@@olofacosta3192I think she is, Logan genuinely does love them just in a very fucked up way, but I don’t think Caroline actually loves them. I dont think we ever really got proof of that.
@@littleoldmanboyAlso, look at Logan's funeral again. Notice how Caroline didn't even comfort Roman when he broke down because he couldn't finish his eulogy? That's her son, for God's sake! Even Connor who is his half brother comfort him.
@@littleoldmanboyLogan didn't love his kids. He was incapable of love. It's honestly scary the amount of people who are willing to read his abuse as love.
What’s funny about Caroline is she actually tends to show solidarity with other women frequently except for her own daughter and anyone married to Logan.
Shiv is Logan's favourite kid. He's softer to her than any of his other kids, and kinder to her than his own ex-wife. Caroline being the way she is definitely doesn't like that, hence her behaviour with Shiv. She loves her sons more, in her own way.
To me she only showed sympathy for Greg. There are scenes in which she clearly shows disdain towards her sons such as the one in which Ken wanted to talk about the dead kid
@@rubendevos8635She's probably telling Greg on her own way from her body language when she talks to Greg, "Look, you are working with my ex-husband and my kids, I'm telling you, they are terrible people and I want you to be careful around them."
I think her character and casting are excellent as you can imagine her being the kind of woman that Logan would have been confounded by when he was younger. You can also imagine her holding her own in the bitter divorce they went through 😂
Definetly she probably helped him get into the society circles and made him.have a better social standing in the early days. 😂 I'd say she destroyed him but I like that they don't speak hateful about each other they know exactly what the others like.
@@lancelot4718 what I interpreted was that she’s saying “meh, you’re palatable, nothing special, not impressive. HIS response lets her that she made the correct assumption because he wasn’t bright enough to pick up the subtle insult she assaulted him with 😆
Harriet Walter’s been on EVERY hot show and movie of the last five years. Downton Abbey, Belgravia, The Crown, Rocketman, Killing Eve, Dr. Who, and Succession. She’s shone in every single role, each more different than the last. The woman’s a beast. She must have one hell of an agent, too. What a glorious actor.
She’s fantastic. The first time I saw her was in a BBC crime drama called Waking the Dead where she played a woman jailed for murdering her 10 year old son’s best friend. She played a really fragile, downtrodden seeming woman but also had a real strength to her and I didn’t know what to make of her character. I didn’t even realise she also played Lady Shackleton in Downton while watching it and then watching Succession thought I recognised her again. Phenomenal actress. She’s so distinctive but totally unique in every role.
I feel that Roman is her favorite, so they have the "best" relationship of all of the kids. The fact that he went to see her in S4 after everything, speaks volumes. I can't imagine Kendall or Shiv doing that.
Caroline is a fabulous character, and Harriet Walter plays her to perfection. I think any chance of a healed relationship with her kids was torched after the end of season 3, but I'd still love for her to return in any capacity.
@@maiaracarvalho6573Yeah, it's a shame how masses of people (in any fanbase) fundamentally can't suspend their disbelief and separate reality and fiction. Until those ppl are able to do so, they'll continue to miss out on the best parts of storytelling.
@nigapriva She's saying Tom --bumbling, not "to the manor born," a bit of a dope, but will mostly do what he's told because he so badly wants to be part of this world--seems like a perfectly reasonable husband for Shiv to settle for. Or at least that's how I took it lol
Yeah with her you could jokingly throw shit at each other and then go for a cup of tea, while Logan would just scream at you like a maniac and you need strong alcohol after that. @@curioushoodie
Caroline's reaction for not getting credited for giving birth to Kendall, Roman, and Shiv was so satisfying. She's funny but my god, even my mother isn't this terrible.
It's also his payback for her ghosting him when he wanted to talk about the waiter that died on car crash but since he didn't have much courage to talk to her as he was tired, he said he's gonna talk to her tomorrow. Anddd in the next day, she left. "My son looks depressed and wants to talk to me? Nahh...."
While she’s a good enough actress Ehhh.. I strongly disagree she did Not suit the role.. half of her scene pulled me out of the immersion actually..she Not anyone’s prime choice for a brutus sorry Not sorry
I want to see Caroline Collingwood and the Godmother from Fleabag sit down for a cup of tea. Small animals would retreat into their burrows and the birds would disappear from the sky.
Each child seems to express one of her personalities which she holds in utter contempt. She can see clearly around the bend when it comes to each of their motives and holds the carrot just out of reach. “Daddy didn’t give affection. And the boy was something that mommy wouldn’t wear.”
