SEAL Team 6 & the Linda Norgrove operation | Op Anstruther | October 2010

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  • In October 2010, an American Task Group, centred around SEAL Team 6, launched a daring operation in Eastern Afghanistan to rescue British aid worker Linda Norgrove. Codenamed Operation Anstruther, this is the story of that raid.
    This video is dedicated to the memory of Linda Norgrove.
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  • @MikSF123
    @MikSF123 Год назад +503

    (Extract from Relentless Strike by Sean Naylor talks about this operation)
    The operator who threw the grenade, his shooting buddy, and the team leader who covered it up were moved out of the unit. For the other two operators, this expulsion was temporary. Each returned to Team 6. For the operator who threw the grenade, the exclusion was permanent. “To this day, the guy that threw the grenade, he’s a wreck,” said a senior Team 6 operator several years later. Team 6’s reputation had also suffered. “This is a big failure for the command,” said the senior operator. Within seven months, however, the unit would have a chance to redeem itself.
    The operator who had thrown the grenade was on his first Team 6 deployment, and had previously been warned about throwing grenades on missions, said a senior Team 6 operator. “They counseled him but didn’t do anything,” he said. “They probably should have moved him on.” But there were other factors behind the mission failure. Silver Squadron did no hostage rescue training during its pre-deployment workup, the senior Team 6 operator said. Instead, the team focused on “combat clearance” techniques. “[In] hostage rescue clearance, there is no scenario-no scenario-where you grab a grenade,” the operator said. The same was not true for combat clearance. “So you’ve got a brand-new guy that made it through selection, gets to the squadron, and doesn’t do any hostage rescue training beforehand. So he goes on deployment and he performs as trained.” The senior Team 6 operator called into question the decision to use Silver Squadron for the mission: “If you haven’t trained to it in six months, you don’t do it.”

    • @KellinKingdom
      @KellinKingdom Год назад +96

      This helps add some good context. Thanks.

    • @robertsears8323
      @robertsears8323 Год назад

      I wish the evil P0S that tossed the grenade gets a very slow painful death.
      He should have been sent to jail for life this is why ALL navy seals are worthless jokes and needs to be disbanded as there are just evil clownes

    • @whoareyou1034
      @whoareyou1034 Год назад +56

      Dang, at first I thought it was negligence that caused it, especially because they covered it up, but with this added context I see it was ignorance. The poor guy did not know and worked with what he did. I feel sympathy for him and for everyone involved.

    • @TrickiVicBB71
      @TrickiVicBB71 Год назад +9

      Thank u for the extra info

    • @katamariroller2837
      @katamariroller2837 Год назад +37

      @@whoareyou1034 His leaders were negligent in preparing him for the mission, and their leadership qualities were lacking in not inspiring the men to say the truth about the incident. Par for the course with Navy SEALs.

  • @stephanarizona9094
    @stephanarizona9094 11 месяцев назад +40

    I spent many years in Afghanistan at varies bases and FOB's and always blew my mind the NGO's and Aid Workers who would travel around unprotected, hundreds if not more where kidnapped, assaulted, and sometimes murdered. One small FOB I was at, in the middle of a real bad guy area, a woman showed up in the middle of night saying she had been kidnapped and raped, but was able to sneak away in the middle of the night and some how stumbled across our FOB. Everyone at the FOB was speechless!

  • @TheCameraManReviews
    @TheCameraManReviews Год назад +64

    Dam, that is a tough one. 😞

  • @dimitriofthedon3917
    @dimitriofthedon3917 Год назад +7

    Thank you yanks, you did your best and risked it all to try and get one of our own back home, much respect

  • @klk1900
    @klk1900 11 месяцев назад +24

    Just for history all hostage rescue teams stopped carrying Grenades on HR ops. That is until 2015-2016 when our guys were incapable of performing a rescue in a hotel. Being the enemy had grenade. So the rule was changed back.

    • @dyfrigshandy
      @dyfrigshandy 10 месяцев назад

      Why not flashbank instead?

    • @dominus6224
      @dominus6224 6 месяцев назад

      @@dyfrigshandyit’s a “flashbang”. In an open area you prefer a stun grenade over a flashbang as well. Why he didn’t use them? No one knows

  • @robert48044
    @robert48044 Год назад +95

    It's good to hear when it doesn't go right. Stuff happens in battle and way to often we only hear about the successful missions. I'm not happy it went bad just it's good to acknowledge failure.

    • @robertsears8323
      @robertsears8323 Год назад +2

      I just hope the evil p0s that murdered that innocent lady meats a very slow painful end. What a evil monster he is.

