There's an old saying that states "separate the art from the aritist" but, as part of the fandom and being what these people have done , I feel I cannot do that.
I feel like that only works for problematic, but dead artists and/or consuming fanworks or having nostalgia for the work of living problematic artists (ex: JK Rowling; no one likes her, but people are understandably nostalgic for a dear childhood book) When it becomes an issue is when problem artists are alive and profit from fans, regardless of ‘separation.’ Like with Rowling, she for sure still makes money from Universal Studios and whatever official merch is bought. This is a problem, as she has admitted to being a lobbyist for anti-trans legislation in Britain. Now, I’m not saying you should pirate the works of problematic artists. I’m just saying you should pirate from problematic artists, in minecraft.
@@ri0tgh0ooul89 im not really bothered by her opinion she is a turff thats her opinion. im indifferent to it i dont hate her because i dont know her due to me not basing my personality on politics. but thats just me
@@deatheater10879I feel like the biggest problem with your mindset is that people will tend to push their ideals or political labels into coming true. This isn’t just JK Rowling going “I personally think trans women aren’t actual women.” This is a person who will go out of her way to spend hundreds of thousands (of millions!) of dollars that people give her to fund anti-trans charities. She’s made it clear that she will go out of her way to try and hurt trans women with the thought that they’re men going into women’s spaces. It’s more than just an opinion at that point. It’s a political stance that she has
Even if I’m not a furry I’ll never forget hearing that audio of Jasonafex and his girlfriend attempting to gaslight their roommate because he had enough of them mooching off him for a home and rightfully told them to leave.
@@He-who-wakesyeah but ones a pedo child abuser who openly bragged and drew pron of ruining a kids life and hurts others for pleasure Jason should be in prison…
@@hedgehogpower194I personally don't feel like that guy is terrible, just misguided at the time, but basically they let the guy grope jasonafex's gf, because they felt sorry for him being a virgin, so he misread the situation and tried to sleep with her, of course she denied and that lead to the VC.
I hate that most bad apples are also the loudest. People like this make groups get bad reps. On top of that I don't understand how people like this aren't locked up yet.
Because while u may make up excuses MOST of the furry community ARE bad people I could give u a video example but usually I’m attacked for it lol U can’t deny the furry fandom as a whole is fucked nit to mention people like Jason are funded by big furry tech…
There's A LOT of bad eggs in the fur fandom and it's pretty damn frustrating. I've been a furry for 18, almost 19 years and I remember when the fandom was a lot more.. light-hearted and friendly, now it just feels like everyone's constantly at each other's throats, attacking each other over meaningless things while letting people like Jasonafex/Kabier, Kero, Zaush and so much more get away with their horrid crimes. It's fucking disgusting how the fandom is now and it's why I kinda just.. cut myself away from it and keep contact with just my friends/very, very few groups.
@@jancana I know, just saying that you cannot excuse her actions over it. She's just as much of an abuser as a victim and it's.. sad. I genuinely wonder if she had broken off her relationship with Jasonafex early on, would she had ended up like she had?
Let’s not forget that Jason and Kabs made a comic featuring Kabs’ sona getting railed by a feral shiba inu suspiciously right after they got their shiba inu irl. 🤮
It's honestly a shame how The Duckshack is between two creeps, because it looks so well animated... then again, it's probably just the mouth movements, IDK.
I’ve seen glimpses of the cuckshack it’s actually really bad not even mouth movements are good it’s them just visibly manipulating animations like Jason does when he steals art
I should try to avoid these people at all cost as an artist who draws furry characters and as an upcoming world builder myself. My will and sanity is very important.
I believe the furry community, like any other, faces its own set of challenges. However, addressing problematic individuals within it proves to be more complex than anticipated. I do agree that those who engage in harmful behavior should be removed from the community. The difficulty lies in awareness; many are unaware of these issues until they are brought to light through discussions or media exposure. Personally, I wasn't fully aware of the extent of these problems until others informed me or I encountered videos of what these people have done.
I think for the furry community especially it’s probably the hardest to get rid of the evil members of the fandom. Everyone hates the AltFurs, yet they’re those who defend the cub artists, pedos and especially the zoophiles.
There is a known zoophile who runs a furry convention. They are pretty quick to spread who isn't a good person. They are slow to removing the person because that just goes against how a lot of furries want to be and that's accepting of everyone.
Lol, all the commenters saying - "what a shame the furry fandom have some bad apples" Dude... The furry fandom is literally just zoo-philia drawn porn-ography. "feral" and "best iality" are huge searchable categories on Furaffinity, e621, furrybooru, Inkbunny, Sofurry etc. So everywhere. They are all zoo-philes. This is no different from all loli/shota fans being pedos... All furries are evil people.
(not so) Fun fact: David & Liz Lillie who make the Dreamkeepers webcomic regularly got tables at Anthrocon for 6 years straight. Then Dave asked the organizers if they could run a background check for convicted child sex offenders among the con staff, since the organizers had announced that they wanted to include more all-ages events. Coincidentally, they could not get a table anywhere except Megaplex afterwards.
they get to much attention and thats why they are such a huge Problem, it doesnt matter what type of attantion if good or bad, without it, they would be weak and powerless, just a grain in a dessert
I have a popular artist friend who keeps on getting into drama because he draws feral art (not porn) and it pisses me off that he gets shit on when people like this exist
That’s just sad, if he’s not making porn with the characters then there’s no reason to be on his ass about it. People need to understand that drawing feral ≠ drawing feral porn. (Deadass curious on who the artist is, because I want to show him some support cause no one deserves harassment over something harmless as just drawing sfw feral art, while we have fuckers like these two running amuck.)
