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Customizing Glocks® - Gun Guys Ep. 12
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- Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2018
- In this episode, Bill and Ken talk about the prevalence of Glocks® in the training industry and among law enforcement, and discuss some of the best ways to upgrade yours. Discussion Starts at 0:20
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This dude probably has the biggest aftermarket gun parts company in the world and seems like the most humble person ever.
Good shit.
Raymund Pedroza I agree! Both of these guys are awesome. I love these videos. Both down to earth and both probably have shot more rounds each than five generations of my family (and we love to shoot)! Would love to meet them one day!
I have been watching these videos during Covid he seems like the nicest guy to be so damn successful always nice to see great success doesnt always lead to well bad people.
I feel like I’m watching quiet confidence: a steady, though creative, thoughtful fellow in Bill Wilson. Humility does not necessarily play well (um, ‘fit’ well?) with that list of characteristics.
I've spent my life with a 1911 X .045 ! However as a Mayor of a city I recommended adopting Glocks for our Police Department. At that time they were married to their S&W/Colt revolvers. The presented the Glocks for two weeks. Then after the range and their realization that they had more than doubled their firepower they no longer grumbled! The Glocks worked as they are light, simple, accurate and relatively inexpensive! Now folks like Wilson Combat are making Glock pistols reallly beautiful and highly engineered and prized handguns!
They work. I'll always prefer a model 66 or a 1911 to shoot at the range. But when it matters, I want a Glock.
Mayor McCheese.
Understandable , it took a long time for me to warm up to Glock. But I've seen enough to convince myself , they are reliable to the core. And the price is fair. One can always go to the beauty shop .
.045? man...I thought .17hmr was small...
As a mayor of a city, you’re not very sharp with the numbers…. .45” Just shy of a half inch…
These 2 men are absolute treasures to the gun community as well as massad Ayoob!
My “hats off “ to Bill Wilson . He’s proven to be open minded to other platforms. I was amazed when WC first came out with their Beretta models… then the Glocks, Sig P320 etc . Well done Bill !
Glock perfection.....now let’s customize the hell outta of it. 😂
The "glock perfection" is being able to get a modern holster cheaply for a gun made on 1989. it's the aftermarket that is GIANT.
It's such perfection that my brand new issued gen 5 glock 17 had a chipped front sight within a month, and my rear sight started walking out within 6 months just from average duty use.
The gun was free to me, but having to spend $120 or so on a brand new gun seems a little less like perfection to me when the competition...Walthers, H&K, hell, even the M&P, come with way better sights. I qualified the same with the gen 5 über elite marksman barrel as the old worn out gen 3 I got as a rookie. Idk.
Truth! 🇦🇹
Your wife may be a supermodel, but you’d let her put on different clothes, jewelry, and 💄 I suspect…
Not me. I'm MR minimalist. If I pay what I consider large for a gun I'm shooting it like it is. Don't like it trade for something else.
Bill Wilson: ".40's on the way out"
2020: "Hold my beer."
I own 3 .40 pistols 2021, a 22 MOS gen 5, 2 S&W model M&Ps. All 3 work fairly well with factory .40 ammunition. I'd feel secure or able to perform security, LE duties with a .40 sidearm. I currently use Speer Gold Dot or Winchester 155gr Silver Tip. Hornady Critical Duty 175gr is also a great carry .40 load.
Talk like this makes me want to get another .40.
Please ZOOM IN on the modifications
I just love you video format but I would like to see close-ups of the guns that you are display
I am pretty much brand new to the handgun/self defense world but,
from what I have heard and already know about these two men what
they are saying carries a lot of weight. Some great insight from two
men who have earned their place in the self defense community.
Thank you very much for sharing your thoughts and insight gentlemen.
Be safe!
Randy
If I may suggest, when you are pointing out features of any customizations, it would be nice to have a camera or two that can zoom in for the viewer to see what it is that you are describing to one another. In this video, it would have been nice to have seen the sights up close, the slide and grip customizations.
That's exactly what I was thinking the whole time!
Agree 100%... I've seen their Paul Howe Glock up close in another video and it's pretty slick. To have that presented as they were speaking would've made a real impact....
Cool to hear Amnazing Shooters talk about guns !
Never owned a Glock until the Gen 5. My wife even took the 19X as hers.
While typing this, UPS delivered my WC Glock sights for a G45. They work on my Vickers Elite FS & Commander so I ordered some for the Glock. Thanks Guys!
I put some Ameriglo night sights on my 19 and that’s it. I like it stock.
