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Which team has the highest ceiling at the Rugby World Cup? | Aotearoa Rugby Pod
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2023
- The lads answer all the big questions after another explosive round of Rugby World Cup action. The All Blacks made a statement with their monstrous win over Italy so are they really back? Should Ian Foster select the same team against Uruguay? Have Manu Samoa and Tonga lived up to the hype? And of course, the lads give their picks for who will win each match in the final round of pool play.
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We Irish have always loved the NZ team. Admired from afar knowing this is how to play rugby. We finally have the structures in place to maximise our relatively small talent pool (Rugby is a distant 4th sport for Irish boys behind Soccer Gaelic Football and the greatest game..Hurling) so we can now play how we want to play.This won't be a flash in the pan for Ireland. You'll see consistency here for many years. Scotland aside.. if we do manage to challenge NZ in the 1/4 and stay with them it will be amazing. To win against them again and in a World cup would be something very very special. We don't 'expect' to win but we know when on our game we have the potential to do so. Best to our Long White Cloud brethren. ;)
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What do you mean you don't have the biggest talent pool? You have the whole world. Your coach and many of your players are foreigners. As long as your economy stays strong, you won't have a problem with finding talent from other countries. Don't feel alone, I think only Argentina and South Africa regularly field teams that only consist of locally born and raised players.
Rugby is not the number one sport in most rugby countries. The only exceptions might be the Pacific island nations but I am not sure.
Enjoy the quarterfinals. If it turns out that Ireland must play the All Blacks, it is going to be very interesting. Ireland has grown since they won the series in New Zealand, and who knows which All Blacks team is going to pitch up.
The All Blacks have become rugby's new French with their inconsistent performances. They looked like champions against Italy but looked clueless, flat-footed and uncertain against France. They looked fantastic against the Springboks at Mt Smart, but they looked like headless chickens at Twickenham against the very same Springboks. They destroyed Argenitina in Argentina, but they also gave up a 19-point lead against England in the last ten or so minutes.
The only thing that they do have over the Irish is the fact that Joe Schmidt knows the Irish team and system better than any other coach at the World Cup. They have changed most of their coaching team since that test series and with Whitelock, Retallic and Barret all fit they might just be able to beat the Irish. They lose one of those three and their chances diminish fast. I still think the Irish is the better team but the All Blacks definitely has the potential to play a unstoppable game.
The question is do they have the ability to do it for three consecutive weeks. Personally I don't think so but time will tell.
@@wlk2408 The big gent of a Kiwi two cents did a video recently and NZ actually has more foreign players, is this to do with the economy?
I hear you about Joe Schmidt, but honestly I think that works in both ways, as the Irish players are well familiar with his style.
I do think they'll smash Ireland in the QF, they're a different beast in the finals as are Ireland a lesser especially with the pressure. The ABs have a point to prove!
@conqo I think they have two advantages when it comes to foreign players. Most of their foreign players are from the Pacific Islands around them (Tonga, Samoa, Fiji, and the rest). These islands don't have big economies, so many will find work in New Zealand or Australia. Then, there is the issue of being able to play international rugby for a tier one nation and win big competitions.
It is going to be interesting to see the effect Super Rugby is going to have on those smaller nations. Will a player still go to New Zealand if he can play for a local team and still get exposure so big French, Japanese, or other European clubs can possibly pick them up with much bigger contracts.
Australian rugby is in big trouble. They already said that New Zealand will have to share some of that money they got from their massive sponsorship deal. New Zealand will probably also have to help those two island teams financially. Can they do it and for how long? Will they do it if those players then move on to European clubs or Japan and those nations get the benefit from something New Zealand is paying for.
Finally, will Super Rugby give those island teams enough young talent to develop that they become more competitive at the international level so those players will rather stay and play for their home nations?
It is all very interesting, but it is going to take big money and lots of creative thinking to keep Super Rugby competitive and growing. New Zealand rugbys golden age might have past. They are facing some massive obstacles. Razor is already talking about getting South Africa involved in tours to New Zealand to give their local teams some exposure to a different type of physical game because Super Rugby will not prepare the franchise level players for the slower physical type of game they will find playing the Springboks and many European nations.
@@wlk2408 "....You have the whole world...." So does everybody else! Ireland selects according to the rules; the same rules that apply to everybody else!
The pain of NZ needing to beat Irl vs the pain of Irl needing to get beyond a QF with their best ever squad, this could be incredible.
