Honestly, a pretty disapointing end to this Arc, but with how disapointing this Arc was in the Manga, it's quite fitting. The Anime had a much better ending to all of this. The new Arc looks promising, though. Very interesting.
And even removing the “Zenos would eliminate everyone if the right wish wasn’t made” plot point I felt makes the whole TOP in the manga a waste of time. The point of the TOP in the anime was to see if the universes were worth keeping by seeing if the winner would make the selfless wish for the sake of everyone else. I find that better than what Toyotaro gave here.
I thought the reason Toyotaro rushed this arc was because he wanted to get to the Broly stuff ASAP, but nah, he skipped that arc to introduce a new one! That being said, this chapter was actually not that bad when I read it.
*I still prefer the Anime’s T.O.P ending with Goku, Frieza, and Android 17 but this is still pretty cool R.I.P for our boy Gohan Akira has totally forgotten Him.*
Gohan is irrelevant, get over it already. He is not and never was a fighter. There is no place for Gohan in the series. If you were a fan of Gohan, you'd know and accept it.
Which why the manga was better, it took the shine off Goku for once. Not one side character in Dragon Ball is relevant anymore and its sad. Characters like Tien, Piccolo and even Vegeta get shafted constantly so Goku can look good. Like damn Goku was taking hard L's in Dragon Ball, to all of a sudden getting everything handed quite easily. He just has to yell very hard. I like the fact that it was 17 and Frieza who divised a plan to ensure Universe's 7 victory instead of Goku muscling it through hogging all the spotlight.
@@mikey2555 Yeah, a base Goku with virtually NO energy and extremely little stamina being able to do better than even a tired True Golden Frieza and severely injured 17 was probably my biggest gripe with the finale of the anime. That said, I still find the anime's ending to be superior by a wide margin.
Mikey255 goku didn’t get that many wins in super though He lost to beerus, He got tricked and almost got killed by frieza and then he stole vegeta’s kill He sort of tied against black in their first encounter, he lost to black when they fought again in the future 2 times, if it wasn’t for zeno it would all be over and he lost to jiren twice before finally overpowering him with ultra instinct only to then need Android 17 and frieza’s help Of course goku is gonna get the major time in the spotlight, he’s the main character but you can’t say goku wins every time, he loses a lot
Kinda disappointed that 17 & Freeza had planned out the whole thing. Like, it felt like U7 has everything under control, and there was no reason to worry. No one seemed *that* desperate. Compared to the anime version, where Goku was struggling to go SSJ and Freeza tried so hard he got his tail cut-off. U7 made it look too easy in the manga, is what I'm trying to say. Could've been worse, I guess.
I also dislike that the fact the Zenos would've erased all the other Universes if a selfish wish had been made wasn't mentioned. Whis made the point that Zeno wanted to see if mortals could change, which tied up the Zamasu Arc quite nicely; it showed the Kai was wrong after all since we never got a definitive answer from the show.
honestly that would have worked for me if they had alluded to freeza and 17 at some point planning this out. it really just seems like they threw it in there to come off as smart. felt rushed as hell to.
@@TRIL3X *Copied this from a comment I made in another thread.* EXACTLY! I'm baffled as to what was even the *point* of this tournament in the manga adaptation (other than just because the Zeno's did it on a whim). In the anime it showed that the Zeno's were more competent and had some level of morality and foresight (edit: also some level of self awareness). Furthermore, it shows that the gods will sometimes operate on much grander plans and ideas that only THEY have the power to carry out. It added a very much needed *depth* to an otherwise straightforward, semi-plain story. * Sigh * At least it's over and done.
@@Cedricfilms i agree but to be honest with you both anime and manga tournament of power were nothing but universe 7 masturbation. Excluding tien and Krillin all we got was the z fighters slaughtering 80 noobs, getting cheap shotted and finally goku vs the only real character in this arc, jiren. Complete disrespect of the other universes by making them complete fodder and no fleshing out. Should have just scrapped the multiverse concept if this is how you treat it.
As a 17 fan, I was happier with the anime ending because it was more epic and 17 actually fought Jiren, and I loved the interaction between him and frieza. However, I agree the way the manga did it was better writing, making it all a plan to fake self-destruct and wait out the tournament was way more believable. Plus it didn’t seem like 17 was as OP as we was in the anime. I can appreciate both tellings of the story honestly.
@@calebnelson58 lol at least give it a chance if new arc is trash then i will agree with you I only liked the Tournament Of Power but it still was not even that good
If it does return (which is pretty likely to happen) I think it'll be around second half 2019-early 2020, because they gotta have a proper preproduction this time to avoid the same schedule problems Super had before, so we'll probably not gonna see it so soon. Still hype, though.
You didn't mention why you think removing the threat of Zeno erasing the winner improves characterization. Personally, I thought it made Zeno seem more godly, and having deeper, wiser goals than just being a child out for play. It also lines up with the goal of saving the universes hinging on more than just fighting power. I also thought the 17 reveal came off more comical than smart, since it was too abrupt. It would have been better to have him appear at a pivotal moment at the end, with some foreshadowing beforehand. The weird timing of his reveal is a problem both versions have. I'd have liked it if it was also revealed to be an idea Roshi and Gohan had come up with before the tournament as a contingency for the human members, but hadn't thought would be an option with everyone eliminated.
I also think 17 in the anime growth was better. He was the one who started out saying he didn't really care if his own Universe was erased because they'd all go out together. He also chastised 18 about "human emotion" yet it was he who sacrificed himself for Goku and Vegeta which didn't seem like a "plan". So when it came to him winning the guy who says "I really wanted that boat" being the guy to revive all Universe wraps him up nicely. In the manga it really just felt like "Hey Saiyans, Frieza and Jiren are awesome and no one else can do anything"
@@kuropiko so, we just forgetting the "4kids" logo? It doesn't matter if it had blood, it was still a kids show. Look no further then the spirit bomb? DB has always had those good teachable morals.
At last, the ToP arc is over. It had its ups and downs...mostly downs. But finally, we're on to a new arc. I just hope this'll be better and less rushed than the ToP arc was.
@@hakureiararagi6640 Yeah, but the anime had pretty hyped moments. they even gave side characters their moments. Heck, even universes we didn't care about had epic moments. Universe 3, 4, 9, 10, etc. In the manga, they were just casted off as if they didn't matter (although they really didn't). It was interesting to see the other Universes besides universe 7 have their screentime.
I disagree, I really didn't feel anything reading this manga chpater. And i can still feel the chills after watching Ep. 130-131 over and over again. I can't understand either where the hell did Frieza and 17 hide. The platform was pretty small and flat in Toyotaro's version, really you never see a single rock or mountain. It's just a plain arena all the time. And the fight scenes were pretty much random punches over and over during the entire ToP. Didn't see even a single technique from Jiren, from anyone...