Because Jason gets his child bride to draw “art” for pedos and zoophiles while your friend doesint give that Jason’s also being funded by big furry tech…
@@tapesaucer He's lying silly. "Feral" is a furry porn art classification. Normal people drawing non-pornographic animals just say "they are drawing animals".
I think the craziest part is that Peace Wolf also abandoned the adoptive child she and Fox had. It's clear where her priorities are if she wasn't fighting to take custody of the kid, but instead to run away with her precious degens
It really sucks seeing horrible creatures, have such amazing talent. And it's not only in the furry community, it's everywhere. Take Dan Shnider, creator of many kids shows for example. It's just so depressing... Edit: also ironic that "peace"wolf insists on being called that, despite the complete opposite of peace. Disgusting
Thats usually with the art community, ive dealt with my fair share of absolutely mental people and i can say the most talented and devoted artists are the most vile Thats why i think ai art is better than human art xd
I use to be within Jasonafex's Discord and watch him on Twitch, but stopped once I heard what he and his gf said to their roommate, then a lot of other things that came out. I wont lie I did enjoy watching him on Twitch, and some of the things with the group but that will remain in the pass.
So with the foxglove and peacewolf thing. I dont like these people at all but its been suggested that Peacewolf made up or exaggerated a lot of the story between her and her husband. Like for example peacewolf got foxglove into the furry fandom AFTER they were married. So how could he have groomed her into a fiction furry girl if he wasnt even into that yet. Things like that. But other than that great video!
@@FFI.16 just for your info: a ! infront of a FA username means banned account. they whiped most of his NSFW stuff as well. so yeah: you say hes still up while actually showing that hes in fact banned. edit: this was written in response to the zaush part but jason and kabs got banned at the same time and you can see the ! in the jason segment as well when the FA screenshot is shown.
@@FFI.16 noproblems. jason, zaush peacewolf and kobs got banned there at the same time btw. you even see the bann mark in the jason part when you show the sreenshot of his account.
There's a reason that I simply don't have any social media or any real social links whatsoever while in the fandom. Even if I buy a fursuit, it's unlikely I'll even really publicize my fursona in any form of media aside from maybe a discord chat. The way this fandom is, it's batshit crazy, and I'd rather not deal with the people who take much use of the internet in it, especially not the political ones who are 90% nutcases 💀 The Jasonafex case all the way to many others just convinces me I shouldn't really even get involved in being publicized or having a name in the fandom, I'd rather be that super elusive g-man in the background with a really well-made fursuit and character. That way, I don't even unknowingly have to keep contacts with people who are actually fucked up. That being said, the fandom isn't any different than the rest of the world now, it's not even an escape route like it was 10-20 years ago for people.
The SFW subreddits are really chill, and the fursuit ones gave me good advice. Smaller discord servers I found are also really chill. I am in a few furry discord servers, mainly ones of small RUclipsrs, and it's mostly just memes. I am also active in a state level furry server. It's mainly just people chatting, nothing really to furry happening.
Hiya! I have a feral fursona. Having a feral fursona does not immediately mean someone is into animals or draws feral porn. I personally think it’s fucking disgusting. My fursona is just feral because it fits into their lore. My sona is not an anthropomorphized animal, it is literally just an animal (technically they’re a cryptid but I’m not going to lore dump on you). And I treat it as such. It’s really not weird !
I admit I respect the furry community because of their work. I had friend who is part of it and he makes costumes of his furry character and omg they are amazing. Its sucks that people see the furry community in a bad light because of people like them.
You answered your own question as to why people continue to support these creeps: *They don't care.* Same as for video games, players don't care the dev company is involved in some shady sexual harassment stuff at the workplace or abused employees with crunch and/or bad living conditions, they just want to play the game and none of that affects them personally.
I've been a furry since I was 18, and a certain comic that I read about known as Fur-Piled was like a revelation to me. It helped me accept myself fully when I was having doubts about my sexuality in the past due to school bullies and some members of the family. Though, to this day, I kept my orientation identity and membership of the fandom from all around me irl a secret, including my family, to avoid a horrible reaction from them and the bad label that follows after. Since then, my only goal in the fandom is finding good circles to be in, make tons of friends, all in search for the right crowd to be in. So far, it's been nothing but a battle all around shifting from uphill to downhill and vice-versa. What I've learned is that the fandom is nothing but a popularity contest no matter where you look. Extending bridges to others was never this complicated. Nowadays, I see furries befriending each other because money was exchanged. Friendship is mostly "bought" instead of "built" on faith, trust, and (pixie dust lol kidding) loyalty. And majority rather keep supporting those who are already sitting on a high pedestal while the underdog (I count myself umong them) struggles to obtain even a fraction of what they have. Nobody gives the same amount of love to one who has nothing compared to someone who has everything. The Furry Community is not so different than society itself in the real world. And to think the fandom, just like the world of gaming, was an escape to get away... Not if it's filled with horrible individuals like these two.
