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@@xl081 Why not? Dead City's premiere felt more like the old episodes of TWD rather than what Fear is offering, for example. Make up your own mind, give shit a chance, and THEN decide if it's not for you. Because if you didn't like this episode, then you didn't like Walking Dead from the start.
MORGAN JONES! His story will be the best of all the “spin-off” The Walking Dead shows 👌 Especially once he added an axe blade to his stick! ☝️ I just want to see more of The Civic Republic and the Civic Republic Military now that The Walking Dead: WORLD BEYOND is over. That was amazing to see inside those walls 😩👍
What a ridiculous show. Terrible lazy writing. Generic on every level. Cringe TV. Neon signs and bars in a zombie apocalypse.....LOL! And old timey WANTED posters with a nonsense Wild West vibe.
@@xl081 AMC needs to retire as a network. I am glad HBO proved they can create a truly interesting and engaging zombie show with The Last of US. Walking Dead stopped being fun after season 4
So a couple notes: 1. Lauren Cohan confirmed in press that this show takes place 5-6 years after TWD which concluded chronologically in 2023. This means that it is roughly 18-19 years into the apocalypse (2028-2029), so Hershel is 15-16 years old. 2. The Croat is not someone that we’ve seen before, although considering how massive the Savior group was back in the day and the fact that we don’t know when the Croat split from them, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Considering the fact that every major Savior is either dead or redeemed at this point, it’s more important to get a bigger actor who could successfully embody the role, rather than elevate some minor or background character when they might not be able to fill the main-antagonist role well. It’s also possible that we might seen recreations of that time with the Croat, although if they go overboard it might be a bit much. 3. As far as the Negan-Maggie relationship, the fact that it is so tense is probably a combination of Maggie being in overdrive to get Hershel back (as Negan himself notes) and the fact that they haven’t seen each other in 6-7 years at this point, so there’s definitely a possibility that neither of them know what the other has been doing or whether old habits have re-emerged. 4. While the survivors have covered themselves in guts before, I imagine a significant difference that explains their extreme reaction to the bugs is the fact that the bugs are moving. You can get used to a smell, but having something crawling all over you is pretty much always going to garner a reaction lol. 5. Fun fact for Fear fans, the actress playing the bar owner that Perlie fed to the walkers is Michelle Hurd, who is irl married to Garrett Dillahunt, the actor who played John Dorie Jr.
I've seen in official press from AMC that the show is a 2 year time jump, but that makes no sense given how old Hershel is here. Logan Kim is 16 years old and we ended TWD with Kien Michael Spiller being 8-10 years old. I'm taking Lauren's word for it. JDM also said it was 4 to 5 years after TWD proper ended. Classic TWD being vague with their timelines. Cool fact about Michelle Hurd -- thanks for sharing!
According to Lauren Cohan (Executive Producer/Maggie), the show is "definitely set up to go beyond it's first season". She hopes the show can go as far as a fourth or fifth season.
@@The_Walking_Unknown because TWD was as dead in the ratings as walkers, so a spin off containing 2 known charaters trying to regain and audience that has already run its corse with zombies is unlikely, so pertains to wether the devout stay on course with this whole season then then on with a second season
Well, Maggie tried, but realistically, I don't think anyone could put what happened behind them. The trauma of what happened to Maggie and witnessing her husband's murder still haunts her.
@Xbox One its not fanboy just realistic thinking in 15+ years in a apocalyptic situation. Plus she could've killed him like thousand times and said she doesn't wanna so idk at this point what does she want from him. He literally left after commonwealth and she came lookin for him, complicated tho 😂🙃
@@MasterRiffics She didn't kill anybody in that outpost, at least not during the initial assault. Who cares if they were asleep? Negan would've done no less. Daryl may have gotten Glenn killed, but Negan is the one who killed him and he is the only to blame for directly killing Glenn.
That's gonna haunt her for the REST of her life. There is no "getting over" the image of the love of your life being brutalized like that - right in front of you (while pregnant with your child). You have no choice but to live with that memory. People who don't understand that are have to be young and dumb, lack empathy, or are trolls. Sure, she may tolerate his existence, but he will only ever be a means to an end for her goals. He's a "resource" for her (the same line of logic he used to have when he "had it all"). He isn't her friend, she's not gonna hit him up to break bread and wine, he's a tool to her. Maggie will ALWAYS hate Negan and what he did, and she has every right to.
I think the new villain was a psycho savior that was already there when Negan took over. He did say in the main show how there was some messed up shit going on when he took over. It looks like he may have gotten the iron from Negan
Looks like from the recent episode you was wrong, Negan found the croat and recruited him into the saviors and negan slowly started to notice over time that the croat was crazy so he tried to shoot him but missed and hit his ear so he escaped from negan and wants revenge now.
The intro sequence to this show goes hard and I love it Also fantastic to see Maggie and Negan again, made sense that she’s still tense with him considering she stated she can’t forgive him despite all the good he’s done and plus taking into account how her son was taken and the Croat did the whistle which clearly triggered all these memories back and then seeing him again didn’t help so her mental state clearly isn’t the best which is why I think it’s even more aggressive compared to how we left off. I did think it’s a bit ridiculous that people expect her to just forgive him straight up cuz even though he’s done a lot of good, it’s not something she can just simply get over even after all these years But it will be cool to see how everything progresses, I feel like Negan will feel the real weight of his past actions and the way he used to operate considering the Croat was a saviour
"What else happened?" I don't necessarily think anything else did happen. Maggie got her son taken away from the same group that savagely murdered Glen. She even heard the whistling, so I think it just brought everything back for her
I love a calm villain who seems all there with just a hint of insanity. If Negan says someone is crazy though, you better believe him. I'm Guessing that Zelkjo's character is another Simon, only more calculated.
