I want to reduce the force of opening the door, I mean I don't want to use more calories to open the door, How can I do that?☹️ Want to easily open the door without much pressure Please give me a solution
Check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open. The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer/nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. Correspondingly you could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Of course this will affect the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
@@ReviewedByPhildoes this principle still apply regardless of which side the door closer is installed? I have mine on the outside (on the push to open side)
I bought a door closer today. After I installed it, the door can't open. I search on RUclips and found your video. It really explain the part that I don't quite understand. Now, i have a working door closer. Thank you
OH MY GOODNESS! Thank you so much for this video! I bought one online and the instructions were all over the place, they were in english, but my goodness I couldn't follow them with RADAR! Watched your video and it was up within hlaf an hour! You absolute star!
Thanks lots ! I bought one pretty much identical to this but with different brand name and instructions. The instructions were written by some one who has never used a drill or done any DIY at all , and they have also never learned English ! Your video was really helpful and my small DIY job was completed easily !!
I bought a door closer from China which didn't came with any instructions (I think it got lost). But thanks to you I was able to install this door closer. Also because i can clearly see the instructions and all measurements. Thank you!
This is one of the best , if not THE best instructional videos I have ever watched. Clear, easy to understand the step by step process. Thank you very much.
Simple and straightforward. Best video I have watched on door closer. My door is too strong to open and closes too quick with a loud noise.Couldnt find any screw to adjust the a speed of closing or latching.Its a very old product (Union),can u be of help?
Thank you Phil for the video installing the door closer. Your video is way better than the actual installation instruction that came with closer unit itself....
Thanks Phil, I bought one of these, but unbranded and with instructions which were clearly fed through Google Translate, Chinese/English, that defied comprehension. This has made it totally clear what to do. Much appreciated.
Check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open. The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer/nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. Correspondingly you could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Of course this will affect the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
Your video is super good. Very clean, very neat and professional. I enjoyed and learned from you today. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I just bought one of those door closers today.. I was just going to install it and use my (instinct), but I am glad I came across this.. I would have installed it backwards. Thanks again my friend.
Thanks, top job, well purposed , well filmed, well spoken!! How about if I want to keep the door about halfway open temporarily, say needing to go back and forth to the car to get the groceries in?
This particular door opener does not have a lock/stop/freeze function that allows you to hold the door open. You would need to use a door stop or add a kickstand stopper to your door, like these: geni.us/QRQH [Amazon Affiliate Product Link]
I’ve been putting off my installation since my door is hollow. I have a fibreglass door. I feel that I need to buy longer bolts and some stand-offs to stiffen the door. This video was very helpful to me and the detailed instructions was very professional. The way you described each step and what tools to use was spot on. Thanks for making a video:)
I'm normally too impatient,however every moment was worth listening to ,Thanks for such a comprehensive tutorial,it's appreciated,you have a natural Don for teaching keep it up .
i wanted to fit a number of door closers at work and found this is a bit of a challenge. i watched this vid and purchased four onway closers and found thet were so simple to install with the template quick and simple and a good quality product. i cannot recommend them enough.
Phil, great how to videos on your channel. Do you have a video showing the installation of the smart lock on this door? If not can you please tell me what brand and model number is it? Thanks.
If your door is inset/recessed quite a bit, you can still use a door closer, however, you may need to install it with a parallel arm, which requires a separate adapter bracket, not shown in this video.
Hi, thanks for nice video showing details. I’ve metal door. My doubt how the screws hold in metal without nuts. In the long run screws would come out from metal frame if I use it without nut. Request your advice. Kazi
Hm, if your door is a hollow metal door, you can try sleeve nuts and bolts to secure the door closer, like these: geni.us/ATYuY [Amazon Affiliate Product Link] Just make sure they're long enough to fit the thickness of the door plus the depth of the door closer back plate. The hole on the opposite side of the door has to be large enough to insert the tail of the sleeve nut.
Thanks for the video. What do you suggest to make it easiest for the door to open with the least pressure? Works great at closing but not so easy to open. Any suggestions?
I got one but I lost the installation template. May I ask just how many inches from the left edge of the door since mine is exactly the same position with the one in your demo? Thnx a lot for the clear and comprehensive demonstration! Have a good day!
Pretty straightforward video, I followed your instructions and I am done. I still have to figure out a way to make the force needed to open the door less. Ladies complain that they cannot open the door (WC door). I think it has to do with the arm screw point, it reminds me of physics with torque, distance from the pivot axis etc. I will try some combinations.
At 6:51 How do you adjust/reduce the force required to open the door with this model. For older peoples and younger kids the force can be substantial to push or pull open. Some other models have a force control button but this one only have 2 controls button.
