How to install non steam games and repacks on steam deck the simple way !

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  • How to install non steam games and repacks on steam deck the simple way.
    Now you can install non steam games a few ways on the steam deck but i found this way very simple and not much can go wrong.
    But if you do need help Join the ARG Guilded server today with this link : www.guilded.gg...
    Sd card command : STEAM_COMPAT_MOUNTS=" YOUR PATH HERE " %command%
    Make sure where it says YOUR PATH HERE you in pact copy and paste your sd card path.

Комментарии • 257

  • @halojovan
    @halojovan Год назад +17

    I haven't done this yet(waiting for my sd card),but your walkthrough was definitely good to get me to make games run on steam deck! Please keep up on walkthroughs. You the man👍

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад +2

      Glad I could help!

  • @Parallelwurlds
    @Parallelwurlds Год назад +14

    I don’t even have a steam deck but I found this tutorial enjoyable

  • @byklbey4372
    @byklbey4372 Год назад +13

    Thanks for the guide, some setups cause problems on Steam, I found the solution as follows, I installed the game I was going to install on the window, copied the installed game to USB and copied it to Steamdeck, added the exe to steam and managed to run it that way.

    • @madmyc6836
      @madmyc6836 7 месяцев назад

      I wonder if there is a way to use bottles to install it and then copy over the games files from there. I am having issues with some games. It goes through the install but then it doesn’t seem to save the install anywhere on the steam deck file system

    • @faresfares-ultra
      @faresfares-ultra 2 месяца назад

      Will it work if i copy using the C type connected to SD from pc ?

  • @--Animal--
    @--Animal-- Год назад +111

    Shout out to DODI who's in the hospital right now.

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад +26

      Wishing him / her a speedy recovery

    • @RamiAgonistes
      @RamiAgonistes Год назад +3

      Did he get Quacked?

    • @lufasumafalu5069
      @lufasumafalu5069 9 месяцев назад +4

      he got shot in ukraine ?

    • @Jayesla
      @Jayesla 6 месяцев назад

      Get well soon mate

    • @johnconnor5157
      @johnconnor5157 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@lufasumafalu5069 he's Indonesian dude.

  • @Ameedo7
    @Ameedo7 Год назад +25

    Great job.. some people just follow the steps blindly, which you should never do. You have to understand the steps, and you did great explaining that.

  • @JDabz96
    @JDabz96 Год назад +2

    This is how ive already been installing them! I somehow figured it out lol thank you for making me feel smart 😅

  • @Seanbo88
    @Seanbo88 Год назад +1

    You the MVP, ARG. I feel so ready to roll once I get my Deck.

  • @MustafaMertFX
    @MustafaMertFX Год назад +2

    I will try this when I get home, it really seems more practical than most methods. THANKS 🤙

  • @8752005
    @8752005 Год назад +15

    Great video. I been quite successful getting most pc games to work (GTA IV, Hitman, etc...) but was having trouble with Nier Automata repacked. Seen my errors first 5 minutes, can't wait to try your method tonight!

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад

      Glad I could help

    • @EvidenceFragmentary
      @EvidenceFragmentary Год назад +1

      Did you get it to work? iirc Automata ran like ass on PC in general without a fix. I know I had a bad experience with hardware that was well beyond the recommended specs

    • @8752005
      @8752005 Год назад +1

      @@EvidenceFragmentary i totally forgot about this 😑. I got sidetracked and started tinkering with Model 3 emulation, Kotor on Yuzu, etc...etc... short version: YES it launched! I followed Aliens method but with a .iso mounted.
      Long version: never played or heard of this game ever before watching various RUclips list covering the game and I was interested. But im coming from being a regular console gamer, I don't know the level of what is trash to you, also never even dawned on me to look past the menu screen to see if it even ran til just now. But I fired it up just now and it was pretty sweet, my spaceship turned into a mech, and that blew me away! So give it a shot and maybe you'll know how to set it to your liking (and share them tips in case im running garbage)

    • @hellzonehz1416
      @hellzonehz1416 Год назад

      Can you explain how you run repacks??

