I wouldn't even say it's "balls". It's just a complete lack of safety culture. It's a very common things, among the common people. There's not even thoughts in that direction. Look at rallying in the 80's, and the fans in Portugal, for example. Absolutely nuts.
The clips in colour are indeed from John Frankenheimer's film Grand Prix. The drivers of the Ferrari and the Mclaren (yes - the white car!) were Yves Montand and James Garner, respectively. In a scene depicting a boozeup on Sunday night you see loads of the real drivers of 1967, Hill, Clark, Bonnier, Rindt and several others. It's MEGA. Especially for us who folloved F1 already then.
All of old Spa was dangerous, especially in the wet. The Masta kink was the one that gave drivers nightmares but pretty much every corner was extremely dangerous. In terms of fatalities, I seem to remember that Malmedy was the worst, seen at 0:11 in this video. Holowell bend was named after a motorcyclist who was killed there. Stavelot, Burnenville, Cottage, Quarry and Blanchimont were all scenes of fatalities.
@@Supersonic_racing "If there's a circuit you must fear, that's Spa Francorchamps" Chris Amon "Spa Francorchamps is a circuit for men" Niki Lauda Best regards from Venezuela 🇻🇪 ¡Forza Ferrari! 🏎️
Les Combes had the biggest crashes. It was as if drivers had forgotten that the corner was there, after the fast sweeps from Raidillon. During the 24h races drivers seemed to just follow their headlights, rather than looking to see where the corner went. Massimo Larini went straight on flat out and was launched about 15m into the air. He wasn't the first to do so, but almost the last.
Eau Rouge was a much tighter left into Raidillon on the old circuit and not seen as much of a challenge . Burnenville, Malmedy, Masta, Holowell, Stavelot and Quarry ( all long gone for racing but still driveable as public roads except the 2nd part of Malmedy), were the corners they feared
@@ciaranmcguinness8900 yes there's still a corner named Stavelot on today's track, that's where the downhill ends and before they reach the flatout section that leads into Blanchimot.
I kinda want to see a 15 minute documentary of something like this. Showing modern drivers go around looking at the old track, mixed in with footage of racing on it
I've driven most of the old Spa circuit that's on present day public roads, and what's very obvious is that at ordinary road legal speeds, it is very difficult to actually identify where the significant bends are. They are so open and sweeping, and it's just a normal rural road with houses, trees and signposts. I had to try and imagine what it would be like at 3-4 times the speed that I was toddling round in my Honda hatchback.
Same goes for the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans; if you didn't know any better, you'd wonder what the fuss is about. Racing speeds make all the difference!
In 1986 I went with Jackie Stewart to the spot at Spa where he’d had his big crash 20 years earlier. He said the wire wasn’t to keep cars in, but to keep cows out . . .
F1 today: We require every team to build a state-of-the-art survival cell that can take over 100gs of force and line run off with hi-tech barriers that absorb an insane amount of force to keep the drivers as safe as possible. F1 then: 0i m8 heres a gas can with wheels with a v8 strapped to your back go and send it around this Belgian road just make sure if you crash to avoid the houses. You'll want to land in a field when you fly out of your car.
Modern F1 drivers: "Theres 3m of unsecured concrete in this track! This is outrageously dangerous and the FIA need to do something about this!" 60s F1 drivers: "Yeah my teammate has just been decapitated in the last race, I'll still keep going on"
@@R9naldo or be a motorcyclist - Isle of Man is no different today and you have no crash cell only two wheels - but you do have good medical services and helicopters in communication
For anyone who played Grand Prix Legends back in the day this corner/chicane was a challenge for sure. Anyone playing historic Spa in whatever sim will be aware that this corner/chicane deserves the utmost respect.
Back in the days of beautiful cars, romantic tracks, incredible drivers, great competition and overall majestic racing. Sadly F1 is no longer capable of capturing those moments.
