WHARFEDALE Speakers! DIAMOND 12.4 Towers FLOORSTANDING SPEAKERS Review
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► REVIEWING THE WHARFEDALE DIAMOND 12.4 FLOORSTANDING SPEAKERS
For our second go at Wharfedale speakers, we’re taking a look at the new Diamond Series 12.4 floorstanding speakers. If you’re shopping for floorstanding speakers under 1000, these should be high on your list. In this review we find out just how close the Wharfedale Diamond 12.4 towers get to one of our favorite budget tower speakers, the Klipsch RP-8000F.
WHARFEDALE Speakers! DIAMOND 12.4 Towers FLOORSTANDING SPEAKERS Review
INTRO: 00:00
SPECS: 00:45
SOUND: 02:12
BASS PERFORMANCE: 03:50
MIDRANGE PERFORMANCE: 04:33
HIGH FREQ PERFORMANCE: 05:28
SOUNDSTAGE/DYNAMICS: 06:18
COMPAIRISONS: 08:37
ANDREW'S CONCLUSION: 10:00
BONUS CONVERSATION: 11:09
SIGN OFF: 23:00
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I think I'd still pick the Klipsch 8000F as you mentioned these speakers were more lively and Kristi's observation she likes the bass better than the 12.4. No matter the speaker, if I can do without a subwoofer then the happier I am with the speakers.
@@BryanRuby Appreciate you taking the time to answer to QOD. Have to say, I'm still slightly in the 8000F camp myself though the 12.4s are really good speakers.
I haven't heard either but have wharfedale lintons and 4.4s (which are great) so I'd probably go klipsch out of interest! Still saving for something from the klipsch heritage range, maybe start off with heresy but I'm also fascinated by Cornwall (easy placing is important in our tiny British houses 😂).
It would be nice to see a comparison between Heritage Line Lake lascala or heresy compared to the new rp-8000f in terms of stereo listening quality and SPL levels. New vs old.
Without having listened to either, the Warfedale 12.4, mainly aesthetically they look awesome, the light oak really set of your listening room, their basically half the price in the U.K, exceptional build for the price weighing in at 48.5 pounds, not alot of speakers weighi that much in this particular price category, Carl's Finks renowned speaker designers input, internal bracing is meant to be bullet proof creating a very inert cabinet, all this and the attention to detail suggests to me a speaker that will sound better and better as time goes by, but I am tempted by the Wharfedale EVO 12.3 aswell, only an audition will tell me wether the additional expenditure is justified 🙂👍.
Really liked the bonus conversation. Kirsti's perspective is easier to relate to for people without Andrew's decades of experience. Keep it up!
I've just bought the Wharfedales, literally less than 24 hours ago, so I'm still assessing them in my house. My comment is really about the comparison with the Klipsch RP 8000f. Here in the UK the Wharfedale Diamond 12.4 cost about £700 and the Klipsch cost around £1300, so with that price difference (almost double the cost) I don't see it as true comparison. The closer UK comparisons would be for speakers like the Dali Oberon 5, KEF Q550, Mission QX5, Q acoustics concept 40, or the Q acoustics 3050i. My hi-fi dealer steered me away from the Dali, Mission, KEF and Q acoustics and recommended I bought the Wharfedales. I will find out over the next couple of weeks if I like them.
Update....2 weeks in and I love the Wharfedales. It's taken a little work to get the sound I was looking for. Positioning is key to balancing the bass, and I've got them about right for me. Speaker cables also seem to influence the sound more than with my previous speakers.
For the money they're pretty detailed, good vocals, treble is clear but not harsh, and I find they've got a pretty laid back sound, which is also what I was looking for. I actually bought them without reading or watching any reviews, so my hi-fi dealer did a great job recommending them. I'm very pleased with the purchase.
Krıstı ıs a good and honest revıewer. I really enjoy her.
She is. I enjoy her takes a lot as well!
Hey! Thank you!
I would prefer if you put the camera on her when she’s talking. If she’s comfortable with that of course. Maybe I’m just used to watching discussions with cameras shifting between speakers. But yeah, that’s my feedback. Great review! Thank you.
