Hey Kyle - love your channel and content. I attended a Julian Lage master class a few weeks ago. One idea that he presented was to play a passage (he used a scale as an example) and as you play this - start relaxing both hands until your not playing cleanly any longer. It can sound like a mess, and that's OK. Then focus on applying just enough control to each hand to bring the scale back into focus. That relaxed, almost falling apart point, can help identify tension in the hands and arms, etc.
That’s great, and so sweet we both caught him on the same run. That’s some great advice. I do the same thing with just the left hand, but have never tried it in conjunction with my right. Def gonna have to give that a go, thanks dude!
Cool concept. The kind of thing that I think people arrive at by necessity after having hand issues over their career. Obviously, his FD caused him to explore some new ideas and challenge some beliefs. I think Julian is now a certified Alexander Technique instructor now, too. I continue to have many hand issues so I will try this idea.
Saw his masterclass about two years ago, and he mentioned something about remembering just starting out at a pretty young age and how every new chord he learned felt like a miracle. If you have ever taken a trip down a reaction rabbit hole - and be honest, we all have - watching other people experience something for the first time is the closest we can come to experiencing it for the first time ourselves. I bet there is quite a bit of that in his pastime of watching those just starting out - rekindling the mystery and miracle of that beginner’s mind.
I think its awesome to hear someone just play before they know ANYTHING! Wrong notes don't effect you but you aren't aware that's what happening! It's quite beautiful!
you're such a rad guitar enthusiast-it's contagious, man! your outro was a crack-up too. ps, received my Iris OG custom a couple months back-very woody + rad!
@@kostringworks also, most of the first hour was broadcast on jazz 88 and I listened to it again on their site the other day. Jazz Impulse show archives if you want to relive the first 55 min. You'll want to scrub to the last hour of the show.
I've been working through the advancing guitarist for about 15 years. It's a masterpiece of musical education and one of the most important and well regarded guitar method books ever published.. I've come to realize that its true purpose is to condition us to a way of thinking deeply about the instrument (and maybe even life) with the ultimate goal of perfecting our own self teaching skills.
Great insights from the Masterclas Kyle. Julian is such an inspiration. I definitely recommend checking out the Almanac once you get time. It is a lifetime of work if you want it to be and can change how you view the guitar and music overnight. Thanks for your thoughts!
Thanks, Kyle 🙏🏻 A few years ago I attended an Ariel Posen clinic locally. I felt like I was in over my head, and just sat in amazement as he played, explained his thoughts and processes, and in general was just a cool guy. Julian Lage seems to be on that level, too. I think there's something to be said about his intuition and intention working together. It just flows. I know what we don't see is the hours upon hours spent refining his craft in the woodshed. That in and of itself is amazing to me. I definitely need more time in the 'shed Be good to you 🙏🏻🤍
Love Julian Lage… my favorite guy - says the most interesting things. I heard him talking one time and I still do about four things He talked about in a five minute throwaway conversation I mean, I don’t know it’s like listening to like a golden goose.
Mick Goodrick is one of the key educators from the last I dunno say 50 years I guess. His book, the Advancing Guitarist takes a very logical and formal approach about how to explore the instrument and it is full of humour too. I think he may well have been Julian's teacher and even , I am guessing but I am sure I am right, Pat Metheney's teacher. Thanks for sharing your interesting thoughts and experiences.
Those GVE books are amazing and are definitely "heavy lifting". One of my teachers/friends took a few years to work through them top to bottom. It shows, my goodness.
Remember I mentioned Julian a while back? We, commenters, can't really know you, watching fools me to think that. But no, I don't "know" you at all. Tuber- John Nathan Cordy recently began including his 19mo old little girl interact with his set pieces... and him. I could tell John's wife helps with the camera. If I name 3 more I sub to, then for me this is a trend. I have a beginner channel.... don't look. It's embarrassing. Now, 60+ years later, I take lessons in a 9 year old's books from a 25 year old teacher. It works for me. Decades ago, had a Master Class from John Hartford. 12 years ago, Master Class with Mike Dowling. I was the stage back-up rythm assistant. Penance for being 1 hour late to class. Michael got all 14 paying participants to wait an hour for me to drive across the Metro from Mound to St. Paul. What a guy!!! Lyle and I are retiring from P.& W. ministry in December. What's next? Live to play... Play to live... my play is Worship. Usually. You were always good to watch, and you are always getting better. Said it before, I admire what you've done and do. ADD... you know... makes it hard to focus. Today, first time I went to the Hennepin Cty Library in Mtka. First time I broke the barrier to focus on the books... a year later. Gotta build a paradigm to practice. Intuition? Sure. My key to improvisation is preparation. I've run long. Thanks Kyle... you are the right stuff!