I have to say that when it comes to Zaush. Hearing this now, it seems like the ultimate testament of separating the art from the artist. As well as many other talented artist that happen to be terrible people.
As someone within this.. *fucked* community, it’s good to see someone shedding light on it, there are truly some monsters behind those suits and Internet personalities, and I should know because I’ve had to deal with a ton of them. In any case, this was a great video and I’d be happy to see you continue your work!
I've had a couple furry friends most self imploded into mania due to their own problems often deleting their socials and burning any bridges they built with others.
This is old news at this point. Time to change the channel. *BZZT* I was actually hoping to hear some new information, you know, someone I haven't heard about. As it turns out, Zaush and Jasonafex are trash. Nobody talks about the amount of people who were let down and disappointed by them. For them, though, they will always have their communities. There are always people who are going to be attractive to them because they are disgusting people. So let them be disgusting. The furry community is a strong community filled with interesting and talented people. Let's go support them.
I know Fursonas have nothing to do with the Persona franchise but everytime i hear the term i always say it in a Joker voice like "Fursona!" and i find that just hilarious
Yeah, how else do you think they afford a $3000 fursuit. Most, like me, just see it as a hobby where you can pretend your problems don't exist for a bit, where you can be silly, have fun and act like a moron with others. Having fun and being silly can be enjoyed by anyone of any age.
He’s also being funded by big furry tech and has his own website now where he sells overpriced trash merch I’d like to know if I can get that site deleted off the internet…
@@trashypunkman7559 lol anyways if u do t mind I’d appreciate anyone’s help willing to out these deranged psychopaths we can’t just keep complaining and NOT do anything about it what’s stopping people from giving cops these pieces of evidence and having him sent to prison?
About the child thing. Every website should have a "no public account child library" tos line That links to a q a with the following: Can i post pictures of my children on here? Yes, but only if the account is set on private or friends only. Will i get problems if i post it publicly? Yes, account will be set to private you will be notified via email. Will i get a second chance after it happened? Yes, the second time it will be a 7 day ban and account set to private A third time will result in an IP/hardware ban Why all of this for pictures of children? The internet is full of people that " love" them, in a "special" way. For more info about this " special way" : links to the wikipedia article about it. Probably will be impossible to enforce unless the users actively report it and not abuse it
>Game devs were getting paid $2 an hour >Had to sleep in horrible conditions Am i suppose to feel bad about this? Maybe don't take a job for 2 bucks an hour for work that pays 30 minimum. How stupid can you possibly be? You cant find an entry level job that pays triple that and move out?
I didn't believe a thing Peacewolf says. She says she has proof of what happened but yet she didn't show ANY of it..just telling a story with cringe art.
@@MyMika2004 I don't know anything about him but evidence is still needed or it's just heresy, if she has proof and says she has evidence but doesn't prove it; it's still okay to have disbelief.
So that familiar raptor I saw from time to time was Zaush, idk if he’s truly Australian but if he is I’m disappointed as an Australian myself this was just disgusting
8:28 please call it by its actual name: CSAM/CSEM The importance of calling it CSAM/CSEM over CP is 2fold-it doesn’t demonize **actual** 18+ content/SWers **AND*** very importantly it doesn’t equate **evidence of abuse** with healthy/consensual content, putting at the front that this is **abuse** and that the kids were harmed
I have a friend who was groomed into doing some bad stuff, and then was thrown under the bus by the individual who groomed him. For his own protection, I won’t provide his name.
@@FFI.16 GaroShadowScale (if I remember correctly) is a content creator most known for his authoritarian personality cult. That guy was already dismantled sometime ago, but it would be nice to see your opinion on the subject!
"this probably break some kind of law or rule on the website" oh my sweet summer child... if you knew the kind of shit the owner of FA used to cover (if he still dont cover , im not on that hellhole anymore)
Bro, I don't know what happened. I swear I was subbed to your channel, but anywho, I'm subbed again. Keep up the great work! EDIT: The CoD music in the background is making me feel some type of way
Regarding the Zaush situation, with the exception of using real life images, I wouldn't cast him out over something petty as an idea being expressed through fiction. Your concern is basically, "Other people will become bad if this one person expresses this idea." You shouldn't throw baby out with the bathwater. Instead of wanting Zaush to stop expressing ideas, it's more sustainable to hold people responsible for taking fiction into reality by acting on it. Otherwise, you'll just create an authoritarian state that is against ideas. There's no one being harmed with his fictional artworks. That warrants him deserving peace and not hate.
Even though the video is about 2 (well, 3 techically) people. The negative impact it leaves feels like you've been like inside a huge group of furries of "that type" and being exposed to all going on in it makes you feel deeply dusturbed afterwards
Look I enjoy nsfw content but I actually make sure the person isn't a pedo or creep or groomer as it makes me sick knowing people like this live and the fact one use to live in my backyard Australia makes me even more concerned and sick
Damn what was that song in that introduction you did. That shit sounded nice. Also yikes for each of these infamous individuals, it sucks how many still can flourish despite their actions and behavior.
The first guy is honestly someone i fw art wise back then, had no idea what he was doing since his success with his one comic and game was so much, though after seeing this, i feel shame for him, fell from such a high grace just like so many others. Our community is falling apart
I didn’t know about these two and the issue until now. For this, I am gonna stay away from these creations. I’m also gonna get rid of Amorus. Also, I can think of a few pony lovers since I am a Brony. Grew up with that show with siblings. Good times.
