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Are all Seventh Day Adventists Vegetarian? Do Adventists eat meat?
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Acts 10:9-15 The next day, as they went on their journey and drew near the city, Peter went up on the housetop to pray, about the sixth hour. Then he became very hungry and wanted to eat; but while they made ready, he fell into a trance and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.” And a voice spoke to him again the second time, “What God has cleansed you must not call common.”
Mark 7:18 So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, :19 because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, this purifying all foods?”
1 Corinthians 8:8 But food does not bring us to God, for if we eat, we gain nothing, and if we do not eat, we lose nothing.
Great passages, thanks for sharING. The Acts is a reference to Jews and Gentiles (not food). If you read the rest of the chapter the Bible explains exactly what the vision was actually about. This passages is so often taken out of context to argue against what foods God in His authority declared clean and unclean.
Regarding your Mark reference. people who eat meat aren't "defiled". That's not what the Bible teaches. However, if we eat unclean foods than that is classified an abomination to God. Lev 11:1-47ish
Regarding your 1 Corinthians passages, this passage is about eating foods that have been offered to sacrifices - very different to what I'm discussing in this video.
Thanks so much for taking time to share those passages with me, Mysteries made Known
@SDA insider Romans 14:2 One man's faith allows him to eat everything, but another man, whose faith is weak, eats only vegetables.
1 Corinthians 10:31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
Genesis 9:3&:4 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. I have given you all things, even as the green herbs. But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.
1 Timothy 4:3-:5 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God has created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
I actually read my King James Bible and The Bible does allow us to eat meat. Their is plenty more evidence saying we can eat meat. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to only eat a plant based diet.
@@mysteriesmadeknown2874 no response from her on these scriptures 🤔
@@purebride8600😂
I was raised as a firm meat eater by my SDA parents. Didn’t know the church taught vegetarianism till a little later lol.
😮 really? SDA church is well known for this. Loma Linda, in California, is known for a high number of people living to 100 years of age. Most of its residents are SDA members. 😊
Vegan is not a diet it is a philosophy.
You can be 100% plant based but not be vegan.
Vegan for the animals. Whether you are Adventist or not, a theist or not, please supporting the animal slave trade. There is absolutely no need for good, compassionate people to deliberately contribute to the torture and slaughter of sentient beings. Whole plants foods, mushrooms, and an occasional B13 supplement supply all nutrients we need - and in abundance! Meat is gratuitous violence. We can do better.
Happy and healthy 2024 to all!
@@arambarsamian6312 Vegan for the Animals !!
Keep on Educating !!
Amen 🙏 I am a vegan
Same.. amen 🙏🏼
What then does Paul mean in
1 Timothy 4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
These seven day cult can't see what u wrote BECAUSE U NOT SDA CULT BLIND LEADING THE BLIND
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Wow I was looking for someone who would highlight this verse.
This verse needs to be explained fully.
I'm adventist and a strong supporter of the carnivore diet.... it heald me
im a sda(not with the GC) and i am vegetarian because that is optimal. the original diet was herbs and fruits. also only our bodies are going to change in a twinkling of an eye, not our minds. the mind change starts NOW. "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Romans 12:2
*Hebrews 13:9 Be NOT carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have NOT profited them that have been occupied therein*
The plants of the garden of Eden are not the same plants of today, which we had to breed into the edible forms we see today. Flesh was less corrupt and cursed for death, we now need to depend on death to sustain our life after the flood. God allowed us to eat meat for good reason, the plants we have lack essential true vitamins, hormones and minerals. Which plant can you obtain true vitamin D which is a hormone, cholesterol which is required to create vitamin D through sun on skin contact, true vitamin A as retinol or heme iron? You can't and if you can through conversion, its in not enough amounts. Vegetarians can survive with eggs and cheese for a very long time, but many also become vegan which is playing russian roulette with your health, especially since not every body can convert things like plant based vitamin A into true vitamin A in sufficient amounts.
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KJVA Bible. Deuteronomy 14:22-27
[22]Thou shalt truly tithe all the increase of thy seed, that the field bringeth forth year by year.
[23]And thou shalt eat before the LORD thy God, in the place which he shall choose to place his name there, the tithe of thy corn, of thy wine, and of thine oil, and the firstlings of thy herds and of thy flocks; that thou mayest learn to fear the LORD thy God always.
