I agree its probably frustrating for those that don't have access to a cnc. But the same circles can be cut with a variety of other tools. Jigsaw, bandsaw, coping saw, or with the use of a table jig. You could jump on facebook market place and find someone selling custom signs that you know has a cnc and request them to cut the circles.
CNC just means it’s exact. I’m currently trying to do this with a $60 Harbor Freight bench top drill press and a $30 hole cutter and an $8 reamer. I’m cutting the circles out of 1” thick surplus PVC decking. The results are pretty rough (PVC “dust” is coarse and there’s lots of static charge) and the drum has a bit of a wobble so I’m going to have to sand the circle cutouts smith like he did with the PVC drum and then wrapping the circumference in tape to try and fill the gap. PS: I also don’t have a 1hp motor lying around so I’m going to buy a cheap corded drill.
@@kwaktak Neil, maybe you can find an old pool pump motor, that's where I got mine from. I also experimented in the past with taking the grind wheel off my wheel grinder and replacing it with a homemade pulley, then using that as the motor to power a homemade lathe. Not sure if that will work for you but worth a try.
I used to have a DIY Drum Sander but is taking too much space in my shop so I got rid of it. After a few years, I realize I really need one. I'm thinking of a design that will save space when stored, but will not compromise accuracy. Anyway, thanks for your video, I really like the PVC instead of using wood although out.
I agree, space and storage is a huge factor. Right now I store mine on the floor in some underutilized space. I highly recommend the PVC method, it worked great, I get really good results.
Yea you're right Ed, having multiple drums would be nice. But honestly for my use case, I haven't had a need to swap out my original drum and original paper. I really only use this for when I do a batch of inlay boards, engrain boards, or large epoxy inlays.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry gonna have to find a good motor somewhere first. But definitely gonna keep the project in mind. Or might just cave and buy a Supermax or Jet lol.
@@derkadesigns If you have a grind wheel, you could remove the grind stone and add a pulley instead. Not sure if it'll be powerful enough, but great way to utilize an on hand tool that doesn't get used too often.
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Great video! Going to buy the plans and hope for the best! ?, Will this work with 1/4" boards? Would like to belt sand the material after resawing walnut and maple for small boxes. Thank you again, well done!
yes it will. if you need to raise the platform just add some scrap 2x4 spacers under so you aren't having to screw and unscrew the bolt so much. Use business cards to shim either side if your platform isn't perfectly parallel with the drum.
great design. i am just starting off as a wood worker and i was looking forward to build one since the commercial ones cost a ton. thanks to you i can build a low cost one. 1 question: what are specs of the motor you have used?
4:12 use the sole of an old basketball shoe… free and “almost” as good as the block eraser. Note: in the 80’s this worked great because all the soles were the same kinda rubber. Today Cheaper shoes work better because they are still the old material
Nice video. I picked up a set of your plans. I see from your replies that you used a 1.5 HP pool motor. Do you know what the motor's RPM is? I'm hoping to find a decent used motor and don't want it under powered or under speed. I'm sure I could play with pulley sizes if the speed is off, but I bought your plans so I don't have to reinvent the wheel, so to speak 🙂.
I honestly didn't do any math for the pulley sizes and motor RPMs. But what I did ended up working out great. I'd recommend making a few different sized pulleys and stacking them on both the motor and drum, kinda like a drill press so you can change where the belt engages to change the RPMs
Great video and straight forward design that appears to be an easy build. Just some trial and error on the circles inside the PVC. Suggestion: Ya know those belt erasers can get pretty pricey at times and they really don't last that long. I used the soles of some old worn out tennis shoes and they work great. Give it a try and save a few bucks.
Helpful video. Any potential issues with the pvc overheating and warping? I'm planning on using mine fairly heavily. Thinking about using MDF for the drum, but pvc looks a lot easier.
I built a similar machine after looking at your project. My drum is made of steel and weighs 20 kilograms. The motor is a 2 horsepower, 1400 RPM motor. It spins smoothly and well. However, when I feed the workpiece into the machine, it gets thrown off. What could be the issue here can you help me ..thanks
@@KeimpieceCarpentry not kick back but it pulls off with force .. so forceful that it doesn't sand the wood but just pulls it off and throws of the workpiece
Nope! I've only used this for small inlay work. I think the max width of those cutting boards was 8 inches. However, the reason I build it 24 inches wide is because my planer is 12 inches. So if I had to plane down two boards then glue them up, I wanted to be able to remove the glue line with the 24 inch wide sander. But yea, this thing is very big and takes up a lot of space. Definitely something to consider when building your own.
