My DNA test results - SHOCKING MyHeritage vs. Ancestry results (VLOG) [Kult America]
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- Опубликовано: 6 апр 2021
- Recently I found out that you can download your raw DNA information from Ancestry.com and upload it to other services. Here are my results on My Heritage!
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⚠️ What is your ancestry? I'd love to know where everyone watching is from!! :) ❤️
Didn't do those tests but i know for a fact that from both sides i'm of lords families origin. I for sure have a few % of ukrainian ancestors due to my great grandparent being ukrainian.
@@KHRONOS2232 Cool! Does your family have a crest?
My mom's family is Polish and my dad's family is Jamaican, I am born and raised in Canada. Definitely hoping to do one of these DNA tests soon to see what other ancestry it will uncover! Thanks for all the videos you make Ryan, they are very insightful and extremely well made!
I'm Polish, Irish, German, and English. My Surname is Polish, my great grandfather came to America in 1910 from the town of Wilkowice In the Kingdom of Galicia/Austro-Hungarian empire. I have much family in Poland and in the town of Wilkowice to this day.
According to 23AndMe:
99.4% Eastern European with Poland being a highly likely match (most likely regions: Małopolska (my mother is from here, on my mother's side my grandmother was from Maków Podhalański and my grandfather from Filipowice (near Dunajec, north of Nowy Sącz))), Podkarpacie (my grandmother on my father's side is from the region around Przeworsk), Mazowsze, Podlasie (my grandfather on my father's side was from somewhere around these regions), Silesia etc. Then there's Slovaka being a possible match (most likely regions: Presov, Trencin, Banska Bystrica, Zilina, Kosice). Russia is also a possible match (most likely regions: Moscow, Ivanovo, Vologda etc.). And there's also Hungary (but with no regions specified). I'm also 0.6% Finnish. These things make sense. My grandfather on my father's side had the surname "Rusin", which is a surname that means someone of Rus origin (Russian, Ukrainian or Belarusian). It makes sense that some of my distant relatives on that side of the family were from Russia and mixed with Finns at some point. The Slovakian and Hungarian parts also makes sense since my family is for the most part from southern Poland and at some point probably mixed with Slovaks (who in turn might have previously mixed with Hungarians).
According to MyHeritageDNA I'm 81.8% Eastern European, 12.6% Balkan and 5.6% Baltic. This also makes sense given that the regions defined in MyHeritageDNA are pretty broad, for instance Balkan includes Hungary and Slovakia while Baltic includes parts of Poland, Estonia and Russia. It does however show more detailed clusters, for instance around Nowy Targ and Presov.
According to Family Tree DNA I'm 100% Eastern European and it does specify that I'm 100% West Slavic.
Love the laptop sticker😂
If you have a Romanian grandparent it explains why you have Greek middle eastern italian.
Okay that must be elaborated please. What does Romania connect to italy, greece and especially middle eastern??
@@bangxeloz First of all România is a latin county colonized by italic people, greeks were a continuous presence in România since antiquty, Greek cities like Tomis, Callatis on the shore of Black Sea, also the Fanariot period in the Romanian states since 1720 when greeks stared to be considerable in administration and business. In the Roman period 12% of the tomb stones have greek names and state their place of birth as Greece. Middle eastern because of the Syrian soldiers in the Roman army that stayed and had families.
@@georgegheorghica3734 ευχαριστώ πολύ :)
@@georgegheorghica3734 You forgot to mention Middle Eastern because of recent Ottoman slavery?? That's more plausible rather than Roman Empire
@@k.c7655 Roman Syrian & Turkish(originally Hittites before getting colonized by other people groups)
I'm Armenian. My family has been aoutside of Armenia for the last 500 years, in the middle east. I did the ancestory test and it said 100(!)% Armenian.
Because most of time armenians only hook up with other Armenians
@@polyakadamaltnurdaenjoyer3599 Yes yes, and it's because of where we have been located geographically for centuries, surrounded by..
