Bunta already know it beforehand though. He wanted Takumi to lose (or at least blow the engine) before he can swap the Group A engine. If he were to swap it earlier, he knows Takumi won't be benefitting from it because he can't find out his own limit and learn from it. And Bunta also already foresee that the 86 had to be ended (thus the final engine blow out) for Takumi to find his closure to street racing and unknowingly moving forward to start his pro racing career. That's the reason why he had Takumi alternate between Impreza and 86 to deliver the tofu, so that he will understand that the 86 cannot run forever against the new gen car.
Still, both explosions are actually something poetically symbolic. The first explosion of the engine is when Takumi reaches his "absolute" limit (where the driver can go no further), because he simply can't do anything else, and his racing spirit just... ends. He sadly realizes that he can't do anything but give up and accept defeat, and the same goes for his car. Although the second one is different Yes, the engine blew too, but instead of giving up, this is the ultimate _"If I can win only just one more race ever... _*_IT'S THIS ONE. I WILL WIN, NO MATTER THE COST"_* moment. And 86 listened to him, delivering its absolute limit before breaking down, winning both Takumi's last street race and the 86's very last race. Why? Because although the engine's maximum RPM was 12,000, it reached... 12,250. An engine over revving that much over the limit before blowing up, is almost impossible, especially at those revs. And don't forget that Takumi vs. Shinji was basically " The old Takumi, versus Takumi... _now_ ". The first was an absolute defeat. The second was a victory at all costs. Takumi's 86 really was Takumi's runner's aura. His body, transferred and transformed in a machine.
Just about the impossible part: I think I remember Ryosuke saying that the new limiter is set at 13k, so it can ABSOLUTELY punch through 12k, but only for mere seconds
@@hongthainguyen5334 , i heard the limiter was at 11k, trying to fool everyone else with the real power. But for the last race, it was removed, unleashing the true 12,000 RPM of the engine. Still, going over the mechanical limit is basically unheard of.
Those engines are happy at 9k but are made to run 11k at the cost of much lower longevity. Going over 11k you would make the same power as going 8k (peak power at 10k) while degrading the performance further by the second. The ONLY benefit is extra wheel speed, ofc anime glorified that. If you think about, this whole 12k ordeal is such a stupid thing to do. A thing remedied easily by changing gear ratios (which supposedly they did...). As for the engine going 12k that "long", it isn't that strange. It probably already broke something the moment it touched 12k and started lose performance. Going downhill probably helped a lot to keep it revved and made things much worse. Something big let go (probably caused by the hurt valvetrain).
The first loss was sad due to Takumi losing both the race and, what we thought was, his AE86 The second loss was sad due to the fact that he'd just blown up an incredibly rare Group A Touring Car engine
Second stage I am pretty sure it wasn't overrev, it was just because the engine was at it's limit after being used so long (kind just happens to old cars) but yh he was using it very extremely.
Honestly.. the first one is sadder. Takumi crying hit hard after Natsuki cheated on him... not only that.. It caused Team Emperor too take our sticker and tear it in half when my team-mate Nakazato lost. (Me and Nakazato are not friends)
@@hongthainguyen5334 For real, plus when Engine ded.. Takumi dad shows up too help him and then Takumi bursts out in tears.. 2 things bad happened in one night....
0:00 Takumi: *Vietnam flashbacks of blowing up his own engine* 0:03 Takumi: *turns on headlights* 0:06 Takumi: *Sees his RPM at over 12k RPMS* 0:08 Takumi: Oh shit-. 0:09 AE86: *ded*
*meanwhile honda speaking the forbiden ancient tongue of the overevingan with their S800 able to sustain nearly twice it's intented revs (STOCK)* and it stock revs to 8000
The engine in it is awesome when you look at the specs to it, it was one of toyota's group A motors. Its a naturally aspirated 1.6 liter that is cranking close to 240 horsepower it's a beast
The last engine blow had us all angry because that was a race motor, no "junkyard" replacement. The Bunta motor was a modified 4A-GEC which would have been easier to replace. I'm still salty.
I love the anime series but.... ...for the second engine blow up, Project D should have replaced the 86 engine without any cost for Takumi. I find it odd the Ryosuke didn't even bother to offer Bunta and Takumi to replace the blown out engine. I find it unfair and 'un-Ryosuke' like.