@@FFI.16 A few bad or saddening artists I can think of is ToonKritic, James animated, and MandoPony. If you want to go for a non-artist on murder, you can look into a person named Brandon Hole. If this isn’t enough, I can actually look online into more to help.
I thought cub content was just bears play with their cubs I didn't understand how bad it was until you really told me and now I'm even more upset with my community😢
There's an old saying that states "separate the art from the aritist" but, as part of the fandom and being what these people have done , I feel I cannot do that.
I feel like that only works for problematic, but dead artists and/or consuming fanworks or having nostalgia for the work of living problematic artists (ex: JK Rowling; no one likes her, but people are understandably nostalgic for a dear childhood book)
When it becomes an issue is when problem artists are alive and profit from fans, regardless of ‘separation.’ Like with Rowling, she for sure still makes money from Universal Studios and whatever official merch is bought. This is a problem, as she has admitted to being a lobbyist for anti-trans legislation in Britain.
Now, I’m not saying you should pirate the works of problematic artists. I’m just saying you should pirate from problematic artists, in minecraft.
There comes a point where you just shouldn't support someone, no matter how much you like their work.
well at least they are banned now from FA.
@@ri0tgh0ooul89 im not really bothered by her opinion she is a turff thats her opinion. im indifferent to it i dont hate her because i dont know her due to me not basing my personality on politics. but thats just me
@@deatheater10879I feel like the biggest problem with your mindset is that people will tend to push their ideals or political labels into coming true. This isn’t just JK Rowling going “I personally think trans women aren’t actual women.” This is a person who will go out of her way to spend hundreds of thousands (of millions!) of dollars that people give her to fund anti-trans charities. She’s made it clear that she will go out of her way to try and hurt trans women with the thought that they’re men going into women’s spaces. It’s more than just an opinion at that point. It’s a political stance that she has
Even if I’m not a furry I’ll never forget hearing that audio of Jasonafex and his girlfriend attempting to gaslight their roommate because he had enough of them mooching off him for a home and rightfully told them to leave.
Everyone involved in that are awful tbf
@@He-who-wakesyeah but ones a pedo child abuser who openly bragged and drew pron of ruining a kids life and hurts others for pleasure Jason should be in prison…
Why the victim? @@He-who-wakes
@hedgehogpower194 cause his stupid ass decided to move two known freaks into his house and was surprised when Said freaks tried to screw him over
@@hedgehogpower194I personally don't feel like that guy is terrible, just misguided at the time, but basically they let the guy grope jasonafex's gf, because they felt sorry for him being a virgin, so he misread the situation and tried to sleep with her, of course she denied and that lead to the VC.
I hate that most bad apples are also the loudest. People like this make groups get bad reps. On top of that I don't understand how people like this aren't locked up yet.
Because while u may make up excuses MOST of the furry community ARE bad people I could give u a video example but usually I’m attacked for it lol
U can’t deny the furry fandom as a whole is fucked nit to mention people like Jason are funded by big furry tech…
Almost all furries are autistic members of the LGBTQ community, that's why.
These are called vocal minorities
@@tapesaucer Lol, It's a majority of furries.
They are all zoo-philes.
@@tapesaucer and yet these people NEVER get arrested
There's A LOT of bad eggs in the fur fandom and it's pretty damn frustrating. I've been a furry for 18, almost 19 years and I remember when the fandom was a lot more.. light-hearted and friendly, now it just feels like everyone's constantly at each other's throats, attacking each other over meaningless things while letting people like Jasonafex/Kabier, Kero, Zaush and so much more get away with their horrid crimes. It's fucking disgusting how the fandom is now and it's why I kinda just.. cut myself away from it and keep contact with just my friends/very, very few groups.
Very unfortunate
Let's not forget, Jason groomed Kaiber.
@@jancana Yup, still doesn't excuse Kaiber's behaviour, though.
@@MysticalGoatKnight this was a fact, not an excuse.
@@jancana I know, just saying that you cannot excuse her actions over it. She's just as much of an abuser as a victim and it's.. sad. I genuinely wonder if she had broken off her relationship with Jasonafex early on, would she had ended up like she had?
Let’s not forget that Jason and Kabs made a comic featuring Kabs’ sona getting railed by a feral shiba inu suspiciously right after they got their shiba inu irl. 🤮
What the hell
Someone get that Shiba away from them.
I’m not gonna share the name of it for obvious reasons but just know that it’s some really vile shit.
From what I found out their Shiba Inu died a few years ago of kidney failure most likely from forced “penetration”…
@@michaelbecket4901 Justice for the Shiba, my homie didn’t deserve to go through that shit.
It's honestly a shame how The Duckshack is between two creeps, because it looks so well animated... then again, it's probably just the mouth movements, IDK.
I’m sure there are some more well animated than the “Duck Shack”
@@FFI.16 Good point. I should probably look up some of those better animated furry talk shows... if there are any. I hope there are.
I’ve seen glimpses of the cuckshack it’s actually really bad not even mouth movements are good it’s them just visibly manipulating animations like Jason does when he steals art
I should try to avoid these people at all cost as an artist who draws furry characters and as an upcoming world builder myself. My will and sanity is very important.
Then be better than Zaush
You're not going anywhere with those cave scrawlings trust me.