I think a big reason why they wrote it as Maggie still struggling with forgiving him is because they were looking to bring both new viewers and try to get back some of the viewers that TWD lost and it seemed to me like they were really trying to get the point across that Negan used to be a bad guy and that Maggie is still struggling with what he did. Also, I feel like Herschel being taken has just stirred up so much anger in her that she can’t even attempt to be cordial.
Fun Fact, the actress Michelle Hurd who Maggie stabbed with her boot-spike well on the pool table is married to Garrett Dillahunt who played John Dorie on FTWD.
GREAT premiere. Also, Negan's wife Annie and their kid must've been killed off at some point, probably because of the Marshalls. Negan most likely went after them, killing a few of them or as many as he could, which is why the Marshalls want him so badly. Maybe Maggie will end up sympathizing with Negan if his wife and kid really are dead, but she'll never forget..
For me, this makes sense. It has been years since they saw each other. Maggie had her son kidnapped by a Savior, which brought back old woulds and created a few new ones. Negan might have lost his wife (again) and child. If this was set just right after the last episode, I would agree it wouldn't make sense, but this isn't the case
This premiere episode? Did not disappoint, in my opinion. The acting, cinematography character development/dialogue ..This show as a “spin off w/Walking Dead hard to beat..I enjoyed…Very good..
I just finished watching this as I got the notification! I'm so happy you've reacted to this 😊 I also want to add, I recently got out of the hospital after having emergency brain and stomach surgery and your videos have really helped me through, so thank you! ❤
I actually love how they react to the show and they actually talk during the reaction. Their reaction is honestly priceless and I can’t wait to see the reaction on episodes 2 I sit down and watch their reaction while I’m watching the show. I love you guys.
In twd show with carol and Maggie scene in season 11 where carol is comforting Maggie and In dead city it truly shows how much Maggie struggle to live on without Glenn and how much she misses him and how broken she is
To me it looks like the Croat was burned by the iron 🤔. We have basically little to no info released about it BUT if he was given the iron treatment, it may be possible that he took Hershel in order to get Maggie to bring him Negan for revenge? Not sure tho 😂
Based on what we saw Negan do first hand, and how they kinda focused on it, I'm assuming that Negan is probably the person who destroyed Croats ear. Definitely looks like he gave him the iron.
I think showing the line up and Negan killing Glenn was more for new viewers who has no clue who these characters are. To help them understand exactly why Maggie hates him so much. Talking about it is nothing compared to seeing it happen.
that and Maggie still struggles to live on without Glenn and it’s shown countless times obviously that she misses him so it would make sense that she having nightmares about it
The guy that Plays Croad was the Governor on OZ from HBO and I remember him mostly for his role on Homicide Life On Street from the 90's he was the District Attorney.
You wondered what New York would look like with nobody around or cars... * Well, I was in The City in January 1996 and a huge winter storm came through and closed the city. No cars on the roads but Emergency/Cops/City.... I walked out from my friends Apt, walked down the street EMPTY street... NO sound... walked to the middle of the street and just stood there. It was creepy as HELL. Was anyone else in New York City around Jan. 3-7 ( ?) 1996?
You know I've never been glued to any series as much as The Walking Dead and for amost the full 11 seasons despite the endless heart churning moments in each episode, but i rooted for the big man Rick Grimes all the way through and even felt like i was part of the family. I've never been so immersed in a tv series until now.
Also as far as the motive why this guy took Hershell and how he would know about Maggie and Negans connection is maybe because Croat was in the crowd of all the saviors standing around and saw the lineup when glen got killed. Then later Croat did something to piss off Negan and Negan gave Croat the iron and prob kicked him out of the savior group. Now Croat is getting his revenge on Negan. We'll see 🤷♀️
Logan Kim who plays Hershel Greene-Rhee is 16 years old in real life for what it is worth. On TWD the series ended on day 4,700 ( 12 yrs, 10 months, 20 days ) of the Zombie Apocalypse. The final flashforward scenes take place on day 5,065 ( 13 yrs, 10 months, 20 days ) of the Zombie Apocalypse. Kien Michael Spiller who played Hershel Rhee in SE10 & SE11 of TWD turned 12 in January so he was 10/11 years of age well on TWD. Hershel was 10 yrs of age in the series final episode "Rest in Peace". I'm guess there has been a time jump of 5 possibly 6 years between the ending of TWD and the beginning of TWD: DC.
The Croad is played by the same dude that played the Magistrate in 'True Blood', the one Russell Edgington decapitated after marrying Queen Sophie Ann.
Nikki & Steven, you have seen the actor playing the Croat before. He's Zeljko Ivanek, he played Edmund Burke, the ex-husband of Juliet Burke on LOST. He's the one that got hit by the bus after Juliet "suggested" it to Richard Alpert.
Željko Ivanek who plays "The Croat" is actually from the region, but I don't get a intimidation factor with him. I would have cast Goran Visnjic in that role.
They did amazingly well with Maggie’s dream flashbacks, it was pretty intense and I almost couldn’t watch it. Still worth the watch, damn good work. This show hit differently for me, and watching Negan kill Glenn over and over again, that was hard.
I feel like these people/Marshalls did something to Ann... Maybe this is why he is a wanted man. He killed whoever killed/hurt his new family. I could see him snapping. Maybe what he did to Glenn happened to Ann. Can you imagine. Karma getting him back like that.
