Slaughter the strong is also another good one sided board clear. It says that each player can only have 4 power total in their creatures, and they have to sacrifice the rest.
Arcades doesnt neuter opponents creatures and you lose skulk and black tree. These creatures dont feature trample so swinging in with like 30 unblockable pretty amazing. This list didnt feel as focused on the strategy as some. Just kinda was big toughness fatties and missed important ones lime shield sphere. But where is like tireless tribe 20+ tough for 1 mana. With the lifegain why not use serra avatar. Loxodon lifechanter might only have 6 toughness but it does so much more than a 10 toughness with no abilities.
Sidar Kondo of Jumuraa + Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper partner-commanders is another take on this, with Doran in the 99. Edit: If you don't remember it's toughness-lifelink (Ikra) and evasion for power 2- defender synergy (Kondo).
Here's some other cards: sheltering Word (protection), Aegis of the Heavens, Belbe s Armor, (pumps), Foul Renewal (revival), Abzan Beastmaster, Fruit of the First Tree (draws), Magnigoth Treefolk (landwalk), plus more toughness - World Breaker, Deathless Angel, Dragonlord Dromoka, and Fendeep Summer
Doran the siege tower was actually the first commander deck I’ve ever built, and it’s nice seeing that we both included similar, and many of the same cards
Farbog Revenant would also be nice in this deck. Doran doesn't actually change your creature's power, so the skulk mechanic still applies to Farbog Revenant's 1 power. Attach slagwurm armor, dodge the blockers with skulk, and swing in for 9 damage with lifelink.
This is definitely my favorite build you've done so far! Abzan for like and always a fan of the ol Treefolk. I've tried to build Doran decks in modern for fun but Commander is definitely the better home for him lol
Pretty ballsy move you could do here with Tree of Perdition (or Tree of Redemption) is swap its life total with a players which, in Commander, can get pretty high and then using Assault Formation suddenly swing in with a 40+/40+ creature, on like turn 4 if all goes smoothly
I also have a Doran deck but it's a bit deceptive, because it's actually a land destruction combo deck, meant to destroy all lands and then bring mine back. Catches people off guard each time
This deck craves an Amageddon. It's tough to Wrath with no mana on board. Also, I'd probably still run Virtus as long as I'm running Gorm, since making them lose half their life is on-plan.
Treefolk Harbinger is a good card and Timber Protector as well to make Doran indestructible, Felidar Sovereign is very good in the deck if you’re gaining life because it’s hard for opponents to get you under 40, Phyrexian Walker is a 0 mana 3/3 and Shield Sphere is a card worth considering as well... Also like Tree of Perdition and a few more defender cards, tree is good in a pod for switching one opponents life total and killing another with it. A lot of people don’t try to go the defender route, but I think it’s worth the potential for them to just be huge blockers and cards like Rolling Stones are easy enough to get down. Tower Defense I’m sure I just missed being in the video, crackdown and meekstone are all-stars of course as everyone who plays it knows. Tocatli Honor Guard also an amazing hatebear that’s a 2 mana 3/3... I’ve been playing this deck a very long time lol, it can actually be VERY competitive one v one, taking down genuine tier decks,and in a pod you’d be surprised how many times you can win just from your “janky” cards. Love love love this content :)
In my opinion, Unstoppable Ash would have made a great addition to this deck. Sure, the Champion a Treefolk/Warrior is a lost, but the fact every time one of your creatures gets blocked, it gets a +0/+5 on top of what it already is.
I would have kinda expected a bit more protection/recursion for the big tree, considering how much the deck relies on that effect to make much sense at all... sure, you've got a few backup copies of that effect, but those in turn dont end up doing a whole lot while bigbosstree is around. And you're in the perfect colours for it too... Considering how cheap most of your creatures, including Doran himself, are manawise, how about Phyrexian Reclamation? Usually innocent enough to be left sitting by most opponents, can get you quite a few things back throughout a game, and you've even got a bit of lifegain if you're worried about the cost...
