Homeopathy Explained - Gentle Healing or Reckless Fraud?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
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  • @kurzgesagt
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    • @btan9423
      @btan9423 5 лет назад +7

      First like

    • @oliviashim7688
      @oliviashim7688 5 лет назад +7

      Third like

    • @LoLugon
      @LoLugon 5 лет назад +8

      I love you

    • @Ken-py4pk
      @Ken-py4pk 5 лет назад +9

      Homeopathy us famous in India.

    • @yugal.prakash
      @yugal.prakash 5 лет назад +2

      The clock you used to represent time is from Don't Hug Me I'm Scared!!

  • @mrcartmanisfat
    @mrcartmanisfat 6 лет назад +32828

    Massive doses of homeopathy cured my dehydration

    • @jebolandutawacana
      @jebolandutawacana 6 лет назад +507

      Cartman you make my day.

    • @supremeleadersnoke2246
      @supremeleadersnoke2246 6 лет назад +908

      Sugar pills cured my hypo glycemic episode

    • @vicky__p
      @vicky__p 6 лет назад +600

      cartman I took some homeopathic pills to help me sleep and after only 23 hours awake, it worked!!

    • @joexer1
      @joexer1 6 лет назад +137

      As another has already said the amount of hydric acid they put in substances used in "homeopathy" is simply unacceptable. If you can be right about one thing please let it be to stay away from this horrible chemical. Just saying consumption of hydric acid is linked to some serious problems, it's unbelievable what we let into our bodies for the sake of mainstream 'science'.

    • @cryoraptora303tm2
      @cryoraptora303tm2 6 лет назад +157

      +Steve Nunyerbuisness It is a statistical fact that 100% of all people who consume hydric acid will die. WE MUST SPREAD THE WORD!

  • @AdonanS
    @AdonanS 5 лет назад +15789

    "Shaking the mixture after every dilution leaves behind a spirit like essence."
    *Science has left the chat*

    • @Attaxalotl
      @Attaxalotl 5 лет назад +613

      *Science has left the very concept, the very thought, of Homeopathy*

    • @paint2932
      @paint2932 4 года назад +267

      But it's essence is still there

    • @Wickedonezz
      @Wickedonezz 4 года назад +36

      @Brian Griffin sex is witchcraft?

    • @EstEsreil
      @EstEsreil 4 года назад +91

      @@Wickedonezz where did that idea come from?

    • @janetmissjacksonifyourenas2904
      @janetmissjacksonifyourenas2904 4 года назад +134

      There wasn’t any science there in the first place in that theory

  • @gren4586
    @gren4586 Год назад +2021

    "Faith can move mountains, but sugar water can't cure cancer" is my new favorite quote

    • @tadrnkpo7535
      @tadrnkpo7535 Год назад +16

      But antibiotics can give u resistance

    • @faisalmuneerone
      @faisalmuneerone Год назад +56

      @@tadrnkpo7535 homeo fraud spotted

    • @quantumcat7191
      @quantumcat7191 Год назад

      Funny, I am curing my cancer naturally. No faith involved. Just getting back to basics and using apricot seeds. Saved me a good 50k in treatment. No wonder the medical industry is so scared of people figuring health issues out for themselves.

    • @strnglhld
      @strnglhld Год назад +55

      @@tadrnkpo7535 at least antibiotics can do something🤣

    • @tadrnkpo7535
      @tadrnkpo7535 Год назад +2

      @@strnglhld yes MDR

  • @nausheenrahman8068
    @nausheenrahman8068 10 месяцев назад +52

    6:57
    attention and empathy from a doctor did make a huge difference in my mental well being.
    Many doctors refused to listen to my little problems , until one day i found a doctor who would listen to every single one of my problems and even noticed the symptoms on me. Now i really trust that doctor.

  • @AhsanKhan-xf7vs
    @AhsanKhan-xf7vs 4 года назад +5189

    30C dilution is how they put chips in Lays.

  • @TheEmolano
    @TheEmolano 2 года назад +10144

    I've take homeopathy once when I was young to alleviate my incurable bronchitis. It had good taste at least. Spoiler alert: my incurable bronchitis remained with me for 8 more years and was finally cured when my mom quit smoking.

    • @manasim.9936
      @manasim.9936 2 года назад +612

      I’m glad you’re doing better and that your mom finally quit! :)

    • @DanielAugustoCavalcante
      @DanielAugustoCavalcante 2 года назад +41

      e verdade esse bilete

    • @FabioSilvaMetal
      @FabioSilvaMetal 2 года назад +6

      A verdade é que funciona, mas não exatamente pra doenças físicas. Gringo tem noção praticamente nula disso, homeopatia costuma ser interessante pra problemas emocionais. Óbvio que se vc estiver com problemas físicos tu tem que tratar com o que funciona, mas é mto engraçado gringo se achando sabido sem entender nada kkkk

    • @TheEmolano
      @TheEmolano 2 года назад +229

      @@manasim.9936 ty, I was very happy for her and for myself. At least she din't smoke during the pregnancy. She is a health old lady today :)

    • @TheEmolano
      @TheEmolano 2 года назад +60

      @@FabioSilvaMetal se funciona para a pessoa, independente do motivo, excelente. O perigo é quando a pessoa insiste em um tratamento que não vai dar resultado. Se não for uma doença urgente vale a pena tentar.

  • @satan.is.my.copilot
    @satan.is.my.copilot Год назад +97

    This is by FAR the most patiently I've heard this explained. Without once being even remotely condescending. I'm kind of in awe. You're certainly better explainers than I am!
    It never occurred to me that a reason for homeopathy taking off could be that at a time when the available medicine might be just as likely to kill you as cure you, the homeopathic remedy itself is never going to be more harmful than sugar.

  • @phaze7272
    @phaze7272 Год назад +502

    I grew up with homeopathy. Any time I was sick, my mom would open up this huge book about homeopathy and researched what about my symptoms. Also, when the illness didn't go away or wasn't clear she talked about consulting with an expert on the topic. After learning about the actual process of how globuli is made it took a while for me to accept that it's all just placebo - even though I normally tend to question everything I'm being told. Just goes to show how strong some belief can become ingrained if that's what you grew up with.

    • @MurphyTheOldMan
      @MurphyTheOldMan Год назад +5

      then you're not the child your Mother is proud of .. shame

    • @supermansdaddy7019
      @supermansdaddy7019 Год назад +25

      @@MurphyTheOldMan How's that a shame?

    • @khwajamdasim7630
      @khwajamdasim7630 Год назад +5

      Doctors ask you even minute questions to know your sypmptoms better,as homeopathy works on symptoms,If the symptoms match the medicine ,the treatment is sure,,If does not match the symptom,no treatment. That is the reason they ask you several question just for correct medicine selection. It is not to have any time pass with you,, you believe in Allopath statement about Homeopathy,that is Placebo. Have research then have any opinion, first action of Homeopathy is Placebo which is brain control,,it does not rest on Placebo only,,further it proceeds to the other functions in order to cure the disease.Hope you 7nderstand

    • @thornyturtleranch6152
      @thornyturtleranch6152 Год назад +2

      Its not placebo, it works, energy imprint on molecules.

    • @zer0_o.
      @zer0_o. Год назад

      ​@@thornyturtleranch6152i believe thats true

  • @parkerroberts8179
    @parkerroberts8179 3 года назад +2091

    I love the “dont hug me in scared” clock.

    • @FadoWind
      @FadoWind 3 года назад +18

      Omg same here!!

    • @ThiagoMoura18
      @ThiagoMoura18 3 года назад +14

      Nossa, eu olhei duas vezes pra ter certeza que vi direito!

    • @SrGanso-tv6mw
      @SrGanso-tv6mw 3 года назад +3

      @@ThiagoMoura18 kkkkk

    • @horrorkitdoodles7866
      @horrorkitdoodles7866 3 года назад +3

      where? edit: nvm i see

    • @omarezwawi6407
      @omarezwawi6407 3 года назад +22

      I have scrolled down to the comments only to search for this one 😂

  • @soothingmusic8561
    @soothingmusic8561 3 года назад +3797

    Takes a sip of ocean water.
    *i have learned the secrets of the planet*

    • @theworldwrecker
      @theworldwrecker 3 года назад +106

      You also drank sh*t water.

    • @maitreyeenabar1754
      @maitreyeenabar1754 3 года назад +7

      This is like the school nurse...

    • @jeanpaulsinatra
      @jeanpaulsinatra 3 года назад +76

      As he swallowed a drop of ocean water, the sky went black. Lightning sprang from his body. His eyes turned radiant white as he levitated, and with a maniacal laugh, he bellowed:
      "I am the centrifuge of all the matter on earth! Every atom turns at my command! Nothing can stop me"
      Suddenly he curls up, sweating, sickly pale, and the shit eschews out of him like a riot hose.
      "...except apparently every E. Coli bacterium that has ever lived"

    • @sohamdhoke
      @sohamdhoke 3 года назад +4

      *coughs* fkin salt

    • @mokshjoardar5126
      @mokshjoardar5126 3 года назад

      Rengoku trippin

  • @m.i7211
    @m.i7211 Год назад +184

    My mom had a plastic pill case that held a lot of tiny bottles of homeopathy pellets and would give them to me when I was feeling pain or discomfort. I didn’t really believe they were medicine even at that time, but the act of her giving me the homeopathy showed that my mom cared and sympathized for me and I think that made me feel better mentally.
    Thankfully my mom only used homeopathy for minor stuff like stomach aches or growing pains and took me to the doctor for more serious ailments, so I only have fond memories of homeopathy.

