Sometimes one straight lady will say this to another straight lady as an indication that she would like to makeout with her in a totally straight way. - historians
it would've been very easily happened to me and my best friend, but it didn't who could admit to that much less tell her that was so many yrs. ago, we don't even talk or see each other
As a Spanish I agree. Your name can be Maria. Have Maria first, or second in a two part name. Or you can just have an infinite amount of them in your surnames. Your parents can also be terrible and call you (translate) “Mary Pains” “Mary Anguished” etc. Or call you “Mary Jesus” for that extra religious flare.
Hi Jessica, I work as a guide at Schönbrunn Palace in Vienna, the Habsburg family's summer residence and also the place where Maria Theresias family including Maria Christina and later on, Isabella of Parma with her husband Joseph lived. I really, really, truly appreciate your video and because, as you say, history™ very much paints Isabella and Mimi just as close friends (GAL PALS!) I often tell their love story in my tours to change the narrative around them a bit. Thank you so much for this piece of gay Austrian history that is so often overlooked, also from me personally as a bisexual Austrian woman/historian :D Also, nice work trying to pronounce all of Maria Theresia's titles and the German place names! You did great!
High key im a French major who has to do an Independent study next semester so im thinking about proposing these gay letters in French as a subject piece
Female historical figure: "I am madly in love with a woman." Peers of the historical figure: "These women are so madly in love we compare them to mythological characters." Historians: "Gal pals!"
*Mimi saves over 200 letters from a woman declaring her love for Mimi for over 25 years* Historians: we will never know what their relationship was. Probably just really good friends Smh
"I am madly in love with you virtuously or diabolically. I love you and I will love you to the grave" That's what really good friends say to and about one another, right?
I LOVED THIS! (Also my name is Isabella) It's crazy how as soon as someone "might be gay" it takes like a lie detector test to "prove it" but when someone's straight everyone's like "okay"
Maria Teresa was actually King of Hungary. Like the Main Ruler™. Her husband was King of Austria and she the Queen, but he was like a royal consort to Hungary. Sidenote - Mimi's palace was built from scratch next to the old, cold castle. Said castle is being reconstructed to include the baroque palace and gardens from Mimi's time. Big bro Joseph was responsible for the accident that caused the castle to burn down, it stayed like that until 1960' when it was reconstructed. But the baroque parts are an addition from the early 2010'. I happen to be a tour guide for that city. Hit me up, if your in the area.
Sorry but this is all wrong! Maria Theresia was arch duchess of her ancestral lands (including but certainly not limited to Austria), after the death of her father, which were part of the German Holy Roman Empire. She was also Queen of Hungary (which was much bigger than it is today). Her Husband was also Holy Roman Emperor after Maria Theresia dad (something woman could not be).
@@Persephonemybff what exactly are your sources on this? I agree on her husband being the Holy Roman Emperor, but she was King of Hungary as the nobles pledged their allegiance to her specifically. MT led a war with Prussia mostly to secure her kingdom+inheritance and won because of this help from Hungary. Here's the link to the Coronation Church where she was crowned. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Martin%27s_Cathedral,_Bratislava Notice how there is no epithet like wife of next to her name? It's because she was no appendage to a male ruler for Hungary. She was the ruler, which at that time was shown by giving her the title of King.
@@Persephonemybff prefacing your statement with "this is all wrong" is unclear on you agreeing with some of my statement. Sorry. MT also definitely was Queen of Austria. We even learn about her as Empress in grade school because the Austrio-Hungarian monarchy used the title of Kaiser which is emperor in translation. K und K in German means königlich (King's) and kaiserlich (kaizer's/emperor's) Monarchie/y.
@@TonyThimbleok here is were u got confused: the K&K monarchy was established nearly 100 years after Maria Theresia died. It was established by Franz II. who was the last holy roman Emperor, dissolved the holy roman empire and made himself Franz I of the Austro Hungarian empire. During Maria Theresia time, Austria was still a particularly the Holy Roman Empire, therefore it could not have a king, it was an arch duchy (Erzherzogtum). Maria Theresia is referred to as empress because her husband was Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. She herself, in her own right, was "only" arch duchess under him. Does that clear things up?
isabella: "mimi. my most precious treasure. i love you so much i can't stand it. i'm madly in love with you." historians: "adorable! they were GAL PALS :)"
4:42 WTF they were ALL called Maria??? and two were both called "Maria Elisabeth" and THREE were called "Maria Carolina"??? I actually cannot.... what were the parents thinking?????????
The Habsburg's were super Catholic and Mary (Maria in German) was one of the family's patron saints, that's why all of the girls carried her name (Joseph, for example, was one for the boys). The multiple Maria Elisabeth's and Maria Carolina's did happen because the older one's died as infants, so they were reusing their names.
