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Alexis Arguello Arguello vs Pryor 1 Diaz v McGregor Ken Norton Norton vs Ali BJ Penn Breakdowns please. Also nice work on this video. One of the better ones I've seen.
his left arm couldnt bend straight cuz it got torn apart from a hog at his farm he use to live when he was a kid and his parents couldnt afford medical treatment so it didnt fully heal so thats also very amazing but i didnt know he had poor vision
He said that by the time of the Thrilla in Manila he had lost almost all sight in his left eye. His right eye had started to swell up which was why his coach stopped the fight and Ali won. His eye had been damaged earlier in the 60s by a shard of metal while he was training on a faulty speed bag and he managed to pass medical tests by memorising the charts.
Eddie Futch: “I taught Joe to bob and weave so he wasn’t in rhythm. You see the speed bag? As long as it’s coming straight back, you can close your eyes all night long and hit it. But if it wobbles a little bit, then you have to hesitate to find where it’s coming from. I wanted Joe’s head to do that.” Joe’s exaggerated ducking also forced opponents to punch down at him, which in turn left them open. In addition, Eddie Futch knew that Joe’s deep ducking would draw out Muhammad Ali’s poorly thrown right uppercut, and this proved to be a valuable piece of strategy throughout the "Fight of the Century" (note the punch Ali is trying to throw when he gets dropped with the left hook). When it comes to the old axiom “kill the body and the head will die”, Joe Frazier might be the gold standard. He was brilliant at working the body and then suddenly shifting to the head once his opponent had lowered his guard to compensate.
I didnt notice about Ali's uppercut before, awesome strategy background for the fight... Love your content LeeWylie, hope you have a nice day , thnks for the comment, everyday we learn someting new. Sorry for my english.. Saludos desde Sonora, México ✌️
"Misfortune to be born in an era of greats" does not really apply when you are one of those greats. He knocked down Ali. he certainly ranks among the greats of his era.
@@cocoisthe1 Yup...my dad watched the fight back then and he was bias, he said he never really liked Ali too much he talked too much. But then him dodging the draft and saying the famous line "no vietcong ever called me nigger" made my father respect Ali from then on. He still love Smokin Joe, but knew Ali would lose and that actually made him cry but he understood how it was sometimes... Fast forward to the Sunshine Showdow, and Dad knew Foreman would beat Frazier. But said he didn't think it would be that bad or as fast as it was. He actually made a bet against joe and he won that bet...said it was the saddest money he ever earned. But then The Rumble in the Jungle came, he didn't even wanna bet on it like other fights he just wanted to watch. He felt this was Ali's redemption and he just wanted to live in the moment no worries, and he felt bad about betting against joe. He never bets on fights anymore...well not as many as he used too lol 😂
@Tattle Boad It's a boxing match You circle You jab to keep distance (although the reach difference here mighta made it no so good an idea) You juice it when you can get on the inside Then exit before the stonger foreman regains himself Foreman's style was tailor made to bet guys like Frazier. And Frazier is my favourite fighter, but he was dumb to be inflexible
Great breakdown of the legendary Joe Frazier. Frazier's pressure inside-style was specifically tailored to give the pure boxer problems. Unfortunately, it was also perfect for the brawler to destroy. I don't know of a more perfect example of these 3 main styles in any division in boxing's history. Frazier gave Ali problems, Ali gave Foreman problems, and Foreman gave Frazier problems.
Was Foreman really a brawler though? His entire style was built on controlling his opponent with his hands, usually parrying with the right hand and sticking the jab, or pulling their head in to land uppercuts and other power punches.
@pyroseed13 If he's not a brawler, then what do you consider him? A pressure inside fighter/ swarmer? A pure boxer? A boxer-puncher? There are advanced brawlers - George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Barbados Joe Walcott, Rubin Carter, Arturo Gatti - that use specific techniques as built in defenses or offense setups, but ultimately they: 1) Can't cut the ring effectively or at all 2) don't have a high ratio of punches evaded (whether through footwork, slips, bob-weave defense) 3) don't really take their heads off center & get hit with many punches 4) are very dangerous in the 1st 4-5 rounds, but quickly start to tire afterwards 5) tend to throw minimalistic power punches or combinations (and forget about setting traps / using throw away punches). Observe Ali-Foreman or Foreman-Lyle (2 brawler types). @Crank Sinatra Slugger can be interchangeable with brawler (an alternate for a sub-wrestling characteristic from the bare-knuckle days). Although personally, I think a slugger is a more rudimentary type of brawler. Think Ingemar Johansson vs. Sonny Liston.
I'd say Frazier is the most underrated heavyweight in the eyes of modern boxing fans. They dont understand how relentless his attack was. Non stop hooks, and head movement for 15 rounds. He wasn't very bulky, but trained to go 15 rounds. He never got tired. His left hook has as much power as anyone. He had great defense, and is the best inside fighting heavyweight. And not to mention, he would rather die, than lose. He will always keep coming at you. Applying pressure non stop. You're in for a tough fight no matter who you are against Frazier. Just incredible.
I must agree with you Frazier was very underrated. If you didn't take Frazier out in the early rounds when he was at his most vulnerable you were in trouble. He just kept coming... Relentlessly coming. That's hard to deal with... Then here comes the left hook. Frazier was a force, no question about it.
@@thepopulargirl1784 Yeah his low bobbing head movement made him a sucker for an uppercut, but Frazier never gave up. He was knocked down time and time again and even when his corner threw in the towel he seemed eager to keep fighting Foreman
This man actually was fortunate to be born in the era of the greatest because he fought many of them and proved himself to be such. He practically did everything with one eye, something many people forget or even don't know. The more you look Frazier, the more he's like Tyson and Marciano combined, but in any way he's unique just because the way he approached boxing is his own.
@@johnq8043 faulty speedbag led to a piece of metal flying into one of his eyes. additionally he grew up doing farmwork, and injured his left arm doing so. with no money for medical treatment he had to leave it to heal on its own, and his left arm became permanently bent at an angle. perhaps that led to his phenomenal hook?
Gotta love Joe Frazier, he's the working man's boxer. He used to do roadwork in the morning, work an eight hour job at a slaughterhouse and then hit the gym at night. Also he was undersized and had to do twice the work other boxers did with all that bobbing and weaving to get close enough. People don't talk about that much.
Let's not forget that he also had several physical ailments. He was nearly blind out of his right eye due to an accident with a faulty speed bag. His left arm couldn't bend straight due to a hog tearing it up and it was said that he was diabetic.
So true Joe is so underated as a boxer Ali had natural gifted talent "Physical supreme" Joe had pure heart "Physical Endeavour" He trained 100times more in boxing and life He was the son of a share cropper with an amputated arm He did grueling manual labour work at the age of 11, desired more than just working burnt out on a farm and steered himself to become a world champion whilst being partially blind in one eye and having a crooked left arm Truly inspirational character
Finally a video on one of the most undersold boxers of the golden era, the guy who really gave Ali a run for his money! been waiting for this vid for a long time, great job as always David!
