A tip for night blade and POB. You should set your elusive effect in PoB to roughly half your max elusive effect. To get an idea of your average damage.
Would the new 3.21 Pathfinder be good for this build? A lot of it would be the same, but PF will give the ele pen and phys as chaos with the new notable as well as really good flask sustain.
Frostblades is one of my favorite skills, I wish it got more love to promote some creativity/show potential viability. Edit: Or I just wish the skill was good lmfao
return of frostblade... much needed. I still feel GGG needs to fine-tune the skill before I dip into it again. ( hitting a monst 50,000 times and it not dead doesn't feel great). but this is my old experience, and not with a 3.20 approach. Back in the day I wanted skill to be good without such high investment :D
If you hadn't gone so hard on resists on your boots, I'd have suggested using Replica Voidwalker for mapping. I've used them on my Frost Blades Trickster (Swapping to Legacy of Fury for basically only afliction-heavy Lycia at this point) and I have died once in a week of mapping with them. 99 & 30% currently. I also crafted +1 Frenzy, +2 Strike Warlord/Hunter gloves, and with +2 Strikes (no other source) and the +1 Chain from boots I'm more than happy with off-screen clearing.
I was playing a raider (my 1st one) and was dying often, until i saw graceful assault and the mastery 5% of evasion as extra armour, damn that was a lot of tankiness
GGG would be stupid to not keep Sanctum core going forward. The reception has been the most positive for a league in ages and they clearly put a LOT of work into it.
is it worth to try something similar, but with trickster? (I finally drop finished no hit run and searching for build with it. Also I have +1 frenzy and +1 power relics)
I love builds like this everything just explodes and dies lol. Question i currently am using flame dash on a arc build. How do i get flame dash to never lose charges? Since they're only 3 charges i constantly have to wait for the cooldown and in those oh shit moments it can be very useful to not have to wait to gain a charge.
Flame dash is a cool down based skill. You need to build around shield charge, leap slam, whirling blades, or lightning warp if you want a non cool down skill.
Mageblood is almost always the best in slot for most builds. I just avoid using it because it's such a crutch that it hides build creativity (and gates builds behind a mirror cost item)
I used it on my last original sin build, it's decent but since we mostly want cold damage to activate heatshiver (and AP bypasses that) and I'm leech capped it's not a ton of value.
Actually maybe its not posible to make this build budget but could You make wideo with convert some build to cold->chaos damage I would love to build one like 50/50 % cold/chaos one but lack of knowledge stops me so far. Thx for Your work.
As fun as these builds have been, I do hope that Original Sin is removed next league. I have no problem with big chase items, but items like original sin seemingly have no reason not to be incorporated into high-end elemental builds, with nearly no downside when worked around. It's been very fun to see the insane numbers people have gotten on builds combining freeze chest, Heatshiver and Original Sin for one league, but i fear that if this item isn't removed or changed/nerfed it may be a race to 1 ring, 1 helmet, and 1 chest being on nearly any build that can fit the combo, which I believe is bad for build diversity, and weakens non-elemental melee builds even further.
This is a reference to Plato’s Theory of Forms, ie: the idealized form of something. He’s not talking about the colloquial usage of “platonic” as in non-sexual. 😄
20 mil frost blades for 10 div? With what, 1k life and 0 defenses like a No-hit sanctum build? I find this reallllly hard to believe as FB is notoriously good at clear while being notoriously bad at bossing until having a mirror + to put into it.
"Do you want to marry me?" sub: "Whoo wait, is this the Original Sin Ring?" - "No..." sub: Naa than not, sorry!😂 really nice build, my only problem is to get currency to build up some of them setups. Either, your vids, are very strong, very good explained. grettings from Germany.
Honestly quite the opposite. Original sin is very ssf viable unless you're super unlucky. The builds making it specifically for it are quite easy to put together and it's just about patience and preparation.
@@subtractem There are only 11 original sins on the SSF ladder and 237 magebloods as of right now. I mean feel free to make whatever guides you want, I'm just sharing my perspective as a SSF player and I know you have a lot of SSF audience.