Yes the Irish World XV is a very good team.
I don't think they equate. Ireland is far more desperate to re1ch a SF.
South African here. I love listening to this podcast. The hosts seem like three genuinely really nice guys. Keep it up! PS: I’m hoping for a Springbok vs All Blacks final, with the Bokke winning of course!
hoping for the same with an AB win
Same here, with the *1995* result to be avenged 💪🏾🇳🇿
@@timgregory82 so not the same then.
@@jonathandavis8599 clever Jonathan
Ireland dint play only one way . They play what’s in front of them and can play any number of ways. They have had to do that over the last 15 games they won in a row against the best rugby has to offer. 🇮🇪
These are the most non biased pundits and very knowledgeable. LOVE THE SHOW
Who has the highest ceiling? I am Irish and I would put all of NZ, France and SA ahead of us. The Irish team has been playing at a really high level, but I think Andy Farrell has really maximised the performance of this squad. How much more is there? My concern is there isn't another level for this squad. Both NZ and SA definitely have the raw materials to beat Ireland but the performance levels haven't been there yet. NZ are suddenly looking good and SA only need a kicker and some better decision making. France can be incredible but their performances can be more variable, you never know what you will get.
Ireland would need to add more power and speed to the squad before they could be fully confident.
I'm a kiwi,and seriousaly,if it is Ireland we meet in a QF,I would give the AB's a 20 to 30% chance of winning. And that's being optimistic.
This AB team just isn't much chop.
We've beaten New Zealand ina summer series win, beaten South Africa twice and France twice in 1 year and you think wwe cant beat them? We're only getting stronger. Dan Sheehan & Jack Conan are coming back into the tem. We're definnely teh team to beat. What the fuck are you on mate
Comparing the two games and fozzies comments, i think he was referring to the amount of time the ball is in play. Not necessarily the style. As a fan, i like games like SA v IRL that are close, but i dislike teams taking knees, walking to set piece, having a cuppa tea. Id love to see battles, but have the ball in play.
Yeah the ball in play time is getting ridiculous, as little as 30 minutes per game. Rugby purists might like this kind of game but it will do nothing to attract casual fans & grow the game globally. If a player is too injured to play on then replace him, if he is ok to continue then get up & get on with it.
Great show... As a non NZ supporter your show has great balance and insights ... Came hear after I could not stomach the bias of The Breakdown
I agree on South Africa. We still haven't seen the actual team or an actual game plan.
Even the win against New Zealand at Twickenham , was due to Willie being injured and they just went out to be physical. Against Ireland , they went another way and should have won the game on conversions.
If they put it together , it is going to be an amazing spectacle. Hopefully they get through to the quarter finals.
tired of hearing this kicking BS.. ireland have sexton who turned down 15 points with easy goals and played SA's physical game and beat them.
@@LeMerch Did Sexton kick at the poles ?? No !
The Springboks went for the points and missed. Sexton tried to be brave and failed !
Right now SA is the only team in the world who can have an off day and put 49 points on Tonga!
@andrewspaltman not guaranteed that even with pollard kicking they would have won, he has a 75% kick rate kicking within range so you have to take that into account. Also he can't kick over 50 metres so you can rule the 2 long range kicks out, so doubt it old have made a difference.
@@KMKM.S94 My point is that the Boks went for a guaranteed 11 points and missed.
It was there for the taking.
When the All Blacks have started with Retallic, Scott Barrett and Frizell this year, they have iced the opposition. Now if only we could add Blackadder to the back three along with Savea and Frizell. Then Ireland would really have their hands full.
I don't think that combination In the same positions have ever been.beaten
Start Cane then bring on Blackadder for him.
Whitelock comes on for Frizell moving Barrett to 6.
@@LJFN213 Start Papalii then bring on Blackadder.
Exactly .now that's an All black pack
Couldn't agree more.
so excited for AB vs Ireland. Im a bok fan but supporting the Ab's for sure
This is the exact reason why NZ is consistently the world's best rugby team. The intelligence and interpretation of the question could not of been understood and explained better anywhere else in the world, well down guys ...
Love the pod cast, love the unbiased opinions and appreciate the thought that goes into the responses.
Massive bok fan but man I understand why NZ are known for there rugby intelligence.....
Excellent channel, keep up the good work boys....