JIM CLARK - By far the greatest driver ever - no doubt. He is and was the Best of the Best. No other driver in history until today was so superior as Clark. This man is the Olymp of driving - the Michelangelo of racing - a dynamic art at the highest level. So smooth, so precise, so fast....simply out of this world. One, who won 4 consecutive times in Spa - 1963 by 5 minutes (!) in monsoon rain...One, who takes back a complete lap (!) in Monza and back into the lead... One, who took pole on the original 22,8 km Nürburgring track by 9 (!) seconds and more....One who won Indy by 2 whole (!) laps...For eternity and by lightyears unmatched in the sport. That`s just four examples of his mesmeric unique genius...
Hey look, everyone knows about Jim Clark already. If you wanted to mention anything further about his tenure here , you should have mentioned that he hated this circuit and yet won on it four consecutive years. Not to mention he was brilliantly fast during the start of the 1962 race. He had Gilles Villeneuve speed when he launched off the grid that day.
That Jimmy hated Spa is already known too, so what ??? Believe me, he was always - even - faster than Gilles, but combinded with unmatched smoothness and precision...by the way: I admire Gilles too@@maxmulsanne7054
The video seems to be confused between Malmedy (shown first) and Masta. The real hazard at Masta was the roadside building right at the exit. Even takes commitment in a simulator. My favourite historic track. No need for penalties for exceeding the track limits, they were built in.
That thumbnail of Jo Bonnier's private Cooper-Maserati is legend. In fact it's still sitting there today being used as a mailbox by the farmer who lives there. Anyways.... Spa 1966: 1) John Surtees' greatest victory. 2) ... before he told Enzo to stuff it ... 3) ... before Enzo finally listened to JS, and fired that load of tripe, Eugenio Dragoni (the problem child).
Yes I remember this corner from GPL. One of those ones where you can go through at a certain speed if you get it right but slightly wrong, forget about it......Of course in a game, you just reset or finish the race, these guys didn't have that option.
@@Supersonic_racing It was hard man... You would push and push and push, finally get a clean lap and find you're still way off the pace. Took a LOT of time and effort to get competitive at that one. Great game though.
As an old GPLer, was obsessed with it for a few years, but I always hated Spa. Even though it's a sim you can see that the track was quite satanic in design. I've probably aced Masta twice in a million attempts. Died a lot there.
Idk if I'm being a baby about it, but I was kinda mad how unsafe f1 used to be and how we lost so many great drivers back then. But that's why the FIA makes safety their priority
@@bowlock9901 Most drivers who drove in F1 in 1950 were racing drivers before the war too. With the same death rates. I checked the Wikipedia page for several of them and I didn't find a single one who had ever driven a fighter.
The drivers knew the danger but the fame and fortune were too good to pass up. All forms of racing were dangerous then. It's a bit of a blessing that the cars were much slower though. Imagine going at the speeds of today's cars with virtually no safety devices and brakes that barely slowed the car down. You'd have one death per race.
Even the 500cc GP bikes looked quick through Masta. Eau Rouge was a lot tighter back in the day. Chris Amon called Burnenville the 'unbeleivable' corner because it was taken so fast, about 190mph. And if you actually drive around the old circuit it really is unbeleivable to think if those speeds around there.
F1 in my youth was a blood sport. I dropped out with the death of my national hero Gilles Villeneuve and didn't come back for many years. All credit to Sir Jackie Stewart for his devotion to driver safety. Many live because of his courage and initiative. The old-time carnage would have killed the sport in the modern world.
Legend has it that in the early 50s, there was a villager whose doorstep led directly onto the second apex of the Masta kink. He would routinely berate and abuse the back markers and slower drivers, telling them that their lack of speed correlated closely to their lack of courage. He was soon well known within the paddock, drivers called him the Masta Baiter.
How did they ever get to hear whatever he yelled at them? How did the drivers even notice him more than a fraction of a second as they passed Masta at insane speeds? That legend is most likely urban hearsay which became a myth.
@@Supersonic_racing Definitely! The best gift for me was learning the tracks. Then later on the 3rd party tracks showed me so many circuits and races I never knew about! Between Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2 and iRacing I get plenty of track knowledge these days.
It's a corner that baits competitive men into meeting their demise. You can always back off and make it easily but if you want to win you have to keep the throttle pinned and thread the needle at 180mph knowing that if you miss you mark or the car doesn't do as asked then you'll be going home in a pine box.