Yup just better sighs and your good to go and if your vision isn't shit like mine the stock ones do the job just fine
On my 17/19 (after tons of money wasted over the years) I ended up with the "Hackathorn sights" by Ameriglo (GL-433) - Tritium Orange Front + Full Black no Tritium rear -; really underrated sights, i love those...
I use these sights on my M&P.
Grappolidipalma cheap too!
I'm 50, I might switch to that design. I like, buy Trijicon HD 3 dot orange sights. I put them on my M&P 2.0 .40 model. I put Trijicon Surpressor tritium 3 dot on my big 22 MOS gen 5. I plan to add a RMR or ACRO 2. When $$$ comes available.
You know what would rock? A comprehensive, frank, complete honesty video comparing the 1911 to Glock.
Other than the cheezee plastic sights and weight lifters trigger pull the Glock is a good pistol. The Wilson version sounds like it is what all Glocks should be.
Great content. Thanks for sharing gentlemen
I threw an instructor off by being the only revolver in the class. “Press the mag release reload and slingshot”. 🖐 I can’t do any of that.
I must say you both are realistic about glock . I fought with myself over glock , until my 68 year old father brought home g17 and said son this the future. And that was 30 years ago guys . My father was and old ww2 mp carried 1911 for years and that was the gun he introduced to us to learn to shoot. Which to this day I shoot very well , but glock is lighter and more compact , more rounds. K
How about an episode to discuss their favorite drinks. I imagine some bourbon!
alcohol and guns - not a good combination.
Somebody give Mr Wilson a bit of coffee before the video, looks like he is falling asleep ;)
G-45 9 mil is by far the best Shooten Glock that I've shot...
A 45 9mm or 47 model is what I'd consider to arm a PD or sworn LE agency in 2021. Glocks are not perfect but I've owned, ccw a few since 2014 with few problems.
I’ve seen a few people on RUclips use skateboard tape for grip stippling. Seen people wrap the grip in it as well as a strip along the side of the gun, in front of the slide lock for the thumb on the support hand.
Glocks are tools....Wilson’s metal guns are complete works of art that happen to be tools. I wish I could afford one right now...so I will have to settle for shooting my friends at the range. Thank you gentlemen!
One day Glock will finally bring out a polymer frame, double stack, commander size, 9mm 1911. And the world as we know it will cease to exist.
I would love that but it will never happen. They make what they make best. It's the same reason they don't make rifles or anything but pistols in line with what they already make.
Willfromsc those kinda exist already. STI makes double stack polymer and aluminum framed 1911s.... called 2011s.
Love it
I think a good step up from glock is CZp10c. What an awesome gun
You should check out the P07
Love cz
Or a Walther PPQ.
I've owned a few glocks and just couldn't get into them. I tried the 19 and my hands are too big, the 17 is the best in my opinion bit it's just too square. The cz p09 and p10 are far superior in my opinion but I'm just a 1911 guy, steel rules in my world.
Nobody drives the same truck or car. Choice, fit, desire, variety and money drives the market...thank goodness we have options.
Me too. I mutated to a 1911 in the 70s and never looked back.
Simple Man Simple Man is correct
I'm own the Glock 19X and for the cost I believe was a good choice in that it had better sights module grips and maybe a better trigger. I just recently purchased the19X and it feels great in the hand. I'll see how it works out at 1000 rounds.
From the "things I'd like to see" department: a Glock 19 with a slimmer grip frame and flat backstrap (taking a 13-ish round mag.) Make it out of steel and I'd cancel my Springfield SA35 order.
Bill I noticed that the 19 you displayed had no finger grooves !! Do you offer finger groove removal ??? Ken, 2 days after G45 was available I bought on one. Then HD night sights / Guardian drop trigger, close to perfection as you can get !!!!
~My Gen 4 Glock 19 runs a Wilson Stainless Barrel, an Agency Arms flat-faced Trigger with ZEV connectors and Springs. Its 4# trigger is sweet in deed. My G19 was expensive but worth every dollar.
~My G19 has few if any, stock parts remaining. I guess I just can't leave my Glock Pistols stock.
~I wish Wilson Combat made a barrel for my Glock 42.
Love the videos, just wish you would get a close up of the guns.
Would be nice to see some M&P 2.0's with some WC lovin
As far as other calibers go I really like .357 Sig.
I bought a match grade .357sig KKM barrel in 2020 for my M&Ps 4.25". I had a 33 Glock too but rarely shot it. I would say the .357SIG is not over rated but it's not a real benefit to most users. The recoil, muzzle flash, 💥 is a tad much 😬. My cousin has a .357sig model P320 full size. Hes very satisfied with the .357 round but also has a .40S&W P320 barrel. I'm ok with 9mm +P or .40S&W.