He had not rev limiter, also he is trying to win a race in the middle of the night without lights Literally the plan was redlining to to get extra power
"And the later ain't using a dry sump. Anything above 8/9k should use dry sump" At numerous points during the x-ray shots you can see the race engine is using a dry sump oiling system, for what its worth. Edit: Initial P actually has video showing this. ruclips.net/video/U-cCoPAy0XE/видео.html 5 seconds in, under the exhaust- you can see the multi stage dry sump pump. (And i cant remember if this is in the anime or manga at this point, but theres comments about how the dry sump system allowed them to mount the engine lower and reduce the center of gravity, with comments praising how well set up the vehicle is and how this improves its handling. "oo they really knew what they were doing.." kinda stuff)
@@ilham7345 Oh definitely. Always laughed because in stage 1 theres a moment where keisuke while racing takumi goes "is my secondary turbo working?!" and then it cuts to a picture of the engine bay- And the engine drawn has only 1 turbo. More than likely the artist(s) just found a "tuned rx7 engine bay" and drew it- without realizing that most tuned up FDs go to single turbo.
he were drifting, and keep the wheels rolling while braking at the same time, with bigger cars that is not a problem because they are made in a way to be more durable at being tanky, the problem is that they are heavier so for takumi was not a good election because he mostly drive the downway, so if he had a bigger motor and/or car, he could be doing what ryousuke vs death was, that he burn his brakes and were close to colision.
Is able because is a racing engine without redline, is very special if you tune a car the usual is 9000 RPM and this car (based on real life) has 11.000
@@omarjimenezromero3463Thats is not the problem, he shiftdown to use extra power of the gear, this is why they remove the rev limiter So in this moment he trying to accelerating the most time possible meanwhile he had is lights turn out in the dark night He was so concentrate and because forgot, the true problem is he didnt brake or shift up, then if you play NFS Underground Drag race, maybe you know, you explode
no it was not, at least not for its era, nowadays we still do not have a car with those ratios for nowaday technology, so takumi were having a very rare engine with an unusual car that had an upper performance for its time.
@@omarjimenezromero3463 the only car from "its era" the 86 raced in the series was Ryosuke's FC and he had to detune it to give 86 a fighting chance every other race was decided either by skill issue or Takumi's bull$hit luck stop huffing copium
@@omarjimenezromero3463 btw if Takumi's 86 did not have a goddamn 10k rpm race engine by the time he raced a Suzuki Cappucino Project D would have ended right there and then because literally the only thing Takumi could do against it was OVERTAKING IT ON A LONG STRAIGHT A GODDAMN CAPPUCINO
@@ilvanezzohe did not detune the FC to give the 86 a Fighting Chance you're wrong about that he detune the car so he could keep up with the 86 without strutting his tires
@@BryceMcMurray-xs3st First of all, look up what "allegory" means. Second, yeah sure, let's go with TIRE WEAR as the deciding factor in that race. TIRE WEAR. Boy you sure must love MF Ghost, huh. Third, I can read your comment as "Ryousuke was so unconcerned with losing to an 86 he detuned his car to save money on tires (even though he's filthy rich)" And that still sounds like I was right. And before you "but akshyually the plot-" I DON'T CARE WHAT THE PLOT WAS. SEE POINT 1.
Can’t confirm, I remember my 2008 auris ran with milk as engine oil for a week before the check engine light came on, then I topped it back up withe the finest oil (more to come with that auris next year)
This dude just destroyed a Toyota engine..... TWICE
i dont know about cars, what does that means hehe
Toyota make one of the most reliable engines ever so destroying one is a very hard quest
Not so much with the 1ZR-FE from personal experience the M15A-FXE is amazing though.
@@allrounderplaya5957 Toyota engines are known to be reliable and durable, yeah sorry for the late reply
No engine will survive overreving damage.. Unless the engine was made to resist revs more than the designated RPM.
Bunta already know it beforehand though. He wanted Takumi to lose (or at least blow the engine) before he can swap the Group A engine. If he were to swap it earlier, he knows Takumi won't be benefitting from it because he can't find out his own limit and learn from it.
And Bunta also already foresee that the 86 had to be ended (thus the final engine blow out) for Takumi to find his closure to street racing and unknowingly moving forward to start his pro racing career. That's the reason why he had Takumi alternate between Impreza and 86 to deliver the tofu, so that he will understand that the 86 cannot run forever against the new gen car.