Speaking as an Irish fan, France has got to be considered the team with the highest ceiling. They have a huge pack that rivals anyone, one of the best defensive coaches in the world in Shaun Edwards, they have unbelievable attacking talent like Penaud, the best player in the world in DuPont who has the capacity to turn any game, and when they are in that “jouer jouer” mood in front of a home support then it becomes a really potent mix.
Rassie is right tho🤷 i dont bother watching the full match of those blow out games!! Soon as they have the bonus point i stop watching
Agree it’s so lame watching such one sided games. As per usual Fozzie has no idea what he’s talking about. Rugby is such a great game because it is multifaceted and you can win playing so many different brands of rugby.
Agreed with having Leister to be the other winger .. think he would bring great surprise for the AB
The best thing about rugby as you can have a game full of pressure or an attacking spectacle and both are fantastic to watch!!
Definitely! But would you agree that defence wins the knockout games? The South Africa Ireland game was a cliffhanger although not a high scoring one. I'm hoping for a fourth cup for the All Blacks.
Generally, yes, although 2015 was a bit of an anomaly!!
@@kaekillayi think it’s more about execution under pressure that wins. And when you reduce the difficulty of the task it increases the ability to execute under pressure.
The 2015 ABs had ridiculous skill and ability to perform those skills under pressure.
@@ChangusMaximus I understand. It is a very good point. Who, in your opinion has the best execution under pressure? I believe Ireland and France have the edge in that department. Any thoughts?
@@kaekillay IMHO Ireland have highest skill under pressure. Boks have an “easier” game plan and therefore still great performance under pressure. And France have highest ceiling but not as good as Ireland under pressure.
This is by far the best NZ show! I would go as far as to say the best rugby show.
Great show, with the ceiling discussion - Parsons does it again!
There was a lot of attack in the SA Ireland game as well, but good defense or errors prevented the actual tries being scored. Still good to watch. Ok if Foster is saying that more tries should be scored to make the game more attractive, but it should be balanced. A game in which one team is totally dominated has no suspense, and isn't suspense that adds to the enjoyment? Rugby union is a game with set pieces, that's the game. Why do people want it to resemble 7s or league? Find a way to have fewer stoppages, but I am not sure a Boks vs ABs game with a score of 65-78 (yes I am letting the ABs win this one) will be better to watch than a 18-21 for example
12:14 "this ABs team is back"... overstatement of the century
It's not Will Jordan who should be dropped for the Leicester/Telea wing combo, it should be Beauden Barrett. Unfortunately he's a protected species in that team despite the fact he seems to be worth more points to the opposition with his aimless kicking than the side he's supposed to be on. The Mo'unga/Beauden combo didn't work four years ago, and it isn't working this time either. Two more games and that failed experiment will finally be over, and Foster.
The highest ceiling question is interesting but probably not relevant to the eventual winner. Even the most partisan South African supporter (me included) would admit that in 2007 and 2019 the All Blacks always had the highest ceiling, but they didn't perform to their ceiling, in one game that counted, each time. If South Africa play their very best game at the moment, I don't believe that any team can cope with that, it is honestly just too brutal, and that was most realized in the pre-world cup 35-7 vs New Zealand, I fully believe on that day Ireland would have also lost 35-7 or close to it. The thing is, I think Ireland play most consistently close to their potential. I.e. Ireland are consistently at 95% of the max potential for any team, the boks played at 100% against New Zealand, but are more consistently around 85-90%.
A power winger to assist forwards at breakdown definitely helps as its our biggest weakness. James Lowe is very good at winning or slowing breakdown on wing defence
Out of top 4 teams honestly there is nothing in it anyone can win on any day thats how tight it is honestly they very much same.
This an excellent rugby show!
Keep it up
From a Saffa
Fozzie needs to go coach Touch rugby if he wants to see many tries. The SA vs Ireland game was brutal, it was intense and it was edge of your seat stuff! There is no comparison at all between the 2 games, Italy was poor and the AB's were just being the AB's...playing touch rugby....rugby as a whole has changed so much
I’m surprised they didn’t talk about the ABs defence out wide. Italy exposed them quite a few times out wide with a few wide passes. The defence in general seems very passive and compressed in the middle & short out wide. Boks are similar in formation but the line speed they use makes it almost impossible to get it out wide whereas the ABs don’t have the same line speed to negate. You’d think a team like Ireland will absolutely expose them there?