    • @8752005
      @8752005 Год назад

      @@hellzonehz1416 results do vary depending on what your trying to launch but everything is explained in this video, what issues are you having? Or what steps are you getting lost, I cannot hijack the video, but I'm willing to help

  • @spooks73
    @spooks73 11 месяцев назад +4

    Hi ARG i noticed in this video that you had a trainer on your steam deck, i was wondering which one it was and how about a video on installing it on your steam deck. By the way great work on your videos which are very informative to a new steam deck user. Keep up the good work..

  • @BizzBizz69
    @BizzBizz69 Год назад +1

    Fantastic, money was the only thing stopping me from playing all these amazing games on the go. Not any longer 😈😈😈😈

  • @totalsubmition
    @totalsubmition Год назад

    You should have way more subs. I've subbed. Keep up the good work bud.

  • @wozwoz-w3w
    @wozwoz-w3w 26 дней назад

    Hello Jim. I thought it was you from PC world! It's Warren.

    • @ARG
      @ARG  26 дней назад

      yeah hows it going? wow its been a long time

  • @vd853
    @vd853 7 месяцев назад

    Your steps still works for me. Steam needs a better approach, installing games like this is very sloppy. A keyboard is needed for sure. The onboard keyboard will cover the typing area.

    • @JimmyCasserole
      @JimmyCasserole 6 месяцев назад +1

      This is not how you would install a game that you bought. This is piracy stuff, you either put up or shut up and buy the game from the steam store so that you dont have to do all of this.

  • @-toadstoolicious-9851
    @-toadstoolicious-9851 Год назад +1

    Awesome job. Thanks man. Just what I needed. Auto sub and like

  • @jota2695
    @jota2695 Год назад +1

    you look like bubbles from trailer park boys!! i love that show, tysm for the info

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Gensou_Koroshi
    @Gensou_Koroshi Год назад +11

    Thank you. 😭
    I finally managed to make the games start and run, I almost giving up.
    Please take my like 👍 and subscribe. 🔖

  • @hmike4
    @hmike4 Год назад +1

    Love the videos man! I appreciate your info greatly. Is there any guidance on how to move the quacked games from the SD card to the hard drive of the steam deck? Sorry kinda a noob.... lol

  • @juanmakinaria805
    @juanmakinaria805 Год назад +1

    this really works, even with elamigos games for example.

  • @trueroman6775
    @trueroman6775 Год назад

    Thank you, this helped a lot. I will like and subscribe for your easy to follow video.

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад

      Thanks for the sub!

  • @8752005
    @8752005 Год назад +2

    Subscribed and success!!! I couldn't find that critical file setup.exe in my repack. Was weird because it launches on PC and the Steam OS recognize it but still required purchase... but I kept getting ERROR 1 launching the game. So after researching more, I found my .iso copy, mounted it and found that setup.exe file i needed to complete your method. And it worked flawlessly 👌
    I need a huge favor, I searched your channel , do you have a tutorial to setup Xenia on Steam Deck? No one has a real tutorial uploaded on getting this running, just a bunch of showcase videos 🙏🙏

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад

      i will add Xenia on Steam Deck to my list of future videos so keep an eye out for it.

  • @blablabla6140
    @blablabla6140 Год назад +1

    Great Job, thanx from France

  • @AbdulKhan-oj1ck
    @AbdulKhan-oj1ck Год назад

    Thanks alot very informative im having a blast!!

  • @markt5851
    @markt5851 Год назад +8

    Hi. is there any downside to installing the repack on a Windows PC then just copying the installed folder with the .exe file over to the Steam Deck?

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад +9

      you can do that and i have seen loads of videos with people doing it and i can't see any downside to it.

    • @climaxic3517
      @climaxic3517 Год назад

      Did it work?

    • @anjigo5974
      @anjigo5974 Год назад +1

      @@climaxic3517 It does, I had done it 2 times and both of them worked

    • @climaxic3517
      @climaxic3517 Год назад +1

      @@anjigo5974 thanks for taking the time to reply ! I'm gonna try it myself, appreciated 🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @jawessome
    @jawessome Год назад +3

    Thanks for the guide. I have been trying to install Transformers: War For Cybertron on the Deck and it just won’t launch. I’ve tried to install using your method, installation via Lutris and the old drag and drop existing install (Steam and PC builds) and no dice.
    Any help from anyone would be greatly appreciated. I have the WFC games on PS3 but love handheld gaming too much.
    Keep up the great work all.