@@Lunarplex Agreed!
Excellent discussion. One of your best conversations. I have a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 230 floor standers. They sound similar but these older models seem warmer because their upper end is rolled off. Detail can be lacking but never abrasive. They create such huge soundstage. Playing “Cant Let Go” (theme from Bosch) sound wraps completely around you. Pretty amazing.
The soundstage of these speakers are EPIC. Seriously, insane. Thanks for tuning in Steve!
Thank you for hanging out until the end!
Sure thing! I always do.
Great review, Andrew. Loved the 12.2’s. Sounds like these sound a lot like the 12.2’s. Glad you made it through the viscous polar vortex.
Wharfedales are masters at making balanced sounding speakers. Its hard to describe what Wharfedales sound like because they are just..... balanced. And balance is the key to great audio!
This discussion between partners is essential, if only because these are significant purchases. And for those couples who really enjoy music, it can be a huge impact on the home life.
I just feel the need to thank the two of you. Navigating audio isn't easy without someone to be a guide. Your points are easy to understand. I've always valued honesty and integrity in people. You bring that to our audio world as well as your attitude toward helping others. You set the bar by example. Many thanks ! Edit: I am a Klipsch RP - 8000f guy. I got them after seeing your review. I appreciate them every day. :)
That’s exactly what I’m talking about when everyone is trying to make me buy Martin Logan Electrostatics. They’re great speakers, but I don’t like them. Them feel and sound too fake, too electric if you will, to me personally. I compared side by side the MLs with B&W exact same price point and same equipment, and I always would go with B&W. But that doesn’t make those MLs bad speakers. Just not for me. I wish audiophile world was a bit easier going and somewhat more including. Also love your talks with Kristi at the end! Keep em coming!
Wow, this is the first 12.4 review I've seen. Thanks!
Let us know how we did when. you get to the end. Thanks for watching!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Great review. Appreciate the comparisons to other speakers like 3050i which I'm also considering. Also appreciate the comparison on amplifiers. The 3050i are less than half the price of the 12.4 in Australia. So have to decide what to do!
I really like the interaction between you two. Makes for a better understanding of the feel you get from different speakers.
Another great review can’t take away how open minded you both are that is very important. And it’s true at the end of the day it’s what you like that is important. I use to have separates some time back but know I own condo and I’m doing the soundbar thing LG sn11rg just play with the settings and you’ll enjoy it to. But once I get a larger space it will be back to a true system and I will get what makes my ears happy I keep you posted.
The SN11RG is a fun bar...nothing wrong with that! Thanks for watching, Ray.
Thank you for replying I enjoy you guys your not full of your self’s like others. Have a great day
Wow Kristi you are taking your reviewing skills to the next level here in this video. Having seen most of you two lovely People’s videos must say it is a heartwarming experience to follow your journey going from “just” producing behind the camera, to giving Andrews viewpoints some great alternative points :). As for the question i would go with Sound over design 🎶
I certainly appreciate the job you guys do with these reviews. As many others have lamented I miss having the opportunity to hear audio equipment before I buy it. However I never found the store experience to be that satisfying as nothing ever sounded the same once I got it home. Not necessarily worse, just different. I have rarely regretted any audio purchase in my life. they have all had their positives. I do think you guys are maybe just as valuable as having that store experience. I have purchased a couple of products that you reviewed and I felt like I had heard them before they arrived. There were no surprises when I heard them. They sounded exactly like I thought they would based on your reviews. Thank you for that.
I Absolutely LOVE the added conversation with Kristi. Brilliant addition to your channel!
*cough*JBL /Fell-of-chair-laughing!!!
Great review Andrew. Here's Guttenberg's description of Wharfedale bass via the Evo 4.3. You are both accurate in a different way but the same. Wharfedale bass is a curious, refined and beautiful thing. Once you ride that horse for a few miles the saddle gets very comfortable.
I bought the RP-8000F after listening to your review and love them. I find they sound better as days go by!