I think that used to be a common thing to do. Just look at Johann Sebastian Bach and his father, brothers and sons. And the first Maria Elisabeth died after three years while both Maria Karolinas didn't live for more than one year, so the names were reused.
One of my teachers said that back in the renaissance they didn't care about sexual orientation and it low-key triggered me because I remembered not only this story but plenty more
Oh my goodness a historical mini series of these princesses would be so good! I would watch the heck out of that. I don't even mind that she falls in love with a man at the end because like you emphasized, bisexuals exist :)
The writing are so emotional and beautiful omg. I know it's not so exactly related, but exists this kind of genre on manga called "isekai" (protagonist who appears on another world, usually magical, fantasy and so) and inside this genre exists a ton of webcomics with these background but the protagonist being the Villainess and knowing the story she is trapped (usually a book or a game with lots of dresses, swords etc). She starts changing this world for good and then being loved not only by the male princes but the princess as well. I find lovely
My mom grew up in Spain in a Catholic family, and she and all her sisters' first names are Maria, and then they all have different middle names that they go by.
My father's family was catholic, and his mother's generation were *all* named Mary. my nana was the eldest, so she was the only one of the ~10 sisters that actually _went by_ Mary, while the rest went by their middle names (which doubled as their confirmation names, and often they took them on legally after marriage - Mary Theresa Cabin might become Theresa Cabin LaRose, for example). Confusingly, my nana and her (1-2 years younger) sister actually had the _exact same name_ - they were both Mary Alice, but my nana went by Mary + her sister went by Alice 😹
That’s funny, in the catholic part of canada it was still common in the 90s to do the opposite. Give regular names to girls but then give them all the middle name Mary which never gets used. Same with boys and Joseph.
Mimi's life may have mirrored that of every lesbian movie that came after, but it is lovely that she did get a "happily ever after" at the end with a man whom she loved and who sounds like a class act. Preserving and publishing Isabella's love letters to his wife, clearly (to me) because he understood how cherished that relationship had been, is such a beautiful act of devotion by Prince Albert. Of course we all wish Isabella herself had a happier fate, but I personally have no doubt that she'd be glad that her love ended up with someone who valued and respected her so.
As an Austrian bisexual lass who has studied the Habsburgs, especially the very likely gay Empress Elisabeth of Austria, for over two decades I just wanted to say that you did GREAT here. The pronunciations, the history, everything really. I had read about Isabella's and Mimi's relationship before and it's such a joy to see her pop up here. The poor girls deserved more time together, it's so tragic that Isabella and her daughter died so young!
can you do an episode on asexuals? i know there is a lot of other stuff to go through, but it would be cool to learn about asexual figures from history :)
Speaking of Marie Antoinette, she may have also been bisexual or lesbian. She had great love for the Princesse de Lamballe and was instantly smitten by the Duchess of Polignac. Marie Antoinette's affection for both women was documented in personal letters as well as contemporary writing of the time.
If I was a teacher I'd want to do a small part of each class giving mini lessons about lgbtq+ history, black and African american history, and teach about different cultures around the world.
Wouldn’t you began with INDIGENOUS NATIVE NORTH AMERICANS/MEXICANS FIRST I MEAN IF U LIVE IN NORTH AMERICA OTHERWISE ITS JUST HALF TRUTHS AND HYPOCRISY
@@lgstar3363 I was going to write a nice, long, detailed reply about how you have completely misinterpreted my comment and are probably just one of those "woke 15 yr old white girls", but honestly it's not worth my time trying to figure out how you pulled any of that shit out of my comment, so instead I hope you have a wonderful day and a nice life 🙂
I've got a possible lesbian historical figure: Saint Ætheldreda. Or commonly known as St Audrey. Apparently she begged some priest dude to ask her 2nd husband to not make sexual advances on her and to respect her wishes to remain a virtuous nun. Sounds good and all, doesn't sound at all gay.... She fled to the island that her 1st husband (who had passed at that point) with 2 other nuns. One or both of those nuns were bound to be her lover(s). Just saying. As one of my 2nd cousins (back a gen), had said (I'm paraphrasing) "you think all nuns aren't in relationships and having sex with each other, as well as invite men in"
I've been told by numerous friends, including those of the lgbt variety that I was obviously not bisexual anymore since I picked a *gasp* MAN to spend the rest of my life with.... Weirdly mainly other women told me that.
My sister in law is bi but chose to spend her life with a man. That does not however prevent her from grabbing my butt when she can get away with it. It's not a hidden fact among us she finds me attractive and I dont get offended when she does manage to sneak in a butt grab.
It’s simple probability. Many bisexuals will find a compatible life-partner in a person of the opposite sex. There are going to be more male’s interested in women to chose a life partner from, than females interested in females to choose from. (And even fewer trans, or non-binary people who are interested in people of your gender and biological configuration).