I’ve read somewhere it’s been around 3 years since the main show ended. Negan is out doing his thing and Maggie and Hilltop relocated. Curious what’s up with Commonwealth since we took over leadership and we’re rebuilding the communities
I think forgiveness is nessicary to move forward. I understand if she doesn't but forgiveness isn't for the person in the wrong, it's to move forward and it also means you no longer hate that person, hate will drain you.
I liked the first episode. I wasn't blown away by it though. I just have to say that I watch/listen to yall all day long at work every day. So glad that I found you.
The guy who plays "Choat"...I thought I recognized him, too, but he looks so old....so I went searching. His name is Zeljko Ivanek. He played a terrorist in season 1 on 24 (Keifer Sutherland)...of course he was much younger then lol
So from what I heard, Rick and michone are in NY and so are negan and Maggie. Which is so interesting and hopefully they find each other. The only concerning thing is that Daryl is in Paris because he’s kidnapped. And carol is joining the daryl Dixon show for the 2nd season. Sooooo I’m concerned they’ll never find each other again.
Rick and Michonne are in Philadelphia (still not very far). Commonwealth is in Ohio, Alexandria is in Virginia. They’re all within a few hours of each other
@@Philadelphia_Eagles I stopped fear at the end of s4 cause i thought there was no reason to continue and apparently everyone told me it's fine like that ahah
Željko Ivanek is playing the Croat. He played the character Russell Jackson in Madam Secretary from 2014-2019 when the show ended in case you ever watched that. He's a VERY good actor and has done a lot of Theater, a lot of TV and a lot of film. You've probably seen him in something along the way.
good character actor but not really good at intimidation due to his small stature 5'7". They should have gone with Goran Visnjic who has a better look and is 6'4".
They did leave on respected mutual terms and Negan agreed to leave at the end of TWD to make it easier.on everyone. I was irritated too when Maggie still seemed so pissed. I got to talking to my husband though and he brought up a good point. He said even tho they parted in a respectful way for Maggie seeing Negan again brings it all back. She'll always have a hard time seeing Negan again and she'll make sure he never forgets. Good to see y'all doing these! I've had a rough summer with the kids home and hubby working overnights. I need to catch up on SOA reactions on y'all. ♥️♥️♥️
Two questions I have about the episode is why the f did the marshal shoot his guy/hostage? Plus, Maggie, why the heck did you throw away the rifle? It might be loud but it’s better to have it then dump it, never know when it might come in handy.
Of course he didn’t mean to shoot the hostage/his dude. You could see the shock in his face afterwards. He was aiming for Negan but their slightest movements made him miss
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Also don't forget morgan is going out finding rick with his daughter. I don't know how they will handle that timeline wise with that fear TWD mid-season finale timeline
Loved the episode but I don't like how the writers randomly bring the tension back with clear bias over & over... Negan telling Maggie he's not the bad guy when she had done nothing to him at the time when he bashed Glenn's head in is kind of insane because of course that makes you the bad guy TO HER, they should've stopped this convo after S11
Hershel doesn’t even kill Negan in the comic. Hershel was more like Pamela Milton’s son. I think Maggie is not telling Negan the whole story. I’m betting the Croat told Maggie to find Negan and bring him to Manhattan and she took her son as collateral.
Yooo this comment section is dope af. I love reading the takes on all the characters. The thought behind the lore is cool to see! Also doesn’t hurt we got two host that are cool a sheeeet as well!
Željko Ivanek aka "The Croat has never appeared on "The Walking Dead, Steven. He is a new character created for "TWD: Dead City". To the "Lost" fans out there Željko appeared in one episode, as Edmund Burke..
I actually really appreciate the fact that the writers seem to have given Negan a bit of his balls back. Sure, the realistic thing for him to do might have been to just continue to curl up in a ball whenever Maggie growls at him - but that dynamic was done to death 10 times over on the main show.. having him be a little less sympathetic towards her actually adds a little spice to that whole dynamic. With that said.. im sure this'll get really really ugly by the finale.
I think it's actually more realistic this way, because even with his actions, there are so many times someone can patiently wait for others to give them shit without responding. By the time this show started it's been years of Negan redeeming himself and being shit on, so it makes sense for him to be a bit more spiteful, even when Maggie is right and he's in the wrong.
@@jake8269 Word. It's much more realistic this way.. theres also the ever-present question of just how deep this whole "remorse" thing goes with Negan. And this is coming from someone that considers Negan to be the single most interesting and dynamic character that this franchise has. I think theres a natural boundary as to how far they can go with it.. especially considering the general psychology that Negan has displayed over the years - even during the more "intimate" moments between him and Maggie in S11 - the whole "Now I know how you must have felt.." thing.. theres a hint there: "Now I know.." .. "I" being the important part - I still dont think Negan gives a shit about killing Glenn back in the day.. or anyone else for that matter really - he might understand and respect that his actions have had adverse effects on other people.. but theres quite a ways from that realization to actually feeling truly guilty about it.. and I dont think Negan does. I think he's incapable of it. It's sort of the great tragedy of Maggie continuing to orbit around Negan in a way.. theres a sense of her searching for something in him.. but it's not going to come - no matter how long she keeps digging. Atleast not sincerely.
@@vampyre_with_a_suntan yeah, I think there are always a lot of things to consider when it comes to Negan's actions. To me, going from the season 11 finale to this wasn't even that much of a jump, because Maggie and Negan had their talk in a moment of vulnerability and of relief, when things had finally settled down for the first time in a long time. What almost happened to Annie was fresh in his mind and that allowed him to understand and apologize to Maggie, but now? Annie isn't there and Negan's behaviour switches on and off depending on how he feels. He's very self-centered in how he thinks.
