing a post-apocalypse to kind of set-up that this isn't the first tournament and if there was a tournament like this it would be very destructive. I personally think that if they're setting it up that John Doe is delivering a package, that he's delivering it to Calypso. That Calypso or someone for Calypso is doing it to get John Doe into the tournament.
Ill be here for the episode reviews even if they are late 😅 always great content. Thanks!
I had a coworker tell me about this & it got me thinking that it could be more of a story wrapped around Sweet Tooth, but after watching this I like the idea of the multiple gangs revolving around other main characters from the games themselves makes me intrigued.
TBP is scared to eat crow and make a followup video, lmao.
This is the problem with MOST video game adaptations… TLOU worked because the game is basically a TV series or really long movie that you control… it was already an incredible story and easy to translate. Most games are only fun because you’re in control and doing fun things… Assassins Creed games are fun because you do parkour, assassinate fools and go on cool adventures… no one even knows what the damn story is about! My sister has played every single one and I asked her one day recently what the story actually is about and she’s like “Templars… some magic apples or something? I dunno.” Lmao she has platinum on like 4 of those games.
I can name every character in The Last of Us, I can remember their faces when they died and how it made me feel, I can remember the menu music and the ending scene with Ellie touching the grass outside the house…. It’s burned into my brain because it was a great story experience.
I remember other games because I defeated a difficult boss, or I did something really cool like blowing up ten cars with one grenade or something… even my favorite games… I remember the experience of play the game, not the story. I remember Twisted Metal because me and my best friend sat on the floor in the middle of the night at sleepovers playing and blowing shit up… I didn’t even think Twisted Metal had a story! I assumed the story was “cars go vroom, cars go boom.” Lol
Very few games are compatible with TV/Movie adaptation and Twisted Metal is about as far as it gets!
They even made changes to the last of us so it worked better as a TV show
Adapting the tournament on TV would be difficult. In the game you can pick any character and see what would happen if they win and there's no canonical winner. I don't think that would fly with TV. So you'd establish all these characters pick one to be the winner and kill all the others and then have to do all that again next tournament re establishing a bunch of new characters keeping only Calypso and the previous year's winner.
Just wait until you see that they have Raven act as the Calypso. They seem to have the "bosses" own their area. At least the updated trailer has the purple hearse in it.
I thought the show was actually pretty fantastic
It may sound outlandish, but it could be Calypso's ring and take after twisted metal 4's idea of someone else running the tournament
I’ve played a few of the twisted metal games and a clone of it called carmageddon that was also on the ps1.
The hype was funny seeing Anthony Mackie head bag to 1999/00 song LEN steal my sunshine.
If they don’t have calypso as either the end villain or watching everywhere than it probably won’t work.
Because you need a good villain to make the other half of the story work.
You have neve Campbell and Thomas Hayden Church as actors and I honestly haven’t seen anything of Neve Campbell work since the 90’s.
Thomas Hayden Church was in the Spider-Man move no way home and really just a call back actor.
Before Spider-Man 3 I hadn’t seen anything of him since 90’s tv show Ned & Stacy.
I liked peacocks show Wolf like me the actors were great Elsa Fischer was hot and Josh Gadd typecast as the bumbling clod who’s clueless as to things and lacking in self confidence but a big heart.
The story was easy to follow and the hopeless pudgy father played by gadd ends up with a hottie and gets laid and fathers a child who will likely be half werewolf when it’s born it really needs a season 2 since the episode 6 ending was a happy one.
Comedy sells but a decent story helps, I was not impressed by the fresh Prince reboot.
Twisted metal might end up just a one hit wonder, halo was given a tv series and a few movies which did fair.
Dead Rising made 2 movies that first aired on crackle and it was ok not great or not notch.
It’s about who makes a good story, and story and script matters.
Mad max tropes are likely open mind either way.
Just watching this and wow! You nailed the premise. I just finished watching the series.
The big thing that throws me off is still John Doe. Why not follow Carl and Jamie Roberts? Especially if season 1 isn't just a sweet tooth fever dream (Ala TM:Black)
I have two working theories on the show, one i just mentioned being that the first season of the show is in a similar story telling style to TM: Black (IE an unreliable narrator via not only Sweet tooth, but even John Doe himself.)
The second leading theory?
John Doe is going to die in the first episode and that's how we get the perspective of each character. Either how they die, or when they quit until we reach the victor. (If they even bother with the tournament in S1)
Side theory I forgot about but I think rather than prolong what gave John Doe his amnesia will be revealed to us at the beginning of the show. The song in the trailer could have alot more meaning than people think.
Steal my Sunshine's lyrics could spell out exactly what he lost aside from his memories
This is giving me Super Mario Bros movie vibes (the 1993 version), and that's a good thing.
Another person who liked the 93 Mario Bros movie?
I would totally watch a show starring Granny Dread.
I have no strong opinions on the Twisted Metal show, but I'll probably watch it anyway.
Scott Campbell also was the co-founder of Twisted Metal. Hopefully, he and/or Jaffe can get some input in on it.
Sweet Tooth should not be a part of any group. He should work alone, be kept mysterious, and be the show's boogeyman. Also, I never realized how good of a casting Samoa Joe potentially might be for Sweet Tooth. lol
As for the show's premise, it feels and looks more like Quarantine than Twisted Metal... But adapting a television show about a fantastical tournament would be very difficult, so some changes would definitely need to be made to make a tv series.