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад +1

      try other versions of patreon when you get to the part force compatibility layer and keep trying till you find one that works but failing that not all games will run on the deck.

    • @jawessome
      @jawessome Год назад

      @@ARG I’ve sadly given up and will just play on my PS3. I’m usually persistent but just had enough. Thanks all the same mate.

  • @arturo6509
    @arturo6509 Год назад +1

    You good man, ty for help me i owe you a lot

  • @musne17
    @musne17 Год назад +2

    Bro, you're a legend.

  • @tolgaytonay
    @tolgaytonay Год назад

    Hi, thank you for the video. I have a question which method should be preferred the one on this video or using Lutris? Thank you for the answer.

  • @MikaTarkela
    @MikaTarkela Год назад

    Thanks for the video. It was really helpful!

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад

      You're welcome!

  • @beforeisaythisimugly.7757
    @beforeisaythisimugly.7757 10 месяцев назад

    I know what I’m buying for Christmas this year 😁

  • @mpredolim
    @mpredolim Год назад

    Awesome explanation. Kudos to you!

  • @tomaszr.3132
    @tomaszr.3132 6 месяцев назад +2

    I have a problem, i installed a game on the internal ssd and i cant find the exe. Some other guides say it is somewhere in Compat. Can you help`?

    • @anakoz
      @anakoz 2 месяца назад

      I'm the same, so annoying

  • @lego_minifig
    @lego_minifig 10 месяцев назад

    1:30 actually their is a software out there that can create a FAT32 partition larger than 4 GB with some sort of software trickery. I can’t remember the name of the app, but I did use it in the past to format a 256GB SD card for a console I homebrewed. It was either the 3DS, DSi, or the Wii.

  • @KeoghDave
    @KeoghDave Год назад

    do i have to enter the SD command everythime i want to install a non steam game? great video though. worked like a charm.

  • @retrobear9367
    @retrobear9367 Год назад

    Going to try this for Transformers War for Cybertron when I get home. Tried 2 different downloads last night. Didn't go so well.

  • @wish22new
    @wish22new Год назад +1

    Great explanation 🙏🏻 thanks

  • @HeyItsDominus
    @HeyItsDominus Год назад +2

    What does the Sd card command do? Is that to mount the SD card while in Gaming Mode?

  • @TubeyisTaken
    @TubeyisTaken Год назад

    thnax for your video great job question can I just install on window first than just add unpacked folder to steam deck.

  • @FcoMp
    @FcoMp 9 месяцев назад

    this is all i needed to know 1:54 thanks

  • @raymundreiniermorales5846
    @raymundreiniermorales5846 Год назад +1

    Will it work on Elden ring repack? I am currently downloading it😬

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад

      try it, the thing is with the deck its all trial and error and if it don't work try and force it to work lol

  • @ferrygunawan9940
    @ferrygunawan9940 Год назад

    Great job JP Thank you.

  • @fellipaosanfoneiro4803
    @fellipaosanfoneiro4803 Год назад +1

    Good boy its ok for me!! Call of duty modern warfare remastered 👏🏽👏🏽

  • @bozolozo21
    @bozolozo21 7 месяцев назад +1

    How do you add games on your Asus Rog Alley?

  • @troublebear3600
    @troublebear3600 6 месяцев назад

    Great video is there a way you can move non steam game file to external hard drive n how do you find that drive on steam deck ?

  • @pd6192
    @pd6192 Год назад +1

    The installer didn’t pop up for me when I started up gta 4 and the walking dead so I can’t install it to my sd card, what should I do

  • @ram2279679
    @ram2279679 Год назад +5

    You made it look too easy. Thank you.

  • @cruxmalik
    @cruxmalik Год назад

    Thanks for the video!

  • @Sylintlyfe
    @Sylintlyfe Год назад +2

    The game I tried installing was going for 4 hours with no change. No remaining time gets added, the loading bar stays at 0%. I have no idea what im doing wrong.