@@bobobibo2357 Big empires?
@@aromanlegionnair5096 Well yes but the problem was not that, Armenians often have Roman and Greek DNA in them in these tests, but we were mostly surronded by less desireable peoples, as Persians, Arabs, Turks, etc. so we kept to ourselves regarding them. Imagine the Arabs succeded converting the mighty Persians (from their own religion "zaraustranism) to Islam and Arabize them totally, but they failed trying doing the same thing with us. Also we chose to die instead of becoming Turks..
Welcome to the genetic genealogy :) Vital records and DNA are complementary ways of learning our family history. Good luck! :)
I'm from Singapore (my family migrated from southeastern China to Singapore 4 generations ago). My autosomal DNA is pretty much just 100% Chinese, but my paternal lineage Haplogroup N-M231 suggests I share a distant ancestor with the Rurikids of Russia (who established the kingdom of Kievan Rus') as well as Grand Duke Gediminas of Lithuania (the Gediminids) and hence also King Wladyslaw Jagiello of Poland. So that's pretty interesting lol
Wow, that is intense
How do you Know that you share dna With rurikids
@@mohammednorth2660
Mytrueancestry
It's impossible to trace your DNA to certain people like Gediminas, unless you had a direct DNA of him. Unfortunately, nobody knows where he was burried and your claim doesn't make any sense 😒
I appreciate your story, as mine is similar. As far as I know paternal relatives are all Irish, as is my mother's maternal line. Her family name though is, depending on the spelling, German, Polish Russian, Jewish or even Lithuanian. The name ends in -sky, not -ski, and is preceded by syllables similar to place names in an area that was passed around between the Hanseatic League, Poland, Prussia, Sweden, Lithuania and Russia. My suspicion is that my maternal great grandfather was a victim of Prussia's Germanization program. He was, according to family tradition, a Lutheran from Königsberg who never went to church or discussed religion, never talked about his home country and had no desire to return to the New German Empire. Thanks for the great tours of Poland. Niech żyje wolna i demokratyczna Polska!
Russians with "sky" surnames are basically russified Poles. My surname is Czapliński. -ski is typical to Poland in fact.
Interesting! I also liked your own reflection/point of view...
Interesting about the Southern European and Middle Eastern. My mother’s side is from Poland and my father’s side from Ukraine. Did 23 and me. I’m 97.3 % Ashkenazi. No surprise there. The rest is Eastern European, Southern European and Middle Eastern/North African. They’ve actually updated my results since then and now I’m 100% Ashkenazi.
You mentioned a grandparent from Romania. Many Greeks and Italians there.
I am Brazilian. I took the test and it resulted in 13 ancestry, 1/3 Jewish askhenazi, 1/3 Italian and the rest very mixed, including Tupi (Brazilian) Indians, Andean America, England, Maghreb and even Filipino lol.
ruclips.net/video/Xr2CtmpKU6A/видео.html
Mostly english and German, some scottish mixed in
If you have a Romanian grand parent that explains your Italian/Middle Eastern descent. Romania was previously known as Dacia which was conquered by the Romans under the reign of emperor Trajan in the years 101-106 AD. It subsequently became a Roman province for the next 350 years. Dacia was always at the cross roads of Slavic/Roman Europe from one side but also the Byzantine empire and the Middle East from the other.
I uploaded my results on my channel from myheritage. My genetic groups after the update were romania, bulgaria, serbia/Bosnia and Albanian
What DNA test would you recommend for someone of european descent?
The middle eastern part might be simply Jewish Ashkenazi influence. Seems likely for Poland.
That usually comes up as a separate grouping as mine did.
ruclips.net/video/Xr2CtmpKU6A/видео.html
Read this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C5%82adys%C5%82aw_III_of_Poland. Many people from the Balkans who helped the Polish-Hungarian troops, fearing revenge from the Turks, retreated with the surviving soldiers to Hungary and Poland. From the other hand, Romanian people as being part of Bulgarian empire for hundreds of years are also mixed with Balkans people. In the end the Balkan people are very mixed with Greek, Italian and Middle Eastern people during the (East) Roman Empire.