@@dendenmushi9714 I wouldn't even say new, there was no moveset AT ALL. If Toyo, or anyone, consider reciclying a technique from his fusion (thing that doesn't make sense) and one panel of useless and boneless arms that did nothing but just for getting eliminated in the next panel, like... Those weren't even fighting techniques, and you could only mention 2 poor moves between 80 fighters, and one of the two being from a main and already known character... Shameful. Not even a single unique fighting style, no martial arts, just random punches.Toyotaro didn't put much effort at all in any fight nor any new fighter.
It’s a shame Toyo was forced to rush the manga, he has allot of fun and interesting point/backstory to add and his writing despite its little time is pretty solid and has allot more fun fights in it
Yeah. When I first saw that I was just like bs! It's Frieza all over again. I mean like they could at least explain it if they somehow constructed a gun to nulify and take down saiyans or something lol
WELP! You heard the clown, Kibito! You got killed by a demon, so we can't bring you back to life. "But...I was ressurected years ago-" LOOK MAN! I don't make the rules here, I just enforce them. Hit the bricks
Anyone saying that after all the issues the anime has shown is just being wilfully ignorant at this point. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. And as usual, Geekdom not even trying to hide his bias by hearting that comment.
@@TonyMishima92 Geekdom isnt biased he said in this video that he felt the manga endin was better its just the manga messed up so much where as the anime had its flaws it was compensated by alot of great moments the manga had many many flaws with lackluster "great" moments
@@Cedricfilms How does an unbiased person consistently "heart" comments bashing the manga? How does an unbiased person constantly take scenes from the manga out of context and miseducate people on nonexistent plotholes? Or bash Toyotaro and not any other author?
goku would lose tbh . Without Mui i dont think he is at beerus level yet .Remember in the MANGA beerus took on ALL the other god of destruction , and they were serious since grand priest threaten them to fight seriously. And was doing well. So beerus is one of if not THE strongest g.o.d. in the manga. And we saw goku cant go mui at will , he probably can IF the situation demans it. Fighting beerus now has no risks , if goku loses , nothing bad happens , the universe isnt in danger, so he doesnt have the motivation to go into mui now so he will lose again
I think a demon showing up and killing people with no way of bringing them back would be great for dragonball. All this time there's never been any drama cus of the dragonballs and the Gods being friends with the good guys.
Would this mean that buu will get transformed back to kid buu or the original buu. Cause after absorbing the grand kaoshin he became the buu we know. ........🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Probably will revert back to kid buu and will most likely have something to do with the next arc. I think thats why they took him out of the t.o.p. Maybe kid buu gets absorbed by the villain or something like and evil majuub?
Well technically this buu extracted all the evil from him and made thay grey Buu. So maybe he'll look like kid buu but be banevolent and just ride off into the sunset after the arc and we won't have to hear from him or Mr Satan anymore.
No it sucked Vegeta got stunned. Pretty sure now any two guys from Naruto can defeat Vegeta. Seriously I am quitting manga of dbs. Permenantly it just keep on nerfing our guys
22:10 So if the Galactic Patrol are basically space cops, and Krillin is a regular human cop, and Android 17 is a Park Ranger, do you think we'll get a side story about the misadventures of Krillin and 17 as temporary Galactic Patrol members in a Dragon Ball Buddy Cop Comedy arc guest starring Jaco? Cuz I definitely want that.
_Overall, my opinion is yes the Manga's version wasn't perfect, yes it was rushed, but honestly the way the tournament ended was pretty fine in my book. The Manga's verison was more methodical and strategical while the Anime's version was more emotional and something of a spectacle. They're two sides to a coin that you can appreciate one over the other._
Agree. Though I would say both had moment boringness and the writing of both was lackluster. Still entertain me. Also I disagree with the strategical aspect. The manga was more stamina conservation strategy and the anime was utilisation of terrain and abilities strategy.
No manga sucked big time a guy who is faster than light can't jump to platform with his friend. Lol And Vegeta got taken out by a fucking stun gun. Now I think Sakura and Eno can defeat Vegeta with ease.
@Eggsdayz no still it's a plot hole Dyspo no matter how tire he is should be able to at least jump. Also ssjb get down by laser is not plot hole as ssj was hurt by rock thrown by krillin.
@@Geekdom101 you did but I was more so referring to you mentioning goku using the full Nelson as a submission move. But it seemed to me that goku had every intention of sacrificing himself by getting hit by the blast. It doesn't really make sense for goku's last stand to be him trying to overpower jiren with a suplex type of technique.
It's extremely unbelievable that this patrolman #1 or not, could speed blitz Goku and even Vegeta who watched Goku get taken down, The Galactic patrol have always been scared of the Frieza family, Jaco even called taking on Frieza a suicide mission and this guy takes down POST Broly movie Goku and Vegeta, wacky power scaling aside this new arc looks interesting.
+Nathan Pace That's when he let his guard down, The patrolman easily got behind Goku and then did the exact same thing to Vegeta even though he already saw Goku get taken down.
"The writers" are pretty much Toriyama himself and Toyotaro, so don't act like DBS is done by some random person because everything that happens at least in the manga have the "ok" from Toriyama. Also, DB as a whole never had much logic...
@@leonreborn1308 but seriously stun gun take out the being who is at least strongest being in cosmos. Plus Vegeta wasn't off guard like Goku plus guy sneak up behind freaking Vegeta and freeza forces we're kicking ass of galactic patrol. And everybody was afraid of freeza. (Heck Goku is now worse like Superman who get beaten by random people seriously it suck).
Manga explains things way better while the anime has cooler fights because no duh its animated lol so if you ask me both have their goodies and baddies. I cant diss any of them because one is the original work and the other the adaption of said original work. Not to mention if it wasn't for the Manga the good ol classic anime of db/dbz would of never come so really...is kinda silly and pathetic to diss it. Regardless, DBS is great and I hope this new story makes sense and gets an awesome adaptation with nice fighting scenes. P.S. Hope to see some Broly in the near future.
@@kevbeenballin9 i don't wanna read it anymore. In the anime. Dyspo and toppo were my favorite. The fact that they didn't even show god toppo is really really bad
@@kevbeenballin9 the manga is trash. Roshi went mastered ultra bootleg instinct against jiren. That alone should be enough to describe the level of retardation that the manga is.