That is so true like when I was in high school there are a few other guys that play guitar and then you would sit down and they show you a few things and you’d be like oh can you show me that riff or how do you do that and then it was like a big swap session where we would like show each other stuff and it’s one of my fondest memories of high school. Because a lot of other people wanted to know, but still it’s it was like really collaborative and really interesting. You know I can’t imagine trying to learn yourself on RUclips and like never play with people that just blows my mind. Occasionally, I teach beginners and like playing with other people next thing that you need to do and they’re just so hesitant to do it and I’m just thinking like how do you learn if you don’t play music with people you know like I always wanted to play songs in a band in front of a crowd and have girls clap that was always my goal. I don’t know what these guys goal is honestly
Yeah bud I think it’s big too! Of course it’s not everyone’s goal to play with people but there is something real special about hanging out with folks who care about the same thing you do, no matter what it is. Thanks for sharing!
Hmmm. What is intuition? Read effortless mastery by Kenny Werner. The essence of the idea is learn, internalize, listen and be open to what is going on around you if not playing solo, shut off the brain..,,the intent….and let the music flow. Is that playing by intuition or subconscious intent? From my experience my best playing i have heard on recordings, or based on crowd response or comments from musicians in the audience i had no idea what i played and in a lot of cases couldn’t play it again if i had to. Some of my playing was clearly driven by responding real time to other players. Intuition?
He didn’t but I’ve definitely seen interviews where he talked about it. I will say though, watching him play that night he did regularly like “regulate” his posture.
Awesome video with interesting aspects! About the intuition part however: I would argue that intuition is kind of like a well of knowledge which is not accessible by the rational mind, where knowledge from that source flows into you as the musical vessel. I think intellect is useful in categorizing and giving structure to the ideas which came to you intuitively, as well as make a descriptive sense of what you have experienced intuitively, but in my view intellect is the limiting factor not intuition. Therefore from my point of view Intuition (which definitely relies on new musical sources as inspiration) is definitely something which can catapult your playing to the next level and aids you on all levels you are on.
Thanks!! I think his whole thing is just to challenge yourself. Challenge what you know, what you think you can’t know. “Intuition”can be another word for “repetition” which can limit growth. Just how I interpret it anywho!
When you have source material with all permutation of perturbation, you can play around with ideas beyond what people typically think about. When your serious about something you do serious things in that pursuit. I imagine what one find doing that sort of thing is of limited utility. I imagine this is how he found his niche dorky itch that needed scratching. It isn't very endearing, unfortunately, trolling people you think suck, though that may not have been the original intent.
Hey Kyle - love your channel and content. I attended a Julian Lage master class a few weeks ago. One idea that he presented was to play a passage (he used a scale as an example) and as you play this - start relaxing both hands until your not playing cleanly any longer. It can sound like a mess, and that's OK. Then focus on applying just enough control to each hand to bring the scale back into focus. That relaxed, almost falling apart point, can help identify tension in the hands and arms, etc.
That’s great, and so sweet we both caught him on the same run. That’s some great advice. I do the same thing with just the left hand, but have never tried it in conjunction with my right. Def gonna have to give that a go, thanks dude!
Cool concept. The kind of thing that I think people arrive at by necessity after having hand issues over their career. Obviously, his FD caused him to explore some new ideas and challenge some beliefs. I think Julian is now a certified Alexander Technique instructor now, too. I continue to have many hand issues so I will try this idea.
If you're as good as Julian, all other channels are beginner channels.
Haha nice
You remind me of him, softly spoken and really enthusiastic about music and life!
Well shoot that’s a real nice compliment! Thanks bud!!