    • @firasajoury7813
      @firasajoury7813 Год назад

      @@robertsears8323 same goes for every American serviceman who helped in bombing civilians and destroying the country

    • @FBI.Counter-Terrorism.Unit.
      @FBI.Counter-Terrorism.Unit. Год назад +8

      ​@Robert Sears blame his leadership for taking him on the mission, they knew he wasn't prepared and wasn't well trained for HR, he was working with what he had.
      And honestly i couldn't say I've would have done any different, they teach you to work with what you got and he did just that, just this time it cost someone's life.

    • @robertsears8323
      @robertsears8323 Год назад +1

      @@FBI.Counter-Terrorism.Unit. It don't matter he murdered a civilian he needs to be charged. Why they even had those things on a rescue mission show how worthless the seals are. They are all Hollywood jokes.

    • @FBI.Counter-Terrorism.Unit.
      @FBI.Counter-Terrorism.Unit. Год назад +4

      @Robert Sears he wasn't charged because he was in fear for his and his teams life, he didn't know she was in there so it's not murderer, and the reason why they have grenades on hostage rescue is because of the same situation, if you go in and someone is aiming a ak at the door you and everyone else who steps in are going to die.

  • @michaelamos4651
    @michaelamos4651 Год назад +8

    Thankyou for these very informative videos. This incident was so sad

  • @PATRIOTS4272
    @PATRIOTS4272 Год назад +2

    I will always appreciate these videos and how they keep it unbiased. Also the low playing somber music is unmatched. Rip

  • @whiskeyactual.
    @whiskeyactual. Год назад +5

    Glad to be here early finally. Love this channel!

  • @monkeywithacamera6491
    @monkeywithacamera6491 Год назад +2

    I’ve been waiting for you to do this one.

  • @stuartkcalvin
    @stuartkcalvin Год назад

    Thanks mate, subscriber, keep 'em coming.

  • @tompalmer4161
    @tompalmer4161 2 месяца назад

    I really enjoy your presentations Very good very professional. Thank you very much 👍

  • @mauryballstein8863
    @mauryballstein8863 11 месяцев назад +1

    Man what a terrible situation. So sad.

  • @corylash9960
    @corylash9960 Год назад +2

    damn thats a tough way to hear this story ending the old saying comes to mind " war is ugly " tragic for sure rip to her

  • @MikSF123
    @MikSF123 Год назад +30

    Here's some info from the inquest:
    One of the SEAL operators told the inquest how his mind was racing at ”a million miles a minute”
    the team came under intense fire as they landed and Linda was killed just 59 seconds later, the inquest in Trowbridge, Wilts., heard.
    Yesterday the soldier who threw grenade - known only as Team Member Five (TM5) - told how he was ”freaked out” when his weapon jammed as he tried to return fire.
    They believed Linda was being held in an adjacent building but she was actually being hidden in a building just feet from where they landed.
    TM5 and a colleague TM3 made their way along a terrace as other colleagues followed behind.
    But they then came under a volley of gunfire from the building where Linda was being held, which TM5 described as a ”fatal funnel” which left them ”exposed” to the enemy fire and he feared for the lives of himself and his team mates.
    The ”zero visibility” conditions meant none of the soldiers spotted Linda, who was dressed in loose dark clothes, being dragged out of the building by a burly insurgent who was joined by two other armed kidnappers.
    Miss Norgrove, who was lying wounded at the bottom of the steps after being shot in the leg by a ricochet from TM1’s rifle, was killed when the grenade landed next to her.
    Fearing for his life, TM5 launched a grenade at the house at the same time as his team leader on the roof fired shots at the insurgent, who was lying on the floor.
    He (TM5) had been warned about ”being careful” regarding his use of grenades during a previous operation in Afghanistan.

    • @PersonalityMalfunction
      @PersonalityMalfunction Год назад +4

      Thanks for the background.

    • @nick1635
      @nick1635 Год назад +9

      The operator lied and cannot be trusted as accurate and honest.

    • @PersonalityMalfunction
      @PersonalityMalfunction Год назад +11

      @@nick1635 It's surprising he was allowed in DEVGRU in the first place. Maybe the accelerated recruiting to those type of units is having an impact on the quality of their professionalism. Then again, Murphy's Law is unavoidable on a long enough timeline.

  • @PersonalityMalfunction
    @PersonalityMalfunction Год назад +42

    Oh that sucks so bad for everyone involved. I can understand the use of the grenade, but it would be hard to forgive not disclosing it in the AAR.

    • @robertsears8323
      @robertsears8323 Год назад

      The only reason that evil P0S used that grenade was only because he is pure evil
      He should have been arrested and sent to jail for life

    • @PersonalityMalfunction
      @PersonalityMalfunction Год назад +25

      @@robertsears8323 And what pronoun should we use when referring to you?

    • @archstanton6102
      @archstanton6102 Год назад

      ​@@PersonalityMalfunctionThis idiot loves to troll the channel. Just ignore him.