    • @mitchellmorris1213
      @mitchellmorris1213 Год назад +7

      my mom had the exact same kit

    • @dfwdfw9544
      @dfwdfw9544 Год назад +19

      That's an excellent example of the placebo effect. Really. No sarcasm. And children are excellent candidates for placebo effect treatments given how little ability they have to distinguish a minor ailment from a major injury.

    • @Jamaldidntdoit
      @Jamaldidntdoit Год назад +3

      Same with me, except that my mom was the doctor itself, so she had an entire collection of medicines.

    • @bullymaguire7341
      @bullymaguire7341 6 месяцев назад +2

      Shit that's lovely 😢 wish I had a mom like that when ever I get sick she says it's cause of that damn phone😅

    • @NaturesInfiniteWELLth-fo6rs
      @NaturesInfiniteWELLth-fo6rs 23 часа назад

      I stay far away from medical doctors… trained by big pharma who just want to sell toxic drugs that do not promote health. No money in that. I use homeopathy and have seen it work winders on myself, and my family. I was going to study homeopathy and chose wholistic nutrition instead. Real Food including herbs etc is the only medicine we need, along with healthier lifestyle, and not the garbage being sold as ‘food’.

  • @ottoia9126
    @ottoia9126 Год назад +229

    Oh, I hate homeopathy with burning passion. I once got a staphilococcus that kept spreading as my dear mother kept tugging me around healers and fed sugar pills. It got to the point of my eyes welding shut with pus every morning and having actual troubles eating because my lips were crusted with pus and skinless underneath - and I'm pretty sure like half of my mental illnesses come from that experience. Thank god and that one cat for inventing antibiotics and thank my grandma for taking me to an actual doctor. The infection was subdued in like a week after a month of unchecked spreading. Anyways, if I see another homeopathy affictionado I will start swinging - these hands held trust and respect at some point, maybe the trace amounts will be felt.

    • @dfwdfw9544
      @dfwdfw9544 Год назад +24

      Your mother may have loved you but she was negligent.

    • @mercuryfillings8576
      @mercuryfillings8576 Год назад +1

      What an insult to people who've actually gone through real things

    • @ungratefulmango
      @ungratefulmango Год назад +49

      @@mercuryfillings8576 You don't have to compare one person's trauma to another's.
      There will always be someone in a worse situation. That doesn't mean the rest of us should be invalidated.
      Everyone's experience is real and we all have the right to be heard. If you don't care about someone else's troubles, you can just keep scrolling. ❤️

    • @lego7315
      @lego7315 Год назад +3

      Well I had PCOS and it got cured with homeopathic medicines. It took some time but it worked.

    • @ithalpallath6770
      @ithalpallath6770 Год назад +3

      @@lego7315 mostly likely cured by lifestyle changes and food eating habits which is the only cure for PCOS

  • @tjfm2456
    @tjfm2456 2 года назад +5640

    One of the best examples of the transferable placebo effect I observed in my psychology class was the case of a horse that could supposedly do math. By accident, I suppose they mentioned a math problem around a horse that then stamped its foot the number of times that equaled the answer. Obviously they were super excited and kept trying, and the horse kept getting it right. But the horse simply would keep stamping until the owners got visibly excited, at which point he stopped and was rewarded. The only math equation this horse knew was “stomp foot, get treats.”

    • @Songs-lr4wt
      @Songs-lr4wt 2 года назад +6

      Why don't you reach or watch the other side too. This is one sided. Homeopathy is a science too, based on real evidences. Goes through similar tests for approval like any other drug. And being a user, it works.

    • @acelbrothers2.058
      @acelbrothers2.058 2 года назад +155

      @@Songs-lr4wt realy?

    • @lakzury9293
      @lakzury9293 2 года назад +279

      @@Songs-lr4wt source? Just trust me bro?

    • @trithos7308
      @trithos7308 2 года назад +173

      @@Songs-lr4wt I mean, if the placebo sugar pills help you, that's cool. Don't try to justify your bullshit believes though

    • @MrBjorntsc
      @MrBjorntsc 2 года назад +82

      @@Songs-lr4wt the Tabacco companies did the same thing... at least homeopathic medicine doesn't directly kill people.

  • @famimame
    @famimame 5 лет назад +2733

    "Homeopath IS big pharma"
    *TOP 10 ANIME PLOT TWIST*

  • @Aqua-vf3jr
    @Aqua-vf3jr Год назад +13

    When I was a kid, my mom often used homeopathy for my colds, and it worked well for most. But she never denied actual medication from me when needed, if I got very sick.

  • @dr.robert5322
    @dr.robert5322 Год назад +45

    This video beautifully expresses my thoughts on homeopathy and the problem with modern medicine. As a doctor, I see how patients are treated as numbers and not people. Homeopathy is a scam but it addressess the need people have to be listened to and validated. Every day I have patients tell me how they feel better after simply talking to me. Unfortunately that is becoming more and more rare in "modern medicine" where you're lucky to see a PA or nurse practitioner, much less a doctor.

    • @localgrassfieldboneshandler
      @localgrassfieldboneshandler 10 месяцев назад +2

      I feel exactly the same, and it really is unfortunate because there's too many patients.

  • @harshitnayan
    @harshitnayan 5 лет назад +7893

    You can't make a video without mentioning black hole, can you?

    • @FuckGoogle2
      @FuckGoogle2 5 лет назад +348

      Black holes are tight!

    • @user-vv1do1wg1j
      @user-vv1do1wg1j 4 года назад +128

      @@FuckGoogle2 yes. Yes they are

    • @AC-fl1le
      @AC-fl1le 4 года назад +47

      Its like how Ceave can't go a video without mentioning money

    • @hul0beral
      @hul0beral 4 года назад +47

      @@FuckGoogle2 Understood that reference!

    • @thechosenbossk4352
      @thechosenbossk4352 4 года назад +53

      Well it is super easy, barely an inconvenience

  • @rishabagarwal3628
    @rishabagarwal3628 3 года назад +4064

    Only Kurzgesagt can include blackholes in a video about Homeopathy

    • @generalcodsworth4417
      @generalcodsworth4417 2 года назад +39

      Would like to talk about our lords and saviors, the mass driver system and tethers in the Venus video?

    • @sogasakoo
      @sogasakoo 2 года назад +26

      I mean homeopathy already has plotholes so...

    • @ericmars9354
      @ericmars9354 2 года назад +17

      @@sogasakoo Oh, and maybe that plot hole is as big as a black hole...

    • @villager1831
      @villager1831 2 года назад +13

      @@ericmars9354 or dense

    • @ericmars9354
      @ericmars9354 2 года назад +13

      @@villager1831 That's even better.

  • @Iknowthismeme
    @Iknowthismeme Год назад +105

    I’m not a fan of homeopathy, but I agree on using homemade/natural solutions for *minor* problems, like milk and honey for a throat ache, or a bit of hot soup and rest for a fever (obviously if it’s only 37-38 C). A fundamental part of it is not to be excessively worried or stressed because of something like a runny nose.

    • @doc_vader2776
      @doc_vader2776 Год назад +1

      Everyone likes to believe in home remedies untill is an actually serious disease.

    • @akikmahato999
      @akikmahato999 Год назад

      That's Ayurveda basically... On the other hand, Homeopathy is a scam !

    • @dennisschumacher4772
      @dennisschumacher4772 Год назад +38

      That is fine, has nothing to do with homopeopathy though

    • @octaviantudor
      @octaviantudor Год назад +27

      Milk, honey and soup have active ingredients. Or should I say - they have ingredients.

    • @akshatchawla3
      @akshatchawla3 5 месяцев назад

      that’s naturopathy

  • @backslash68
    @backslash68 Год назад +19

    Homeopathy is useful for this: when a doctor or a pharmacist recommend it, you instantly get to know how much they understand about science.

    • @_capu
      @_capu Год назад +1

      that's untrue
      don't you know scientists are just normal people having their own beliefs? about anything, which isn't scientifically proven
      And this doesn't make them magically lose all their knowledge

    • @aloedg3191
      @aloedg3191 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@_capuThey dont "magically lose knowledge" because they never had any if they believe in homeopathy after completing medical school

    • @anikkamila7434
      @anikkamila7434 6 дней назад

      ​@@aloedg3191You must know a lot of great homoeopathic doctors who are still very popular for their works used to be an antipathic doctor and had lots of hate towards homoeopathy and they started to know homoeopathy to criticize it. But later when they understood homoeopathy they became great and did a lot of works

    • @anikkamila7434
      @anikkamila7434 6 дней назад

      One thing i must say is homoeopathy is mostly unknown to most of the people even this video is talking nonsense. Homoeopathy has its science and i can say if you all know about the modern science well and just change your perspective then you all will understand how homoeopathy works. It's just lack of actual information in the internet that's spreading this hate and making people say that homoeopathy is bullshit.

  • @kurzgesagt
    @kurzgesagt  6 лет назад +1077

    Since a few people asked about German exclusive content and Patreon: The German public broadcast is giving us extra resources to make *more* stuff that we will publish first in German and then in English after a few months. Without their funds we could never afford to do anything in German or any other language. We still use Patreon to, well, survive and do the english channel. So english speaking crowd: What this means is that there will be extra videos at the end of the year and next year!