I love the bonus conversations with Kristi. It opens up the discussion and ands depth to the comparisons. It's great to hear a second opinion too! The fact that the second opinion if from a woman adds even more to the conversation. Great video. Based on your review I'd probably go with the Klipsch speakers. They are easier to drive, get louder without distortion, better base extension. It seems the Wharfedale could only be recommended if I heard them myself and was able to make my own subjective assessment.
These speakers are the best speakers I've ever owned, now that's not saying too much because I just gotten into building a Hi-Fi system. I can hear the brass from the strumming of the guitar, and the texture of the cello, vocals sound amazing, The sound of the brush on the snare of jazz music sounds incredible. Texture and Vocals would be the two words Id use to describe these speakers, I'm sure my ear will change later but for now Im really liking these.
Even though I am not interested in purchasing new speakers, totally happy with my Triangle bookshelfs, (and also not into tower speakers as a whole) I find your voice @Andrew Robinson, so soothing and engaging, I just have to listen to (every) review or thought that comes out of your YT-channel. I am though, on the slight hunt for a power amplifier (around 100W/ch) and would gladly see a review of that in the future... ;) Two thumbs up man! You're great! Stay safe!
I am still an 8000F Fan, speed in the bass does it for me.....I have been buying vintage speakers for years, walked into Crutchfield last month hear the Klipsch, and was blown away.....Brought them on the spot.......selling vintage JBL 's now.
Perfect timing for this review. If possible, I’m looking for input.
The two speakers we keep coming back to for updating our 2.1 system are actually these Wharfedales and the Focal Chora 816. Mostly for acoustic music.
Our trusty local shop’s more distant location has a pair of 816s for $1000 total, which is a real steal, but it’s hard to find reviews. Your review of the 806 was handy, though.
I did get to listen to them and I liked the clarity of the sound and don’t mind it probably needs a subwoofer. It’s far enough away it’s hard to schedule another visit unless it’s to purchase.
We love the PSB T2s in our living room but are on a tighter budget for this. Funny enough, whatever we get will be hooked up with a recently purchased V6A.
Ya'll are a great team, it's really cool to watch you work so well together! Keep up the great work!
As for which one i'd prefer i'd say it depends what your looking for. I have a living room set up that's a pair of forte III with an old 1976 Sansui Receiver, and I have a bed room system with the Wharfedale 11.2 bookshelf and and old 1980 Yamaha Receiver. Both Systems are great The Klipsch and the Sansui are warm and punchy, funk, jazz, and Disco just sing out of them! They have a swing to them that just makes listening to them very pleasant and enjoyable, and you can analyze the sound stage but the music just kinda washes over you. With the Wharfedal and Yamaha system It's really clear and it actually sounds like instruments are actually there, but the soundstage is so exact that you can almost only listen to one part of the music at a time which is great for like jazzy guitar licks or someone like Fiest, but if you've got a song that's bigger and has more moving parts you really only feel like you're hearing one part of the song at a time because it is so clear or it's overwhelming because all the moving parts are fight for attention.
In general I like the Kilipsch and Sansui more but some times its really nice to just zero in on one instrument and get lost in its details as it dances around the sound stage like with my Wharfdale Yamaha System.
"Gets within view of the summit" - I love that turn of phrase
For me, these are gorgeous looking speakers. Clean, modern, minimalist with hints of intrigue (those floor spikes and the oak wood grain look so good). Would love to audition them.
Really happy brought up a comparison with the 3050I's, my favorite speaker I'd get next; Wharfedales I heard are "traditional" British sounding, having a cooler tone where I prefer "Everything But The Girl" or The Postmarks-like dynamics, but your review casts a new and positive light on the Wharfedales...and "what everyone has been waiting for", so true, but it is the "whole" this makes it delightful
Thank❤🎶❤You yet again
The Daimond range has always been very good. I donn't know how long you have been able to get them in the States, but they have been around for many years in the UK. Just about every series has been very good. Thanks guys.
One of the things I enjoy most about your reviews is hearing Christie's thoughts. Another well done review! Would like to have the space to audition a few of the speakers you've reviewed, but, alas, that is not the case.