    • @Jump-n-smash
      @Jump-n-smash Год назад +1

      @@PersonalityMalfunction black/white

    • @adamatch9624
      @adamatch9624 Год назад +9

      No using the grenade was wrong, the seals are trained to never use grenades on a hostage rescue unfortunately the guys who threw it wasn’t trained in hostage rescue but in combat clearance were grenades are used, command failed to pick the right guys.

  • @giorginakashidze8797
    @giorginakashidze8797 Год назад

    I wa swaiting for ur video

  • @crustyroach6921
    @crustyroach6921 Год назад +11

    Man being stuck in the korengal valley is not a good place to be. The valley seems to made for fighting!

  • @redalertsteve_
    @redalertsteve_ Год назад +8

    This one hurt. May linda Rest In Peace

    • @Th3Mavr1ck
      @Th3Mavr1ck Год назад

      her blood fed the mountain flowers, just so a goat can eat it

  • @seanhastings4432
    @seanhastings4432 Год назад +27

    I can't help but feel this tragedy is kinda emblematic of the US-led war in Afghanistan. The best-trained, best-equipped troops in the world fly in by night to execute a near-impossible task... And the whole thing gets squandered when one guy makes a mistake. Whether it was an operator or a general, that happened *often* in Afghanistan.

  • @SimonAmazingClarke
    @SimonAmazingClarke Год назад +32

    All of these events happened in seconds, or fractions of a second. It doesn't matter how well trained you are, when bullets are coming towards you, your mind operates differently. No way could they gave known that Linda was in that trench. Bless her family and those sent to rescue her.

  • @thehum1000
    @thehum1000 Год назад

    They make great movies.

  • @louiswolff3251
    @louiswolff3251 Год назад +10

    It’s a tragedy that unfortunately is sometimes unavoidable due to any number of reasons, I’m sure the Seals involved felt like shit about it but it’s not the first nor the last time a hostage rescue goes sideways, may she RIP, condolences to her family and friends 🙏🏻💙

  • @akaniichebadu5886
    @akaniichebadu5886 Год назад

    What a sad story 😢.

  • @MK-dq3vu
    @MK-dq3vu Год назад +7

    War is hell, in the fog of war mistakes will be made, no one is immune to errors, even after a failure like this these men stand at the tip of the spear ready to do violence and risk their lives to stand between good and evil. I see many nobodys talking crap about the SEAL teams, some people including me who had the honor of not only knowing a few of them but have also trained with them i will say that they are incredible warriors and deserve each amount of respect that they get.

    • @mrosefield309
      @mrosefield309 Год назад

      Bullshit. Her location was fog of war but this was a hostage rescue no one on that team should have even had offense grenades like that in their kit for that. Second, the team as a whole wasn’t fresh on hostage rescue and the guy in question never trained hostage rescue after Green Team. This was a Delta job and much like many other SEAL failures(red wing) this was the result of shoving primarily assaulters into a niche they don’t belong and are ill trained for.

  • @IIHydraII
    @IIHydraII Год назад

    Damn that is extremely unlucky, RIP.

  • @josephbrandt6778
    @josephbrandt6778 Год назад +1

    I'm sure everyone in the team will sadly live with the loss for the rest of there lives...we don't make mistakes like this but who was to know? But it doesn't make it any easier to live with....😔

  • @ethan20559
    @ethan20559 Год назад

    im a little confused, the ac130 was providing overhead support, probably through thermals, did they not spot more than one potential combatant, and isn't this the whole point of proper ISR?

  • @emmanuelawosusi2365
    @emmanuelawosusi2365 Год назад

    Nice

  • @aryalandax8797
    @aryalandax8797 Год назад +5

    The fog of war..so tragic for her loss😢😢

    • @SamBrickell
      @SamBrickell Год назад +2

      She should not have been in Afghanistan.

    • @tudyk21
      @tudyk21 Год назад +3

      Mooj using a woman as a human shield. Cowardly.

    • @Th3Mavr1ck
      @Th3Mavr1ck Год назад

      @@tudyk21 shoulda stayed home with het crumpets and tea LOL

    • @goodshipkaraboudjan
      @goodshipkaraboudjan Год назад +1

      @@Th3Mavr1ck She had more balls than you to go out and try to make a change in the world.

  • @keithjackson4985
    @keithjackson4985 Год назад +7

    Terrible occurrence during this mission. You can't fault anyone for this. May She RIP, May She Rise in Glory. To the ones who went to get her, respect.

    • @patrickcanter6136
      @patrickcanter6136 Год назад +2

      You can absolutely fault someone for this, what the hell are you talking about?

    • @keithjackson4985
      @keithjackson4985 11 месяцев назад +3

      @patrickcanter6136 You on the ground with them? You perfect enough to pull this off without a hitch? No one ever understands how challenging it is to pull these kinds of undertakings off!