Haha, Ali's banter and trash talk were always a cherry on top, but I think he went a little bit far with Smokin' Joe, a guy who helped him in his worst time. But still, that was the catalyst for one of boxing's greatest trilogies.
hamza atchany Seriously. I love his style. I bend and move at the waist in that weird rhythm during sparring when I want to freak my opponent out a bit. I can always sense their energy change when I start. It's so underused that a lot of people think I don't know what I'm doing at first, and then the first hook or uppercut lands and they buckle. The key is to do it all with conviction, the bending, the breathing, and the punching.
Love Frazier. One of the best inside fighters ever. Flawless bob and weaving with beautiful and smooth hooks and undercuts. With no fear at all, always moving forward
Dude joe was smokin had heart and all that _ but beautiful he was not! Not with jerky head first ducking and throwing over hands even as you half shelling! It is effect as fuck against boxers but that s about it!
Much as I revere Ali, i think Joe's victory in their first fight was the most incredible victory i've ever seen in heavyweight fights; thanks for the breakdown x
The best fight breakdown channel on RUclips by a mile. No psychobabble bullshit, just amazing insight that I'd never have known otherwise...with the footage to back it up. I love you man!
rider of the pale horse death himself The early mindsmash videos aren’t as bad, but I remember coming back and watching some recent ones. Mindsmash has become the art of saying nothing with as many words as possible.
My favorite boxer of all time, he didn't have the fancy footwork or the bravado of Ali but man did he have heart and power. For me, without Frazier, Ali couldn;'t have been considered great. He was the ultimate challenge, and now matter how many opponents Ali destroyed, he never knocked down Smokin' Joe. If Ali was the Butterfly that stung like a Bee, then Frazier was the Breaker of Bodies, once he got people to lower their guard, it was game over.
I do love the fact that Ali was never able to knock down Frazier. Shows his toughness. Just about anyone would get demolished by foreman if he lands a clean shot on you but Joe never stayed down.
You're very good at this David. I'm not that into boxing (I'd consider myself a 'casual' bx fan) but you make it so interesting i just can't click away
Excellent breakdown and great tribute to the tremendous skill of my #1 favourite fighter Smokin` Joe Frazier. This video almost brought a tear to my eye, because often he`s labeled as a mere left hooking brawler who gets hit too much just so he could land his left hook. Although the latter is somewhat true, he was also notoriously hard to hit cleanly, and many times he would parry, deflect and roll with the blows. His bobbing and weaving was unorthodox but made him even smaller as an already small heavyweight, and gave him tremendous leverage and timing with that left hook from hell.
An interesting aspect of how "Smokin" Joe would throw his hook was that he would plant the left heel in place, and not twist on the ball of his foot at all. I realised this through reading his book "Box Like The Pros" ( an excellent book, l must add). I began training my own left hook that way for many years, but always varying it with the other methods, and from all angles. At close range, I have consistently found "Smokin" Joe's method to be the most effective in every way, and tend to throw that way predominantly in close, short range exchanges. Another absolutely brilliant, insightful, and informative RUclips video brother. I am interested in reading your book(s), and plan to do so in the near future, also.
At 0:19 "....Frazier combined brilliant defense with......." I love Joe Frazier. And in many ways he does have brilliant defense. But not against Ali or Foreman. Joe was pretty much blind in one eye before his first fight with Muhammad. He was tagged in the face/head over 500 times in that one fight. And Muhammad's jab was not a love tap. But to Joe it was a tap. He couldn't out box Ali---no one could. But, if he could load up and land that big punch, which he did, he could win. And he did win. The punishment Joe took in those fights against Ali were only exceeded by the punishment Ali took from Joe. God bless Joe Frazier.
SI's Mark Kram talked about Frazier's "...mounting destructive rhythm, a percussive urgency." I think he was the one who said Joe fought like the word "boxing" sounds. Unique, relentless, powerful, hard to hit, and for me, the most exciting fighter to watch.
His shots to the body were nasty. You would constantly see his opponents drop their elbows the moment one of those punches would land. Just a persistent, hard hitting brawler with awesome head movement. One of my favorite fighters to watch, very unique style.
Some people say Smokin Joe, is underrated, but to people who actually know about Boxing, nothing could be further from the truth, as they know Frazier, was the real deal as a Boxer. The fights with Ali, were some of the most ferocious battles ever seen in a ring. Ali, knew Frazier, was his nemesis. That's why he talked about Joe Frazier, all the time, because he knew he had met his match in a ring, when Joe was in there with him. Ali and Frazier were two of the greatest fighters ever to grace a ring, in a time when their division had some of the best Heavyweight Boxers in the history of the sport. I'd say George Foreman, is more underrated than Frazier though, as George was just like Ali and Frazier, one very tough opponent, with a chin of granite! R.I. P Joe and Muhammad and thanks for the memories!
I agree with you mate but jesus slow down with the commas. I swear reading your sentence was like being in a traffic jam, with constant stops and goes.
I´ve watched box from a very small age with my father and just got boxing myself for the last year or so. Your videos have so much information and great analysis, I hope this channel goes on forever!
Great video. I love to see breakdown of Joe Frazier truly one of the best heavyweight of all time and a really underrated fighter. The 3 fight against Ali are all amazing and those bout really showed how great the two of them really were. Particularly the knockdown Frazier scored in the 15th round of their first fight showed how great they were: Frazier for dropping Ali with that devastating left hook and Ali for getting up after a devastating shot after 15 rounds of WAR!
I'm so glad to see this. I'm 66 and I grew up during the era of Ali-Frazier-Foreman. Joe was great. And it wasn't just his knockouts. Joe knew how to go to the body, too. After the Thrilla in Manila, Ali said that it felt his insides were on fire because of all the body blows he had taken from Joe. The didn't call him "Smokin' Joe" for nothing!
I've rarely seen such an excellent, concise video; with about the most superb commentary ever to go with it! Regardless of subject matter, RUclips videos are almost never as finely done as this one! (BTW: I will always think Frazier got a bad decision in #2!!!)
Joe Frazier is the fighter to whom I compare every other heavyweight. He was THE best for awhile. And for a short while, MAYBE he was the best ever. Those Ali-Frasier fights were so deep with fighting skills on display. It's extremely rare to see any other heavyweight fight as vigorously as did Frazier in the late, late rounds. His pace was incredible for a heavyweight.
greatest of all time, thank u for this, nothing out there like this, even with you breaking down his style and ferociousness people even professional boxers will have trouble understanding, i haven't even finished watching entirely and at this point i'am hoping you mention his unfortunate and willful eagerness to overcome the fact that people saw him as the underdog to ali and others inside and out the ring for many years. Develop and study his style will not make u a champ, it comes from within. His childhood was not great and that is why This is the number one fighter of the world.