All 8 of my great grandparents left the Austro-Hungarian empire in the first few years of the 20th century. 6 of them were from Galicia within that empire, and the other 2 came from modern day Croatia. Of the Galician 6, 4 identified as Polish, and came from the northern slopes of the Carpathians, southeast of Kraków and a bit north of modern day Slovakia. The other 2 were also from the northern slopes, but were Lemko. Their homeland is also modern day Poland, but much closer to Slovakia, and also near the Ukraine border. All in all, I test 100% ethnically Slavic, and representative of the 3 main tribes: Western, Eastern, and Southern.
@Mike Frazier Ancestry
In my family tree I also have the Labus (Łabuz). They lived in multiple parishes, not necessarily related.
I have answers to your results:
Middle east, Greek and italian toghether might come from a possible ashkenazi ancestor (they were for first a mix of levantine, greek and italian).
Baltic should comes both from your Polish and Romanian sides and comes when slavs mixed with baltic people living togheter for a long time, but a 10% from baltic is a confused part of your native romanian side, then 10% Dacian-Wallachian because MyHeritage has low databese that confuses some gene with others! KEEP IT IN MIND!
and you got 33% Celtic (Irish scottish) cause even Polish and Romanians mixed with celtic tribes in ancient and medievil ages! ;) so an 8% from it comes from your Polish and romanian sides
Very helpful
But if that was the case he would have ashkenazy dna as it's a source population but he doesn't
@@__abdulrahman97 actually the ashkenazi category it Is created by the same company for political agenda, but they even know this mixed category usually includes a mix of South European (Greek or Italian) and some semite-levantine dna
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I would think that the Romans who ruled in the UK is how you got the Italian and Middle East DNA.
Yeah, I was also considering that but I'm so focused on Poland that I don't actually know much else about those family lines. Thank you for the comment!
@@KultAmerica No, in this results You find just ancestors from around last 200 years. The roman blood from centuries ago is now considered british. For older ancestors You can watch on Gedmatch, mytrueancestry, etc.
Or just his Romanian part have Roman blood. You know ROMANia have ROMAN in name. It is not coincidence.
@@elizabethkraszewski6603
Seems like that could ALSO account for the south European element.
@@mikze123 I mean...not to hurt you but the country name was invented in the late 19th century.The people who used to live in those regions were refered to as Wlachs. +Moldavians (but that is a different story).
Your DNA profile (other than your Irish grandpa) is very similar to mine. I also get occasional DNA matches from Greece, Turkey and Italy.
My father was Hungarian, born/raised and he WAS my dad extrapolating between my DNA and a paternal cousin's lineage. My DNA; 35% English, 23% German, 15% Irish, 11% Eastern Euro/Russian, 7% Norwegian, 5% Scottish and 4% Balkan. And I'm def Nordic in appearance.
Details, details, ... Some trace results correlate with my Lithuanian ancestry results, and it took Gedmatch tools to reveal more info hidden away on a few chromosomes that the big Dna testers overlook. Proud to be part Roma. They bring an exhilarating bundle of admixture to the table. Nice video!
MyHeritage also detected a Middle Eastern percentage of 1.2% when I transfered my partner's results from Ancestry. His ancestry is German and Polish on his father's side and I suspected an Ashkenazi Jewish connection. This was confirmed when I found shared dna segments with distant Jewish cousins who had ancestors from the Jewish community of Lomza, Poland.
Hey I’m from Łomża
What about your Ancestry.com results, are they aligned with these ones ( My Heritage ones )...?
Which ones do you prefer???
Those small amounts might show some Jewish heritage as well. Maybe 2-4%.