@@lynn858 I know, I was commenting this because it irks me that people are still like that "You ended up in a het relationship so you're obviously not bi anymore" still the same today as it was a long time ago, see the historians argue that this princess couldn't have been anything but straight, she was happily married to a man...
@@DaemlichesStueck her hubby is fine with it as he knows I'm straight and 100% faithful to his brother. Plus he knows that there there will be retaliation if I about go through the ceiling if she scares the crap out of me, he finds it hilarious to hear the yelp and then see her running with me hot on her heels to get her back
Thank you for this video. While I was in school, we studied Maria Teresia and Joseph's life in great detail, but Isabella was mention only once "she was his first wife, the end" and we learned NOTHING anout Mimi. As a bisexual woman myself, historiacal figures like Mimi and Isabella are very important for me. You can say many things about the internet, but it allows us to learn about things, that was/is considered a taboo in the schooling system.
Watched this last night, just wanted to come back and comment THANK YOU because even seeing the word bisexual in a title is so huge for me and seeing my orientation represented. You and Anna Akana just happened to post bisexual related content at the same time which made my little bi heart so happy. 😍
I absolutely love these lessons!!! 💜💜💜 May I suggest an historical figure who I recently discovered: Charles-Geneviève-Louis-Auguste-André-Timothée d'Éon de Beaumont, best known as Chevalier d'Èon (I had to copypaste from Wikipedia😅), a French diplomat, spy, adventurer and freemason who lived half of life as a man and the other half as a woman between 18th and 19th century. So fascinating!
@@horrorfanatic6990 Took me a minute to figure out, because I’m not all that text savvy, but this is the link to where to buy the pins: store.dftba.com/collections/jessica-out-of-the-closet
The hair in the portrait at 15:10 is on point. Also I love growing up in an era where people are calling out historians for not noticing or being willfully ignorant of the obvious.
10:38 Oh, my goodness! That reminds me of how the legend of Orpheus and Eurydice was used to symbolise the forbidden love shared between the two female protagonists in the French film 'Portrait of a Lady On Fire.'
I LOVE Jessica's videos and all, but I wish she'd provide some references for these obviously well researched videos not only so we can do our own reading but also to give credit to her sources.
I was so excited to get this video today!!! I love your voice. I’m able to read less and less because of my macular degeneration. History is my favorite, and listening to you tell history is better then listening to Sir Attenborough.
Hiiii thank you for covering my favourite princess story of all times!!! Also for the same names in the family, those were only repeated because the first daughters of such names like Marie Carolina died as infants. Albert and Mimi also fell in love only after Isabela passed away, even though they already knew each other by that point! Albert was so sweet and supportive about the whole relationship too, he is one of the only historical male figures I actually like! How I wish they made a movie or a documentary about these three...
I’m straight but I absolutely love these recent videos you are posting. I think it’s so good to go over history and definitely talk about the parts of history we all looked at a little side-eyed when they tried to mask it to fit the “norms” of those times. I think these would actually make fantastic podcast episodes
I don’t know where else to say this but my history prof in uni is currently teaching us Sappho and saying she was completely straight with no female attraction and I’m so mad bc I chose to do my final on her thinking I could finally do a paper on being bi and now I have to write pretending she was straight. Thank you for coming to my ted talk
...how?? she’s literally the ur-example of a lesbian! she lived on an island called lesbos for which lesbianism is named because of her and her *very* *gay* poems ...your prof is whack, man, is all i can say
I know we always say that about all these historical profiles, but out of all the historical profiles, I want to see this one turned into a movie the most.
Bad fatigue and feeling stressed about the world not being accessible today, so really appreciating this video 😍 needed to hear about disabled and queer people being real and historical 😍
Historians think it’s easier to say friend not lover, thank you for this video and I’m learning every video you share from you. Love these videos so much and enjoy your videos a lot.
kind of interesting the finger to the chin gesture- maybe letting on that she gets the d2bw or just a random gesture? Either way good to know about d2bw
Stop tempting me with your club, I cannot afford it 😞 Anyways, I love your channel and everything you create, especially content about your marriage - it gives me hope I could have a wife too, one day ❤️
Hold up, a princess being betrothed to a prince and falling in love with his sister?? Guys this is LITERALLY Of Fire and Stars. Like, there's already a book about this.
Really really really love your history videos. You are quickly becoming one of my favorite RUclipsrs. Im a cis white male so hopefully your ok with me really enjoying your content.
I just wanted to say that I love your channel. You’re so pretty and positive, in spite of your circumstances. And I am sorry if that is a clichéd thing to say, but with you it’s so true! I love listening to your viewpoints and your history lessons, and I was especially interested in your upbringing as a Quaker because I thought of becoming one at some point years ago (but ended up becoming Catholic)
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Isabella, to Mimi: "I am literally in love with you"
Historians: what does that mean
Historians: "SURELY they meant... You know, like sisters... Or just really close cousins? Yeah, gal pals"
Historians be like we pretend we don't see it
Oh my god they were roommates
@@carlyalakija4703 😆😆😆
iT mEaNs ThEiR bEsTiEs TeEhEe
Mimi's husband thought the love between his late wife and Isabella was so pure it needed to be shared with the world. Now that's one top-class hubbie
iconic ally.