Hey David, your concerns about friction and heating up are valid. There are a few variables with my specific use case that doesn't make it a problem. I have 80 grit paper on mine so it does a pretty good job at removing material. If I had 220 for example I think heat from friction would be a bigger issues as it would have more surface area contact and removing less material. More of a buffing effect. Second is I have to feed all my pieces in by hand, so I get a really good sense of the resistance, if it's too much I just back it off a bit. It's easy to find a sweet spot where the drum is removing enough material but it's not overloading the motor. But to you point, yes if you were to try and take too much material off in one pass for a long time, there would be heat generated. Would it be enough to warp the drum? Who knows, I hope I don't find out.
I just used it the other day on an epoxy filled piece of walnut. Works just fine. I would def put the pulley on the inside of the frame to save space. I would put my adjustment knob on the other side. The way the motor spins I have to walk around to the back side to make an adjustment. I would add some dust collection, but other than that the thing only cost a few bucks so I store it in my shed and when i need it I set it up outside, use it, put it back in the shed.
@@thenext9537 yep, if I'm doing a bunch of inlay cutting boards it really comes in handy. I don't do them enough to justify buying a 1500 dollar drum sander though
Thanks for watching and buying the plans. I used a 1.5 HP and it works fine. I didn't do any math for the pulleys to determine speed I just did what I thought would work and it works just fine. You can make multiple sized pulleys so you have the flexibility to speed up or slow down
I find it quite funny how you used your impact to drill and then your drill to drive. I like the pvc pipe idea but without a CNC its hard to make circles for the ID of pipe :/
Hey Sam, yea somethings it just depends which bits I have in which drill. MDF is really easy to work so I think you'll be just find tracing a circle template and rough cutting with a jig saw or bandsaw then sanding up to the line. The gorilla glue expands a lot so you're going to get a solid fit no matter if the circles aren't perfect. Then even if the axis is off a bit, sanding that PVC down while it's spinning while referencing your base board will take any error out. I agree, it seems kinda silly starting a video like this off with a cnc machine, but hey, I have a cnc so I'm going to use it. I still have this drum sander and use it for all inlay, epoxy, end grain boards, and it's working great, still have the original sand paper on there too. I've been tempting to buy a drum sander but this things works just find and I don't use it enough to justify the $2k
Hey Brent, thanks for the interest. Here is a link to my website to get the plans. Let me know how you like them. keimpiece.com/collections/build-plans-digital-files/products/drum-sander-build-plans
How well will this work for thickness very thin glued uo sections? Say 12 inch wide by about 1/4 "inch thick .... I wanna be able To sand down to a 1/16th.....and I see there's no conveyer.... so I'm not sure if ita going to be useful to build this or not?...
because the drum is spinning towards you so you force the piece through, if you ran it in from the other side it would shoot it across the room. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching the video and the question. The motor I found for free from an old pool pump, it's been sitting around my garage for years waiting for me to figure out what to do with it. Anyone who does projects that require a drum sander is very likely an active wood worker and will likely have scrap 2x4s and a handful of screws laying around the shop. The pulley I think I had laying around from something else I can't recall. If you don't have those things laying around, then yes it'll cost more than 60 bucks.
@stringmankzk Great video! Straight into the business of the build, not showing unnecessary steps like EVERY board you cut, no big elaborate intro, no stupid jokes or trying to be quirky, the music was great and not overbearing, and most importantly, you know your audience. You seem to know that anybody who would want to build this already knows how to build stuff. There's nothing worse than watching a RUclips builder explaining EVERY detail of their build. This is my first visit to your channel and you've easily won me over...subscribed!
Thanks for the kind words! Yea, that was definitely what I was going for, short sweet and to the point. A lot of my early videos were like that. But as I got to bigger projects like the shed, gazebo, and treehouse, it was really hard to condense all that footage down. Let me know what you think of my other videos. @@Geolaw1
Jason, the motor is 1 1/2 HP and it was reclaimed from an old pool pump. Its able to be wired at 240v or 120v. For this application I kept it at 120v and it works just fine. I didn't do any crazy math to figure out pulley ratios for rotations per min, I just went for it and it works great.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry I think I can get a similar motor from a pool pump. Have you tried doing a very wide board through, which it looks like you may be able to get something like maybe ~18 - 20" through there? Just wondering how that motor will handle that kinda load. Thanks for this vid. Think I'll gonna have fun trying this project :)
It was the name of a boat I was commissioned to make a custom sign for. I must have just written it on a piece of scrap wood to ensure I got the spelling right.