Wait, so are those Tango Down Trigger shoes designed by or made by Wilson Combat? I would also love to see them texturing the frames to see if or how they scrap the stock frame "texturing" first before doing theirs.
More Ken Hackathorn pleaaaaaase!!!
I definitely appreciate the way to look at Glock. I have a buddy that's the same way- doesn't really like 'em but has five or six. They're relatively cheap and parts are cheap, so you can keep one running easily. And if it gets dinged up who cares? It's only a Glock! I'm more of an HK guy myself and don't own a Glock although I have in the past. But if all I had was a Glock 19 I'd get by.
A Wilson Combat 1911 is my grail handgun, but I’m a Glock guy. Have two on my hip as I type.
Glock plastic sights really are terrible
Uh, shooting a pistol under various circumstances, I never really use the sights.
@HighSpeedNoDrag that is true under a lot of high stress sight pictures can go out the window. I still want good metal sight though. Good sight picture > muscle memory = good point and shoot accuracy.
They really are hot garbage...
Never understood the hate for the Glock sights.
They work fine and do their job my biggest gripe is the are polymer if they were metal I wouldn't be so quick to replace them
After years of sub par 1911's , I finally got a Wilson Combat ; loved it, it was a flawless performer, got married, a bunch of tricycle motors ; sold my Wilson Combat, sad day! Well years later, the boss( my wife), said why dont you order that WC, you always wanted! Yahoo! Ultra Light Commander, ( in .45 Bill!), flawless performer , light, awesome! I had to go through customer service, and Tessa was so nasty to me , for no reason, several times,I decided not to buy at Wilson Combat any more! After a Recon Rifle, and ULC , I went to Nighthawk, she disrespected me that much I said "never again," I asked questions yes,.but was always polite before I spent about 8-9k, so I ordered a 3.8" carry plus from night hawk, but I do love your guns Bill, and I was so upset; which is rare for me, I couldnt go past Tessa, to someone over her? who I hear is gone now?Love your videos love your guns, moved over to Nighthawk, I treat my customers like gold, when I'm the customer I'm gonna eat crow! Uh uh!
Sounds like you found a great woman
@@Room-qd7pl 😂
So you’re telling me you avoided buying a Wilson combat over some other woman’s poor attitude ? Pretty beta of you bro - I see why your wife wears the pants & tells YOU to get a 1911 instead of the other way around ! I tell MY wife when I’ll get me a Wilson combat damnit !
Hey Guys, I’ve been a 1911 guy my whole life, but as you guys say, it’s a Glock world. So I use both. Off body in my EDC go bag it’s a Glock 21, when I go running in my load out vest it’s a Glock 30. When I’m not wearing shorts here in Florida and have on jeans or BDUs I carry a 1911 commander .45 ACP. I’m looking for a trigger replacement does Vickers manufactures a trigger for Glock 21s and 30s ?
What stuff does Wilson have for Glock 21 and 30 ?
On the range doing testing as improve as 9mm projectiles are the .45 projectiles are also improved. The Glocks are +P rated and even not using +P, testing the .45 ACP and 9mm against steel pepper poppers the you still need to do a double tap to knock them down where as one shot with a .45 ACP will not just knock them down but slam them to the ground.
I like the fire power of the Glock. In an active shooter situation with multiple shooter or a shooter with a semiautomatic rifle not having to do a speed reload after 8 rounds is critical. But my accuracy is significantly better with the 1911. It’s my favorite handgun.
Thanks for the presentation you do !!!!!
Ricky from IBM
I just bought a glock 21 a few weeks ago and threw in a new trigger that is awesome. Look up Overwatch Precision. I got the PolyDat trigger for $60. Can't beat that anywhere. I own three other glocks all with other triggers like Apex which cost over $100. Well worth it
The only gun to come out of the box without pride of ownership! Hilariously true.
Good aggressive texture on FN fns9
And the 509
Bill, I love your guns but dial up the enthusiasm just a bit.
is there any point to using the Glock beaver tail backstrap and cut it in half and use it as a force grip adapter wannabe since they don't make a grip force adapter for gen 5 g,ocks?
Just keep your Glocks box stock, boys. They’ll give you no problems.
I modify all my Glocks and have had no problems.
That's right....calling them boys, real men carry 1911's ….lol
Secondary gain.
when will you branch out and offer customization on a G43, I'd be first in-line if you would Wilson'ize one
They work on the G43.
That line will get repeated..."if you treat your gun like you treat your lawnmower...." Ha ha ha
That saw has been around at least 12 years. That’s when I first heard it. I suspect it’s much older.