Witamy, Baltoceltosławie!
I'm 99%Polish and 1% straight up Jewish
Lovely bed frame!
1% Zyd
Polish is Central European.
The Austro-Hungarian Empire did stretch as far south as Bosnia-Hercegovina, which was ruled by the Ottoman Empire for a long time too, thus there was definitely a passageway from the Middle East to Poland via the Balkans. All of my grandparents came from Europe and my paternal grandmother came from Hungary (with a German surname but as of yet, no Germanic DNA) and she had an affair with someone probably from Hungary but with a sizeable Balkan heritage (my dad's entire family sadly has taken that man's name to the grave) so I have a smorgasbord of Eastern European ancestors and DNA that also stretches from Finland and the Baltics down to the Balkans and the Middle East too. Until recently, I never knew I had Eastern European ancestry!
Hi Ryan, where did you do dna tests?
Consider also GedMatch.
German,Irish,sottish and who knows what else.But all I could think about was the beautiful bedroom your in:)
Dlaczego nie można włączyć napisów po Polsku? Powinny być jakieś napisy dla ludzi którzy się uczą angielskiego albo nie znają tego języka w 100%
Przepraszam, zapomniałem:(
Jeżeli się uczą to mają świetną lekcję. Gość mówi bardzo ładnym angielskim więc zamiast się mazać jak kreda na asfalcie korzystaj z okazji.
@@NihonDream A ty się wstydzisz swojego pochodzenia? Uznajesz się za gorszego od ludzi dla których angielski jest językiem ojczystym?
What I find a bit unreliable in this results is that when you get a % of say Italian, it doesn't clarify when in history. Greek colonisation of Sicily and the South? Etruscan vs Roman vs Ligurian ? Before or after the Gothic invasions?
Are results paired with current populations? Some people may characterise themselves one way culturally or even ethnically but genetically it may be different.
As it was pointed out trading migration and several historic factors influence the genetic makeup of a population.
Still interesting.
I guessed that you might have some Romanian in you without knowing you. And look you actually have a Romanian grandfather :D
Greek people founded many colonies along the Black Sea for trade in what is now Romania and Ukraine. You could be descened from those people. Check out this map of Greek settlements on the Black Sea:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_colonisation#Colonies_on_the_Black_Sea_and_Propontis
Ask him for the first time where his Romanian grandfather comes from because he can't be Greek when he doesn't live by the sea and if you know some history you would know that in 1877 in Dobrogea the majority population was Turkish and after the recolonization of Dobrogea with Romanian population things returned to normal
44.9% Scandinavian
37.5% Italian
14.0% English
2.4% Ashkenazi Jewish
1.2% Baltic
My father has 3.5% Ashkenazi Jewish, along with 5.1% West Asian and 0.8% Middle Eastern.
We are Italian Americans, so for him to get Ashkenazi as one of his ethnicities along with Podkarpackie-Poland as one of his genetic regions, very unexpected.
Which of the two tests is better in your opinion?
My ancestry came back as 76% Eastern European and 24% Baltic states. I suppose my Ancestors didn't move much lol
Was I the only one who was expecting DNA results using MyHeritage v Ancestry.com ? Two different set of results.
Pozdrawiam ❤
I would prefer you said we were just the most tolerant county in Europe back then... but yeah, trade contributed to that.
I'm italian and i got:
31.8% Italian
30.5% Scandinavian
24.0% Greek and South Italian
4.8% Mesoamerican and Andean
4.2% Iberian
2.9% Middle Eastern
1.8% West African
There were Greeks fleeing Ottoman Empire ( since Poland and Turkey were neighbours) and settling in Poland, they even were allowed to built their own orthodox churches which were dependent on the Patriarch of Constantinople and not some local orthodox bishop. What you mentioned about Italians in Poland is true but more likely since Venetia and Istria were part of Austria-Hungrary an Italian soldier/officer stationed in polish Galicia married a local girl. What might shock you though...your irish genes might also come from the irsh-scotish settlement which continued from the 16th till 19th century in Poland. And about the middleast Poland fought wars with the Ottoman Empire and there were prisoners of war...