Nah he just went "hm bought a nice engine. Will wait to blow this one up first teehee"
@@jgbalves sounds like bunta lmao
Ohh that’s why
Facts 😄
@@jgbalves Sounds like me buying stuff I don't need yet but "well just in case the old one blew hehe."
Still, both explosions are actually something poetically symbolic.
The first explosion of the engine is when Takumi reaches his "absolute" limit (where the driver can go no further), because he simply can't do anything else, and his racing spirit just... ends. He sadly realizes that he can't do anything but give up and accept defeat, and the same goes for his car.
Although the second one is different
Yes, the engine blew too, but instead of giving up, this is the ultimate _"If I can win only just one more race ever... _*_IT'S THIS ONE. I WILL WIN, NO MATTER THE COST"_* moment.
And 86 listened to him, delivering its absolute limit before breaking down, winning both Takumi's last street race and the 86's very last race. Why? Because although the engine's maximum RPM was 12,000, it reached... 12,250. An engine over revving that much over the limit before blowing up, is almost impossible, especially at those revs.
And don't forget that Takumi vs. Shinji was basically " The old Takumi, versus Takumi... _now_ ".
The first was an absolute defeat.
The second was a victory at all costs.
Takumi's 86 really was Takumi's runner's aura. His body, transferred and transformed in a machine.
Tha... that was beautiful
Just about the impossible part: I think I remember Ryosuke saying that the new limiter is set at 13k, so it can ABSOLUTELY punch through 12k, but only for mere seconds
@@hongthainguyen5334 , i heard the limiter was at 11k, trying to fool everyone else with the real power. But for the last race, it was removed, unleashing the true 12,000 RPM of the engine. Still, going over the mechanical limit is basically unheard of.
Those engines are happy at 9k but are made to run 11k at the cost of much lower longevity. Going over 11k you would make the same power as going 8k (peak power at 10k) while degrading the performance further by the second.
The ONLY benefit is extra wheel speed, ofc anime glorified that. If you think about, this whole 12k ordeal is such a stupid thing to do. A thing remedied easily by changing gear ratios (which supposedly they did...).
As for the engine going 12k that "long", it isn't that strange. It probably already broke something the moment it touched 12k and started lose performance. Going downhill probably helped a lot to keep it revved and made things much worse. Something big let go (probably caused by the hurt valvetrain).
Rapaziada, onde eu acho esse EP do fugiwara contra o shingi eu n achei😩
The first loss was sad due to Takumi losing both the race and, what we thought was, his AE86
The second loss was sad due to the fact that he'd just blown up an incredibly rare Group A Touring Car engine
Both appear to have been caused by overrev damage
Second stage I am pretty sure it wasn't overrev, it was just because the engine was at it's limit after being used so long (kind just happens to old cars) but yh he was using it very extremely.
@@chocolaanimu4evaxx396 You on about over heating?
@@InitialP18 Yhhh that's more like how it broke. I just see so many old cars have their engines blow for no reason rlly.
one was chase too much and one was use overrev
It was due to a pin in the crank being loose Bunta said I think
as a fan of this series while I was still a little prick and now grown. When it shown for the first time, my heart sank.
Honestly.. the first one is sadder.
Takumi crying hit hard after Natsuki cheated on him... not only that..
It caused Team Emperor too take our sticker and tear it in half when my team-mate Nakazato lost. (Me and Nakazato are not friends)
Revving the shit out of the 4A-GE to cope with thot
_Engine dies_ 💀💀💀
@@hongthainguyen5334 For real, plus when Engine ded.. Takumi dad shows up too help him and then Takumi bursts out in tears.. 2 things bad happened in one night....
💀
@@CRSRSIM POV: Me when the night kids sticker get's chopped in half
Bro what are you doing here ?! People will think we are friends
The Supra should have took notes from the GR86. It's so faithfully recreated including the engine blowing up.
Boxer issue
0:00 Takumi: *Vietnam flashbacks of blowing up his own engine*
0:03 Takumi: *turns on headlights*
0:06 Takumi: *Sees his RPM at over 12k RPMS*
0:08 Takumi: Oh shit-.
0:09 AE86: *ded*
Its funny that not even Top Gear was able to destroy a Toyota's engine while Takumi did it twice
Not like other one is cartoon and other one real life.
@@NeroKoso yeah but it should be the other way around
Turns out plot armor was thin in this series.