Love the use of the 45° router bit to make the v belt pulley!! Do you find 3/4 MDF sufficient for the pulley and what RPM was the driver motor and the driven drum sander in the end?
Thanks, yes the MDF is holding up just fine, no problems at all. I have no idea what the RPMs are, there was no science behind the pulley sizes I made, I just guessed, and it seems to work out perfectly for my use case.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry thanks, man! 3/4 is better. And you also have that thick PVC pipe... mine is half as thick.. cannot find thicker ones over here.. I tried with 1/2 inch threaded rod at first, it flexed and wobbled, then 1/2 steel bar 1mm thick, than it also flexed. I will try a 1 inch thick bar, to compensate for my thin pipe... see if it works. Thanks a lot!!!!
I found that feed rate doesn't matter, I just pass the boards through manually, I can feel the resistance on the piece so I can adjust the depth manually so it's only taking off a little bit of material.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry My buddy and I have been making some cutting boards and we've never put the end grain ones through the planer but sanding sucks and I would like to build one of these. If it's truly a matter of feel, then I think we'll have no problem with it. It can't be any worse of a result than hand sanding. I have the pillow blocks, 2x4s, melamine for the base and was thinking of doing an inclined plane type thing for the height adjustment with a threaded rod to move it. I'll have to take video and share it when I make it.
Charles, the pillow block bearings I used have build it lock collars. Super easy to use, they have a small recessed allen screw. Here is the link for the ones I used. Pillow Block Bearings | amzn.to/2Uc5rSf
@@KeimpieceCarpentry Did you think about doing 2 bolts on each side, independent of each other? You're already measuring so you know what shims to use or when you're level. You'd be adjusting both bolts similar to what you do with the shims. Just a thought. Now I'll go out to my drum sander-less workshop :(
you can just cut the circles out with a jig saw, or scroll saw, or band saw, or coping saw. There ya go, I just helped out the guy that doesn't have mucho cash. Thanks for watching the video.
why not use only one wheel in each end and simple ,i think is same effective because that pvc pipe is hard and rigid ..im thinking in make my own drum sander but i dont want to put so many wheels inside the pipe ..yes im lazy .at this point i have all pieces cut over my work bench to finish i have just to put the drum parts togetter .is only 21 inches whide but my proyects right now are less whide than that .
I think you may be right, 2 wheels might work. 3 wheels would for sure be enough. I'm spoiled with my cnc so it was easy for me to make 5 wheels. Let me know how yours turns out with 2 wheels.
Putting flexing of the pipe aside, don't forget all the power is transmitted through the wheels with their glued connection to the axle being the weakest link. One at each end may fail under load without additional reinforcement.
@@dirtmover123 i made it all ready ,but i screwed the wheels to the axe glued the wheels prior to screw them and sanded to a smooth finish .is working good right now ,i made it again only with wheels glued and screwed the wheels on each tip ,and ready sanded super nice sanding machine ,fast and flat,smooth,.just have to sand with a fine papel with my orbital and the finiah is beautyful.
You don't need a cnc to cut circles out of MDF. You could easily use a scroll saw, jig saw, band saw, coping saw, tablesaw jig. But yea I get your point. Such a shame to see you go. Thanks for watching and commenting though before leaving.
I like how a budget DIY build starts with using a CNC machine.
I agree its probably frustrating for those that don't have access to a cnc. But the same circles can be cut with a variety of other tools. Jigsaw, bandsaw, coping saw, or with the use of a table jig. You could jump on facebook market place and find someone selling custom signs that you know has a cnc and request them to cut the circles.
CNC just means it’s exact. I’m currently trying to do this with a $60 Harbor Freight bench top drill press and a $30 hole cutter and an $8 reamer. I’m cutting the circles out of 1” thick surplus PVC decking. The results are pretty rough (PVC “dust” is coarse and there’s lots of static charge) and the drum has a bit of a wobble so I’m going to have to sand the circle cutouts smith like he did with the PVC drum and then wrapping the circumference in tape to try and fill the gap.
PS: I also don’t have a 1hp motor lying around so I’m going to buy a cheap corded drill.
@@kwaktak Neil, maybe you can find an old pool pump motor, that's where I got mine from. I also experimented in the past with taking the grind wheel off my wheel grinder and replacing it with a homemade pulley, then using that as the motor to power a homemade lathe. Not sure if that will work for you but worth a try.