@@jayclearmen411 i don't think so ,she literally admit it and know they're both using eachother and she's an aristocrat all of this is nothing new to her lol
If Succession had a fifth season they might have explored Peter a bit more for comedic purposes - he is played by the great Pip Torrens who was unforgettable as Tommy Lascelles in The Crown.
My favourite quote - which is very English upper class with the unquestionable self belief that comes with it, is 'he knew your father and me when he was doing something even more boring' brilliantly captured.
Rupert Murdoch’s first wife was a posh English lady, for all his claims decades ago about the UK being full of types from that background who sought to stymie Rupert the by his bootstraps Aussie disrupter (inherited his Father’s newspaper business) with a contempt for all it represents, plan A seemed to consist of marrying into it.
wasnt she also a bit crazy, and may have even been committed (I think it was in the bio man who owns the news), which is why Prudence came to live with them. Just like Connor.
I've liked her since she played Harriet Vane in the Peter Wimsey mysteries. Traveled to Oxford because of Gaudy Night (as tens of thousands of fans do).
New watcher here, but after seeing Harriet Walter in the cast, I just picture her acting like Caroline from Succession, placing bets, asking everyone long will they give it until someone else dies. And also saving the bread nubbies
I'm like that in general. I just find every little thing funny, and if something reminds me of something terrible, I'll just laugh about it. Like when she responds to Shiv, "Hmm, like a Nazi." Hahaha, I swear I say things like that, but I find it funny. It's not my intention to hurt somebody else's feelings. If anything, I'd like others to laugh about the absurdity of a situation. Obviously, I don't make jokes when I feel another person is not in a "humorous" mood. Maybe that's what makes her despicable. In fact, this is funny because it's edited, but if you watch the whole scene, you'll always feel their pain because her jokes are used as venomous weapons that leave her children bleeding for a week.
ℹ think Stewy and Kendall became friends in college. ℹ think Kendall mentioned it somewhere. Thus, it makes sense to not know him or recognize him. The kids left her relatively young.
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walking around asking “how long do you give it?” on your daughter’s wedding is insane 😭
"... Wha- is there... doubt afoot?"
And after Stewey gives a clever reply “Oh you… beast!”
Very reasonable
But she said "Forever" when asked lol
More parents should say the quiet part out loud 😂
Saying “It’s not all about you” to her daughter, on said daughter’s wedding day…. It’s just perfect
She honestly might be a worse parent than Logan lol
@olofacosta3192
At least she knows she's terrible
@@olofacosta3192I think she is, Logan genuinely does love them just in a very fucked up way, but I don’t think Caroline actually loves them. I dont think we ever really got proof of that.
@@littleoldmanboyAlso, look at Logan's funeral again. Notice how Caroline didn't even comfort Roman when he broke down because he couldn't finish his eulogy? That's her son, for God's sake! Even Connor who is his half brother comfort him.
@@littleoldmanboyLogan didn't love his kids.
He was incapable of love.
It's honestly scary the amount of people who are willing to read his abuse as love.
Seeing her take Roman’s humor a step further to shock him is so fun lol
it's stings extra hard because roman is telling the truth
She is where Roman gets his personality from
2:11 😂
She's unshakable.
“It’s not all about you, Shiv”
It’s literally her wedding day.
She's trying to sparkle.
What’s funny about Caroline is she actually tends to show solidarity with other women frequently except for her own daughter and anyone married to Logan.
Until the funeral
Shiv is Logan's favourite kid. He's softer to her than any of his other kids, and kinder to her than his own ex-wife. Caroline being the way she is definitely doesn't like that, hence her behaviour with Shiv. She loves her sons more, in her own way.
To me she only showed sympathy for Greg. There are scenes in which she clearly shows disdain towards her sons such as the one in which Ken wanted to talk about the dead kid
@@rubendevos8635 exactly. She is really one of the worst people in a show that is about bad people. She could not care less about her kids.
@@rubendevos8635She's probably telling Greg on her own way from her body language when she talks to Greg,
"Look, you are working with my ex-husband and my kids, I'm telling you, they are terrible people and I want you to be careful around them."
“Like a nazi” took me out
The delivery of the line was so subtle. Perfect.
Also a good foreshadow to Shiv acquiescing to her father’s demand to be in the family photo supporting a nativist fascist presidential candidate
It's such a SHIV but treated like a throwaway 😊
I think her character and casting are excellent as you can imagine her being the kind of woman that Logan would have been confounded by when he was younger. You can also imagine her holding her own in the bitter divorce they went through 😂
I feel like he was chewed up and spat out by her, despite his personality.