While it is possible that some of your southern European markers could come from a Romanian source, it is also likely that MyHeritage is merely looking at your DNA differently than ancestry DNA and is picking up on something further back. In my experience MyHeritage is somewhat less precise, and at times gives somewhat inaccurate results. The South European and middle eastern can even represent ancient Neolithic farmer ancestry (which is shared by all Europeans, but has a greater preponderance in the south)
I discovered that I have 36 percent Britain and North western Europe. 34 percent Scottish, 11 percent Irish. There was also Norway, Iceland, Switzerland, Belgium, France. Also 11 Welsh.
Wow Icelandic is really unique
The answer is very simple. You have also Jewish Ashkenazy DNA, which consists of 1% of Italian DNA for all Ashkenazi Jews.
Romanian & Baltic languages are not Slavic
I did Ancestry first, then 23andMe.. then also MyHeritage. What I have been hearing from professional genealogists is the MyHeritage is not as good as the other two
No wonder you have some Italian genes: a big part of northern Italy was also part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire (Lombardo-Veneto).
Constituent land of the Austrian Empire (from 1815 to 1866): see map here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Lombardy-Venetia#/media/File:Ethnographic_map_of_austrian_monarchy_czoernig_1855.jpg
3:20 That middle-eastern 1% tells me that one of your ancestors was Ashkenazi.
23andme would give you subregions of countries of recent ancestry, they gave me 7 subregions in ireland,10 in england, 3 in germany 6 in poland and I think as it updates it will add more subregions to my results and ancestrycom and 23andme have invested way more money in Refrence population the myheritage, myheritage hasn't updated their percentage algorithm in about 6 years,while ancestrycom and 23andme have updated several times,though I do like the added genetic communities comparison between dna matches and the chromosome browser which shows triangulation between dna matches of exact or identical dna shared a segment or segments
23andme doesn't do that with everyone. You can have a lot of descent from a place but few matches on the website...so no specific regions.
@@erichamilton3373 maybe but for him it would be
@@erichamilton3373 I've watched dna result videos all companies for at least 2 years to 6 years
From Iraq
you are the best
Have you ever seen the video about my friend from Iraq who became a Polish citizen ? His story is pretty touching.
@@KultAmerica No I did not
I Will see it know
Give the link
@@arkaniraqi3976 ruclips.net/video/bTyvpWbj1lw/видео.html
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What?
You will get notifications with new updates. Your results will change several times. My Jewish, Spanish, Irish, Scottish traces despaired, replaced by Lithuanian and German.
l have a big West asian and south italian and smal italian and askhenazi jew. My Turkic Side from central asian, japanese and korean 🤣, and inuit. YDna halogrup Q most charestistic halogrups in Native american, mesoamerican and andeans. l am from Türkiye. Pray for us. We lost a generation of people from south Anatolian
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I think that middle eastern guy was a soldier from Ottoman army rather than some merchant. 😜
And I doubt that love was involved
Or just from a ashkenazi jew
Great results. Im to from central Europe, former Austria-Hungary. I was thinking, that I will find ancestors from this region. But I found also Bask, Italien, Greek, Finnish... Like You said , Europe is mixed also. Just in the time od communism, we were more closed, but before and now...
you can upload your dna to Gedmatch for free, they display all who are related, though i don't have any close relatives there, i think my family must have travelled allot, as the world test i did last week showed up allot of nations, though most are in UK/EU. These results don't show up on Ancestry nor MyHeritage.
lipka tatar, polish and sicilian!
Well how about this then, the family never really talked about where you came from or anything like that we just got on with our lives, I done a DNA test on my Heritage recently I am 45.3% Irish Scottish Welsh.