@@subtractem very ssf viable? Streamers are lovely creatures. You all think that we have hundreds of hours to push im single league. You see IT as viable not regular player
@@jedrusnowak3317 SSF was created as an aspirational mode for folks that want a super hard version of the game. SSF-viable to me is just whether it's realistic to farm for the items and not whether you're a casual gamer or not.
@@subtractem yeah its realistic for streamers with Poe as full time job. Sometimes level of being deranged is huge. Just Like saying droppimg mageblood from mobs is viable (if u Play 12h a day)
@@subtractem ok here we go: boneshatter is the worst designed skill for bossing. You need to ramp to do damage, you kill yourself with too many stacks, and against Ubers you don't even get to ramp that much because you have to constantly move. It has no strike range added to it and the best weapon for it is an axe (shortest range). I honestly think you should try it. There's a big difference between looking at a skill mechanically and looking at a skill "hurdurr softcore shit character 200m dps". If you want to go that route: any skill does that. You should look at people practicing gauntlet and playing hardcore (Alkaizer is a great example) to see what actual good characters have to do to play a shit skill like that. It's a great mapper, worst bossing melee skill possibly. I don't know how you don't see that considering how smart and good at the game you are
My goal as a new player is to one day think of 18 Divine orbs for Tempering Orbs as a "tiny little thing".
A tip for night blade and POB. You should set your elusive effect in PoB to roughly half your max elusive effect. To get an idea of your average damage.
"Platonic ideal"
I'm already a fan but casually comparing your build concept to the Forms would have instantly sold me.
lol I love the character attacking animations at 10,000 MPH
Would the new 3.21 Pathfinder be good for this build? A lot of it would be the same, but PF will give the ele pen and phys as chaos with the new notable as well as really good flask sustain.
i like it when ppl actually see how fun frost blades it is to play :D fb always been underrated advarat
Frostblades is one of my favorite skills, I wish it got more love to promote some creativity/show potential viability.
Edit: Or I just wish the skill was good lmfao
It's so fun!
@@subtractem hey, can u tell me what gem links u have on the gloves? u did not showed it in the clip...i would really like to know...thank you !
return of frostblade... much needed. I still feel GGG needs to fine-tune the skill before I dip into it again. ( hitting a monst 50,000 times and it not dead doesn't feel great). but this is my old experience, and not with a 3.20 approach. Back in the day I wanted skill to be good without such high investment :D
Actually frost blades is nerfed this league (lost fight for survival jewel), only is good cause of other items like heatshiver etc.
Love it man great character . Keep experimenting with that ring
If you hadn't gone so hard on resists on your boots, I'd have suggested using Replica Voidwalker for mapping. I've used them on my Frost Blades Trickster (Swapping to Legacy of Fury for basically only afliction-heavy Lycia at this point) and I have died once in a week of mapping with them. 99 & 30% currently.
I also crafted +1 Frenzy, +2 Strike Warlord/Hunter gloves, and with +2 Strikes (no other source) and the +1 Chain from boots I'm more than happy with off-screen clearing.
Hmm interesting option. I don’t see how it’s much better. Phasing might be good. I’ve been using Fury boots for too long. Maybe I’ll try VW’s :)
Heatshiver- check
Original Sin- check
Hundreds of divines- check
Moving along….
Thank you for answering my question loll can't afford that
I was playing a raider (my 1st one) and was dying often, until i saw graceful assault and the mastery 5% of evasion as extra armour, damn that was a lot of tankiness
There are soooo many builds that are amazing with just that ring added.
GGG would be stupid to not keep Sanctum core going forward. The reception has been the most positive for a league in ages and they clearly put a LOT of work into it.
No no. League is soo good cause archnemesis is out. Mechanic alone isn't amazing. It gives only currency and takes long.
@@jedrusnowak3317 I find it really fun and challenging. Plus it felt SO GOOD to finally kill Lycia!
