Recasting Warhammer Scenery | MASSIVE SILICONE POUR
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
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Minas Tirith, it is here the hammer stroke will fall hardest. Sauron's labour of war is long prepared, and he now unleashes his full might on this bastion of the men of the west. This wargaming scenery and terrain how to make guide explores the mighty city of Minas Tirith perfect for getting you ready for our new Middle Earth Campaign, 'Minas Tirith in Flames'. Lord of the Rings Warhammer is BACK BABY!
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0:00 So it begins....
1:35 Golden Rules of Silicon
2:19 Preparing the Master
3:47 Mold Boxes
5:18 POUR THE SILICON ALREADY
6:49 Not a great start...
7:35 Take 2
8:38 Demolding time!
9:23 Uh oh.....
9:57 Casting begins!
11:33 RECAST MODE ACTIVATED
13:35 More demolding painnnn
14:42 More Casting woes
16:23 The road goes ever on....
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hey I know the molds are already done but in the future its easier and less wasteful to just "brush" on the silicone then after its cured create a simple plaster jacket for what will look like a mountain or plateau of silicon
@@lordcthulhu17 Yeah I haven't work with brush on could be a good option for the future!
Hey question from a fellow Australian here, getting back into the hobby. Where do you get your Matte finish for the last step of your painting. Not sure what local australian brands are actually good or not. Cheers! love your work! it has renewed my love for the hobby and im so keen to Jump back in!
@@tobylancaster3418 For models? I use testors dullcote or Tamiya Flat Clear or GW Munitoruim varnish, al lfrom hobby shops.
For terrain I use MAtt Scenic Sealant from my shop in the description :)
Why did you not super glue your separated mild together?
Just a couple of things from someone who works in film, molding stuff all the time:
You definitely can put two different silicons together in a single mold, as long as the first pour is completely cured (or else the chemicals will mix and neither of them will cure in the join properly) and you KNOW that they can bond together. Generally, a quick look at the chemical compositions should let you know if it'll work or not.
You can also mix two different resins, same deal.
Secondly, please god don't throw away your failed moulds. Cut them into small cubes (like an inch, smaller depending on what you're molding) and put them in your next mold (try spread them throughout the mold - and avoid them touching the cast, or else bubbles). Saves you a ton of resources. We save thousands of dollars this way.
Always pour to the lowest point first to avoid bubbles in the bottom. The reason your first pour didn't work great is because you were pouring onto the highest point.
Coat everything with mold release, especially if it might be a porous surface. Including your general work surface, even if you have something on it. Do this before molding and also before casting.
God, the amount of MDF toppers we have to flip because someone forgot to spray the tables.
Some fantastic points, thanks for taking the time to comment all this Jay :)
I have to say that it didnt work for me in the past. They were both platinum silicons, with different degrees of elasticity. The point they joined was an uncurable mush with very soft detail.
You poor poor bastard. ❤️
Thanks brother ❤ that deck is looking flyyyyy
@@Zorpazorp Mistakes and putting money into the hobby is how we learn. Don't let it bring ya down. You just taught a good lesson.
You meant to say: You, pour, POUR BASTARD! ?
@@flamet
That's what his wallet was saying.
Pissed myself laughing at ‘guess which rules I break!’ I’m guessing all of them? 😂
You know me too well Dazza haha
good recovery lachie, you're doin good
❤ be honest, you're mostly happy I'm no longer bombarding your inbox with my failures 🤣🤣
Jesus mate, that is some dedication. I'm saying this after that 6 hour drive
It was a roughhhhhhh drive home haha, although a much worse time for the poor folk causing all the traffic with the pile ups. That would be some insurance claim!
@@Zorpazorp I bet.
But mind it is looking amazing and genuially cannot wait to see a full blown Assault on the city.
Actually making me want to go an buy a few boxs of Morannon Orcs lol
This was fascinating! This actually makes me really want to try some casting. All the stuff that you did right + wrong is really helpful, thanks for sharing :-)
It's such great fun man, when it works haha!
That work is a work of patience. This man is a man made of Focus, Commitment and sheer Fucking Will.