No wonder the two princesses liked him. A true human!
he sounds like such a lovely man!
Sounds fine 👌
a (presumably) cishet man who understood bisexuality in the 18th century. modern men gotta step it up.
"I am madly in love with you, virtuously or diabolically. I love you and I will love you to the grave."
There is no heterosexual explanation for this.
Sometimes one straight lady will say this to another straight lady as an indication that she would like to makeout with her in a totally straight way. - historians
@@carameldare absolutely, platonically, just gals pals and they were roommates
I literally said OUT LOUD "oh my god they were roommates" because it was stronger than me
Oh, to be madly in love, virtuously or diabolically.
I'm surprised that historians don't just become basketball players because they sure can reach. Real far.
Why can't historians realize that they can be both gal pals AND lovers. The best relationships are ones with your best friend
Amen. My wife IS my best friend
My boyfriend IS my best friend
Im so happy for all the SOs who have best friends in their partner 🥰🥰🥰
Gotta find a best friend first hahahaha
Right? If straight peeps can have a best friend in their SO why can't gay peeps?? 💗
woman: *confesses love to another woman*
historians: what great friends they were!
it would've been very easily happened to me and my best friend, but it didn't who could admit to that much less tell her that was so many yrs. ago, we don't even talk or see each other
Jessica: complains about everyone being called Maria
Me: *giggles in Portuguese*
I felt it too, I live in Italy
Maria is such a regular name that there are guys with Maria as their second name
As a Spanish I agree. Your name can be Maria. Have Maria first, or second in a two part name. Or you can just have an infinite amount of them in your surnames.
Your parents can also be terrible and call you (translate) “Mary Pains” “Mary Anguished” etc. Or call you “Mary Jesus” for that extra religious flare.
Giggles in mexican
me: *cries in russian*
“The entire royal family went into mourning for longer than usual”
Queen Victoria: weak
My thoughts exactly
This made me, lol! Thanks, I needed that...
Hi Jessica, I work as a guide at Schönbrunn Palace in Vienna, the Habsburg family's summer residence and also the place where Maria Theresias family including Maria Christina and later on, Isabella of Parma with her husband Joseph lived. I really, really, truly appreciate your video and because, as you say, history™ very much paints Isabella and Mimi just as close friends (GAL PALS!) I often tell their love story in my tours to change the narrative around them a bit. Thank you so much for this piece of gay Austrian history that is so often overlooked, also from me personally as a bisexual Austrian woman/historian :D Also, nice work trying to pronounce all of Maria Theresia's titles and the German place names! You did great!
Thank you for your work.
I wish you had been my tour guide when I visited
Now I want to visit Austria :D
Yay Austria! (My paternal family immigrated from there.) Also yay for bisexuals cause me too!
Hallo! Machst du immer noch solche Führungen? Ich würd nämlich echt gern mehr über die beiden Erfahren! ^^
High key im a French major who has to do an Independent study next semester so im thinking about proposing these gay letters in French as a subject piece
yes please do :)
This would be such a service to all lesbian-kind 😍
This is an excellent subject
I stan 👏👏👏
DO IT!! We believe in you!
Female historical figure: "I am madly in love with a woman."
Peers of the historical figure: "These women are so madly in love we compare them to mythological characters."
Historians: "Gal pals!"
*Mimi saves over 200 letters from a woman declaring her love for Mimi for over 25 years*
Historians: we will never know what their relationship was. Probably just really good friends
Smh
it was "friendship"
and they were roommates
It's giving Histori x Ymir from Attack on titan
Wow I need a “Marie Antoinette” style teen movie about these gals!!
OMG YEEAAAAS!
The Favourite is pretty close lol and AMAZING
@@kaelyn991 except the relationships in The Favourite were hella toxic..
@@TehMomo_ oh you’re totally right lol I was thinking more of the time period, but yes the relationships are VERY different
Brb getting a film degree
"I am madly in love with you virtuously or diabolically. I love you and I will love you to the grave"
That's what really good friends say to and about one another, right?
“Bisexual princess in love”? I’m sold!
Shout out to the bisexual girls!!!