Huh.. and here I used a 2" PVC with a 2" wood rod in the middle... 1" would work also... It creates the support even better.
@@jst1man Nice job!
This is one of the better DYI sanders I've seen on YT.....Just simple, get the job done! 👍
thanks for watching! I still use it today, never even changed the paper out yet. For what it is, works great.
Thank you for your service. My dad was army infantry during WW II
Thanks for watching, let me know what you think of my other videos
I used to have a DIY Drum Sander but is taking too much space in my shop so I got rid of it. After a few years, I realize I really need one. I'm thinking of a design that will save space when stored, but will not compromise accuracy. Anyway, thanks for your video, I really like the PVC instead of using wood although out.
I agree, space and storage is a huge factor. Right now I store mine on the floor in some underutilized space. I highly recommend the PVC method, it worked great, I get really good results.
EXCELLENT !!!! ,,,,and THANK YOU for your Service!
THANKS FOR WATCHING. Let me know what you think of my other videos
Thanks, grabbing some great ideas for a similar thickness sander, very clever sandpaper attachment "notch", all the best.
Thanks for watching
Well done. Simple and robust design. Especially like the 2x4 frame.
Thanks for watching! it's worked well for me! Dust collection would be a good add on though.
This is a great design. Also, use Stump Nubs' idea of multiple sanding drums for different jobs. Makes it easy to swap out the sandpaper as needed.
Yea you're right Ed, having multiple drums would be nice. But honestly for my use case, I haven't had a need to swap out my original drum and original paper. I really only use this for when I do a batch of inlay boards, engrain boards, or large epoxy inlays.
nice design. thanks a lot for showing it
Thanks for watching, let me know what you think of my other videos
@@KeimpieceCarpentry definitely, I’ll check them out. thanks!
That's awesome. Love how simple it is.
Thanks! it works great, I just wish I had made it a bit smaller, takes up a lot of space.
Awesome, thanks for remembering me. Can’t wait to give this a shot.
Let me know how it turns out
@@KeimpieceCarpentry gonna have to find a good motor somewhere first. But definitely gonna keep the project in mind. Or might just cave and buy a Supermax or Jet lol.
@@derkadesigns If you have a grind wheel, you could remove the grind stone and add a pulley instead. Not sure if it'll be powerful enough, but great way to utilize an on hand tool that doesn't get used too often.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry don’t own one, might have to get one from harbor freight and see what happens.
Here is a link to the plans if you want them. keimpiece.com/collections/build-plans-digital-files/products/drum-sander-build-plans
The AR AK cutting boards at the end got you a sub, my man!
I'm honored!
Can’t believe u built that!!
Yea and you got to see it in person!
What a STUD!! Nice work Keimpiece!
Kyle you've won the award for the first comment! Congratulations! You've won my appreciation . . . which you already have . . . so I guess you've won nothing . . . damn
A wonderful sander!
Thanks for watching
Great video! Going to buy the plans and hope for the best! ?, Will this work with 1/4" boards? Would like to belt sand the material after resawing walnut and maple for small boxes. Thank you again, well done!
yes it will. if you need to raise the platform just add some scrap 2x4 spacers under so you aren't having to screw and unscrew the bolt so much. Use business cards to shim either side if your platform isn't perfectly parallel with the drum.
THanks a lot
of course
Intersesting will apply some techniques.... thank for taking the time.
Intresting cutting board.... is there location to add notches?
yes, thanks for watching
Thanks for sharing, nice project. Full View and Like 👍
Thanks Allen! I'm glad you liked it.
Excellent video and process Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching, check out my other videos and let me know what you think
Good stuff!
Thanks for watching!
Love it. Thanks!
Thanks for watching, glad you liked it! Let me know what you think of my other videos
great design. i am just starting off as a wood worker and i was looking forward to build one since the commercial ones cost a ton. thanks to you i can build a low cost one. 1 question: what are specs of the motor you have used?
it's a 1.5 horse power. Good luck on the build, plans are available in the link in the description if you need them
4:12 use the sole of an old basketball shoe… free and “almost” as good as the block eraser.
Note: in the 80’s this worked great because all the soles were the same kinda rubber. Today Cheaper shoes work better because they are still the old material
Thanks for the tip
Nice video. I picked up a set of your plans. I see from your replies that you used a 1.5 HP pool motor. Do you know what the motor's RPM is? I'm hoping to find a decent used motor and don't want it under powered or under speed.