Hahaha thank you man, some serious willpower was required to get me through this one haha
I really like the way the grout made the master for the stairs, it looked like the dirt that can accumulate in the corner of really old stone stairs.
Exactly!!!! i was so in love with that method!
2 Part molds+ slush casting are the way to go with such large pieces. also dusting the mold with baby powder before each resin pour really helps eliminate surface bubbles
Basically because I built the molds to be super shit but as low cost as possible do they'd only last a few casts and thus are too thin for slush casting :)
I'm so sorry for the failure!!! But you're still an incredible inspiration and my god can't wait to see the project finished!!! I rout for you!!!
Thank you so much Federico!! I hope you've enjoyed the journey so far!
"Things are now in motion that cannot be undone"
I'm building Minas Tirith... and I won't be doing it alone....
@@Zorpazorp "alright then keep your secrets:)"
Just uploaded in time for my lunch, perfect!
Nailed it!
lachie's commitment on this is scaring me 😂
It's scaring me too... and my bank account hahaha
@@Zorpazorp debatably sane australian man files for bankruptcy after failed attempts to get some nice looking stairs (they were very nice stairs)
@@samuelcynthia1958 That's a better title
Zorpbae is love, Zorpbae is life!
- The Book of Kenny, chapter 4, verse 12.
I feel bad seeing the trouble you're going through for this part of the project because of how enthusiastic you are about LoTR and SBGME. But the ending part with the walls and stairways together looks exceptional!
Thanks so much mate! Yeah when they're all painted and assembled in the next video it'll be worth it!
@@Zorpazorp can’t wait! Looking forward to it.
Thanks for taking the time to make videos like this that show how a project can go sideways quickly, but also how to manage something of a graceful recovery
You're very welcome Malcolm!!
I don’t know what’s more traumatic, the casting trials or the traffic tribulations. Can’t wait for the bounce back video, keep up the epic work!
Me neither haha, thanks dude!
"Only 200km away" I absolutely love the dedication. Can't wait for more Minas Tirith
Cheers Turin!!
That was a very impressive recovery. Edit: What level patreon reward do we have to hit for the crying footage?
hahahahahaha
Hahahahahahaha mega zorptrons only Haha
Althoigh the poor patreon did get to hear a lot of my whinging in the discord haha
If I had made this video it would have just been titled “Blue hair girl cries and cries mourning crafting mistakes!” 😂 But hey, I’m glad you still got some copies made and the video was super fun to watch! Thanks for including that clip of me 🤗 and ummm what’s up with that car fire?!?! Lol
You don't go buy resin anywhere in Australia without spending 15 hours longer in the car than you should and passing by something on fire.
Hahaha you are most welcome, thank you for lending me your face! May it appear again soon....
Some poor folks were having a bad day. Luckily they were all safe and sound, but it would have been a scary encounter for them and it made for quite the traffic incident!
@@SledGod84 haha what a lovely corner of the world y’all live in 😉
@@Zorpazorp haha you’re so welcome and yes yes...perhaps there will be more Raqrex & Zorpy friends to come! ✨
Damn dude. What a rollercoaster. I would've probably just cast a flat section of wall or something, then assembled them after. You are a mad scientist for making such complex molds. What's coming next!!!! Excited for more of this build
Cheers Knarby
zorp: but there are several easy golden rules to remember
also zorp: * proceeds to ignore them all *
Thank you for sharing the "don'ts" much appreciated. Not enough youtubers share their mistakes for us to learn from. Thanks again.
My pleasure!
What a monumental effort! Props for sticking with it.
Cheers Viv
I say this is a great story about the power of determination and fixing mistakes on the fly. And it goes with a good lesson: not giving up and working you way through the arising problems is the way to go. And also that we should never mix different types of silicon.
And I think that for an ultimate failure you are still did amazing job at salvaging the situation. Hats off to you.
Thank you so much mate :) :)
"An expert is a guy who did a lot of mistakes."
Thank you for showing us all these mistakes.
We do learn a lot from your mistakes, thank you! And thank you for making fun videos that makes me laugh.
Glad you like them Wark!
The staggering size and scope of this build is madness. Working with new materials always has a learning curve, and thank you for sharing both the success and failures in the process. I've been following the progress since your start last year and It is looking amazing. We are all learning along for the ride.