💖💜💙
Woop I came out to everyone outside my close circle of friends a few weeks ago, feel sooooo freeee! 😁💗💜💙
💖💜💙
💖💜💙
He he
I LOVED THIS! (Also my name is Isabella) It's crazy how as soon as someone "might be gay" it takes like a lie detector test to "prove it" but when someone's straight everyone's like "okay"
What are you thinking? Of course we can't trust the lie detector, those things are unreliable! Hahahahaha
@@alexisericson241 :P Just mean that the people (probably men) who wrote the history books didn't recognize their letters as legit
If only someone...Jessica....with Telly experience and internet fame...could write that script and get BBC to produce it. It would be lovely♥️
they should make a film about this
i’d watch it
on it, maybe once I graduate
a musical even
@Jessxe001
please do
@@potato._.1 I'd love to. It's my favourite period in history and I'm an aspiring film student
@@autumn_west bet
I too want a gorgeously costumed lesbian historical romance series!
Maria Teresa was actually King of Hungary. Like the Main Ruler™.
Her husband was King of Austria and she the Queen, but he was like a royal consort to Hungary.
Sidenote - Mimi's palace was built from scratch next to the old, cold castle. Said castle is being reconstructed to include the baroque palace and gardens from Mimi's time. Big bro Joseph was responsible for the accident that caused the castle to burn down, it stayed like that until 1960' when it was reconstructed. But the baroque parts are an addition from the early 2010'. I happen to be a tour guide for that city. Hit me up, if your in the area.
Sorry but this is all wrong! Maria Theresia was arch duchess of her ancestral lands (including but certainly not limited to Austria), after the death of her father, which were part of the German Holy Roman Empire. She was also Queen of Hungary (which was much bigger than it is today). Her Husband was also Holy Roman Emperor after Maria Theresia dad (something woman could not be).
@@Persephonemybff what exactly are your sources on this? I agree on her husband being the Holy Roman Emperor, but she was King of Hungary as the nobles pledged their allegiance to her specifically.
MT led a war with Prussia mostly to secure her kingdom+inheritance and won because of this help from Hungary.
Here's the link to the Coronation Church where she was crowned.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Martin%27s_Cathedral,_Bratislava
Notice how there is no epithet like wife of next to her name? It's because she was no appendage to a male ruler for Hungary. She was the ruler, which at that time was shown by giving her the title of King.
@@TonyThimble that part was correct, I didn't say it wasn't. The next statement just wasn't.
@@Persephonemybff prefacing your statement with "this is all wrong" is unclear on you agreeing with some of my statement. Sorry.
MT also definitely was Queen of Austria. We even learn about her as Empress in grade school because the Austrio-Hungarian monarchy used the title of Kaiser which is emperor in translation. K und K in German means königlich (King's) and kaiserlich (kaizer's/emperor's) Monarchie/y.
@@TonyThimbleok here is were u got confused: the K&K monarchy was established nearly 100 years after Maria Theresia died. It was established by Franz II. who was the last holy roman Emperor, dissolved the holy roman empire and made himself Franz I of the Austro Hungarian empire. During Maria Theresia time, Austria was still a particularly the Holy Roman Empire, therefore it could not have a king, it was an arch duchy (Erzherzogtum). Maria Theresia is referred to as empress because her husband was Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. She herself, in her own right, was "only" arch duchess under him. Does that clear things up?
One of them sounds like a lesbian and the other a bisexual and I’m here for it 🏳️🌈
This story warmed my bisexual heart, and I would love love love a costume drama series depicting their love story as well
Hearing about other wlw in history brings me so much joy! We’ve always been here
isabella: "mimi. my most precious treasure. i love you so much i can't stand it. i'm madly in love with you."
historians: "adorable! they were GAL PALS :)"
"And they were thronemates (oh my god they were thronemates)"
☠️☠️☠️
4:42 WTF they were ALL called Maria??? and two were both called "Maria Elisabeth" and THREE were called "Maria Carolina"??? I actually cannot.... what were the parents thinking?????????
They probably reused the name after a child had died. Seeing as 6 did not make it to adulthood
I mean, welcome to europe
The Habsburg's were super Catholic and Mary (Maria in German) was one of the family's patron saints, that's why all of the girls carried her name (Joseph, for example, was one for the boys). The multiple Maria Elisabeth's and Maria Carolina's did happen because the older one's died as infants, so they were reusing their names.
I think that used to be a common thing to do. Just look at Johann Sebastian Bach and his father, brothers and sons. And the first Maria Elisabeth died after three years while both Maria Karolinas didn't live for more than one year, so the names were reused.
It's not uncommon for royal children to be named after their parents like all those Louises of France
One of my teachers said that back in the renaissance they didn't care about sexual orientation and it low-key triggered me because I remembered not only this story but plenty more
i just get so happy when Jessica uploads historical profiles
Oh my goodness a historical mini series of these princesses would be so good! I would watch the heck out of that. I don't even mind that she falls in love with a man at the end because like you emphasized, bisexuals exist :)
The writing are so emotional and beautiful omg. I know it's not so exactly related, but exists this kind of genre on manga called "isekai" (protagonist who appears on another world, usually magical, fantasy and so) and inside this genre exists a ton of webcomics with these background but the protagonist being the Villainess and knowing the story she is trapped (usually a book or a game with lots of dresses, swords etc). She starts changing this world for good and then being loved not only by the male princes but the princess as well. I find lovely
What is that webcomic called? It sounds interesting :)
Yes do tell the name of the manga
I am guessing they mean My Next Life as a Villainess: All Routes Lead to Doom which has even received an anime adaptation
My mom grew up in Spain in a Catholic family, and she and all her sisters' first names are Maria, and then they all have different middle names that they go by.