    • @gawge_9609
      @gawge_9609 6 месяцев назад

      @@patrickcanter6136 dumb ass response

    • @callumg_0147
      @callumg_0147 2 месяца назад

      @@patrickcanter6136 Another armchair operator.

  • @THEfamouspolka
    @THEfamouspolka Год назад

    Something, something... integrity....

  • @johnkamot3237
    @johnkamot3237 Год назад +3

    Feel bad for the CCT who controlled the drone to get intel on her location and was with DEV on the op itself. Those guys never get any credit😆

  • @lesflynn4455
    @lesflynn4455 Год назад +7

    Jesus Christ, those guys made things so much worse by lying to their command in the first place. If they had just told the truth, most likely nobody would have been disciplined very harshly. Since they bullshitted however, every senior member of the squadron doing the assault would have been subjected to the harshest of debriefs, and threats of all sorts. Stupid decision.

  • @ag4832
    @ag4832 Год назад

    I can only imagine how much the SAS was pissed about this.

  • @itsmeagain49
    @itsmeagain49 Год назад +1

    At least they tryed respect too them

  • @stuartkcalvin
    @stuartkcalvin Год назад

    RIP Linda

  • @frankdonaldsasa6060
    @frankdonaldsasa6060 11 месяцев назад

    Thats war anything can happen unintentionally. Those brave men gave their live and those very tiny little happenings are part of it. Those bosses just sit in office doing nothing but blaming those who out fighting

  • @karloyu3484
    @karloyu3484 11 месяцев назад

    We owned up the mistakes. 💙

  • @rileyernst9086
    @rileyernst9086 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah I think 'might have accidentally blowing the hostage up.' really falls under mandatory reporting when it comes to after action reports and there really is no two ways about that.

  • @LT4me
    @LT4me Год назад +2

    Delta Force is the better option for hostage rescues.
    Seals are great at what they do.

    • @BullGator-kd6ge
      @BullGator-kd6ge Год назад +1

      They all train for hostage rescue, how can one be a better option?

  • @lorenzorosado8288
    @lorenzorosado8288 Год назад +2

    MAY GOD BLESS HER FAMILY AND MAY GOD BLESS HER SOUL TO RIP FOREVER AND EVERMORE🙏❤️

  • @kcmiles9832
    @kcmiles9832 Год назад

    Poor Linda.

  • @marymartini2839
    @marymartini2839 Год назад

    I've seen her in revisions green to lives

  • @millny123
    @millny123 Год назад +4

    It's nice to read all the comments written by person who have been in combat and hostage rescues situations, when we all know that is not true. Unless you have experienced what it is like under combat conditions and how u react to situations. Thanks to the US Military

  • @missm7526
    @missm7526 6 месяцев назад

    This is so sad 😞 Seal Teams are highly trained and risk their lives in these types of special operations, but they are still human and make mistakes.

  • @yelsew816
    @yelsew816 Год назад

    Oh, IIRC, this will end in tragedy.

    • @yelsew816
      @yelsew816 Год назад +6

      Oof, yeah, this was the OP I was recalling. The attempted cover up made the mistake so much worse. Late 2000s to early 2010s SOF was a bit of a hot mess. There were way too many missions, and not enough troops. The OPTEMPO burned out a lot of people. Recruiting standards and selection rates were changed. New squadrons, battalions, and platoons were added. Unfortunately, there were a lot of issues between the burn out and the inexperience. There were disciplinary issues across multiple missions. Definitely some class 2 fun.

  • @tompalmer4161
    @tompalmer4161 2 месяца назад

    Lads that's life, sometimes it works and sometimes it don't. Get up añd carry on and learn by it.

  • @flyoverkid55
    @flyoverkid55 Год назад +2

    Tragic to be sure. This only highlights the inherent risk in hostage rescue, the nature of those operations is that almost nothing will go unchanged the moment the enemy learns of your presence.
    RIP to Ms. Norgrove.

  • @karloyu3484
    @karloyu3484 11 месяцев назад

    ❤️

  • @motorcop505
    @motorcop505 Год назад +1

    Throwing the grenade was incompetence. Lying about it afterwards and claiming the terrorist had a bomb vest on was inexcusable. Everyone in that sailor’s chain of command should have been relieved from the unit as a minimum and the sailor who initially lied about it should have been discharged from the service and be glad he didn’t spend time at Ft Leavenworth making big rocks into little rocks. SEALs should try sticking to missions that involve actual water (remember when that was their thing? The “S” part?).

  • @tanny786
    @tanny786 9 месяцев назад +1

    the seal through a grenade were she was and killed her

  • @jacksonmarshallkramer5087
    @jacksonmarshallkramer5087 11 месяцев назад

    These aid workers in Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, etc., are absolutely insane. Their government should not allow any non-soldiers to deploy to these schitt holes.