  • @niconj7430
    @niconj7430 Год назад

    Great vid but some installs take long can i keep my deck on charging while i install

  • @gareththompson4260
    @gareththompson4260 Год назад +1

    Great video. What happens if you only have 64gb Steam Deck? There wouldn't be enough room to drag it to the desktop would there?

    • @e.t1031
      @e.t1031 Год назад

      Buy a new ssd or sd card

    • @eazymo18
      @eazymo18 Год назад +1

      you will have to install the game on pc instead of the steam deck, after that transfer the game folder to your steam deck

    • @itsnotzuraitskatsura5247
      @itsnotzuraitskatsura5247 Год назад

      @@eazymo18 Couldn't you also just use an sd card to avoid transferring it?

    • @eazymo18
      @eazymo18 Год назад

      ​@@itsnotzuraitskatsura5247 sure if you have the space for it.

    • @eazymo18
      @eazymo18 Год назад

      @@davidmalkovich42 no. but you can, you have to mount the external drive first.

  • @zealonix4604
    @zealonix4604 Год назад

    Hey do you think you can do a video on how to get unreal tournament 3 on the steam deck

  • @LazyPCRehab
    @LazyPCRehab Год назад +2

    What is the install location when we install to the Steam Deck directly? Can’t find it for the life of me.

    • @gatk3492
      @gatk3492 Год назад +2

      drive z:\home\deck\folder name

  • @thefreshproduce
    @thefreshproduce 3 месяца назад

    EXTREMELY HELPFUL!

    • @ARG
      @ARG  3 месяца назад

      Glad you think so!

  • @xEspada06
    @xEspada06 Год назад

    Do you download Linux files or Windows? Or do both work?

  • @alanwwm
    @alanwwm 5 месяцев назад

    Hi. Thank you for the great tutorial. I followed your guide for installing dodi replaced Forza horizon 5 but when I run the game it start another process and prompt to purchase the game. How do I fix this?

  • @abdillahraka422
    @abdillahraka422 Год назад

    ohh its work , and installed to D drive in my case , but what if we not apply steam compact mounts command ? is this still work to choose D drive usually ?

  • @cartertaylor9380
    @cartertaylor9380 Год назад +1

    Does this work with repacks of emulated games? I attempted it and didn't have any luck.

  • @steveford1070
    @steveford1070 Месяц назад +1

    Linux is so intuitive, said noone ever

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Месяц назад

      🤣

  • @barski13
    @barski13 Год назад

    Do I need to have the internet on all the time to start the game and play or is it enough to use the internet to enter steam and start the game and I can play without internet?

  • @silentdenizen6903
    @silentdenizen6903 2 месяца назад +1

    some games won't work with this. especially games that require Microsoft Visual C++ so please state which program requirements will not work with your future tutorials.

  • @AyooJetSetter
    @AyooJetSetter 9 месяцев назад

    Any fix for the game will run at first but a couple hours later it will just crash and the properties folders will have the target completely changed

  • @shaneallison2163
    @shaneallison2163 Год назад

    Hi thanks for the tutorial i have an issue though. I added a game and the cutscene doesnt work it forcibly skips it. Am i missing something or do i need a different proton to get it to work?

  • @Ramyestacado
    @Ramyestacado Год назад +1

    You dont really need to copy the installation files to steam deck. You can just setup the game from the external drive.

    • @francescogiordano1642
      @francescogiordano1642 11 месяцев назад

      How did you do that? You just open the setup.exe, on the external SSD, from the desktop, or you put the exe on the steam library ?

  • @opaitaon5230
    @opaitaon5230 Год назад

    can jack sparrow games be installed in steam os using your main steam acount??
    isnt there any risk of being banned?
    want to try this on my steam deck but want to be safe.. im not using the deck for online gaming, only retro and offline gaming..

  • @shamwahab20
    @shamwahab20 14 дней назад

    hye, is the command same if u want to install in the SSD?

  • @fieryfirevivin
    @fieryfirevivin Год назад +1

    Does steam achievements work with it

  • @olivierdigne8989
    @olivierdigne8989 Год назад

    Thank easy, any problem with run virtuel c++ run Time, for another non steam game ? HL and how to charge a picture on big picture. Thanks

  • @jaddaj3867
    @jaddaj3867 Год назад +3

    Hello JP, hope you're able to respond to this, but I recently changed my SSD to 1TB. How do I install it directly to the SSD from the installer (as opposed to your installing on the micro SD)? I can't seem to find the location. I recently installed on C but I could not for the life of me locate the files at all.