My father's family was catholic, and his mother's generation were *all* named Mary. my nana was the eldest, so she was the only one of the ~10 sisters that actually _went by_ Mary, while the rest went by their middle names (which doubled as their confirmation names, and often they took them on legally after marriage - Mary Theresa Cabin might become Theresa Cabin LaRose, for example).
Confusingly, my nana and her (1-2 years younger) sister actually had the _exact same name_ - they were both Mary Alice, but my nana went by Mary + her sister went by Alice 😹
That’s funny, in the catholic part of canada it was still common in the 90s to do the opposite. Give regular names to girls but then give them all the middle name Mary which never gets used. Same with boys and Joseph.
Okay I want this to be made into a sugar coated Disney movie where the princesses end up together and live happily ever after
Yes! There needs to be a mini series or movie of these 2 princesses! Their story is pretty amazing!
yas please! I would help make the costumes!
@@Charlie.1066 me two!
I'd like 10-16 episodes on their love story 💙
This is lovely! I love how Jessica talks about royalty while looking like she walked straight out of a palace! ❤️✨🌈
Petition for Jessica to write and direct that mini series 👀
i have never been so happy to have french as my first language, I'm gonna read ALL
Mimi's life may have mirrored that of every lesbian movie that came after, but it is lovely that she did get a "happily ever after" at the end with a man whom she loved and who sounds like a class act. Preserving and publishing Isabella's love letters to his wife, clearly (to me) because he understood how cherished that relationship had been, is such a beautiful act of devotion by Prince Albert. Of course we all wish Isabella herself had a happier fate, but I personally have no doubt that she'd be glad that her love ended up with someone who valued and respected her so.
As an Austrian bisexual lass who has studied the Habsburgs, especially the very likely gay Empress Elisabeth of Austria, for over two decades I just wanted to say that you did GREAT here. The pronunciations, the history, everything really. I had read about Isabella's and Mimi's relationship before and it's such a joy to see her pop up here. The poor girls deserved more time together, it's so tragic that Isabella and her daughter died so young!
can you do an episode on asexuals? i know there is a lot of other stuff to go through, but it would be cool to learn about asexual figures from history :)
J.M. Barrie or Isaac Newton? Perhaps Florence Nightingale?
Great idea!
What are you thoughts on Nikola Tesla?
That would be so sweet
Yes please
THIS is the content I have been waiting forrrrr!!! 💃🏼👏🏼 Where my bis at?!!!! 💗💜💙
Ey! 👉👉
Speaking of Marie Antoinette, she may have also been bisexual or lesbian. She had great love for the Princesse de Lamballe and was instantly smitten by the Duchess of Polignac. Marie Antoinette's affection for both women was documented in personal letters as well as contemporary writing of the time.
The French public actually taunted her by parading around Princesse de Lamballe's severed head ...
@@laurenc5306 well that's morbid
@@laurenc5306 They also jeered that she should 'kiss her friend's dead lips', which obviously tormented her, to make it even more morbid.
Maria Christina is actually one of my far great great great etc aunts and Joseph, uncle🥰
Thats so cool
@@mimigooloo5203 thank you!
Maria Christina happens to also be one of mine!
Oh cool! Mine is not as cool but my great grandfathers great grandma (his great grandma) was a lady in waiting for queen Victoria!
Oooh, how did you find out? I'd love to know if I have some famous ancestors 😁😂👑
If I was a teacher I'd want to do a small part of each class giving mini lessons about lgbtq+ history, black and African american history, and teach about different cultures around the world.
Wouldn’t you began with INDIGENOUS NATIVE NORTH AMERICANS/MEXICANS FIRST I MEAN IF U LIVE IN NORTH AMERICA OTHERWISE ITS JUST HALF TRUTHS AND HYPOCRISY
As this is what USA teaches lies and half truths at best
@@lgstar3363 I was going to write a nice, long, detailed reply about how you have completely misinterpreted my comment and are probably just one of those "woke 15 yr old white girls", but honestly it's not worth my time trying to figure out how you pulled any of that shit out of my comment, so instead I hope you have a wonderful day and a nice life 🙂
I've got a possible lesbian historical figure: Saint Ætheldreda. Or commonly known as St Audrey.