I saw that it's been reported that they're getting a season 2 for what it's worth & I just can't see Maggie killing him at this point as she's had numerous chances when he had done less for her and it would be silly imo to have him save Herschel for a second time only to have Herschel kill him. A real twist would be for Herschel to save Negan to show that he's not gonna live in vengeance harkening back to mercy over wrath I don't see why Negan can't get a family at then end of it all;with Annie and his child or to raise Ginny as his own.
I'm late to this as I just watched your video last night. I agree that Negan might/will die at the end but I do not think it will be by Herschel. I don't think Maggie would allow that. I'm thinking he'll go out trying to save Herschel or Maggie from either the Croat or walkers. BUT, I could have sworn I saw something that said this series would renewed for a second season so it would not make sense to kill Negan. Like Nikki, I was not a fan of Negan but I had a change of heart during the last episode of TWD when he and Maggie had talks. Negan was sincere when he was talking to Maggie and he sat and listened as Maggie talked to him. He is no more the annoying gasbag as he was when we first met him. Zeljko Ivanek, who plays the Croat, is a well-known actor. He's been in shows such as Homicide: Life on the Street, 24, Madam Secretary, Banshee, and Big Love, among others.
30:37 Every time this dude opens his mouth all I can hear is "Tell me...are you familiar with the works of Shan Yu?" hahahaha Even down to the hand made torture tools. No originality left. I'll save everyone time. It's all ripped from Adelai Niska of Firefly.
Great start to the new series & great reaction guys! The original the walking dead show I think will forever have the best intro theme music I’ve ever heard from any zombie movie / show . That shit was just so iconic and gave me chills. But yeah I never like hearing about stories off screen & rather we found out what all happened after season 11 of the TWD to show us why negan & maggie left the group back in alexandria where they left off at the end of season 11 of TWD . Like they didn’t show what happened with negans new wife ann not being with them or anything either . And yeah maggie not killing that guy she knocked out on the ground was just showing a example to negan after they had that argument earlier on the boat about killing peoples familes that have kids & such so that’s why she spared the dudes life in front of negan especially after that guy said he has a wife & 3 daughters so . Before negan ever ends up dying I better see rick & negan see eachother one last time cause after seing how different Negan is with how many years has past I wanna see ricks reaction seing him out free still alive & seing negan in shock ricks not dead & etc. And yeah yall must have not paid attention but that marshal guys alive cause it show the scene after maggie & negan taken off with seing him laying on the ground still with hit hat beside him & did they took the camera off that scene & back to it with the guy being gone with his hat still being left on the ground . He’s definitely alive. Kinda ironic enough in this episode with hershel being shown tired to a chair had immediately reminded me of his dad glenn being in that situation in TWD season 3 when glenn was being captured in woodbury by merle & the governor with them just torturing him .
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@@xl081 Why not? Dead City's premiere felt more like the old episodes of TWD rather than what Fear is offering, for example. Make up your own mind, give shit a chance, and THEN decide if it's not for you. Because if you didn't like this episode, then you didn't like Walking Dead from the start.
MORGAN JONES! His story will be the best of all the “spin-off” The Walking Dead shows 👌 Especially once he added an axe blade to his stick! ☝️
I just want to see more of The Civic Republic and the Civic Republic Military now that The Walking Dead: WORLD BEYOND is over. That was amazing to see inside those walls 😩👍
What a ridiculous show. Terrible lazy writing. Generic on every level. Cringe TV. Neon signs and bars in a zombie apocalypse.....LOL! And old timey WANTED posters with a nonsense Wild West vibe.
@@xl081 AMC needs to retire as a network. I am glad HBO proved they can create a truly interesting and engaging zombie show with The Last of US. Walking Dead stopped being fun after season 4
@@ezzzraabarro9544 Then why are you here?
So a couple notes:
1. Lauren Cohan confirmed in press that this show takes place 5-6 years after TWD which concluded chronologically in 2023. This means that it is roughly 18-19 years into the apocalypse (2028-2029), so Hershel is 15-16 years old.
2. The Croat is not someone that we’ve seen before, although considering how massive the Savior group was back in the day and the fact that we don’t know when the Croat split from them, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. Considering the fact that every major Savior is either dead or redeemed at this point, it’s more important to get a bigger actor who could successfully embody the role, rather than elevate some minor or background character when they might not be able to fill the main-antagonist role well. It’s also possible that we might seen recreations of that time with the Croat, although if they go overboard it might be a bit much.
3. As far as the Negan-Maggie relationship, the fact that it is so tense is probably a combination of Maggie being in overdrive to get Hershel back (as Negan himself notes) and the fact that they haven’t seen each other in 6-7 years at this point, so there’s definitely a possibility that neither of them know what the other has been doing or whether old habits have re-emerged.
4. While the survivors have covered themselves in guts before, I imagine a significant difference that explains their extreme reaction to the bugs is the fact that the bugs are moving. You can get used to a smell, but having something crawling all over you is pretty much always going to garner a reaction lol.
5. Fun fact for Fear fans, the actress playing the bar owner that Perlie fed to the walkers is Michelle Hurd, who is irl married to Garrett Dillahunt, the actor who played John Dorie Jr.
I've seen in official press from AMC that the show is a 2 year time jump, but that makes no sense given how old Hershel is here. Logan Kim is 16 years old and we ended TWD with Kien Michael Spiller being 8-10 years old. I'm taking Lauren's word for it. JDM also said it was 4 to 5 years after TWD proper ended. Classic TWD being vague with their timelines. Cool fact about Michelle Hurd -- thanks for sharing!