Why cant we get something in between the anime quality and manga quality, the manga makes more sense but has worse fights and rushes through things, and the anime has great fights but doesn’t make much sense, and the top dragged on too long. Why cant they fuse into what it should’ve been in the first place
I feel that the manga is the one that doesn't make sense at all in terms of power scaling. People were complaining about Krillin and Andriod 17 being able to stand against Super Sayain Blue in the anime. Yet Master Roshi was able to combat Jiren in the manga. Same logic being applied with Goku and Jiren holding back but the power gap in the manga between Jiren and Roshi is more ludicrous. Also don't get me started on Manga Kale. In this continuity she is able to overpower Golden Frieza and almost started to push Blue Goku back. Then when she fused into Kefla, Base Gohan fought on equal terms with her. Somehow Base Gohan = Kelfa > Kale > Golden Frieza? At least in the anime that one scene where Kale walks through Blue Goku's Kamehameha is made apparent that he was holding back and underestimated Kale. When later in a weakened state he singlehandedly took on both Kale and Caulifla and eventually Kefla.
The anime fights are the worst fights I’ve ever seen in my entire life no exaggeration. There’s little to no choreography in them just punch block loops for half the episodes.
@@SpeakHerMusic Then please elaborate what "real" powerscaling is instead of making accusatory claims without explanation or no discernable reason. By definition the concept of powerscaling is comparing the feats and powers of characters to determine their strength. Unless you want me to write a full on essay and cite every single fucking battle would you be so kind to to enlighten me on my short comings?
Meh, anime did the same trick with Gohan and Dyspo. The anime finale was brilliant, Goku and Frieza actually fighting together, Vegeta jealous and the finale, incomparable
What would Majin Buu revert to if he gets the Dai Kai removed? I'm pretty intrigued at the direction they are taking this. Now that they mentioned the presence of demons, we're being hinted at the Demon Realm making an official appearance as the next villains. Instead of having an angel betray our crew, you can have a demon as strong as an angel that could rival even Beerus and force Whis into action.
What if I’m a new arc Goku and Jiren have to team up to defeat the demon who killed his parents? Then Jiren finally understands what his teacher was trying to teach him
Definitely preferred the anime version TOP over Manga, but I LOVED the Frieza Goku tag team at the end of the Manga there :) Also, the new arc is giving us a reason why they wrote Majin Buu to sleep, so thanks a good eating foreshadowing...who would have thought:D
Took tension out of it in the game the last fight everyone gave it there all goku barely could go ssj it was desperation and u felt it in the manga it looked like u7 stomped no tension and didnt once think U7 could loose
@@Cedricfilms yeah well we all knew u7 would win lol. The anime seemed way too long with the T.O.P arc like every single character had to have their own episode. And the end was just rushed.
@@ChrisJerico2 I'm just saying it seemed better to me just my opinion. I only liked a few episodes of the arc in the anime. It seemed to drag out forever and then when you wanted it to drag out. It just felt like it ended quickly or was rushed. I'm saying this chapter felt more like it was a plan like it had more team work. Don't get me wrong the anime visually was amazing at the end and goku and frieza teaming up was awesome. But idk I didn't really care for the T.O.P arc to much the goku black arc was my favriote Execpt for the ending lol
Devin Renneberg To each his own I guess, personally I enjoyed the anime because even if it was a little long, it gave shine to more people not named Goku Frieza or Jiren. Also the desperation was in full effect at the ending of the arc where you see Frieza losing his tail and Goku struggling to turn super sayin for one last push. Also the spontaneous of it all felt natural as if it’s a last ditch effort instead of the manga where the plan kinda comes outta thin air and never was hinted at. Not to mention how the Anime made UI look incredible and gave it the shine it deserves with a great drawback to keep from abuse, while in the manga it felt extremely lackluster and as just another new form
The biggest thing I was worried about was Super Broly wouldn't be cannon due to the skip into the next arc, but luckily that doesn't seem to be the case.
Thank you for not spoiling the Broly movie for us fans that want to see it first! I really respect you for always giving us a heads up to turn the video off.
It feels good to watch geekedom again. I’ve avoided the channel and even unsubscribed to avoid the Brody movies spoilers but I’m glad I was able to get your incite on this manga chapter senpai.
I don't have the greatest DB knowledge, but when they separate the grand Kaioshin from Majin Buu, does it no turn him in the evil Buu or Kid Buu again? I just remember the few scenes from the DB manga where somebody tells the story of Buu and how Kid Buu was the original Buu.
*this is how it goes.* If grand Kaioshin is extracted from him, he will turn into Buff Buu that had only South Kaioshin Absorbed. We saw a climpse of that form during Super Buu’s transformation to Kid Buu.
Goku was not trying to do a suplex, but just hold Jiren in place to prevent him from escaping the Death Ball. While preparing to take the hit in the process. Just like when the Special Beam Cannon was used against both Radutz and Goku in Z. Also Vegeta used the Manga exclusive Gamma Burst Flash not Galick Gun. During the beam combo with Goku's kamehameha. You can tell by the hands and arm postions. I call foul on the fact that Android 17 "did not do anything" during the T.O.P. While not when against Jiren, but he made a lot elimnations via K.O. throughout. Also Goku not using or even able to acess the U.I./M.U.I. since the T.O.P. is not a spoiler. It was stated at the end of DBS Anime ending. Along with interviews.
Idk, this shit is sloppy honestly lmao. If vermouth became a God because of his master that means jirens master is older than him meaning jiren gotta be old as shit too.
Also if Jirens master was friends with Belmoud, then he had to have been strong.. so this demon must be pretty strong.. but where the fuck was belmoud in all this?
Hey Geekdom, just a suggestion. Many comics related channels on YT add filters and cover any word balloons, and these seem to prevent copyright issues. Hope this helps. Oh boy, that new arc looks suuuuuper interesting.
Hopefully filmimg it works out. Maybe put a blur filter over the comic. Not too blurry but enough so you can kinda make it out, but enough to keep any strike issues away.
Jiren's defeat in the manga in my opinion is extremely bad it's just so rushed and then to top it all off Goku and Vegeta get knocked out unconscious with some type of "gun" like wtf these two are god level a gun shouldn't even graze them let alone knock them out
Yep, and as far as i heard, Gogeta vs Broly isn't short, and it will contain some of the most impressive animation. Also he'll be in base, Ssj form and ssb form, and Broly this time turned lssj and went apeship cause Frieza killed Paragus
Broly and Gogeta now being Canon hmm.. Hope that SS4 would be Canon making it above SSB and close to Ultrainstinct level and that Janemba could soon be Canon too Broly, Gogeta, ssj4 Gogeta and Janemba are my top favorite dragonball chars lol
+1 To make ssj4 Canon! If Ssj4 would be Canon, Then ssj4 's red hair explanation could be being in super Saiyan God which would consume less stamina and also beyond super Saiyan blue power. +Final Kamehameha x100
Thanks for your objective review Geekdom! I thought this time you actually said the good and bad things about the manga, rather than just the latter. I liked both the anime and manga versions - each had their pluses. The anime version was more dramatic and entertaining as Goku and Freeza teaming up against Jiren was amazing. However, I agree that it made MUCH more sense that Android 17 was hiding because nobody could sense his ki and that he couldn't have self-destructed since his bomb was removed. The anesthesia guns working on Goku and Vegeta was weird, but oddly funny and in-line with Toriyama's wacky sense of humor.