I’d rather people report them for their crimes
Dude... you're literally part of an artistic community that revolves around sexualizing animals lol.
@@TwistedFireX it’s called improving, duh.
I believe the furry community, like any other, faces its own set of challenges. However, addressing problematic individuals within it proves to be more complex than anticipated. I do agree that those who engage in harmful behavior should be removed from the community. The difficulty lies in awareness; many are unaware of these issues until they are brought to light through discussions or media exposure. Personally, I wasn't fully aware of the extent of these problems until others informed me or I encountered videos of what these people have done.
I think for the furry community especially it’s probably the hardest to get rid of the evil members of the fandom. Everyone hates the AltFurs, yet they’re those who defend the cub artists, pedos and especially the zoophiles.
There is a known zoophile who runs a furry convention. They are pretty quick to spread who isn't a good person. They are slow to removing the person because that just goes against how a lot of furries want to be and that's accepting of everyone.
Lol, all the commenters saying -
"what a shame the furry fandom have some bad apples"
Dude...
The furry fandom is literally just zoo-philia drawn porn-ography.
"feral" and "best iality" are huge searchable categories on
Furaffinity, e621, furrybooru, Inkbunny, Sofurry etc.
So everywhere. They are all zoo-philes.
This is no different from all loli/shota fans being pedos...
All furries are evil people.
(not so) Fun fact: David & Liz Lillie who make the Dreamkeepers webcomic regularly got tables at Anthrocon for 6 years straight. Then Dave asked the organizers if they could run a background check for convicted child sex offenders among the con staff, since the organizers had announced that they wanted to include more all-ages events. Coincidentally, they could not get a table anywhere except Megaplex afterwards.
they get to much attention and thats why they are such a huge Problem, it doesnt matter what type of attantion if good or bad, without it, they would be weak and powerless, just a grain in a dessert
Zaush 🤝 Vaush
(Liking miners and horses)
MONK PFP
Oh no they like miners
(Jk ik what you mean, they are f*cking disgusting)
Whats the name of artist on your photo ?
That's funny how similar their names are
I have a popular artist friend who keeps on getting into drama because he draws feral art (not porn) and it pisses me off that he gets shit on when people like this exist
That’s just sad, if he’s not making porn with the characters then there’s no reason to be on his ass about it.
People need to understand that drawing feral ≠ drawing feral porn.
(Deadass curious on who the artist is, because I want to show him some support cause no one deserves harassment over something harmless as just drawing sfw feral art, while we have fuckers like these two running amuck.)
Because Jason gets his child bride to draw “art” for pedos and zoophiles while your friend doesint give that Jason’s also being funded by big furry tech…
So he's a zoophile that draws feral porn...
Dude...
You and your friend have serious issues.
@@BumboLooks read the comment again, he said "(not porn)"
@@tapesaucer He's lying silly. "Feral" is a furry porn art classification.
Normal people drawing non-pornographic animals just say "they are drawing animals".
I feel like calling Jason an artist is an insult to all actual artists
I think the craziest part is that Peace Wolf also abandoned the adoptive child she and Fox had. It's clear where her priorities are if she wasn't fighting to take custody of the kid, but instead to run away with her precious degens
It really sucks seeing horrible creatures, have such amazing talent. And it's not only in the furry community, it's everywhere. Take Dan Shnider, creator of many kids shows for example. It's just so depressing...
Edit: also ironic that "peace"wolf insists on being called that, despite the complete opposite of peace. Disgusting
What talent? Jason steals his art and labs was only good when she was young and has actually gotten a bit worse in the years for working with the pedo
Those horrible creatures unfortunately, do this to gain motivation and power for their production.
@@PoorDog69 I say we all spam their crimes all around the internet
Thats usually with the art community, ive dealt with my fair share of absolutely mental people and i can say the most talented and devoted artists are the most vile
Thats why i think ai art is better than human art xd
I'm someone who's perfectly able to separate arts from artists, doesn't stop me from despising these kinds of people.
Your still giving them an audience, that mentality doesn't work bruh
I use to be within Jasonafex's Discord and watch him on Twitch, but stopped once I heard what he and his gf said to their roommate, then a lot of other things that came out.
I wont lie I did enjoy watching him on Twitch, and some of the things with the group but that will remain in the pass.
If only he acted more appropriately
@@FFI.16 Yeah and didn't do many other things that he has done, but sadly that's the kind of world we live in.
@@helxeen2607and u people didint report him to authorities… why?
So with the foxglove and peacewolf thing. I dont like these people at all but its been suggested that Peacewolf made up or exaggerated a lot of the story between her and her husband.
Like for example peacewolf got foxglove into the furry fandom AFTER they were married. So how could he have groomed her into a fiction furry girl if he wasnt even into that yet.
Things like that. But other than that great video!
I kinda thought the same thing when I heard him say M’lady
Fox was still weird but like yeah no the fact that Peacewolf seemed to divorce Fox over a fucking online personality test.
@@FFI.16 just for your info: a ! infront of a FA username means banned account. they whiped most of his NSFW stuff as well. so yeah: you say hes still up while actually showing that hes in fact banned. edit: this was written in response to the zaush part but jason and kabs got banned at the same time and you can see the ! in the jason segment as well when the FA screenshot is shown.