    • @davidwilson7557
      @davidwilson7557 6 лет назад +1

      DO IT NOW

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      @EPhantom125 6 лет назад +29

      Thank you Germany

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      Kurzgesagt i think it's great that you've obtained funding to do that. Meanwhile, i'll just await your regular videos as and when they appear. Your videos are always interesting, not to mention very very well made.

    • @prashantgaikwad9808
      @prashantgaikwad9808 6 лет назад +1

      Sellout .. just kidding ... U do u kurzgesagt

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      @ale_wlv 6 лет назад +17

      I dont really mind if the video is in german, since its got superior quality. But I'd be very happy if you just make subtitles for it.

  • @Alistocrat
    @Alistocrat 6 лет назад +673

    "Faith can move mountains,
    but sugar water can't cure cancer"
    Truth.

    • @PrivateSlacker
      @PrivateSlacker 6 лет назад +8

      Now I have a craving for chocolate donuts.

    • @awertyuiop8711
      @awertyuiop8711 6 лет назад +1

      Sad but true...

    • @dyanpanda7829
      @dyanpanda7829 6 лет назад +4

      Except it probably can, if you have faith in the sugar water. Working at an alternative practice, the amount of times I've heard of cancers, disorders, and diagnosed diseases that were "obviously not real, since you're better now" from peoples GP is absurd.
      I'm not saying homeopathy/water directly cures or helps anything beyond hydration. What I'm saying is, homeopathics fit a niche that provides actual help to people. It is not a cold remedy. I have seen patients who have been through several chemo plans w/o help, and come back from a vision quest healthy. The positives that come with a positive outlook are undeniable, and plentiful.

    • @Elvispayne123
      @Elvispayne123 6 лет назад +1

      u will see in next few years cancer will not gonna b so big its a scam on vast level a lot of money associate in this business

    • @Alistocrat
      @Alistocrat 6 лет назад +5

      Considering your grammar I can tell you're very intelligent and know what you're talking about.

  • @hex2344
    @hex2344 Год назад +92

    Had bronchitis for 6 years. Took homoeopathic medicine for 1 year and I'd get better during a particular season and then had attack again. It got cured this year when I moved away from Delhi. Turns out it was pollen and pollution causing it. Took me a while to realise the entire situation. Turns out the belief that "I can get better" does wonders. As I'm sure it did in 1800s for people when proven remedies were non existent

    • @aude.sapere
      @aude.sapere Год назад +2

      In Organon of medicine it's written that the physician should also focus on the cause of disease and he should remove that cause. In your case pollen and bad quality of air was the cause of your bronchitis.
      The simple point of Hahnemann was that why we drug a person if he can be cured by removing the exciting cause of the disease. If you would have went to an allopath then he would have prescribed you anti allergy, anti inflammatory and medicines which can dilate your bronchi. So removing the exciting cause is better than making your body a dump ground of medicine.

    • @strnglhld
      @strnglhld Год назад +3

      @@aude.sapere What if you remove all causes and the problem still exists?

    • @ram_4441
      @ram_4441 Год назад

      How frequently did you get bronchitis?

    • @dschatt_
      @dschatt_ 7 месяцев назад

      It's very similar for me. I used to get asthma randomly throughout the year, but after continuing homeopathy for like 2 years, and after COVID, it's only got restricted to only the late autumn to early winter days. For the remaining I'm completely fine no backlashes👍

    • @Envrionmela
      @Envrionmela 6 месяцев назад

      "My doctor prescribed me these cigarettes for my asthma but I still have dyspnea"

  • @rajeevsisodiya1822
    @rajeevsisodiya1822 Год назад +61

    I had sinusitis and my nose used to be blocked every day ,i wasnt able to live without nasal sprays , after taking homeopathy since then i forgot about my nasal congestion, it worked like magic .

    • @prernabharti1658
      @prernabharti1658 Год назад +4

      Bro my father and brother have that problem its not curing with homeopathy also

    • @arctagonsV8
      @arctagonsV8 Год назад

      good for you👍

    • @w_sumit
      @w_sumit Год назад +3

      Can you share the medicine name?

    • @adarsh-singh-bisen
      @adarsh-singh-bisen Год назад +8

      I had a post-nasal drip and regular coughing issue . I used a lot of allopathy but it persisted. After few months I turned to homeopath and got cured by it within a month. In my childhood I had nose blockage which was cured by homeopathy.

    • @kaushy
      @kaushy Год назад +2

      @@prernabharti1658 go to an actual doc

  • @bushyman477
    @bushyman477 6 лет назад +4002

    Sugar water can't cure cancer? Well not with that attitude buddy...

    • @bushyman477
      @bushyman477 6 лет назад +209

      ..what? I think ya missed the joke

    • @Rebellum1
      @Rebellum1 6 лет назад +190

      Of course sugar can cure and even prevent cancer! Proof: everyone in my family has a massive sweet tooth, and not one of us has cancer. Check mate, big pharma!!111!

    • @borealis312
      @borealis312 6 лет назад +58

      Modern medicine can cure cancer( early stages) my motherhad cancer and she is well and good now.

    • @SavAnna8
      @SavAnna8 6 лет назад +5

      Rebellum1 Don't you assume that you're just lucky? 😁 Template thinking...

    • @shrikesavadithya6683
      @shrikesavadithya6683 6 лет назад +26

      Sarcasm is a major component of today's speech. It is now at a rise. Also sugar causes cancer. Due to the way sucrose is broken down and it feeds cancerous cells. Oncogenes do exist. ATP synthesis is valuable. But causes lots of issues too. There is reason we consume Antooxidatens.
      Not directing the info at you madam but at the other guy. If he thinks sugar isn't that bad for you. Or if he knows then hurray. More knowledge for everyone

  • @1..0w0..3
    @1..0w0..3 4 года назад +1595

    Homeopathy took the dragon scroll from kung fu panda too literally.....
    *"To make something special, u just believe it's special. There is no secret ingredient."*

    • @dipanjanghosal1662
      @dipanjanghosal1662 4 года назад +18

      And it works for simpler ailments

    • @thomas_2the_lynott146
      @thomas_2the_lynott146 4 года назад +15

      Well it’s not going to work for anyone who watched this now

    • @dipanjanghosal1662
      @dipanjanghosal1662 4 года назад +21

      @@thomas_2the_lynott146 it can still work. I think placebo is subconscious related. Even if you consciously know its ineffective, your subconscious mind might still beleive it works.

    • @onetwo3706
      @onetwo3706 4 года назад +15

      RUclips has a seizure when you were entering your username

    • @georgioskesisoglou1055
      @georgioskesisoglou1055 4 года назад +7

      wtf is wrong with your name?

  • @sayantanbanerjee
    @sayantanbanerjee Год назад

    One thing I absolutely love about these videos are there is always a beautiful and meaningful message at the end of the video.

  • @honeybadger036
    @honeybadger036 8 месяцев назад +16

    I grew up with Homeopathy, whether it was placebo or something else, I recall one instance of having a cold, all the symptoms. Our doctor gave me something and within seconds, it all disappeared. Never had it work like that before or after that one time. It was magical. All that being said, I swear by Nux Vomica, works wonders for anything related to the digestive system. Nausea, heartburn, upset stomach, diarrhoea, constipation, winds. Well, its always worked for me.

    • @C_Becker
      @C_Becker 3 месяца назад

      Sounds like a wonder. And is therefore completely worthless.

    • @nimratalha8828
      @nimratalha8828 2 дня назад

      Is there any cure of deafness??

  • @Numberer1
    @Numberer1 6 лет назад +10485

    I love the manner in which you approached this topic. It would be so easy to say something like "Homeopathy is dumb and doesn't work", yet you looked at it with pure facts and considered the pros and cons in a fairly neutral manner.
    Some members of my family swear by this 'natural cure-all spray' (which I'm almost certain is just tap water), but since the placebo effect of the spray actually helps them, I avoid saying anything about it.
    However, what's to stop people from re-selling Tic-Tacs and claiming them as anti-cancer pills? There's definitely a 'snake-oil salesman' aspect to this movement which I cannot respect. It's not difficult to profit from the ignorant.

    • @Numberer1
      @Numberer1 6 лет назад +206

      Someone's a bit grumpy. Need a hug?

    • @dualiron2449
      @dualiron2449 6 лет назад +58

      Numberer1;
      A true god among us. He is the numberer1 human on this planet for all of humanity's meme tax.
      God isn't dead; he is reborn! And he watches In A Nutshell! Seems awfully human too.

    • @geeky.6449
      @geeky.6449 6 лет назад +50

      I want a hug.

    • @Numberer1
      @Numberer1 6 лет назад +70

      (I also use this account as my general viewing account...and I watch at least 30 videos a day. It's a ritual at this point.)

    • @Numberer1
      @Numberer1 6 лет назад +62

      Consider yourself hugged

  • @Zenedoboz
    @Zenedoboz 2 года назад +7505

    Being against vaccines while strongly believing in 'like cures like' principle... isn't this the most ironic thing ever?

    • @aa-tx7th
      @aa-tx7th 2 года назад +156

      what a wacky world

    • @highasheaven9239
      @highasheaven9239 2 года назад +692

      Antivaxx... What I find funny is that if you show a scientist proof that he is wrong, he'll analyse it and change his mind. However proving antivaxx/homeopathy fans they're wrong simply reinforces their beliefs

    • @Zenedoboz
      @Zenedoboz 2 года назад +243

      @@charans6873 The whole concept of vaccination is to put viral molecules or parts of molecular structures into the body so the immune system can learn to recognize the virus before the infection. It doesn't get any closer to 'like' than this. Heck, in some cases it is the inert virus itself what they use as antigene. Lol.