She’s also as selfish as Logan
@@jtgd Nah i seriously doubt that..
Definetly she probably helped him get into the society circles and made him.have a better social standing in the early days. 😂 I'd say she destroyed him but I like that they don't speak hateful about each other they know exactly what the others like.
Well said
@@ecelebbullshit3513 Hey buddy, what are you doing in a TV show comment section? Turning your brain to mush?
1:47 "is there doubt afoot?" is one of the funniest lines written for television.
Hahahaha! "If it's to be said. So it is."
Hahahah I thought so too! Is this how Greg thinks the English speak? 🤣
@@kessa892 Isn’t it how most americans think the english speak?
I would fancy Greg could learn a lot from Lady Collingwood. their banter would be a hoot
@@kessa892 honestly this is just how Greg acts around everyone😂
Her exchange with Stewy at 2:52 is absolutely spectacular. He's the only one who caught her off guard, dare I say she was a little turned on by it.
Game recognized game
She wanted more of that lmao
Im not sure I got the joke with Stewy ...
@@romeorodrigues3680 it's phrased in an odd way but he's basically implying that Shiv probably cheats on Tom and the wedding won't change that.
@@BatmanHQYT yeah thats why I thought but wasnt sure ... thanks for clearing that up
1:43 When Greg says “is there doubt afoot?” Kills me everytime 😭😭
such innocence 😅 probably the classiest way to respond to snide jabs
It's always the same when his around there mom, even at her wedding because he was hanging out with the princess he was speaking like some Lord. 😂😂
I'm gonna use that
"You're very plausible"
"Thank you."
"Exactly"
GENIUS WRITING!!!
@@bryansparkman4833 cn u explain that pls
@@lancelot4718 what I interpreted was that she’s saying “meh, you’re palatable, nothing special, not impressive. HIS response lets her that she made the correct assumption because he wasn’t bright enough to pick up the subtle insult she assaulted him with 😆
@@bryansparkman4833 ohhh wow. 100% logans ex
@@lancelot4718 🤣🤣
She's uncomfortably good at playing this type of lonely misery
The whole of England is in a tragically hilarious kind of way.
Shiv: "So, how are you?
Caroline: " Well I just might well ask you if you're going to go into all that."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Harriet Walter’s been on EVERY hot show and movie of the last five years. Downton Abbey, Belgravia, The Crown, Rocketman, Killing Eve, Dr. Who, and Succession. She’s shone in every single role, each more different than the last. The woman’s a beast. She must have one hell of an agent, too. What a glorious actor.
ted lasso as well
She has a long/highly accomplished career in the UK.
@@muiresuilgorm3452 I’ve been reading all about that 🙃
She’s fantastic. The first time I saw her was in a BBC crime drama called Waking the Dead where she played a woman jailed for murdering her 10 year old son’s best friend. She played a really fragile, downtrodden seeming woman but also had a real strength to her and I didn’t know what to make of her character. I didn’t even realise she also played Lady Shackleton in Downton while watching it and then watching Succession thought I recognised her again. Phenomenal actress. She’s so distinctive but totally unique in every role.
she plays a lesbian priest in Flowers
2:13 I like that Caroline found Roman’s joke funny and then upped the ante with her own fucked up joke which shocked Roman, king of off-kilter.
I feel that Roman is her favorite, so they have the "best" relationship of all of the kids. The fact that he went to see her in S4 after everything, speaks volumes. I can't imagine Kendall or Shiv doing that.
I don't understand the joke. What did she meant by you should marry that one??
I would love to watch a prequel about a young Caroline and Logan. I’m sure it would make for a horribly depressing comedy.
I love how everytime Kendall and Rory call her mom its in a British accent "mum" 😂
*Roman
“Did you just come back from the front?” 😂😂😂
“the head of his middle eastern operations”
“marcia?”
“yea, marcia.”
2:53 dream blunt rotation
I would also add Tabitha, she seems cool
hell yeah
@@galaxyghost1340 Willa
Caroline is a fabulous character, and Harriet Walter plays her to perfection. I think any chance of a healed relationship with her kids was torched after the end of season 3, but I'd still love for her to return in any capacity.
Yes, who doesn’t love an ignorant, cold hearted, bile spilling mother.