Just ordered this deck so I can try it out at my Wednesday night Commander League! I wanted to brew an Arcades deck but there's a guy there who already has one! So I want to do something a little different but I like these colors and the similar mechanic. Thanks!
Shalai would go quite well in here too, it'll stop a lot of direct creature removal and sac effects, and its only $2.50 to consider adding in as an upgrade
I've been brewing a similar toughness matters deck for some time but I put Doran in the 98 and partner up Ikra Shidiqi and Bruse Tarl for some insane lifegain. I reckon there are enough assault formation type effects now that you can run them in the deck instead of the command zone.
Nice Deck Tech! For me personally Doran is one of the commanders that you see and it is immediately obvious what's gonna get played. I prefer it if a Commander has more "elaborate", not-so-obvious synergies, so this one just doesn't quite appeal to me. Great vid anyway!
I have been thinking about buying one of these decks, any pros and cons I should know about? I love black, green, and white in that order. Know the strategy of magic well, so complexity shouldn't be a problem. and love the combos of commander. I almost bought the K'rrik deck immediately after I saw it but wanted to wait and ask. Do you have a deck you recommend? Also, why do you love Wayfarer's bauble so much? Sorry, that's a lot.
Cool deck, big fan of Abzan, and had been deciding between a Doran deck or an Anafenza deck. (you could make an Anafenza deck so I can compare the lists *wink*)
Any chance of an update on this deck after LOTR last year with a whole lot more Treefolk added in to choose from just in case we wanted to possibly go Tribal? Can definitely see that this deck probably suits Doran a lot better than Treefolk Trival though? I’m just curious what might be added tk this out of what’s been released the last 4 years 🤔 Thanks for the great tech regardless!
@Commanders Quarters do you think you could do a break the bank episode featuring Kess Dissident Mage? I've seen a lot of success in my play groups with the combos I was just wondering if there was any way to upgrade the upgraded deck without spending 4 thousand dollars 😅
Tireless Tribe A 1/1 for W yes. Discard a card get +0/+4 until end of turn....also yes! And it is $0.20 each. Running tons of draw int his build anyway. Tireless tribe + full hand = tons of damage. Also super hard to off with burn or -1/-1 magics. The opponent risks every attack or block phase including this guy and you having a card in your hand. Discarding 1 card essentially makes it a 5/5 in combat. Two cards.....9/9. Three....you nuts.....now this be a 13/13 sucker, talking REAL BUSINESS. Seven cards.....well now its 29/29 hella big monster. Very few ways to get that type of profit for discarding a card.
Hey, could you maybe, possibly do Brawl Techs? I think it's a cool format, and i would love for it to be supported, especially by the most rapidly rising MTG channel there is!
My Doran deck is not as good because 1. It’s all foil and doesn’t have access to all the cards. 2. Every spell in the deck is cmc of 2 or less...... probably not the best idea but it’s what I did.
The creature has 7 toughness, but because it deals combat damage equal to its toughness, it's essentially a 7/7 while really only having less than 4 power.
Slaughter the strong is also another good one sided board clear. It says that each player can only have 4 power total in their creatures, and they have to sacrifice the rest.
Sick to see a good ol Doran list, seems like most have switched to arcades these days
access to blue is just too good to pass up. also, arcades is such a good card engine
but then again i guess doran can use any creature with high toughness to attack, so a larger variety
Arcades doesnt neuter opponents creatures and you lose skulk and black tree. These creatures dont feature trample so swinging in with like 30 unblockable pretty amazing.
This list didnt feel as focused on the strategy as some. Just kinda was big toughness fatties and missed important ones lime shield sphere. But where is like tireless tribe 20+ tough for 1 mana. With the lifegain why not use serra avatar. Loxodon lifechanter might only have 6 toughness but it does so much more than a 10 toughness with no abilities.