Saw his masterclass about two years ago, and he mentioned something about remembering just starting out at a pretty young age and how every new chord he learned felt like a miracle.
If you have ever taken a trip down a reaction rabbit hole - and be honest, we all have - watching other people experience something for the first time is the closest we can come to experiencing it for the first time ourselves. I bet there is quite a bit of that in his pastime of watching those just starting out - rekindling the mystery and miracle of that beginner’s mind.
I think its awesome to hear someone just play before they know ANYTHING! Wrong notes don't effect you but you aren't aware that's what happening! It's quite beautiful!
Dude totally.
Just wanted to drop a comment saying I love and appreciate this content.
I appreciate you!!
Those Bill Evans interviews are really interesting. He comes across so down to earth and free of snobb
you're such a rad guitar enthusiast-it's contagious, man! your outro was a crack-up too. ps, received my Iris OG custom a couple months back-very woody + rad!
Ha thanks man, good to know I’m in good company!! Congrats on the OG!!!!
Just a lovely guy Julian Lange. Love him SAs a person and boy his playing is something else
Also at that show. It was magical. Not my first time seeing him, but that was an unreal experience.
Dude niceeee. Yeah we were blown away.
@@kostringworks also, most of the first hour was broadcast on jazz 88 and I listened to it again on their site the other day. Jazz Impulse show archives if you want to relive the first 55 min. You'll want to scrub to the last hour of the show.
I've been working through the advancing guitarist for about 15 years. It's a masterpiece of musical education and one of the most important and well regarded guitar method books ever published.. I've come to realize that its true purpose is to condition us to a way of thinking deeply about the instrument (and maybe even life) with the ultimate goal of perfecting our own self teaching skills.
Mmmmn I like that, just starting on it now and I’m digging it! See ya in 15 years haha.
Great insights from the Masterclas Kyle. Julian is such an inspiration. I definitely recommend checking out the Almanac once you get time. It is a lifetime of work if you want it to be and can change how you view the guitar and music overnight. Thanks for your thoughts!
Dude, I just officially just started poking through the Almanac. Dang. Gonna be a lasting one I can already tell! Thanks for watching bud!
Thanks, Kyle 🙏🏻
A few years ago I attended an Ariel Posen clinic locally.
I felt like I was in over my head, and just sat in amazement as he played, explained his thoughts and processes, and in general was just a cool guy.
Julian Lage seems to be on that level, too. I think there's something to be said about his intuition and intention working together. It just flows. I know what we don't see is the hours upon hours spent refining his craft in the woodshed. That in and of itself is amazing to me.
I definitely need more time in the 'shed
Be good to you 🙏🏻🤍
Oh damn he’s another one. Haven’t seen him live before, but it’s nuts. Yeah man keep shedding, I’ll see you in there!
Nice hat!
I love this hat.
It was pleasant to listen to you, so I subscribed 😊
Ah thanks bud!!
this is a really great video
Ah thanks dude!!
If you’re playing a guitar solo and land on a wrong note, hit it again in a rhythmic fashion and you can make it sound good
Love Julian Lage… my favorite guy - says the most interesting things. I heard him talking one time and I still do about four things He talked about in a five minute throwaway conversation I mean, I don’t know it’s like listening to like a golden goose.
Amazing. Don’t leave us hanging tho,what are the four things 😂
Mick Goodrick is one of the key educators from the last I dunno say 50 years I guess. His book, the Advancing Guitarist takes a very logical and formal approach about how to explore the instrument and it is full of humour too. I think he may well have been Julian's teacher and even , I am guessing but I am sure I am right, Pat Metheney's teacher.
Thanks for sharing your interesting thoughts and experiences.
Didn’t know that!
Those GVE books are amazing and are definitely "heavy lifting". One of my teachers/friends took a few years to work through them top to bottom. It shows, my goodness.
I think I’m ready…I think! Haha.
@@kostringworks One small bite at a time to eat the elephant!