What if jirens parents were killed by merged farmer with shotgun.
Oh god !!
That's the truth
@HARD BOY Only double barrel shotgun is enough for killing jiren and his parents 😂
well that's called Gundam Heavyarms EW
That's actually very plausible in Toyotaro's continuity
Honestly, a pretty disapointing end to this Arc, but with how disapointing this Arc was in the Manga, it's quite fitting. The Anime had a much better ending to all of this.
The new Arc looks promising, though. Very interesting.
I agree with u
And even removing the “Zenos would eliminate everyone if the right wish wasn’t made” plot point I felt makes the whole TOP in the manga a waste of time.
The point of the TOP in the anime was to see if the universes were worth keeping by seeing if the winner would make the selfless wish for the sake of everyone else. I find that better than what Toyotaro gave here.
The anime is garbage
@@mikey2555 the manga is garbage
They both trash
Anime t.o.p > manga t.o.p
The manga was too rush and watered down in my honest opinion
Facts!
mcBUFFfluff agreed
I agree
Only thing I liked more was gohan fighting kefla instead of goku
@@NickyDiesel i agree with that
I thought the reason Toyotaro rushed this arc was because he wanted to get to the Broly stuff ASAP, but nah, he skipped that arc to introduce a new one!
That being said, this chapter was actually not that bad when I read it.
DBZMacky I think he rushed the top to get ahead of the anime or be at the same pace with it instead of being waaaaayyyy behind
Lol he obviously rushed it to get ahead of the anime. And it would be a waste of time to adapt the Broly saga if there's already a movie.
Tricko facts
Tricko Given rhe fact that Broly follows Toeiyamas draft, (no manga or anime powerups), the anime is probably going to adapt it.
@@jcast39atmsn Oh ho, you're giving Toei a bit too much credit on that. They're going to redo it to save money.
Makes perfect sense to take advantage of not sensing 17's ki
*I still prefer the Anime’s T.O.P ending with Goku, Frieza, and Android 17 but this is still pretty cool R.I.P for our boy Gohan Akira has totally forgotten Him.*
Gohan is irrelevant, get over it already. He is not and never was a fighter. There is no place for Gohan in the series. If you were a fan of Gohan, you'd know and accept it.
To be fair my brother. Gohan choice that life of begin forget
Which why the manga was better, it took the shine off Goku for once. Not one side character in Dragon Ball is relevant anymore and its sad. Characters like Tien, Piccolo and even Vegeta get shafted constantly so Goku can look good. Like damn Goku was taking hard L's in Dragon Ball, to all of a sudden getting everything handed quite easily. He just has to yell very hard. I like the fact that it was 17 and Frieza who divised a plan to ensure Universe's 7 victory instead of Goku muscling it through hogging all the spotlight.
@@mikey2555 Yeah, a base Goku with virtually NO energy and extremely little stamina being able to do better than even a tired True Golden Frieza and severely injured 17 was probably my biggest gripe with the finale of the anime. That said, I still find the anime's ending to be superior by a wide margin.
Mikey255 goku didn’t get that many wins in super though
He lost to beerus, He got tricked and almost got killed by frieza and then he stole vegeta’s kill
He sort of tied against black in their first encounter, he lost to black when they fought again in the future 2 times, if it wasn’t for zeno it would all be over and he lost to jiren twice before finally overpowering him with ultra instinct only to then need Android 17 and frieza’s help
Of course goku is gonna get the major time in the spotlight, he’s the main character but you can’t say goku wins every time, he loses a lot
Kinda disappointed that 17 & Freeza had planned out the whole thing. Like, it felt like U7 has everything under control, and there was no reason to worry. No one seemed *that* desperate. Compared to the anime version, where Goku was struggling to go SSJ and Freeza tried so hard he got his tail cut-off.
U7 made it look too easy in the manga, is what I'm trying to say. Could've been worse, I guess.
I agree 100%
I also dislike that the fact the Zenos would've erased all the other Universes if a selfish wish had been made wasn't mentioned.
Whis made the point that Zeno wanted to see if mortals could change, which tied up the Zamasu Arc quite nicely; it showed the Kai was wrong after all since we never got a definitive answer from the show.
honestly that would have worked for me if they had alluded to freeza and 17 at some point planning this out. it really just seems like they threw it in there to come off as smart.
felt rushed as hell to.
@@TRIL3X *Copied this from a comment I made in another thread.*
EXACTLY! I'm baffled as to what was even the *point* of this tournament in the manga adaptation (other than just because the Zeno's did it on a whim). In the anime it showed that the Zeno's were more competent and had some level of morality and foresight (edit: also some level of self awareness). Furthermore, it shows that the gods will sometimes operate on much grander plans and ideas that only THEY have the power to carry out. It added a very much needed *depth* to an otherwise straightforward, semi-plain story.
* Sigh * At least it's over and done.
@@Cedricfilms i agree but to be honest with you both anime and manga tournament of power were nothing but universe 7 masturbation. Excluding tien and Krillin all we got was the z fighters slaughtering 80 noobs, getting cheap shotted and finally goku vs the only real character in this arc, jiren. Complete disrespect of the other universes by making them complete fodder and no fleshing out. Should have just scrapped the multiverse concept if this is how you treat it.
The Manga TOP Arc may have had it's ups and downs, but in the end I'm just glad it's finished so we can experience a new original story.
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Bruh....i can’t believe iron man is in Dragon Ball Super
Ball in heaven Stan Lee🙏
No bro that's Jaco the galactic patrolman Big Brother Hugh Jackman.
@@DRAWDAILYchannel lolllll is this really true
Glad to know some actually notice this little Easter egg if you can call it that.
Its Jaco's Dad, Shaquel o'neil
As a 17 fan, I was happier with the anime ending because it was more epic and 17 actually fought Jiren, and I loved the interaction between him and frieza. However, I agree the way the manga did it was better writing, making it all a plan to fake self-destruct and wait out the tournament was way more believable. Plus it didn’t seem like 17 was as OP as we was in the anime. I can appreciate both tellings of the story honestly.
Galactic Patrol Prisoner ARC !! Let's go!!!! Who else is ready for Dragon Ball Super Anime to return in 2019 ?????