Glad you both agreed that listening to sounds produced by any pair of speakers is subjective to the listener. I just bought the Wharfedales , so we’ll see if I agree with either or both of you 😊
Thanks for your videos guys! I love watching them on Sunday mornings while eating breakfast, watching your lovely apartment and enjoying Kristi ´s comments - oh andrew...yours to 😒 haha-. Kudos from Mexico City!
Thanks so much mcfrdy!
I was considering buying this speaker yesterday. So thanks for the review.
I was rock solid in getting the 8000f after watching your review on them.
Then I saw this review and switched over to the 12.4 in an instant.
Then Kristy came on with her perspective and no nonsense down to earth English.
Which to me, who is not fluid in audiophile speak, sounds just angelic.
I'm back in the klipsch camp 😂
I bought the Klipsch’s back in December and have no regrets whatsoever! I drive them with the Yamaha RX-A2A (the Aventage version of the RX-V6A) and simply love the combination.
These sound like they might be a good choice for me. As always, appreciate the honest reviews and conversation.
Those are some gorgeous speakers. Great review andrew and Kristi. Thank you for posting videos for all of us..
Thanks for tuning in Jonathan! Appreciate. you watching!
The light wood grain is gorgeous in person. Appreciate you watching!
When i first bought my wharfedales 11.2, i heard them in demo room on cambridge audio amp but i dont remember which model and i was a lil bit meh, but okay i got them... but when i connected them at my v6a , they shined...and with this review u made me get myself 12.4 😄😄
Kristy is getting better and better and spot on, well done to both of you! Really enjoying the content, thanks!
Thank you!
The second opinion in a review is massive,, in terms of the final decision for a potential purchaser I think.
Nice review as always. Wharfedale fanboy here. Wharfedale Diamonds for the ht and Wharfedale Linton Heritage for the living room. Klipsch heritage (Heresy or Cornwalls) is on my wishlist too😊 See you guys on your next video.
I’m thrilled with their presentation style!
@ Andrew Robinson, I just love the commentary between Kristi and yourself at the end of many of your videos. Like she so eloquently described, I too am learning how to communicate what really excites my auditory nerve. I agree that I am in the camp of those who prefer bass punch over depth. Would Kristi care to weigh-in on her favorite bookshelf speaker? Thank you.
Really enjoyed the review and the shirt! :-).
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for another instructive and enjoyable review, Andrew. I think I have a foot in both camps -- Klipsch+sub for HT and Wharfedale for 2 channel listening. My main reason for commenting, though, is to say that you and Kristi hit it out of the park with the "bonus" conversation. I have watched hundreds of hifi youtube reviews over the last month, having recently decided I need to do some major upgrades, and the conversation with Kristi added something invaluable I have not found on any other channel. It was super helpful to hear Kristi articulate her slightly different perspective, and then listen to the thoughtful back and forth between you. I also very much appreciated the "meta" discussion about how we go about expressing our evaluative judgments about audio gear -- wise words we could all profit from applying in many other contexts. I hope you will make these conversations a regular feature for the channel. It would really make your channel stand out even more than it already does.
When you get a chance check out the Wharfedale EVO 4.2s
Noted. Though I'm not usually a fan of AMT tweeters though perhaps Wharfedale has cracked it and I'll love it.
Good stuff guys, i really needed this.
Thicker bass or slower bass could be example of room acoustic. Maybe the Wharedale’s is exciting a 60 HZ room mode by 8db or the speakers have a natural bump at 60 HZ for example. Having an electronic room correction would be interesting for the Wharfedale’s and also any loudspeakers that you review. I have a pair of Epos ES 22 loudspeakers which have known to have a very fast bass response- similar cabinet dimension and driver size as the Wharfedale’s. With the Epos ES 22, my room has a 8 db 40 HZ hump. With Linn’s Space Optimization- a room correction feature-the 8 db 40 HZ bass hump is electronically corrected. With the bass correction of 40 hz, the Epos ES 22 produces very fast bass response with authority and an almost perfect flow to the bass that will have your feet tapping to your favorite music! Excellent reviews! Thanks!
I want camera on Kristi too. Thanks for the helpful information in your comprehensive reviews!