[24]And if the way be too long for thee, so that thou art not able to carry it; or if the place be too far from thee, which the LORD thy God shall choose to set his name there, when the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
[25]Then shalt thou turn it into money, and bind up the money in thine hand, and shalt go unto the place which the LORD thy God shall choose:
[26]And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,
[27]And the Levite that is within thy gates; thou shalt not forsake him; for he hath no part nor inheritance with thee.
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Amen. Good explanation
I went to my first SDA meeting last week. They said they were vegetarian and that the Bible clearly states this.
So……. You said it.
I believe that is adding to the law!
*Hebrews 13:9 Be NOT carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have NOT profited them that have been occupied therein*
@@chucksmith4624 Meats as in the meat sacrificed to idols?
Fourth, Revelation 7:16 implies eating and drinking will not be necessary in heaven since there will be no more hunger or thirst: "They shall hunger no more, neither thirst anymore." be careful of what you teach false prophets 2 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive opinions. They will even deny the Master who bought them-bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Even so, many will follow their licentious ways, and because of these teachers[a] the way of truth will be maligned. 3 And in their greed they will exploit you with deceptive words. Their condemnation, pronounced against them long ago, has not been idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
4 For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell[b] and committed them to chains[c] of deepest darkness to be kept until the judgement; 5
God required the Priests to worship God in the morning and evening on every Sunday as well as Saturday.
Exodus 29: 36 *And thou shalt offer every day* a bullock for a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar, when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it.
37 Seven days thou shalt make an atonement for the altar, and sanctify it; and *it shall be an altar most holy:* whatsoever toucheth the altar shall be holy.
38 Now this is that which thou shalt offer upon the altar; *two lambs of the first year DAY BY DAY CONTINUALLY.*
39 *The one lamb thou shalt offer in the MORNING; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at EVEN:*
40 And with the one lamb a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of beaten oil; and the fourth part of an *hin of wine for a drink offering.*
41 *And the other lamb thou shalt offer at EVEN, and shalt do thereto according to the meat offering of the MORNING,* and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
42 *This shall be a CONTINUAL burnt offering throughout your generations* at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the Lord: where I will meet you, to speak there unto thee.
The Law of God commanded the Priests to drink wine, twice a day, eat red meat twice a day and worship twice on Sunday as every other day of the year. Exodus 29:36-42 dispels any Sunday law possibility, commands the eating of red meat twice a day and drinking of wine twice a day, and offering those very things to God as *"holy"* by the law of God. ,
Matthew 15:7-11
Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of u saying, this people draweth unto me with their mouth, & honoured me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. & he called the multitude & said unto them, Hear & understand: Not that which growth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defile a man.
I would really appreciate your thoughts on how your verses relate to the diet specifications that God gave Adam and Eve in Gen 1
John 21:13
Jesus then cometh, and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish likewise.
Did Jesus give the disciples herbs or fish (flesh) to eat? How do YOU relate that to Genesis 1?
@@sdainsider2185 KJVA Bible. Genesis 9:1-5
[1]And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
[2]And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
[3]Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
[4]But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
[5]And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
@@sdainsider2185 KJVA Bible. Exodus 12:3-8
[3]Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:
[4]And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.
[5]Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
[6]And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
[7]And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
[8]And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
@@sdainsider2185 KJVA Bible. Genesis 18:6-8
[6]And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth.
[7]And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it.
[8]And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.
Interesting but even though I was raised in the SDA church as a vegetarian, I’m still confused. Ellen White preaches veganism and after I went vegan, my family thinks extremists messed with my mind. Who are the extremists? Is it just me?
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@@NGEVEMUSOLE It’s also heretical
*Hebrews 13:9 Be NOT carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have NOT profited them that have been occupied therein*
Just a few.
@@chucksmith4624 heretical?
Isn’t this assuming the garden of Eden actually existed? Most biblical scholars agree that Genesis 1-11 is teleological in nature and not historical.
Colossians 2:16
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
You don't seem to be very respectful. In obedience to the injunction you quoted I will not let you judge me. Take the log out of your own eye before jumping online and twisting Scripture to attack other believers. Let others make their own choices about such things.