Yes, Herschel looks maybe 15-16 years old, I guess with all the different storylines, it's hard to have a consistent timeline
I knew she looks familiar!
@@kalenabear Can't go back actor's ages.
According to Lauren Cohan (Executive Producer/Maggie), the show is "definitely set up to go beyond it's first season". She hopes the show can go as far as a fourth or fifth season.
Why she "hopes"?
@@The_Walking_Unknown because TWD was as dead in the ratings as walkers, so a spin off containing 2 known charaters trying to regain and audience that has already run its corse with zombies is unlikely, so pertains to wether the devout stay on course with this whole season then then on with a second season
Well, Maggie tried, but realistically, I don't think anyone could put what happened behind them. The trauma of what happened to Maggie and witnessing her husband's murder still haunts her.
At least he didn't turn to a walker
@Xbox One its not fanboy just realistic thinking in 15+ years in a apocalyptic situation. Plus she could've killed him like thousand times and said she doesn't wanna so idk at this point what does she want from him. He literally left after commonwealth and she came lookin for him, complicated tho 😂🙃
She killed people while they slept, and it's daryl who got glenn killed
@@MasterRiffics She didn't kill anybody in that outpost, at least not during the initial assault. Who cares if they were asleep? Negan would've done no less. Daryl may have gotten Glenn killed, but Negan is the one who killed him and he is the only to blame for directly killing Glenn.
That's gonna haunt her for the REST of her life. There is no "getting over" the image of the love of your life being brutalized like that - right in front of you (while pregnant with your child). You have no choice but to live with that memory. People who don't understand that are have to be young and dumb, lack empathy, or are trolls.
Sure, she may tolerate his existence, but he will only ever be a means to an end for her goals. He's a "resource" for her (the same line of logic he used to have when he "had it all"). He isn't her friend, she's not gonna hit him up to break bread and wine, he's a tool to her. Maggie will ALWAYS hate Negan and what he did, and she has every right to.
maggie has been trying, the fact that she’s even working with negan is proof enough.
I think the new villain was a psycho savior that was already there when Negan took over. He did say in the main show how there was some messed up shit going on when he took over. It looks like he may have gotten the iron from Negan
Looks like from the recent episode you was wrong,
Negan found the croat and recruited him into the saviors and negan slowly started to notice over time that the croat was crazy so he tried to shoot him but missed and hit his ear so he escaped from negan and wants revenge now.
The intro sequence to this show goes hard and I love it
Also fantastic to see Maggie and Negan again, made sense that she’s still tense with him considering she stated she can’t forgive him despite all the good he’s done and plus taking into account how her son was taken and the Croat did the whistle which clearly triggered all these memories back and then seeing him again didn’t help so her mental state clearly isn’t the best which is why I think it’s even more aggressive compared to how we left off. I did think it’s a bit ridiculous that people expect her to just forgive him straight up cuz even though he’s done a lot of good, it’s not something she can just simply get over even after all these years
But it will be cool to see how everything progresses, I feel like Negan will feel the real weight of his past actions and the way he used to operate considering the Croat was a saviour
"What else happened?" I don't necessarily think anything else did happen. Maggie got her son taken away from the same group that savagely murdered Glen. She even heard the whistling, so I think it just brought everything back for her
I don’t think they meant What happened to Maggie they mean when Negan said he had already paid for the pains he’s inflicted
On today's weather forecast, expect heavy walkers! Seriously though, epic start to the show! Zelkjo Ivanek does a great job as a villain!
It’s raining cats and dogs! No wait, I mean it’s raining walkers! Lol loved the episode and the look of the city. It really is apocalyptic perfection
I love a calm villain who seems all there with just a hint of insanity. If Negan says someone is crazy though, you better believe him. I'm Guessing that Zelkjo's character is another Simon, only more calculated.
@@MFBloosh episode 2 looks so exciting and it’s so action packed as well I’m so excited I can’t wait uhhhhh god.
recognize him from west wing?
I liked how negan asked Maggie how many fathers and husbands had she killed, he had a good point.
No he didn't.
@@deckzone3000he really did he killed glen but Maggie has probably killed over 50 of fathers and mothers
@@callumnorris3738 😂 What fanfiction did you get that from?
@@deckzone3000shut up
I think a big reason why they wrote it as Maggie still struggling with forgiving him is because they were looking to bring both new viewers and try to get back some of the viewers that TWD lost and it seemed to me like they were really trying to get the point across that Negan used to be a bad guy and that Maggie is still struggling with what he did.
Also, I feel like Herschel being taken has just stirred up so much anger in her that she can’t even attempt to be cordial.
That's definitely not the reason why they wrote Maggie. It wouldn't make sense
Fun Fact, the actress Michelle Hurd who Maggie stabbed with her boot-spike well on the pool table is married to Garrett Dillahunt who played John Dorie on FTWD.
Nikki during the bug scene had me rolling!!!!!
GREAT premiere. Also, Negan's wife Annie and their kid must've been killed off at some point, probably because of the Marshalls. Negan most likely went after them, killing a few of them or as many as he could, which is why the Marshalls want him so badly. Maybe Maggie will end up sympathizing with Negan if his wife and kid really are dead, but she'll never forget..
Yup! Same thought came to my head. I legit said like they were probably killed off especially when he stated I think I’ve paid for what I did
For me, this makes sense. It has been years since they saw each other. Maggie had her son kidnapped by a Savior, which brought back old woulds and created a few new ones. Negan might have lost his wife (again) and child. If this was set just right after the last episode, I would agree it wouldn't make sense, but this isn't the case
Great episode! The roaches and rat about did me in!! 😂
YES!! I couldn’t remember if y’all were going to react to the spinoffs or not, so happy you are and I’m so ready for this fun ride with you all! ❤😊
It was a GREAT start, one of the best! Amazing story & new villian!