We love our Diamond 9.5! Thank you! 🙂❤
Great Review!! You guys planning a live stream in the near future? To discuss audio with your fans.
Keep up the good work for me you guys are on the top of all the audiophile clips on RUclips
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As usual a honest and interesting review. I had some Diamond 12.1 eons a go and did like the sound before changing over to a Infinity surround system.
But even more interesting to me is the view of a Technics SL-G700...
The ease of streaming music has not passed me by (currently using HomePods) but some more "mature" listening material is on my mind.
Wonder if the both of you are reviewing this fine machine any time soon in combination with the Technics SU-G700?
Kinda dribbling over this combination with some Q series KEF for my coming home, take a beer, drop on the sofa and enjoy my music moment🙂
Great review! Also love the rug in this video:)
Hi andrew
Thanks for the all time very good review,
Will you review the evo line (4.4)?
Thanks
Agree with Christi contributing. A different perspective is totally relevant, great job bringing 2 differing opinions.
Great review. Really enjoyed the post discussion. The T-shirt is on point as well.
Thanks for watching all the way through to the end, and Kristi gets the credit for the T.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews might one inquire where said shirt was purchased?
Wharfedale speakers have plenty of bass and it remains in a balanced laid back. I have Evo 4.3 and the bass is perfect for jazz/small ensemple. Gutenberg offers a very good description of Wharfedale bass in his 4.3 review. Love my 4.3 and Diamond 12.2. The pads for the spikes are in a box hidden under the bottom foam of the packaging. Could you share a link for your stereo cabinet. I run a set of Klipsch 600M they're perfect for my 78 rpm system. 😍 Wharfedale.
Nice to see another value speaker I can recommend to friends and family.
22:32 "I think a lot of us just want to be right and want somebody to hear us…" Truth spoken there. We all have those moments even as we try to be objective and strive for better. 👍
Thanks for your view on these. It is a helpful extra reference for people to make a choice. I wonder if you could once do a comparison between the older B&W 602 s3 and the Wharfedale evo 4.2. Since the cabinet size is comparible as they are both 3 way and won both prizes in their own years. The components are completely different, so is the sound.
Hello to you
I have bought a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 12.3 and the optimum was to angle like inwards and it ended up being towards my shoulders which sounded the best. Drive them with my Audiolab 6000A. A perfect combo. Greetings Kristi.
Hi. May I ask your approximate listening room size? Got a 6000A and was looking at either the 12.3 or 12.4.
Thanks
Oh how I enjoyed this review, but your "chat" with the boss was the gem to behold. As someone who grew up in the 70's and 80's with Wharfedale Dentons and Lintons and yes, the legendary Wharfedale E70's. Your observation that preference rules all is so true. However, can I add that what you listen to adds to the equation. For music I love pace, rhythm and timing. I have an active Naim setup with a REL sub bass unit. For me it's Nirvana. However, for home theater it's different. I have a Klipsch 7.1.4 Atmos set up with a 150" screen. Here the bass can be bigger and less tight, the soundstage is critical as is the ability to "place" sound. Horses for courses. Final thought.... that Tee shirt is so perfect and I will get one. Love the font, please post a link! Thanks for what you and Kristi BOTH do.
Very much enjoying the new format! Have a soft spot for Diamonds since my first pair as a kid in the 80s. Feel they kinda lost their way for several generations but the 12s seem to be a wonderful return to form courtesy Karl-Heinz Fink's blank sheet designs.
Thanks for watching Rasheed! The new Diamond Series looks VERY promising and based on my experience with the 12.4s, I think enthusiasts will likely be well served by any of the speakers in this series.
Awesome real-world review. Loved the amp comparison w/ these speakers. Was wondering if you and Kristi ran the room correction on the Yamaha?
Love the video. Perfect discussion between you both. I’m a working bassist and engineer. So, I obsess over the bass. But my wife hates the boom. Anything in that neighborhood compels her to criticize the sound as like a kids over boosted car stereo.
Enjoyed the bonus commentary... including her feedback in future reviews would be welcomed. Curious if you have listened to their EVO or Elysian models.