@@danielmaher8166 That scripture was meant for the people who think and teach that if a person eats a certain food or doesn't celebrate a certain day that people will go to hell for those reasons. Which is false doctrine. The only reason a person will spend eternity in hell is unbelief. Read the Apostle Paul's teaching.
@@danielmaher8166 Jesus says; It's not what goes into a man's mouth that defiles him, it's what comes out of his mouth because the words he speaks come from the heart.
You do not have eat any meat at all if you chose that type of diet. Just don't teach others that if they choose a different diet they are going to hell.
@@paulgemme6056 I agree with you on that 100% as SDA Insider said the SDA Church has no such teaching contrary to Scripture. May the words of your keyboard reveal a pure and meek heart.
@@danielmaher8166 I know personally a SDA member who teaches that if a person ( who says they believe ) but still vapes is going to hell because vaping is a sin. Bad teaching. Can really mess up a new believers mind.
The Apostle Paul warns us and tells us to watch out for those who teach false doctrine. Read the teaching in the book of Galatians. About those who where teaching that a new believer had to follow the Jewish religion. The religion that Paul new so well until he met Christ. Grace; the Apostle Paul learned first hand about God's Grace. Jesus paid it all. Jesus plus nothing. It is finished !
Romans 14:17
for the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
U GOT NO REPLY BECAUSE THE WITCH IS DOING THIS PROD CAST ONLY TO PUSH THERE CULT!!!
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1 Corinthians 6:13
Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
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Romans 14:17-18. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.
read your bible know your bible trust your bible stop following man made laws you know where that will get you
*Hebrews 13:9 Be NOT carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have NOT profited them that have been occupied therein*
God required the Priests to worship God in the morning and evening on every Sunday as well as Saturday.
Exodus 29: 36 *And thou shalt offer every day* a bullock for a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar, when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it.
37 Seven days thou shalt make an atonement for the altar, and sanctify it; and *it shall be an altar most holy:* whatsoever toucheth the altar shall be holy.
38 Now this is that which thou shalt offer upon the altar; *two lambs of the first year DAY BY DAY CONTINUALLY.*
39 *The one lamb thou shalt offer in the MORNING; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at EVEN:*
40 And with the one lamb a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of beaten oil; and the fourth part of an *hin of wine for a drink offering.*
41 *And the other lamb thou shalt offer at EVEN, and shalt do thereto according to the meat offering of the MORNING,* and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
42 *This shall be a CONTINUAL burnt offering throughout your generations* at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the Lord: where I will meet you, to speak there unto thee.
The Law of God commanded the Priests *o drink wine, twice a day, eat red meat twice a day and worship twice on Sunday as every other day of the yea* . Exodus 29:36-42 dispels any Sunday law possibility, commands the eating of red meat twice a day and drinking of wine twice a day, and offering those very things to God as *"holy"* by the law of God. ,
THANK YOU for your clarifications on this issue. Very helpful video ! Kudos ! Well done ! :-)
Jubal, its a humbling privileged to be used by God to bless others. Thank you so much for taking time to share your feedback and support, it's Divinely encouraging!
@@sdainsider2185 You're welcome ! Till now I had often wondered if it was required by the SDA that members be vegetarian. I have read over the years that the church puts a strong emphasis on healthy living. I'm happy to find out vegetarianism is not required for SDA membership & that they leave the decision to each member's own personal conscience. Interesting fact. I took a CNA (Certified Nursing Assistant) class years ago and our instructor (very nice lady who was an RN) mentioned one day she was raised in the SDA church by vegetarian parents and that she had NEVER tasted meat ! And she was in her 40s !
@@jubalcalif9100 There's a lot of those kind of SDA. I didn't grow up SDA so I don't have the same story. The bible has some real gems regarding the benefits of caring for God's temple. Things that are eve backed up by modern-day science.
Have you heard of the "Blue Zones'? Worth checking out the National Geographic's doco or TedTalks. SDAs were found to represent one of the longest living groups of people in the world. Unlike all the other groups they identified, who were from remote/ rural areas of iItaly and Japan, SDAs were the only group of people that lived in urban areas (Loma Linda, USA) with a high number of people living long enough to reach over 100 years of life.