  • @christianemeiners9224
    @christianemeiners9224 Год назад

    The fog of war 😔

    • @lorddaver5729
      @lorddaver5729 4 месяца назад

      You don't throw a grenade into the room where the hostage you are trying to rescue is being held. That is murderous incompetence.

    • @callumg_0147
      @callumg_0147 2 месяца назад

      @@lorddaver5729 He threw a grenade into a gully where an insurgent was firing on them. He didn't know Linda was there, did you even bother to watch the video?

    • @lorddaver5729
      @lorddaver5729 2 месяца назад

      He threw a grenade into an area where they knew she was in the vicinity. You don't use grenades when trying to rescue a hostage. You only use aimed shots. Standard procedure for British special forces. ​@@callumg_0147

  • @connera93
    @connera93 Год назад +1

    You don't take frags on a hostage rescue.

  • @KS-bq4rs
    @KS-bq4rs Год назад

    Brave US guys ..The guy who throw the grenade must feel so sick.

  • @schuletrip
    @schuletrip Год назад +1

    As much as it’s tragic I think it’s her altruism that brought about this tragedy. Do gooder!

  • @foxxy46213
    @foxxy46213 10 месяцев назад +1

    He basically did wat he was trained to do....they shud of gave a full after action report but they knew they fucked up an lied instead of owning it

  • @mitchconner2021
    @mitchconner2021 Год назад +2

    Yeah this is why you dont use grenades in a hostage mission.. Kinda what they get for sending SEALs instead of Delta.

  • @glennhynes5263
    @glennhynes5263 Год назад +1

    Those guys risked their lives, but why in the hell does the military, at all levels, feel the need to "cover up." Integrity violations only seem to matter when the military wants to nail someone.

  • @jamessmith-hq5mr
    @jamessmith-hq5mr 4 месяца назад

    Unfortunately, Team 6 has had integrity issues since its inception.

  • @kisstagals
    @kisstagals Год назад +2

    When bullet are flying towards you don't have time to assert whether single guy is shooting or they are holding someone you immediately retaliate that's human reflex.. it's just wrong time wrong place for Linda.. . RIP

  • @neymarsenna787
    @neymarsenna787 11 месяцев назад

    The SEAL killed with his grenade. SMFG 😤

  • @hemanR-one
    @hemanR-one Год назад +2

    SAS should have been deployed, no matter the logistics and cost. SAS is trained for hostage rescue

    • @TheLAGopher
      @TheLAGopher 7 месяцев назад

      So is DEVGRU. It's not really a cost issue. It's the UK didn't have the assets in Afghanistan to transport and support an SAS rescue force deployed
      hundreds of miles by air from the base of British military operations in the country. That means the only practical way to pull off such a mission
      is the British taking operational control of US assets such as the 160th SOAR and AFSOC for transport and CAS, and the 75th Ranger Regiment
      for a security element. No way would JSOC or US Central Command, allow UKSF to take operational control of American assets in a British led mission.
      Get a US bird shot down on an op ran by the British, and it would be the Queen apologizing to the President instead of the reverse as happened in real life.

  • @raixbox360
    @raixbox360 9 месяцев назад

    The classic American way!

  • @chowanlau2845
    @chowanlau2845 Год назад

    Vic ??!! Seal team is real!!!!

    • @lorddaver5729
      @lorddaver5729 4 месяца назад

      They killed Linda Norgrove...

  • @thunderbear0
    @thunderbear0 Год назад

    it was really a good idea to roam in a country that your country invaded and people there are active in war against you your country. also it was really a good idea not to negotiate a deal

  • @ex-navyspook
    @ex-navyspook 10 месяцев назад

    Extremely depressing result.

  • @lakeam6982
    @lakeam6982 Год назад

    This why you send the british

  • @kennymedic58
    @kennymedic58 Год назад +1

    Doesn’t surprise me that seals failed to tell the facts, seems like they have history of this.

  • @dereksmith5934
    @dereksmith5934 4 месяца назад

    Fly up to the front door and expect to rescue a hostage. OK then.

  • @empire-classfirenationbatt2691
    @empire-classfirenationbatt2691 Год назад +4

    Damn. That's tragic af. I feel so bad. The facts being withheld is so toxic and disgusting.

  • @MikSF123
    @MikSF123 Год назад +7

    Here's something else which we don't know it's true at all or not - "The Intercept, stated that Linda Norgrove, a 36-year-old Briton employed by global development company DAI, also “secretly worked with Britain’s MI6, according to four US military and intelligence sources”."

    • @PersonalityMalfunction
      @PersonalityMalfunction Год назад +19

      That's certainly a possibility but bear in mind that just about any civilian in a war zone will be approached by intelligence services for the tiniest details, like weather, how many civilians are in need of aid, protection or medical care, so that in itself is nothing unusual. I think it would be difficult to find a single aid worker you couldn't connect to an intelligence service in one capacity or another.