This premiere episode? Did not disappoint, in my opinion. The acting, cinematography character development/dialogue ..This show as a “spin off w/Walking Dead hard to beat..I enjoyed…Very good..
Hell yeah!!! Great start for this show, so happy to see you both checking this out 🥹❤️
I just finished watching this as I got the notification! I'm so happy you've reacted to this 😊
I also want to add, I recently got out of the hospital after having emergency brain and stomach surgery and your videos have really helped me through, so thank you! ❤
Sending YOU lots of healing vibes….
@@jamieminsky9436 Thank you!
Great reaction & a good start off! 2 iconic enemies working together! Looking forward to the next episode & what Negan has in store with Maggie.
I actually love how they react to the show and they actually talk during the reaction. Their reaction is honestly priceless and I can’t wait to see the reaction on episodes 2 I sit down and watch their reaction while I’m watching the show. I love you guys.
In twd show with carol and Maggie scene in season 11 where carol is comforting Maggie and In dead city it truly shows how much Maggie struggle to live on without Glenn and how much she misses him and how broken she is
To me it looks like the Croat was burned by the iron 🤔. We have basically little to no info released about it BUT if he was given the iron treatment, it may be possible that he took Hershel in order to get Maggie to bring him Negan for revenge? Not sure tho 😂
Good point
Based on what we saw Negan do first hand, and how they kinda focused on it, I'm assuming that Negan is probably the person who destroyed Croats ear. Definitely looks like he gave him the iron.
Negan's back, ALRIGHT! 👏
I think showing the line up and Negan killing Glenn was more for new viewers who has no clue who these characters are. To help them understand exactly why Maggie hates him so much. Talking about it is nothing compared to seeing it happen.
that and Maggie still struggles to live on without Glenn and it’s shown countless times obviously that she misses him so it would make sense that she having nightmares about it
The beginning scenes where filmed in NJ near my home town. I saw some of the filming and have pics of Jeffrey 😊
This episode gives a new meaning to "It's raining men, hallelujah It's raining men" 😂😂😂
Glad to be back with you guys😎
The guy that Plays Croad was the Governor on OZ from HBO and I remember him mostly for his role on Homicide Life On Street from the 90's he was the District Attorney.
You wondered what New York would look like with nobody around or cars...
* Well, I was in The City in January 1996 and a huge winter storm came through and closed the city. No cars on the roads but Emergency/Cops/City....
I walked out from my friends Apt, walked down the street EMPTY street... NO sound... walked to the middle of the street and just stood there. It was creepy as HELL.
Was anyone else in New York City around Jan. 3-7 ( ?) 1996?
You know I've never been glued to any series as much as The Walking Dead and for amost the full 11 seasons despite the endless heart churning moments in each episode, but i rooted for the big man Rick Grimes all the way through and even felt like i was part of the family. I've never been so immersed in a tv series until now.
Also as far as the motive why this guy took Hershell and how he would know about Maggie and Negans connection is maybe because Croat was in the crowd of all the saviors standing around and saw the lineup when glen got killed. Then later Croat did something to piss off Negan and Negan gave Croat the iron and prob kicked him out of the savior group. Now Croat is getting his revenge on Negan. We'll see 🤷♀️
Morgan Jones saying he is going back to Alexandria to look for Rick Grimes
Negan and Maggie 🔥🔥🔥🔥
We got The Walking Dead’s version of the Mandolorian, lol!!
Logan Kim who plays Hershel Greene-Rhee is 16 years old in real life for what it is worth.
On TWD the series ended on day 4,700 ( 12 yrs, 10 months, 20 days ) of the Zombie Apocalypse.
The final flashforward scenes take place on day 5,065 ( 13 yrs, 10 months, 20 days ) of the Zombie Apocalypse.
Kien Michael Spiller who played Hershel Rhee in SE10 & SE11 of TWD turned 12 in January so he was 10/11 years of age well on TWD.
Hershel was 10 yrs of age in the series final episode "Rest in Peace".
I'm guess there has been a time jump of 5 possibly 6 years between the ending of TWD and the beginning of TWD: DC.
The Croad is played by the same dude that played the Magistrate in 'True Blood', the one Russell Edgington decapitated after marrying Queen Sophie Ann.
Been watching y’all for years. Love your channel
It has a Escape from New York vibe especially when they arrive to New York
The cockroaches and rat in walker's mouth was a nice touch.
Nikki & Steven, you have seen the actor playing the Croat before. He's Zeljko Ivanek, he played Edmund Burke, the ex-husband of Juliet Burke on LOST. He's the one that got hit by the bus after Juliet "suggested" it to Richard Alpert.
I see one cockroach and I ‘nope’ out lol
Željko Ivanek who plays "The Croat" is actually from the region, but I don't get a intimidation factor with him. I would have cast Goran Visnjic in that role.
Also a leaked photo of Carol for Daryl's show in season 2
LOL “they put Walker guts on their bodies, no big deal” 😂😂
Happy to see y’all back inside TWD universe. Wasn’t sure if y’all were hopping back into the spin-offs. For me personally I like this start.
They did amazingly well with Maggie’s dream flashbacks, it was pretty intense and I almost couldn’t watch it. Still worth the watch, damn good work. This show hit differently for me, and watching Negan kill Glenn over and over again, that was hard.
When Nikki has the herp herp dry heaves, I laugh but i also totally feel it lol
The kid who played as Hershal Rhee is also in Ghostbusters Afterlife.