27.2% North and West European
20.1% Balkan
7.4% Iberian
All those grandparents going back in time not one of them English, oh well I'm off to drink some Guinness.
Hello my name is Gaith I come from Iraq south of IraqTo be honest with you it could be like that and that's true I mean my cousin there are having blue eyes and some of them green eyes. So the old generation I think they just going everywhere having fun with the ladies from Iraq...
You are the second person from Iraq to comment on this video, I didn't imagine we had any viewers there :) I didn't consider the reverse concept!
@@KultAmerica oh really nice. I didn't meet any iraq person since a long long time.
@@KultAmerica Do you have some European in your admixture which would explain the blue and green eyes in your family?
How you say Przemyśl Sounds funny
Agreed 👍
Funny that you never mention the Germans in your segment, although this ethnic group was ominpresent throughout Eastern Europe, including Romania (Transylvanian Saxons), at least before WWII.
Couldn’t the Italian, Greek, and middle eastern be a single merchant such as a a Venetian Byzantine Greek refugee who ended up in the Ukraine or was part of the Kieran Rus exchange bringing Baltic Amber and furs to the Middle East or spices and incense north.
MyHeritage probably include ancient Greek and Roman DNA. I've got 3% - 4% Italian somehow when from Ireland, but who?
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So I would consider this : Romanian grandfather thus mix of Greek and Roman ; the middle Eater might be some Jews on the way because it is much more likely that at some point you had a Jewish ancestor in Poland than that you had a Greek worker in Poland. Yes it is true that the Polish- Lithuanian Commonwealth was much more culturally diverse than Poland after II WW : Ukrainians from the Steppe regions (with Kozacks) , Lithuanians (although there were little of actually Lithuanian People ), Gypsies and Tatars, Hungarians, Chechs, Slovaks, Prussians and Austrians. And yes European countries were always much more divers than it seemed right after the war when some new countries emerged and borders were shifted. Tracing DNA can also be very problematic because it is more regional than national. So it was always depending on the People who did they think they were like Poles you mentioned - 5 generations of People living without Polish state still considered themselves Polish and spoke polish around their families and thought their children even though they would travel on Austrian, Prussian and Russian passports if they were allowed.
I don t know why but I see that you have the same painting on a wall. Im talking about this with woman and a little girl, which is hanging over the bed. :D Do you have It after your Polish ancestors or what?
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that's a historic palace and not my home. Nice to dream though!
You look Polish to me.
He does but he doesn’t, I’ll put it like that
@@mustasheolll2020 He does 100%.
You should have used 23andme. They are better!
I'm scared of that one because they also tell you what illnesses you are prone to get ! I want to know about my past, but my future can remain a mystery 🤔
@@KultAmerica from what I know you can choose. I did this test like 3 years ago and for the health part you had to pay extra. But I'm not sure because at that moment this feature was unavailable in Poland.
@@KultAmerica Don’t worry you can purchase it separately you don’t need to get both. I just took the Ancestry report but not the health one.
Eastern European, Balkan and Nigerian. I'm Polish born and bred.
It is strange that they have one East Europe region that can be Russia, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Slovakia etc countries. As a Russian, I am feeling that we are not the same people and it is not correct to mix all together in one box.
Yes you are, you are all slavs.
Trade routes, tatars, ottomans, italian migrants etc etc. Great!
Never do dna test.
@Mike Frazier
True.
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The interpretation of DNA test is not scientific, the way this is associated to clusters etc...
I'm pretty sure that your Italian, especially the Middle-Eastern ancestry comes from your Romanian ancestor, because it's incredibly rare in case of Poles to have secondary genes outside of nations that made the Commonwealth, as Poland was always a very hermetic society and established no colonies outside of Europe, while the tertiary genes in case of the average Pole comes directly from German, Austrian, Russian, and occasionally Swedish ancestors, due to local wars, so it's very much an exaggeration to call Poles a mixed-pod, unless we're comparing Poland with the Nordic nations.