    • @alichahin
      @alichahin Год назад +1

      Most of the "Humanitarian " workers in conflict zones work with intelligence agencies.

  • @dsmonington
    @dsmonington Год назад +3

    Lot's of people in the comments blaming the woman. Like you do realize the entire goal of the US, UK, and others in the doomed/failed war in Afghanistan was to 'develop' and 'liberate' the country? That was literally the mission, and aid workers were a necessary part of that mission. To say the military belongs there but aid workers don't is incoherent unless you think the military should be involved in endless wars. If you want, blame the governments for fighting a pointless 20 year war of occupation with an impossible goal, that's fine. But don't blame the aid worker whose job is trying to achieve that impossible goal.

  • @jamieshields9521
    @jamieshields9521 Год назад +6

    Interesting you can watch vids of ex seals talk about the lessons of using hand grenade in hostage situation. It’s unfortunately but there are risk been involved as aid workers just as very skill SF operators.

    • @mrosefield309
      @mrosefield309 Год назад +2

      This is a pretty common sense thing that shouldn’t have needed to be learned. In a hostage rescue using any weapon that isn’t surgical is just stupid

    • @goodshipkaraboudjan
      @goodshipkaraboudjan Год назад +1

      It's just bizarre that he would, in no circumstances doing hostage rescue whether military or law enforcement would you ever, ever, ever consider throwing a grenade.

    • @calebchoo896
      @calebchoo896 Год назад

      Unless you know the location of your hostage not assuming she's not there. 😮 Hope they learn their lesson.

  • @rileyernst9086
    @rileyernst9086 10 месяцев назад +2

    The fact that they actually tried to cover it up by omission is a real kicker. I mean you could say that yeah, shit happens, they had no reason at all to consider that she'd be at the bottom of some random gully. But failing to report that you threw a grenade into the area where her body was discovered? And the whole team failing to report that one of it's members did throw a grenade into that gully? Yeah, that is symptomatic of a problematic culture brewing in the unit. You can't have soldiers deciding that command don't need to know what they're doing, even if it's by accident.

  • @crystallineentity
    @crystallineentity Год назад +7

    RIP Linda. But if some arshole is shooting at you from a ditch you chuck a grenade at them

    • @theHURRENATOR
      @theHURRENATOR Год назад +1

      Pretty standard procedure that you don’t throw grenades while doing a hostage rescue same does not apply if it was a kill or capture

    • @Metaphix
      @Metaphix Год назад +1

      @@theHURRENATOR Dang dude SEAL team 6 should hire you instead

  • @travelinman70
    @travelinman70 Год назад

    AKA Dev Group

  • @youtubeis...
    @youtubeis... Год назад +2

    Should have sent the SAS

  • @mrosefield309
    @mrosefield309 Год назад +6

    Who brings frags on a hostage rescue?

    • @goodshipkaraboudjan
      @goodshipkaraboudjan Год назад +2

      Mind boggling, it's just never done. I guess thats how the SEALS roll.

    • @navyseal1689
      @navyseal1689 Год назад +2

      Me

    • @joesgotya9930
      @joesgotya9930 Год назад +7

      @@goodshipkaraboudjan.. The biggest modern successful hostage rescue of the 21st century was conducted by Delta force and Kurdish CTG, saving over 70 hostages from ISIS in 2015, and they deployed multiple frags in that raid and had no issues, killing multiple ISIS fighters. Delta operator Thomas Payne even talks about using grenades while on top of a ISIS controlled building during the assault. No hostages killed.
      Then you have the Maili hotel terrorist attack where multiple hostages were taken and both Delta and French SF killed the terrorists with grenades while they were pinned down.. no hostages were killed.
      Maby? it’s possible you don’t know what you’re talking about ?

  • @PLegalrep
    @PLegalrep Год назад

    Next time use U.S. Army Special Forces (Green Berets or Delta). That is their forte'.

  • @SAILINGDIRTYBIRD
    @SAILINGDIRTYBIRD Год назад

    Tragic.....Sad....

  • @rowdyyates5345
    @rowdyyates5345 Год назад

    Disciplined for doing your job when odds were against you. Perhaps people in the world should be responsible for their own citizens. If you are gonna get off the porch u gotta face the consequences.

  • @carlosmontilla1804
    @carlosmontilla1804 12 дней назад

    There are way too many stories of DEVGRU operators fucking up, but never from Delta or the brits.

  • @F3PIZZA
    @F3PIZZA Год назад

    Damn. Linda was a badass!

  • @mlassz009
    @mlassz009 Год назад +3

    Its unfortunate, but high risk operations can result in less than desirable outcomes - Glad that the Seals were only disciplined.
    Here in Australia we tend to arrest and charge our Special Forces soldiers with murder, strip them of medals and allow civilian based groups to air our dirty laundry to the world

    • @tercel9710
      @tercel9710 Год назад

      This might be the most deranged comment I've seen all year lmfao.