Oh I didn’t know that thank you for telling me
@@FFI.16 noproblems. jason, zaush peacewolf and kobs got banned there at the same time btw. you even see the bann mark in the jason part when you show the sreenshot of his account.
So fucking entertaining! You’re hearing that from someone with ADHD. I usually find long form videos boring but this isn’t.
Oh wow thank you
Same!
Same
There's a reason that I simply don't have any social media or any real social links whatsoever while in the fandom. Even if I buy a fursuit, it's unlikely I'll even really publicize my fursona in any form of media aside from maybe a discord chat. The way this fandom is, it's batshit crazy, and I'd rather not deal with the people who take much use of the internet in it, especially not the political ones who are 90% nutcases 💀
The Jasonafex case all the way to many others just convinces me I shouldn't really even get involved in being publicized or having a name in the fandom, I'd rather be that super elusive g-man in the background with a really well-made fursuit and character. That way, I don't even unknowingly have to keep contacts with people who are actually fucked up. That being said, the fandom isn't any different than the rest of the world now, it's not even an escape route like it was 10-20 years ago for people.
The SFW subreddits are really chill, and the fursuit ones gave me good advice. Smaller discord servers I found are also really chill. I am in a few furry discord servers, mainly ones of small RUclipsrs, and it's mostly just memes. I am also active in a state level furry server. It's mainly just people chatting, nothing really to furry happening.
10:41 And its even worse because their fursona's are feral 🤦
feral is fine
😭✋bro what
There's an artist that draws feral images, he was arrested *aheming* his dog
@@K0R4UPT_N01Z3 Womp womp
Hiya! I have a feral fursona. Having a feral fursona does not immediately mean someone is into animals or draws feral porn. I personally think it’s fucking disgusting. My fursona is just feral because it fits into their lore. My sona is not an anthropomorphized animal, it is literally just an animal (technically they’re a cryptid but I’m not going to lore dump on you). And I treat it as such. It’s really not weird !
Jasonafex has to left feet at 1:53 and it bothers me deeply
I also focus on feet when I see a character
I thought there was something wrong, but I couldn't put my finger on it.
wait til you notice the jiggle bones in his animations.
@@VampireBatLordI’d insist on checking out zonkpunch or dagasi now THOSE are good artists
@@FFI.16 same, idk why
I admit I respect the furry community because of their work. I had friend who is part of it and he makes costumes of his furry character and omg they are amazing. Its sucks that people see the furry community in a bad light because of people like them.
Hate to tell ya man but MOST of the furry community are genuinely awful people for example… ruclips.net/video/43c2GQkQpAE/видео.html
I've never met a normal furry in my live. Sorry. They're always arkward and weird people.
You answered your own question as to why people continue to support these creeps: *They don't care.*
Same as for video games, players don't care the dev company is involved in some shady sexual harassment stuff at the workplace or abused employees with crunch and/or bad living conditions, they just want to play the game and none of that affects them personally.
Truth
I don't support him and I'm a furry
I've been a furry since I was 18, and a certain comic that I read about known as Fur-Piled was like a revelation to me. It helped me accept myself fully when I was having doubts about my sexuality in the past due to school bullies and some members of the family. Though, to this day, I kept my orientation identity and membership of the fandom from all around me irl a secret, including my family, to avoid a horrible reaction from them and the bad label that follows after.
Since then, my only goal in the fandom is finding good circles to be in, make tons of friends, all in search for the right crowd to be in. So far, it's been nothing but a battle all around shifting from uphill to downhill and vice-versa. What I've learned is that the fandom is nothing but a popularity contest no matter where you look. Extending bridges to others was never this complicated. Nowadays, I see furries befriending each other because money was exchanged. Friendship is mostly "bought" instead of "built" on faith, trust, and (pixie dust lol kidding) loyalty. And majority rather keep supporting those who are already sitting on a high pedestal while the underdog (I count myself umong them) struggles to obtain even a fraction of what they have. Nobody gives the same amount of love to one who has nothing compared to someone who has everything. The Furry Community is not so different than society itself in the real world. And to think the fandom, just like the world of gaming, was an escape to get away... Not if it's filled with horrible individuals like these two.
I have to say that when it comes to Zaush. Hearing this now, it seems like the ultimate testament of separating the art from the artist. As well as many other talented artist that happen to be terrible people.
Like that german guy
@@FFI.16 He was Austrian
Time to give it a watch.
Thanks for always making the vidoes entertaining!
Its my pleasure
@@FFI.16your pleasure to exposing these people and making them more known. Shame on them!
@@Bloodsumeand yet people refuse to report them… why?
This pfp goes unfanthomably hard
As someone within this.. *fucked* community, it’s good to see someone shedding light on it, there are truly some monsters behind those suits and Internet personalities, and I should know because I’ve had to deal with a ton of them.
In any case, this was a great video and I’d be happy to see you continue your work!
Thank you
I've had a couple furry friends most self imploded into mania due to their own problems often deleting their socials and burning any bridges they built with others.
Thats not a very good thing to do
This is old news at this point.
Time to change the channel. *BZZT*
I was actually hoping to hear some new information, you know, someone I haven't heard about. As it turns out, Zaush and Jasonafex are trash. Nobody talks about the amount of people who were let down and disappointed by them. For them, though, they will always have their communities. There are always people who are going to be attractive to them because they are disgusting people. So let them be disgusting.