Unfortunately, this model does not have a force control mechanism, only primary and secondary closing speed control. In general, the faster the closing speed, the easier it is to open, but the difference is not substantial.
Hello, can it adjust to close the door slowly? I live in highrise condo, often when it windy, my door always slammed so loud & dangerous. Im thinking is this device can counter that
Great video,,, does it stop people slamming the door? My family keeping pulling the door shut hard into the frame and it's driving me crazy. Hoping to install it on a UPVC door :)
Thanks Phil, not sure if they sell same brand in UK but i'm guessing if it has the 2 piston system, then it should perform the same. Simply need to slow right down on the last part of closing, my family keep pulling the door hard into the frame, can feel the house shake hahaha thanks again
great info thanks,i have the same issue with the auto deadbolt wont set or open because of the tension on the shackle plate and cant file anymore without compromising the casing so im wondering does the closure offer some tension on the door when closed to help with this? its a bend in the door and cant fix way too much to replace the thermo door with lead glass etc.
Hm, the short answer is yes, there is some tension ont he door since you need to activate the spring during installation, which applies some pressure to the door. Whether or not this will resolve your issue is unclear.
Just installed one very similar. I am having an issue with added weight for opening. Is there a way to release some of the pressure to make opening the door easier? Thanks in advance.
With most door closers, it's normal for it to add some amount of resistance to the door opening, requiring more force to open it after it has been installed. Check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open. The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. You could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Note that the graphic shows the installation on the opposite side of what I demonstrated in the video. Of course either of these changes would alter the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving the components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
Can I buy hydraulic door closer that can stop in the door open position, say when my hands are full and I do not want the door to automatically close behind me ?
You can setup force you need to open door. Its that two holes where you adjust the speed of closing in two zones. You can turn it counter clock wise and you will open dooe more easily.
The template has points where the holes for the arm attachment should be drilled, yet the instructions make you measure 235mm from the elbow to the frame (when preloading) and drill at the spot. Which confuses many people (I read some reviews).
I have the Yale Assure Lock: geni.us/SwRuyUE [Amazon Affiliate Product Link] There's a touch keypad on the outside of the door so you can enter a code to unlock. I can also unlock with my smartphone using Bluetooth and WiFi with the app or a auto-unlock via geofencing.
Is this correct? My Intuition: slowing the movement of the door closing in either phase increases openning resistance in that phase. With a door closer of the type demonstrated one gets more resistance the faster one attempts to open the door. ?
Actually, I haven't found that to be the case. I believe the reason is because in an oil-filled hydraulic door closer, such as this one, the flow path through the piston upon opening is separate from the return path the oil takes as it travels back into the reservoir (due to a one-way valve), so the door closing speed and adjustments have no bearing on the opening resistance.
@@ReviewedByPhil Thank you so much. I thought it would make sense for there to be a different channels. It is good to hear that you have not found there to be a proportional relationship between opening and closing resistance.
Thanks for this video! It saved my door from banging, my neighbours would love you too! Currently, I feel a slight resistance when the door is opened to abt 80 degrees, though if I use some force, it can open to 90 deg. Do you know how can I adjust it so that there will be no resistance up to 90 deg?
Your door closer would need to have a backcheck set screw. The model I showed in this video only has sweep and latching speed adjustment (the two screws I adjusted at 5:19) so unfortunately the amount of swing, or the total distance it can be opened is not adjustable. If yours has a backcheck, you can turning the valve set screw counter-clockwise to make the door open wider. I believe the only way to make this adjustment with a door closer that doesn't have a backcheck valve is to change the position and length of the arm and bracket mounted to the frame. Increasing the arm length should allow the door to open wider, but changes where the holes need to be drilled from the bracket.
We've had this installed on our door for 1.5 years with 5 people going in an out on a regular basis and we haven't had a problem with the closer becoming loose. Our pull handle we had to tighten recently because we're putting more force on it each time we open the door than we would have if we didn't have the closer installed.
ReviewedByPhil oh nice! Well I did not know you could do that I’m not sure but I’m guessing the wood screw creates a thread in the metal. Also with the handle I had the same problem with the handle as sometimes longer and thicker screws may be needed.
@@fst1775 Yeah, my doors are hollow so the steel is quite thin and putting internal threads for bolts just didn't make sense. As long as you undersize the pilot holes, the wood screw should cut its own threads into the steel sheet as you drill it in.