  • @tanny786
    @tanny786 9 месяцев назад

    the seals lied they said she was killed by a suicide bomber

  • @rowdyyates5345
    @rowdyyates5345 Год назад +1

    Stuff happens. From a retired SPECOPS soldier I can tell you hostage rescue in places like A’Stan are not usually good on odds.

  • @JimGraham-jj8fv
    @JimGraham-jj8fv Год назад

    Politics getting in the way as there is no way the grenade was deliberately for her jeez.

  • @robertdeen8741
    @robertdeen8741 Год назад +3

    I wouldn’t fault the Seal. Someone who wasn’t there being shot at in a very stressful situation doesn’t have the right to pass judgment. Besides that, what were the odds that she’d be there instead of locked up in a room somewhere in the compound?
    Shit happens. I hope the Seal isn’t too hard on himself. He acted under fire and probably had no idea she’d be out in a gully.

    • @TheUrbanSpartacuz
      @TheUrbanSpartacuz 11 месяцев назад +2

      The action itself may not be reprimandable, as he was acting in self defense and was unaware the hostage was there even has some others have pointed out that throwing grenades is not advised in hostage rescue operations it could be forgiven, however the covering up of the incident is another story completely and had the senior officers not conducted proper due diligence in investigating the after action report the truth may have never been known. So while I wouldn't fault him entirely for the grenade throw and the accidental killing I would entirely fault him, and the others, for the attempt to conceal the facts.

    • @robertdeen8741
      @robertdeen8741 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheUrbanSpartacuz I concede you’re 100% right on the covering up issue.

  • @angloaust1575
    @angloaust1575 11 месяцев назад

    She was vunerable not having
    A military escort from uk forces but 3 afghans
    Putting herself in harms
    Way!

  • @jimbo250686
    @jimbo250686 Год назад +2

    It is tragic that this UK Aid worker lost her life, BUT they are warned not to go to Afghan ,they are told time and time again to stay away for fear of capture.Ofcourse they ignore all warnings,they go and get caught.Who is then tasked to save them? the SF lads, they have been put at risk because of individuals like this woman. Ok she paid the ultimate price BUT how many SF team members have been killed or wounded saving these do good aid workers.?

  • @extremelycreativeusername
    @extremelycreativeusername Год назад +9

    Grenades should not have been used in hostage rescue operations! Absolutely ridiculous

    • @goodshipkaraboudjan
      @goodshipkaraboudjan Год назад +1

      Any hostage situation the training always prioritises the preservation of a life. Chucking grenades around is just beyond stupid, undisciplined and (like you said) ridiculous.

    • @joesgotya9930
      @joesgotya9930 Год назад +3

      SEAL team 6 rescued Suellen Tennyson, an 83-year-old nun from Louisiana, was captured by "armed gunmen" on April 4 in Yalgo, Burkina Faso.
      October 31, 2020, SEAL team 6 rescued 27 year old Phillip Walton in Nigeria, killing 6 of the terrorists.
      2015, Delta Force and French SF saved 140 hostages in the Bamako Maili hotel attack in 2015 and killed the terrorists with grenades lol.
      Delta force then saved 70 hostages that same year from ISIS in Northern Iraq, also used grenades on that one.
      SEALs rescued Dr. Dillip Joseph in 2012 from the Taliban, with SEAL operator Nick Cheque being killed rushing the gunman to save the Dr.
      SEALs rescued Captain Richard Phillips from Somali Pirates in 2009
      SEALs rescued Jessica Buchanan and her male colleague in 2012 from Somali kidnappers.
      SEALs and JSOC assets saved UK citizen Hellen Johnson in 2012, the SAS not even able to unilaterally do the mission on their own lol.. The UK Media spun that up of course.
      2004, Delta force saved Italian and Polish hostages in Iraq.
      - Jessica Lynch 2003
      - Kurt Muse 1989
      - James Dozer 1982
      Sooooooo what hostage rescue record were you comparing to again? And to to your question about who brings grenades to a hostage rescue? The most capable and experienced SOF units in the world - CAG and SEAL team 6. That’s who 👍

  • @joesgotya9930
    @joesgotya9930 Год назад +5

    This operation was covered in the book Relentless Strike by Sean Naylor.. The 1st false claim that was 1st told in the UK media was that the SEALs just threw a random grenade into a room. That never happened. The intelligence on her location was flawed and during the firefight, ISR had not seen that a enemy fighter dragged her out of a near by structure and into some rocky cover. The 2nd false claim was that all the SEALs had grenades on them, the only operators on target that had HE-ordnance was the outer cordon security teams that were tasked with containment of the target area. The fighter holding Norgrove fired on one of these teams and that’s where the operator had a weapons jam of his belt fed SAW. The 3nd false claim was that the SEALs just out right lied about the aftermath, when in fact multiple fighters had S-Vests on and being this was a night time operation, it made the SSE and and AAR much more prolonged and dragged out.. The SEAL that threw that grenade was removed from the command and it’s said in Naylors book, that he’s an emotional wreck to this day. Not for being kicked out, but for killing Norgrove. Anyone who wants to talk to shit and claim the SAS could of done better should probably ask why they were not even considered in the 1st place lol