22R doesn’t rev NEARLY as high as this 4A-GE
*meanwhile honda speaking the forbiden ancient tongue of the overevingan with their S800 able to sustain nearly twice it's intented revs (STOCK)* and it stock revs to 8000
Toyotas: A MILLION MILES. Takumi: nope, fifty miles
hehe
Why does hit more than Dominic Toretto straight up destroying his whole Charger like more than 5 times?
Always loved how they animated the oil splatter in the second blow like blood in other anime.
It feels like normal oil would do that too
Y'know,i was expecting that takumi,knowing his car so well,would have figured out how and when shift gears by ear only by now.....
Technically there is a third, it is a newly animated flashback to the first time in the third stage movie.
My guy blew up one of the rarest engines ever.
The fact the fucking engine is at 12k rpm is insane, shit's made of titanium or sum shit
Short stroke, well balanced
it is a street illegal pro racing engine that bunta got from connections
The engine in it is awesome when you look at the specs to it, it was one of toyota's group A motors. Its a naturally aspirated 1.6 liter that is cranking close to 240 horsepower it's a beast
@@McBoobzy828 it got modified along with the 86, the car makes about 300 horsepower
@@Rubenotsus absolutely not. It was detuned to probably make like 200. 240hp is already pushing it.
The fact it reached 12,000 rpm, meaning it shows what the ae86’s engine full potential is.
86: Aw shit, here we go again.
He did the impossible, destroying Japanese engineering
At least this engine didn't blow into 100s of pieces like how i would write it
Literally Top 10 saddest anime deaths
I like how the oil splatters like blood, as if it's a person
it threw a rod... oil goes everywhere, especially under the tires
@@TheCatOfAges Thanks for explaining
I bet the AE86 got a BEAMS engine upgrade and 6 speed gearbox upgrade as a thank you from Ryo Takahashi
Alternative title: The average day with a post-2006 2AZ-FE
i totally didnt cry when these happened
The last engine blow had us all angry because that was a race motor, no "junkyard" replacement. The Bunta motor was a modified 4A-GEC which would have been easier to replace. I'm still salty.
IM BEGGING SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE A COMPILATION OF ALL THE ENGINE X-RAY SCENES I NEED MECHNICAL HENTAI
ruclips.net/video/U-cCoPAy0XE/видео.html
Lmao!!! He dropped the sauce instantly
steering is not a problem for this guy
RIP 4A-GE engines
That's what happens when you rev *any* car to 13 THOUSAND rpm
Apart from F1 car ofc, yeah ur mostly correct.
Takumi needs a dry sump.
It was dry sump, for what its worth.
@@SidewaysGts Huh. Must have forgot that. Impressive that he still fucked up his engine.
Shouldnt the ecu have cut fuel and rev limited the engine ?
This is where men cry
Fr
Second one was def exploding shit sounded like a f1 car😂😂
Is there any RPM limiter on both 4A-GE silver top engine?
I think first have but the second was remove to use max power in that race
Name of eurobeat 0:07
Ace -adrenaline
Ambatublow😢
I love the anime series but....
...for the second engine blow up, Project D should have replaced the 86 engine without any cost for Takumi.
I find it odd the Ryosuke didn't even bother to offer Bunta and Takumi to replace the blown out engine. I find it unfair and 'un-Ryosuke' like.
He forgot to change coolant
I will say that, second stage > final stage
it hurts a lot
You know, you can feel a car redlining it’s not subtle either
He had not rev limiter, also he is trying to win a race in the middle of the night without lights
Literally the plan was redlining to to get extra power
im bouta blow
WHAT?!
ae86 is lemon car?
The early engines probably still using stock rod. And the later ain't using a dry sump. Anything above 8/9k should use dry sump
"And the later ain't using a dry sump. Anything above 8/9k should use dry sump"
At numerous points during the x-ray shots you can see the race engine is using a dry sump oiling system, for what its worth.
Edit: Initial P actually has video showing this.
ruclips.net/video/U-cCoPAy0XE/видео.html
5 seconds in, under the exhaust- you can see the multi stage dry sump pump.
(And i cant remember if this is in the anime or manga at this point, but theres comments about how the dry sump system allowed them to mount the engine lower and reduce the center of gravity, with comments praising how well set up the vehicle is and how this improves its handling. "oo they really knew what they were doing.." kinda stuff)
@@SidewaysGts you're right, the anime kinda inconsistent showing the setup. also no ext. tank in da bay which makes it harder to tell.