ABs up 90+ points... come on. Diff game vs Ireland, everyone switched on eyes open, everyone will be ON IT
Great analysis. Very true.
@@LeMerch hope so! 🤞
To be fair, it was the Australian fans booing Eddie Jones...
Re Foster
Competition over exhibition every day
The Boks are playing exactly the type of game they built towards over the past 3 years, & said as much. Firm dna foundations 1st then layers on top.
Question for the show ahead of the QF between NZ and Ireland
Have you heard of the Raeburn Shield? (Which Ireland hold and NZ could take if they win)
It is an unofficial world rugby lineal title taking the first game of international rugby played in 1871 (at Raeburn Place in Edinburgh) where Scotland beat England and then essentially playing "winner stays on" until today.
Imagine Ranfurly Shield vibes but on the international stage, it would be freaking epic.
Anyway, quite a lot of people following it online and curious if you guys have come across the idea and what you think of it.
Hi Dave. I do follow the Raeburn Shield. It's a cool concept!
The Allblacks biggest issue has always been pressure. DC talked sbout their issues in 07 about their culture for pressure. We are seeing the same thing now. It just means our next world cup will be our best.
Have to agree with James with SA and the ceiling. SA can be beaten on any given day as Japan showed us in 2015, but if you had an NHL playoff best of 7 style, I think SA would come out on top.
The only reason SA lost to Japan was because we underestimated them.
I agree that SA v Ireland game was awesome!!luv the ABS but they arent on those 2 teams level
Haven’t been since Fozzy started.
@@ntlearning I agree mate ,thats why i cant wait to see what old Robinson can do and hopefully get the right players in their right position and bring some new blood into this team
Dumb ass comment!
Twickenham saw the AB's playing with 7 forwards for half the game. As well the referees 'interpretations' were subjective and gave the Bok forwards leg up after leg up after leg up AND finally the Boks were up for the game.
Mt Smart was a better metric where both teams played with their entire packs all game AND the referee didnt feature.
The Ab's are now above both of those teams.
AB's can bear them both. Ireland is better than SA also. They are not on same level....
Bok supporter here. The ABs performance against a 6 nations team was so clinical. This is one seriously good team. Ireland will not be going to no semi final.
You're just butthurting over that SA loss to Ireland. LOL!
@@ciarancosgrave Sure buddy. Denial. We lost against a better Ireland team on the day. It's going to be an AB vs Boks final or AB vs France final.
Stop crying bokks take it like man
@@geoffhogan4831just like you were wrong about SA v IRE, you're wrong now
Mate Italy are a joke. The ABs were great but putting the sword to Italy is as good as an indicator of how the Ireland vs AB will go as Wales putting 40 on Australia would tell you how Wales v ABs would go. I'm a Wales supporter the ABs would murder us.
Ceilings........
First 20 mins Mt Smart - NZ v SA showed NZ potential.
First 20 mins game 2 Ireland v NZ showed Ireland potential.
First 20 mins France v NZ 2021 showed France potential.
First 20 mins SA "B" team against Australia 2023 showed SA potential.
All amazing displays of power, accuracy and speed. If on their day, none can be separated aside form discipline which to be fair Ireland have the best record so far.
Over the last 2 years I’ve always watched South Africa with a sense that they holding back. I don’t know if it’s just massive potential that they haven’t been able to unlock or that they don’t want to show their hands and are sandbagging… or maybe it’s just wishful thinking
@andy_olive wishful thinking. They are not that mysterious. They are beatable.
Ireland just did that.
@@andy_olive As a NZ fan I wouldnt say the Boks hold back but I think its obvious they experiment with combinations & tactics more than most teams. Its pretty clear who NZ/IRE/FR starting 15s are but its anyones guess who the Boks will select from game to game. This could be a good thing in that they are difficult to analyze & prepare for, it could be a bad thing in that they have failed to build cohesion..only time will tell.
@@vagalN yeah they did no discussion there. The boks also didn’t seem too stressed about losing a pool game
While the Irish were cheering everything
Shout out to the Macho man, 'Oooooooo yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaah'
I hoping we (ABs) have not showed all our cards yet because if all we have is a basic 3 man pod variation or one up/shovel then its a hit and hope for basic mistakes.
With respect fellas I think there is a better angle of the analogy. Each team is in an office block. A team like Australia for example, not playing well and only just put together, is on floor 8 of their block. They have 11 floors. Playing at their best when everything is working they could get to 11. Let's say Ireland are consistently top performing. They are on level 12. Maybe SA are playing at level 11 currently.