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Romanians are related to Italians, they have nothing in common with Slavs. Hungarians also are not Slavs. Russians are partly Mingolians. There is no Eastern Europe.
Romanians are not Slavic ethnic group, but genetic research show that there are mixed with Slavs from medieval. [you know that Romanians and Slavs have common words in language ? and Romania used in some part of time Cyrillic Alphabet]
Same situation is with Hungarians, surrounded by Slavs, Hungarians annexed Slovakia - so they mixed, Poland and Hungary has been same country with on king. Austro Hungary was country without borders with many Slavs in it.
@@Oxnation cyrrilic has never been in use neithe in Poland nor Czechia. Most of foreign words entered Czechia and Poland from the German language.
Very well said at the end. The world is a melting pot and always has been. People have mixed and mingled for millenia.
I think that dna test is real waste of money
Why?
@@robertisham5279 becouse it is based on some assumptions and half-truth regarding People migrations but not the complete and comprehendive knowledge
@@henasgd1566 Thank you for pointing it out ! I thought I am only one with this suspicion! I would like to see their data and methods of research. Because results I see and knowing my country history and history in general those results are conflicting and contradictory!
To be honest ethnicity didn't give me that much. I'm Western European, what ever that means. So far I haven't found any immigrants in the family tree but I've discovered emigrants and many unknown relatives. Which I probably wouldn't have without the DNA matching. This is the most fun and useful part I think.
Good explanation for the results but....perhaps overly complex. Is it not equally likely or more likely that the Italian/Greek heritage comes via your Romanian ancestry. After all Dacia was settled by Roman citizens with Italo-Greek ancestry, hence the name "Romania" - literally Land of the Romans ( or Roman-speakers) to the later Slavs.
As for the Middle-eastern heritage. Poland used to be the centre of the European Jewish (Askenazi) world. Until the Nazi invasion Poland had one the largest Jewish populations in the world. Although your result may not show 'Askenazi' as a specific result, you should note that almost every Jewish male (even if their ancestry is largely made up of Eastern European converts to Judism during the middle ages) has some degree of middle-eastern heritage passed down through the generations.
As a Pole you are statistically far more likely to have distant Askenazi ancestry than some ancestry from a few hundred visiting middle-eastern traders- unless you have direct evidence from genealogical research of course.
While thousands of Eastern European men and women converted to Judism during the middle ages (surprising I know given later events, but remember some parts of Poland were still actually pagan), many families ended up converting to christiainity in later periods to avoid persecution and Pogroms.
Best thing to do is follow the geneology back as far as you can. Although covering up Jewish ancestry was literally of life saving importance in the past and may thus limit finding out the truth.
Am curious. Wouldn´t Ashkenazi ancestry show up thru specific Ashkenazi markers rather than generic Middle Eastern markers?
@@bjornlarby3706 Possibly. But when Jewish people get DNA tests they often get generic 'middle-eastern' haplogroups alongside markers specific to Askenazi , Sephardi and Mizrahi groups. Given the way DNA can be inherited from earlier generations in a random manner it's theoretical possible to get the 'middle-eastern' heritage without the specific markers associated with Jewish populations. You will note I said that Kult America could have Italo-Greek Roman heritage from Romania. Given the extent of the Roman Empire a Roman ancestor could have passed on middle-eastern DNA instead.
Kult America's own theory about his ancestry could be right. I just considered that given that Poland had, from the middle ages until WW2 , a significant portion of its population (amounting to millions of individuals) which possessed Jewish ancestry, it was far more statistically likely that any middle-eastern heritage would have arrived via that path rather than what is likely to be only a few thousand individuals with non-Jewish middle-eastern ancestry. Only two ways of confirming any of this. A) geneological records. Or B) finding specific living individuals who are genetically related to you on Ancestry, My Heritage, Family Tree DNA, etc, etc.