Great video, much easier to follow than anything else I have seen out there. Quick question though...I had a commercial door closer installed on my office door (it looks a lot like this one). One day, the arm that attaches to the spindle popped off (I wasn't there to see it, I just saw the screw that attaches the arm to the spindle on the floor, and the arm was hanging from the door frame it was attached to). I was wondering what steps are taken in order to fix this? Like would I have to take the arm unit off the door frame and then reattach the arms in the order you took to install this (like by applying that left sided pressure to make it sit at 90 degrees)? I am not handy by any means, and since I never installed it myself, I never saw the instructions or anything. Hence, your video helped me understand the anatomy of it a lot better. When it first happened, I thought I could just put it back on the spindle and screw it (but I realized the arm wasn't at a perfect 90 degrees and the door would only soft close to a certain point, about 8 inches from the lock, and never latch). My attempts at fixing it blindly stopped when I couldn't get the 90 degrees and the arm looked like it was sagging. I sort of came to RUclips to try figuring it out, but it doesn't seem like a lot of people have had this happen. Your video is the only one where I understood the instructions and terminology. Thank you and sorry for the huge question. I figured it was worth a shot.
No, this door closer requires a minimum amount of swing in order to close on its own. In general, I find that the door must be opened at least wide enough to fit a person through the door before it'll close with enough force to latch.
Hi, after I installed the hydraulic door closer, I find it very hard to open. Its tough and I need to push so hard until I feel it hurts my shoulder. Any other way to adjust its strength? Thanks man
Thank youuuuu!!! I got a similar one on amazon and I couldn't make sense of the stupid photo instructions. Luckily I had holes pre drilled from the last one we had years ago which was the same size. I fit it backwards (had adjusters at the door handle side) so I just had to flip it around. I would still be scratching my head if I didn't find this simple video. Good evening! 😂😅
A couple things. Some door closers are designed for heavy doors, like metal fire doors on emergency exits to office buildings, and these will naturally have a heavier spring weight, which if installed on a standard door makes it feel really hard to open. If you're sure you've installed a residential door closer for your type of door (e.g. solid wood, hollow steel, etc) then check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open. The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. This is due to the physics of leverage. Correspondingly you could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Of course this will affect the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
Does it stop the door from swinging all the way ? I don’t want my Door to swing all the way .. does this product solve that problem ? I hope I’m explaining it correctly
Hello Phil, I installed same door closer , just different brand. The door is much heavier to opened now. I tried the adjustment but it didn't seem to be making any difference to force needed to pull door open. The seller isn't really offering any help. Really appreciate if you give some advice. Thanks jl
Hm, with most door closers, it's normal for it to add some amount of resistance to the door opening, requiring more force to open it after it has been installed. Check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open. The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. You could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Note that the graphic shows the installation on the opposite side of what I demonstrated in the video. Of course either of these changes would alter the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving the components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
@@ReviewedByPhil thank you very much Phil for your detail explanation and possible options. I have the same type of closer and will try your suggestions. Thanks again j
Hi. We have a similar looking door closer. But ours is hafele. Anyway, it used to hold the door open at 90 degrees. But just the other day, it wont hold it any longer. I cant seem to find any other screw to adjust it. Help..? Our other bedroom door has the same door closer. And that one holds open.
On the Hafele door closers, the adjust "screws" require an Allen key (hex wrench) rather than a Phillips screwdriver. The ones marked P and BC are for regulating spring power and backcheck. Those marked L and S are for latching speed and door sweep speed. However, to hold the door open usually requires a hold open arm with a friction nut operation. There should be an adjustable nut somewhere along the arm that you likely need to tighten to make the hold open feature work again.
@@ReviewedByPhil Hi, thanks for the reply.. I was somehow able to fix it.. I just adjusted the swing arm so that it rests 90 degrees from the frame.. Also, thanks for all the info, unfortunately, we dont have screws marked P and BC on our door closer.. It just says, 1 2 and D.. But it works fine now.. Thanks for the help :)
Hi guys. Is it possible to get a door closure whereby it will open automatically after I have authenticated myself on an access control device. No need for me to manually open the door. It will open on its own and also close by itself. Is this possible? Thanks
I don't know of one designed and marketed for residential use, however there are a few for commercial applications: geni.us/qvsh [Amazon Affiliate Product Link] These typically come with push to activate buttons, but can also be installed with access keypads or fingerprint scanners as the method of authentication.
I need to replace mine too. its a metal door and I need to buy a drill first.. The instructions was very helpful though. I can get everything needed to do the replacement off amazon.
UPDATE: was able to fix it without buying additional parts! used a screwdriver with square head, flat head, and phillips head to tightenin it, then appiled abit of WD-40. thank you the video was really helpful!
The tension on the center spindle can't be adjusted. It only turns in one direction from the resting position. When you place the arm onto the top of the spindle, see if you can rotate it. Mine rotates counter-clockwise. However, other makes and model door closers may rotate clockwise instead. This will help you determine the door closer's proper orientation on your door.