Andrew & Kristi - awesome video. Would a subwoofer (SVS PB-1000 Pro) reduce the impact or noticeability of snap vs. mellow bass in the 12.4s? Would you place the sub somewhere specifically for that reason (eg front vs back)? And can receiver settings compensate? I’m using a Marantz 6014 primarily for movies
Your reviews have helped me tailor my system, great channel. Any plans to review the Wharfedale evo 4.4?
Hi Richard, no imminent plans for the Evo line but so glad to hear the channel has helped you!
"*Cough* JBL" Love it!
As a JBL fan myself, this little comment made me smile inside. LoL. I am sure my set are no where near any audiophile level of clarity by any means but they make me happy and well, I won't quote your tag line but I agree with you 💯!
Great review - thank you. No offense to you Andrew but I must say I really value, and look forward to, Kristi’s take on each item you review. It’s great to get a second opinion of the same item being used in the same room with the same electronics. It really highlights how we all experience hifi equipment differently. No need to get into male versus female ... we can just settle for different people having different taste. Another thing that I like about your reviews is the mention of aspects other than just the sound. Looks, feel, x-factor, UI, whatever we want to call it. After all, there is a reason why the Uniti Atom became such a success. It wasn’t just the sound.
Next video please!
Thomas
No offense taken. Appreciate you noting the other aspects of a product's performance or design that we try and point out in our videos.
Been waiting for this! I own the Diamond 220 book shelves paired with the SVS SB-1000. I do plan on upgrading to towers sometime this year and I was planning on getting the 230 towers, but I might just go with 12.4s who knows? A think it's a few sessions at my local Hi-Fi store and some demo's!
I love the warmness my 220s possess but that also might be due to how heavily carpeted my room is
The 12.4 are great towers and a relative steal for the price.
I just got back into high end audio, particularly for home theatre and I have to say your review of the Monitor Audio Bronze 100's particularly peaked my interest and are on my list to get once things stabilize in my business
The Bronze speakers would be great for home theater use.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I can't wait to grab em!
Nice one. It is refreshing to 2 persoectives on a product in the same review., especially with audio. All of us obviously hear things differently, so getting an opinion from another who been in the same listening environment relating their experience, is IMHO, a great way of presenting a review. More of them should do it.
Wiondering if you've heard of the Vector Finesse Head (amame) 3D printed headphones - very interesting, available in DIY form and also fully assembled. Would be an ideal piece for a review, or the Burson Funk - their new all in one HPA and stereo amp.
Have a nice day. Cheers.
Again, a solid review! I will be in the market for a new speaker this year and I had entertained looking at the Wharfedale units due to their price point, but also how many positive user reviews they receive on some online retailers' sites. Even with the great reviews, I think that I would still be on Team Klipsch and go with the RP-8000F here. Similar to Kristi, I also like a speaker that has "kick" over "punch". In fact, it may be why I continue to use my old Klipsch R-28F floor standing speakers. Where the 8000F seems to be a great upgrade from what I am currently running is the superior tweeter design that really gives a nice performance, taking away the harshness that Klipsch critics dislike while retaining the dynamics that Klipsch faithful rave about!
I like these wharfdale 12.4s
. What do you think would work best on a lower budget under 2k with an Sx 950 pioneer I just purchased. You sold me on vintage stereos as have others and I love your reviews. I'm putting this in my 12 x17 bedroom. I'm looking at the kef 950s the heco aurora 700s as well . Maybe a bookshelf of some sort. I'm lost with all the options. Lol
Loving your reviews much more with the second opinion.
Just purchased these for 440$. Cant wait to recieve them!
great review, & luv th back & forth w/Kristi! You can tell she's brutally honest & doesn't sugarcoat her opinion. That is sooo refreshing in a world where everyone is trying to be p.c. & candy ass their way around th truth! Its like, jus give it to me straight people or screw off! Oh & no, im not saying u do that Andrew @ all! You're very well spoken & a natural salesman, plus, you do get your point across even when its negative about th product. Kristi's bluntness plays well off your politeness, plz keep it up guys! 1 last thing, I love it when for 2chan listening you include th genres of music u tried & how th speakers fared w/each. I'm a Classic/Hard/Metal Rock listener & alot of reviewers don't mention it & its important to me, thanks🍻🍸
i love his channel i love speakers and i love the way to talk about them great videos!