@@calebnelson58 why not?:))
Lol it would fking suck if it returned, the only decent episodes were 130 and 131 XD
@@calebnelson58 lol at least give it a chance if new arc is trash then i will agree with you
I only liked the Tournament Of Power but it still was not even that good
@@calebnelson58 I agree. GT has aged pretty well I'd say. Before super everyone called GT garb
If it does return (which is pretty likely to happen) I think it'll be around second half 2019-early 2020, because they gotta have a proper preproduction this time to avoid the same schedule problems Super had before, so we'll probably not gonna see it so soon. Still hype, though.
I prefer the TOP of Anime. The collaboration between Goku and Freezer was simply epic.... No one expected that. Goku and Freezer fight side by side...
You didn't mention why you think removing the threat of Zeno erasing the winner improves characterization. Personally, I thought it made Zeno seem more godly, and having deeper, wiser goals than just being a child out for play. It also lines up with the goal of saving the universes hinging on more than just fighting power. I also thought the 17 reveal came off more comical than smart, since it was too abrupt. It would have been better to have him appear at a pivotal moment at the end, with some foreshadowing beforehand. The weird timing of his reveal is a problem both versions have. I'd have liked it if it was also revealed to be an idea Roshi and Gohan had come up with before the tournament as a contingency for the human members, but hadn't thought would be an option with everyone eliminated.
I also think 17 in the anime growth was better. He was the one who started out saying he didn't really care if his own Universe was erased because they'd all go out together. He also chastised 18 about "human emotion" yet it was he who sacrificed himself for Goku and Vegeta which didn't seem like a "plan". So when it came to him winning the guy who says "I really wanted that boat" being the guy to revive all Universe wraps him up nicely.
In the manga it really just felt like "Hey Saiyans, Frieza and Jiren are awesome and no one else can do anything"
@@kuropiko lmao that's not true.
Agreed
@@kuropiko I mean, if you're gonna say that about Super. DB has always been a kids show, even in "Z".
@@kuropiko so, we just forgetting the "4kids" logo?
It doesn't matter if it had blood, it was still a kids show. Look no further then the spirit bomb? DB has always had those good teachable morals.
At last, the ToP arc is over. It had its ups and downs...mostly downs. But finally, we're on to a new arc. I just hope this'll be better and less rushed than the ToP arc was.
Mostly downs? That's the manga
@@hamzamansoor34 Yeah...that's what I was referring to.
Both manga and animé top had mostly down moments
@@hakureiararagi6640 i don't agree with this statement except if it was for the manga
@@hakureiararagi6640 Yeah, but the anime had pretty hyped moments. they even gave side characters their moments. Heck, even universes we didn't care about had epic moments. Universe 3, 4, 9, 10, etc. In the manga, they were just casted off as if they didn't matter (although they really didn't). It was interesting to see the other Universes besides universe 7 have their screentime.
That wasn’t the Galic Gun it was the Gamma Burst Flash!
I was looking to see if anyone else thought that too!
"Unless this guy is extremely powerful which I'm willing to bet he's not."
*laughs in Angel.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I disagree, I really didn't feel anything reading this manga chpater. And i can still feel the chills after watching Ep. 130-131 over and over again.
I can't understand either where the hell did Frieza and 17 hide. The platform was pretty small and flat in Toyotaro's version, really you never see a single rock or mountain. It's just a plain arena all the time. And the fight scenes were pretty much random punches over and over during the entire ToP. Didn't see even a single technique from Jiren, from anyone...
Eh, now that you said it, it's true that no fighter showed new moveset aside from Vegeta spirit sword and kakunsa and rozie elastic arms.
@@dendenmushi9714 I wouldn't even say new, there was no moveset AT ALL. If Toyo, or anyone, consider reciclying a technique from his fusion (thing that doesn't make sense) and one panel of useless and boneless arms that did nothing but just for getting eliminated in the next panel, like... Those weren't even fighting techniques, and you could only mention 2 poor moves between 80 fighters, and one of the two being from a main and already known character... Shameful. Not even a single unique fighting style, no martial arts, just random punches.Toyotaro didn't put much effort at all in any fight nor any new fighter.
Pretty much.
No gohan in broly movie😢😭
Rip
Deal with it.
Yaaaaay!
Because he was changing Pan's diapers the whole movie.
@@R_Yumad I still think he will appear in the end😤
It’s a shame Toyo was forced to rush the manga, he has allot of fun and interesting point/backstory to add and his writing despite its little time is pretty solid and has allot more fun fights in it
Looks like Gamma Burst Flash instead of Galick Gun, node to Future Trunks Arc in the Manga!
Goku Fights "god of destruction" tier characters... survives hakai sphere ... Goes down by a ray gun... Srsly...
Sai Anish
piccolo’s weakness: chopsticks
Goku’s weakness: ray weapons
🤣 hahaha
ahahahaahofwsaghset;ghterh;o@@GamingMasterAnthony
Yeah. When I first saw that I was just like bs! It's Frieza all over again. I mean like they could at least explain it if they somehow constructed a gun to nulify and take down saiyans or something lol
WELP! You heard the clown, Kibito! You got killed by a demon, so we can't bring you back to life.
"But...I was ressurected years ago-"
LOOK MAN! I don't make the rules here, I just enforce them. Hit the bricks
Anime>>>>>>>Manga
ok, we get it.
Anyone saying that after all the issues the anime has shown is just being wilfully ignorant at this point. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. And as usual, Geekdom not even trying to hide his bias by hearting that comment.
@@TonyMishima92 Geekdom isnt biased he said in this video that he felt the manga endin was better its just the manga messed up so much where as the anime had its flaws it was compensated by alot of great moments the manga had many many flaws with lackluster "great" moments
@@Cedricfilms
How does an unbiased person consistently "heart" comments bashing the manga? How does an unbiased person constantly take scenes from the manga out of context and miseducate people on nonexistent plotholes? Or bash Toyotaro and not any other author?
@@Mad_Beefs You have to be really sad person with no other thing to do besides bitching
This is probably what Toyotaro meant when he said he would pass the anime eventually right?
Manga T.O.P at best is average...
That Grand Supreme Kai thing, seems interesting, if he was extracted would Fat Buu become Kid Buu again?
Doubt it, the evil energy is just gone remember it got reincarnated. He may change form but it may be something else entirely.
@@RyuKaguya wouldn't his personality change? Isn't his friendliness mostly from him or am I thinking of something else?
One crazy thing I just thought up would be buu in a baby/form clean slate much how like a newborn is essential a blank canvas
Just need that beerus and goku rematch right now
@tyrese witt ....goku looks at beerus and says remaTch NOW boom lol
@@mojojojo1838 that's good enough of a reason for me xD
@@Saraf2202 hell yeah lol
LET THEM FIGHT!!!!
goku would lose tbh . Without Mui i dont think he is at beerus level yet .Remember in the MANGA beerus took on ALL the other god of destruction , and they were serious since grand priest threaten them to fight seriously. And was doing well. So beerus is one of if not THE strongest g.o.d. in the manga.