Frazier also had a broken (unable to fully extend) left arm and was blind in one eye (lack of depth perception) for the majority of his career. Both of these factors contributed greatly to his crushing style. Great breakdown. Pls do one on Julian Jackson
The fact that the only two people to ever beat him were Muhammad Ali (and even Ali was never once able to knock him down for all three of their fights) and George foreman truly shows how much of a champ this guy was
@@YGDification Frazier was lucky that he wasn’t fighting a prime Ali Prime ali wouldn’t struggle from 1966-1970 beating him and slashing him with cut blood
A magnificent performer and devastating up close. Joe Frazier exemplifies skill and experience. He really showed that when facing a challenge, he can power through the fight
I think most fight fans aren't aware that for most of his career, Joe fought as a one eyed fighter. Forgot if it was the left or right, but I believe he fought most of his fights with a partially scratched or even torn cornea. When he lost the "Thrilla in Manilla" he was getting the better of Ali in every single round, and what happened in the 14th (?) was that Ali hit Joe in his bad eye, and suddenly Joe was blinded in that eye. He couldn't see any of Ali's punches at all!!. IF I'd been Frazier's cornerman, I'd have said "Look, you're ahead bySEVERAL ROUNDS. dance away and grab & hold for the next 3 mins & you'll be champ". But perhaps in the same way that Alis's corner stopped him from taking a beating from Holmes, perhaps Frazier's corner felt the same thing. That even 1 more round might cause Frazier irreversible damage. Hopefully some fight experts can clarify some of the points here, since I'm responding w. my comments strictly from memory of that time, and I don't claim to be as expert as many of you real fight aficionados & boxers. Btw, EXCELLENT FIGHT ANALYSIS OF SMOKIN' JOE'S STYLE!!!! I've love to see a breakdown of Hearns vs Hagler. I still think Hagler was robbed, but hey, that's just IMHO.
Ly Long, you're 100% right! Mea Culpa! I MEANT to say " Hagler vs. Leonard" !!!! Yes, I remember Hagler v Hearns. A shame that Tommy broke his hand in the first round, b.c. even for a moment, he really rocked Hagler. If I was Hearn's corner, I'd never have let Hearns continue against a ferocious puncher like Hagler with a broken hand! A one handed fighter CAN win, I've seen it, but not so early in a fight, and not against a KO artist like Hagler. But I still would love to know what those judges were thinking who scored Leonard v. Hagler for Leonard!! - Thanks for noting my mistake!
Ly Long: Hi, yes agreed. Nobody wanted to fight Hagler! I remember him fighting the Italian Champ at the time (sorry for forgetting his name so many decades later) some years earlier for the belt in Europe. However the European Champ held his own and came on a bit in the later rounds by throwing (to me) a lot of arm punches but though Hagler never knocked him down or staggered him, (not did he ever have Hagler in danger) Hagler should've won on pure Agression/ won rounds, yet I think it was a draw (which meant it stayed w. the belt holder). Another (early) case of Hagler being "robbed". But from what I recall, it took him forever to get a title shot simply because guys were ducking & dodging him everywhere - but in the ring!
I think another one of his attributes is that even when he did get hit, he just seemed to shrug it off. He was good at dodging, but when that failed, he was such a tank that he could just eat shots like crazy and keep going. Like in Thrilla in Manilla when they stopped the fight, and he wanted to keep going, even though he couldn't see and he was bleeding out of his mouth. I think that was part of his mindgame, he was like a zombie or a Borg drone, he just keeps moving forward, unshaken by anything you throw at him, even if you did hit him, he just kept bobbing forward relentlessly at you.
I’m A Fan Of Frazier And Tyson , And After Being An Observer Of Both Fighters I Can Say Without A Doubt That Frazier Definately Had Much More Bobbing And Weaving Than Tyson!
This is a fantastic breakdown of my favorite fighter since I was a 9 year old kid. Smokin Joe. Its so cool to learn of the "science and technique" of what we are watching. Smoke with his short arms and height had to get inside to fight and now actually learning of what he was doing or trying to do to get inside makes it even better. I already knew from reading about Joe how important it was for him to come in low and his head movement being key to his success but all your added info really opened my eyes to what they were seeing. And I been watching Joe's fights since he beat Quarry in their first fight Yeah I know, I'm old. Thanks a lot for the video, Modern Martial Artist.
Excellent work. Intelligent and comprehensiven breakdown of Joe Frazier -- one of the greats. There's a complex method to Frazier's left hook madness, and you capture it well. That Frazier left hook was one of the most brutal offensive weapons in boxing history.
For a guy on the shorter side of other heavyweights he fought like a giant. It’s crazy to see these guys fight. His head movement and bobbing is insane. The way he walked people down damn
@@fredwise4454 maybe more speed.not more power.listen to the Audio from Fraziers fights.you can hear him grunting as he hits his opponents.and the sound of leather Was louder than the Reaction of the crowd.
@@joshuatree5620 I understand that but if you watch interviews from other boxers or sparring partners of Tyson. This is specifically what they said "it is unfair that he can hit that hard". Respect to Frazier but if Ali had taken any of the punches that Frazier landed from Tyson boxing history would be different.
It is easier to climb Mt. Everest than it is to reach such skill level we see here. Just look how many people climb the mountain and how many Joe Fraziers we have.
Good video. I was at SkyBar on the Sunset Strip in LA; looked over in the corner at a table and saw this dude wearing a purple suit, matching fedora hat. Just a couple other dudes with him. I wasn’t sure but had a good idea... He got up with orders to leave and no one seem to see what I was seeing. I quickly came around in front of the man and enthusiastically said, “do you know your Joe Frazier?!” He gave me a huge smile, then Handed me a small business card of him knocking Ali down with his famous left hook. Never forget
@@tredd4997 He complitley lacked adaptability and never beat any elite boxer. He was very skilled in that one particular style but it did not work aganst poeple with iron will. Holyfiled straight up out brawled him.
@@nodo7575 He was the ELITE BOXER! Who else should he have beaten at his prime? Tyson only lost because his trainer died and Don King stepped in his life.
@@nodo7575 Lacked adaptability? Won the IBF from Bonecrusher Smith with his jab, defense and determination. Beat Tillis in the same fashion, when 'experts' said he can't go 12 rounds.
I've always said Smoke had the best ducking weaving side to side head movement and foot work I've ever seen, having a monster left hook never hurt him either, If smoke is hitting you with clean shots, you gonna give it up.
prime dempsey and tyson were on par. & both had more versatility and range then joe. not here to knock joe, hes an all time great w/ a heart of a lion, but he doesnt take those 2 guys out.
@@kelvinkloud I think that if Tyson can't take out Frazier out in the first few rounds, Frazier will take it. Not so sure about Frazier and Dempsey but it would be a bloodbath.
The Modern Martial Artist+ An excellent analysis of some of Smokin' Joe's moves (which showed me a few aspects I'd not picked up on before). However, his defensive vulnerabilities were devastatingly exposed by Foreman. I'd be very interested to see your breakdown of those two fights.