I feel like these people/Marshalls did something to Ann... Maybe this is why he is a wanted man. He killed whoever killed/hurt his new family. I could see him snapping. Maybe what he did to Glenn happened to Ann. Can you imagine. Karma getting him back like that.
Glad you guys reaction to this I have been waiting to see this and been counting all week 😂
Thank you guys 🎉
Feels good to be watching Walking Dead with ya again :)
I’ve read somewhere it’s been around 3 years since the main show ended. Negan is out doing his thing and Maggie and Hilltop relocated. Curious what’s up with Commonwealth since we took over leadership and we’re rebuilding the communities
AS Grandpa Hershel said : This rage is going to get you killed
I think forgiveness is nessicary to move forward. I understand if she doesn't but forgiveness isn't for the person in the wrong, it's to move forward and it also means you no longer hate that person, hate will drain you.
I liked the first episode. I wasn't blown away by it though. I just have to say that I watch/listen to yall all day long at work every day. So glad that I found you.
Good start. Walking dead will never die❤
The guy who plays "Choat"...I thought I recognized him, too, but he looks so old....so I went searching. His name is Zeljko Ivanek. He played a terrorist in season 1 on 24 (Keifer Sutherland)...of course he was much younger then lol
So from what I heard, Rick and michone are in NY and so are negan and Maggie. Which is so interesting and hopefully they find each other. The only concerning thing is that Daryl is in Paris because he’s kidnapped. And carol is joining the daryl Dixon show for the 2nd season. Sooooo I’m concerned they’ll never find each other again.
Rick and Michonne are in Philadelphia (still not very far). Commonwealth is in Ohio, Alexandria is in Virginia. They’re all within a few hours of each other
The Croat is played by Zeljko Ivanek(Leland Goines in Syfy's 12 Monkeys, Russell Jackson in CBS's Madam Secretary.
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Script is kinda stupid but the gore and setting are so cool plus i love Maggie and Negan that's enough for me!
Better then fear. Also it’s kinda cool, doesn’t need to be breaking bad level of scripts but it makes sense
Are u the stupid one?
@@Philadelphia_Eagles I stopped fear at the end of s4 cause i thought there was no reason to continue and apparently everyone told me it's fine like that ahah
@@Husky92223what's the time In this show? I'm so confused. Is it in the future
@@kaiz2750 Maggie's son looks like he's 13 or 14 so it should be 15 years after season 1, 3 or 4 years after the last season of twd
Željko Ivanek is playing the Croat. He played the character Russell Jackson in Madam Secretary from 2014-2019 when the show ended in case you ever watched that. He's a VERY good actor and has done a lot of Theater, a lot of TV and a lot of film. You've probably seen him in something along the way.
good character actor but not really good at intimidation due to his small stature 5'7". They should have gone with Goran Visnjic who has a better look and is 6'4".
They did leave on respected mutual terms and Negan agreed to leave at the end of TWD to make it easier.on everyone. I was irritated too when Maggie still seemed so pissed. I got to talking to my husband though and he brought up a good point. He said even tho they parted in a respectful way for Maggie seeing Negan again brings it all back. She'll always have a hard time seeing Negan again and she'll make sure he never forgets.
Good to see y'all doing these! I've had a rough summer with the kids home and hubby working overnights. I need to catch up on SOA reactions on y'all. ♥️♥️♥️
that kind of trauma doesn’t just go away, he doesn’t deserve maggie’s forgiveness tbh
Two questions I have about the episode is why the f did the marshal shoot his guy/hostage? Plus, Maggie, why the heck did you throw away the rifle? It might be loud but it’s better to have it then dump it, never know when it might come in handy.
I’m pretty sure he was aiming for Negan but missed horribly but Maggie dropping that rifle was just dumb.
Of course he didn’t mean to shoot the hostage/his dude. You could see the shock in his face afterwards. He was aiming for Negan but their slightest movements made him miss
No body ever brings up Abraham, yes Glen died, but his was Negan being petty, but they feared Abraham.
The way he killed GLEN YOU FORGIVE HIM NOPE!!!!
No one is asking for Negan’s forgiveness
Nikki's reaction to the gore is so cute!
Hello.. It has been awhile since I left a comment. Thank you for being there until the end of the original series... I remembered you guys were the 1st reactor I watched Season 7 episode 1❤❤
I really enjoyed the first episode of this show. Looking forward to more!
Also don't forget morgan is going out finding rick with his daughter. I don't know how they will handle that timeline wise with that fear TWD mid-season finale timeline
I am thinking that Corad was in the saviors before Negan met Rick and the group
Croat
I like Dead City so far, kinda feels like watching TWD, a little bit!
This first episode was pretty dope 😁
I’m so glad you guys do this. I live in the uk and currently can’t watch this new series 😢 so you guys are my way of watching it 😊
Negan put an iron to that mans head!
Looks like he got the iron
Why did Maggie drop the gun is beyond me.
Loved the episode but I don't like how the writers randomly bring the tension back with clear bias over & over... Negan telling Maggie he's not the bad guy when she had done nothing to him at the time when he bashed Glenn's head in is kind of insane because of course that makes you the bad guy TO HER, they should've stopped this convo after S11
Hope we can see older Judith in one of these spinoffs
Coming to NY has Escape from New York vibes
Can't forget about Morgan Jones
Hershel doesn’t even kill Negan in the comic. Hershel was more like Pamela Milton’s son. I think Maggie is not telling Negan the whole story. I’m betting the Croat told Maggie to find Negan and bring him to Manhattan and she took her son as collateral.