-Marky
The best upgrade to my 17 was a Poly80 frame. The best upgrade to that was an M&P 2.0.
Oh by the way, that Recon Rifle in
308, was more accurate than all my bolt guns , so I got rid of them, Greatest Rifle ever,.put a 3.5 x 35 ACOG on top, It'll get you some pigs and deer!
Why the slow twist barrels? Will it stabilize 147 grain bullets?
I just can't get excited about a tricked out plastic gun guys. Until you remove ALL the plastic.
You guys are definitely in the elite ranks of defensive combat and competition shooting, and hearing you say @ 9:56 "I think .40's are on the way out anyway", kinda breaks my heart. I've never owned a .40, but I do appreciate that if a guy or gal in the United States wants to up their ballistics game, then why not? Same with .357 Sig. It's a ballistics monster.
Battle Rattle I like having a Glock chambered in .40. I do switch it to 9mm from time to time though.
Let us see the guns while you speak, you're cool but we came for the guns
I put a Vickers flat trigger in my G43 and don't like it at all. The safety tab always catches on the trigger slot in the frame. I'll stick with Overwatch Precision.
Robar uses Overwatch triggers. It is a really nice upgrade.
Very nice
I got the gen 3 Glock 23 and I shoot it really well. I did a 25 cent trigger job on it and slipped one of those rubber hogue grips on it
. I am going to get a lone Wolf distributors 9 mm conversion barrel for it. I already bought two of the Magpul 27 round 9 mm magazines.
I know people love to hate on the 40 caliber these days but with good quality 160 grain self defense ammo it has some really nice ballistics.
I also have a lot of ammunition for it so that's a plus. I didn't know Wilson did anything with Glocks.
I'm also in the process of building a full size 1911 and I plan to put some Wilson parts in it. Definitely getting Wilson magazines for it. I like a lot of different guns.
Running glocks in like running Honda civics
I have 5 Glocks in different calibers and different generations and I am able to shot them fairly well.
One way Glock could archive perfection is to stopping putting those shitty finger groves on the grip. Some texturing on the panels so that we don’t have to be stippling them with a hot iron also would be nice. A better, more precise trigger wouldn’t be a hard feat to do either. And just how cheap are those sights as issued? They should start listening to the consumer.
For me I think I would enjoy hearing more from bill. No disrespect Ken.
Why don't you leave you Wilson Combat keychain on the table as well?
Bill isn't much of a talker is he? Great vid
I think Bill has a hard time getting excited about a Glock.
Bill is a thinker he has other people talk;)
Ugly blocky plastic gun that's reliable. Hard to be excited.
In almost every Glock video/article made by those in the industry, there's always the "Glock apology." At just 56 seconds in, Ken does it. "Whether we like Glocks or not...". Why is this always done? You don't apologize for other polymer guns. I am thankful for Glock. They forced the rest of the industry to respond with better handguns, when it used to just be a 1911 and revolver world. They keep our police and spec ops soldiers safe. Why keep apologizing? After 30 years in the field, this platform has been thoroughly vetted and accepted.
grantorino2009 because they’re not fun to shoot. They have one purpose: to be ready to go when you need it. They won’t let you down, they need very little maintenance, but they’re just so boring to shoot. Horrible trigger and ok sights from factory, etc. They need a lot of customizing in order to make it a fun gun to take out.
When I go to the range the Glock is literally the last thing I wanna take.
Glocks are not very user friendly for everyone. Glocks are not a one size fits all, most complain about the grip being " square" and bulky for a lot of people and ugly as a biker chick. If Glocks were so outstanding why are all the other pistol makers still in business. Glocks are ok, not stellar nor are they a majical do all pistol and lets be honest some people just flat don't like them as much as it may pain the Glock cult.
Cause they need so many upgrades after you buy them to complete it. Like buying a build "build it yourself" kit. Just get a CZ, Beretta, Smith &Wesson or Springfield XDM 5.25" and have better sights, grip, and trigger.
Springfield xd 's are pure trash
grantorino2009 Amen brother. I find there is literally nothing that needs to be done with them in order for them to shoot great. The five Glocks I own are all box stock and dead reliable.
I actually don't mind the look of a Glock..... That said I don't own one haha but there great guns and I think look fine.
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For some reason I cannot read comments on the Wilson Combat RUclips Videos.
I'd say look into Supporting Glock 21s a know a lot of Police Departments use them!!!! Arkansas State Police still use them I think!!! What better Custom Glock but a Wilson Combat Glock 21 for the Arkansas State Police!!!! lol
Because their not going to be using those anymore police are moving back into 9mm
Nope I carry 5 guns in 45!
