'People obsessed with English medium schools, must be eroded slowly':NCERT SocialScience Panel head

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @rgg1642
    @rgg1642 19 дней назад +18

    Something for ordinary people: never fall into the trap of not teaching your children english. Remember politicians children are going to english-medium pvt schools. Their children speak fluent english. They go abroad to study, which is in english. Dont fall for the trap that your children need to learn in indian languages.

    • @samwienska1703
      @samwienska1703 17 дней назад +1

      Exactly. Even the China has started learning English. English language knowledge is the door for the Science & technology.

    • @samwienska1703
      @samwienska1703 17 дней назад

      English language knowledge is the door for the Science & technology.

  • @murthymsr.295
    @murthymsr.295 20 дней назад +6

    School learning should start in ones mother tongue.While preparing textbooks in regional languages,words related to science,maths,commerce etc should be in internationally known,familiar English words like speed,acceleration,mass,wight,cheque book etc.

  • @AbhishekSingh-ip3xe
    @AbhishekSingh-ip3xe 20 дней назад +17

    What a huge irony in this when both the interviewer and the interviewee are using English as a medium of communication here! I mean imagine if none of them knew English, would this conversation even be possible?! Good luck employing tranlators for conducting a simple interview. All the elite private schools and colleges in the country have their medium of instruction as English but the underprivileged who have to study in state funded colleges and government primary and secondary schools should be taught in vernacular. As if the class divide wasn't bad enough on the basis of English. Honestly, at this point in time it sounds like a conspiracy to me by some people to restrict access to a language which is essentially a global access tool at this point in time!

    • @AmalTan
      @AmalTan 20 дней назад +3

      He is talking about education in mother tongue and english. What is the issue with it?

    • @user-qx9bt9tr6t
      @user-qx9bt9tr6t 20 дней назад +2

      Learning English is fine and does help. The interviewer and interviewee are a result of being in a flawed system which has resulted in this. Both of them could be conversant in the same language which is not English (foreign like French or native like Tamil) and the conversation would still go on. So it seems your logic is a result of the same flawed system you and I are a part of (both of us are conversing in English) but you seem to not get the issue. Also, these people are talking about reducing the extra emphasis on English and giving more or less equal priority to all languages and not about removing English completely so your reasoning is standing on false grounds.

    • @joyid
      @joyid 20 дней назад

      I mean the people wants more federalism, so this is the next step. By the way both opposition and ruling parties are on the same page regarding teaching in vernacular language.

    • @kaushikchoudhary1512
      @kaushikchoudhary1512 18 дней назад +1

      While kids of politicians and big industrial families don't even find India's education worth it, that's why they send their kids to universities in Western countries. Language should provide greater opportunities of sticking with english means better opportunities in life, I don't see the point of education in vernacular language . No sane individual with sacrifice their future for the sake of preserving local language.

  • @rajasekhar7951
    @rajasekhar7951 19 дней назад +5

    Through english i was able access research on preventive healthcare and my life is better. I read literature and finance books like think and grow rich which changed and transformed my life. If you argue that these can be translated i ask how much can you translate! What about fresh research? What about obscure articles of value?

    • @purushottam4728
      @purushottam4728 11 дней назад

      Don't you understand the ideology and long term plan of rss , brother? They just want to reproduce bhakts who would not be able to learn fresh, scientific and modern knowledge and also crippled to question anything. They just want brainwashed and mindless followers who don't question anything.