What is the difference between this model and yale door closer with hold open? It seems the model with hold open does not say it's hydraulic so I'm not sure which is better.
All modern door closers can be divided into two categories-hydraulic (liquid) models and pneumatic (air) units. Pneumatic door closers are generally suited for lightweight doors, like storm doors and screen/glass doors, while hydraulic door closers are generally used with wood, steel, and heavier-duty doors. So your choice of door closer will depend largely on the kind of door you wish to install it on. There are, however, hydraulic door closers that also have a "hold open" function, if you need that feature for a heavy-duty door: geni.us/AriD [Amazon Affiliate Product Link]
@@ReviewedByPhil thanks for the detailed reply couldn’t find any info on the net. Regardless of door weight does it mean hydraulic will last longer because technically its for heavier doors?
@@syunukiya I think that depends largely on frequency of use. Commercial grade door closers are designed to withstand very frequent opening/closing and are typically rated for 10-15 years under such conditions,, while products rated for "light-duty" may only last 5-7 years. Note that hydraulic door closers may not be appropriate for every door type (e.g. full glass doors) and some have minimum door weights, as with lighter doors it may cause them to slam.
I don't think so, as I don't think dry wall would withstand the pressure. I've only ever seen recommendations to install the bracket to a door's frame.
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I want to reduce the force of opening the door,
I mean I don't want to use more calories to open the door,
How can I do that?☹️
Want to easily open the door without much pressure
Please give me a solution
Check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open.
The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer/nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. Correspondingly you could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Of course this will affect the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
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@@ReviewedByPhildoes this principle still apply regardless of which side the door closer is installed? I have mine on the outside (on the push to open side)
I bought a door closer today.
After I installed it, the door can't open. I search on RUclips and found your video. It really explain the part that I don't quite understand. Now, i have a working door closer. Thank you
I can see high standard of communication skills here. All points covered. No single word uttered here is useless. Thank you, from BENGALURU.
You're welcome, and thank you for the positive feedback!
OH MY GOODNESS! Thank you so much for this video! I bought one online and the instructions were all over the place, they were in english, but my goodness I couldn't follow them with RADAR! Watched your video and it was up within hlaf an hour! You absolute star!
Thanks lots ! I bought one pretty much identical to this but with different brand name and instructions. The instructions were written by some one who has never used a drill or done any DIY at all , and they have also never learned English ! Your video was really helpful and my small DIY job was completed easily !!
Great to hear!
Exact same from me. Cheers!
thank you. your explanation is so much better than the yale descripption i got
You're welcome!
I bought a door closer from China which didn't came with any instructions (I think it got lost). But thanks to you I was able to install this door closer. Also because i can clearly see the instructions and all measurements. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
This is one of the best , if not THE best instructional videos I have ever watched. Clear, easy to understand the step by step process. Thank you very much.
Wow, thank you and you're welcome!
Simple and straightforward.
Best video I have watched on door closer.
My door is too strong to open and closes too quick with a loud noise.Couldnt find any screw to adjust the a speed of closing or latching.Its a very old product (Union),can u be of help?
Thank you Phil for the video installing the door closer. Your video is way better than the actual installation instruction that came with closer unit itself....
Thanks and you're welcome!
Thanks Phil, I bought one of these, but unbranded and with instructions which were clearly fed through Google Translate, Chinese/English, that defied comprehension. This has made it totally clear what to do. Much appreciated.
You're welcome! Glad you found this video helpful :-)
Quality machine and very clear guidance thank you. A question please, can the pressure required to open the door be reduced?
Check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open.
The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer/nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. Correspondingly you could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Of course this will affect the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
This is the first video of yours that I have watched. The content is great! Very thorough and informative. Thank you!
Nothing left out. Best helpful video on you tube to date Barr none.
Your video is super good. Very clean, very neat and professional. I enjoyed and learned from you today. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I just bought one of those door closers today.. I was just going to install it and use my (instinct), but I am glad I came across this.. I would have installed it backwards. Thanks again my friend.
Top notch, clear detailed and well demonstrated. 10/10 (Also stating the rule of adjustment screws on the same side as the hinges was a nice touch)
Best review and visual demonstration I have seen; I will certainly use it today. Thank you for posting it.
Thanks, top job, well purposed , well filmed, well spoken!! How about if I want to keep the door about halfway open temporarily, say needing to go back and forth to the car to get the groceries in?
This particular door opener does not have a lock/stop/freeze function that allows you to hold the door open. You would need to use a door stop or add a kickstand stopper to your door, like these: geni.us/QRQH [Amazon Affiliate Product Link]
By far the best guide I have seen. Feel confident I can manage the job now....
Thanks for the compliment!