The furry community is a strong community filled with interesting and talented people. Let's go support them.
at 0:50 the Tarkov OST got me off guard and made me think "has my tarkov been open this whole time"
I know Fursonas have nothing to do with the Persona franchise but everytime i hear the term i always say it in a Joker voice like "Fursona!" and i find that just hilarious
i swear half of these furries are grown ass men with beards and women
Yeah, how else do you think they afford a $3000 fursuit. Most, like me, just see it as a hobby where you can pretend your problems don't exist for a bit, where you can be silly, have fun and act like a moron with others. Having fun and being silly can be enjoyed by anyone of any age.
@@Construct_the_protogen in a way it just causes more problems
I've told people Jasonafex is a groomer. Feel free to free-load his game, but for the love of Lupa, don't give the predator any money.
Are any of his games even good?
@@trashypunkman7559lol no
He’s also being funded by big furry tech and has his own website now where he sells overpriced trash merch I’d like to know if I can get that site deleted off the internet…
@@michaelbecket4901 Tbh thats what I expected lol
@@trashypunkman7559 lol anyways if u do t mind I’d appreciate anyone’s help willing to out these deranged psychopaths we can’t just keep complaining and NOT do anything about it what’s stopping people from giving cops these pieces of evidence and having him sent to prison?
your choise of music and the editing style is just on point, love you content
Thanks
rest in peace Dragoneer🙏
About the child thing.
Every website should have a
"no public account child library" tos line
That links to a q a with the following:
Can i post pictures of my children on here?
Yes, but only if the account is set on private or friends only.
Will i get problems if i post it publicly?
Yes, account will be set to private you will be notified via email.
Will i get a second chance after it happened?
Yes, the second time it will be a 7 day ban and account set to private
A third time will result in an IP/hardware ban
Why all of this for pictures of children?
The internet is full of people that " love" them, in a "special" way.
For more info about this " special way" : links to the wikipedia article about it.
Probably will be impossible to enforce unless the users actively report it and not abuse it
Id argue parents should just monitor kids better- the internet shouldn’t have to parent them or dull itself cause parents won’t learn better
Continue with this type of content mate.
Sure thing mate
Bro the music you use for your videos HITS
I try to find the best songs to use
the opening song is rules for engagement escape from tarkov ost
>Game devs were getting paid $2 an hour
>Had to sleep in horrible conditions
Am i suppose to feel bad about this? Maybe don't take a job for 2 bucks an hour for work that pays 30 minimum. How stupid can you possibly be? You cant find an entry level job that pays triple that and move out?
I didn't believe a thing Peacewolf says. She says she has proof of what happened but yet she didn't show ANY of it..just telling a story with cringe art.
from what we've seen of foxglove, it wouldnt surprise me
@@MyMika2004
I don't know anything about him but evidence is still needed or it's just heresy, if she has proof and says she has evidence but doesn't prove it; it's still okay to have disbelief.
you know its serious when my manz pull out the EFT music
2:00 that still the owner didn’t age well
"Infamous" is a stretch because i had no idea these people existed until people started making videos about them
Would you say those videos caused them to gain infamy?
@@FFI.16 yea that makes sense, I may be dumb
lol it’s okay
So that familiar raptor I saw from time to time was Zaush, idk if he’s truly Australian but if he is I’m disappointed as an Australian myself this was just disgusting
8:28 please call it by its actual name: CSAM/CSEM
The importance of calling it CSAM/CSEM over CP is 2fold-it doesn’t demonize **actual** 18+ content/SWers **AND*** very importantly it doesn’t equate **evidence of abuse** with healthy/consensual content, putting at the front that this is **abuse** and that the kids were harmed
Well I wasn't expecting Tarkov music in a furry callout video but I'll take it.
It's kinda underrated
This is so interesting to watch, and fulls me of rage why people like that exists, stay safe and nice vid
Thanks
@@FFI.16 Nw ^^!
im just a furret on a tank, thats it
FFI I appreciate your documentaries so much as they shed a lot of light in dark areas of the world. Yet again another masterpiece.
I appreciate your comment
He missed many things but it’s still a pretty great watch
I'm a little slow, what is "Duck Holding" ?
Based off your pfp its something you will learn about when your older don't worry about it
@@FFI.16My pfp has been this since 2013.
@@jmgruleI think the u in duck is supposed to be replaced by an i
@@rickdingenenzo oh. Thanks.
Bro that’s not what it means 😂
Jasonafex also stole some of the charater (ik of one at least so far) in amorous and is profiting off of it
Not surprised
9:43 made me scream and fall of my chair
why that picture
Spooky
This is the Shadman situation all over again? Why make real children as reference for NSFW art?
Idk their very strange and creepy
@FFI.16 I mean, imo, the whole cub/loli porn art is fine as long as the artist isn't harming anyone, but goddamn the these people
What
@@FFI.16 ?
That’s a crazy statement you just made brother
I have a friend who was groomed into doing some bad stuff, and then was thrown under the bus by the individual who groomed him. For his own protection, I won’t provide his name.
Thats terrible
Why does that minecraft music work so well with this? godamn
bro casually putting on the tarkov menu song (the hardest thing known to man)
It is fire
Once again, AN AMAZING VIDEO!!!! keep up the great work
Thank you ice king
do you support the good people in the fandom?