  • @xxyz2023
    @xxyz2023 20 дней назад +26

    Thinking in different languages is our strength, not weakness. Does this govt feel that every Indian must read science in Hindi? Must we be like Chinese who struggle to communicate in English? Pak, bangladesh, etc have an old habit of revisionist history, similar to rss changing Indian history books. True leaders know how to bring people together without force/rules, but bhakts of a nation can bring down any great country. Organised corruption inside the govt dept don't fear laws, due to connections with ruling Party, instead they thrive in rigid systems.
    Policy cannot be a response to crisis. It has to anticipate and avert it. Russia does not suffer from the intellectual brain-drain because of Soviets funding into education. India's population, now the world’s biggest and growing; while education budget has been falling past 10 years. One in two Indian youth are not yet readily employable, but do well once they go abroad. The transition away from agricultural employment has witnessed a reversal (since 2019) since private sector is not investing or hiring due to low demand (as people have no money due to high gst taxes & note ban).
    Private sector doesn't want to spend to train & they don't want to pay more for those who come fully trained. The unemployment rate for graduates in India is 29 percent. Ai is displacing in low-end services. The increased enthusiasm for work, among the urban population, has not translated into increased opportunities. The high level of youth unemployment does not bode well for the future of India. Our India's trade deficit is with 9 out of the 10 nations we import. Govt backed industrialist like Company 'A' have created fewer jobs, instead transferred money to shell companies abroad.
    India's highest youth population is being wasted, unlike China's economic growth story. China became developed when they had the highest youth population. Jobs are driven by middle-class private sector, particularly through small & medium-sized businesses. Middle-class entrepreneurs play a crucial role in not only jobs but also in wages growth, which boosts per capita income of a nation; these directly depend on Union govt's economic policies & increased funding to states for education. 26,100 govt schools have closed in UP as per Indian Govt's United District Information System for Education UDISE.
    We can't compare japan's education system to germany's, but we can compare a nation's education, every decade. In Feb, union govt had reduced funding for education. Education budget
    2024 : 2.5%
    2022 : 2.64%
    2021 : 2.64%
    2020 : 3%
    2019 : 3.4%
    2018 : 3.48%
    2017 : 3.7%
    2016 : 3.65%
    2015 : 3.88%
    2014 : 3.8%
    2013 : 4.77%
    2012 : 4.97%
    2011 : 5%
    2010 : 4.5%

    • @AmalTan
      @AmalTan 20 дней назад +1

      And thats why NEP 2020 promotes mother tongue alongwith English.

    • @nv9991
      @nv9991 20 дней назад +2

      Education is a state subject. State budgets matter more than central budgets. If the doctor in Coimbatore is receiving 1000 patients every day. What % are English speaking and what % are Tamil speaking? Is the Tamilnadu government spending money to create doctors for English-speaking patients in the UK and Canada? How many Tamil language medical colleges DMK/AIDMK government started?

    • @VijaiVpandian
      @VijaiVpandian 20 дней назад +2

      India being a multilingual country. Importance should be given to mother tongue or native language and English. Scandinavian countries education system is a best example.

    • @SubhoPlays
      @SubhoPlays 20 дней назад

      Education is in concurrent list.​@@nv9991

    • @xxyz2023
      @xxyz2023 20 дней назад +1

      @@nv9991 Education is state subject, so why is UP's govt schools failing? UP gets Rs. 4 from central govt. in return for every Rs. 1 it gives in taxes. Whereas, for every Rs. 1, Tamil Nadu gets 30 paisa, Kerala gets back 20 paisa, Karnataka gets 13 paisa back. Despite this Kerala & Karnataka have far more educated youth through govt schools than UP, why?

  • @karthikk2896
    @karthikk2896 20 дней назад +4

    In Karnataka also we have worst Education Minister we have seen so far named Madhu Bangrappa

  • @brijeshjoshi123
    @brijeshjoshi123 20 дней назад +4

    Embracing multilingualism in school education and bilingualism in higher education has the potential to profoundly impact students learning outcomes and confidence. By acknowledging and valuing diverse languages, students' cultural identities are reinforced, fostering a sense of belonging and empowerment. As students learn in their mother tongue and additional languages, their understanding deepens, and academic achievement improves. This linguistic inclusivity enhances their confidence, creativity, and critical thinking skills, ultimately leading to a more effective and enjoyable learning experience. The reflection of this enhanced learning will be evident in their improved academic performance, increased participation, and better retention rates, ultimately shaping a more informed, adaptable, and global-minded generation.

    • @user-qx9bt9tr6t
      @user-qx9bt9tr6t 20 дней назад +1

      I would say it is good but English is definitely given more emphasis than other langauges (even foreign, like French). That reveals some problem that needs to be investigated. General multilingualism (even in colleges, not just schools) is definitely good.

    • @joyid
      @joyid 20 дней назад +1

      Ai comment 😂😂 it seems learning english in school didn't help you much that you had to take help from Chat GPT.

  • @rajeevtt2982
    @rajeevtt2982 18 дней назад +4

    The only good thing about Indian Education is its emphasis on English .. teaching Hindi Regional Languages is an absolute waste

    • @chiragpatel1994
      @chiragpatel1994 18 дней назад

      This is exactly how a colonised mind think.