Great video, thanks. Question: my child commented the door is hard to open, how to adjust to reduce the force necessary to open the door?
Couldn't be explained better than this! Thanks
Just bought one of these but the instructions were in Chinglish with no colour photo's like yours, so this was an excellent instruction guide 🙌
I’ve been putting off my installation since my door is hollow. I have a fibreglass door. I feel that I need to buy longer bolts and some stand-offs to stiffen the door. This video was very helpful to me and the detailed instructions was very professional. The way you described each step and what tools to use was spot on. Thanks for making a video:)
You're welcome and thanks for the compliment!
I'm normally too impatient,however every moment was worth listening to ,Thanks for such a comprehensive tutorial,it's appreciated,you have a natural Don for teaching keep it up .
You're welcome, that's so nice of you to say, thanks!
i wanted to fit a number of door closers at work and found this is a bit of a challenge. i watched this vid and purchased four onway closers and found thet were so simple to install with the template quick and simple and a good quality product. i cannot recommend them enough.
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Wow. One of the best instructional videos I've seen!
Wow, thanks! Glad it helped!
Phil, great how to videos on your channel. Do you have a video showing the installation of the smart lock on this door? If not can you please tell me what brand and model number is it? Thanks.
Very informative video. My door also has a frame around it which is like 2 inches thick. Can I still make a door close work? Thanks
If your door is inset/recessed quite a bit, you can still use a door closer, however, you may need to install it with a parallel arm, which requires a separate adapter bracket, not shown in this video.
Hi, thanks for nice video showing details. I’ve metal door. My doubt how the screws hold in metal without nuts. In the long run screws would come out from metal frame if I use it without nut. Request your advice. Kazi
Hm, if your door is a hollow metal door, you can try sleeve nuts and bolts to secure the door closer, like these: geni.us/ATYuY [Amazon Affiliate Product Link] Just make sure they're long enough to fit the thickness of the door plus the depth of the door closer back plate. The hole on the opposite side of the door has to be large enough to insert the tail of the sleeve nut.
Excellent instructional video. Very clear and concise. Thank you for sharing the knowledge 🙏
Saved me hours of figuring out why I feel like going to the gym when I open my door!! Thanks
Thanks for the video. What do you suggest to make it easiest for the door to open with the least pressure? Works great at closing but not so easy to open. Any suggestions?
Me too 😔
You found any solution yet?
@@KakronaChan yes. It’s worked after a little of bit of use.
This was very helpful. Tips like clockwise is slower, etc helped. Used this tutorial to reinstall my door closer.
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching
Today I wanted Adjest a door Closer I followed this video step by step and Helped me to Completely Install the door closer thank you very much.
You're welcome!
Great illustration. How do I install a door closer to pivot door?
I got one but I lost the installation template. May I ask just how many inches from the left edge of the door since mine is exactly the same position with the one in your demo?
Thnx a lot for the clear and comprehensive demonstration! Have a good day!
3.5 inches.
Thank you and God bless you Phil for the help. I could slowdown my door closer with the help of your teaching.
You are so welcome! 🙌
Very nice and helpful
Nice video 👍 please what type of hydraulic does it use?
Hi Phil, my door closure kit is exactly like yours, can you guide me through a door that opens outwards please
Pretty straightforward video, I followed your instructions and I am done. I still have to figure out a way to make the force needed to open the door less. Ladies complain that they cannot open the door (WC door). I think it has to do with the arm screw point, it reminds me of physics with torque, distance from the pivot axis etc. I will try some combinations.
I'm having the same issue... any solution?
At 6:51 How do you adjust/reduce the force required to open the door with this model. For older peoples and younger kids the force can be substantial to push or pull open. Some other models have a force control button but this one only have 2 controls button.
Unfortunately, this model does not have a force control mechanism, only primary and secondary closing speed control. In general, the faster the closing speed, the easier it is to open, but the difference is not substantial.
How do you install outside swinging door?
Please tell me what is the rule of thumb for distance of closer to the edge of the door (hinge side edge obviously). Thanks
This video is helpful for me to understand the mechanism for dismantling an old one.
I'm glad it was helpful!
I am a bit confused is it better to install the arm 90 degrees to the door or 90 degrees to the door frame (like in this video)?
Thank you l bought one today and could have never done it without your help ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Glad I could help
Absolutely top marks for clarity of explanation
Thanks a bunch!
Hello, can it adjust to close the door slowly? I live in highrise condo, often when it windy, my door always slammed so loud & dangerous. Im thinking is this device can counter that
Thank you for such a wonderful video, can you tell me how much min. space is required on the door frame for the brackets of the swing arm.
Hello, the height of the bracket is 3/4" and its width is 2-1/4".
hello! We are the manufacture and specialized in glass hardware fitting.