@@sdainsider2185 Thank you very much for the additional info ! No I have not heard of the "Blue Zones". I will check that out when I get the chance. I would think that the members of the LDS Church (the Mormons) would be as a group a long living people, since most of them do not drink alcohol or smoke. Their church presidents usually live to ripe old ages ! In any case, thank you again so very much ! :-)
@@jubalcalif9100 Given the LDS have identified similar health principles in the Bible, I imagine they have also found the 'secret' to longevity. Some commonality found within the Blue zones was minimal, or no meant, physically active lifestyle (even in retirement), rest and whole foods (minimal processed foods). It a really interesting study. Thanks so much for the chat!
What do you mean by vegetarian? What’s the difference between vegan and vegetarian.
Great question, vegan (our plant-based) is no eating of animal products like; cream, butter, cheese or honey. Vegetarian is not eating the flesh of the animal like steak, chicken or fish.
All one needs to do is look at your bowel movements. Almost no white versus peanut butter. We are not supposed to eat meats like we're taught. There's no way.
if we where made herbivores why is it that when a omnivore strictly eats a herbivore diet they suffer from vitamin b12 deficiency unless they take supplements that are really made from animal products. They found that 92% of the vegans they studied -- those who ate the strictest vegetarian diet, which shuns all animal products, including milk and eggs -- had vitamin B12 deficiency. But two in three people who followed a vegetarian diet that included milk and eggs as their only animal foods also were deficient.
B12 is in soil and water, yet modern day farming has destroyed it. Livestock are given B12 supplements .
God required the Priests to worship God in the morning and evening on every Sunday as well as Saturday.
Exodus 29: 36 *And thou shalt offer every day* a bullock for a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar, when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it.
37 Seven days thou shalt make an atonement for the altar, and sanctify it; and *it shall be an altar most holy:* whatsoever toucheth the altar shall be holy.
38 Now this is that which thou shalt offer upon the altar; *two lambs of the first year DAY BY DAY CONTINUALLY.*
39 *The one lamb thou shalt offer in the MORNING; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at EVEN:*
40 And with the one lamb a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of beaten oil; and the fourth part of an *hin of wine for a drink offering.*
41 *And the other lamb thou shalt offer at EVEN, and shalt do thereto according to the meat offering of the MORNING,* and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
42 *This shall be a CONTINUAL burnt offering throughout your generations* at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the Lord: where I will meet you, to speak there unto thee.
The Law of God commanded the Priests to drink wine, twice a day, eat red meat twice a day and worship twice on Sunday as every other day of the year. Exodus 29:36-42 dispels any Sunday law possibility, commands the eating of red meat twice a day and drinking of wine twice a day, and offering those very things to God as *"holy"* by the law of God. ,
@@chucksmith4624 again this was post-sin and ceremonial meat eating was still very specific. No fat, no blood. And servings were very specific- it wasn't a meal, it was a symbolic ritual- not a BBQ
@@sdainsider2185 Christ admonishes us in this manner, “15There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him vs but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. 16If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. 17And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable. 18And he saith unto them, MARK 7:18… *Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive,* that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; 19Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats? 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness vs 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.” Mark. 7 vs 15-23. Let us pride ourselves in removing these things from our hearts and then we shall be pleasing in the sight of the Lord, not because we don’t eat shrimp.
Lastly, the writer of Hebrews in Chapter 13 gives some sound advice in verse nine, 9Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.”
Like vegetation, there is a vast difference between foods that not good for you to eat, and foods that are "unclean". For example, can eat vegetation that is poisonous! It's poisonous, not "unclean" . *Christian are not be required to live after the manner of the Jews! The first council of the Church in Acts 15:5-16:4 forbids any teaching of the Gentile Christians to be obligated to live as do the Jews.* So, when Gen. 9: speaks of all foods or meat being eatable even as the green herb, *it means, just that!*
Col. 2:16 *Forbids judging anyone in regard to what they eat or drink!*
Daniel never said that his vegetarian diet was his previous diet, that is an assumption. How much does the church push this diet?