    • @charans6873
      @charans6873 2 года назад +32

      @@Zenedoboz i know all this already.. lol
      You need to study first.. like in homoeopathy is the SYMPTOM. healthy human body not having any symptom cannot be considered as like.
      I know you will still not get its ok it happens.. you need to take baryta carb

    • @Zenedoboz
      @Zenedoboz 2 года назад +303

      @@charans6873 I'm not sure you can tell the difference, but reading up on something online does not count as studying. Just as taking a sugar pill will not make your brain develop. So take your chill pill and leave the medicine to the grownups, ok?

  • @loudtim265
    @loudtim265 Год назад +7

    I like how 10X sounds like a concentration but actually means dilution. Tricky, tricky….

  • @NaeemaJannat-oe1px
    @NaeemaJannat-oe1px 7 месяцев назад +104

    As a homeopathic doctor, what my mother always says is "homeopathy is the medicine for patients, not for diseases" which is why she talks for hours with her patients knowing "them" not their "disease"❤

    • @antiquorumomnipraesens7608
      @antiquorumomnipraesens7608 7 месяцев назад +4

      The best thing I read today

    • @Juicelord001
      @Juicelord001 7 месяцев назад +36

      Yeah it takes communication skills to fool the patient, because homeopathy can't.

    • @DrGKGyan
      @DrGKGyan 7 месяцев назад

      Then why this placebo effect doesn't through so-called modern medicine?
      Most of the people turn to homoeopathy after being disappointed from many practitioners of so-called modern medicine and get cured. They had no beleif or faith in homoeopathy in the begining, so they tried allopathy again and again with trmendous faith.
      If the faith is the cause of the placebo effect, then why it didn't occur during allopathy management?
      Most of the people come to homoeopathy after being disappointed from any medicine and they have doubts in their mind. How this so-called placebo effect which didn't act earlier, not shows results?
      To answer these questions, one needs common sense, which is not common in common people. Scoience without conscience is not only fruitless, but it may be dangerous too!
      @@Juicelord001

    • @saeentist-hb
      @saeentist-hb 6 месяцев назад

      "Homeosapiens" 😉

    • @aude.sapere
      @aude.sapere 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@Juicelord001cry kiddo.

  • @MrSpektyr
    @MrSpektyr 5 лет назад +1237

    Ok but that was the clock from "Don't hug me I'm scared"...

    • @diegorapaci668
      @diegorapaci668 5 лет назад +80

      I THOUGHT THE SAME THING

    • @Pingviinimursu
      @Pingviinimursu 5 лет назад +52

      I had to check the original video to see I'm not crazy and yes, only a few details differ. Coincidence? Didn't think so.

    • @davinky6114
      @davinky6114 5 лет назад +94

      Time is a tool you can put on the wall
      Or wear it on your wrist
      The past is far behind us;
      The future doesn't exist

    • @anewviewofthings4105
      @anewviewofthings4105 5 лет назад +37

      @@davinky6114 Flashbacks to existential crisis episode:
      Me: *Cursed screaming*

    • @slip4329
      @slip4329 5 лет назад +34

      *Time is important and I am a clock.*

  • @awoodenkiwitoy6293
    @awoodenkiwitoy6293 5 лет назад +610

    The best quote ever, "faith can move mountains, but sugar water can't cure cancer"

    • @ivanbryan5348
      @ivanbryan5348 4 года назад +18

      christians be like ""You had us on first half, not gonna lie"

    • @agctony123
      @agctony123 4 года назад +3

      Sugar water has actually cured cancer... Placebo effect, check at the spontanious remission database... Inform yourself

    • @eduarddez4416
      @eduarddez4416 4 года назад +10

      @@agctony123 Many of us know what the placebo effect is , but I am not sure about the part when you said "cured cancer". The person no longer had cancer without doing chemoterapy ? Doctors use the placebo effect example when the person has a severe head ache but he/she has no real disease,they will convince him/her that they will give him a very strong medicine which will cure his head ache but instead it's just a sugar tablet . We had a neighbor who said that their cancer was cured because of some "miraculous plant" who was believing in all this homeopathic bs,saying that he never did and chemoterapy .He kept bragging about this on the internet etc. but died next month (I don't know the person but my parents do and told me about this).

    • @WyattRodebaugh
      @WyattRodebaugh 4 года назад +1

      No no no, a spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down.

  • @happysoul13
    @happysoul13 Год назад +12

    I had a skin infection which was very bad and even the skin specialist could do nothing,it was bad for 9 months however it got cured within a month when i switched to homeopathy...it was way better and now its completely cured

    • @julesdomes6064
      @julesdomes6064 Год назад +2

      The sugar and water certainly had no effect.
      You need properly conducted clinical studies to document an effect, and homeopathy fails miserably.

    • @bendover7841
      @bendover7841 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@julesdomes6064but if it works, it works. Life is short. People need a cure.

  • @eliannevdlinden6047
    @eliannevdlinden6047 Год назад +1

    I didn’t even know what this was! Learn something new every day. I do know how powerful a placebo effect can be. It’s really cool how much the mind can influence reality

  • @gooberboyxdd323
    @gooberboyxdd323 6 лет назад +696

    ah yes, diluting things makes them more potent. I remember that lesson in chemistry class. It came right after the one about how snorting thermite and then igniting it will give you super strength.

    • @almostbutnotentirelyunreas166
      @almostbutnotentirelyunreas166 6 лет назад

      Wiki: Hormesis.

    • @werewolf4358
      @werewolf4358 6 лет назад +51

      Is _that_ why I don't have superpowers yet? I haven't snorted thermite? Well hot damn, I wish someone would've told me this earlier, I'll try it now!

    • @Swordofswordom
      @Swordofswordom 6 лет назад +40

      THE best superhero background story.

    • @svalfish1716
      @svalfish1716 6 лет назад +32

      if you mix fuel, metal oxide and metal powder in just the right way, it burns at over 2000 degrees Celsius. Hot enough to cut through any barrier known to mankind. Throw in some C4 into the mix, and you've got one hell of a combination
      - Thermite 2015

    • @jogandsp
      @jogandsp 6 лет назад +10

      That’s how you become Iron Man, right?

  • @SudeeshSubramanian
    @SudeeshSubramanian 5 лет назад +1646

    Don't drop the homeopathy bottle outside while it rains, you will create a very potent homeopathy flood

  • @quantummedical4155
    @quantummedical4155 Год назад +2

    What an extraordinary video, for everyone's understanding!Great job👍

  • @PsDani
    @PsDani Год назад +15

    What a great video!
    The use of homeopathy basically comes down to placebo effect, which I feel is often unjustly made fun of. It is a potent effect and a tribute to the powers of the human mind. It is not just making yourself believe that some medicine you're taking is effective, but has much greater implications.
    There has been a study done on the placebo effect that researched, how patients with headaches respond to aspirin or placebo. Pretty standard procedure, but the researchers went a step further. Instead of leaving the patients doubting whether they got the medicine, they actively told the patients that they were getting a placebo. What is amazing to me is that even though the patients knew they were ingesting an aspirin-free pill, their headaches got better comparable to them not knowing whether they got the placebo or the real deal.
    Truly astounding with lots of implications for modern therapy.

  • @Xanitrit_Zeo
    @Xanitrit_Zeo 2 года назад +3011

    The creator of Homeopathy created the rules that helped the patient more than the actual treatment itself.

    • @Triattt
      @Triattt Год назад +388

      The main reason homeopathy got a foothold in medicine. The guy who made up that water has memory and will cure you, also forced their patients to have a minimum hygiene, stop consuming tobacco, alcohol and hard to digest foods, etc... No wonder so many of his patients would have improvements. They were also pretty hydrated.

    • @Puschit1
      @Puschit1 Год назад +180

      And at the same time he had plenty of reasons/excuses if it didn't work. I mean, who is able to follow all of those rules? You can be pretty sure that, after a week, your patient will have broken at least one rule which means he can always say it didn't work because of this.

    • @PoliticalMatter
      @PoliticalMatter Год назад +6

      But Patient must be fool in the first place for it to work?

    • @jujuman9431
      @jujuman9431 Год назад +33

      Stomach upsets , swellings in lymph nodes , etc . has been cured for me by homeopathy .
      So I guess the perfect solution is -- homeopathy for mild disorders and original medicines for more severe cases .
      I should protect my placebo at all costs

    • @Triattt
      @Triattt Год назад

      @@jujuman9431 Yeah, homeopathy cured my cold after only 1 week of treatment /s

  • @capdelaxavineta6267
    @capdelaxavineta6267 5 лет назад +616

    basically expensive water

    • @speenta4879
      @speenta4879 5 лет назад +1

      sol walker what lol

    • @carterwilliams7106
      @carterwilliams7106 5 лет назад +1

      Some (very specific homeopathics and plants) have compounds that do somthing. All others are are just placebo

    • @JacketCK
      @JacketCK 5 лет назад +6

      @sol walker you fucked up the joke lol it's dihydrogen monoxide

    • @JacketCK
      @JacketCK 5 лет назад +1

      For those wondering dihydrogen monoxide is the scientific term for Water

    • @Hannah-ds2bl
      @Hannah-ds2bl 5 лет назад +1

      Fiji water

  • @j4s0n39
    @j4s0n39 6 месяцев назад +10

    Calling homeopathy "alternative medicine" is like calling death an alternate lifestyle.