I'm sure I could play with pulley sizes if the speed is off, but I bought your plans so I don't have to reinvent the wheel, so to speak 🙂.
I honestly didn't do any math for the pulley sizes and motor RPMs. But what I did ended up working out great. I'd recommend making a few different sized pulleys and stacking them on both the motor and drum, kinda like a drill press so you can change where the belt engages to change the RPMs
Great video and straight forward design that appears to be an easy build. Just some trial and error on the circles inside the PVC.
Suggestion: Ya know those belt erasers can get pretty pricey at times and they really don't last that long. I used the soles of some old worn out tennis shoes and they work great. Give it a try and save a few bucks.
thanks for the tip
i've been using the same eraser, every day, for 16 years and there's still 1/2 of it left.
@@otter5555 That’s great!
Nice skills !🪵
Thanks!
Helpful video. Any potential issues with the pvc overheating and warping? I'm planning on using mine fairly heavily. Thinking about using MDF for the drum, but pvc looks a lot easier.
no issues for me so far, you need to do lighter passes, you can feel it as you're pushing it through if you're taking too heavy of passes
Hi, Use one from the training treadmill.
very very good.Please leave the engine information, such as power and rpm
thanks for watching the motor is 1.5HP idk what the rpm is
Nicely done.
Thanks!
Great looking diy machine! Are you still selling the plans?
Yep, here they are. keimpiece.com/collections/build-plans-digital-files/products/drum-sander-build-plans
Beautiful😍😍
Thanks!
Do you have a set of plans for sales yet?
Sorry for the delay, here is a link to the plans. keimpiece.com/collections/build-plans-digital-files/products/drum-sander-build-plans
I built a similar machine after looking at your project. My drum is made of steel and weighs 20 kilograms. The motor is a 2 horsepower, 1400 RPM motor. It spins smoothly and well. However, when I feed the workpiece into the machine, it gets thrown off. What could be the issue here can you help me ..thanks
What do you mean thrown off? Explain
@@KeimpieceCarpentry not kick back but it pulls off with force .. so forceful that it doesn't sand the wood but just pulls it off and throws of the workpiece
@@ApongLusang you're feeding it in the wrong direction.
Awesome video!
Thanks buddy boy!
Where did you get the motor?
It was from an old pool pump
Nice. But would like to know how to attach sandpaper.
Thanks for watching and commenting Scott. You wrap it around and tuck the corner in the back cut of pvc and super glue the end.
Now that you made it 24 inches wide, will you really use that width very often? great video for all of us DIY'ers!
Nope! I've only used this for small inlay work. I think the max width of those cutting boards was 8 inches. However, the reason I build it 24 inches wide is because my planer is 12 inches. So if I had to plane down two boards then glue them up, I wanted to be able to remove the glue line with the 24 inch wide sander. But yea, this thing is very big and takes up a lot of space. Definitely something to consider when building your own.
i just make one and i used a x jack from a car to set the thickness
that's a good idea
I like this.....
1.5hp has quite a bit of friction generating potential. How warm does the PVC get? Any concerns with it heating up to the point that it distorts?
Hey David, your concerns about friction and heating up are valid. There are a few variables with my specific use case that doesn't make it a problem. I have 80 grit paper on mine so it does a pretty good job at removing material. If I had 220 for example I think heat from friction would be a bigger issues as it would have more surface area contact and removing less material. More of a buffing effect. Second is I have to feed all my pieces in by hand, so I get a really good sense of the resistance, if it's too much I just back it off a bit. It's easy to find a sweet spot where the drum is removing enough material but it's not overloading the motor. But to you point, yes if you were to try and take too much material off in one pass for a long time, there would be heat generated. Would it be enough to warp the drum? Who knows, I hope I don't find out.
Hey! Nice. It's 2022, you still using it? Anything you'd add or change now?
I just used it the other day on an epoxy filled piece of walnut. Works just fine. I would def put the pulley on the inside of the frame to save space. I would put my adjustment knob on the other side. The way the motor spins I have to walk around to the back side to make an adjustment. I would add some dust collection, but other than that the thing only cost a few bucks so I store it in my shed and when i need it I set it up outside, use it, put it back in the shed.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry Sweet! As long as it works for the person using it, that's all that matters.
@@thenext9537 yep, if I'm doing a bunch of inlay cutting boards it really comes in handy. I don't do them enough to justify buying a 1500 dollar drum sander though
Great tool! What is a drum diameter?