I actually went a bit into it on my Ali vs Foreman. Foreman pulled down Fraziers cross block to open him up and turned him when he ducked low. I think Lee Wylie has a video on it.
The Modern Martial Artist+ Many thanks for this, and I'll check both of them out. This is one of the great features of this medium: how experts like you and some of your colleagues, e.g. Reemus, share your knowledge with other students. Most grateful!
Indeed Frazier's defensive vulnerabilities were exposed by Forman. Joe Frazier would bend straight forwards almost every time with his forearms in front of his face, and this made him very susceptible to the best uppercutters.
I'm 81 years old and have seen almost all, if not all, of the greatest heavyweights since and including Joe Louis. IMO Larry Holmes must be included among the greatest heavyweights all time. Larry had it all. Big, fast, could bang, agile with great skill. It is sad he chose not to step away before his skills began to diminish. We know if you stay too long old Father Time will get you. "There has never been a horse who couldn't be rode nor any rider who couldn't be throwed." I am not and have never been a fan of Larry's, so I'm not biased towards him. I am trying to be totally objective. No doubt if he's not among the GOAT it won't take long to call the roll.
Joe Frazier is the boxer I think Makanuchi Ippo -- the main protagonist in "Hajime no ippo" is based on. "just keep pushing forward" is the theory in both of their boxing techniques. I don't think Ippo is purely Frazier, but the Mentality definitely is .
What a terrific and insightful analysis of Joe Frazier's style. You brought out points that I completely missed and which would be good for those learning boxing such as that cross arm defense as he attacked. Now I've got to watch all of your videos. Thanks for posting them.
Eventho i dont like him losing to Foreman and Ali im very glad he was around in this era. Competition forms fighters. Without that kind of competition he would arguably not have been as great as he was.
Good work. It would be interesting to understand why Foreman was able to utterly destroy Frazier. Why did Frazier struggle with Foreman's style of boxing at the peak of his boxing career? That is worth an analysis.
I don't know....maybe I missed all the hype about the greats that "eclipsed" Frazier: but whenever I thought of the boxing legends of that era he was always one of them.
Emanuel Augustus would be a great boxer to breakdown. Easily one of the most interesting to watch, and possibly one of the most underrated and robbed boxers.
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Breakdowns please. Also nice work on this video. One of the better ones I've seen.
The fact that Frazier was this good even with a damaged right shoulder and a vision impaired eye makes him even more amazing!
his left arm couldnt bend straight cuz it got torn apart from a hog at his farm he use to live when he was a kid and his parents couldnt afford medical treatment so it didnt fully heal so thats also very amazing but i didnt know he had poor vision
He said that by the time of the Thrilla in Manila he had lost almost all sight in his left eye. His right eye had started to swell up which was why his coach stopped the fight and Ali won.
His eye had been damaged earlier in the 60s by a shard of metal while he was training on a faulty speed bag and he managed to pass medical tests by memorising the charts.
fuck thats unreal
Yeah those older boxers were tough af, unfortunately a lot of them pushed themselves too far and ended up broken
He ain’t got shit on Harry Greb. Now go eat ya suppa.
Eddie Futch: “I taught Joe to bob and weave so he wasn’t in rhythm. You see the speed bag? As long as it’s coming straight back, you can close your eyes all night long and hit it. But if it wobbles a little bit, then you have to hesitate to find where it’s coming from. I wanted Joe’s head to do that.”
Joe’s exaggerated ducking also forced opponents to punch down at him, which in turn left them open. In addition, Eddie Futch knew that Joe’s deep ducking would draw out Muhammad Ali’s poorly thrown right uppercut, and this proved to be a valuable piece of strategy throughout the "Fight of the Century" (note the punch Ali is trying to throw when he gets dropped with the left hook).
When it comes to the old axiom “kill the body and the head will die”, Joe Frazier might be the gold standard. He was brilliant at working the body and then suddenly shifting to the head once his opponent had lowered his guard to compensate.
I didnt notice about Ali's uppercut before, awesome strategy background for the fight...
Love your content LeeWylie, hope you have a nice day , thnks for the comment, everyday we learn someting new.
Sorry for my english.. Saludos desde Sonora, México ✌️
Fraziers style was very reminiscent of Henry Armstrong
Lee Wylie Boxing some more from you man! Please!
More joe!
Thanks
"Misfortune to be born in an era of greats" does not really apply when you are one of those greats.
He knocked down Ali. he certainly ranks among the greats of his era.
Frazier beat Ali.
@@Magneticlaw well it was actually sonny banks but I see what you mean
@@Magneticlaw Frazier was 3rd to knock down Ali. And first to beat him
@@cocoisthe1 Yup...my dad watched the fight back then and he was bias, he said he never really liked Ali too much he talked too much. But then him dodging the draft and saying the famous line "no vietcong ever called me nigger" made my father respect Ali from then on. He still love Smokin Joe, but knew Ali would lose and that actually made him cry but he understood how it was sometimes... Fast forward to the Sunshine Showdow, and Dad knew Foreman would beat Frazier. But said he didn't think it would be that bad or as fast as it was. He actually made a bet against joe and he won that bet...said it was the saddest money he ever earned. But then The Rumble in the Jungle came, he didn't even wanna bet on it like other fights he just wanted to watch. He felt this was Ali's redemption and he just wanted to live in the moment no worries, and he felt bad about betting against joe. He never bets on fights anymore...well not as many as he used too lol 😂
@@cocoisthe1 Ali never knocked him down and their second fight was a clinch fest.
THIS is the man who should have a statue at the art museum that tourists wait in line to take pictures with
One of the things I respect about him is that he never backs down. He keeps going forward. Smoking Joe is a beast, RIP.
He should have circled and backed away against Foreman
@Tattle Boad
Caesar didn't get at whooped as Joe did against George.
If he did, he would have retreated, restrategized and countered.
@Tattle Boad
It's not timidity
@Tattle Boad
It's a boxing match
You circle
You jab to keep distance (although the reach difference here mighta made it no so good an idea)
You juice it when you can get on the inside
Then exit before the stonger foreman regains himself
Foreman's style was tailor made to bet guys like Frazier. And Frazier is my favourite fighter, but he was dumb to be inflexible
He did the whole fight in the rematch against Foreman
Great breakdown of the legendary Joe Frazier.
Frazier's pressure inside-style was specifically tailored to give the pure boxer problems. Unfortunately, it was also perfect for the brawler to destroy. I don't know of a more perfect example of these 3 main styles in any division in boxing's history. Frazier gave Ali problems, Ali gave Foreman problems, and Foreman gave Frazier problems.
Was Foreman really a brawler though? His entire style was built on controlling his opponent with his hands, usually parrying with the right hand and sticking the jab, or pulling their head in to land uppercuts and other power punches.
TainoMantis Slugger is the word you're looking for. Not brawler.