  • @RhelrahneTheIdiot
    @RhelrahneTheIdiot Год назад +4

    Potentization flies in the face of physics itself, a substance does not get stronger by diluting it and realistically you can dilute even the strongest of poisons and substances until they have no effects at all, not even in changing the color.

    • @julesdomes6064
      @julesdomes6064 Год назад

      Yes, it's just a bizarre fantasy.
      And the fantasy they present that the water has "memory", so it "remembers" that it once was in contact with a substance before it was diluted to zero.
      Since water is in an never ending cycle, I guess it also "remembers" when it was in the sewers? 😱

  • @dascientist8443
    @dascientist8443 6 лет назад +1606

    I try to limit how often I make homeopathy jokes, because it makes them stronger.

  • @KSIDDHESH
    @KSIDDHESH 4 года назад +2621

    Faith can move mountains , but sugar water can't cure cancer
    - Kurzgesagt

    • @dr.manojkpatil405
      @dr.manojkpatil405 4 года назад +22

      Do even know the meaning of cancer?
      People like you really chutiya

    • @viniciusdonadio948
      @viniciusdonadio948 4 года назад +99

      @@dr.manojkpatil405 go fuck yourself

    • @XqClovr
      @XqClovr 4 года назад +47

      Dr. Manoj K Patil literally shut up

    • @dr.manojkpatil405
      @dr.manojkpatil405 4 года назад +16

      @@viniciusdonadio948
      & you go fuck with steriods & antibiotics

    • @dr.manojkpatil405
      @dr.manojkpatil405 4 года назад +6

      @@XqClovr You cant shut the facts

  • @shrutigupta250
    @shrutigupta250 Год назад +27

    My grandad had studied homeopathy, and practiced it just for close family. I don't know the science behind it but I have seen this sugar water cure extreme allergies which were going on for decades. From scalp infections to chronic urticaria, it could be placebo but as someone who had tried all medicines and given up hope and was forced by parents to try it, with absolutely 0 faith it in working out, it actually did help.
    I want to study it in the future too, just to understand the sheer logic behind how it works. It might not replace modern medicine and it's possible that you might need the appendectomy more than sugar pills, but personally, whenever modern medicine raised its hands in defeat, this alternate medicine has worked wonders.

    • @shaquibalikhan6151
      @shaquibalikhan6151 Год назад +2

      yes , it gave me a new life .

    • @manu1434u
      @manu1434u Год назад +1

      Yes it works wonders for some chronic diseases, the homeopathy doctor my father knows has Vitiligo, and it he self medicated and it took him 10 years of consistent use for his skin to return to normal. A friend of his who had the same issue tried homepathy for a couple months and then switched to allopathic medicine had it spread to all his body.

    • @nimratalha8828
      @nimratalha8828 2 дня назад

      ​@@manu1434uis there any cure of deafness in homeopathy

  • @uxleumas
    @uxleumas 3 года назад +1282

    original homeopathy be like "okay, so you need to listen to a set of rules that basically is a very healthy lifestyle, but here's a pill which cures you and totally not the diet."

    • @Alblaka
      @Alblaka 3 года назад +132

      I'm still not certain whether it's about having a very healthy lifestyle (because stuff like not napping or sitting is a bit weird), or about creating an essentially impossible to obey instruction, which you can then use as defense when the medicine didn't work, because it's almost certain they made at least one 'mistake' somewhere.

    • @haughtywillow2499
      @haughtywillow2499 3 года назад +14

      Honestly, the second version is way better. It forces less stress on the patient.
      Reading that sentence makes you realize how hard it is to change a person’s behavior for health.
      Reading that sentence makes you evaluate the health care’s efforts to change patient behavior. One comes to the conclusion that doctors haven’t yet mastered this art.
      After you closely read your conclusion, you realize how similar to the one in the video.

    • @generalcodsworth4417
      @generalcodsworth4417 3 года назад +49

      @@Alblaka That is probably the key. Set up extremely strict rules that, if followed, could give the result that you can then attribute to your fake pills. Then if your fake pills don't work, blame the victim for their own failure to follow your rules.

    • @riyuzakhi
      @riyuzakhi 3 года назад +2

      Why do you sciecy schmuks believe that placebo effects work then?..double standard piece of shts..

    • @pepino2263
      @pepino2263 3 года назад +30

      @@riyuzakhi placebo effect has existed for thousands of years my guy

  • @shashankkumar2195
    @shashankkumar2195 4 года назад +583

    Had eczema on the toes and scalp for 8 years. Got fed up with it from year 3, but couldn't do anything because i was a kid. The homeopathic doctor kept telling that it has a tendency to bounce back. I had a miserable school life because of this disease. Eczema on the scalp meant no social life as i was embarrassed to the ground. I couldn't eat many things because the fu@king doctor advised against them, like curd, limes, tamarinds, onions and what not. Got out of home in 11th class. Visited the best University hospital in the city. Was Cured in 3 months. 9 years on today, it hasn't bounced back.

    • @DavidBoycePiano
      @DavidBoycePiano 4 года назад +62

      Very sorry to hear about the miserable time you had when younger. I know how much eczema can degrade quality of life. I'm glad to know that with appropriate treatment you got so much better.

    • @dboxers1164
      @dboxers1164 4 года назад +18

      Getting out of home cured you. Not the big hospital. Bet you didn't go back home. Thats why you're still cured 9 years on.

    • @flamingpi2245
      @flamingpi2245 4 года назад +67

      DBox Ers
      Mainstream medicine is just medicine that’s been made in the most efficient safe and proven form. Herbal remedies simply contain chemicals which are also used in a purer form in regular scientific medicine. Crystal healing and astrology just bubkis, neither rocks or colossal balls of plasma many light years away care about your “chakra alignment” or your “spiritual journey”

    • @dboxers1164
      @dboxers1164 4 года назад +8

      Ravenclaw . No mention of chakra alignment or spiritual journey in my reply. So you brought up imaginative & fictional points to be argumentative. Says a lot about where you will end up with an attitude like that. And, additionally, if you think Big Pharma cares about you, you really do need some enlightenment.

    • @reyhan0447
      @reyhan0447 4 года назад +44

      @@dboxers1164 its true that they don't care about your well being. but hey atleast they really work unlike some pseudo scam

  • @illuminatedodds-shininglig5028
    @illuminatedodds-shininglig5028 Год назад +1

    The ‘it was time’ reference literally had me in tears 😂💯

  • @azalty
    @azalty Год назад

    Really good video on the subject! Thanks for explaining it!

  • @billmalcolm4291
    @billmalcolm4291 6 лет назад +687

    The best point this video makes isn't whether homeopathy is bunk, of course it is. No, the best point it makes is about the modern healthcare industry needing to address psychological needs as much as homeopaths do.

    • @deniskobozev3916
      @deniskobozev3916 6 лет назад +99

      Bill Malcolm Judging by the rest of the comments, you're the only person who actually watched the video.

    • @AbhinavPReddy-sl6zf
      @AbhinavPReddy-sl6zf 6 лет назад +9

      You're absolutely right! That's the essence of the video

    • @gezzapk
      @gezzapk 6 лет назад +6

      I think a lot of people just didn't watch the end

    • @BurnedLeo
      @BurnedLeo 6 лет назад +4

      Bill Malcolm you're absolutely correct! Thats what I also noticed in this video!!

    • @Siscon92
      @Siscon92 6 лет назад +2

      not really possible, I mean really expensive doctors take care of you, but then you can't feed your family and get in lots of debt so you start cooking meth which is also a problem :/

  • @Paguo
    @Paguo 6 лет назад +1897

    "How is your dog named?"
    "Homeopathy"
    "Can I pet him, does he bite?"
    "Yeah, he doesn't do anything"

    • @vismedicatrixnature2595
      @vismedicatrixnature2595 6 лет назад +4

      Paguo
      Every genius was really ignorant on certain other subjects. Skeptics of homeopathy prove this every day.

    • @irlfella
      @irlfella 5 лет назад +55

      @@vismedicatrixnature2595 r/woosh

    • @cup_o_pencils
      @cup_o_pencils 5 лет назад +28

      @@vismedicatrixnature2595 whoosh

    • @antediluvianatheist5262
      @antediluvianatheist5262 5 лет назад +54

      @@vismedicatrixnature2595 And yet none of that has anything to do with A: homeopathy does not work. We've tested it. B: the mechanism by which it is claimed to work is anti science, and essentially 'magic.' and C: it does not work. We've tested it.
      Really, if it worked, drug companies would *OWN* it.
      Instead of making expensive drugs and selling them, they's just mix stuff with pure water and dilute, and sell that. Much cheaper.

    • @PsychoDiesel48
      @PsychoDiesel48 5 лет назад +1

      GENIUS!!!!

  • @user-dk7ff6kk4q
    @user-dk7ff6kk4q Год назад +1

    the video is legit!
    the quality of your video is off the wall.
    it fills my intellectual curiosity.
    i am over the moon.

  • @RaviKumar-tx2wt
    @RaviKumar-tx2wt Год назад +2

    I have been taking it since my childhood, It has always worked for me.

  • @The482075
    @The482075 6 лет назад +601

    I have been receiving homeopathic treatments at home.
    It's really simple. I grab a cup and fill it with water from a tap.

    • @The482075
      @The482075 6 лет назад +30

      I was making fun of homeopathy.