I wouldn’t even say 2nd. More like 3rd least scary corner. Burnenville was the scariest corner, definitely. Masta Kink, Malmedy, Holowell/Stavelot, the whole kinked section between Eau Rouge and Les Combes (that’s nowadays a straight) and the whole run up to Blanchimont and Clubhouse were scarier.
Would had been Nice to actually seen a full Comparison of the changes made on different tracks. I saw one video about Monaco were you visably saw the changes from the beggining to how it looks like now
Jimmy broadbent made couple videos about the old circuits in VR Racing sim, with the old cars. He was already scared, even though it was still a game...
Back in the day there also was the Buonfornello straight at the Targa Florio, I do think that those curves are far more dangerous than Masta. Drivers back in the days must have been like 10 seconds of the pace purely due to the weight of their balls.
Pretty sure most of the old footage is from the old racing film ‘Grand Prix’ which I believe is on Amazon Prime, not sure about other streaming services
Masta Kink, a left-right kink in the middle of a flat out straightaway. Enter too fast and you might lose your life, enter too slow then you lose speed and time on the straight up until stavelot.
Jackie Stewart mentioned Masta Kink as the most challenging corner all around the world. I don't think it's written in his autobiography, maybe in an interview with him🤔
@@Supersonic_racing I will try. Two years ago I wrote an article about Jackie based on his autobiography Winning is not enough. In that article, I mentioned something like this: Masta Kink was definitely the most challenging corner in the world. Everybody thinks Eau Rouge ...but Masta Kink is the Corner. I know that it comes from an interview I found on RUclips back then. EDIT: I found it. It starts around 18:55 ruclips.net/video/ISOEXQG5vOo/видео.html
hamiltons forgetting f1 prior to the front wing being invented meant that the tracks didnt have sharp bends and instead were long flowing and high speed and far more dangerous. cars didnt have the extra downforce as today of which when the front wing was invented suddenly cars could cope with sharp bends and the drivers entailed more manouvers in terms of cornering ability. prior to this it was more of a marathon to control essentially a box on wheels going around 180/190 down mile straights with slight bends which could catapult you off of the track and into someone brick wall or off of a mountain. those drivers had real balls.
Its even crazier that the fia boycotted the 2021 Belgium gp cuz it was too wet. But comparing this to drivers who drove on the dangerous 14 mile layout in the fog and rain in aluminum matchboxes with no safety equipment without even considering boycotting makes the 2021 spa grand prix look pitiful
I hope they leave Eau Rouge alone. Tired of the FIA watering down tracks. Between that and Tilke there's barely any interesting tracks left on the F1 schedule.
Tilke is the worst thing to happen to the sport. Him and safety queens killed it. I'm all for making the cars safer, and the tracks as well with improved run offs, better walls etc., but don't neuter the tracks and kill the old configs.
305kph Through masta kink - really? Then After all these years I have discovered a fault in the good racing sim gpl. Its impossible to go through much faster than 280kph. 305 would no doubt end up in flames
Yes, it absolutely is original. It’s from John Frankenheimer’s 1966 movie, “Grand Prix”. The camera was mounted on an old and uncompetitive McLaren driven by former World Champion Phil Hill.
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Ah yes, the time when even the fans were required to have balls.
LOL
And the drivers...
I wouldn't even say it's "balls". It's just a complete lack of safety culture. It's a very common things, among the common people. There's not even thoughts in that direction. Look at rallying in the 80's, and the fans in Portugal, for example. Absolutely nuts.
Just like Group B where the spectators, drivers, and codrivers all have titanium balls
@@chakko007 They know it’s dangerous, they just don’t mind.
The clips in colour are indeed from John Frankenheimer's film Grand Prix. The drivers of the Ferrari and the Mclaren (yes - the white car!) were Yves Montand and James Garner, respectively. In a scene depicting a boozeup on Sunday night you see loads of the real drivers of 1967, Hill, Clark, Bonnier, Rindt and several others. It's MEGA. Especially for us who folloved F1 already then.