The majority of Bible commentators (from all different denominations) collectively agree that Daniel was continuing with the diet that he would have most commonly eaten prior to his captivity in Babylon. I’d recommend you fact check that info. Whether he ate ‘pulses and water’ prior to Daniel chapter 1 or not, it is clear that God wanted to document that fact that Daniel made a firm discussion to choose plant-based food as his choice to nutrients when given the choice to eat something else. The account in the book of Daniel shows us that if Daniel was told to eat something that would defile him, Daniel would risk death and punishment to eat that which was the ideal instead of defiling ‘himself with a potion of the Kings delicacies.’ Hope that helps, thanks so much for your comment
It's a fair point. Plant based diet is not required but it is promoted. You can eat meat and be a member, pastor or whatever, but it is preferred to eat plant based. This is more based on Genesis than Daniel, the Daniel example is just an interesting case study.
@@sdainsider2185 In Daniel 10:3 he describes a fast where he ate no bread, drank no wine, and ate no flesh. So clearly he was eating meat.
Like I mentioned in the video, it’s not pushed, but at some point people attending our church events become very aware that we believe in the benefits of eating the a plant based diet. Whether someone chooses to eat a vegetarian diet is there personal choice.
Regarding your point of what Daniel ate prior to him going to Babylon, I’d encourage you to research differently scholarly writings as there definitely is support that ‘pulses’ would have made the bulk of his normal diet, if not all of it. The Hebrews would have celebrated numerous feast days which would have called for the consumption of flesh, so we can’t rule out all the consumption of all flesh foods but we must also keep this Dan 2 in mind when making this observation. Additionally, the other significant point in Daniel’s experience is that certain foods can defile us, this point is valid regardless of whether it’s a plant-based diet or not.
@@sdainsider2185 I'm curious about the phrase "The majority of Bible commentators (from all different denominations) collectively agree that Daniel was continuing with the diet that he would have most commonly eaten prior to his captivity in Babylon" Have the people who are saying such things never read Daniel 10:3? Have the Adventists promoting vegetarianism never read Daniel 10:3? Or Acts 10? Or I Timothy 4:1-5?
Jesus ate fish
I also vegetarian...n I always read counsels on diet by Ellen G white..
U are Carnal Eating FLESH!!!
Well let me put fire To your meal! U going to HELL following a false prophet!? What's FLESH IS FLESH BUT SPIRIT IS THE WORD!?
But Ellen White ate meat and even oysters, read her personal letters.
@@carlnaitram6522 Ellen "the fraud" White telling little white lies.
Yeah.. And she knew, didn't she?
Are you familiar with the santuary service ?
In the santuary meat is only found in the outer courts and right now we are living in the time of the most holy place and meat is not found in the most holy place and adventists used the santuart service as a guide so if there is ni meat found in the santuary then we should not be eating meat !!
Haven’t heard that before. It’s a point worth considering. Thanks for sharing your insights and for commenting 🙏🏽
@@j0kez820 that is a fallacy. the Israelites ate lamb at the passover for sure. The Lord Jesus Himself officiated at one before He went to the cross.
After the resurrection He took fish and gave to the disciples when they went fishing.
Adventists have so many different views on this meat issue if meat eating and each of them quote Ellen White as their source But that is because
She is contradictory in her writings. Even in her personal letters she mentions about her eating oysters and deer and duck.
Time for you all to LOOK UNTO JESUS THE AUTHOR AND FINISHER OF YOUR FAITH
Is Veganism a salvation issue for Adventist? I once meet an Adventist who claimed that "non-Vegan Adventists won't be saved".
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It depends if they know that a plant based diet is superior to a flash based diet. Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent. So unless a person did not know that a plant based diet is superior than a flesh based diet, God will wink and let it slide. But when they know better, than it is a salvation issue. there will be a lot of flesh eaters in heaven because of ignorance.
@@SwiftEagle7 Wow! *You think Acts 17:30 is talking about plant based foods????* You are grossly misusing the scripture. Have you no reverence for context? *Here's a scripture you can live by! *Hebrews 13:9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have NOT profited them that have been occupied therein*
God required the Priests to worship God in the morning and evening on every Sunday as well as Saturday.
Exodus 29: 36 *And thou shalt offer every day* a bullock for a sin offering for atonement: and thou shalt cleanse the altar, when thou hast made an atonement for it, and thou shalt anoint it, to sanctify it.
37 Seven days thou shalt make an atonement for the altar, and sanctify it; and *it shall be an altar most holy:* whatsoever toucheth the altar shall be holy.