There's nothing wrong with factory Glock sights other than being plastic. For a nominal fee, the factory will swap you some steelies or night sights. The ball in a basket sight picture is extremely fast, moreso than 3-dot, and certainly more visible than a Gold bead.
I gave this vid a thumbs up but it would've been very nice if you had shown the stippling pattern and the front sight up close.
The only reason I can think of to carry a glock for protection over the Wilson Combat 1911/2011 is relative value/cost of the guns.
If God forbid you should have to pull your personal firearm and shoot somebody just know that the police will take possession of your gun (as evidence) and you may or may not get it back - if you do get it back it will be a very long time before that happens as the wheels of the justice system move very slowly.
So, carry the Glock - you can afford to lose it (both financially and emotionally) compared to losing your Wilson Combat pistol - even temporarily. Just my 2 cents.
My buddy always after me..."shoot me glok, shoot my glok"! So when he went to the can, I did. Boy was he pissed when he pried it off the target stand all shot to hell by my Tokarev with steel core ammo. Really phucked it up!!! I said look at the brite side, you can now get a good gun instead of that piece o crap!
If Bill can make a reasonable trigger for a Glock, I'd have to start considering my first piece of Tactical Tupperware. I wouldn't mind a G29, but I just can't get past that Godawful trigger.
You just have to practice it don't take a 200 dollar trigger that is just hiding your lack of practice
The trigger is fine, one simply needs to know how to shoot.
I shoot like that!
Sum it up... we don't like Gllocks, but we like money.
... poops on Gllocks the whole video.
So you move the sights cuz you have bad trigger control and you throw shots off i thought we was taught to have good trigger control and not support bad habits by moving sights cuz bad fundamentals no hate just curious as to y
James Yeager would say you don't need modifications you need training, I can't fully agree sights and grip texture are important to me to get the feel I want on my Glock.
I don't understand. The gun is in the holster unless shooting it ! It's not a car that sits in the driveway or driving down the road. I was going to get a glock 19 until now , Glock 48 , I live in a 10 in mag state.
Because it’s fun. And nobody’s business but mine. Because I didn’t ask you for an opinion.
i customized my glock by replacing it with an M&P ;)
The M&P 2.0 is definitely an upgrade.
Sig P320 and H&K VP9 are even better.
What are you drinking?
The best custom job on a Glock is to take it into your favorite firearm shop, traded in for a CZ 75 variant, hopefully in a better caliber, or even an HK M24 that you can carry cocked and locked. Go home
I like Ken but is he drinking here?
The Brand X vs Brand Y gun wars is comical. .such a cliche,.your ego tied up in what gun company you back is hilarious. .
Guys, there is no question that you are extremely knowledgeable and influential, but it takes entirely too long for you to get to the point. I don't want to know how the watch is made, I just want to know what time it is.
Mabey wrong videos then the whole point it them talking about topics like gun guys if they just shoot out the point the video would be like 3 mins
Bill doesn't appear comfortable at all in front of the camera I'm sure he's a really nice guy but he comes across as non personable. We own two Honda Civics and two glocks don't see myself paying three grand for one gun I will stick to the Honda Civic of guns and stick with stock Glocks Maybe a 1911 in the $600 range from Rock Island or another a used one from a different manufacturer and go from there. I love America though and the free market system there is something for everyone
I customized a Glock...by tossing it in the river.
Sig owner? 🤔
Booze and guns don't mix.
According to the Glock fan club boys thought Glocks were 100% perfect out of the box......So you need to modify it to make it better imagine that Glock boys. If Glock made a copy of the 1911 it would sell........hint Glock take a hint.
No they run fine out of the box people with disposeable income jsit like to buy shit
@@kevinsaltz7849
Mr. Saltz Sr, I do hope that your shooting is at least slightly more accurate than your spelling, Because if not......
Terrible video. takes forever to get to the point and doesn’t even show a close ups of the gun.
I agree, he likes to talk but show the reason for the title of the video, lets see them up close, tell about the trigger pull modification. Are they doing mods that make it better or just making products to sell to the huge glock market to cash in?
Sorry guys you lost me on this one.
Glocks don't need mods other than sights ... people who need to customized their guns, are usually people with no training.
Or people with more money than sense or it just has to look high tech it's basically all looks and very little added function modding Glocks with after market stuff from different companies usually just makes you have a really expensive range gun that hiccups all the time
buy a glock then replace most every part shows ya what a piece of shit it is.
Glock's awesome but overrated.
There are several striker fired pistols that are better like the Sig Sauer P320, Ruger SR9, M&P's with custom triggers, etc.
Glocks are plastic trash. Tried once, never again.