Yep, Hill and McLaren even had speaking roles...
I really want to watch it one of these days, what streaming service is it on?
@@AmokCanuck Amazon Prime, I guess. Can apparently also be seen via RUclips. I have the DVD 😁
Fangio was in that party scene as well as Bruce Mclaren, as I recall.
And then to think there was Pescara and Targa Florio… levels to the game back then.
All of old Spa was dangerous, especially in the wet. The Masta kink was the one that gave drivers nightmares but pretty much every corner was extremely dangerous. In terms of fatalities, I seem to remember that Malmedy was the worst, seen at 0:11 in this video. Holowell bend was named after a motorcyclist who was killed there. Stavelot, Burnenville, Cottage, Quarry and Blanchimont were all scenes of fatalities.
I recently saw a video on youtube that showed all the fatalities on the old track, i believe balnchimont took the most souls over the years
@@Supersonic_racing
"If there's a circuit you must fear, that's Spa Francorchamps"
Chris Amon
"Spa Francorchamps is a circuit for men"
Niki Lauda
Best regards from Venezuela 🇻🇪
¡Forza Ferrari! 🏎️
@@Caroni100 i see a fellow venezuelan here, best regards for you too
Les Combes had the biggest crashes. It was as if drivers had forgotten that the corner was there, after the fast sweeps from Raidillon. During the 24h races drivers seemed to just follow their headlights, rather than looking to see where the corner went. Massimo Larini went straight on flat out and was launched about 15m into the air. He wasn't the first to do so, but almost the last.
Jim Clark loathed the place
Eau Rouge was a much tighter left into Raidillon on the old circuit and not seen as much of a challenge . Burnenville, Malmedy, Masta, Holowell, Stavelot and Quarry ( all long gone for racing but still driveable as public roads except the 2nd part of Malmedy), were the corners they feared
And let's not forget the bumps, pools for aquaplaning and the cross ply tyres.
The track is already much smoother than it was in the 1990s.
Part of the track is still stavelot is it not?
@@ciaranmcguinness8900 On the new track "Stavelot" is not in the same location as the old "Stavelot"... (which is 2 km away, closer to the village).
I believe they had to do a decent amount of braking on entry and it wasn't taken any faster than in 3rd gear.
@@ciaranmcguinness8900 yes there's still a corner named Stavelot on today's track, that's where the downhill ends and before they reach the flatout section that leads into Blanchimot.
I kinda want to see a 15 minute documentary of something like this. Showing modern drivers go around looking at the old track, mixed in with footage of racing on it
Im working on something along those lines, thats all i can say 😉
@@Supersonic_racing can’t wait to see it
I've driven most of the old Spa circuit that's on present day public roads, and what's very obvious is that at ordinary road legal speeds, it is very difficult to actually identify where the significant bends are. They are so open and sweeping, and it's just a normal rural road with houses, trees and signposts. I had to try and imagine what it would be like at 3-4 times the speed that I was toddling round in my Honda hatchback.
Same goes for the Mulsanne Straight at Le Mans; if you didn't know any better, you'd wonder what the fuss is about. Racing speeds make all the difference!
Honda hatchback: *under steer is my number one priority!*
In 1986 I went with Jackie Stewart to the spot at Spa where he’d had his big crash 20 years earlier.
He said the wire wasn’t to keep cars in, but to keep cows out . . .
F1 today: We require every team to build a state-of-the-art survival cell that can take over 100gs of force and line run off with hi-tech barriers that absorb an insane amount of force to keep the drivers as safe as possible.
F1 then: 0i m8 heres a gas can with wheels with a v8 strapped to your back go and send it around this Belgian road just make sure if you crash to avoid the houses. You'll want to land in a field when you fly out of your car.
You mean into a field with barb wire fences that will cut your head off? ;-)
Modern F1 drivers: "Theres 3m of unsecured concrete in this track! This is outrageously dangerous and the FIA need to do something about this!"