    • @hamam6368
      @hamam6368 Год назад +3

      Lmao same, have you found the solution? Also if anyone else knows what to do pls reply. Thx

    • @jaddaj3867
      @jaddaj3867 Год назад

      @@hamam6368 Yep, figured it out, it's on Z > Home > Desktop. Hope this helps.

    • @austinRstr8
      @austinRstr8 9 месяцев назад

      same here, completely missing @@hamam6368

  • @faizzakaria5130
    @faizzakaria5130 Год назад

    Do you have the tutorial to update the game when the latest patch come out?

  • @kestonedwards8142
    @kestonedwards8142 Год назад

    Do i need to download the game from a pc then transfer it or can i download the game directly from the steam deck?

  • @keepitshort4208
    @keepitshort4208 7 месяцев назад

    Does a newer version of the quacked game replace the old one ? If not then where are the save data for the game so that i can copy it to the newer version of the game

  • @jordhyne23
    @jordhyne23 Год назад +1

    if i already installed the game on my pc then copy the folder of the game from windows to steam deck and set up the proton and add as nonsteam games will that work as well?

    • @kerrybresee5411
      @kerrybresee5411 Год назад

      Yes

    • @kerrybresee5411
      @kerrybresee5411 Год назад

      I have several games working this way. A few working that I tried are Wild West, Gotham Knight, Ready or Not, Deep Space 2, Battlefield Hardline, Ao Tennis 2 and PGA 2K21 to name a few

  • @HJ007able
    @HJ007able Год назад

    Thank you very much, I tried this for Atomic heart but face error for C++ and haven't solve the problem yet😔😔😔

  • @jekae61
    @jekae61 Год назад +1

    thanks dude!

  • @blades7178
    @blades7178 8 месяцев назад

    That protonup qt destroyed my ssh connection I had mounted to my windows! What’s up with that man?

  • @fotoamgamgfoto3695
    @fotoamgamgfoto3695 10 месяцев назад

    Hi! Can it work if I have an installed chacked game on my gamer PC and I copy the installed chucked game folder to a microSD and run it on steam deck?

  • @lufasumafalu5069
    @lufasumafalu5069 9 месяцев назад

    repack is the saviour of gamers

  • @keepitshort4208
    @keepitshort4208 7 месяцев назад

    For a quacked game with the latest update can i just download the update file only without downloading the whole game again and not lose save data ?

  • @jobnacional6373
    @jobnacional6373 5 месяцев назад

    Question: How to uninstall? I know I can just remove non steam game, but it will not remove the files in the micro sd games folder. Maybe I'll just delete it? Thank you

  • @wilsonfuraque8039
    @wilsonfuraque8039 6 месяцев назад

    Hi! Does this also work on Holoiso and/or Chimera OS?

  • @m4ryiz
    @m4ryiz 6 месяцев назад

    Do NOT install directly to the SD card, my Sims 3 Complete Edition repack from fitgirl took 10 hours just to install 6% of the game files. It even said it would take another 150 HOURS to install said game. I then canceled the installation and installed it on my 1TB SSD instead. Now, the whole installation only took me about 40 minutes.

  • @lip404stick
    @lip404stick 6 месяцев назад

    If it is the game file ios format, should I follow the same steps?

  • @rizwansultan8966
    @rizwansultan8966 6 месяцев назад

    does it apply on any linux distro. can I play windows games on endeavour os by using this same method 😅

  • @ardifauzi2171
    @ardifauzi2171 11 месяцев назад

    Is the repack file on desktop should be deleted after installation?

  • @andreaferrari9264
    @andreaferrari9264 Год назад

    When i start the game It send me to the store... Help me please! GoW and Spider-Man both the same, Do i have to use Proton Exoerimental or GE Proton instead?

  • @joshleonard7163
    @joshleonard7163 21 день назад

    Do you have a tutorial on how you made the game run smoother?

    • @ARG
      @ARG  20 дней назад

      I was running at low settings and I didn't change anything else.
      I no longer have the steam deck due to getting Legion Go so I can't
      go back and have a look.