    • @lokeshduvvuru8705
      @lokeshduvvuru8705 16 дней назад

      Nothing wrong in learning english. But considering english superior to indian languages is inferiority complex

    • @utkarshswaroop_0306
      @utkarshswaroop_0306 11 дней назад

      Absolutely
      English is more important to survive than any other language

  • @user-qx9bt9tr6t
    @user-qx9bt9tr6t 20 дней назад +7

    Learning more languages improves the brain, whatever be the languages. Also, English at the moment is important as it does help in jobs and also helps in bridging communication gaps (for the first reason, more people learn English than Hindi hence) between people with different tongues. However, English's importance is overstated and that is our fault. If we had more native industries and companies hiring and if our colleges were better and taught in Indian languages then Indian languages would gain more power. South Korea and Japan have the same and thus they do not speak much of any foreign language. Nothing that cannot be corrected if we focus on creation of companies and improving our colleges. Italy is also trying to do away with English officially. Just learning a new language is a good thing. Another thing that the government can and should push is for laptops to have a vernacular symbol option on the keyboard which is also the norm in China, South Korea and Japan so people using a laptop can also practice their languages more often through everyday experience. Another major issue to be corrected is that none of the languages taught in any kind of schools here (including English) are taught properly. Not many languages can be taught to a child unless they want to. Hence, it is important to give them the choice to select two main languages that they want to learn and those should be taught with great emphasis. Also a third language should also be taught as per a choice which will be taught lightly. On top of that, if the child wants to learn any more number of languages, then he or she should be free to choose what and how many other languages he or she would like to learn.

  • @lawyermahaprasad
    @lawyermahaprasad 20 дней назад +9

    India did not go bankrupt because we had an English speaking population .

    • @AmalTan
      @AmalTan 20 дней назад +8

      Good point. That microscopic minority working in IT sector did help India build forex reserves after 1991. But can it help us to get rich?
      India can get rich only when we can start innovating. That will happen by developing analytical thinking is vast majority of Indians. Teaching in mother tongue helps in that. Ofcourse English should be learnt too.

    • @user-qx9bt9tr6t
      @user-qx9bt9tr6t 20 дней назад +5

      Any evidence to support this random statement?

    • @sujesh4684
      @sujesh4684 20 дней назад

      ​@@user-qx9bt9tr6ttry asking this question in any local language and see if you get an answer.

    • @nv9991
      @nv9991 20 дней назад +5

      Shrilanka always had a higher % English-speaking population than India? Did English save it from bankruptcy?

  • @nv9991
    @nv9991 20 дней назад +6

    We need a large number of Medical and engineering schools in Tamil, Hindi, Marathi, and Bengla languages also. An automobile engineer needs to talk to his 2W driver customers in Telugu. Why should he be forced to learn automobile engineering in English when his customers (2wheel drivers) are not English-speaking? Some students may prefer to learn maths science and medicine in their own language. They have the fundamental right to get entire education in their mother tongue. Someone needs to file a PIL to demand such service from the state & central governments.

    • @xxyz2023
      @xxyz2023 20 дней назад

      @@nv9991 because how will it be possible practically to check the exam papers or teach maths at universities, in regional languages, in such a vast but poor nation India? We are too big & too poor. Many issues plague India like basic facilities/infrastructure & primary school education & child hunger.

    • @zetaforever4953
      @zetaforever4953 20 дней назад +4

      Almost 90% of scientific research all around the world is published in English. So if you want to learn automobile engineering in Tamil or Marathi, you'll need to translate all the latest research into that language, then translate your own findings back to english. Not only will it make foreign collaborations hard, it'll even make it hard to collaborate between different states in India. How will an automobile engineer who has learned everything in Tamil ever get a job in Mumbai or Bangalore? The nation will simply break apart, because there will be no mobility between the people of different states, so after a point there wouldn't really be any reason to stay together. Each state of India will be isolated from other states and from the world at large.

    • @dheerajpimoli9539
      @dheerajpimoli9539 20 дней назад

      @@zetaforever4953 there are many countries who are working this way and are in better condition for example france ,germany and japan. this example is mostly given by countries who were colonies of other country and they don't want to put effort in developing education in their own language. they can form political party on language issue but when hard effort are required they are not willing to that.