60s F1 drivers: "Yeah my teammate has just been decapitated in the last race, I'll still keep going on"
@@R9naldo or be a motorcyclist - Isle of Man is no different today and you have no crash cell only two wheels - but you do have good medical services and helicopters in communication
For anyone who played Grand Prix Legends back in the day this corner/chicane was a challenge for sure. Anyone playing historic Spa in whatever sim will be aware that this corner/chicane deserves the utmost respect.
truly a terrifying corner, considering that they had to nail it or their run into the 2nd masta straight would be ruined.
I love that you can drive that old circuit on Project Cars 2/Assetto Corsa etc
Back in the days of beautiful cars, romantic tracks, incredible drivers, great competition and overall majestic racing. Sadly F1 is no longer capable of capturing those moments.
JIM CLARK - By far the greatest driver ever - no doubt. He is and was the Best of the Best. No other driver in history until today was so superior as Clark.
This man is the Olymp of driving - the Michelangelo of racing - a dynamic art at the highest level. So smooth, so precise, so fast....simply out of this world. One, who won 4 consecutive times in Spa - 1963 by 5 minutes (!) in monsoon rain...One, who takes back a complete lap (!) in Monza and back into the lead... One, who took pole on the original 22,8 km Nürburgring track by 9 (!) seconds and more....One who won Indy by 2 whole (!) laps...For eternity and by lightyears unmatched in the sport. That`s just four examples of his mesmeric unique genius...
Latifi clears Mid Clark
Hey look, everyone knows about Jim Clark already.
If you wanted to mention anything further about his tenure here , you should have mentioned that he hated this circuit and yet won on it four consecutive years.
Not to mention he was brilliantly fast during the start of the 1962 race. He had Gilles Villeneuve speed when he launched off the grid that day.
That Jimmy hated Spa is already known too, so what ??? Believe me, he was always - even - faster than Gilles, but combinded with unmatched smoothness and precision...by the way: I admire Gilles too@@maxmulsanne7054
I wonder what the person in the house thought about all this. Must have been a bit unnerving.
At the same time, one of the best positions to watch the race, for free.
Lol had the best seat in the house though!
@@m-h1269 Untill there is a ferrari in your living room
@@guenthersteiner9252 Well, atleast you get to see all the detail up close.
@@guenthersteiner9252 I’d love to have a Ferrari in my living room, what do you mean? But without a hole in my wall ofcourse
The video seems to be confused between Malmedy (shown first) and Masta. The real hazard at Masta was the roadside building right at the exit. Even takes commitment in a simulator. My favourite historic track. No need for penalties for exceeding the track limits, they were built in.
No confusion, it was part of the introduction, a tease before the actual corner itself 😉
Shadow Realm was actually Aunt Molly's kitchen.
That thumbnail of Jo Bonnier's private Cooper-Maserati is legend. In fact it's still sitting there today being used as a mailbox by the farmer who lives there.
Anyways....
Spa 1966:
1) John Surtees' greatest victory.
2) ... before he told Enzo to stuff it ...
3) ... before Enzo finally listened to JS, and fired that load of tripe, Eugenio Dragoni (the problem child).
Yes I remember this corner from GPL. One of those ones where you can go through at a certain speed if you get it right but slightly wrong, forget about it......Of course in a game, you just reset or finish the race, these guys didn't have that option.
Im always jealous of people who had GPL, in all these years ive never played it
@@Supersonic_racing It was hard man...
You would push and push and push, finally get a clean lap and find you're still way off the pace.
Took a LOT of time and effort to get competitive at that one.
Great game though.
@@Supersonic_racing Then play it for yourself GPLaps made an installer video, you don't even need the game - ruclips.net/video/z0Mib_q57ss/видео.html
As an old GPLer, was obsessed with it for a few years, but I always hated Spa. Even though it's a sim you can see that the track was quite satanic in design. I've probably aced Masta twice in a million attempts. Died a lot there.
This track is also in project cars 2
We still have something like this, it’s called the TT.
"to finish first, first you must finish", in the scary circuit, one mistake, all done...
Idk if I'm being a baby about it, but I was kinda mad how unsafe f1 used to be and how we lost so many great drivers back then. But that's why the FIA makes safety their priority
You are not being a baby
It’s part of the evolution of the sport, F1 has gone a long way when it comes to safety but even today is still a very dangerous sport
F1 originally was made up of former fighter pilots from WW2. All they knew were danger. It was of the time.