The question is, how tall are the buildings? A team playing a limited game plan of 12 storeys, playing it well at level 11, might be 70m high. But a team playing a varied game plan that can adapt under pressure who can score in different ways and are setup to be minimally hurt from card disadvantages have more height in every storey. Playing at level 10 only in a building of 12 storeys, they could still be 75m high, higher than another team playing a gameplan better that might not have enough strings to get out of a jam
The ABs snapped into action in the same match as the Italians having a major bad hair day. The perfect storm for a massacre.
As an AB fan I just can't see them getting to the final. Ireland are almost as clinical as the AB's in 2015. I am crossing my fingers.
As I see it the biggest problem in rugby is that before the game went professional it was all about playing now it all about the spectators
In Gaelic games we have a black card along with yellow and red.
I think we should replace the red card with a black card.
So existing reds mean the player has to be taken off but in 10 minutes someone can come on to replace that black.
Then keep the red for the extreme things like punches, major tip tackles etc.
It wouldn't change much rules in around the game, only changes the sanctions for the same instances.
I mean to treat a career ending tip tackle with an accidental head clash is ridiculous.
Guys, the red card discussion was interesting. I believe what we really need to analyse is, has issuing red cards for head contact ACTUALLY decreased the instances of head on head contact? I’m not even sure someone has done the stats on this or it would probably be available for us to read.. thoughts?
Good man Bryn, giving us Irish no ammunition to put on the wall
Italy seemed to give up after the 3rd try.
They totally surrendered after the third try.
Abs opened them up with backs
Great show lads 👍
Don’t know about France.
If everyone played to their potential, no one would get the ball off the Africans as they go from set piece to set piece…
If ABs play to full potential game over after 20 mins.
But everyone has had a go at the Irish and failed over 2 years.
Full strength France at their full potential may just be the best team in the world. Not just Dupont and Ntamack but players like Penaud are great attackers. They are the best team to be able to cope with SA physically too.
Because Ireland play smart they know the rules better than anyone and then you have a legend like Sexton running the backs .Irish pack are very smart and winning ball off rucks lineouts etc they make few mistakes are very disciplined very fit and well drilled side
@@crw45ableIreland coped with the South Africans nicely
@@tommcg7564 That's true, and we could go on and win it alright. It's impossible to call at the minute, particularly with how the ABs played against Italy.
Talk of potential is mostly a load of shite.
Whatever happens the top 4 teams will be huge games with lots of excitement and suspense and i'm sure that they will not disappoint, go Springboks !!!!
To beat Ireland, the ABs need to get parity and more in the forwards. Rugby is a simple game. The ABs have a great attack. But it needs front foot ball. Ireland will be doing everything it can to retain possession, to play the ABs in their half to force them to kick it back, and starve the AB backline. If the ABs can get front foot ball, their backline can punch holes in anybody's defence.
Great segment Gents!
I'm really intrigued which team they will pick!!! 😊
ITS CALLED TEST MATCH RUGBY FOR A REASON. THE BEST GAME SO FAR WAS IRELAND VS THE BOKS. TEST MATCH RUGBY AT ITS BEST
Excellent analysis as always
Discipline- is there ever a circumstance where it is good for your team to concede a penalty? We keep banging on about discipline when teams concede multiple penalties, but is that just an inevitable consequence of the other team having momentum? And if the penalties were not conceded, breaking that momentum, the opposition would instead be scoring more tries? Can teams be strategic about conceding penalties, in the same way as they might decide to kick to the corner rather than take 3? Or is conceding penalties just unambiguously bad?
The try that Coles scored is exactly the try that Marx scored against the AB's at Twickenham. Hilarious.
🤣🤣
I’m pretty sure Sean Fitzpatrick scored a few like that for the blacks and the blues. Look him up. We don’t need to copy South Africans , we have our own moves ya know
@@tommcg7564I know who he is watched him through the 80's and 90's. Didn't say SA came up with it, just chuckled at how the pundits talk about it.
@@derickellisster and so should they pay mention to Marx for a move the all blacks have actually played many a times? Not quite getting what you mean
@@tommcg7564 Nope. Didn't say that. You can be proud of the AB's. They sure deserve it. It's clear that you don't see what I see. But that is to be expected given your loyalty. Have a nice day.