38 Now this is that which thou shalt offer upon the altar; *two lambs of the first year DAY BY DAY CONTINUALLY.*
39 *The one lamb thou shalt offer in the MORNING; and the other lamb thou shalt offer at EVEN:*
40 And with the one lamb a tenth deal of flour mingled with the fourth part of an hin of beaten oil; and the fourth part of an *hin of wine for a drink offering.*
41 *And the other lamb thou shalt offer at EVEN, and shalt do thereto according to the meat offering of the MORNING,* and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the Lord.
42 *This shall be a CONTINUAL burnt offering throughout your generations* at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the Lord: where I will meet you, to speak there unto thee.
The Law of God commanded the Priests to drink wine, twice a day, eat red meat twice a day and worship twice on Sunday as every other day of the year. Exodus 29:36-42 dispels any Sunday law possibility, commands the eating of red meat twice a day and drinking of wine twice a day, and offering those very things to God as *"holy"* by the law of God. ,
@@chucksmith4624 Hey there! First I want to say that I just answered Minifest 696 question. They asked if Veganism is a salvation issue for Adventist, and if non-vegan Adventists wont be saved. Now I don't connect Acts 17:30 with just talking about being plant based. I can connect this verse with many things people are ignorant of, like going to church on Sunday for example. But those who truly love God with all their heart but just don't know any better, the bible says God will wink at. My friend, Ignorance can be anything that opposes Gods truth, including His superior plant based diet He originally gave for man kind in Genesis 1:29. It was not until after the flood that God allowed a TEMPORAL diet for man to eat of the CLEAN animals flesh because there was no vegetation on earth at that time because the water wiped everything out.
No!!!! I'm SDA and I eat meat but only clean meat
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What is clean meat?
@@victoranthony1484 they cannot eat pork ol clamshells so only cow and other hoved animals
@@victoranthony1484 God declared what animals were fit for human consumption and what animals He declared as unclean. Even when God sent animals onto Noah's ark, He sent 2 of every UNCLEAN animal and 7 of every CLEAN animal. If they ate one of the unclean animals there wouldn't be another one of that type of animal to reproduce. Worth reading Lev 11 and Deut 14 for Biblical details. Thanks for asking a great question!
And yes, we have evolvesd over millions of years to eat meat, not plants. The bible refers to vegetables only 13 times versus 290 times for meat. Eat biblically.
Just follow a Okinawan diet. Eat mostly plants, but once in a while eat some meat.
Okinawans eat a lot of pork and seafood. I know because i went there to check.
I know very few non meat eating Adventists, maybe if the Pastor is invited for lunch they'll prepare deep fried creamed up carbs veg and puddings. Even the catered for potluck dishes, the funerals too are meat based meals. Their argument, it's not doctrinal
Thanks for sharing your experience. It is a valid point for both sides of the argument. Because it isn't doctrinal, it's not an expectation or obligation for church membership. The SDA church definitely has a deep understanding of the Biblical evidence for a plant-based diet but its not forced on members, there's room for personal conviction.
God gives us a list of animals we can eat and can't but as long as you guys aren't weirdly saying you have to eat vegetables I can see where you're coming from. None of the weird stuff people ever say about you guys is accurate and I really like the little light studios warnings about culture. You guys stay cool. 😎 peace out brothers and sisters from a different denomination
So, the Trail of Blood isn't weird? 😎
What does diet have to do with salvation?
I would assume she believes it doesn’t have anything to do with salvation, just like good works, they are a result of your salvation, not a part of it.
My brother , food is key since the beginning of time , Not GMO food that is man made of this time , But the natural foods from the earth that nourish the body , the foods we put in our system can can either deteriorate or Replenish our bodies and Mind , “mind, body , soul “ people eat cows and pigs and chickens that get slaughtered and treated badly then we ingest all that fear and flesh from and animal that is cancer caused , plants are the true foods from god not Flesh ,
Most Adventists are not vegetarians. When I was an Adventist, I was raised in a very carnivorous home and I knew a pastor of a pretty large Adventist Church who liked Texas BBQ.
Why did Jesus eat meat?
All this contradicts 1 Timothy 4:1-3:
Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons...forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving.