Sidar Kondo of Jumuraa + Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper partner-commanders is another take on this, with Doran in the 99.
Edit: If you don't remember it's toughness-lifelink (Ikra) and evasion for power 2- defender synergy (Kondo).
@@draxthemsklonst But that makes you far less likely to have a Doran effect on the board. Isn't that too unreliable?
yay, 'Behind the scenes' makes an appearance! I knew that card could be useful somewhere!
Its sick in alesha as well I loved playing it
Here's some other cards: sheltering Word (protection), Aegis of the Heavens, Belbe
s Armor, (pumps), Foul Renewal (revival), Abzan Beastmaster, Fruit of the First Tree (draws), Magnigoth Treefolk (landwalk), plus more toughness - World Breaker, Deathless Angel, Dragonlord Dromoka, and Fendeep Summer
Doran the siege tower was actually the first commander deck I’ve ever built, and it’s nice seeing that we both included similar, and many of the same cards
As an Arcades Commander player, this is good to know that there are other high toughness pump spells at instant speed. Nice.
Farbog Revenant would also be nice in this deck. Doran doesn't actually change your creature's power, so the skulk mechanic still applies to Farbog Revenant's 1 power. Attach slagwurm armor, dodge the blockers with skulk, and swing in for 9 damage with lifelink.
This is definitely my favorite build you've done so far! Abzan for like and always a fan of the ol Treefolk. I've tried to build Doran decks in modern for fun but Commander is definitely the better home for him lol
Skinshifter has always looked like Nicholas Cage to me.
Pretty ballsy move you could do here with Tree of Perdition (or Tree of Redemption) is swap its life total with a players which, in Commander, can get pretty high and then using Assault Formation suddenly swing in with a 40+/40+ creature, on like turn 4 if all goes smoothly
Valorous stance is excellent removal AND protection for this deck.
omg yes I just started doing this deck recently and now I have a guide! c:
So have I xD
I also have a Doran deck but it's a bit deceptive, because it's actually a land destruction combo deck, meant to destroy all lands and then bring mine back. Catches people off guard each time
This deck craves an Amageddon.
It's tough to Wrath with no mana on board.
Also, I'd probably still run Virtus as long as I'm running Gorm, since making them lose half their life is on-plan.
Finished my Doran mere days before Arcades was spoiled.
No regrets tough. Doran is great and budget friendly.
Treefolk Harbinger is a good card and Timber Protector as well to make Doran indestructible, Felidar Sovereign is very good in the deck if you’re gaining life because it’s hard for opponents to get you under 40, Phyrexian Walker is a 0 mana 3/3 and Shield Sphere is a card worth considering as well... Also like Tree of Perdition and a few more defender cards, tree is good in a pod for switching one opponents life total and killing another with it. A lot of people don’t try to go the defender route, but I think it’s worth the potential for them to just be huge blockers and cards like Rolling Stones are easy enough to get down. Tower Defense I’m sure I just missed being in the video, crackdown and meekstone are all-stars of course as everyone who plays it knows. Tocatli Honor Guard also an amazing hatebear that’s a 2 mana 3/3... I’ve been playing this deck a very long time lol, it can actually be VERY competitive one v one, taking down genuine tier decks,and in a pod you’d be surprised how many times you can win just from your “janky” cards. Love love love this content :)
In my opinion, Unstoppable Ash would have made a great addition to this deck. Sure, the Champion a Treefolk/Warrior is a lost, but the fact every time one of your creatures gets blocked, it gets a +0/+5 on top of what it already is.
I would have kinda expected a bit more protection/recursion for the big tree, considering how much the deck relies on that effect to make much sense at all... sure, you've got a few backup copies of that effect, but those in turn dont end up doing a whole lot while bigbosstree is around. And you're in the perfect colours for it too...