@@rishabhaniket1952 on TV that’s great, real life definitely not so much lol
@@maiaracarvalho6573Yeah, it's a shame how masses of people (in any fanbase) fundamentally can't suspend their disbelief and separate reality and fiction.
Until those ppl are able to do so, they'll continue to miss out on the best parts of storytelling.
She’s honestly my favorite side character
My God, I grew up in an upper middle class English environment and I have to tell you this is **exactly** how the women are. Brilliant rating.
"You're very plausible" 💀
SAVAGE😆😆😆
"Exactly"
i don't get it. What does that imply?
@nigapriva She's saying Tom --bumbling, not "to the manor born," a bit of a dope, but will mostly do what he's told because he so badly wants to be part of this world--seems like a perfectly reasonable husband for Shiv to settle for. Or at least that's how I took it lol
The fact that he says “thank you” and she says “exactly” makes it so much funnier lmao
i actually can't decide who to hate more if these two were my parents; not for all the billions would I wish this to be my family
If I had billions I could probably buy a new mom and dad. AKA fund my own adoption lmao
If I must choose one between the two, I'd pick Caroline. At least her quips would entertaining. Logan would just constantly scream at you.
Haha.. give me that billions. I already had a mother like Caroline so I can handle the trauma😂
Yeah with her you could jokingly throw shit at each other and then go for a cup of tea, while Logan would just scream at you like a maniac and you need strong alcohol after that. @@curioushoodie
God i loved Caroline she served so much fucking cvnt in ever scene she was in
bruh she said like a Nazi 😂💀
total queen. i love her. connor and her are my favourites. i love their dottiness.
Willa and Caroline vs Marcia
You’re very plausible… omg that foretold his success right there
Caroline's reaction for not getting credited for giving birth to Kendall, Roman, and Shiv was so satisfying. She's funny but my god, even my mother isn't this terrible.
It's also his payback for her ghosting him when he wanted to talk about the waiter that died on car crash but since he didn't have much courage to talk to her as he was tired, he said he's gonna talk to her tomorrow. Anddd in the next day, she left.
"My son looks depressed and wants to talk to me? Nahh...."
“You’re very plausible” put me in defense mode
1:46 "Is there doubt afoot?!" 😂😂😂😂 his delivery of certain lines elevates the script so much
Her punch lines are absolutely devastating. 5 mics.
Seeing Logan and Caroline, I've no doubts why the Roy siblings turned out the way they are.
‘likewise ..your Excellency’ fucking so funny 😭
She is a fantastic actress. She played Brutus in Julius Caesar and it was fenomenal!
While she’s a good enough actress Ehhh.. I strongly disagree she did Not suit the role.. half of her scene pulled me out of the immersion actually..she Not anyone’s prime choice for a brutus sorry Not sorry
@@jayclearmen411 Have you watched the play? Apart from that we can agree to disagree.
She was fantastic as Lady MacBeth!
People hate Caroline? She's one of my favorites
i forgot about greg the egg until i saw this 😭top ten line deliveries of all time
It's almost sweet.
And he is… SUCH an egg
what an inspiring woman 😊 I love her
I always got the feeling that Logan never quite got over her 😂
I love her! Well done the casting department
I want to see Caroline Collingwood and the Godmother from Fleabag sit down for a cup of tea.
Small animals would retreat into their burrows and the birds would disappear from the sky.
The Godmother would cry
“Is there doubt afoot?” Whoever wrote that had to of chuckled when they wrote it.
Each child seems to express one of her personalities which she holds in utter contempt. She can see clearly around the bend when it comes to each of their motives and holds the carrot just out of reach. “Daddy didn’t give affection. And the boy was something that mommy wouldn’t wear.”
The Head of Middle Eastern Operations….😂😂😂😂
That was hysterical 😂
Greg’s “is there doubt afoot” is one of his most underrated lines lmao
Peter is definitely interested in Caroline for her mony and access to Logan
Well, she openly admitted that...
She’s going to be soooo hurt when he leaves her..oof she puts on a decent show but i see through her act she’s lonely an it shows..
@@jayclearmen411 i don't think so ,she literally admit it and know they're both using eachother and she's an aristocrat all of this is nothing new to her lol
If Succession had a fifth season they might have explored Peter a bit more for comedic purposes - he is played by the great Pip Torrens who was unforgettable as Tommy Lascelles in The Crown.
Roman is terrified of that new revolting husband Peter. Played so well by Pip Torrens.