Great video,,, does it stop people slamming the door? My family keeping pulling the door shut hard into the frame and it's driving me crazy. Hoping to install it on a UPVC door :)
Yes, the closer should prevent the ability to slam the door shut with excessive force.
Thanks Phil, not sure if they sell same brand in UK but i'm guessing if it has the 2 piston system, then it should perform the same. Simply need to slow right down on the last part of closing, my family keep pulling the door hard into the frame, can feel the house shake hahaha thanks again
Superb review - so thorough yet easy to understand.
great info thanks,i have the same issue with the auto deadbolt wont set or open because of the tension on the shackle plate and cant file anymore without compromising the casing so im wondering does the closure offer some tension on the door when closed to help with this? its a bend in the door and cant fix way too much to replace the thermo door with lead glass etc.
Hm, the short answer is yes, there is some tension ont he door since you need to activate the spring during installation, which applies some pressure to the door. Whether or not this will resolve your issue is unclear.
How do u install one that is a left hand opening door. While installing unit on inside of building???
Just installed one very similar. I am having an issue with added weight for opening.
Is there a way to release some of the pressure to make opening the door easier?
Thanks in advance.
With most door closers, it's normal for it to add some amount of resistance to the door opening, requiring more force to open it after it has been installed. Check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open.
The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. You could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Note that the graphic shows the installation on the opposite side of what I demonstrated in the video. Of course either of these changes would alter the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving the components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
@@ReviewedByPhil Wow. This explaination is gold. Wish youtube paid income for valuable comments.
Can I buy hydraulic door closer that can stop in the door open position, say when my hands are full and I do not want the door to automatically close behind me ?
You can setup force you need to open door. Its that two holes where you adjust the speed of closing in two zones. You can turn it counter clock wise and you will open dooe more easily.
Do these also help agging of the door?
How about making mandatory for all high rise apartments install these Hydraulic Door Closer. EX: fire in Bronx New York.
The template has points where the holes for the arm attachment should be drilled, yet the instructions make you measure 235mm from the elbow to the frame (when preloading) and drill at the spot. Which confuses many people (I read some reviews).
Hey Phil, please share make of your deadbolt please does it unluck via
a fob? Card? Or app
I have the Yale Assure Lock: geni.us/SwRuyUE [Amazon Affiliate Product Link] There's a touch keypad on the outside of the door so you can enter a code to unlock. I can also unlock with my smartphone using Bluetooth and WiFi with the app or a auto-unlock via geofencing.
Best explanation I've found.
Thank you so much! Even when I didn’t need to know how to install it I just needed to know how to adjust the pressure. A great video!
You're welcome! Glad it helped you!
hello! We are the manufacture and specialized in glass hardware fitting.
my door opens outward have no templette and my door hollow cant hold the screw.
I have the same problem. Home Depot entry door. It says metal but it’s hollow. Were you able to solve this?
Is this correct?
My Intuition: slowing the movement of the door closing in either phase increases openning resistance in that phase.
With a door closer of the type demonstrated one gets more resistance the faster one attempts to open the door. ?
Actually, I haven't found that to be the case. I believe the reason is because in an oil-filled hydraulic door closer, such as this one, the flow path through the piston upon opening is separate from the return path the oil takes as it travels back into the reservoir (due to a one-way valve), so the door closing speed and adjustments have no bearing on the opening resistance.
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Thank you so much. I thought it would make sense for there to be a different channels.
It is good to hear that you have not found there to be a proportional relationship between opening and closing resistance.
Thanks for this video! It saved my door from banging, my neighbours would love you too! Currently, I feel a slight resistance when the door is opened to abt 80 degrees, though if I use some force, it can open to 90 deg. Do you know how can I adjust it so that there will be no resistance up to 90 deg?
Your door closer would need to have a backcheck set screw. The model I showed in this video only has sweep and latching speed adjustment (the two screws I adjusted at 5:19) so unfortunately the amount of swing, or the total distance it can be opened is not adjustable. If yours has a backcheck, you can turning the valve set screw counter-clockwise to make the door open wider. I believe the only way to make this adjustment with a door closer that doesn't have a backcheck valve is to change the position and length of the arm and bracket mounted to the frame. Increasing the arm length should allow the door to open wider, but changes where the holes need to be drilled from the bracket.
very good video mate! I did not know you can use wood screws for metal doors. Will this still hold the body securely overtime?
We've had this installed on our door for 1.5 years with 5 people going in an out on a regular basis and we haven't had a problem with the closer becoming loose. Our pull handle we had to tighten recently because we're putting more force on it each time we open the door than we would have if we didn't have the closer installed.