    • @The482075
      @The482075 6 лет назад +11

      In which case I'll grab one grain of sugar and dilute it in one litre of water.

    • @november8039
      @november8039 6 лет назад +15

      You know how to make tap? Hit me up fam I need the recipe

    • @handlesarecringe957
      @handlesarecringe957 6 лет назад +1

      Cuzeg Spiked It could also be that the steam clears your sinuses slightly.

    • @TheSethxy
      @TheSethxy 6 лет назад +1

      Yes, it's called fluoride treatment. It works wonders for the teeth... lol

  • @ryderyang5982
    @ryderyang5982 4 года назад +272

    0:37 look in the house window. Wow, just wow.

  • @knightmarkfred
    @knightmarkfred Год назад +2

    water memory is just an ad hoc idea to make up for there being usually no active ingredient left in the water after the "potentization"

  • @TheFlush1980
    @TheFlush1980 Год назад +4

    Many people simply don’t know what homeopathy actually is. Many people confuse it with natural medicine, they don’t have a clue about the watering down and memory principle. If they did, I doubt homeopathy would be this big.

  • @alessandromillo9410
    @alessandromillo9410 6 лет назад +2861

    If homeopathy was true I could pour one beer in a lake and throw one hell of a party

    • @altrag
      @altrag 6 лет назад +301

      No way.. that would be far too many molecules of alcohol per glass :P.
      What you need to do is take an eye dropper, put one drop on a surface, absorb 99% of it and let the rest fall into the lake. Then you can tell the dumbasses that you have homeopathic alcohol and you can drink all the actual beer yourself.

    • @MrFreakHeavy
      @MrFreakHeavy 6 лет назад +172

      Alessandro Millo how are you going to shake the lake?

    • @spacesponge8732
      @spacesponge8732 6 лет назад +217

      machinegun Earthquake.

    • @Yahriel
      @Yahriel 6 лет назад +103

      it almost means you could cure your hangover by drinking more.

    • @sobrecillo
      @sobrecillo 6 лет назад +51

      Appreciate your try, but you got it wrong. According to the "alike cures alike" principle, one drop of beer on a lake should get every drunk awake and sober. But still, not diluted enough and you could not shake the dillution properly.

  • @ZippyRagu
    @ZippyRagu 5 лет назад +1015

    Now that Futurama joke makes so much more sense.
    "I've got a degree in Homeopathy!"
    "You've got a degree in bologna."

    • @DarthDawydh
      @DarthDawydh 5 лет назад +55

      Fun fuct I literally got a degree in Bologna

    • @ingamingpc1634
      @ingamingpc1634 5 лет назад

      @@DarthDawydh cool in what

    • @Zomby_Woof
      @Zomby_Woof 5 лет назад +5

      @@ingamingpc1634 Bolognetics

    • @ingamingpc1634
      @ingamingpc1634 5 лет назад

      @@Zomby_Woof cool

    • @eggboi4517
      @eggboi4517 5 лет назад

      Robert Franz
      The genetics of bologna

  • @serifeozturk5134
    @serifeozturk5134 Год назад +1

    Türkçe dil seçeneği için teşekkürler! Harikasınız! ❤️

  • @DB-fm6cv
    @DB-fm6cv Год назад +81

    They just diagnosed me with a brain tumor at the age of 28, since its benign they opted for the "wait and scan" method to see if it grows, as a newly dad to a few month old son, I much rather try homeopathie instead of doing nothing.
    Next MRI is in 6 months, its not just about If it works or not, it comforts me in knowing I tried everything (even homeopathy) if it still grows I'll go in for a life saving surgery, but atleast I tried.
    And if it would work placebo or not that would be a big benefit.
    People here calling it a scam might not realise the comfort it gives terminal ill

    • @gregjames2145
      @gregjames2145 Год назад +9

      god bless you on your journey brother, i know you’re gonna be alright because of your positivity, i know the lord can heal you up

    • @julesdomes6064
      @julesdomes6064 Год назад +2

      Tough situation you are in, and I wish you all the best.
      Since no properly conducted clinical studies can find any effects beyond placebo, homeopathy is indeed a scam.
      Running a business where you give the ill some expectation of a cure when your "remedies" are useless, is unethical and a scam.

    • @DB-fm6cv
      @DB-fm6cv Год назад +7

      @@gregjames2145 thanks for the kind words, i have faith in a good outcome

    • @supernova9721
      @supernova9721 Год назад +8

      Wish you a speedy recovery and a life of health!

    • @aymanfatiima
      @aymanfatiima Год назад +6

      Wishing you a speedy recovery

  • @Khobotov
    @Khobotov 5 лет назад +2561

    Homeopathy is like throwing your car keys into a river, then walking 500km to the sea and taking a spoon of sea water to start your car.

    • @RahulSsup
      @RahulSsup 5 лет назад +318

      Nooooooooooo. You gotta stir the water first, before taking a spoonful out. How else will water remember what was put in it?

    • @safir2241
      @safir2241 5 лет назад +104

      That’s like
      A perfect analogy

    • @jarovanduren5641
      @jarovanduren5641 5 лет назад +21

      Then you could start an antimatter based spaceship that could fit humany

    • @lodsalins1008
      @lodsalins1008 5 лет назад +1

      Thats right

    • @bunbunnbunnybun
      @bunbunnbunnybun 5 лет назад +4

      @@safir2241 why is there a mandelbrot in the reply section??

  • @generalzeno6848
    @generalzeno6848 4 года назад +1728

    I loved how hard Kurzgesagt was trying not to completely obliterate homeopathy.

    • @thehermit8618
      @thehermit8618 4 года назад +119

      They were thinking of their comment section. They clearly didn't want to leave it a scorched wasteland

    • @thehermit8618
      @thehermit8618 4 года назад +63

      @D the hell are you saying?

    • @thehermit8618
      @thehermit8618 4 года назад +130

      @D oh so you're one of _them_

    • @thehermit8618
      @thehermit8618 4 года назад +105

      @D i have nothing to elaborate on people who deny the effectiveness of medicine

    • @thehermit8618
      @thehermit8618 4 года назад +76

      @D they aren't perfect but neither they are the root of all evil

  • @kavinkumarr9629
    @kavinkumarr9629 Год назад +6

    Faith can move mountains, but sugar water can’t cure cancer

  • @Clisare
    @Clisare Год назад +5

    My mother believed she could cure her cancer with homeopathy. She is dead now

    • @monishrules6580
      @monishrules6580 Год назад +3

      :( homeopathy is so common in india people don't realise it is a hoax, i never knew it was fake and always thought it was a different type of process to make medicine

    • @shara26dimpy
      @shara26dimpy Год назад +1

      @@monishrules6580 It's not a hoax. It's not as strong as allopathy but it's definitely not a hoax! I and many of my relatives were cured from homeopathy where allopathy failed us.

  • @haziee3108
    @haziee3108 5 лет назад +2085

    Step 1: open a homeopathy pharmacy
    Step 2: just sell water
    Step 3: ???
    Step 4: Profit!

  • @darkhayou
    @darkhayou 6 лет назад +53

    I like how you were still able to bring up black holes in this topic.

    • @erik-ic3tp
      @erik-ic3tp 6 лет назад +1

      And unknown huge numbers like 1 novemdecillion (10^60).

  • @SabhyataSahu
    @SabhyataSahu Год назад +2

    Mine turned out to be a sham that deteriorated my health

  • @zcenzo
    @zcenzo 6 месяцев назад +3

    I was raised with homeopathic remedies, and while I do now doubt their effect, I cannot ignore the fact that thanks to them I have healed serious injuries extremely fast and have even gotten over a scarlet fever with no antibiotics at all.

    • @Aledjdjsk
      @Aledjdjsk 6 месяцев назад

      Science is king

  • @CKTDanny
    @CKTDanny 6 лет назад +1342

    The idea of Placebo is fascinating.

    • @jefftee7354
      @jefftee7354 6 лет назад +46

      Nocebo is even crazier to me.

    • @Dottorpelli
      @Dottorpelli 6 лет назад +45

      As a medical student, it is part of our training.
      It is indeed a real and actual part of treatment.

    • @everestguo7772
      @everestguo7772 6 лет назад +1

      SDG Danny yeah. I mean it has no right to work whatsoever! :)

    • @NathanScott
      @NathanScott 6 лет назад +23

      Yeah, there are people with Parkinson's who can stop shaking (temporarily) through placebo effects. It's definitely a real effect, it's just caused by your brain instead of by anything external.

    • @elliotto_095
      @elliotto_095 6 лет назад +3

      In a Nutshell screwed up big time on this one. They are presenting placebo as meaning the power of belief or something. This is a big misconception. That is not and has never been the purpose of a placebo win in a test. The placebo wing is there to account for biases and anomalous data. Placebo does not heal and there is no science indicating that it does. This is such a misunderstood part of science.

  • @BanditRants
    @BanditRants 6 лет назад +998

    As a video editor and content creator on this platform, whenever Kurzgesagt uploads it's simultaneously joy and agony. Joy for such great content, agony...knowing they've set the bar so high in quality.

    • @penutbutterswiiiishh4125
      @penutbutterswiiiishh4125 6 лет назад +18

      I feel you on that one man, and I don't even make videos.

    • @tonyrawmen4966
      @tonyrawmen4966 6 лет назад +2

      BanditRants saw ur comment on IHE's video and I subbed, love your vids bro

    • @leafyisheresucks4842
      @leafyisheresucks4842 6 лет назад +6

      BanditRants I see your comments everywhere, but I must say you're pretty fucking good at making videos. Not as good as Kurzgesagt, but that's nothing to be ashamed of since no one is.

    • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
      @imveryangryitsnotbutter 6 лет назад +6

      +PewdiePie7281 Obvious troll is obvious.

    • @SoumOrg
      @SoumOrg 6 лет назад +4

      BanditRants I COMPLETELY FEEL YOU

  • @asmaeelbalghiti7970
    @asmaeelbalghiti7970 17 дней назад +1

    i love your narrating voice so much

  • @jammintime4430
    @jammintime4430 Год назад +5

    This is why herbalism is a much better alternative medicine. But it's up to the person to choose what they put in their body...

  • @quagliumquagnarr3853
    @quagliumquagnarr3853 6 лет назад +2709

    That's why I take *Flintstones Gummies* the duct tape of biological remedies.

    • @hannahahn4675
      @hannahahn4675 6 лет назад +33

      Quaglium Quagnarr Hell yeah

    • @rafaero5292
      @rafaero5292 6 лет назад +12

      Quaglium Quagnarr same

    • @harangerish7588
      @harangerish7588 6 лет назад +69

      we all know the chewable tablets are the real medicine, don't listen to this idiot.

    • @kevindensmore7507
      @kevindensmore7507 6 лет назад +7

      Ayyye, their gummy nature and incredible flavour has NOTHING to do with it.

    • @Pfhorrest
      @Pfhorrest 6 лет назад +34

      So Flintstone Gummies are what you take when some part of your body is moving but it shouldn't be?
      What do you take for when some part of your body isn't moving but should be? The WD-40 of biological remedies?

  • @oom-3262
    @oom-3262 6 лет назад +186

    5:50
    "Time is a tool you can put on the wall or wear it on your wrist
    The past is far behind us, the future doesn't exist"

    • @StiffPvtParts
      @StiffPvtParts 6 лет назад +17

      Had to scroll down way too far for this.

    • @andrewzywicki2745
      @andrewzywicki2745 6 лет назад +6

      Scrub Scrub Scrub til' the water's BROWN!

    • @mambodog5322
      @mambodog5322 6 лет назад

      I don't get it.

    • @alexanderm5728
      @alexanderm5728 6 лет назад +12

      Time is a ruler to measure the day.
      It doesn't go backwards, only one way.
      Watch it go round like a merry-go-round.
      Going so fast like a merry-go-round.

    • @mambodog5322
      @mambodog5322 6 лет назад

      What's it from?

  • @spongeintheshoe
    @spongeintheshoe 9 месяцев назад +6

    The idea that homeopathy is actually doing something better than our current medical system is kind of depressing.

  • @RobBoss757
    @RobBoss757 Год назад +2

    Did you seriously throw in don't hug me I'm scared xD omg. Makes me love this channel even more

  • @mikeshimek5343
    @mikeshimek5343 4 года назад +279

    I would really like to see something like this on astrology. I have a few friends who swear by it. Once I saw a girl at a party crying in the corner, when I asked if she was ok she told me that she had to break up with her boyfriend earlier because they had "incompatible zodiac signs".

    • @Helperbot-2000
      @Helperbot-2000 3 года назад +3

      Oh damn that sounds aweful

    • @donovancurtis9381
      @donovancurtis9381 3 года назад +47

      People were stupid and and made assumptions. Humanity didn't know better. But now that we turned away from assumption, and turned towards logic and evidence, people are just ignorant and practically retarded.

    • @__________________________4781
      @__________________________4781 3 года назад +8

      Darwinism should be better at its job lol

    • @staringgasmask
      @staringgasmask 3 года назад +2

      @@__________________________4781 ethics have destroyed natural selection

    • @jetison333
      @jetison333 3 года назад +6

      @@staringgasmask false, ethics are a result of natural selection. look up the evolution of cooperation.

  • @walkergarya
    @walkergarya 2 года назад +2514

    Pharmacists who reccomend homeopathic remidies should be paid with envalopes that once held money.

    • @angelapuzzle
      @angelapuzzle 2 года назад +23

      Oh

    • @JohannRosario1
      @JohannRosario1 2 года назад +87

      BRILLIANT IDEA!!!

    • @ducatista695
      @ducatista695 2 года назад +118

      Excellent comment. Then they should show them the place on the wall where their License used to be.

    • @ivan4ikok
      @ivan4ikok 2 года назад +8

      What about situation when soma Karen demands from doctor any medicine recommendation like antibiotics to cure her son's flu? I know that homeopathy is placebo but it has some use scenarios.

    • @JohannRosario1
      @JohannRosario1 2 года назад +1

      @@ivan4ikok - Homeopathy has ZERO MEDICAL EFFICACY. If you demand SNAKE-OIL go to a Medieval Carnival which doctor.

  • @AGenericFool
    @AGenericFool Год назад +4

    Ya know once in a blue moon I like to sort such comments by new and promptly use my faith in all internet users.
    It is what it is.

    • @blakeavila4409
      @blakeavila4409 Год назад

      You take a look outside of political correctness at the silent majority?

  • @brownandbeautifulyt
    @brownandbeautifulyt Год назад +9

    Homeopathy has always helped me all my life! Especially with skin and hormonal diseases ☺

  • @KurzgesagtDE
    @KurzgesagtDE 6 лет назад +568

    Das hier ist der deutsche Kanal. Jedes Abo rettet ein Katzenbabyleben. Hier noch mal der link: ruclips.net/channel/UCwRH985XgMYXQ6NxXDo8npw

    • @sofia.eris.bauhaus
      @sofia.eris.bauhaus 6 лет назад +26

      siad shortly - in einer nussschale

    • @ppeez
      @ppeez 6 лет назад +7

      aber warum auf Deutsch? Braucht doch niemand..

    • @nxt_tim
      @nxt_tim 6 лет назад +12

      MOHAMED Der deutsche Kanal wird durch Funk (ZDF-Netzwerk) unterstützt :)

    • @Pascifiqual
      @Pascifiqual 6 лет назад +18

      RUclips-Deutschland Zuschauer so: “Nee, lieber noch ne Runde Fakepranks und Skandale auf RUclips verfolgen...“

    • @UberMercury
      @UberMercury 6 лет назад +3

      Was das problem ist.... Von der Regierung finanzierte Forschung bzw in diesem Fall das Erklären ist immer (Saats-)ideologiebehaftet.
      Aber mal abwarten wie sich das entwickelt. Etwas mehr wissenschaftliches Wissen und nicht nur emotionale Kurzschlussreaktionen und ablaufen von Skripten tut der deutschen Öffentlichkeit sicher gut.

  • @joseftollar6213
    @joseftollar6213 5 лет назад +683

    Kurzgesat is a better version of the infographics show.

  • @bhavyasharma9839
    @bhavyasharma9839 Год назад +5

    I took homeopathy for straight 1 and a half year for treating severe atopic dermatitis years ago and by the endmy skin was as it it but I developed asthma as well and when we asked the doc he said this is a mere side effect of the treatment. I was like wh-
    It’s been 7 years since then and I now realize that I had flare ups due to milk allergy. And now it’s better :d
    The only positive thing about homeopathy according to me is the sweet taste lol

  • @vind1293
    @vind1293 Год назад +3

    Did anyone else notice the 'Don't Hug Me I'm Scared' clock in this video?

    • @ThisIsAubreyLOL
      @ThisIsAubreyLOL Год назад

      was looking for this comment

    • @vind1293
      @vind1293 Год назад

      @@ThisIsAubreyLOL Glad I'm not the only one

  • @HisCarlnessI
    @HisCarlnessI 6 лет назад +950

    The second one, mostly. Selling people overpriced placebo, especially when a more effective real treatment isn't being sought as a result, is health endangering fraud.

    • @minozen9699
      @minozen9699 6 лет назад +6

      HisRoyalCarlness This comment is very correct!

    • @Mystickrage
      @Mystickrage 6 лет назад +2

      Yea but it wouldnt be fraud if people learned it themselves

    • @Hari-qi2cb
      @Hari-qi2cb 6 лет назад

      I am

    • @geoffdavids7647
      @geoffdavids7647 6 лет назад +7

      What if such a highly valued placebo helps people get better who would otherwise have gotten worse and died or stayed in great pain and suffering for the rest of their life?

    • @Novusod
      @Novusod 6 лет назад +19

      A lot of people run to the doctor as soon as they get a cold or flu for which the doctor prescribes antibiotics which do nothing to cure the cold and in the long run may hurt you. Every time someone takes an antibiotic the less effective it will become later on and breeds super bugs. Giving the patient a placebo just to shut them up is a better option.

  • @Kebabrulle4869
    @Kebabrulle4869 6 лет назад +366

    "Faith can move mountains, but sugar water can't cure cancer" - Kurzgesagt 2k18

    • @Kebabrulle4869
      @Kebabrulle4869 6 лет назад +6

      Maybe. It's still an expression nonetheless.

    • @MultiJeje12345
      @MultiJeje12345 6 лет назад +10

      Did you mean 12k18?

    • @RShienh
      @RShienh 6 лет назад

      I think it would still be tough to move mountains even with thousands of tons of dynamite. You might need close to 10s million tons of dynamite to crack it.