Harriet and Pip could have their own show: he was so brilliant as Tommy Lascelles in The Crown
She is so fun character😂😂
I just remember her as the evil cousin in Ang Lee’s Sense and Sensibility in 1994 😊
Evil sister in law , not cousin
My favourite quote - which is very English upper class with the unquestionable self belief that comes with it, is 'he knew your father and me when he was doing something even more boring' brilliantly captured.
“is there doubt a foot?”
“if it is to be said, so it be, so it is.”
me when i’m doing my school papers
I actually really appreciate her and have sympathy for the difficulties of her life
Rupert Murdoch’s first wife was a posh English lady, for all his claims decades ago about the UK being full of types from that background who sought to stymie Rupert the by his bootstraps Aussie disrupter (inherited his Father’s newspaper business) with a contempt for all it represents, plan A seemed to consist of marrying into it.
wasnt she also a bit crazy, and may have even been committed (I think it was in the bio man who owns the news), which is why Prudence came to live with them. Just like Connor.
Probably also why his current divorce proceedings required her to agree not to sell any stories about their relationship to shows like succession
Where was the scene where she tells shiv she's smart for not having kids and some people aren't born to be mothers?
"Yeah that's the story... everybody remember the story"
“You’re very plausible” was crazy but still not the craziest thing shes said
Caroline in the future on retirement home:
"Where are my kids? Why aren't they ever visiting me?"
I love how she just disdainfully turns and walks away about delivering the venom.
“Tom, look at you. Very plausible.”😂😂😂😂😂
That little twist of the knife. Not just that he looked like an egg but that it was mis-shapen.
It’s crazy how much Roman is like Caroline
Clearly Logan has a type.
Mostly agree, I feel like Kerry is the odd one out
@hazardousjazzgasm129 maybe he wanted to feel young right as he was about to check out
"Like a Nazi" is absolutely iconic
Her acting seems effortless in its dry precision.
I want to see her in season 4 one last wit
I see why Roman wants her
I loved her.
Ah the good ol story of the skunk, the porcupine or the concubine.
Harriet Walter is a gift to the world. ❤️
The OG almond mom.
I've liked her since she played Harriet Vane in the Peter Wimsey mysteries. Traveled to Oxford because of Gaudy Night (as tens of thousands of fans do).
best character
To think these people could actually exist in our world!
I am anxiously awaiting her s4 appearance
"like a nazi" is crazy😭😭
We need her in season 4
She will be … she was in the previews.
When she also happens to be “Rebecca Welton”‘s mum😂😂😂
Lisa Vanderpump vibes
Underrated comment. "Show yourself out darling!"
So true
Caroline is better than that.
New watcher here, but after seeing Harriet Walter in the cast, I just picture her acting like Caroline from Succession, placing bets, asking everyone long will they give it until someone else dies. And also saving the bread nubbies
2:22 Police fella look like discount Ralph Fiennes
2:02 so british! the correct thing to say is 'so, nice weather we've been having'
Like a distaff Jeremy Irons.
"Plausible..." I know you are marrying for money!
With a mother like that, no wonder her kids are like that
Caroline was a beast 😂
Ok dumb question. What does skunk porcupine line mean?
Cuts like a knife 😂
She’s like a British Lucille Bluth
she is my favorite Roy.
Curious to see if she comes through for her grandchild.
I'm like that in general. I just find every little thing funny, and if something reminds me of something terrible, I'll just laugh about it. Like when she responds to Shiv, "Hmm, like a Nazi." Hahaha, I swear I say things like that, but I find it funny. It's not my intention to hurt somebody else's feelings. If anything, I'd like others to laugh about the absurdity of a situation. Obviously, I don't make jokes when I feel another person is not in a "humorous" mood.
Maybe that's what makes her despicable. In fact, this is funny because it's edited, but if you watch the whole scene, you'll always feel their pain because her jokes are used as venomous weapons that leave her children bleeding for a week.
None of the siblings look alike but Kendall and Caroline look similar, just like Shiv and Logan do.
Stewy and Kendall have known each other for 20 years and his mom didn't know who he was?
ℹ think Stewy and Kendall became friends in college. ℹ think Kendall mentioned it somewhere. Thus, it makes sense to not know him or recognize him. The kids left her relatively young.
That’s just British humour
When you think that Logan is the worst parent ever they introduce you to this
Harriet was flagged up 25 yrs ago, keep up!
she should play Marine Le Pen 😈
Look at you…you’re very plausible.
so, how are you? i might just as well ask you, if we're going to go into all that... OMG