It seems that Italy were focused on keeping the game tight and attritional, once the A.B’s opened them up, they had no plan B
Several gifted tries - eg. monty ioane drifts in to take cane leaving coles unmarked for an easy run in. He would've known he had a man on the inside for that job and should've tracked coles. too easy when basic defensive errors happen.
Massive props to the ABS as Italy came close vs France AND Ireland in the 6N
LOL.. Ireland put out an academy team
Ireland is Ireland. Always. Regardless of the roster - you should know better
@@LeMerch
nah I actually look into context and not stay on surface level @@benoitcransac2178
foster makes me embarassed to be an ABs fan sometimes man he needs to stop with this petty bullshit
Neutral here - but Ireland are currently on a 17 game winning streak (just short of NZ and England 18 record).
Ireland has done this because they play what's in front of them like no other team. They are literally the most versatile team out there.
Prediction Ireland Vs New Zealand - Ireland win by 12
Ireland and NZ have smaller packs, I think around the 880kg-900kg where as France and SA have packs around the 950+kg and similar size guys to bring off the bench, since rugby is won up front still, I think SA/France have the higher ceiling, plus they also have good backs.
Ireland have best cohesion and clarity in what they're trying to do, and NZ still have that xfactor in their players to win against any team.
Fellas has some fresh fades
What NZ needs to do against Uruguay is not to repeat what they did against Italy; rather, they need to do what they've done in pool games in past WCs, when they've played "lesser" teams and maybe not looked great on the stats sheet, but it's because they were working on specific things. They treated games against teams like Uruguay not as opportunities to run up the score, but more as really intense practice sessions against motivated opposition. Look at their games against Namibia and Georgia in 2015 for examples.
I don't see how winning your previous two games by a total of two hundred points can in any way prepare you for a challenge like Ireland. Might as well play touch rugby.
The only reason fans boo, is because they’re all rooting for underdogs. As a South African, there was a lot of booing in our games against Tonga and Romania when we were kicking for poles and when penalties were awarded to the Springboks. Nothing more than that.
If Dupont plays it's a travesty and the player safety laws and cards are garbage if he gets injured more imagine the backlash
He'll play bro you watch
It was never about player safety. It’s about reducing the lawsuits due to CTE / brain damage
NZ would need a pack to get a ceiling and they'd have to hv a coach who thought the Ireland Bok game was better than the NZ Italy game. Having said that I have this terrible feeling that their pack will be competitive against Ireland and then the game will be a nail bitter, hopefully the difference is that Ireland are on a win streak and like the AB's of old, they seem to find a way to win.
Only person getting booed at is Eddie.
The all blacks play very entertaining rugby, good to watch, but the northern teams aren't trying to play the AB'S at their own game, why would they. We haven't adapted or evolved,it doesn't look like we know how to play anything else. When foz took over he said he wasn't changing anything and it looks like he hasn't. I really hope I'm wrong, and they're holding something back. But from what we've seen that inconsistency is still there. Brilliant one game and terribly disappointing the next. We seem to struggle to exit our own half and go into the super rugby throw it around mode or just kick and hope.
AB'S please prove me wrong.....
Same. Seen it before almost free running rugby vs Italy but they won't get an invitation against ireland. Key to the Abs survival selection and Defense
Zero innovation with Foster, but variation has improved with Ryan and Schmitt coming onboard.
@@markward1473 agree 100%
@@markward1473can't have it both ways, blame Foz when they lose n congratulate Ryan n Schmidt when they win
You are confused I commented on innovation under his leadership which I believe is a fair critique. Foz isn't on the field when we have given away dopey penalties / yellow / red cards which has contributed to some of our losses in my opinion.@@MeanAzz_13
Good man Bryn
Great show guys!! James you’re brilliant! SA style also has us baffled many times😂
AB played well but Italians did not work off the ball or scramble in D.
Other teams do miss tackles - but scrambled INTENSELY to cover/block/defend.
AB will have to adapt to this and perform under pressure….it is possible.