My pleasure Rodney! Glad you're enjoying the journey mate!
I diddnt even know a silicone specialty store existed in Australia. You absolute legend. Thank you
No problem dude!
Barnes products in Sydney , Brisbane, Melbourne . Another mob in Adelaide and another in Perth . Maybe Tassie too .
"So I'm mixing it!"
😲
"But the brands mix well."
😀
"They didn't bond!"
😱
"I remade the mold!"
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"It could go all wrong!!"
💀
"But it didn't!!!"
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What a rollercoaster of emotion
hahahahahaha yeah what a journey!!
as soon as you said you had a different silicone than normal I knew things were about to go wrong
You are wise Nanuka hahaha
I wish I had this much space at home for such glorious terrain :')
IT does cost a bit haha
Keep up the good work. When we have set backs it drives our knowledge forward.
Man, wow ... I would have just throw everything away in a fit of frustration.
You are one dedicated man with so much willpower.
I hope the rest of the journey is less problematic.
Haha me too Harazhan me tooooooooooooooo
That was absolutely crazy. Too much to learn about casting in only one video. Really inspirational your dedication to your project. It's going to be AWESOME.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video, long but informative and easy to follow for anyone. Nice tips on using the foam or foam core on the outside for pour supports. Cheaper than using wood or plaster and cloth. Gonna have to remember that one.
Great video and some wonderful ingenuity going on here. Glad you were able to salvage the master!
You and me both Poppy!
That is simply stunning, its nice that you share your pain too during the process and then see the positives at the end - also I'm so glad that you guys drive on the correct side of the road! :):)
Thank you so much! and yes we do!!
Leaving a like in memory of that fail. Bless you, and may you recover your sanity soon!
Thank you kindly
That's an insane cost, and I'm so sorry to hear you had such troubles. I started watching your channel with the previous video and I'm looking forward to the end result. You're amazing, keep up the good work!
Thanks for joining me on the journey Zanoth!
As brutal as that was... damn it's starting to look good!!
Wait till next video bro....
😂😂 not laughing at your pain but how you handle with some fun! All in all its a great work! Mistakes happen and you not only learn something with but taught the community what NOT to do! Thank you for that!
There's a reason the voice over is recorded later hahaha, there was many tears and profane venting hahaha
No problem ,happy to be the guinea pig :D
@@Zorpazorp not guinea pig. First to do it alone!
The lesson i have learnt with this video is Musn't mix different silicons.
Good job and i hope you continue making this types of videos
Thanks jesus!! :)
Looks stunning. Cracking job! The final result, considering all the hurdles you encountered, is truly impressive!
Thanks Jimmy, it was a definitely a 100m hurdle sprint!
Damn, really admire you fighting through all those frustrations. Trying a different brand than you're used to and it dissappointing so massively... harsh
Yeah it was toughhhhhh Haha thanks dude!
Great to see you recover from the setbacks and power through to an expensive but impressive win. ;) Nice work Lachie!
Thanks David it was a slog haha!
Wow! That was pretty sick...
I was laughing, flinching, feeling pain end feeling exitement all at the same time - henceforth logically - i am Patreonised! WORD
ICEMANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN you absolute legend
You are truly dedicated to this hobby and at least i know what not to do when i plan on making some silicone casts of a few things!
Thank Horus!
Welcome to the wonderful world of R&D DIY style. :D You spend a lot of money seeing if something works, learning what doesn't, then taking the lessons to make the next try cheaper and more effective. If you don't throw the whole process out the window in frustration first.
So true haha!
Well done for sticking with it! They look great with the walls
Thanks so much! 😊
The road to greatness is paved with the corpses of failed projects of the past lol I can't imagine how many "mistakes" go into something this size. Gondor is going to be utterly glorious when finished though. Really looking forward to that reveal. You're definitely my favourite battlefield crafting channel.
So true mate, sooooo true. Thank you!!
Love it , chap. Its still a lot better then if i would do it. Would not even know where to begin. Keep up the inspirationel work.
You can do it dude!
At least you were able to salvage your mistakes - I wouldn't have had a clue how to go on from there!