Remember I mentioned Julian a while back? We, commenters, can't really know you, watching fools me to think that. But no, I don't "know" you at all. Tuber- John Nathan Cordy recently began including his 19mo old little girl interact with his set pieces... and him. I could tell John's wife helps with the camera. If I name 3 more I sub to, then for me this is a trend. I have a beginner channel.... don't look. It's embarrassing. Now, 60+ years later, I take lessons in a 9 year old's books from a 25 year old teacher. It works for me. Decades ago, had a Master Class from John Hartford. 12 years ago, Master Class with Mike Dowling. I was the stage back-up rythm assistant. Penance for being 1 hour late to class. Michael got all 14 paying participants to wait an hour for me to drive across the Metro from Mound to St. Paul. What a guy!!! Lyle and I are retiring from P.& W. ministry in December. What's next? Live to play... Play to live... my play is Worship. Usually. You were always good to watch, and you are always getting better. Said it before, I admire what you've done and do. ADD... you know... makes it hard to focus. Today, first time I went to the Hennepin Cty Library in Mtka. First time I broke the barrier to focus on the books... a year later. Gotta build a paradigm to practice. Intuition? Sure. My key to improvisation is preparation. I've run long. Thanks Kyle... you are the right stuff!
That is so true like when I was in high school there are a few other guys that play guitar and then you would sit down and they show you a few things and you’d be like oh can you show me that riff or how do you do that and then it was like a big swap session where we would like show each other stuff and it’s one of my fondest memories of high school. Because a lot of other people wanted to know, but still it’s it was like really collaborative and really interesting. You know I can’t imagine trying to learn yourself on RUclips and like never play with people that just blows my mind. Occasionally, I teach beginners and like playing with other people next thing that you need to do and they’re just so hesitant to do it and I’m just thinking like how do you learn if you don’t play music with people you know like I always wanted to play songs in a band in front of a crowd and have girls clap that was always my goal. I don’t know what these guys goal is honestly
Yeah bud I think it’s big too! Of course it’s not everyone’s goal to play with people but there is something real special about hanging out with folks who care about the same thing you do, no matter what it is. Thanks for sharing!
Hmmm. What is intuition? Read effortless mastery by Kenny Werner. The essence of the idea is learn, internalize, listen and be open to what is going on around you if not playing solo, shut off the brain..,,the intent….and let the music flow. Is that playing by intuition or subconscious intent? From my experience my best playing i have heard on recordings, or based on crowd response or comments from musicians in the audience i had no idea what i played and in a lot of cases couldn’t play it again if i had to. Some of my playing was clearly driven by responding real time to other players. Intuition?
Hi Kyle, did he mention the Alexander Technique at all?
He didn’t but I’ve definitely seen interviews where he talked about it. I will say though, watching him play that night he did regularly like “regulate” his posture.
3:05 is this not as much of a thing anymore?
I took a poll recently and like 70% of people who watch these videos don’t take lessons and 30% used to but no longer do. Pretty interesting!
Surprised no one else knew van eps
Son of a banjo player, he must be victim of the effects of it I guess. 😂
@@kostringworks sounds about right 😂
Awesome video with interesting aspects! About the intuition part however:
I would argue that intuition is kind of like a well of knowledge which is not accessible by the rational mind, where knowledge from that source flows into you as the musical vessel.
I think intellect is useful in categorizing and giving structure to the ideas which came to you intuitively, as well as make a descriptive sense of what you have experienced intuitively, but in my view intellect is the limiting factor not intuition.
Therefore from my point of view Intuition (which definitely relies on new musical sources as inspiration) is definitely something which can catapult your playing to the next level and aids you on all levels you are on.
Thanks!! I think his whole thing is just to challenge yourself. Challenge what you know, what you think you can’t know. “Intuition”can be another word for “repetition” which can limit growth. Just how I interpret it anywho!
What kind of misconceptions did Julian point out among beginner guitar vids?
His main point was more of what they lacked than what they taught I think.
When you have source material with all permutation of perturbation, you can play around with ideas beyond what people typically think about. When your serious about something you do serious things in that pursuit. I imagine what one find doing that sort of thing is of limited utility. I imagine this is how he found his niche dorky itch that needed scratching. It isn't very endearing, unfortunately, trolling people you think suck, though that may not have been the original intent.
Jl trolling? If that were even possible it would probably be the nicest and sincere trolling you ever saw.