Julio Rodriguez is probably going to be a really solid #2 or #3 option in a lineup. Cal is the same way. This team will kind of need an MVP caliber bat. If not, they need 6 guys that can be #2 or #3 guys in the order. You need an incredibly deep lineup or you need two REALLY high level hitters (see 2024 Yankees).
I will never root for the Yankees. Routinely my "Root for Anybody But..." list starts with the Yankees. It is worth noting that I live in upstate NY, LOVE the Mariners, and I'm surrounded by Yankees fans and I can not cheer for them.
Please dissect this trade- STL: M. Mikolas B. Donovan SEA: M. Haniger D. Canzone E. Hancock T. Peete Rationale- STL is hard selling. I think adding a durable arm like Mikolas would give us more value than Haniger at roughly the same price. I am bullish on the offer because I think we will be competing with a lot of teams for Donovan’s services. Donovan is a perfect fit for the org and the offense, prove me wrong 😤
mikolas is one of the worst pitchers in baseball, and donovan isnt better than any of our current outfielders this would be horrible value for the mariners
Cal is a Scott Boras client. This means no extension and getting top dollar on the open market. Scott Boras believes in the bidding wars on the open market
Lyle is enamored by the big spending teams implying that the M’s should follow the $300M plus model. This is not pragmatic for a mid-market team such as the M’s. The M’s pragmatically are exactly in the realm of Detroit. In fact, Detroit has a slightly bigger population than Seattle and a slightly lower TV Media Area, but these two are statically next to each other. Fans like to point out that there is interest in the greater NW. Guess what, when the Blue Jays come to town, a flood of Vancouver fans come to town in their Blue Jays attire. In Montana, Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times followed the Cubs via WGN. Lyle is in denial like some many M’s fans. We like to think that we are in a better market than we are, but statistically speaking (based on Nielsen DMA (Designated Media Area) rankings and the Census), we are not. The teams with $300M plus payroll are in the largest markets in the USA. The path to the World Series approach has to be similar to those mid-market teams that won a WS such as Detroit, KC, and Minnesota. The M’s organization (ownership and front office) are realistic and are making baby steps in that direction, more conservative than a small group of toxic fandom would want. Toxic fans want to change GMs. That’s all fine, but it resets the clock and there are no guarantees that ownership will hire as good a GM as Dipoto. Toxic fans fail to recognize the modicum of success that Dipoto has started, but are willing to throw it all away and resetting the clock again. The M’s history of setting and resetting is cycle that needs to be broken.
Lyle continues the narrative that the Stanton group will not spend. Stanton said that the group won’t spend TOP dollar on aging free agents. That doesn’t preclude signing aging free agents if budget friendly. Stanton believes in the farm system as a pipeline to fill the roster as well as using trades to fill the roster. Free agency is the last resort if the farm or trades won’t be able to fill the holes on team. He stated as much in the 2023 August 10 rooftop interview by Geekwire. Ryan Divish reported this in the Seattle Mailbag article. Stanton is sold on the draft, develop and trade philosophy that Dipoto started that bore 4 straight winning seasons after the step back plan.
@@MarineLayerPod Dipoto had 175 trades in his 9 year tenure according to Seattle Times Sunday. This averages to over 17 per year. Dipoto seems to trade until he finds players that will clicks. The sheer volume is amazing. In doing so, Dipoto didn’t see value in Chris Taylor, Freddy Peralta, and Ketel Marte. Dipoto and company need to do a better in their evaluations which he seems to have rectified in the recent trade deadline (Randy = win, Justin = win, and Chargios = fail). The M’s need to cut down on Retained Salaries to be able to spend more on free agency. Right now, the M’s have $28M in Retained Salaries for 2024 season which is higher than the Yankees $19M to put this into perspective. Hopefully, Dipoto is smart enough to learn from mistakes so the M’s don’t have to eat payroll which will increase even more if the M’s eat Hanigar’s 2025 salary. This hampers the M’s ability to buy into free agency. Dipoto’s mistakes only increases Retained Salaries which, in turn, factors into the overall budget that ownership caps.
Julio Rodriguez is probably going to be a really solid #2 or #3 option in a lineup. Cal is the same way. This team will kind of need an MVP caliber bat. If not, they need 6 guys that can be #2 or #3 guys in the order. You need an incredibly deep lineup or you need two REALLY high level hitters (see 2024 Yankees).
Another superstar bat would go a really long way, that’s for sure!!
Favorite interview episode yet, great stuff guys
Thanks for watching!
I will never root for the Yankees. Routinely my "Root for Anybody But..." list starts with the Yankees. It is worth noting that I live in upstate NY, LOVE the Mariners, and I'm surrounded by Yankees fans and I can not cheer for them.
great show today, lyle you rock on 710
Thanks for watching!