Very true indeed haha that GOODNESS I have something to show for it !
What an ordeal! Really felt for you mate, but props to you for pushing forward!
Cheers my man
Thanks to YT algorithm, I watched your video and enjoyed it a lot ! In your conclusion on the cost, I think you also misjudged that you paid the learning curve of the whole process. You learned a lot and I'm sure the return will be paid with the interest in your next project ! Keep up the great work.
Well said Pierre! And I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
As someone who used to do quite a bit of casting, this was very tough for me to watch. However, the project and the amount of detail you're putting into it is inspiring as fuck. I wish I had a Minas Tirith.
Thanks so much Dan :) :)
Your dedication hits that level what my brain just can't process. :D Incredible!
Glad you enjoy it!
Lachie with the tactical thumbnail switch
Yeah the other one was getting terrrrrrrrible click through rate haha, people don't want to see my face apparently!
What an epic journey. On the plus side, all mistakes you won't make again.
Very true....
Fantastic video - the most dramatic story I’ve seen in months 😂
Hahaha thanks Jill!
ah man...so much learning form this project, thank you for uploading your failures, happens to everyone, but helps others not make the same mistake. they pieces do look good though
Cheers buddy, yeah I think they'll be dope when they're painted up
New to the channel and I just want to thank you for sharing your experience. Great lessons for all of us.
Welcome Samyon! Glad you enjoyed it :)
This was really fun to watch, you are truly an inspiration!
Glad you enjoyed it!
My boyfriend said you are a cool person and respect your work mate. I really enjoy the models and the terrain. Thank you. ❤️😊
Thank you kindly Melissa, tell your boyfriend I said thanks :)
So glad it worked out in the end mostly!
Cheers dude! It was a slog but nice to have some cool pieces!
After following along this journey of trials and tests and so much effort and money! I am so willing to come to where we’re the final product will be presented!!!
That's awesome! I'm aiming to try and get it ready for Arda Unleashed 2022, but we shal lsee!
This is just sooooo epic, you sir have the patience of a monk
Haha cheers David!
For more misadventures, try using expanding foam resin. This will reduce your cost of resin dramatically. However, you will need full wooden mold boxes and a mess of clamps to keep it all together.
Will dothanks Rich!!
Well recovered Lachie. Super inspiring project.
Cheers Daley!!
hahaha its funny how we all go through the same process of problem solving. I was thinking about recasting my buildings too, because i do not want to waste hours of time for your great minas tirith project. Let me just say this: we all were at this point ! stay strong and healthy, we will get this project a huge banger TOGETHER
Hell yeah dude!!! That's so exciting!!!
6 hour drive? Damn...I love living in Northern Ireland, it only takes 2 hours to drive from sea to sea across the whole country. Have you got a 3D printer? Maybe smaller, repeatable units are the way forwards, like cubes of brick and little 5 to 10 stair pieces that can be glued together
IT should have only taken two hours back but there were like three huge car accidents and I stopped for dinner haha! So slight exaggeration ;)
@@Zorpazorp Did you cause them trying to get home before the first resin set? lol
That is some dedication xD curious to see the rest of the progress!
Me too hahaha, and thank you!
The Man, The Myth, The Legend ✌️🤪💚
Stop talking about yourself in my comment section Luke.
Yep it's a science and a pain sometimes to cast molds...you did alright especially for the size you poured. That is truly a good looking build!
Thanks so much!
Damn son. Well done, that was quite a triamph.
Cheers buddy!!!
I'm really sorry to see it not working out for you as you had hoped.
The recasts themselves look really good, and it was a good idea, just too bad about the complications.
You're wiser for next time! And highlighted the lesson for everyone else to follow in future.
All the best with this project, your dedication and talent is extraordinary, really inspiring!
Keep your pecker up, we're all rooting for you! :)
Cheers buddy, glad peeps can learn from my foolishness
Awesome content dude, after seeing the problems I broke my RUclips rule and watched the advert in full! Going to be giving some casting a go soon.
Ah thank you so much mate, that genuinely helps put food on the table for me family
DUDE! That's rough, but the casts do look great! Good on you buddy
Cheers Isaac!!