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on a side note... wish my wife loved my hobby as well lol envy for sure
Really enjoy your reviews. The vibe, differing opinions...great stuff. I think it would be terrific seeing a review on the polarizing, legendary bose 901. There's been so much said about these speakers but few actual reviews. I think it would be great from a vintage/ value/ hype/ cost/ performance...even the look of them and how they fit in a room. I think a lot of people would love your take on them, and the discussion they could open up. Thanks again. Great work.
You'll get your wish soon!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Excellent! meant to specify the 901's. And corrected that. Sorry. The ultimate love/ hate Bose product?
Thanks for the great video 👍 I think you’ve just sold a set of these! Was planing on buying the Yamaha RXV6A as a combo Turntable/Starter Home cinema set up for my living room. Going so start by pairing it with these Wharfedale’s and see how I get on from there.
Yeah I forgot, love your channel and your reviews and adding Kristy to an already great review puts you guys a step above the others.
Thanks so much!
@@andrewrobinsonreviews no sir, thank you.
Very well balanced review, My history: 1950"s (yes I am old) started with Brigg's 9CU Ft corner Wharfedales (15" Bass), progressed to Dovedales, Kingsdales, then changed to AR3a's, to Dahligists DQ10, to Accustat 1+1 (Counterpoint Pre and PS audio power), then as a pensioner got poor and now have Wharfeday Diamond 12. listen to classics, opera and good jazz; The wharfedales are good enough to give me listening pleasure
Based on your description of the two, I would choose the Klipsch because I prefer tight/sharp bass
I'm in the market for speakers but have a limited amount of places to audition them . I'm leaning towards the Wharfedale Lintons or the Klipsch 8000"s. Wish you had the Lintons in house to give a review and comparison. Really enjoyed all your reviews......thanks
Nice that there is room for different points of view! I understand Kristi when she expresses her allergy for uncontrolled bass heaviness. After buying the Q Acoustics 3050i I went on a year long journey to get the best out of them and the associated electronics. First I replaced the Denon 1713 AVR by a Leak Stereo 130. Then I decided to bypass the Leak’s DAC by adding a Zen DAC linked to microPC with Audirvana. I eventually replaced the Zen DAC PC combo by a Bluesound Node 2i and gave the speakers Gaia Acoustics iii feet. Finally I replaced the old speaker wire by Supra Ply 3.4 S shielded audio cables. What I gained throughout this journey was much better bass control, much less noise and overall a much more coherent and natural sound. Artists seem much closer and instruments sound more realistic. If I were to have the means, I would opt for a solution that is both more simple and more neutral: a pair of active ATC SCM 19 in combination with a Cambridge Audio Edge NQ steamer/preamp. But that system would cost 3 times more than mine... And honestly, I am happy and grateful to have what I have.
Great review, as always. I’ve a NAD 356BEE clad AB amp. Any chance you could review the PSB Alpha T20?
I wish I had more of an opportunity to really try out different receivers and different speakers to really try and hone in what I like and what I don't. I have a decent idea from the speakers I've owned or listened to (kanto, klipsch, wharfedale, kef), but i've only ever had the cambridge axa35 with nothing to really compare with it to know how that may change sound.
great review! definitely love hearing from both of you and the differences you both have on the same speakers.
Thank you for watching and I wish there were more places and opportunities for people to hear whatever they want.
would really love to hear your thoughts on EVO 4.3s or 4.4s with the AMT tweeter.
Yes, good review, fair review. Always respected the effort Wharfedale put into development and research , they seldom do much wrong. Of course, you cant please everybody, we all hear differently. Most loudspeakers I have tried often appeal greatly initially but I do find they become tiresome after extensive listening. I certainly found that the case with the QA and the Tannoy XT6F and also the Klipsch 8000, the long term just wouldnt have worked for me, but thats the subjectivity of what we wear, to each their own.