Yooo this comment section is dope af. I love reading
the takes on all the characters. The thought behind the lore is cool to see! Also doesn’t hurt we got two host that are cool a sheeeet as well!
Dead City is great 👍🏽
Dead City is set I believe 2 years after the Walking Dead finale
Željko Ivanek aka "The Croat has never appeared on "The Walking Dead, Steven.
He is a new character created for "TWD: Dead City".
To the "Lost" fans out there Željko appeared in one episode, as Edmund Burke..
maggies resentment of negan is one of the more realistic parts of this show imo
Escape From New York feel only with Walkers lol
I actually really appreciate the fact that the writers seem to have given Negan a bit of his balls back.
Sure, the realistic thing for him to do might have been to just continue to curl up in a ball whenever Maggie growls at him - but that dynamic was done to death 10 times over on the main show.. having him be a little less sympathetic towards her actually adds a little spice to that whole dynamic.
With that said.. im sure this'll get really really ugly by the finale.
I think it's actually more realistic this way, because even with his actions, there are so many times someone can patiently wait for others to give them shit without responding. By the time this show started it's been years of Negan redeeming himself and being shit on, so it makes sense for him to be a bit more spiteful, even when Maggie is right and he's in the wrong.
@@jake8269 Word. It's much more realistic this way.. theres also the ever-present question of just how deep this whole "remorse" thing goes with Negan.
And this is coming from someone that considers Negan to be the single most interesting and dynamic character that this franchise has.
I think theres a natural boundary as to how far they can go with it.. especially considering the general psychology that Negan has displayed over the years - even during the more "intimate" moments between him and Maggie in S11 - the whole "Now I know how you must have felt.." thing.. theres a hint there: "Now I know.." .. "I" being the important part - I still dont think Negan gives a shit about killing Glenn back in the day.. or anyone else for that matter really - he might understand and respect that his actions have had adverse effects on other people.. but theres quite a ways from that realization to actually feeling truly guilty about it.. and I dont think Negan does. I think he's incapable of it.
It's sort of the great tragedy of Maggie continuing to orbit around Negan in a way.. theres a sense of her searching for something in him.. but it's not going to come - no matter how long she keeps digging. Atleast not sincerely.
@@vampyre_with_a_suntan yeah, I think there are always a lot of things to consider when it comes to Negan's actions. To me, going from the season 11 finale to this wasn't even that much of a jump, because Maggie and Negan had their talk in a moment of vulnerability and of relief, when things had finally settled down for the first time in a long time. What almost happened to Annie was fresh in his mind and that allowed him to understand and apologize to Maggie, but now? Annie isn't there and Negan's behaviour switches on and off depending on how he feels. He's very self-centered in how he thinks.
I saw that it's been reported that they're getting a season 2 for what it's worth & I just can't see Maggie killing him at this point as she's had numerous chances when he had done less for her and it would be silly imo to have him save Herschel for a second time only to have Herschel kill him. A real twist would be for Herschel to save Negan to show that he's not gonna live in vengeance harkening back to mercy over wrath
I don't see why Negan can't get a family at then end of it all;with Annie and his child or to raise Ginny as his own.
I'm late to this as I just watched your video last night. I agree that Negan might/will die at the end but I do not think it will be by Herschel. I don't think Maggie would allow that. I'm thinking he'll go out trying to save Herschel or Maggie from either the Croat or walkers. BUT, I could have sworn I saw something that said this series would renewed for a second season so it would not make sense to kill Negan. Like Nikki, I was not a fan of Negan but I had a change of heart during the last episode of TWD when he and Maggie had talks. Negan was sincere when he was talking to Maggie and he sat and listened as Maggie talked to him. He is no more the annoying gasbag as he was when we first met him. Zeljko Ivanek, who plays the Croat, is a well-known actor. He's been in shows such as Homicide: Life on the Street, 24, Madam Secretary, Banshee, and Big Love, among others.
Let me save you some time (if you havent already looked thru some episodes about the saviors) he was not in TWD.
30:37 Every time this dude opens his mouth all I can hear is
"Tell me...are you familiar with the works of Shan Yu?" hahahaha
Even down to the hand made torture tools. No originality left.
I'll save everyone time. It's all ripped from Adelai Niska of Firefly.
hey steven is this just so good
I think this takes place years after the finale of the walking dead, they look like they’ve been through it
Great start to the new series & great reaction guys! The original the walking dead show I think will forever have the best intro theme music I’ve ever heard from any zombie movie / show . That shit was just so iconic and gave me chills. But yeah I never like hearing about stories off screen & rather we found out what all happened after season 11 of the TWD to show us why negan & maggie left the group back in alexandria where they left off at the end of season 11 of TWD . Like they didn’t show what happened with negans new wife ann not being with them or anything either . And yeah maggie not killing that guy she knocked out on the ground was just showing a example to negan after they had that argument earlier on the boat about killing peoples familes that have kids & such so that’s why she spared the dudes life in front of negan especially after that guy said he has a wife & 3 daughters so . Before negan ever ends up dying I better see rick & negan see eachother one last time cause after seing how different Negan is with how many years has past I wanna see ricks reaction seing him out free still alive & seing negan in shock ricks not dead & etc. And yeah yall must have not paid attention but that marshal guys alive cause it show the scene after maggie & negan taken off with seing him laying on the ground still with hit hat beside him & did they took the camera off that scene & back to it with the guy being gone with his hat still being left on the ground . He’s definitely alive. Kinda ironic enough in this episode with hershel being shown tired to a chair had immediately reminded me of his dad glenn being in that situation in TWD season 3 when glenn was being captured in woodbury by merle & the governor with them just torturing him .