ReviewedByPhil oh nice! Well I did not know you could do that I’m not sure but I’m guessing the wood screw creates a thread in the metal. Also with the handle I had the same problem with the handle as sometimes longer and thicker screws may be needed.
@@fst1775 Yeah, my doors are hollow so the steel is quite thin and putting internal threads for bolts just didn't make sense. As long as you undersize the pilot holes, the wood screw should cut its own threads into the steel sheet as you drill it in.
Ok
Great video, much easier to follow than anything else I have seen out there.
Quick question though...I had a commercial door closer installed on my office door (it looks a lot like this one). One day, the arm that attaches to the spindle popped off (I wasn't there to see it, I just saw the screw that attaches the arm to the spindle on the floor, and the arm was hanging from the door frame it was attached to). I was wondering what steps are taken in order to fix this? Like would I have to take the arm unit off the door frame and then reattach the arms in the order you took to install this (like by applying that left sided pressure to make it sit at 90 degrees)?
I am not handy by any means, and since I never installed it myself, I never saw the instructions or anything. Hence, your video helped me understand the anatomy of it a lot better. When it first happened, I thought I could just put it back on the spindle and screw it (but I realized the arm wasn't at a perfect 90 degrees and the door would only soft close to a certain point, about 8 inches from the lock, and never latch). My attempts at fixing it blindly stopped when I couldn't get the 90 degrees and the arm looked like it was sagging. I sort of came to RUclips to try figuring it out, but it doesn't seem like a lot of people have had this happen. Your video is the only one where I understood the instructions and terminology. Thank you and sorry for the huge question. I figured it was worth a shot.
Hi dear, i have the the same material, but the door is very hard to open, what can be the problem ?
Hi. If the door is opened just .5 to one inch, does it still close properly? This sounds a bit stupid but it's a regulation here in Australia.
No, this door closer requires a minimum amount of swing in order to close on its own. In general, I find that the door must be opened at least wide enough to fit a person through the door before it'll close with enough force to latch.
Exceptionally clear video! Thanks.
Hi, after I installed the hydraulic door closer, I find it very hard to open. Its tough and I need to push so hard until I feel it hurts my shoulder. Any other way to adjust its strength? Thanks man
Wow. Very detailed and easily explained. Great Vid. Thanks!
Can we adjust the hardness of Hydraulic Door Closer?
Thank youuuuu!!! I got a similar one on amazon and I couldn't make sense of the stupid photo instructions. Luckily I had holes pre drilled from the last one we had years ago which was the same size. I fit it backwards (had adjusters at the door handle side) so I just had to flip it around. I would still be scratching my head if I didn't find this simple video. Good evening! 😂😅
I have a yale 4000 smallest template is for a 850 my door is 830 are they still compatible
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With this type of closer, will door be able to fully open and be in a stay position.
Thank you so much, for explaining it so clearly and accurately. I subscribed!
Thanks for the sub!
after fixing it as per instruction. opening door is very hard. any suggestion how to make easy opening of door
A couple things. Some door closers are designed for heavy doors, like metal fire doors on emergency exits to office buildings, and these will naturally have a heavier spring weight, which if installed on a standard door makes it feel really hard to open. If you're sure you've installed a residential door closer for your type of door (e.g. solid wood, hollow steel, etc) then check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open.
The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. This is due to the physics of leverage. Correspondingly you could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Of course this will affect the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
How do you get it not to lock and stay open when you open it up passed 90 degree
i dont have a template how far from the edge of the door do i put the main unit
Does it stop the door from swinging all the way ? I don’t want my
Door to swing all the way .. does this product solve that problem ? I hope
I’m explaining it correctly
No, there's no backcheck feature on this particular door closer, but these types of closer do exist, like this one: geni.us/WcHT0
Hello Phil,
I installed same door closer , just different brand. The door is much heavier to opened now. I tried the adjustment but it didn't seem to be making any difference to force needed to pull door open. The seller isn't really offering any help. Really appreciate if you give some advice. Thanks jl
Hm, with most door closers, it's normal for it to add some amount of resistance to the door opening, requiring more force to open it after it has been installed. Check to see if your door closer has a spring tension adjustment setting. If you have such a setting, you would turn the screw to loosen the spring tension (typically counter-clockwise) to make the door easier to open.
The door closer in this video does not have one, only adjustment screws for door closing and latch speed. So for me the only way to lessen the amount of force needed to open the door would be to install the door closer nearer to the door hinge. The closer the the unit is installed to the hinge side of the door, the less force is required to open the door. You could also adjust the placement of the mounting point of the overhead arm shoe father away from the door hinge to make it easier to open (see 4:48). Here's a simple graphic illustrating this principle: bit.ly/36Wijyh Note that the graphic shows the installation on the opposite side of what I demonstrated in the video. Of course either of these changes would alter the overall opening range of the door, but generally if you're only moving the components a few inches, you won't limit the door opening range in a significant way.