  • @pauledspang9086
    @pauledspang9086 Год назад

    Hello I have a question, i installed some exe game files on my sd card. Everytime i try to launch the game i get Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime coming up.i did install visual c++ and i put the directory in the Steam game properties but it won work. Any sugestión ?

  • @sweeenchants6053
    @sweeenchants6053 Год назад +1

    But where do u find the repack/game file? Like what website cause I want download little witch nobeta 😭😩 idk what website to go to

    • @ARG
      @ARG  Год назад

      Join the discord and you will find what you are looking for 😊

  • @jae354
    @jae354 Год назад

    Do you have any idea how to run GTA it's £9 on cdkey but needs rockstar launcher

  • @czarsv15
    @czarsv15 Год назад

    you can make a video on how to install games non steam and repacks on linux ?

  • @shashwatchaurasia9030
    @shashwatchaurasia9030 Год назад

    i was able to install god of war with this method from fitgirl repack
    but now i cannot install batman arkham knight.
    error shows checkransum error
    i tried installing dbz kakarot with fitgirl
    error shows insufficient ram/internal storage which doesnt make sense

  • @soulferdz3114
    @soulferdz3114 Год назад

    hi ive installed street fighter five dodi repack but the problem is that the dlc are not showing up, it has dlc on the folder but its not reading it , hope you can help

  • @cameronweston1038
    @cameronweston1038 Год назад

    Hi i have downloaded the one from dodi where its direct play no install. When i start the game i get a licensing error. Do u know how to fix it?

  • @pepsimac
    @pepsimac 7 месяцев назад

    is this method the same for switch repacks from fitgirl ?

  • @alexlucyrep9948
    @alexlucyrep9948 Год назад

    DID ALL SAME AS YOU SOON AS I TRY GAME IT JUMPS BACK TO START GAME AGAIN DOES NOT RUN

  • @opaitaon5230
    @opaitaon5230 Год назад

    my bro been trying to install games likenyou did but on an external disk and the deck isnt finding my disk..

  • @JstMst
    @JstMst Год назад

    Dude, I'm so inexperienced. I've used a pc for years and bought a console for the first time. Steam Deck! Now I've started watching these kinds of videos. There's just one thing I'm curious about. There are many shapes and adaptations in many videos for non-Steam game setup. Those who do it with Lutris are other methods or something. Can I install all games with the method you showed? The Lutris thing was very confusing. Like I said, I'm very inexperienced. I have a good computer by the way. If there was a way to synchronize with my computer, it would be very useful.

    • @mehow3263
      @mehow3263 Год назад +2

      Steam deck is not a console. For me, a "gaming console" is something with a closed OS, which doesn't require anything from its user apart of launching the game. Steam Deck is a handheld PC running Arch Linux based OS, which is not perfect for gaming. People need to understand that buying Steam Deck is basically going into Linux gaming. And that's not very fun.

    • @mehow3263
      @mehow3263 Год назад

      I bought Steam Deck because I'm sort of an IT guy, and I like to mess with Linux etc. But I can't imagine some of my non-IT friends buying Steam Deck and having fun. You can do EVERYTHING on Steam Deck. But you need to understand that it's a PC, not a console.

    • @JDabz96
      @JDabz96 Год назад

      ​@mehow3263 it's actually extremely fun you wacko, ive used windows my whole life and steam os is light-years better, especially for gaming, I natively torrent and setup games on my steam deck.

    • @mehow3263
      @mehow3263 Год назад

      @@JDabz96 yes but I think that 90% of my stupid friends would be annoyed by that

    • @JDabz96
      @JDabz96 Год назад

      ​​@@mehow3263steam os is the closest you can get to a console like experience for an os, a lot of my friend don't even have a pc and they got a steam deck because it's easy to use and navigate because it's "console" like and super understandable.

  • @6lifestowaste
    @6lifestowaste Год назад

    i tried this with a steamunloacked game and got "no lisence" when trying to launch the game

  • @galvanicmass
    @galvanicmass Год назад

    How do u fix the steam deck controller that doesn't work with non steam games...

  • @qaisarirshad5549
    @qaisarirshad5549 Год назад +1

    Can you do Forza Horizon 5?