@@bowlock9901 Most drivers who drove in F1 in 1950 were racing drivers before the war too. With the same death rates. I checked the Wikipedia page for several of them and I didn't find a single one who had ever driven a fighter.
The drivers knew the danger but the fame and fortune were too good to pass up. All forms of racing were dangerous then. It's a bit of a blessing that the cars were much slower though. Imagine going at the speeds of today's cars with virtually no safety devices and brakes that barely slowed the car down. You'd have one death per race.
Ah, yes when a vertical brick wall stood next to and perpendicular to the racing line. What could possibly go wrong?
early prototype for sausage kurbs
Isle of Man TT bike raiders deal with dozens of turns like these each year,. that is really mad.
Mega, mega props to those who had the courage to engage in motor racing back then. It was literally like commiting to an uncertain suicide attempt.
I think a lot of war vets were intrigued just to get some of the adrenaline back; someone correct me if I'm wrong though
Even the 500cc GP bikes looked quick through Masta. Eau Rouge was a lot tighter back in the day. Chris Amon called Burnenville the 'unbeleivable' corner because it was taken so fast, about 190mph. And if you actually drive around the old circuit it really is unbeleivable to think if those speeds around there.
They were going very quick through there. Barry Sheene set the lap record there at 137mph in 1977!
Eau rouge doesn’t exist anymore since 1939
This actually got my heart rate up.
Cool 😎 Thanks
F1 in my youth was a blood sport. I dropped out with the death of my national hero Gilles Villeneuve and didn't come back for many years. All credit to Sir Jackie Stewart for his devotion to driver safety. Many live because of his courage and initiative. The old-time carnage would have killed the sport in the modern world.
Can’t imagine what it was like to be a fan of a sport that took so many souls at the same time! Just out of curiosity, when dif you come back?
Quit following after Clark’s death. Still love the endurance racing, though
You poor Canadians. I had to stop choosing favorite drivers after Greg Moores death. That sucked...
Great video 👍
After this video I respect Lewis more, because he knows such old corner. I didn't think that he's such an old school.
I could never get masta flat out in the PC game grand prix legends.
The way folks like Greger Huttu took that corner is indeed the stuff of legends.
Legend has it that in the early 50s, there was a villager whose doorstep led directly onto the second apex of the Masta kink. He would routinely berate and abuse the back markers and slower drivers, telling them that their lack of speed correlated closely to their lack of courage. He was soon well known within the paddock, drivers called him the Masta Baiter.
How did they ever get to hear whatever he yelled at them?
How did the drivers even notice him more than a fraction of a second as they passed Masta at insane speeds?
That legend is most likely urban hearsay which became a myth.
there is absolutely no way😂😂 i refuse to believe this was real until i see interviews about it. comedy gold
I believe it. I had an uncle like that once. Only he would step out on the street berating people with racial slurs. Good ol' Californian that he was.
They weren't doing MPH, they were doing KPH. Belgium does not use imperial measurements.
That’s not how physics work
Trying to go through the Masta kink full throttle in Grand Prix Legends? What a blast! I think I managed to once or twice.
Awesome when a game manages to give you this amount of challenge and excitement 🙌🏻
@@Supersonic_racing Definitely! The best gift for me was learning the tracks. Then later on the 3rd party tracks showed me so many circuits and races I never knew about! Between Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2 and iRacing I get plenty of track knowledge these days.
It's a corner that baits competitive men into meeting their demise. You can always back off and make it easily but if you want to win you have to keep the throttle pinned and thread the needle at 180mph knowing that if you miss you mark or the car doesn't do as asked then you'll be going home in a pine box.
I can barely imagine the stones it took to race back then, and I raced Motocross locally!!!!