The end result was all good, great job man
Thank you!
Interesting video . Always learning from our mistakes ... and loosing time and money help to remember them !
It does indeed haha thanks mate
mate my heart goes out, keep it up!!
Thanks, will do!
No shadenfreude here. Seeing how folks with more talent and expertise still encounter issues (and how they deal with them) is helpful as I struggle through my own.
That's awesome to hear my dude and thanks so much :)
Hey buddy check out a brush mold with a 2-3 part fiberglass mold. It would save you tons of money on silicone. Just need to make sure you you use a brushable silicone. After the first coast called the "skin" you can use a silicone thickener for all the other layers. It takes more time to set up but much cheaper
Ooooh sounds interesting, will do!!
Just amazing work. You’re incredible.
Thank you so much Dave 😀
Oof man I had seen the pics of the not mixing silicon molds earlier and was gutted. I'm amazed you did so well to recover, if I ever try something remotely similar you can bet I'm going to spend even longer agonising over every step thanks to this 😅 still its gonna be so worth it when its all together. Love your stuff as always keep the spirits up !
Thank you mate will do :D :D
Great Work on the walls:)
Thanks! 😊
Superb advice, once again! 😀👍 And who gave this video a dislike? There must be a Mordor troll out there...
I know, right?
So the lessons are use silicon I know and trust, and seal the foam spacers. Good to know for any future big casting projects.
As long as the extruded poly is dense you won't nee dto seal it :) I was a complete moron there....
Bro I feel for you... I remember my first tragic accident with pinky sil .. at least you got something. Loved the video as always mate
Cheers Chillum!!! Yeah good old silicon haha
Super slick vid man - sorry to hear about the disasters but the end results look great :)
Cheers big fella, come play on it one day
@@Zorpazorp One day!
Tip from having worked with silicone:
1: Keep your silicon from failed casts, cut them into chunks / small cubes. Add then the volumes you are casting.
2: Instead of pouring into a box containing your master, brush on silicone in layers, use a thickener for the final layers. Create a 2 - 3 peice resin mother mould to containe the silicone mould.
3: in this type of mould you can cut a side of the cube so it become easier to demould. place into the resin shell and the cut wont even apear on the cast
check out Brick in the yard and smooth-on youtube channels
Thanks for the tips mate! Will do
Oomoo is a great silicone. I normally get 50+ pulls from my molds. The issue is that these molds should have been multi-part because of the massive complex shapes being pulled out of them.
Aside from that, these are amazing and I cannot wait to see the finished result of the project. 😊
This was fascinating to see your problem solving. Perseverance!
Thanks so much Rey, glad it was a fun journey!
@@Zorpazorp fun and educational, the best kind of fun 👨🎓
Have some silicone casting experience myself and this video was a hard cringe but very relatable. Spend hundreds of dollars myself trying to build pewter spinning molds with varying (meaning mostly zero) success. But props for the recovery that was better than expected, beautiful models.
With the molds you should have cast in layers starting on the lower parts, not just dump everything on top and pray it reaches the bottom. Perhaps even build a small pipe that drains into to the lowest part and pour in there.
If you ever need more time before your mold cures, just put it in the fridge or a cold place. In cold temperatures it takes aeons to cure. Also good for releasing the bubbles.
Thanks so much mate, really handy tips!
for the price of the materials, you could have bought a 2 FDM printers and scanned your structures with photos to print them.
Haha indeed! But then it would be FDM which is still not as nice as resin but getting closer every day!
In fact there is some 3D components in the next video!
13:05 - To made that moldline less obvious, you should've cut by the line where bricks connect.
You are so right Nero!
Damn Lachy! It has been a while for me and I return to such an amazing thing! This project is looking amazing! :D
Well there will always be mistakes when experimenting but the good part is you can learn from them lol.
I'm crossing my fingers here. Good luck on your journey and know that we support you all the way. Even when you cry on tye studio floor xD
Hahaha cheers as always MPL
love the content! keep you chin up
Cheers Dan!!
A great video on the recovery, would be interested to see other recovery videos maybe on some initial model paint jobs
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the journey! That's a cool idea!