The world cup is only ever three games - quarters, semis and finals. For a top flight team the pool games are training runs. This game against Italy was a training runs and nothing more can be read into it. In every world cup there are only ever really four teams who can win. I think the AB's are very much the fourth of this iterations four teams mostly because of inept coaching, though the fortunes of France may well be badly injury affected, putting the AB's third. The completely moronic draw pits the AB's against Ireland in the quarter finals. It's hard to see the AB's beating Ireland, though on a good day they can do it. The problem for the AB's is that Ireland - like the AB's in the decade before Fosters tenure - can win on a bad day. I think if that game was played ten times that Ireland would win 8 or 9 of them. The AB's have to target Sexton and the Irish lineout. The comments about the world cup being decided on discipline are salient. The southern hemisphere are at a disadvantage regarding this as the refereeing is different in the northern hemisphere and that might be enough to decide a game against the AB's. It's not a coincidence that there were no cards in the Ireland South Africa game with most of those players used to the northern hemisphere refereeing.
Will be a long day at the office v Ireland I am sorry to say with the men in Green at least 10-15 points better
@@martinquinn5259 It will be great to watch whatever the outcome. Just wait until Robertson takes over, then things will change. And that's coming from an Aucklander
Blackadder has to play against Uruguay to get him prepared.
Drinking game. Take a shot if Jippa says "it's won up front" or "set the platform". Take a shot if Bryn says "lightning quick ball" or "ruck speed"
BRuh hI IH IVe iSO Yoiure so fucking rightttttt,.
Bryn's phrase should be "devils advocate".
Or “in and around”
Achilles heel.
"Pushing the ceiling" well what is the ceiling, it is a system. What is beyond the system? It is ability to improvise, it is playing with flair. Only the Welsh of the 70s and the French have done it no matter how mercurial. Leinster like Ireland have a perfectly drilled system, the most perfectly drilled system in fact, then come New Zealand and South Africa, but these teams have no flair, they perfect their system.
For 2027 World Cup, can Eddie Jones become Graham Henry 2.0?
Despite Wallabies’ worst World Cup in 2023, Eddie Jones is likely to keep his job.
16 years ago, Graham Henry kept his job under similar circumstances.
So can Wallabies win their next home World Cup with Eddie Jones?
quailty kinda low. love the show and in-depth analysis
Doesn't your second sentence contradict the first?
@@jzkramer perhaps he meant video quality… but it’s fine for me 🤷♂️
I'm getting Max 360p@@sutherlander
@@sutherlander @jzkramer yeah i meant video quality. it was suck at 360p for me. I LOVE THE SHOW! haha
Consistently knee jerk… that’s fozzies musical chairs philosophy 😅
Jippa for Prime Minister!!!
You must be a national supporter 😂
@@tommcg7564brother I am south african............i love this geezer.
i do think there are some fans showing frustration about the reffing. For example, the portgual fans got an inspiring try, only for it to be overturned later. The booing i think was in line with this, rather then anything towards the players.
It's France the French boo everything it's just part of the day out
Blackadder would do just as well as Frizzell if not better with his engine.
I wouldn't mind giving Ardie a rest or use as a sub for next game.
If he can stay on a rugby field😂
@@center__mass yes its been an unfortunate run but unless you are Ardie who is superman and should be at 7, most others get injured.
Frizell is now an automatic. Throwing Blackadder in while he hasn’t played at that level yet is daft.
Frizell is way better at international level. Taller, more physical and at 6’5 is a genuine 3 line out option at the back at international level.
That was a great question. If the All blacks can find a way to replicate that first 20 min at Mt Smart nobody can stop them.
Apart from last game our kicking game (best since Mt Smart) we have been too inconsistent with our zero pressure kicking game.. And why can we not do competitive restarts like Carter would do with McCaw and Reid? We appear to have given up on it for the most part.
I would have rather watched the ABs win 50-3 than the 96-17 with 2 wingers failing to defend their man(or anyone) and a Beauden Barret handbag cover tackle.
Curious thought, if you didn't play jordan and telea against france and instead had wingers not giving away multiple unforced penalties each, including a yellow card for jordan(should be 2), does the game end differently. Offensive play ball in hand is only part of a game.
Who thinks Ireland will win? Ireland might win if we bring our A game. 50/50. Ireland, remember the WC four years ago. It's the same as NZ losing the test series. Both teams want payback in some way. Hopefully, we beat Scotland first 🙏
i feel ireland will have pain from previous world cups especially 2019 i think hurt them bad that qf loss and i feel that will really motivate them to get this win in quarter final finally. do feel foster maybe feels ireland is a easy for them just from his comments
NZ vs SA final, lets go!
Bryn “in and around” Hall
We’ve seen the ceiling of Ireland & SA - or at least more so than any other teams.