Apparently she begged some priest dude to ask her 2nd husband to not make sexual advances on her and to respect her wishes to remain a virtuous nun. Sounds good and all, doesn't sound at all gay.... She fled to the island that her 1st husband (who had passed at that point) with 2 other nuns. One or both of those nuns were bound to be her lover(s). Just saying.
As one of my 2nd cousins (back a gen), had said (I'm paraphrasing) "you think all nuns aren't in relationships and having sex with each other, as well as invite men in"
I've been told by numerous friends, including those of the lgbt variety that I was obviously not bisexual anymore since I picked a *gasp* MAN to spend the rest of my life with.... Weirdly mainly other women told me that.
My sister in law is bi but chose to spend her life with a man. That does not however prevent her from grabbing my butt when she can get away with it. It's not a hidden fact among us she finds me attractive and I dont get offended when she does manage to sneak in a butt grab.
It’s simple probability. Many bisexuals will find a compatible life-partner in a person of the opposite sex.
There are going to be more male’s interested in women to chose a life partner from, than females interested in females to choose from. (And even fewer trans, or non-binary people who are interested in people of your gender and biological configuration).
@@jasminehagerman6329 being bi however does not mean flirting with everyone or being unfaithful to your partner, as I'm sure you know
@@lynn858 I know, I was commenting this because it irks me that people are still like that "You ended up in a het relationship so you're obviously not bi anymore" still the same today as it was a long time ago, see the historians argue that this princess couldn't have been anything but straight, she was happily married to a man...
@@DaemlichesStueck her hubby is fine with it as he knows I'm straight and 100% faithful to his brother. Plus he knows that there there will be retaliation if I about go through the ceiling if she scares the crap out of me, he finds it hilarious to hear the yelp and then see her running with me hot on her heels to get her back
Me, casually browsing RUclips:
Me, seeing that Jessica uploaded a new historical profile video: yyeEAAH HERE WE GO
How could I resist a title like that
Let's just take a moment to appreciate how Jessica's hair is always on point.
Thank you for this video. While I was in school, we studied Maria Teresia and Joseph's life in great detail, but Isabella was mention only once "she was his first wife, the end" and we learned NOTHING anout Mimi. As a bisexual woman myself, historiacal figures like Mimi and Isabella are very important for me. You can say many things about the internet, but it allows us to learn about things, that was/is considered a taboo in the schooling system.
Bisexuality and princesses, everything I love! 💕
god the ending of their story is more emotionally impactful than the ending of Titanic 😔😔😔
Watched this last night, just wanted to come back and comment THANK YOU because even seeing the word bisexual in a title is so huge for me and seeing my orientation represented. You and Anna Akana just happened to post bisexual related content at the same time which made my little bi heart so happy. 😍
Immediately after reading the title I thought it would make a great children's book story, but a miniseries would be cool too!
i mean, it seems too dark and depressing for children to read, and too serious to bowdlerise. but a miniseries would be cool
I´m loving these videos of non-straight historical characters, great job Jessica.
I absolutely love these lessons!!! 💜💜💜 May I suggest an historical figure who I recently discovered: Charles-Geneviève-Louis-Auguste-André-Timothée d'Éon de Beaumont, best known as Chevalier d'Èon (I had to copypaste from Wikipedia😅), a French diplomat, spy, adventurer and freemason who lived half of life as a man and the other half as a woman between 18th and 19th century. So fascinating!
O.O so many apostrophes...
I WANT THE HISTORICAL DRAMA OF THEIR STORY SO BADLY!
Oh I'd absolutely LOVE to see a miniseries about Isabella and Mimi!!
I ordered the pin, because I can’t wear my “Because Gay” shirt every day.
I want this pin so bad but I didn’t see it on her store :(
@@horrorfanatic6990 Look in the description of this video, near the top is “Because Gay and other enamel pins” with a link!
@@horrorfanatic6990 Took me a minute to figure out, because I’m not all that text savvy, but this is the link to where to buy the pins:
store.dftba.com/collections/jessica-out-of-the-closet
Thank you! I was going on her tee spring website! That explains why I couldn’t find the pin ☺️
@@horrorfanatic6990 i’m glad you found it!
I havent had time to watch this, but my heart gets so happy every time I read “bisexual princesses” in my subscription box 🥺💕
The hair in the portrait at 15:10 is on point. Also I love growing up in an era where people are calling out historians for not noticing or being willfully ignorant of the obvious.
The first thought I had when reading the title was "I wanna see that Disney movie"
10:38 Oh, my goodness! That reminds me of how the legend of Orpheus and Eurydice was used to symbolise the forbidden love shared between the two female protagonists in the French film 'Portrait of a Lady On Fire.'
16:22 She's been watching a lot of ContraPoints.
Haven’t we all?
And if someone hasn’t, they should.
@@katherinemorelle7115 I mean... I may have had a bit of a ContraPoints binge watch this past week. Just a few more left to rewatch...