@pyroseed13 If he's not a brawler, then what do you consider him? A pressure inside fighter/ swarmer? A pure boxer? A boxer-puncher?
There are advanced brawlers - George Foreman, Sonny Liston, Barbados Joe Walcott, Rubin Carter, Arturo Gatti - that use specific techniques as built in defenses or offense setups, but ultimately they:
1) Can't cut the ring effectively or at all 2) don't have a high ratio of punches evaded (whether through footwork, slips, bob-weave defense) 3) don't really take their heads off center & get hit with many punches 4) are very dangerous in the 1st 4-5 rounds, but quickly start to tire afterwards 5) tend to throw minimalistic power punches or combinations (and forget about setting traps / using throw away punches). Observe Ali-Foreman or Foreman-Lyle (2 brawler types).
@Crank Sinatra Slugger can be interchangeable with brawler (an alternate for a sub-wrestling characteristic from the bare-knuckle days). Although personally, I think a slugger is a more rudimentary type of brawler. Think Ingemar Johansson vs. Sonny Liston.
this is why i think a prime foreman would have destroyed a prime mike tyson
TainoMantis brother u couldn’t have said it better, it’s like the dog wolf an hyaena!
I'd say Frazier is the most underrated heavyweight in the eyes of modern boxing fans. They dont understand how relentless his attack was. Non stop hooks, and head movement for 15 rounds. He wasn't very bulky, but trained to go 15 rounds. He never got tired. His left hook has as much power as anyone. He had great defense, and is the best inside fighting heavyweight. And not to mention, he would rather die, than lose. He will always keep coming at you. Applying pressure non stop. You're in for a tough fight no matter who you are against Frazier. Just incredible.
Yeah Frazier was definitely underrated.
I must agree with you Frazier was very underrated. If you didn't take Frazier out in the early rounds when he was at his most vulnerable you were in trouble. He just kept coming... Relentlessly coming. That's hard to deal with... Then here comes the left hook. Frazier was a force, no question about it.
I mean it wasn't that tough for Foreman, but Frazier is still one of the all time greats.
@@thepopulargirl1784 Yeah his low bobbing head movement made him a sucker for an uppercut, but Frazier never gave up. He was knocked down time and time again and even when his corner threw in the towel he seemed eager to keep fighting Foreman
@@thepopulargirl1784nobody was tough for prime foreman apart from Muhammad Ali and Jimmy Young. Foreman in his 20s was an absolute monster
This man actually was fortunate to be born in the era of the greatest because he fought many of them and proved himself to be such. He practically did everything with one eye, something many people forget or even don't know.
The more you look Frazier, the more he's like Tyson and Marciano combined, but in any way he's unique just because the way he approached boxing is his own.
@@johnq8043 I think it had to do with a faulty speedbag
@@johnq8043 faulty speedbag led to a piece of metal flying into one of his eyes. additionally he grew up doing farmwork, and injured his left arm doing so. with no money for medical treatment he had to leave it to heal on its own, and his left arm became permanently bent at an angle. perhaps that led to his phenomenal hook?
Frazier is better fighting on the inside than Tyson
Tyson copied ducking left and right whilst moving in, then punching out of a crouch.
Add to this tyson would go sideways when on the outside and punch up.
Gotta love Joe Frazier, he's the working man's boxer. He used to do roadwork in the morning, work an eight hour job at a slaughterhouse and then hit the gym at night.
Also he was undersized and had to do twice the work other boxers did with all that bobbing and weaving to get close enough. People don't talk about that much.
Let's not forget that he also had several physical ailments. He was nearly blind out of his right eye due to an accident with a faulty speed bag. His left arm couldn't bend straight due to a hog tearing it up and it was said that he was diabetic.
@@irvinmorales1409 what?
the Rocky movies were inspired by Joe, Ali, and some great boxers back in the day.
So true Joe is so underated as a boxer
Ali had natural gifted talent
"Physical supreme"
Joe had pure heart
"Physical Endeavour"
He trained 100times more in boxing and life
He was the son of a share cropper with an amputated arm
He did grueling manual labour work at the age of 11, desired more than just working burnt out on a farm and steered himself to become a world champion whilst being partially blind in one eye and having a crooked left arm
Truly inspirational character
They need to make a joe frasier movie
Finally a video on one of the most undersold boxers of the golden era, the guy who really gave Ali a run for his money! been waiting for this vid for a long time, great job as always David!
but he's not that faaaaaaaaast - ali voice-
Haha, Ali's banter and trash talk were always a cherry on top, but I think he went a little bit far with Smokin' Joe, a guy who helped him in his worst time. But still, that was the catalyst for one of boxing's greatest trilogies.
hamza atchany Seriously. I love his style. I bend and move at the waist in that weird rhythm during sparring when I want to freak my opponent out a bit. I can always sense their energy change when I start. It's so underused that a lot of people think I don't know what I'm doing at first, and then the first hook or uppercut lands and they buckle. The key is to do it all with conviction, the bending, the breathing, and the punching.
hamza atchany he would beat Wilder by murder
Ali is my hero but smoking joe is as Ali said the Greated fightier ever next to Ali.
Love Frazier. One of the best inside fighters ever. Flawless bob and weaving with beautiful and smooth hooks and undercuts. With no fear at all, always moving forward
Jonathan GOSH !! I WROTE ALMOST THE SAME COMMENT AS YOU //but DID NT EVEN SEE IT BEFORE TO DO SO !!! Joe was a nice human being !!
Dude joe was smokin had heart and all that _ but beautiful he was not! Not with jerky head first ducking and throwing over hands even as you half shelling! It is effect as fuck against boxers but that s about it!
@@warrendoris9669 if a technique is effective for a fighter then it's beautiful to me, if it isn't broke don't fix it.
Much as I revere Ali, i think Joe's victory in their first fight was the most incredible victory i've ever seen in heavyweight fights; thanks for the breakdown x
The best fight breakdown channel on RUclips by a mile. No psychobabble bullshit, just amazing insight that I'd never have known otherwise...with the footage to back it up. I love you man!
Yep, when he talks about actual fighting he's good but he talks so much shit I can't watch his stuff anymore
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LeeWylie is another great RUclips channel.
@@TheCamorra2011 the psychological part is the most important thing in fighting.
Shade throw at mindsmash i hate that channel
rider of the pale horse death himself The early mindsmash videos aren’t as bad, but I remember coming back and watching some recent ones. Mindsmash has become the art of saying nothing with as many words as possible.
I absolutely love Smokin' Joe Frazier!!! He was such a great champion, but he was also such a great guy!!! He will forever be in my top 5
Me too!I'm a big fan of Joe Frezier! Respect!Rest in peace bro !
Man you can break down anything, any fight... MMA or boxing, and with such elegance... Good work Sr..