Considering how cheap most of your creatures, including Doran himself, are manawise, how about Phyrexian Reclamation? Usually innocent enough to be left sitting by most opponents, can get you quite a few things back throughout a game, and you've even got a bit of lifegain if you're worried about the cost...
One nice addition is the Zombie Oketra, 3/6 with double strike and a loooot of zombies :D
I just started to make this deck, you read my mind
Quite appropriate for the current teamtrees campiagn
#teamtrees
Yeah, I guess so...🙂
Doran is one of my favorite commanders! Great video, I’m always looking for new ideas.
I've been trying to build a spider tribal with this commander, but I like this idea much better
Just ordered this deck so I can try it out at my Wednesday night Commander League! I wanted to brew an Arcades deck but there's a guy there who already has one! So I want to do something a little different but I like these colors and the similar mechanic. Thanks!
Thanks to this video i can now remember my Doran deck with 90 cards in it. It was stuck in the shadow of the Xenagos deck i just pumped 600$ into.
budget deck tech: exists
swiftfoot boots: _it's free real estate_
Shalai would go quite well in here too, it'll stop a lot of direct creature removal and sac effects, and its only $2.50 to consider adding in as an upgrade
Recently slammed together Doran & Arcades using Ikra & Ishai, couldn't be happier. Skull storm in that is a powerhouse
Just what I was looking for, thanks!
I like a lot. I tried building Doran a few years back but focused on other decks.
It maybe a little mana intensive, but Crowd Favorites is a card that I like in toughness matters decks
I've been waiting for this deck!!!!
Doran is my favorite commander, the difference is that i play mine tribal trees, because i got to save the planet
I'm doing mine as a wall tribal 😂
Just wanted to let everyone know I Brought this Deck for my Wife for Xmas... just a few days ago...I stay with treefolk tribal though.
I've been brewing a similar toughness matters deck for some time but I put Doran in the 98 and partner up Ikra Shidiqi and Bruse Tarl for some insane lifegain. I reckon there are enough assault formation type effects now that you can run them in the deck instead of the command zone.
I'd love to see Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves. There is a notable lack of Selesnya decks in your budget series.
I second that!! I'd love to see more selesnya commander decks!!
Nice Deck Tech! For me personally Doran is one of the commanders that you see and it is immediately obvious what's gonna get played. I prefer it if a Commander has more "elaborate", not-so-obvious synergies, so this one just doesn't quite appeal to me. Great vid anyway!
I built a Doran deck last year, but this ones better, so I'm taking some of it.
I have Arcades version of defender deck, it's budget, and it's my strongest deck, everyone are afraid of it. Man, defenders decks are awesome.
Lmao your friends have some weak deck
@@Rey99m Maybe you just didn't play against good defender deck, remember, bant is quite strong combination.
I started building this deck last night!
im building this today.
Fastest growing magic channel
I have been thinking about buying one of these decks, any pros and cons I should know about? I love black, green, and white in that order. Know the strategy of magic well, so complexity shouldn't be a problem. and love the combos of commander. I almost bought the K'rrik deck immediately after I saw it but wanted to wait and ask. Do you have a deck you recommend? Also, why do you love Wayfarer's bauble so much? Sorry, that's a lot.
Ensaring Bridge is brocken with this deck 😂
So it's not exactly budget but Meekstone is really good in Doran where every creature has 3 or less power
Great pick, I was just looking at Doran.
Ooooo, that looks like a super fun deck!
Cool deck, big fan of Abzan, and had been deciding between a Doran deck or an Anafenza deck. (you could make an Anafenza deck so I can compare the lists *wink*)
Any chance of an update on this deck after LOTR last year with a whole lot more Treefolk added in to choose from just in case we wanted to possibly go Tribal? Can definitely see that this deck probably suits Doran a lot better than Treefolk Trival though? I’m just curious what might be added tk this out of what’s been released the last 4 years 🤔
Thanks for the great tech regardless!
THANK YOU, MITCH!!!