I think Jack forgot to mention Bregman a few times in the best FA names and guys who are getting 100+ million. Adames I think too gets 100+
Can I leave my mail bag Monday question here? Hahaha
Jack is wrong. Luis Castillo is FAAAAAR from untouchable. He would the first name I would offer in a trade long before Bryce Miller.
Miller and Woo are Untouchable
Please dissect this trade-
STL:
M. Mikolas
B. Donovan
SEA:
M. Haniger
D. Canzone
E. Hancock
T. Peete
Rationale-
STL is hard selling.
I think adding a durable arm like Mikolas would give us more value than Haniger at roughly the same price.
I am bullish on the offer because I think we will be competing with a lot of teams for Donovan’s services.
Donovan is a perfect fit for the org and the offense, prove me wrong 😤
Re-comment this when we have a mailbag
mikolas is one of the worst pitchers in baseball, and donovan isnt better than any of our current outfielders this would be horrible value for the mariners
@@Michael-fb3cp Donovan plays 3rd and 2nd and is only first year arb, you casual.
@@Michael-fb3cp and Haniger was one of the worst OF in baseball🤷♂️
Who do the mariners have a better history of fixing, pitchers or hitters?
@@Michael-fb3cp the fact that you only look at Donovan as an outfielder shows how little you know about him as a player.
Cal is a Scott Boras client. This means no extension and getting top dollar on the open market. Scott Boras believes in the bidding wars on the open market
Lyle is enamored by the big spending teams implying that the M’s should follow the $300M plus model. This is not pragmatic for a mid-market team such as the M’s. The M’s pragmatically are exactly in the realm of Detroit. In fact, Detroit has a slightly bigger population than Seattle and a slightly lower TV Media Area, but these two are statically next to each other. Fans like to point out that there is interest in the greater NW. Guess what, when the Blue Jays come to town, a flood of Vancouver fans come to town in their Blue Jays attire. In Montana, Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times followed the Cubs via WGN. Lyle is in denial like some many M’s fans. We like to think that we are in a better market than we are, but statistically speaking (based on Nielsen DMA (Designated Media Area) rankings and the Census), we are not. The teams with $300M plus payroll are in the largest markets in the USA. The path to the World Series approach has to be similar to those mid-market teams that won a WS such as Detroit, KC, and Minnesota. The M’s organization (ownership and front office) are realistic and are making baby steps in that direction, more conservative than a small group of toxic fandom would want. Toxic fans want to change GMs. That’s all fine, but it resets the clock and there are no guarantees that ownership will hire as good a GM as Dipoto. Toxic fans fail to recognize the modicum of success that Dipoto has started, but are willing to throw it all away and resetting the clock again. The M’s history of setting and resetting is cycle that needs to be broken.
Mariners Acquire Bryson Stott
Phillies Acquire Ryan Bliss, Taylor Saucedo
Thoughts?
The Yankees not going no where.
No piching if GURDIANS win they tacare
If tigers win they going to loose.
Go GURDIANS
Lyle seems to have an east coast mentality biased towards spending. I don’t know if he grew up around NY sports.
Why would the Guardians trade him... makes no sense
Arte Moreno and John Fisher have shown how dysfunctional an organizations can be.
I hate the Yankees and will NEVER root for then to Win ANYTHING!!!!
Lyle continues the narrative that the Stanton group will not spend. Stanton said that the group won’t spend TOP dollar on aging free agents. That doesn’t preclude signing aging free agents if budget friendly. Stanton believes in the farm system as a pipeline to fill the roster as well as using trades to fill the roster. Free agency is the last resort if the farm or trades won’t be able to fill the holes on team. He stated as much in the 2023 August 10 rooftop interview by Geekwire. Ryan Divish reported this in the Seattle Mailbag article. Stanton is sold on the draft, develop and trade philosophy that Dipoto started that bore 4 straight winning seasons after the step back plan.
They have done pretty much everything else besides spend top dollar to upgrade the roster. Has it been enough? The results would say no
@@MarineLayerPod Dipoto had 175 trades in his 9 year tenure according to Seattle Times Sunday. This averages to over 17 per year. Dipoto seems to trade until he finds players that will clicks. The sheer volume is amazing. In doing so, Dipoto didn’t see value in Chris Taylor, Freddy Peralta, and Ketel Marte. Dipoto and company need to do a better in their evaluations which he seems to have rectified in the recent trade deadline (Randy = win, Justin = win, and Chargios = fail). The M’s need to cut down on Retained Salaries to be able to spend more on free agency. Right now, the M’s have $28M in Retained Salaries for 2024 season which is higher than the Yankees $19M to put this into perspective. Hopefully, Dipoto is smart enough to learn from mistakes so the M’s don’t have to eat payroll which will increase even more if the M’s eat Hanigar’s 2025 salary. This hampers the M’s ability to buy into free agency. Dipoto’s mistakes only increases Retained Salaries which, in turn, factors into the overall budget that ownership caps.