My favorite boxer of all time, he didn't have the fancy footwork or the bravado of Ali but man did he have heart and power. For me, without Frazier, Ali couldn;'t have been considered great. He was the ultimate challenge, and now matter how many opponents Ali destroyed, he never knocked down Smokin' Joe. If Ali was the Butterfly that stung like a Bee, then Frazier was the Breaker of Bodies, once he got people to lower their guard, it was game over.
I do love the fact that Ali was never able to knock down Frazier. Shows his toughness. Just about anyone would get demolished by foreman if he lands a clean shot on you but Joe never stayed down.
One of the most intimidating boxing styles ever. Just controlled chaos coming straight at you with nonstop movement. Smokin’ Joe was a machine!
You're very good at this David. I'm not that into boxing (I'd consider myself a 'casual' bx fan) but you make it so interesting i just can't click away
Excellent breakdown and great tribute to the tremendous skill of my #1 favourite fighter Smokin` Joe Frazier. This video almost brought a tear to my eye, because often he`s labeled as a mere left hooking brawler who gets hit too much just so he could land his left hook. Although the latter is somewhat true, he was also notoriously hard to hit cleanly, and many times he would parry, deflect and roll with the blows. His bobbing and weaving was unorthodox but made him even smaller as an already small heavyweight, and gave him tremendous leverage and timing with that left hook from hell.
You nailed it.
Karate is the fiction of not getting hit. Boxing is the reality of not getting hit cleanly. Frazier is a role model...a legend.
This man could kill a horse with his left hook 😱
Why punch a 🐎 horse, they have no arms
@@lloydkline6946 horses got a mean back kick though. They could do MMA for sure
Ksi?
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My favorite heavy weight... He had the best left hook & the best head movement in my opinion.. Plus he was a great person.. Respectfully
His building is for& again Should it be saved this time?
The best analysis I've ever seen on Joe's style and moves.....when you watch these old matches you once again realize how good he was. RIP Joe.
All hail Joe Frazier. A great fighter, a great champion, and a great and dignified man.
An interesting aspect of how "Smokin" Joe would throw his hook was that he would plant the left heel in place, and not twist on the ball of his foot at all. I realised this through reading his book "Box Like The Pros" ( an excellent book, l must add). I began training my own left hook that way for many years, but always varying it with the other methods, and from all angles. At close range, I have consistently found "Smokin" Joe's method to be the most effective in every way, and tend to throw that way predominantly in close, short range exchanges.
Another absolutely brilliant, insightful, and informative RUclips video brother.
I am interested in reading your book(s), and plan to do so in the near future, also.
At 0:19 "....Frazier combined brilliant defense with......." I love Joe Frazier. And in many ways he does have brilliant defense. But not against Ali or Foreman. Joe was pretty much blind in one eye before his first fight with Muhammad. He was tagged in the face/head over 500 times in that one fight. And Muhammad's jab was not a love tap.
But to Joe it was a tap. He couldn't out box Ali---no one could. But, if he could load up and land that big punch, which he did, he could win. And he did win.
The punishment Joe took in those fights against Ali were only exceeded by the punishment Ali took from Joe.
God bless Joe Frazier.
Smokin' Joe Frazier is definitely in my top 5 favorite fighters of all time, I just love his style. He was a hell of a man RIP Smokin' Joe!!!
SI's Mark Kram talked about Frazier's "...mounting destructive rhythm, a percussive urgency." I think he was the one who said Joe fought like the word "boxing" sounds. Unique, relentless, powerful, hard to hit, and for me, the most exciting fighter to watch.
His shots to the body were nasty. You would constantly see his opponents drop their elbows the moment one of those punches would land. Just a persistent, hard hitting brawler with awesome head movement. One of my favorite fighters to watch, very unique style.
I would never have the balls to just walk into punches with the confidence Frazier had.
Some people say Smokin Joe, is underrated, but to people who actually know about Boxing, nothing could be further from the truth, as they know Frazier, was the real deal as a Boxer. The fights with Ali, were some of the most ferocious battles ever seen in a ring. Ali, knew Frazier, was his nemesis. That's why he talked about Joe Frazier, all the time, because he knew he had met his match in a ring, when Joe was in there with him. Ali and Frazier were two of the greatest fighters ever to grace a ring, in a time when their division had some of the best Heavyweight Boxers in the history of the sport. I'd say George Foreman, is more underrated than Frazier though, as George was just like Ali and Frazier, one very tough opponent, with a chin of granite! R.I. P Joe and Muhammad and thanks for the memories!
I agree with you mate but jesus slow down with the commas. I swear reading your sentence was like being in a traffic jam, with constant stops and goes.
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I´ve watched box from a very small age with my father and just got boxing myself for the last year or so. Your videos have so much information and great analysis, I hope this channel goes on forever!
Great video. I love to see breakdown of Joe Frazier truly one of the best heavyweight of all time and a really underrated fighter. The 3 fight against Ali are all amazing and those bout really showed how great the two of them really were. Particularly the knockdown Frazier scored in the 15th round of their first fight showed how great they were: Frazier for dropping Ali with that devastating left hook and Ali for getting up after a devastating shot after 15 rounds of WAR!
lefty gang, that lefthook on Ali definitely my favorite punch of all time. incredible
Lovely... Respects to Smoking Joe Frazier - My all time favorite.
Joe Fraziers arm reach was 73" compared to Ali's *78"*
Bernie 2020 but point of correction, Ali's reach was 78"
Ken Norton’s was 80
Joe was a one off! No heavyweight ever bobbed and weaved like him, then would launch that devastating left hook, like he'd been saving it for years !
I'm so glad to see this. I'm 66 and I grew up during the era of Ali-Frazier-Foreman. Joe was great. And it wasn't just his knockouts. Joe knew how to go to the body, too. After the Thrilla in Manila, Ali said that it felt his insides were on fire because of all the body blows he had taken from Joe. The didn't call him "Smokin' Joe" for nothing!
I've rarely seen such an excellent, concise video; with about the most superb commentary ever to go with it!
Regardless of subject matter, RUclips videos are almost never as finely done as this one! (BTW: I will always think Frazier got a bad decision in #2!!!)
Not a boxing guy, but this channel is just too good! Great lessons in every video.
Joe Frazier is the fighter to whom I compare every other heavyweight. He was THE best for awhile. And for a short while, MAYBE he was the best ever. Those Ali-Frasier fights were so deep with fighting skills on display. It's extremely rare to see any other heavyweight fight as vigorously as did Frazier in the late, late rounds. His pace was incredible for a heavyweight.
joe was so so so good.
so underrated.
one unique fighter. can't find one like him.
greatest of all time, thank u for this, nothing out there like this, even with you breaking down his style and ferociousness people even professional boxers will have trouble understanding, i haven't even finished watching entirely and at this point i'am hoping you mention his unfortunate and willful eagerness to overcome the fact that people saw him as the underdog to ali and others inside and out the ring for many years. Develop and study his style will not make u a champ, it comes from within. His childhood was not great and that is why This is the number one fighter of the world.
Been eagerly anticipating this-- never miss one of your uploads. Quality as always.