People cherry pick whatever verses fit their beliefs. Typical.
Word. There's also a verse, I don't remember where it is but I remember hearing it it said that "the weak eat only vegetables"
The word "meat" in the original Greek is actually "food", this passage is often used incorrectly and out of context to inaccurately argue against SDA and claim that our teachings are of demons. However, most people don't know what the passage is actually saying. Thanks for taking time to share though, hopefully my reply has given you a Biblically accurate understanding of the passage.
@@sdainsider2185 So then the verse is "...forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from FOODS.." ?
So abstain from eating ?
The passage doesn't make much sense with that interpretation.
@@sdainsider2185 Hii.. I would want to discuss with you that scripture so that I also could have a better understanding of it. Are you willing?
Sin or Not??
❤ good information but i have researched that vegan is different than plant based religiously. As far as eating flesh it was never part God's original menu for mankind. However if we choose to eat it better to eat it as instructed in the bible, for health reasons, drain out the blood and boil the flesh removing the fat . God wants us to be healthy and obedient in our thoughts as well as actions. Eating a poor animal when there is so much better things to consume is a mental issue at this stage. God bless everyone to recognize our power of choice. Recognize God knows best.
Good job👍👍
We all have to get back to sinless state, and diet prescribed to all living creatures, man or animal before the fall was a vegetarian diet
KJV Genesis 1:29
29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
KJV Genesis 1:30-31
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Better to start practicing the lifestyle that was given to man before he sinned, coz that's what we're all ultimately aiming at✌️
Girl u lost Jesus was the only sinless? U telling me u can be sinless? Your works are filthy garments!? Read & learn & Understand? U FLESH? BE in the SPIRIT & IN TRUTH THEN U WILL UNDERSTAND?
But The Lord Jesus ate meat he participated in the passover before He died. He gave the disciples fish for breakfast by the sea after He was resurrected.
He rode an unclean animal a donkey into Jerusalem .
In the kingdom Ezekiel tells us there will be animal sacrifices.
Abraham killed a calf to feed his heavenly visitors.
It is obvious the man that was called God’s friend was a meat eater. In the parable the father who represents God killed the fatted calf for a feast of rejoicing for his son .
For SURE all Adventists are not vegetarians. I have an friend who is an Elder in SDA WHO EAT meats. He even has a farm selling sheep and chickens.
Why do you all put bondages on people which the Lord removed
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@@carlnaitram6522 I appreciate your points. I believe as a church we're not trying to make food a bond on members. But I know that historically is has become that and I think we're shifting to having a more balanced perspective on why we choose to change to a plant-based diet. The most powerful point to support a plant-based diet is the evidence given in the Garden of Eden and our pre-sin state. Jesus ate meat but it also wasn't consumed to the same degree as we see meat consumed these days. There is more evidence for Jesus eating fish as a meal, while meat like lamb, was eaten for ceremonial/ feast days, which is very different to eating meat every day.
Thanks for the feedback, Ceilia. I agree, more like God's ideal creation is my preference too. Great verse too!
Romans 14:20
For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
Thanks for sharing the Word Paul. Would appreciate your thoughts on those verses so we can discuss the points that speak to you most
@@sdainsider2185 Eating healthy is a good thing. When a man says God does not want you eat pork or any other meat because it's not clean he is teaching false doctrine. This side of the cross we are free to eat anything that is healthy or clean because God made it clean.
Acts 10:15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
@@paulgemme6056 Thanks so much for the additional information. I would recommend watching the video I have created about pork to get a greater understanding regarding what God said about clean and unclean animals. Also contextually, your reference to Acts 10 :15 is about a vision that Peter was given about the Gospel going to the Gentiles and that no person (not food) is to be called 'common or unclean'. If you read the full chapter, you'll find the interpretation of the vision given to Peter by God in Acts 10:28
@@sdainsider2185 Galatians 3:2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
@@sdainsider2185 One day every false prophet will bow his knee before Christ and proclaim that Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
Thou shalt not have Insulin Resistance
and is the book of Leviticus a lie? or did GOD change our biology to omnivore when he skinned the first animals for clothing do you think GOD would of let the rest of the animals body's go to waste?