I don't recall the exact measurements but there are detailed plans available if you'd like to build this. Check out the link in the description
I bought your plans for making this drum sander. What size motor should I get and how fast is it have to go
Thanks for watching and buying the plans. I used a 1.5 HP and it works fine. I didn't do any math for the pulleys to determine speed I just did what I thought would work and it works just fine. You can make multiple sized pulleys so you have the flexibility to speed up or slow down
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Great video. You're link for the bar is not working though.
Thanks for watching. I just click on the link and it worked for me, not sure why you're having trouble
@@KeimpieceCarpentry Yes, the product is there, but no price and no way to buy it.
@@tedalmeida idk what to tell you, it all works fine when I click it.
Curious about your CNC, which unit are you using in the video?
@@josephsmarz2078 it’s an xcarve
Excelente trabalho! Parabéns....ganhou uma inscrição.
Thanks
What is the thing you use for cleaning the sander? Thank you for sharing this nice video.
It's a sand paper eraser, check out the links I have int he description
@@KeimpieceCarpentry oh alright. Thank you for replying kindly.
@@3DOption Of course
For my usecase, I need a fairly small drum. Could I use one of those rubber drums? Abiut 2 or 3 inches wide.
which rubber drums are you talking about? You can still use the PVC drum like I did, just cut it to the length you need.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry drums I got with a spindle sander!
Sure why not @@MrKYT-gb8gs
I find it quite funny how you used your impact to drill and then your drill to drive. I like the pvc pipe idea but without a CNC its hard to make circles for the ID of pipe :/
Hey Sam, yea somethings it just depends which bits I have in which drill. MDF is really easy to work so I think you'll be just find tracing a circle template and rough cutting with a jig saw or bandsaw then sanding up to the line. The gorilla glue expands a lot so you're going to get a solid fit no matter if the circles aren't perfect. Then even if the axis is off a bit, sanding that PVC down while it's spinning while referencing your base board will take any error out. I agree, it seems kinda silly starting a video like this off with a cnc machine, but hey, I have a cnc so I'm going to use it. I still have this drum sander and use it for all inlay, epoxy, end grain boards, and it's working great, still have the original sand paper on there too. I've been tempting to buy a drum sander but this things works just find and I don't use it enough to justify the $2k
hello very good idea ... I would like to build one too .... Can you tell me where I can get the sandpaper that you installed thank you
Thanks for watching Marc. Here is the link to the sand paper I used amzn.to/2Te1AnL
Greetings from Canada! Very cool. You just saved me 1500 bucks! I'll be sure to tag you in my design and build video!
Hi sir is the cnc router also built by you
The CNC that you see is a X-Carve. 1000x1000mm made by Inventables. You're looking at around $2000-$2200 for that.
I am picking up a motor in about 2 hours. Did you post a link for the build plans for the bench?
Hey Brent, thanks for the interest. Here is a link to my website to get the plans. Let me know how you like them. keimpiece.com/collections/build-plans-digital-files/products/drum-sander-build-plans
Great video BTW. what kind of bit did you use in your router to make the v grove?
Mike, it was just a 90 degree V bit. Nothing fancy.
How well will this work for thickness very thin glued uo sections? Say 12 inch wide by about 1/4 "inch thick .... I wanna be able
To sand down to a 1/16th.....and I see there's no conveyer.... so I'm not sure if ita going to be useful to build this or not?...
it'll work fine for any thickness you just push it in and pull it out
How is it not flinging the piece across the room?!;
because the drum is spinning towards you so you force the piece through, if you ran it in from the other side it would shoot it across the room. Thanks for watching!
What about the price of the screws, motor, belt and wood?
Thanks for watching the video and the question. The motor I found for free from an old pool pump, it's been sitting around my garage for years waiting for me to figure out what to do with it. Anyone who does projects that require a drum sander is very likely an active wood worker and will likely have scrap 2x4s and a handful of screws laying around the shop. The pulley I think I had laying around from something else I can't recall. If you don't have those things laying around, then yes it'll cost more than 60 bucks.
@stringmankzk Great video! Straight into the business of the build, not showing unnecessary steps like EVERY board you cut, no big elaborate intro, no stupid jokes or trying to be quirky, the music was great and not overbearing, and most importantly, you know your audience. You seem to know that anybody who would want to build this already knows how to build stuff. There's nothing worse than watching a RUclips builder explaining EVERY detail of their build. This is my first visit to your channel and you've easily won me over...subscribed!