Frazier also had a broken (unable to fully extend) left arm and was blind in one eye (lack of depth perception) for the majority of his career. Both of these factors contributed greatly to his crushing style. Great breakdown. Pls do one on Julian Jackson
The fact that the only two people to ever beat him were Muhammad Ali (and even Ali was never once able to knock him down for all three of their fights) and George foreman truly shows how much of a champ this guy was
Now I see where Mike Tyson took his head movements followed by a devastating hook
Great fighter. Great channel! Love watching Frazier. In many ways he represented the best of boxing.
He beat Muhammad Ali.
Enough said.😎
@The Book Of ƬЯXPXP doesn't take anything away about the first win though
@@mineungkim4599 Frezier amoung the few people that beat Ali! Neither Foreman or other heavy boxers couldn't do that !
@@YGDification the rest of alis defeat where because of parkison but for frazier it was definite
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Oh no, that took a lot of Frazier, & Frazier immediately done after the fotc, he was in the hospital for months
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Frazier was lucky that he wasn’t fighting a prime Ali
Prime ali wouldn’t struggle from 1966-1970 beating him and slashing him with cut blood
A magnificent performer and devastating up close. Joe Frazier exemplifies skill and experience. He really showed that when facing a challenge, he can power through the fight
Thank you, I've been waiting for a joe fraizer video 👌
Love Frazier, one of the best fighters ever, a true warrior.
There's no other word for it except warrior.
I think most fight fans aren't aware that for most of his career, Joe fought as a one eyed fighter. Forgot if it was the left or right, but I believe he fought most of his fights with a partially scratched or even torn cornea. When he lost the "Thrilla in Manilla" he was getting the better of Ali in every single round, and what happened in the 14th (?) was that Ali hit Joe in his bad eye, and suddenly Joe was blinded in that eye. He couldn't see any of Ali's punches at all!!. IF I'd been Frazier's cornerman, I'd have said "Look, you're ahead bySEVERAL ROUNDS. dance away and grab & hold for the next 3 mins & you'll be champ". But perhaps in the same way that Alis's corner stopped him from taking a beating from Holmes, perhaps Frazier's corner felt the same thing. That even 1 more round might cause Frazier irreversible damage. Hopefully some fight experts can clarify some of the points here, since I'm responding w. my comments strictly from memory of that time, and I don't claim to be as expert as many of you real fight aficionados & boxers. Btw, EXCELLENT FIGHT ANALYSIS OF SMOKIN' JOE'S STYLE!!!! I've love to see a breakdown of Hearns vs Hagler. I still think Hagler was robbed, but hey, that's just IMHO.
Ly Long, you're 100% right! Mea Culpa! I MEANT to say " Hagler vs. Leonard" !!!! Yes, I remember Hagler v Hearns. A shame that Tommy broke his hand in the first round, b.c. even for a moment, he really rocked Hagler. If I was Hearn's corner, I'd never have let Hearns continue against a ferocious puncher like Hagler with a broken hand! A one handed fighter CAN win, I've seen it, but not so early in a fight, and not against a KO artist like Hagler. But I still would love to know what those judges were thinking who scored Leonard v. Hagler for Leonard!! - Thanks for noting my mistake!
Ly Long: Hi, yes agreed. Nobody wanted to fight Hagler! I remember him fighting the Italian Champ at the time (sorry for forgetting his name so many decades later) some years earlier for the belt in Europe. However the European Champ held his own and came on a bit in the later rounds by throwing (to me) a lot of arm punches but though Hagler never knocked him down or staggered him, (not did he ever have Hagler in danger) Hagler should've won on pure Agression/ won rounds, yet I think it was a draw (which meant it stayed w. the belt holder). Another (early) case of Hagler being "robbed". But from what I recall, it took him forever to get a title shot simply because guys were ducking & dodging him everywhere - but in the ring!
I think another one of his attributes is that even when he did get hit, he just seemed to shrug it off. He was good at dodging, but when that failed, he was such a tank that he could just eat shots like crazy and keep going. Like in Thrilla in Manilla when they stopped the fight, and he wanted to keep going, even though he couldn't see and he was bleeding out of his mouth. I think that was part of his mindgame, he was like a zombie or a Borg drone, he just keeps moving forward, unshaken by anything you throw at him, even if you did hit him, he just kept bobbing forward relentlessly at you.
I’m A Fan Of Frazier And Tyson , And After Being An Observer Of Both Fighters I Can Say Without A Doubt That Frazier Definately Had Much More Bobbing And Weaving Than Tyson!
Frazier had more consistent and more elusive head movement and is harder to hit than Tyson ever was.
Tyson became a victim of his own success and lost his discipline as time went on. Early on he was much harder to hit.
Why Do You Capitalize Every Sinlge Word You Write, OP?
Makes it extremely annoying to read.
Frazier had more heart and was relentless
Y’all joking lol
This is a fantastic breakdown of my favorite fighter since I was a 9 year old kid. Smokin Joe. Its so cool to learn of the "science and technique" of what we are watching. Smoke with his short arms and height had to get inside to fight and now actually learning of what he was doing or trying to do to get inside makes it even better. I already knew from reading about Joe how important it was for him to come in low and his head movement being key to his success but all your added info really opened my eyes to what they were seeing. And I been watching Joe's fights since he beat Quarry in their first fight Yeah I know, I'm old. Thanks a lot for the video, Modern Martial Artist.
Excellent work. Intelligent and comprehensiven breakdown of Joe Frazier -- one of the greats. There's a complex method to Frazier's left hook madness, and you capture it well. That Frazier left hook was one of the most brutal offensive weapons in boxing history.
Smokin Joe is one of my favorites of all time.
For a guy on the shorter side of other heavyweights he fought like a giant. It’s crazy to see these guys fight. His head movement and bobbing is insane. The way he walked people down damn
The famous left hook that flooded Ali in the 15th round was just picture perfect. Textbook stuff.
This is your best video so far. Two thumbs up. Can't wait to see the rest of the Frazier related break downs.
Frazier was like a more technical Mike Tyson. Love seiing his fights. One of my favorites ever. So underrated. Such a legend.
They're both technical
Mike was incredibly technical, you have to watch him fight in slow motion (or watch a good film study, this channel has one)...
I think Tyson was a modernized Frazier with more speed and power.
@@fredwise4454 maybe more speed.not more power.listen to the Audio from Fraziers fights.you can hear him grunting as he hits his opponents.and the sound of leather Was louder than the Reaction of the crowd.
@@joshuatree5620 I understand that but if you watch interviews from other boxers or sparring partners of Tyson. This is specifically what they said "it is unfair that he can hit that hard". Respect to Frazier but if Ali had taken any of the punches that Frazier landed from Tyson boxing history would be different.
Smokin Joe was a phenomenal example of the whole being greater than the sum of it's parts.
It is easier to climb Mt. Everest than it is to reach such skill level we see here. Just look how many people climb the mountain and how many Joe Fraziers we have.