Yes
lets not forget garo 🙏
Garo?
@@FFI.16 garo shadowscale. a narcissistic bitch to the point hes a cult leader
@@FFI.16 GaroShadowScale (if I remember correctly) is a content creator most known for his authoritarian personality cult. That guy was already dismantled sometime ago, but it would be nice to see your opinion on the subject!
@@pozhiloy_d-class5192 It would probably be cults are bad lol
Everyone shut up FFI just uploaded
"this probably break some kind of law or rule on the website"
oh my sweet summer child... if you knew the kind of shit the owner of FA used to cover (if he still dont cover , im not on that hellhole anymore)
I really don’t know 😂
Maybe we should try reporting them?
100-300 is crazy when there’s a lot of extremely good artists you can find who won’t go over but deserve that much, support smaller artists!!!!
Bro, I don't know what happened. I swear I was subbed to your channel, but anywho, I'm subbed again. Keep up the great work!
EDIT: The CoD music in the background is making me feel some type of way
rip dragoneer
It's also sad that some artists would use A.I and profit from that instead of drawing it by hand.
Regarding the Zaush situation, with the exception of using real life images, I wouldn't cast him out over something petty as an idea being expressed through fiction. Your concern is basically, "Other people will become bad if this one person expresses this idea." You shouldn't throw baby out with the bathwater. Instead of wanting Zaush to stop expressing ideas, it's more sustainable to hold people responsible for taking fiction into reality by acting on it. Otherwise, you'll just create an authoritarian state that is against ideas.
There's no one being harmed with his fictional artworks. That warrants him deserving peace and not hate.
Thank you for informing us!
np
Even though the video is about 2 (well, 3 techically) people. The negative impact it leaves feels like you've been like inside a huge group of furries of "that type" and being exposed to all going on in it makes you feel deeply dusturbed afterwards
It’s sad that furries art is only popular among people out of the community when it’s bad or puts furries in a bad light
Look I enjoy nsfw content but I actually make sure the person isn't a pedo or creep or groomer as it makes me sick knowing people like this live and the fact one use to live in my backyard Australia makes me even more concerned and sick
It's disappointing some of the artists i used to like are such scummy people
And I am the weirdo for basically having one of my telegram stickers of my character dressed up like Chris Henson saying "why don't you have a seat"
Damn what was that song in that introduction you did. That shit sounded nice.
Also yikes for each of these infamous individuals, it sucks how many still can flourish despite their actions and behavior.
I saw a couple other comments say the song is from the escape from tarkov ost
Its called rules of engagement
@FFI.16 thanks broski 👌
The first guy is honestly someone i fw art wise back then, had no idea what he was doing since his success with his one comic and game was so much, though after seeing this, i feel shame for him, fell from such a high grace just like so many others. Our community is falling apart
I just have to say it was extremely weird hearing the tarkov soundtrack really loudly in the background of my gameplay
Jeez man your intro song sounds like all the linkin park songs played at the same time
ive been in the fandom since I was 11, im 19 now and honestly im surprised how tf there’s so many BAD people
Good LORD!!!! That drop!!! 1:03
Using the Nether music from Minecraft is a real banger
I didn’t know about these two and the issue until now. For this, I am gonna stay away from these creations. I’m also gonna get rid of Amorus. Also, I can think of a few pony lovers since I am a Brony. Grew up with that show with siblings. Good times.
Please let me know about the ones you know
@@FFI.16 A few bad or saddening artists I can think of is ToonKritic, James animated, and MandoPony. If you want to go for a non-artist on murder, you can look into a person named Brandon Hole.
If this isn’t enough, I can actually look online into more to help.
Oh fuck yeah! Thanks for telling us the outdo song bro
somebody should become a member 🥲🥲
As a furry artist. I’m all about that bag
Get it
Snowball looks so cute lol xD
Yes he is
J and k whole story is wild especially the one where they get mad just for being asked to pay rent
My spiritual animal is a capybara
THAT INTRO MUSIC IS FIRE WTF?!?!
that tarkov music fooled me for a bit lol
I just looked up Jasonafex, and that green OC of his seems to reflect his personality. I think the OC’s name is Vergence?
The art in the speedpaint in the begining is from Tennelle Flowers if anyone is curious
Great video ffi I love the cute art you did and keep up the amazing work
Thank you I really put my all into it
I thought cub content was just bears play with their cubs I didn't understand how bad it was until you really told me and now I'm even more upset with my community😢
I noticed the background noise was the Minecraft nether theme very interesting choice
"There's no shame in robbing a robber. Especially when they're guilty as sin."
is that dude that hooked up with that alt right furry peacewolf ?
Yes
got confused with where exactly i was when that first song played, (hostile illusion by Nikita Buyanov) 0:48
Naw I didn't use Hostile Illusion I used rules of engagement
damn, listening back to them now there kind of similar, so do you play tarkov?
I did before but not anymore I really like the music though
7:29 that’s not like inappropriate but it’s kinda cute
weirdo
Why can’t these people just draw animals normally 😐
They're all highly regarded
(hes dead now)
Wait what
@@legionarydecanus7207 no clue what this videos about or who i meant but its furry related so probably the furaffinity owner
16:13 - Why am I not surprised this looks like a Sonichu comic?
I recognize the music used at 1:03 but cant remember the name, whats the name of that song?
Rules of engagement