Thanks for the kind words! Yea, that was definitely what I was going for, short sweet and to the point. A lot of my early videos were like that. But as I got to bigger projects like the shed, gazebo, and treehouse, it was really hard to condense all that footage down. Let me know what you think of my other videos. @@Geolaw1
Awesome job. What are the stats on the motor...and where can I get one
Jason, the motor is 1 1/2 HP and it was reclaimed from an old pool pump. Its able to be wired at 240v or 120v. For this application I kept it at 120v and it works just fine. I didn't do any crazy math to figure out pulley ratios for rotations per min, I just went for it and it works great.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry awesome. I need a drum sander and I cannot justify the 800 plus price tag
@@KeimpieceCarpentry I think I can get a similar motor from a pool pump. Have you tried doing a very wide board through, which it looks like you may be able to get something like maybe ~18 - 20" through there? Just wondering how that motor will handle that kinda load.
Thanks for this vid. Think I'll gonna have fun trying this project :)
@@piptyson5512 FYI, a Jet 1632 uses a 1 1/2 HP motor too. It should be plenty as long as you’re not trying to remove too much material at once.
@@michaelkeymont501 Ok thanks.
1:55 Why is "Mai Ka Lani" written on the wood? Yes, I know it means "from the sky" in Hawaiian, but I'm curious how it got there.
It was the name of a boat I was commissioned to make a custom sign for. I must have just written it on a piece of scrap wood to ensure I got the spelling right.
Very nice work, thank you. It demonstrates practical thinking. Too bad about the impractical music, but great video otherwise.
Thanks Gus, the practical thinking is exactly what I was going for. Short sweet and to the point. I won't add music to my next one just for you.
What size motor?
1.5HP
Thanks!
@@KeimpieceCarpentry Ditto on the thanks.
Love the use of the 45° router bit to make the v belt pulley!!
Do you find 3/4 MDF sufficient for the pulley and what RPM was the driver motor and the driven drum sander in the end?
Thanks, yes the MDF is holding up just fine, no problems at all. I have no idea what the RPMs are, there was no science behind the pulley sizes I made, I just guessed, and it seems to work out perfectly for my use case.
how thick is the bar? I used half inch bar 1mm thick and it kinda flexes..
3/4 inch, no flex for me
@@KeimpieceCarpentry thanks, man! 3/4 is better. And you also have that thick PVC pipe... mine is half as thick.. cannot find thicker ones over here.. I tried with 1/2 inch threaded rod at first, it flexed and wobbled, then 1/2 steel bar 1mm thick, than it also flexed. I will try a 1 inch thick bar, to compensate for my thin pipe... see if it works. Thanks a lot!!!!
@@dutu000 let me know how it goes
@@dutu000 hi. What do you mean 1mm thick? If it’s 1/2” bar it’s over 12mm thick, no? I don’t understand the measurement you’re mentioning
@@gujit the "meat" of the pipe is 1mm, the thickness of the material (it is hollow). 1/2" diameter made from 1mm thick steel
How difficult has it been to make sure that the feed rate is correct? If you don't have consistent feed rate do you notice a difference?
I found that feed rate doesn't matter, I just pass the boards through manually, I can feel the resistance on the piece so I can adjust the depth manually so it's only taking off a little bit of material.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry My buddy and I have been making some cutting boards and we've never put the end grain ones through the planer but sanding sucks and I would like to build one of these. If it's truly a matter of feel, then I think we'll have no problem with it. It can't be any worse of a result than hand sanding. I have the pillow blocks, 2x4s, melamine for the base and was thinking of doing an inclined plane type thing for the height adjustment with a threaded rod to move it. I'll have to take video and share it when I make it.
@@jarodmorris611 Sounds like you got a solid plan. The hardest part is the drum. melamine will make a great base.
Are your plans a digital download? Great job.
Yes the plans are a digital download. They can be found here keimpiece.com/collections/build-plans-digital-files/products/drum-sander-build-plans
@@KeimpieceCarpentry Very nice. Thank you very much.
I never knew gorilla glue worked to stick metal to wood.
yea, it's an expanding pvc glue, works on most materials.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry I’ll look into it thanks man!
@@BeardnScars Good luck on the build! I recommend putting the pulley on the inside of the frame so it's not hanging out.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry for sure I saw you used a wide v for the bearing, was that just a micro v belt you used?
@@BeardnScars yea I had it laying around from another project.
Where did you get the lock collars?