Totems, self casting curses, gem swaps, melee..… Hnm , pass. Cool build idea though!
What a loser comment 😂
is it worth to try something similar, but with trickster? (I finally drop finished no hit run and searching for build with it. Also I have +1 frenzy and +1 power relics)
Cool build, also hello chat!
I love builds like this everything just explodes and dies lol. Question i currently am using flame dash on a arc build. How do i get flame dash to never lose charges? Since they're only 3 charges i constantly have to wait for the cooldown and in those oh shit moments it can be very useful to not have to wait to gain a charge.
Flame dash is a cool down based skill. You need to build around shield charge, leap slam, whirling blades, or lightning warp if you want a non cool down skill.
There's also cooldown recovery stat you can get on belts and shaper boots. as well as Quality shenanigans
would mageblood be good with this build or the stygian and flask overall better? Thanks will try it just need this little advice.
Mageblood is almost always the best in slot for most builds. I just avoid using it because it's such a crutch that it hides build creativity (and gates builds behind a mirror cost item)
What about doing this exact build but replace a ring with nimis and frostblades with wild strike?
Did you consider atziri's promise flask? even nerfed maybe better than some attack speed
I used it on my last original sin build, it's decent but since we mostly want cold damage to activate heatshiver (and AP bypasses that) and I'm leech capped it's not a ton of value.
Actually maybe its not posible to make this build budget but could You make wideo with convert some build to cold->chaos damage I would love to build one like 50/50 % cold/chaos one but lack of knowledge stops me so far.
Thx for Your work.
As fun as these builds have been, I do hope that Original Sin is removed next league. I have no problem with big chase items, but items like original sin seemingly have no reason not to be incorporated into high-end elemental builds, with nearly no downside when worked around. It's been very fun to see the insane numbers people have gotten on builds combining freeze chest, Heatshiver and Original Sin for one league, but i fear that if this item isn't removed or changed/nerfed it may be a race to 1 ring, 1 helmet, and 1 chest being on nearly any build that can fit the combo, which I believe is bad for build diversity, and weakens non-elemental melee builds even further.
This game Has zero diversity. U either Play same 5 builds or u do Simple Red maps
Well there's a reason why toxic rain is pretty much top 3 starter every damn league :)
@@jedrusnowak3317 hahahaha
no
@@jedrusnowak3317 I've played over 10 different builds this league. All different, only 1 of them really 'meta'. And still things I want to try.
bad take.
What do you think about using wind dancer?
it could be decent for this setup since there's so much evasion, might get one shot a bit more though
wtf is that mageblood with an abyssal socket?!?!?!? nevermind
are u sure for the chaos pen on the claw ? since the ring say enemy chaos res "IS" 0, can u still pen ?
Yes
@@subtractem same wording as Inquisitor and Inquisitor can't pen. I don't think this is accurate.
@@SilviteRamirez nope. Different wording doesn't say can't pen. :)
@@subtractem ring stonks then
if enemies chaos resistance "is" 0. wouldn't that mean that penetration is irrelevant?
Nope. Penetration is a function after resists are altered. It's separate.
@@subtractem thanks man. Grateful for the knowledge.
At this point I believe that almost all skills work with those three items.
any physical spell attack that allows full cold conversion yeah, with balance of terror it's pretty busted!
how difficult is it to turn normal frost blades raider into this?
is there anyway to freeze with chaos damage？cause i am playing flicker strike and while i am bossing i cant maintain my frenzy charge
Expeditions end
@@subtractem is it the only one that can freeze with chaos damage? I'm now running out of frenzy or cant freeze....
@@justin20006643 it's the only way yes
the phrase "the platonic ideal" implies the existence of a non-platonic ideal build... you good Subtractem?
This is a reference to Plato’s Theory of Forms, ie: the idealized form of something. He’s not talking about the colloquial usage of “platonic” as in non-sexual. 😄
@@Theta40 ofc, but wheres the fun in that lol
@@AricNeo True enough, sex is more fun than Ancient Greek philosophy. 😂
Do u think this build will do well with Champion?