IFirst thing first, I like the honesty of both your optionnion. For my part you picked my curiosity. I have the Yamaha A8A 11.2 av receiver speakers Iand I would very much like to trry these speakers. Thanks
Kristi just keeps getting better. Fantastic Andrew and Kristi.
Thanks so much!
Very interesting review. Wharfedale seem to be putting out some pretty nice stuff at the moment. Any chance of reviewing the evo 4.4s?
I’d really like to see a phono cartridge shoot off episode. The Orotofon 2M red vs blue and bronze and than a few other branded options MM and MC at various price levels. And maybe even a (dare I even propose) a listening clip of each. I know it’s kind of pointless but it can be fun.
andrew needs to review the wharfedale evo 4.4 floor standing speakers.
Wow, Kristi has actually become a true critical audiophile listener. Bravo Kristi and congrats Andrew. I've been married for 39 years, it took my wife 25 years to truly care about quality audio. Wharfedales mostly have the British warm laid back sound. It seems that with the Diamond series they're trying to appeal to the more typical American Rock sound ( brighter highs & more forward). Kristi would probably prefer the Evo line with AMT treble and more deep bass.
Andrew and Kristi, Wharfedale 12.4 vs Heco 700/1000? Go!
I listened to lots of floorstanders in the covid interim. I had £1000 for my budget. I listened to the lot, QA, Klipsch, Dali, MA, Tannoy, the list goes on and on. For me the 12.4 stole the show hands down, though I do respect everybody has their own sort of sound but for me the 12.4s were just a better all rounder, everything about them I found very good, whereas with the rest I found them lacking in one area or another.
I cant fault them, the only speakers I heard that equalled and actually bettered the 12.4 were the Wharfedale EVO floorstanders, albeit £500 more expensive, still, I was heavily tempted by the EVO 4 and maybe one day. I went for the same finish here, the white and light oak and in all honesty I wish had gone for the darker wood effect with black baffle and grill. I suppose that comes down to preference etc.
I agree with the spiked feet, they are okay providing the speakers dont get moved around but they arent substantial enough to support such a large, heavy speaker, I was hoping a 3rd party manafacturer might offer something superior or wharfedale offer an upgrade option.
Interesting video all the same, just shows how we differ so much regarding sound. I found the Klipsch completely bass light, the QA are good speakers, but showing their age.
My advice, let your ears decide.
The strengths of the 12.4 are the natural and life-like midrange, it brings the singer into the room right in front of you. Also that HUGE soundstage is something sometimes bigger speakers cannot even achieve. One of the most, if not the most neutral measuring speakers in this price range albeit a very slight bass bump @ 100hz and a BBC Dip. Imaging is crazy good and easy to get right, 15-20 degrees off axis from my listening position is what I settled on in my room. And the Evo 4.4? It never gave me the life like presentation the 12.4 gave me, it might be sharper sounding with that AMT tweeter but thats about all it's got on the 12.4. Like you, Ive heard plenty of floorstanders costing as much 2-3 times more and they never sounded as balanced and natural as this. Balance is often overlooked and underrated, in fact it is the main trait that makes a speaker sound good!
Soundocity & Dayton audio make decent spiked outriggers .
I use them on my Rega Naos floor standers.
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I would love to hear your thoughts on a pair of Emotiva T0 or T1s. Just got a pair of 0s for my first towers and I'm incredibly impressed.
Great quote by Norann Voll. Enjoyed the review, of course.
Another great review. I own a pair of Klipsch RP5000fs driven with an old Sony 1060 and really enjoy them. They really make music (mainly from Qobuz, which I also love) sound alive. I thought you're review of the 8000s was spot on. They're giant killers! I wish they came in a white finish, but I highly recommend them to friends. What do you think for the KEF floorstanders? I considering a pair 750s (in white) for our beach house.
The only KEF we've had in house are the LS50 Metas. We've requested others in their line up so hopefully, we'll be able to answer that question for you sometime this year.
Hi Andrew, Can you please make a review of monitor audio silver 100. Will really appreciate it!