    • @nv9991
      @nv9991 20 дней назад

      @@zetaforever4953 How does an illegal migrant Bangladeshi laborer who now works in Kerla or Bengal manage his life? Around 10-20000 Panjabis work on Italian & Portugal farms. Around 15000 Ajarbaijanis work in remote European sheep farms. Many millions of Tamilians migrated to Maharashtra & Banglore in the first 4 decades. How do all these guys manage in the local language? If such low-skill individuals can manage in a new language environment, why can't an Automobile engineer from Kannada have that confidence in Bengal? Max 1 year of hard work is needed to learn a local language? 2) India is one country because it speaks one language called English or because it has English-speaking engineers? You really belive we are one nation because of English language education? hahahaha. British-induced slavery is still intact in some minds.

    • @joyid
      @joyid 20 дней назад

      ​@@zetaforever4953learn kannada ok

  • @oyehoyemon2286
    @oyehoyemon2286 19 дней назад +2

    Great interview and insights. Kudos to Print and Fareeha for covering this and to Michel for explaining the reasoning behind this.
    NCF work to implement the nuts and bolts of NEP seems like a positive step, ensuring importance to english as well allowing regional/local languages, curbing rote learning and also adding the wealth of Indian ideas and thinking over millenia seems welcome.
    Michel deftly answered the more contentious topics and also seems open to suggestions and criticisms, we need more such dialogues to explain positions which get lost in browbeating and politics.

  • @AmalTan
    @AmalTan 20 дней назад +7

    This shows Christophe Jaffrelot(who has nothing but hate for Indian tradition), is only an aberration. French have always been sympathetic towards Indian nation building. Good job Michel Danino!

    • @xxyz2023
      @xxyz2023 20 дней назад +1

      26,100 govt schools have closed in UP as per Indian Govt's United District Information System for Education UDISE.
      In Feb, union govt had reduced funding for education. Education budget
      2024 : 2.5%
      2022 : 2.64%
      2021 : 2.64%
      2020 : 3%
      2019 : 3.4%
      2018 : 3.48%
      2017 : 3.7%
      2016 : 3.65%
      2015 : 3.88%
      2014 : 3.8%
      2013 : 4.77%
      2012 : 4.97%
      2011 : 5%
      2010 : 4.5%

    • @AmalTan
      @AmalTan 20 дней назад

      @@xxyz2023 Yes expenditure on education need to increase. But what has it to do with the issue of promoting mother tongue in teaching? Also school have not been closed but clubbed together for better management in UP.

    • @grapeshott
      @grapeshott 20 дней назад

      Christophe Jaffrelot hates ethnic nationalism

    • @nv9991
      @nv9991 20 дней назад

      @@AmalTan Don't even try to educate "agenda agent" and bonded-voter-slave "Abdul" of the old ecosystem. Many "on paper" schools which were basically ghost schools paying salaries got closed as the system started catching such gosht schools. Ask this man if he can quote just 3 real working schools in UP that have been closed? He will not be able to quote the names and addresses of such just 3 schools from UP.

    • @AmalTan
      @AmalTan 20 дней назад

      @@xxyz2023 If you have decided what you want to believe than I have nothing to say.

  • @user-vc9dj6hj8e
    @user-vc9dj6hj8e 11 дней назад +1

    how is mr michael still shaping indian children? i thought we were free 75 years ago and sanskrit will come back.

  • @MrRk540
    @MrRk540 15 дней назад

    Great interview. One thing that Print should do is the interviewer read and let us know as well and perhaps in this day and age of internet where pdf's are available, point us to the book in question. We will read and determine ourselves. We do not need some assinine intellectual with an agenda telling us what the book is about.

  • @krishnakumarangamuthu8944
    @krishnakumarangamuthu8944 12 дней назад

    Our knowledge systems are elitist and should be included selectively. Only secular systems should be accepted

  • @krishnakumarangamuthu8944
    @krishnakumarangamuthu8944 12 дней назад

    We cannot hand over the curriculum framework to experts without political oversight as our experts have failed to deliver in the past.
    They lack social understanding.
    They don't do grassroots work.

  • @dranjanaj7696
    @dranjanaj7696 8 дней назад

    Why is the preamble of the Constitution removed? Why the Mughal rule & Gujarat riots removed? Why are terms like social justice & secularism removed?