I LOVE Jessica's videos and all, but I wish she'd provide some references for these obviously well researched videos not only so we can do our own reading but also to give credit to her sources.
Oh yes that would be amazing!! 💜
I was so excited to get this video today!!! I love your voice. I’m able to read less and less because of my macular degeneration. History is my favorite, and listening to you tell history is better then listening to Sir Attenborough.
Hiiii thank you for covering my favourite princess story of all times!!! Also for the same names in the family, those were only repeated because the first daughters of such names like Marie Carolina died as infants. Albert and Mimi also fell in love only after Isabela passed away, even though they already knew each other by that point! Albert was so sweet and supportive about the whole relationship too, he is one of the only historical male figures I actually like! How I wish they made a movie or a documentary about these three...
OH YEES my favorite lesbian talking about my favorite lesbians, thats pure happiness
I’m straight but I absolutely love these recent videos you are posting. I think it’s so good to go over history and definitely talk about the parts of history we all looked at a little side-eyed when they tried to mask it to fit the “norms” of those times. I think these would actually make fantastic podcast episodes
the fact that i'm LITERALLY FROM PARMA and never knew anything about their relationship is driving me mad.
I don’t know where else to say this but my history prof in uni is currently teaching us Sappho and saying she was completely straight with no female attraction and I’m so mad bc I chose to do my final on her thinking I could finally do a paper on being bi and now I have to write pretending she was straight. Thank you for coming to my ted talk
...how?? she’s literally the ur-example of a lesbian!
she lived
on an island
called lesbos
for which lesbianism is named
because of her
and her *very* *gay* poems
...your prof is whack, man, is all i can say
So many Marias. Im also a Maria Alexandra❣️I love the historical knowledge you share. So much I didn't kno thank u💓❣️💓
I know we always say that about all these historical profiles, but out of all the historical profiles, I want to see this one turned into a movie the most.
Bad fatigue and feeling stressed about the world not being accessible today, so really appreciating this video 😍 needed to hear about disabled and queer people being real and historical 😍
Historians think it’s easier to say friend not lover, thank you for this video and I’m learning every video you share from you. Love these videos so much and enjoy your videos a lot.
The irresistible urge to complete that one lyric of I Feel Pretty...beautiful
I clicked so fast. where my bi people at?
Bi enby here.
Yo!
Here
Hello!
Bonjour
Your German pronounciation was really good! Teschen is spot on.
I read about them and there was a lot of "there were really good friends, guys" Its soo good to hear you talk about those two
4:12 Lodomeria and Galicia are basically one thing, it was a part of Poland that got rebranded to "Lodomeria and Galicia" when Austria took it
kind of interesting the finger to the chin gesture- maybe letting on that she gets the d2bw or just a random gesture? Either way good to know about d2bw
Honestly these history and movie videos are my favorite ones of yours now. I could listen to you explain history to me all day long.
15:37 “Favoritism hurt your favorite child too, parents.”
FUCKING THANK YOU. It’s a bad business for everyone when that happens.
This is literally my favourite branch of history, I've spent ages learning about Marie Antoinette herself and had no idea this was a thing too omg
the video title sounds like an interesting punk band lol looking good my dudette , love the hair, looks like something from the 40s, very cool
Your voice is so soothing, I love your videos
As a bisexual, that was So romantic. Would love this as a movie! Off to read the letters now.
Jessica you did a great job pronouncing the German and Hungarian names.
This is a beautiful love story. Thank you for sharing.
Yesss I waited the whole video for the “gal pals!” joke! It’s spreading!
I want that mini-series too, Jessica!
Stop tempting me with your club, I cannot afford it 😞
Anyways, I love your channel and everything you create, especially content about your marriage - it gives me hope I could have a wife too, one day ❤️
Loved this! I would also love to see a historical t.v. series based on these princesses.
I love it when Lesbian Mom tells stories!!!
Have you read "sex with kings" ? Its another good history book on women of the crowns and the turmoil they faced.
Hold up, a princess being betrothed to a prince and falling in love with his sister??
Guys this is LITERALLY Of Fire and Stars. Like, there's already a book about this.
just think, the book mightve been inspired by this :)
I would 100% support a mini series about this. Honestly, BBC needs to get on this.
Make it. Make that mini series!
Really really really love your history videos. You are quickly becoming one of my favorite RUclipsrs. Im a cis white male so hopefully your ok with me really enjoying your content.
I just wanted to say that I love your channel. You’re so pretty and positive, in spite of your circumstances. And I am sorry if that is a clichéd thing to say, but with you it’s so true! I love listening to your viewpoints and your history lessons, and I was especially interested in your upbringing as a Quaker because I thought of becoming one at some point years ago (but ended up becoming Catholic)
Writing this historical fiction novel seems like a great future project for you, Jessica!