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God says he enjoys the sweet savior of animal flesh burning on the alter and when he brings his kindom there will be holy day feast where sacrificial meas will be eaten in the kingdom . Bible widely speaks of eating meat . I love adventest theology but the vegetarian thing is not scripture .its picking a couple versus and leving out so many more .
Jesus ate meat and actually told Peter to bring the fish they got and eat it. So this video is blasphemy and doesn’t make since
Sense 🤣🤣🤣
No they don’t
I’m am one
0:37 - talks about a “whole foods plant based diet.” 0:48 - uses an image of ruminant animal grazing pasture. 😂
EVIL AND OPPRESSION
Isaiah 59:1 Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: 2 But your iniquities have separated. between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear. 3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness. 4 None calleth for justice, nor any pleadeth for truth: they trust in vanity, and speak lies; they conceive mischief, and bring forth iniquity. 5 They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper. 6 Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands. 7 Their feet run to evil, and they make haste to shed innocent blood: their thoughts are thoughts of iniquity; wasting and destruction are in their paths. 8 The way of peace they know not; and there is no judgment in their goings: they have made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace.
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Isaiah 1: 5 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood. 16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; 17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
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Jeremiah 22: 3 Thus saith the LORD; Execute ye judgment and righteousness, and deliver the spoiled out of the hand of the oppressor: and do no wrong, do no violence to the stranger, the fatherless, nor the widow, neither shed innocent blood in this place. 4 For if ye do this thing indeed, then shall there enter in by the gates of this house kings sitting upon the throne of David, riding in chariots and on horses, he, and his servants, and his people. 5 But if ye will not hear these words, I swear by myself, saith the LORD, that this house shall become a desolation.
Genesis 25:28
And Isaac loved Esau, because he did eat of his venison: but Rebekah loved Jacob.
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Hare Krishna r veg
Yes, they are. A cook some great food!
No, I am an adventist and i'm watching this vídeo eating chicken.
Thanks for watching and commenting! I appreciate you confirming that not all SDA are vegetarians and that it’s not a denomination membership ‘requirement’ 🙏🏽
@@sdainsider2185 ha there are some adventists who believe if you eat meat you will go to hell
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" I will hide my eyes from you.
When ye makes many prayers,
I will not hear. For your hands are stained with blood and your mouths defiled by flesh."
Isaiah 1:15
@@johnyap4304 But in this chapter in Isaiah, the profet is talking about sin and violence, not about eating meat. You're taking this verse from it's context.
So much so that in the next verse he says
"Wash and make yourselves clean.
Take your evil deeds out of my sight;
stop doing wrong.
Learn to do right; seek justice.
Defend the oppressed.[a]
Take up the cause of the fatherless;
plead the case of the widow."
It's not about food.
Murder is meat
Thou shall not kill
Sure is.
Valid point. I do think there’s a bit more to discuss in using this point. God ordained the sacrificial service, which called for the killing of animals. Jesus helped Peter catch fish, which would ultimately die. So although the commandment is to not kill we have to look at each application individually.
Do plants have life. then you kill plants to eat them
@@carlnaitram6522 but the cows kill the plants by eating them. Your point is rediculous.
@@CompanionAnimals2011 and so if it is okay for the animals to kill the plants and eat them why is it wrong for human beings to kill the animals and eat them . Did not Abraham kill a calf to prepare food for his “heavenly visitors”. Did not God in His laws told the Israelites to kill a lamb for the passover and eat it. something which the Lord Jesus did himself with His disciples. Regardless how you interpret it God did Tell Peter “arise Kill and eat.
The Priest were given permission to eat of the offered sacrifices. Lev 6:26. several other places where godly men in the old testament killed and ate animals.
The Lord shared fish to feed the multitudes. Also to make breakfast for the disciples on the beach. He certainly did not give them live.
So who are you to say that God was wrong or those godly men to kill the animals for food.
We don't have the huge hind-gut of such as a gorilla, to enable bacteria to convert all their fibrous food into the fat that the body needs.
Ergo, even if we eat vegetarian it would not be the high carbohydrate version usually depicted, instead favouring natural fats such as eggs, olives, avocado, nuts, cheese and coconut, with greens for bulk, and to a lesser extent grains, legumes, root vegetables and fruit.
Vegans have to get B12 from somewhere.