  • @dranjanaj7696
    @dranjanaj7696 8 дней назад

    If mother tongue is important, education itself should come under state domain. Why should a student study 3 languages in higher classes?

  • @krishnakumarangamuthu8944
    @krishnakumarangamuthu8944 12 дней назад

    And english is not a foreign language anymore as a large number of Indians have lived in an ecosystem where the common language is English for the better part of the last century.

  • @surajs5913
    @surajs5913 20 дней назад +1

    Without learning sciences in native language India can never hope to become a global research hub - the best example i can give in this regard is from my field:
    In electronics there are some things called inductance capacitance and resistance. Those who have a conversational understanding of english fail to see inductance is a measure of the ability to induce a magnetic field, capacitance is a measure of the capacity t o store electric charge and resistance a measure of the resistance to flow of current. Solving circuits with all three components systematically using their mathematical equations is possible but nowadays even a basic computer tool can do it. Understanding the meanings of all 3 quantities gives an engineer the ability to intuitively tweek these quantities to acheive a stated purpose.
    That is easier to acheive by learning the sciences in native language even if the same concepts are taught simultaneously in english to increase the students prospects of publishing research journal papers. Instead in the present system we are manufacturing thousands of second class engineers who are fit to act as aides to those who understand these fundamental concepts clearly rather than making thousands of researchers capable of doing fundamental research.

  • @pawankumar-dn2dl
    @pawankumar-dn2dl 15 дней назад

    There is too much pressure but you are trying to hide.

  • @maheshpalsingh2097
    @maheshpalsingh2097 20 дней назад +1

    No body is undermining English it is only effort to promote mother tongue.

  • @whaddoiknow6519
    @whaddoiknow6519 20 дней назад +1

    What this person is thinking? Why he is making such remark? India should be proud of native language Hinglish.

  • @grapeshott
    @grapeshott 20 дней назад +6

    No political pressure? I am laughing

    • @sujesh4684
      @sujesh4684 20 дней назад

      He seems to do Modi's bidding without any benefit😂

  • @roopeshkumar2588
    @roopeshkumar2588 17 дней назад

    12:30

  • @roopeshkumar2588
    @roopeshkumar2588 17 дней назад

    12:42

  • @indian9632
    @indian9632 20 дней назад +3

    Teaching should be done in mother tongue. Thats ehat best for students to grasp the knowledge

    • @pavankumarramabhotla6623
      @pavankumarramabhotla6623 20 дней назад +1

      English and Mother Tongue. Learning Hindi should be optional.

    • @sujesh4684
      @sujesh4684 20 дней назад +1

      Is that behind all your typos?

  • @oscar-kt7pj
    @oscar-kt7pj 20 дней назад +8

    Bhai yeh aur ek gada hai. Agar higher education english mein hi hoti hai toh hindi ko itna mahatva kyun diya jaye????? Kya world education hindi mein hota hai? Hindi mein doctor ban sakte hai kya? Jab medical terms global hota hai. Bhai jara apne ankhon se obssession ki patti utar lo.

    • @indian9632
      @indian9632 20 дней назад +5

      Are doctors serving the English speaking patients or Hindi speaking speakers?
      Is everything in English in Japan or Germany? Has it made their less proficient?

    • @Farmer-wn3mi
      @Farmer-wn3mi 20 дней назад +2

      Are bhai, fir government kyo higher education hindi me nhi de rahi hai..

    • @Farmer-wn3mi
      @Farmer-wn3mi 20 дней назад +1

      @oscar. Absolutely right.
      Rss bjp agenda. In the name of culture.

    • @eklavyavyom
      @eklavyavyom 20 дней назад

      Japan, Germany, France, Italy , Spain , China, Korea all these countries are much more advanced than India and all of them teach school children in their native language.

    • @AmalTan
      @AmalTan 20 дней назад +4

      @@indian9632 Also China, Russia, France, Spain, Italy, etc; teach in their mother tongue at all levels of education.

  • @cokedupnormies2651
    @cokedupnormies2651 20 дней назад +1

    Sanskrit 🙌

  • @NeelanjanBandyopadhyay
    @NeelanjanBandyopadhyay 20 дней назад

    Description has a problem: millionaire millennia