@@ReviewedByPhil thank you very much Phil for your detail explanation and possible options. I have the same type of closer and will try your suggestions.
Thanks again j
Fantastic. Thank you 🙏 and I didn’t read the instructions after watching your video 😅
Hi. We have a similar looking door closer. But ours is hafele. Anyway, it used to hold the door open at 90 degrees. But just the other day, it wont hold it any longer. I cant seem to find any other screw to adjust it. Help..? Our other bedroom door has the same door closer. And that one holds open.
On the Hafele door closers, the adjust "screws" require an Allen key (hex wrench) rather than a Phillips screwdriver. The ones marked P and BC are for regulating spring power and backcheck. Those marked L and S are for latching speed and door sweep speed. However, to hold the door open usually requires a hold open arm with a friction nut operation. There should be an adjustable nut somewhere along the arm that you likely need to tighten to make the hold open feature work again.
@@ReviewedByPhil Hi, thanks for the reply.. I was somehow able to fix it.. I just adjusted the swing arm so that it rests 90 degrees from the frame.. Also, thanks for all the info, unfortunately, we dont have screws marked P and BC on our door closer.. It just says, 1 2 and D.. But it works fine now.. Thanks for the help :)
How many mm is it from the side of the hinges, before you install it
Thanks Phil, your video was very thorough. And actually helped me out!
You're welcome!
Thanks! I have now successfully installed it!
Hi guys. Is it possible to get a door closure whereby it will open automatically after I have authenticated myself on an access control device. No need for me to manually open the door. It will open on its own and also close by itself. Is this possible? Thanks
I don't know of one designed and marketed for residential use, however there are a few for commercial applications: geni.us/qvsh [Amazon Affiliate Product Link] These typically come with push to activate buttons, but can also be installed with access keypads or fingerprint scanners as the method of authentication.
Great video. So glad you went over the uneven door to frame issue
I need to replace mine too. its a metal door and I need to buy a drill first.. The instructions was very helpful though. I can get everything needed to do the replacement off amazon.
UPDATE: was able to fix it without buying additional parts! used a screwdriver with square head, flat head, and phillips head to tightenin it, then appiled abit of WD-40. thank you the video was really helpful!
Merci de m'avoir aidé
How do you loosen the centre spindle that the arm attaches to? Ours does not budge
The tension on the center spindle can't be adjusted. It only turns in one direction from the resting position. When you place the arm onto the top of the spindle, see if you can rotate it. Mine rotates counter-clockwise. However, other makes and model door closers may rotate clockwise instead. This will help you determine the door closer's proper orientation on your door.
I installed the door closer , but now its very hard to open.
Is there any solution for it.
Why yhe geeyes door closer is very hard when its opening. The small kids aren't able to open the door.
Can you give a point to set it up...!!!
Thank you for this.
its a big help. just installed one on my door. and it works perfectly .
What is the difference between this model and yale door closer with hold open? It seems the model with hold open does not say it's hydraulic so I'm not sure which is better.
All modern door closers can be divided into two categories-hydraulic (liquid) models and pneumatic (air) units. Pneumatic door closers are generally suited for lightweight doors, like storm doors and screen/glass doors, while hydraulic door closers are generally used with wood, steel, and heavier-duty doors. So your choice of door closer will depend largely on the kind of door you wish to install it on. There are, however, hydraulic door closers that also have a "hold open" function, if you need that feature for a heavy-duty door: geni.us/AriD [Amazon Affiliate Product Link]
@@ReviewedByPhil thanks for the detailed reply couldn’t find any info on the net. Regardless of door weight does it mean hydraulic will last longer because technically its for heavier doors?
@@syunukiya I think that depends largely on frequency of use. Commercial grade door closers are designed to withstand very frequent opening/closing and are typically rated for 10-15 years under such conditions,, while products rated for "light-duty" may only last 5-7 years. Note that hydraulic door closers may not be appropriate for every door type (e.g. full glass doors) and some have minimum door weights, as with lighter doors it may cause them to slam.
Can we install one side of door closer on drywall I wanna install it on my room door
I don't think so, as I don't think dry wall would withstand the pressure. I've only ever seen recommendations to install the bracket to a door's frame.
Can i put a door closer inside,but the door open outside?
Thanks a Million .Concise and clear and easy to follow !
You're welcome and thanks for the positive feedback!
Excellent i learned about the set screws and the general install thank you
Told me exactly what I needed to know 👌 great informative video many thanks Phil , regards Pete 🤙🏴