Mentor of the meek could be a nice card.
It’s card draw, but not a good attacker.
What about Languish? -4/-4 could board wipe your opponents.
Also screws classic token decks :)
Can you do a budget stax deck? I realize it’s not super popular, but I’m curious how good a budget stax deck is.
a voltron krenko, king street kingpin deck would be fun
What’s the background card art shown during “get a lot of toughness on the board and start swinging?”
@Commanders Quarters do you think you could do a break the bank episode featuring Kess Dissident Mage? I've seen a lot of success in my play groups with the combos I was just wondering if there was any way to upgrade the upgraded deck without spending 4 thousand dollars 😅
I would totally build this if I didn't already have Arcades, the Strategist.
how to be dummy thicc on a budget. great video!
He says saporling of colfnier is a better option
Another good creature to have in here is unhallowed phalanx
Good deck. Its nice
Murmuring bosk
I love your vids
I feel like budget MTG did a better job taking full use of the low power scale. But you did have a nice "golden pig" card
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My Doran deck is Infect
Tireless Tribe
A 1/1 for W yes. Discard a card get +0/+4 until end of turn....also yes! And it is $0.20 each. Running tons of draw int his build anyway. Tireless tribe + full hand = tons of damage. Also super hard to off with burn or -1/-1 magics. The opponent risks every attack or block phase including this guy and you having a card in your hand. Discarding 1 card essentially makes it a 5/5 in combat. Two cards.....9/9. Three....you nuts.....now this be a 13/13 sucker, talking REAL BUSINESS. Seven cards.....well now its 29/29 hella big monster. Very few ways to get that type of profit for discarding a card.
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Instead of using Wave of Reckoning, use Solar Blaze from War of the Spark, it costs less. It does the same thing.
Solar Blaze is red...
True
Can you do a Tariel edh deck? Maybe angel tribal?
Tree of preditation is amazing with this, forcing another player to 14 life and having a 0/40 if it lives 1 turn.
Probably not in the price range
Doran is the oldest EDH deck that I still have put together. What can I say, I like big butts! :)
I actually got a doran. Lets check out this build
Do a saskia the unyielding deck tech
TCG player optimization sucks sometimes. Sometimes the optimized cart increases the cost which is a little stupid I think
Can you please make a Glissa The Traitor Deck Please?
Can you make a deck tech on etali primal storm
Hey, could you maybe, possibly do Brawl Techs? I think it's a cool format, and i would love for it to be supported, especially by the most rapidly rising MTG channel there is!
Can you do godo helm budget?
My Doran deck is not as good because
1. It’s all foil and doesn’t have access to all the cards.
2. Every spell in the deck is cmc of 2 or less...... probably not the best idea but it’s what I did.
Okaun and Zndrsplt?
Thx for the video. Can you do next time ghave please
My buyi g prices for this deck and I'm following mitchd guide obvs but has anyone played it?
Wait. This deck has 4 Mana 7/7s in it?
The creature has 7 toughness, but because it deals combat damage equal to its toughness, it's essentially a 7/7 while really only having less than 4 power.
@@halla1rw 4 Mana 7/7s are a joke from hearthstone. Magic also has a few of them in it too.
Three words
Tree of perdition
"for just 4 mana we get a 10/10 which is absolutely unheard of" Death's shadow and marit lage say hi.
why is this so sped up? i can barely understand what he's saying
Gisa and geralf edh aa
wait....zeltapa is only around 40 p?
oh wait thats dollars
subarashii
Спасибо, лайк поставил
Ehhh...I still prefer Arcades ;)
Indomitable Ancients at almost 4 dollars? D: Wtf?
The audio gets louder at 12:30
cool
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6:39 bro, titanic growth does the same thing for cheaper....
It's not the same, learn to read, bar the door does it for the whole team, titanic growth is just ONE creature.
PurpleTentacle17 oh dang.
PurpleTentacle17 guess you’re right.