Charles, the pillow block bearings I used have build it lock collars. Super easy to use, they have a small recessed allen screw. Here is the link for the ones I used. Pillow Block Bearings | amzn.to/2Uc5rSf
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THanks for watching
How many horsepower is that motor?
Nevermind....Lol...I read some of the comments below and fount that info!
It seems like no one on RUclips knows how to set music levels, would be much better with none
Thanks for watching. I'll keep that in mind for my next video. No music
great build
@@user-mechanicalmusic Thanks!
how big is the pvc tube
4 inch pvs. 24 inches wide
I just hate the loud background music!!! I also am not much of a heavy-metal band sound.
Thanks for watching and commenting. This feedback is important. Let me know what you think of my other videos
@@KeimpieceCarpentry I will investigate other videos. I am extremely judgemental of music.
@@lourias Sounds good
You did not show how elevation was attached ?
Start watching at 3:38. The bolt is what adjusts the height. The table top is just resting on the horizontal support show at 4:04. Hope this helps.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry Did you think about doing 2 bolts on each side, independent of each other? You're already measuring so you know what shims to use or when you're level. You'd be adjusting both bolts similar to what you do with the shims. Just a thought. Now I'll go out to my drum sander-less workshop :(
If I had money for CNC machine I would buy a drum sander. Lol. Help out the guy that doesn’t have mucho cash
you can just cut the circles out with a jig saw, or scroll saw, or band saw, or coping saw. There ya go, I just helped out the guy that doesn't have mucho cash. Thanks for watching the video.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry really????
@@kimratliff9001 yep, I ain't lying
@@kimratliff9001 you could use a milescraft circle guide kit with a palm router. It's like 40 bucks
@@maxwellbarnhart1375 I not wanting to build one. Was just watching video and made comment. Lol
3/4 bar $7 a foot. All I find is $16 a foot.
Did you try the links of the materials I provided in the video description?
I just watched a dude spin a drum on a lathe with a little stand made of twin screw clamps
what?
@@KeimpieceCarpentry he spun a pvc pipe with sand paper on a lathe and made a stand under it so he could push the wood through lol
@@markh983 oh gotcha, that makes more sense lol
I barely made it through this music bro
well thanks for watching anyways
Iai luat ciocanul lui Thor
Thanks for watching!
why not use only one wheel in each end and simple ,i think is same effective because that pvc pipe is hard and rigid ..im thinking in make my own drum sander but i dont want to put so many wheels inside the pipe ..yes im lazy .at this point i have all pieces cut over my work bench to finish i have just to put the drum parts togetter .is only 21 inches whide but my proyects right now are less whide than that .
I think you may be right, 2 wheels might work. 3 wheels would for sure be enough. I'm spoiled with my cnc so it was easy for me to make 5 wheels. Let me know how yours turns out with 2 wheels.
@@KeimpieceCarpentry yeah i will make it in my router table .easy job.thanks msn
@@juniorundersea unsupported pvc will flex. Flex is bad.
Putting flexing of the pipe aside, don't forget all the power is transmitted through the wheels with their glued connection to the axle being the weakest link. One at each end may fail under load without additional reinforcement.
@@dirtmover123 i made it all ready ,but i screwed the wheels to the axe glued the wheels prior to screw them and sanded to a smooth finish .is working good right now ,i made it again only with wheels glued and screwed the wheels on each tip ,and ready sanded super nice sanding machine ,fast and flat,smooth,.just have to sand with a fine papel with my orbital and the finiah is beautyful.
the annoying music...why?? Wearing a watch while working...why?? Toolbelt...why???...otherwise, it was great.
thanks for watching. I wear a watch to know the time and a tool belt holds tools. let me know if you have any other questions.
Parody account? wth you talking about?
Cut the music. Your as bad as the TV shows. Otherwise good video.
thanks for watching
Are those perfect circles to you? I don't think so, only God can make perfect things.
you're right my apologies, I should have said imperfect circles.
Apparently he makes perfect idiots.
Add the cost of a large CNC router, and then we're at $60 plus WHAT ????????????????????????? Mr CLICKBAIT ????????????
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You don't need a cnc to cut circles out of MDF. You could easily use a scroll saw, jig saw, band saw, coping saw, tablesaw jig. But yea I get your point. Such a shame to see you go. Thanks for watching and commenting though before leaving.
I will try to do it with Stodoys plans.
here are my plans. keimpiece.com/collections/build-plans-digital-files/products/drum-sander-build-plans