Amazing
im sorry but that launch at 0:57
HOLY FRICK
I wouldn’t even say 2nd. More like 3rd least scary corner. Burnenville was the scariest corner, definitely. Masta Kink, Malmedy, Holowell/Stavelot, the whole kinked section between Eau Rouge and Les Combes (that’s nowadays a straight) and the whole run up to Blanchimont and Clubhouse were scarier.
man that's dangerous, i'm going home to cry to my mama
Shit, that's scary! 😅
Woo-hoo a new F1 channel!
New for me anyway, I always enjoy finding, and subbing to, a new channel that's got good videos like this in seems to have.
Welcome and enjoy the ride!
Car hanging over the edge is Jo Bonnier's cooper-maserati on Burnenville sweeping right hander.
The good old days, lol. I remember it well.
Real racing. Never to be seen again.
Masta kink was most dangerous then eau rouge this was fantastic track 14 km. I love old spa
Actually, Eau Rouge was only the 5th most dangerous corner, after Burnenville, Masta, Blanchimont and the old Les Combes...
That intro tune just made me jumpscare. Must be F1 season soon.
1:50 those guys just casually walking of the track/next to the track. :D
There were medical facilities albeit very basic, nice use of the film Grand Prix footage. I believe Masta was the favoured vantage point for Jenks.
The old guys didn't even rate Eau rouge, the MASTA Kink was the toughest corner. Ask Jackie Stewart, He will tell you.
Exactly. He said it many times.
Would had been Nice to actually seen a full Comparison of the changes made on different tracks. I saw one video about Monaco were you visably saw the changes from the beggining to how it looks like now
Jimmy broadbent made couple videos about the old circuits in VR Racing sim, with the old cars. He was already scared, even though it was still a game...
Loved this; spoiled only by the trailers plastered over the screen towards the end. I hate it when YT does this 🤨
I cleaned it up a bit! Thanks for the tip, I didn’t realise it was so in the way!
@@Supersonic_racing Hey thanks! My comment wasn't a dig at you, I think it's a YT thing. Great video - I didn't know about Masta.
The run off area was a house.
Most of this video is from the movie with James Garner and Brian Bedford
Back in the day there also was the Buonfornello straight at the Targa Florio, I do think that those curves are far more dangerous than Masta. Drivers back in the days must have been like 10 seconds of the pace purely due to the weight of their balls.
Imagine 24h of spa using the 1950 lay out
I can see how that would pucker your butt. At least they were not getting airborne like they did at the Nurburgring
This filming is incredible! Is there a full length?!
Pretty sure most of the old footage is from the old racing film ‘Grand Prix’ which I believe is on Amazon Prime, not sure about other streaming services
Buy the DVD, "Grand Prix" is a wonderful film.
@@Andrew-vx2ls oh..is that the James Garner film? I’ve got that, but this clip seems different!
@@markfreestone9313 Yes, it is.
@@Andrew-vx2ls Yaps agree. The film
is masterpiece
Masta Kink, a left-right kink in the middle of a flat out straightaway. Enter too fast and you might lose your life, enter too slow then you lose speed and time on the straight up until stavelot.
Lewis had so much work done to his face since then
The Old Spa was The grestest circuit in history, more dangerous than The Old Nurburing!
Imagine you slammed your car at full speed into someone's house
Masta of Disasta
😂
Jackie Stewart mentioned Masta Kink as the most challenging corner all around the world. I don't think it's written in his autobiography, maybe in an interview with him🤔
Id love to see that clip if you can find it again!
@@Supersonic_racing I will try. Two years ago I wrote an article about Jackie based on his autobiography Winning is not enough. In that article, I mentioned something like this:
Masta Kink was definitely the most challenging corner in the world. Everybody thinks Eau Rouge ...but Masta Kink is the Corner.
I know that it comes from an interview I found on RUclips back then.
EDIT: I found it. It starts around 18:55
ruclips.net/video/ISOEXQG5vOo/видео.html
@@Supersonic_racingnot 100% but I think it was in his Beyond the Grid podcast episode with Tom Clarkson
A time in history, when everyone had to use left foot and right arm to shift gears. AND RACE STILL
When you imagine the speeds Rodriguez used to get up to, every yard of the circuit you must be praying for nothing to break.