And we saw goku cant go mui at will , he probably can IF the situation demans it. Fighting beerus now has no risks , if goku loses , nothing bad happens , the universe isnt in danger, so he doesnt have the motivation to go into mui now so he will lose again
I think a demon showing up and killing people with no way of bringing them back would be great for dragonball. All this time there's never been any drama cus of the dragonballs and the Gods being friends with the good guys.
Og dragon. Ball had stakes
Super dragon balls can do anything won’t work
But who can they kill off?
Romero P. Gohan
Except we know they are all alive by the end of Z.
Would this mean that buu will get transformed back to kid buu or the original buu. Cause after absorbing the grand kaoshin he became the buu we know. ........🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Probably will revert back to kid buu and will most likely have something to do with the next arc. I think thats why they took him out of the t.o.p.
Maybe kid buu gets absorbed by the villain or something like and evil majuub?
Kid Buu Already Reincarnated
You think there's going to be consistency in the lore? Lololol
Well technically this buu extracted all the evil from him and made thay grey Buu. So maybe he'll look like kid buu but be banevolent and just ride off into the sunset after the arc and we won't have to hear from him or Mr Satan anymore.
You didn’t watch dbz did you?
So hyped for the new Arc!
People who say they are first need to die
@@SuperSikarlo Ok
@@SuperSikarlo that's a bit far
Will it have an anime adaptation?
No it sucked Vegeta got stunned. Pretty sure now any two guys from Naruto can defeat Vegeta. Seriously I am quitting manga of dbs. Permenantly it just keep on nerfing our guys
22:10
So if the Galactic Patrol are basically space cops, and Krillin is a regular human cop, and Android 17 is a Park Ranger, do you think we'll get a side story about the misadventures of Krillin and 17 as temporary Galactic Patrol members in a Dragon Ball Buddy Cop Comedy arc guest starring Jaco?
Cuz I definitely want that.
_Overall, my opinion is yes the Manga's version wasn't perfect, yes it was rushed, but honestly the way the tournament ended was pretty fine in my book. The Manga's verison was more methodical and strategical while the Anime's version was more emotional and something of a spectacle. They're two sides to a coin that you can appreciate one over the other._
Agree.
Though I would say both had moment boringness and the writing of both was lackluster.
Still entertain me.
Also I disagree with the strategical aspect. The manga was more stamina conservation strategy and the anime was utilisation of terrain and abilities strategy.
This pretty much
I'd still prefer this one, the build up to ideas and themes work more and aren't dragged down by filler
No manga sucked big time a guy who is faster than light can't jump to platform with his friend. Lol
And Vegeta got taken out by a fucking stun gun. Now I think Sakura and Eno can defeat Vegeta with ease.
Thank you Jay 3.0.
@Eggsdayz no still it's a plot hole
Dyspo no matter how tire he is should be able to at least jump.
Also ssjb get down by laser is not plot hole as ssj was hurt by rock thrown by krillin.
This why is best to wait for releases cuz u claimed Morro arc was “Filler” but that turned out to be false lol
I can't understand any of this where's the subtitles?
It should come in a few days, once it’s announced.
Justin Y. Wow it’s been awhile since I’ve seen you in a video
I've never seen a Justin Y comment That has this little likes in this little comments color me surprised
9:01 it seems more like a reference to piccolo and goku vs radditz
i said that- didnt I?
@@Geekdom101 you did but I was more so referring to you mentioning goku using the full Nelson as a submission move. But it seemed to me that goku had every intention of sacrificing himself by getting hit by the blast. It doesn't really make sense for goku's last stand to be him trying to overpower jiren with a suplex type of technique.
The anime is like expectations and the manga is the reality
Honestly this was kind of a let down keeping my expectations low for the next arc I really hope it becomes better than this
It's extremely unbelievable that this patrolman #1 or not, could speed blitz Goku and even Vegeta who watched Goku get taken down, The Galactic patrol have always been scared of the Frieza family, Jaco even called taking on Frieza a suicide mission and this guy takes down POST Broly movie Goku and Vegeta, wacky power scaling aside this new arc looks interesting.
Pretty sure Goku got ko'd by a ringpop when he let his guard down. Probably the same thing here.
+Nathan Pace That's when he let his guard down, The patrolman easily got behind Goku and then did the exact same thing to Vegeta even though he already saw Goku get taken down.
"The writers" are pretty much Toriyama himself and Toyotaro, so don't act like DBS is done by some random person because everything that happens at least in the manga have the "ok" from Toriyama.
Also, DB as a whole never had much logic...
But seriously now very horrible manga
Now guys like Sakura from Naruto can beat goku and Vegeta ass
@@leonreborn1308 but seriously stun gun take out the being who is at least strongest being in cosmos. Plus Vegeta wasn't off guard like Goku plus guy sneak up behind freaking Vegeta and freeza forces we're kicking ass of galactic patrol. And everybody was afraid of freeza. (Heck Goku is now worse like Superman who get beaten by random people seriously it suck).
Just watched the review of 63. I can't believe this arc started two years ago
Manga explains things way better while the anime has cooler fights because no duh its animated lol so if you ask me both have their goodies and baddies. I cant diss any of them because one is the original work and the other the adaption of said original work. Not to mention if it wasn't for the Manga the good ol classic anime of db/dbz would of never come so really...is kinda silly and pathetic to diss it.
Regardless, DBS is great and I hope this new story makes sense and gets an awesome adaptation with nice fighting scenes.
P.S. Hope to see some Broly in the near future.
It's not the same manga...
21:33 “A short in between arc” LMAO
We Finally done now though
I’m positive Jiren’s master died of a tornado. Jiren could have saved him but chose not to.
Lol Man of Steel much?😂😂😂😂
No, his master was gunned down in an alley while walking him home from the theater.
I Am The Master Baiter No he was assassinated by John Wilkes booth
No, he was shot by a robber then got carjacked.
@@AnUncreativeGuy no he got shot during a parade
5:41 i dont know if anyone said this yet but
thats gamma burst flash
The manga could have been better if we had god toppo
They don't?
@Revo top tier writer everybody...
@@masknzgamer u didn't even read it, maybe if u do, u might not think its that bad
@@kevbeenballin9 i don't wanna read it anymore. In the anime. Dyspo and toppo were my favorite. The fact that they didn't even show god toppo is really really bad
@@kevbeenballin9 the manga is trash. Roshi went mastered ultra bootleg instinct against jiren. That alone should be enough to describe the level of retardation that the manga is.