@@ilham7345 Oh definitely.
Always laughed because in stage 1 theres a moment where keisuke while racing takumi goes "is my secondary turbo working?!" and then it cuts to a picture of the engine bay-
And the engine drawn has only 1 turbo.
More than likely the artist(s) just found a "tuned rx7 engine bay" and drew it- without realizing that most tuned up FDs go to single turbo.
Bro could just step in the clutch
If you mean the first one, it happened in the heat of the moment and was in pure shock
how does takumi destroy 2 toyota engines they are one of the most reliable engines made also why is it able to rev to 12500 rpm?
he were drifting, and keep the wheels rolling while braking at the same time, with bigger cars that is not a problem because they are made in a way to be more durable at being tanky, the problem is that they are heavier so for takumi was not a good election because he mostly drive the downway, so if he had a bigger motor and/or car, he could be doing what ryousuke vs death was, that he burn his brakes and were close to colision.
Is able because is a racing engine without redline, is very special if you tune a car the usual is 9000 RPM and this car (based on real life) has 11.000
@@omarjimenezromero3463Thats is not the problem, he shiftdown to use extra power of the gear, this is why they remove the rev limiter
So in this moment he trying to accelerating the most time possible meanwhile he had is lights turn out in the dark night
He was so concentrate and because forgot, the true problem is he didnt brake or shift up, then if you play NFS Underground Drag race, maybe you know, you explode
You takumi!
the last one made me bust, though i wish they had different music for the end...
There is one in battle stage 3 with Eurohero playing
@0:11 holy shit there was blood? LMAO
Just realised that 😂
For the dry ones it's engine oil or coolant
He actually blows that formula Atlantic 4age?
Sorry for the spoiler 😭
It’s fine, I doubt I’ll ever see stage 5 since I watch in dubbed
12.000!!!!!!!!!!!???
Bro forgot to use other gear
Should've put a 3sge in it after that 😂
second engine busting hella sus 😳
How do you make this sus?
@@InitialP18 ey I'm not the one stroking the engine at 13000rpm
In the end, the point of Initial D is that even with Takumi at the wheel, the 86 is still just an old shitbox.
no it was not, at least not for its era, nowadays we still do not have a car with those ratios for nowaday technology, so takumi were having a very rare engine with an unusual car that had an upper performance for its time.
@@omarjimenezromero3463 the only car from "its era" the 86 raced in the series was Ryosuke's FC and he had to detune it to give 86 a fighting chance
every other race was decided either by skill issue or Takumi's bull$hit luck
stop huffing copium
@@omarjimenezromero3463 btw if Takumi's 86 did not have a goddamn 10k rpm race engine by the time he raced a Suzuki Cappucino Project D would have ended right there and then because literally the only thing Takumi could do against it was OVERTAKING IT ON A LONG STRAIGHT
A GODDAMN CAPPUCINO
@@ilvanezzohe did not detune the FC to give the 86 a Fighting Chance you're wrong about that he detune the car so he could keep up with the 86 without strutting his tires
@@BryceMcMurray-xs3st First of all, look up what "allegory" means. Second, yeah sure, let's go with TIRE WEAR as the deciding factor in that race. TIRE WEAR. Boy you sure must love MF Ghost, huh. Third, I can read your comment as "Ryousuke was so unconcerned with losing to an 86 he detuned his car to save money on tires (even though he's filthy rich)" And that still sounds like I was right. And before you "but akshyually the plot-" I DON'T CARE WHAT THE PLOT WAS. SEE POINT 1.
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Ayo
Impossible....
They must not be very reliable engines…
It’s not like he pushed it way past its rev limit 💀
And it's not like the original engine lasted through, I suppose, Bunta's whole racing career with the 86, plus the years of delivering tofu.
12000rpm in a trueno ...... go f1 ^^
you will crash in any street with a f1 in less than 5 seconds, those things are not done to be drive in the public roads.
Typical toyota tbh
Can’t confirm, I remember my 2008 auris ran with milk as engine oil for a week before the check engine light came on, then I topped it back up withe the finest oil (more to come with that auris next year)
@@InitialP18WHAT, you must be joking
Nah, my brother decided to put milk in engine oil, it ran like that for a while we sold it on for £550 , I’ll be buying it back in June