You’re not lying‼️
Good video.
I was at SkyBar on the Sunset Strip in LA; looked over in the corner at a table and saw this dude wearing a purple suit, matching fedora hat. Just a couple other dudes with him. I wasn’t sure but had a good idea...
He got up with orders to leave and no one seem to see what I was seeing.
I quickly came around in front of the man and enthusiastically said, “do you know your Joe Frazier?!”
He gave me a huge smile, then Handed me a small business card of him knocking Ali down with his famous left hook. Never forget
This is really good... I would love to see your analysis and breakdown of Kostya Tszyu.
It's great to have someone like you making these fight videos ever since Wilson Kayden disappeared off the face of the earth
RIP, Smoke. 😭 Great fighter and a better man.
Your by far my favourite breakdown channel, this stuff is awesome
I think Joe Frazier is becoming my favourite boxer.
Joe Frazier is my favorite boxer.
I love your work, MMA. Keep it up!
D'amoto clearly took this to the extreme with Tyson.
@Maafa 1619 Tyson was one of the most skilled fighters to ever exist
@@tredd4997 He complitley lacked adaptability and never beat any elite boxer. He was very skilled in that one particular style but it did not work aganst poeple with iron will. Holyfiled straight up out brawled him.
@@nodo7575 He was the ELITE BOXER! Who else should he have beaten at his prime? Tyson only lost because his trainer died and Don King stepped in his life.
@@nodo7575 Lacked adaptability? Won the IBF from Bonecrusher Smith with his jab, defense and determination. Beat Tillis in the same fashion, when 'experts' said he can't go 12 rounds.
I think Frazier has aged very well. As people really study these fights our appreciation for Smokin Joe only grows.
I've always said Smoke had the best ducking weaving side to side head movement and foot work I've ever seen, having a monster left hook never hurt him either, If smoke is hitting you with clean shots, you gonna give it up.
prime dempsey and tyson were on par. & both had more versatility and range then joe. not here to knock joe, hes an all time great w/ a heart of a lion, but he doesnt take those 2 guys out.
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I think that if Tyson can't take out Frazier out in the first few rounds, Frazier will take it. Not so sure about Frazier and Dempsey but it would be a bloodbath.
Love Joe Frazier, he’s absolutely mesmerizing that first night against Ali in Madison Square Garden. Great job man, awesome video.
I love the one sequence where Ali is actually landing bombs and Joe just kept walking forward. I'll try and pin point the round and time.
Probably the best technique I ever seen in a boxer. that head dodgin is crazy, making Ali throw air punches
Nobody made Ali look like he was shadow boxing like Smokin Joe did.
Brilliant Production. Brilliant Narration. Brilliant Analysis
The Modern Martial Artist+ An excellent analysis of some of Smokin' Joe's moves (which showed me a few aspects I'd not picked up on before). However, his defensive vulnerabilities were devastatingly exposed by Foreman. I'd be very interested to see your breakdown of those two fights.
I actually went a bit into it on my Ali vs Foreman. Foreman pulled down Fraziers cross block to open him up and turned him when he ducked low. I think Lee Wylie has a video on it.
The Modern Martial Artist+ Many thanks for this, and I'll check both of them out. This is one of the great features of this medium: how experts like you and some of your colleagues, e.g. Reemus, share your knowledge with other students. Most grateful!
Indeed Frazier's defensive vulnerabilities were exposed by Forman. Joe Frazier would bend straight forwards almost every time with his forearms in front of his face, and this made him very susceptible to the best uppercutters.
My dude, this is one of the best channels on RUclips. Love these style breakdowns! Thanks so much for this. Also loved your Tommy Hitman Hearns vid!
A suggestion for a boxer to look at would be the highly adaptable Larry Holmes, the Easton Assassin
I'm 81 years old and have seen almost all, if not all, of the greatest heavyweights since and including Joe Louis. IMO Larry Holmes must be included among the greatest heavyweights all time. Larry had it all. Big, fast, could bang, agile with great skill. It is sad he chose not to step away before his skills began to diminish. We know if you stay too long old Father Time will get you. "There has never been a horse who couldn't be rode nor any rider who couldn't be throwed." I am not and have never been a fan of Larry's, so I'm not biased towards him. I am trying to be totally objective. No doubt if he's not among the GOAT it won't take long to call the roll.
Joe Frazier is the boxer I think Makanuchi Ippo -- the main protagonist in "Hajime no ippo" is based on. "just keep pushing forward" is the theory in both of their boxing techniques. I don't think Ippo is purely Frazier, but the Mentality definitely is .
The very few that could time Joe’s movement are the few that will stay up in the annals of boxing history
Very Nicely Done! My Favorite part is at 2:30 when you point out how Frazier changes head slots while looking for angles to attack
That hook had HEAT behind it. Smokin' indeed.
Never has a punch intimidated me,until i saw smokin' Joe's Left Hook.my god that is Scary.
Best boxing channel hands down
AMAZING BREAKDOWN!!!
LONG LIVE SMOKIN' JOE FRAIZER!!!
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What a terrific and insightful analysis of Joe Frazier's style. You brought out points that I completely missed and which would be good for those learning boxing such as that cross arm defense as he attacked. Now I've got to watch all of your videos. Thanks for posting them.
The greatest of them all!
There's a reason George Foreman said he was terrified of Smoke.
A new find RESPECT for Frazier!! Would love to have seen him and Tyson
Frazier is taking the slight edge over Tyson, Tyson immediately gasses out more than Frazier
Your Breakdown analysis and narrative delivery with that dope instrumental all blends perfectly... Salute and blessings from New Zealand... 💯🤴🏾☮🙌🏾
Joe had to have a great left hook. His right eye was legally blind.
Eventho i dont like him losing to Foreman and Ali im very glad he was around in this era.
Competition forms fighters. Without that kind of competition he would arguably not have been as great as he was.
Good work. It would be interesting to understand why Foreman was able to utterly destroy Frazier. Why did Frazier struggle with Foreman's style of boxing at the peak of his boxing career? That is worth an analysis.
Foreman always pushed him away with both arms. He didn't allow him to come near.
Hey man you make beautiful, insightful, knowledgeable videos. Keep doing what you're doing. I greatly appreciate you're break downs.
I never tire of seeing Frazier knock the so called “Greatest” on his butt.
Yeah but you've gotta admit he was the greatest ?
keith symons nope
Far from it
The Omega Effect lol then who is???
Kellz Sugar Ray Robinson but that’s just my opinion though
Adam Vagus you need to get out more lol
Best breakdown analyses and descriptions I've come across.
You were meant to say one of the most smartest
I don't know....maybe I missed all the hype about the greats that "eclipsed" Frazier: but whenever I thought of the boxing legends of that era he was always one of them.
Emanuel Augustus would be a great boxer to breakdown. Easily one of the most interesting to watch, and possibly one of the most underrated and robbed boxers.