I hope they don’t nerf heatshiver too much. Maybe make it a tier 1 or 0 unique
how does frostblade still chill/freeze if all is converted to chaos?
Expeditions end
How the fk u have 6 auras
hey can u show this build for 3.21 please?
Power charge stacker... frenzy charge stacker... i look forward to the upcoming endurance charge stacker
I have a relic for it...
You can do a 20 mil Fb Trikster with 10 div and clear everything.
yep that's the conservative version, this is the all out fun version :)
20 mil frost blades for 10 div? With what, 1k life and 0 defenses like a No-hit sanctum build? I find this reallllly hard to believe as FB is notoriously good at clear while being notoriously bad at bossing until having a mirror + to put into it.
@@strombolijones4255 well kinda... 3.4k life 90% Evasion and suppression capt. I followed " Behind Eyes Gaming" guide.
cool build i wanna try
you think 200 div are enough?
original sin + expeditions end...plus another 200 div yeah, assuming those two pieces already you should be good
which herald effect is that
celestial
@@subtractem thanks mate!
Are you sure your character is doing alright? Seems to be spazzing out a bit at the start.
Zdps on single target Uber bosses let's go
What?
@@subtractem do a uber boss with frost blades
"Do you want to marry me?" sub: "Whoo wait, is this the Original Sin Ring?" - "No..." sub: Naa than not, sorry!😂 really nice build, my only problem is to get currency to build up some of them setups. Either, your vids, are very strong, very good explained. grettings from Germany.
MTX ??
28 min and still 360p wtf yt
i get this item is great, but as a SSF player i can't use any of these guides. Might as well just be a mageblookd/headhunter guide
Honestly quite the opposite. Original sin is very ssf viable unless you're super unlucky. The builds making it specifically for it are quite easy to put together and it's just about patience and preparation.
@@subtractem There are only 11 original sins on the SSF ladder and 237 magebloods as of right now. I mean feel free to make whatever guides you want, I'm just sharing my perspective as a SSF player and I know you have a lot of SSF audience.
@@subtractem very ssf viable? Streamers are lovely creatures. You all think that we have hundreds of hours to push im single league. You see IT as viable not regular player
@@jedrusnowak3317 SSF was created as an aspirational mode for folks that want a super hard version of the game. SSF-viable to me is just whether it's realistic to farm for the items and not whether you're a casual gamer or not.
@@subtractem yeah its realistic for streamers with Poe as full time job. Sometimes level of being deranged is huge. Just Like saying droppimg mageblood from mobs is viable (if u Play 12h a day)
Need for speed Raider Build Guide. YES PLS
i cannot find a stygian look like him on the market
definitely a scam build that i cannot follow
bro where ur beautiful face at
first pog
🤝
honestly ide rather see a hatered nurf then original sin be removed from the game
Thinking Boneshatter is better for bossing than frostblades is just insane. I think you need to play it or just read the gem
Lol? Is this satire?
@@subtractem have you ? Remember to watch gauntlet coming up
@@vanillaflavoured5735 lolllllllll
@@subtractem ok here we go: boneshatter is the worst designed skill for bossing. You need to ramp to do damage, you kill yourself with too many stacks, and against Ubers you don't even get to ramp that much because you have to constantly move. It has no strike range added to it and the best weapon for it is an axe (shortest range). I honestly think you should try it. There's a big difference between looking at a skill mechanically and looking at a skill "hurdurr softcore shit character 200m dps". If you want to go that route: any skill does that. You should look at people practicing gauntlet and playing hardcore (Alkaizer is a great example) to see what actual good characters have to do to play a shit skill like that. It's a great mapper, worst bossing melee skill possibly. I don't know how you don't see that considering how smart and good at the game you are
Just say you haven't played boneshatter in a scenario where dying actually matters and read the gem, it's that easy
Will never understand, how people manage to accumulate 500+ or 1000 divines.
I made like 120 in total this league - but maybe i am just too stupid lol