@@simonmoorcroft1417 Thanks for the explanation. I have tried to find out by googling and asking testing companies - without success - if Ashkenazi autosomal markers are more specific than (most) other autosomal ethnicity markers. Theoretically as I understand it it could be since the Ashkenazim are supposed to stem from a small group of people - 3-400 - in the Middle Ages, but I don´t know.
@@bjornlarby3706 No problem. Thanks for the sensible question :) Remember DNA companies info is only as good as their data set and the information given to them. People's ancestry is derived from what they think they are. I.e grandpa told us he was from so and so. The only true comparison is going to be from a sample from an ancient individual.
I'm no expert on Askenazi heritage but it's good to remember that all 'legends' are anecdotal. Genetists can make a educated guess at an original population size. But it's only a guess without direct evidence.
Askenazi DNA markers really mean "common markers from people that largely identify themselves as being Askenazi or having Askenazi ancestors". People can be wrong. Myheritage probably has the best DNA dataset for Jewish groups. It's an Israeli company. Another thing to remember is that Jews were exiled from Palestine nearly two thousand years ago. All Jewish groups are highly mixed, both with their immediate neighbours and with other Jewish populations (Askenazi, Sephardi and Mizrahi). In the past conversion to Judism was actually quite popular, especially in the Eastern Roman Empire and later in eastern Europe. The Askenazi were probably not 'pure' before they arrived in Europe let alone after.
Never the less, thanks to intermarriage between new converts and more ancient Jewish family groups, almost every Jewish person has some middle-eastern DNA.
Just FYI, Poland was never a part of the Austro-Hungarian empire. It was owned by Russia and Germany during that time.
Yes I understand that. I'm referring to Galicia which was an occupied area by the Austro-Hungarian empire, much of which was located in what is now modern day Polska.
All southern and southern-eastern Poland ended up as a part of A-H, starting from 1772 till 1918
So much is bogus. A friend took one, and NO, HE WAS NOT ADOPTED. The test missed his 100% Cherokee Maternal Grandmother! When he tans in the summer, it is different from my German Austrian tan. He glows practically. I merely turn brown. Save your money, in other words.
Spart euch die Mühe und das Geld, solche Tests sind unzuverlässig!
You look kind of Scottish
MyHeritage is not accurate in any way whatsoever when it comes to small percentages. Especially anything below 3%, at that point you can pretty much completely disregard that estimate.
Also I think you're really overestimating the amount of mixing between populations, especially non-white on white.
While those sorts of things certainly did happen, the vast majority of the time the descendants of those mixed couples would fall into gypsy or jewish communities, as no white European at the time would house them let alone have children with them.
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No offense but your history lesson is somewhat imprecise.
Poland was (and still remains) multi ethnic in so far that Norse, Germanic, Jews, Celts, Balts and various Avar and Slavic tribes besides 'the Poles' impacted the DNA.
However, by the first half of the twentieth century which is when your ancestors moved to North America Poland had only three dominant cultures - Poles, Germans and Jews.
It was therefore not 'multicultural' at all. The three dominant cultures interacted and traded but each kept pretty much to its own.
I was speaking comparatively.
Hehehe Romania isn’t a Slavic country -)
I would never want to know my genes. Neither my ancestors. It doesn’t mean anything to me.
@👉𝔽**СК МЕ - СНЕℂ𝕂 РR0FILЕ it is absolutely certain that we all are mixed. Only technically we deem ourselves as confirmed citizens of the country we have been living in. All people I know have some mixture of foreign genes so ....what is the point of thinking who my ancestors were? Besides ....are there better or worse countries? No. All are equal. So we should abandon any attempts to find out who we are genetically. It is completely redundant.
What is shocking about your DNA-results?
That it was different then Ancestry
@@KultAmerica OK. I didn´t understand it right. Thank you for your answer.
@@KultAmerica OK!
I'm indian but the first generation born in Austria
I typed Amerimutt and this came out