    • @joesgotya9930
      @joesgotya9930 Год назад +1

      @@dragonjarl.. What does Special Operations have to do with the Military? They’re tasked, funded, organized and trained completely different then anything in the broader military. The Rules of Engagement are not even the same.
      Sounds like you know completely fuck all?

    • @cbbees1468
      @cbbees1468 Год назад +5

      ​​@@dragonjarl When the British were the world's foremost superpower, they lost to the US twice. Then they proceeded to lose modern warships to a 3rd world country in 1982 in the Falklands. The reputation of the British military among its allies is woefully poor.

    • @Rogue66669
      @Rogue66669 Год назад +3

      ​@@cbbees1468 the UK had bigger battles to win when fighting the U.S like Napoleon and France. Hey at least the UK didn't lose that war to a 3rd world country unlike the U.S and their war with rice farmers in Vietnam.

    • @cbbees1468
      @cbbees1468 Год назад +2

      @@Rogue66669 The UK lost their war with the Indians and Israel before Israel was even re-established as a country. 🤣

    • @Rogue66669
      @Rogue66669 Год назад

      Didn't you watch the video you mong ? He literally says why no Brits weren't involved, but if they were it's a fact she wouldn't have died from a fucking grenade from one of her rescuers.
      Get your head out of American books and you'll realise your forces aren't all that.

  • @azovandy14.88
    @azovandy14.88 11 месяцев назад

    Never even brought frags on hostage rescue as it is SOP for all hostage situations to not (sometimes it’s more nuanced than a simple abstention) and this being DEVGRU someone really shit the bed and I’d bet it was leadership.

  • @jekkenburg5480
    @jekkenburg5480 Год назад +1

    That my friends is why you don't bring hand grenades to a hostage rescue.

  • @earljohnson2676
    @earljohnson2676 9 месяцев назад +1

    I fought in Afghanistan yea 2 deployments over there early 05 n 09 we also did Iraq in 06 and that was a scary one holy crap . Afghanistan is scary AF your not fighting dumb insurgents your fighting hardened war fighters that aren’t effected by the mountains etc they fly in those mountains with sandals absolutely amazing. They use excellent tactics shoot,move n communicate. They study your movements n plan accordingly toughest guys I ever came across . Don’t get me wrong the insurgents in Iraq weren’t no push over they adapted to our tactics and fought like hell in 06 . I’m saddened that this didn’t have a happy ending n my heart goes out to her family . Seeing the world from a military eye I’ll never the leave the states again . We’re not the most loved out there

  • @larryphillips4164
    @larryphillips4164 Год назад

    I kinda feel like it’s the eye in the skies objective to relay any and all information on the battle field to the operators. Didn’t the predator drone see 2 people running to the gulley and couldn’t it see that one might be a woman? Or maybe have her hands tied or anything that could represent her being a hostage…Uncle Sam can take pictures of my dick from space as I piss off of my back porch but somehow he can’t see 5,000 feet down with a night Vision telescope mounted on a predator drone? Governments are just a laughable idea…

  • @tombillard5264
    @tombillard5264 Год назад

    neutralized by an ac130, you mean turned into hamburger yikes

  • @ChunkyPuke4me
    @ChunkyPuke4me Год назад +20

    Ridiculous that an "Aid worker" can be so stupid as to go into a savage war area and an attempt to save them from their stupidity results in their death and the end of extremely difficult careers of those, who attempted to save them. At least the coroner was level headed.

    • @PersonalityMalfunction
      @PersonalityMalfunction Год назад

      It's pretty much an established fact that women can never be held responsible for whatever idiotic decisions they make. Or is that hate speech now?

    • @alonsocushing2263
      @alonsocushing2263 Год назад +7

      A well-intentioned but naive young lady. Tragic.

    • @williamromine5715
      @williamromine5715 Год назад +5

      The fact that she was a girl also may have been why she was kidnapped. It's a shame she had to learn doing aid work in a war zone is extremely dangerous. I feel sorry for the guys that went after her. More than just one life was destroyed that day because someone was where she shouldn't have been.

    • @imagle1416
      @imagle1416 Год назад

      She was most likely mi6 operative

    • @goodshipkaraboudjan
      @goodshipkaraboudjan Год назад

      @@imagle1416 Yeah MI6 love their agents getting deep into those NGOs in third world shit holes. Grow up mate.