5:39 "galick gun " NOOOOOOOO thats gamma burst flash. The attack he used against fused zamasu
Why cant we get something in between the anime quality and manga quality, the manga makes more sense but has worse fights and rushes through things, and the anime has great fights but doesn’t make much sense, and the top dragged on too long. Why cant they fuse into what it should’ve been in the first place
TripleA gaming does manga really make that much sense?
I feel that the manga is the one that doesn't make sense at all in terms of power scaling.
People were complaining about Krillin and Andriod 17 being able to stand against Super Sayain Blue in the anime. Yet Master Roshi was able to combat Jiren in the manga. Same logic being applied with Goku and Jiren holding back but the power gap in the manga between Jiren and Roshi is more ludicrous.
Also don't get me started on Manga Kale. In this continuity she is able to overpower Golden Frieza and almost started to push Blue Goku back. Then when she fused into Kefla, Base Gohan fought on equal terms with her. Somehow Base Gohan = Kelfa > Kale > Golden Frieza?
At least in the anime that one scene where Kale walks through Blue Goku's Kamehameha is made apparent that he was holding back and underestimated Kale. When later in a weakened state he singlehandedly took on both Kale and Caulifla and eventually Kefla.
Shogun Dedede you have no idea what power scaling is or how it works so that’s your first problem lol
The anime fights are the worst fights I’ve ever seen in my entire life no exaggeration. There’s little to no choreography in them just punch block loops for half the episodes.
@@SpeakHerMusic Then please elaborate what "real" powerscaling is instead of making accusatory claims without explanation or no discernable reason. By definition the concept of powerscaling is comparing the feats and powers of characters to determine their strength. Unless you want me to write a full on essay and cite every single fucking battle would you be so kind to to enlighten me on my short comings?
Meh, anime did the same trick with Gohan and Dyspo. The anime finale was brilliant, Goku and Frieza actually fighting together, Vegeta jealous and the finale, incomparable
The anime was crap
Yeah you guys keep your ultra instinct Roshi, I'll take the 'crap'
Technically a raditz moment too with special beam through Goku
I'm super EVIL yeah, ui roshi, make sense right?
What would Majin Buu revert to if he gets the Dai Kai removed? I'm pretty intrigued at the direction they are taking this. Now that they mentioned the presence of demons, we're being hinted at the Demon Realm making an official appearance as the next villains. Instead of having an angel betray our crew, you can have a demon as strong as an angel that could rival even Beerus and force Whis into action.
David Vazquez do u know about the fusion of buu and uub
Put the Manga link on the description
What if I’m a new arc Goku and Jiren have to team up to defeat the demon who killed his parents? Then Jiren finally understands what his teacher was trying to teach him
5:38 it's the gamma flash burst or whatever it's called...I forget the definitive name but I know its not a galick gun
Why does no one talk about beerus and goku having a rematch
Because there's no reason for them to with the Broly and Galactic prisoner events currently happening rn
except ive done 3 videos on it.
Goku's to weak to match up with beerus without omen. Itll be just like fighting jiren - a complete slaughter
@@Geekdom101 bro you report EVERY damn thing i apprecuate it but i cant keep up lol
@@raphaeldonatello2817 i wouldnt say that beerys never fought ssb kaioken blah blah
Definitely preferred the anime version TOP over Manga, but I LOVED the Frieza Goku tag team at the end of the Manga there :) Also, the new arc is giving us a reason why they wrote Majin Buu to sleep, so thanks a good eating foreshadowing...who would have thought:D
Yeah, the Anime finale of the ToP was better. Goku and Frieza teaming up was much more epic.
unfortunately I have to agree on that
at around 5:45 vegeta is using "gamma burst flash" like he did in the goku black arc, not gallick gun
The end of the ToP in this chapter is trash. The new arc looks interesting at least
The anime did it justice ngl
8:07 oh look at that. An establishing shot 😁
Same results, but Anime executed better
I haven't watched your vids for a while but i am catching up and must say you have not lost a step.
Well done.
Wow, manga version is far better than anime.
Its sarcasm.
Never thought manga had any fanboys. Lol. Especially after this tournament arc.
Agree, it's Trash
@Hotcheetojuice HAHA. Yeah thats true.
Roshi goes super human 3 ultra omen instinct Kaioken in the next chapter and one shots Broly
Don't reveal the spoilers for the next manga arc bruhh!!! 😂
What if the elite time patroller guy has the time freeze ability like Gildo where time freezes for as long as he can hold his breath.
If Buu has to extract the kai then does that mean Buu will transform after?
that was that Gamma Burst (I think thats what its called he used it on Goku Black) not the Galick Gun Vegeta was doing.
Imo really like this story ending allot better. Makes it seem like team work and strategy were way more important.
Took tension out of it in the game the last fight everyone gave it there all goku barely could go ssj it was desperation and u felt it in the manga it looked like u7 stomped no tension and didnt once think U7 could loose
@@Cedricfilms yeah well we all knew u7 would win lol. The anime seemed way too long with the T.O.P arc like every single character had to have their own episode. And the end was just rushed.
Devin Renneberg How was the anime ending rushed and this manga ending isn’t with a “plan” that never was hinted at once before the reveal
@@ChrisJerico2 I'm just saying it seemed better to me just my opinion. I only liked a few episodes of the arc in the anime. It seemed to drag out forever and then when you wanted it to drag out. It just felt like it ended quickly or was rushed. I'm saying this chapter felt more like it was a plan like it had more team work. Don't get me wrong the anime visually was amazing at the end and goku and frieza teaming up was awesome. But idk I didn't really care for the T.O.P arc to much the goku black arc was my favriote Execpt for the ending lol
Devin Renneberg To each his own I guess, personally I enjoyed the anime because even if it was a little long, it gave shine to more people not named Goku Frieza or Jiren. Also the desperation was in full effect at the ending of the arc where you see Frieza losing his tail and Goku struggling to turn super sayin for one last push. Also the spontaneous of it all felt natural as if it’s a last ditch effort instead of the manga where the plan kinda comes outta thin air and never was hinted at. Not to mention how the Anime made UI look incredible and gave it the shine it deserves with a great drawback to keep from abuse, while in the manga it felt extremely lackluster and as just another new form
The biggest thing I was worried about was Super Broly wouldn't be cannon due to the skip into the next arc, but luckily that doesn't seem to be the case.
Come on guys Ultra Instinct Shaggy killed Jiren’s parents
Thank you for not spoiling the Broly movie for us fans that want to see it first! I really respect you for always giving us a heads up to turn the video off.
It was the gamma burst flash from the goku black arc, not the galick gun.
Love this format. We get to see the manga panels, the story, and your opinion, all at once
The anime did it better.
Nah
Yes it does 100 times at least.