I think they should change the name of No Name Corner to Masta Corner
hamiltons forgetting f1 prior to the front wing being invented meant that the tracks didnt have sharp bends and instead were long flowing and high speed and far more dangerous. cars didnt have the extra downforce as today of which when the front wing was invented suddenly cars could cope with sharp bends and the drivers entailed more manouvers in terms of cornering ability. prior to this it was more of a marathon to control essentially a box on wheels going around 180/190 down mile straights with slight bends which could catapult you off of the track and into someone brick wall or off of a mountain. those drivers had real balls.
This track will be on automobilista 2 someday!!
When F1 was fun.
Full video ?
movie: grand prix (1966)
A shame that it could be the last year F1 at Spa.
On cross-ply tyres...
Its even crazier that the fia boycotted the 2021 Belgium gp cuz it was too wet. But comparing this to drivers who drove on the dangerous 14 mile layout in the fog and rain in aluminum matchboxes with no safety equipment without even considering boycotting makes the 2021 spa grand prix look pitiful
Historic F1 has a very dangerous kink. TT Trophy: "Hold my beer."
Eau rouge is the braking area below..le radillon is THE corner and Blanchimont = THE big balls corner 😉
Do you know shit is real when the run-off area is somebody’s house.
I hope they leave Eau Rouge alone. Tired of the FIA watering down tracks. Between that and Tilke there's barely any interesting tracks left on the F1 schedule.
Tilke is the worst thing to happen to the sport. Him and safety queens killed it. I'm all for making the cars safer, and the tracks as well with improved run offs, better walls etc., but don't neuter the tracks and kill the old configs.
@@CamelSmokes23 Eau Rouge stays the same, just the runoff get's bigger i think
@@CamelSmokes23 eeh, tilke can make a good track. Look at insambul park for exapmle. But you design for your client, not for yourself
@@foxy126pl6 Exactly. I get tired of this Tilke shit. Its not him that's the problem. Its the FIA and F1 demanding such steril tracks.
@@TheNewTom Eau Rouge and Raidillon is mucb sharper now
Imagine buying some groceries at the local corner shop and suddenly a formula 1 car comes smashing into the wall
If u crash on old spa you end up in someone's bedroom
The only thing more scary then this, is if ro racing was real.
Malmedy and Masta kink....yeah that's about right
nice trailer, when does the movie comes out?
not even 19000 RPM and the old cars still sounded better
Is this the track that hs most no of fatalities
I'd love to see this again without the on screen printing (and previews of next videos at the end) getting in the way...
Indeed! The text is a bit too distracting, especially as it's right in the middle of the viewing area.
Latifi : Where barriers
Wasn't Blanchemot the most dangerous?
305kph Through masta kink - really? Then After all these years I have discovered a fault in the good racing sim gpl. Its impossible to go through much faster than 280kph. 305 would no doubt end up in flames
Id love to see you try!
Grand Prix Legends! The best F1 simulator ever made. Grandfather of iRacing BTW
Now that was racing! I remember it well. F1 today is a walk in the park.
It's Raidillon actually
shush
There’s always one. Actually.
i dont think Lewis has the balls to race the old spa track. to dangerous man....
If you think not being suicidal means having no balls…
Scene di corsa tratte da GRAND PRIX di John Frankenheimer
and now we are losing spa in favor of .... (name any commercial circuits)
Are the racing scenes out of a movie ? Looks crazy but cant be original footage ?
Yes, it absolutely is original. It’s from John Frankenheimer’s 1966 movie, “Grand Prix”. The camera was mounted on an old and uncompetitive McLaren driven by former World Champion Phil Hill.
Grand prix, there will never be a racing film like it. Forget about drive to survive
What did Hamilton say, I couldn't hear it over the volume of the music at the end of his part
who cares what he has to say
@Orange This. The F1 community has turned into an absolute joke in recent years. They're currently no different than the kpop fandom
@@dr2stroke611 You clearly cared enough to comment and cry 🤣
Too many images and scenes without explanation and without context. The only joy was to see James Garner . . . .
I think you mean eau rouge and radillon
before eau rouge….
there was un bleu
Mazda? No Masta
its radion actually