We haven’t seen the ceiling of France yet. In truth they haven’t got out of 3rd gear.
Nobody is quite sure what the ceiling of NZ is, but if it clicks then it may be unbeatable.
England is a mystery as they have been poor for years, and haven’t had a challenge in the tournament yet due to the lack of competitiveness in Pool D.
Wales are building every game and will be tough for anyone to beat. They’re such a new team that their ceiling is a total mystery at the moment, but it could be quite high.
Scotland have been in form for a while, in a similar way to Ireland, so we know roughly what they can and can’t do. Their ceiling probably isn’t as high as any of the other teams I’ve mentioned.
Australia - no idea. Time to discuss this is in 4 years 😂
so Ian Foster enjoys watching games like All Blacks vs Namibia. As in tier 2 nations losing to tier 1 nations by a huge margin.
Springboks definitely pushing the boundaries and not afraid to risk it.
There's only two Team lighting up the World Cup is Fiji and NZ All Blacks...Fiji to the Semis and NZ Win the world cup..
😂
I don't see it, honestly cannot even begin to see what you are seeing. NZ is so far behind France, Ireland and SA.
Being able to put a cricket score on a poor Italy is not the same as facing an one of the top 3 and the pressure they put in the breakdown.
The All Black History since 1987 has been Colourful. Every time when they had been Favourite, they had been "Pipped at the Post"
When they were not favourites they won.
The French Loss 2023 seemed (To Me) Suspicious as the AB's seemed Sluggish which is NOT normal.
It was like they were Determined Not to be Favourites.
Maybe this was so they could Peak at the Finals.
Ireland. Watch Out. We are Coming for You.
REF's! Let the Game Flow!!! Less Whistle and More Play!
if the italians weren't keeping their powder dry for france then somethings badly amiss with them - so many half hearted tackles and lack of fight in defence with ABs it wasnt funny
All Blacks are limited by their pack. On their best day they can maybe match Ireland, France and South Africa but on those teams’ best days they will outclass the current ABs pack. Sorry lads. Harsh truth.
Our pack giving away dumb penalties is one element that has gradually felt like it has gotten worse. The lines Ireland forwards used against us when they won the series was superior to what our defense could handle at times and better than the lines we used. That is clearly on the coaching team though.
NZ must win against a team that has altered them most in the recent past. Ireland will try to go through the middle and expose NZ's passive defence. Soft shoulders in Dunedin '22 (Ofa' and Bower for the 1st try) and multiple cards (Red and 2xyellow) is what changed the momentum that day. If the result were different that day....
reading too much into it. wouldn't mind seeing attacking rugby but he still has a crop to play that style of rugby. we need flow rugby
Nobody knows where the AB's ceiling is. It has always been high. They will live up to the occasion. This is from a Springbok supporter.
I predict the AB's to be in the final. Hopefully against the Bokke. That will be a classic. In France of all places.
I would like to know the tonga play that clashed with Mapimpi that cause the same injury then Johan Deysel from Namibia did with Depont want is going to happen to him. On the pitch the ref gave just a penalty after the tmo said yellow card so ref over ruled tmo. However the rugby incident that occurred with Eben and the player the jumped into him, the ref on pitch was itching to give Eben a yellow bunker revue but Tmo luckily said no it is a incident not on purpose. So Deysel got max penalty which game down to 6 weeks. Scott Barrett's red card in the warm up game got overturned where is the consistency and why does some rules only apply to some team and some players but then there is another set of rules for other teams and players. Dont know how closely you watched the Ireland vs SA game Bondi Aki was supposed to get a red card in what he did in the mall but nothing happen. Ben the ref is not world cup worthy ref really
No other team at this world cup would put that much on Italy
Keep backing Samoa James while wales quietly glide into the QF
We shouldn’t blindly just start adding more teams to the Rugby Championship and should only add teams based on merit so the competition level can remain high and so we don’t end up with a situation like Italy in the Six Nations.
Argentina earned their spot through getting good enough results in the 2007 and 2011 RWCs and performing well against tier 1 nations where they showed they could actually beat other tier 1 sides often enough.
Japan and Fiji have shown the most potential and have had some success but need to show more as they haven’t reached the level of success Argentina had between 2007 to 2011.
What are you on about? Pre Argentina joint the Rugby Championship Fiji had a waaaaaaay better record at world cups