    • @NathanTAK
      @NathanTAK 6 лет назад +7

      12020: "BREAKING NEWS: Scientists discover cure to cancer, it's sugar water (as long as it doesn't have cancer mixed in with at 1 part per nonillion)"

    • @burrito267
      @burrito267 6 лет назад

      2k18 means, "two thousand and eighteen" or 2018. its kind of an abbreviation

  • @ryanpowell9003
    @ryanpowell9003 5 месяцев назад +2

    The Healthcare industry in the US alone is over $800 Billion. $12 Billion isn't even 2% of $800 Billion. To consider these two industries conporable or to say they hold a similar amount of power is a pretty crazy take.

  • @chickenman297
    @chickenman297 Год назад +3

    Q: What do they call alternative medicine that works?
    A: Medicine

  • @notafurry471
    @notafurry471 4 года назад +3476

    The proper way to pay a homeopathic practitioner: Take a coin, put it in water, take a drop of that, and give it to them

    • @weakspirit_
      @weakspirit_ 4 года назад +180

      remember to stir the water so that the molecules can absorb its essence. in fact, banks will be in ruins once the public obtains this knowledge. however, why are 'they' still controlling everything in our lives? it's because the world is ruled by satan & aliens are our only hope to save humanity. with their help, we can rediscover ancient technologies like healing crysta
      i felt nauseous pretending to be retarded, so i'm gonna leave it there.

    • @michaelesposito2629
      @michaelesposito2629 4 года назад +76

      The Atlantis LOL sure as shit wasn’t saved by literally water with zero atoms of any medicine

    • @dipanjanghosal1662
      @dipanjanghosal1662 4 года назад +32

      @@michaelesposito2629 PLACEBO

    • @michaelesposito2629
      @michaelesposito2629 4 года назад +22

      Dipanjan Ghosal the greatest medical breakthrough will come, when we can figure out how to trigger a placebo response.

    • @dipanjanghosal1662
      @dipanjanghosal1662 4 года назад +27

      @@michaelesposito2629 homeopathy can trigger placebo tho. It cured my tonsillitis when I was young, whereas allopathy told me to get surgery.

  • @shaneblack6746
    @shaneblack6746 Год назад +3

    "Water has memory." That's what Olaf said and I'm sticking by it.

    • @Adven4U1
      @Adven4U1 Год назад

      Eh, I'll go after the holy water in the churches and Jesus words in Mark 16:16.

    • @julesdomes6064
      @julesdomes6064 Год назад +1

      Yes, it's comedy gold! 😂

  • @m.a.packer5450
    @m.a.packer5450 11 месяцев назад +11

    Before I was diagnosed with diabetes, I followed my family's homeopathic beliefs to treat my ailments. Over time, my health got to the point where I almost died. Finally woke up and decided I needed to see one of those evil doctors. They treated me, put me on medications, performed surgeries, and I started getting better to the point I could wake up without feeling like I had been run over by a truck, and have energy to get me through the day

    • @YFZriderdude15
      @YFZriderdude15 9 месяцев назад

      How did they diagnose you? I also feel like I've been run over by a truck every morning, but my doctor said my blood sugar level is not indicative of Type 2 diabetes. But I am no closer to finding out why I'm so sleepy, despite getting lots of sleep and dreaming every night. I have so little energy during the day that I almost always take a nap under the radar at work.

    • @EllpaFox47
      @EllpaFox47 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@YFZriderdude15 extreme tiredness is a sign of many different issues
      if you haven't already, you should probably get tested for various kinds of cancer

  • @devam8850
    @devam8850 3 года назад +1045

    "Faith can move mountains but sugar water can't cure cancer"
    Damnnnnnn😂

    • @acidmizer
      @acidmizer 3 года назад +18

      faith can't do anything.

    • @simulify8726
      @simulify8726 3 года назад +22

      @@acidmizer Yeah you are right, it's not always SuGaR WatEr. It has worked on me several times, during fevers, skin allergies and headaches etc. I can't say placebo effect is always responsible for it. To me this video was more like a sponsor for Allopaths.

    • @UltraAryan10
      @UltraAryan10 3 года назад +63

      @@simulify8726 Tell me you are joking

    • @DKNkmFrvr
      @DKNkmFrvr 3 года назад +12

      @@acidmizer in fact many men have been driven to truly great deeds, exceeding their own limits by faith/conviction/having the feeling of serving a purpose greater than themselves. There's nothing mystical, irrational in this point of view

    • @justinjakeashton
      @justinjakeashton 3 года назад +1

      @@melontron7734 Faith

  • @0x777
    @0x777 3 года назад +2234

    Homeopathy is so last-gen. I do Pizzapathy now.
    Every time I have a headache, I eat a pizza tonno and about 1 to 20 hours later, my headaches are gone. Like they never existed. OK, sometimes my headaches get worse. That's how I know that the pizza is actually working, that's the so called initial worsening. But I just eat another pizza tonno and it usually gets better.
    But you can't just eat pizza tonno, that depends on what pizza type you are. You should get a pizza type consultation done first, to make sure you take the right pizza. With a friend of mine, tonno doesn't work and he has to use cardinale.
    Also, if a pizza doesn't work for some reason, it's not because the pizza isn't a cure for headaches, it probaby was not stored properly or the store you got it at interrupted the freezing chain. These things should definitely only be handled by professionals and not treated like it was just some foodstuff.
    Those pizzas are made by a company here called "Dr. Oetker", as you can see in the name, it's been developed by a doctor. Still, therapeutic pizzas are still not covered by medical insurances because of a conspiracy by the pharma corporations who know that nobody would ever touch their expensive pills if people finally realized that all they have to do is eat tasty pizzas!
    And don't you dare tell me it's just imagination and placebo effect. HE WHO CURES IS RIGHT!
    (and yes, just in case... this is satire)

    • @chocolizard678
      @chocolizard678 2 года назад +167

      And don't forget, if you see studies proving pizza doesn't work, don't be fooled. Proof is subjective and about what you experience, not these thousands of not-you people being carefully observed by "impartial" shills 🙃 Your anecdotes about pizza are evidence and your body is the exception to whatever these "studies" say. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't opened their minds yet to how good alternatives like pizza can be. (Also satire ofc).

    • @0x777
      @0x777 2 года назад +132

      @@chocolizard678 Studies... in labs... no wonder that stuff doesn't work. Pizza has a memory and it remembers if you cook it in an oven that heated your petri dishes before!

    • @simstar6557
      @simstar6557 2 года назад +43

      Underrated comment 😄.

    • @Tharmin.124
      @Tharmin.124 2 года назад +32

      Their spinach pizza really helps lift your mood, improve appetite, general well-being, and has been proven to cure the common cold over and over again by numerous studies!

    • @geraldmuntuerto5769
      @geraldmuntuerto5769 2 года назад +35

      @@Tharmin.124 spinach on pizza is the equally evil brother of pinapples on pizza

  • @mikelynott4035
    @mikelynott4035 Год назад +3

    If dilution makes something more potent then I’d better not put too much water in my whiskey tonight.

  • @pamuhammedyaseen4042
    @pamuhammedyaseen4042 Год назад +2

    My mother was having intense pain on her shoulder blade and forearm area. First she consulted a neurosurgeon as this issue came in the past too and she wanted thorough consultation, as she was concerned of the repeating pain. He gave her a series of pain killers which was not at all justifying its name. Then she go for ayurveda and tried the medicines prescribed by the doctor and the pain persisted witb full force. She even thought she is going to die due to the intense pain. Her hand(right) was too stiffen and nerves where protruding enough to be clearly visible. Then she took an xray which show some issues at the intial regions of spine(bones over that region), seems successive vertebral bones wasn't having enough same in between. She thus consulted a spine specialist who diagnosed it as some kind of arithritis and prescribed some neuropathic pain killers which can cause dilation in nerves. She felt some relief but the pain returned soon enough that she start to felt hopeless about recovery.
    Suddenly we remembered nearby homeo pathy clinic and go for it. Her pain multiplied the next day. She even calldd the doc and cried out her agony. He asked her to keep patience as the medicine is working. Soon her stiffened hand become relaxed, her pain diminished. Those protruding nerves is no more visible. Her hand recovered from that sick look

    • @pamuhammedyaseen4042
      @pamuhammedyaseen4042 Год назад

      Allopathy don't have cure for many diseases other surgical removal pf affected part. For example stones in pancreas got a cure in allopathy as removing pancreas. But ayurveda got cure for it which breaks and removes the stone through urine etc.
      Also there is a lot of chronic diseases which have excellent cure in allopathy but not in other medical system.
      Giving allopathy monotonous power is dangerous as the incredible human machine has its own way to tackle diseases which we term as immunity. Homeopathy pampers the human immunity while allopathic medicines more or less hampers it. It takes over the role of immunity, but is necessary during emergency situations.
      We usually prefer homeopathy in mild lifestyle diseases and may god protect is from drastic ailments and provide us with proper medicines to all those diseases mankind is suffering from.

    • @pamuhammedyaseen4042
      @pamuhammedyaseen4042 Год назад

      Yeah that homeopathic doctor said to practice exercises along with his medicines and continue doing exercises even after his course of medicine finishes. He told it will keep the bones in check avoiding future issues.
      Also our body should be strong enough during the cure as most of the curing is done by our own body immunity, homeopathic medicines just wakes it up into full force

  • @gracybhattacharya4855
    @gracybhattacharya4855 6 месяцев назад +2

    Well it worked immensely for me especially for my ulcers and cysts while the general practitioners talked me into surgery. Now the allopathic medicine practitioners whom I visit believe in the power of my homoeopathy doctor lmao