It feels good to watch geekedom again. I’ve avoided the channel and even unsubscribed to avoid the Brody movies spoilers but I’m glad I was able to get your incite on this manga chapter senpai.
You’re invited to the next cookout bro
Where's Lilo?
Nani ll NANI?!
One of your better reviews! I’m happy the chapters are back!
I don't have the greatest DB knowledge, but when they separate the grand Kaioshin from Majin Buu, does it no turn him in the evil Buu or Kid Buu again? I just remember the few scenes from the DB manga where somebody tells the story of Buu and how Kid Buu was the original Buu.
Uub is kid buus reincarnation. It might turn him into either the skinny buu or the buu that was working out and I prefer that buu lol
*this is how it goes.*
If grand Kaioshin is extracted from him, he will turn into Buff Buu that had only South Kaioshin Absorbed. We saw a climpse of that form during Super Buu’s transformation to Kid Buu.
Nice geekdom ! Always on top with the dragonball info ! Appreciate all the work ya do for us
those who think jiren's parents wre killed by broly/goku black are the same whp thought hit's clones were in top
Don't forget black is future goten
18:13 i think he fire the blast at mr Satan's bullet not at mr Satan !
The show must go on! Gj for your neverending and indisputable dedication to your fans
Hey, technically, didn't Goku get killed by a demon when Piccolo killed him? Piccolo still counted as a villain back then, right?
Wasn’t Dabura a demon..? He killed Kibito but they were able to revive him
he's literally the king of the demons
Angels cannot revive who were killed by demons dragon balls can.
@@tushargore2955 score 1 for dragonballs
Pretty sure this what Geekdom was talking about when he said it’s been retconned
Wasn't dabura demonized and once upon a time a good beeing?
How did jiren get his shirt back? 11:05
That was no galick gun it was gamma burst flash
I don’t know why but when you said “Out of a rock here comes android 17” I died laughing 😂
19:19 Lol this didn't age well
I’m glad I subbed to you, which is something I rarely do nowadays.
Goku was not trying to do a suplex, but just hold Jiren in place to prevent him from escaping the Death Ball.
While preparing to take the hit in the process. Just like when the Special Beam Cannon was used against both Radutz and Goku in Z.
Also Vegeta used the Manga exclusive Gamma Burst Flash not Galick Gun. During the beam combo with Goku's kamehameha. You can tell by the hands and arm postions.
I call foul on the fact that Android 17 "did not do anything" during the T.O.P. While not when against Jiren, but he made a lot elimnations via K.O. throughout.
Also Goku not using or even able to acess the U.I./M.U.I. since the T.O.P. is not a spoiler. It was stated at the end of DBS Anime ending. Along with interviews.
The way that Goku obtained MUI means he should be able to activate it at will since all he did was think about then he used it lol.
@@MrMidnight007 that's what I don't understand as well.
The way he use it for his final fight against Jiren make him seems he can turn it on and off.
6:13 toyotaro didn't use reaction shots? Bruh reaction shot is his middle name by now
I can’t lie, I like this ending. But I like both. It’s a toss up for me.
Me too.
Doesnt have to be a choice my dude i enjoyed both
My boy 17 pulled an Edge at the Royal Rumble
"when your shirt comes off you know its time to get serious" so true, ahah
Wait, tf. So jirens master was HELLA old. Like millions because vermouth has been A G.O.D. for like 11 million years lmao
trevaren coleman yeah dude call him the Jurassic man
So is Jiren old?
Idk, this shit is sloppy honestly lmao. If vermouth became a God because of his master that means jirens master is older than him meaning jiren gotta be old as shit too.
Also if Jirens master was friends with Belmoud, then he had to have been strong.. so this demon must be pretty strong.. but where the fuck was belmoud in all this?
Maybe his master WAS something like a G. O. D
Hey Geekdom, just a suggestion.
Many comics related channels on YT add filters and cover any word balloons, and these seem to prevent copyright issues.
Hope this helps.
Oh boy, that new arc looks suuuuuper interesting.
LOL this arc, man...
Oh snapp! I dont think it was the Galick Gun at 5:41
Maybe it was the "Gamma burst flash" that he used against the two Zamasus in the manga
Geekdom. We've seen being wiped away permanently before in DB. Hakai does that, right?!
Yes.
Hopefully filmimg it works out. Maybe put a blur filter over the comic. Not too blurry but enough so you can kinda make it out, but enough to keep any strike issues away.
Jiren's defeat in the manga in my opinion is extremely bad it's just so rushed and then to top it all off Goku and Vegeta get knocked out unconscious with some type of "gun" like wtf these two are god level a gun shouldn't even graze them let alone knock them out
Well goku also almost die on laser gun too in the movie even the farmer was able to hurt him its inconsistent in power level.
Super Nieva if you aren’t on guard you’ll get injured, the way you defend yourself is with ki. So if you’re off guard you will get injured
@@UmbraJoy Kid Goku took a bullet to the head and it didn't even leave a mark
HailedSpace25 He was on guard at that moment I believe
@@hailedspace25 didn't Goku get bruised by a bullet in the anime when he was being robbed?
The double fist move Freeza does is called the Nova Strike. It’s also known as the Death Crasher
Would broly still be featured in the Manga? How did the movie end Anyw? Broly died?
@@Mad_Beefs wait. So Gogeta is now Canon? :O
Yep, and as far as i heard, Gogeta vs Broly isn't short, and it will contain some of the most impressive animation. Also he'll be in base, Ssj form and ssb form, and Broly this time turned lssj and went apeship cause Frieza killed Paragus
Gogeta and Broly are both canon now and I'm sure we'll see Broly again, maybe in this new saga.
Broly and Gogeta now being Canon hmm..
Hope that SS4 would be Canon making it above SSB and close to Ultrainstinct level and that Janemba could soon be Canon too
Broly, Gogeta, ssj4 Gogeta and Janemba are my top favorite dragonball chars lol
+1 To make ssj4 Canon!
If Ssj4 would be Canon,
Then ssj4 's red hair explanation could be being in super Saiyan God which would consume less stamina and also beyond super Saiyan blue power.
+Final Kamehameha x100
Thanks for your objective review Geekdom! I thought this time you actually said the good and bad things about the manga, rather than just the latter. I liked both the anime and manga versions - each had their pluses. The anime version was more dramatic and entertaining as Goku and Freeza teaming up against Jiren was amazing. However, I agree that it made MUCH more sense that Android 17 was hiding because nobody could sense his ki and that he couldn't have self-destructed since his bomb was removed. The anesthesia guns working on Goku and Vegeta was weird, but oddly funny and in-line with Toriyama's wacky sense of humor.
Anime was better don’t @ me
Who's gonna disagree with you? XD The Anime version was superior
Ī Shinron nope
@Ī Shinron lol good one
@ you. Wut now!
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