Priest making Demon Hunter Even More Broken
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Rarran went from "DH is ok, but a bit memey" to "I hate my life" in just one day. Can't wait to watch the first guy to be defeated by triple 1-mana Aranna on a Trolden video.
Brain masseuse is scary, but think about how good it’s going to feel to gain 20 armor in a turn and shield slam it
That won't happen. Its either a Combo Piece or early aggression .
This set's gonna be EXTRA tilting
Really I think the power level is weaker. They want a slower game with locations and cards that draw.
I'm still gonna play face demon hunter and face mage though. Face is the place.
And aggro shaman. Spells? What spells
@@peshomighty5051 yeah I've seen very few "100% this card is being played and is good" (besides tourists) cards in this set, or at least way less than in Whizbang.
As a degen, I loved the reinvented "Shadow Priest" with Benedictus. The DemonHunter/Priest hybrid feels like the extension of that.
I'm currently playing shadow pirate priest on wild ladder and I am so hyped for these cards.
are they doing a cthun thing where they give you the tourists free? because if not this seems so tilting for f2p players, like you're totally locked out of the core mechanic of the set until you open 10-50 packs
Yeah the concept is really cool but this absolutely has the potential to make the set MEGA expensive. I expect they will give each player 1 free tourist, and that's it
They’re not doing the c’thun thing no.
i always just focus on 1 class
The crazy thing about Vul'Jin in my opinion that its useful even when your opponent doesnt have a big minion but you have a big one and a small one, and you basically just attack with the big one first, then swap its stats with the small one and you just almost doubled you dmg. Or even better, you just have the small one on board you play the big minion in hand and you technically have Charge with -×/-× (the stats of the small minion). And this also works with Res in Peace, or any other card that summons either for you or your opponent.
I dont know how often these are gonna happen but it just gives more variebility nonthelesss.
Soothfancy is so sick. Basically Future Sight from Magic but only usable twice.
Just wanna point out that Priest and DH don't have even a quarter of the self damage Warlock does.
there are enough tools in neutral to make it viable
Demon hunter has litteralt a one mana hero power to attack things it can always self damage if they opponent plays minions
@@HDGaminTutorials people seem to forget demon hunter probably has the most OP self damage tool with that, Warlock with an easy to obtain weapon that isn't just 0 Attack would be broken
I've been playing standard overheal midrange, and the only card from this expac that I've been considering putting in is the hunter tourist. so far, the card's havent been played with yet.
if the priest tourist cant target itself its basically the paladin legendary that says: Set a minions attack and health to 3
i hope it can bc then it would be reeeeally good
No, Vol'jin cannot target itself. There is no battlecry in the game that can target itself
@@Alter292If it can't target self then the problem is it needs setup.
God damn though. That voljin is an utter monster. Summon 1 tiny minion and one huge minion, easily do 20 dmg face for 3 mana. Or 6-7 mana summon a tiny body and the 3 mana big boy summoner card.
Also, just to help the cancer of ladder. Aranna will be changed to say "damage taken to face will bounce to enemies" or whatever hearthstone lingo would say. Basic meaning is that you still take dmg but so does the ememy instead on just having better demon seed.
Play "Rest in peace" twice for double Araana
what deck are you going to play when perils in paradise comes out?
I'm gonna play face volley maul mage. Second is 2 frost death Knight (Eliza goreblade, Frostbitten freebooter and Quartzite crusher)
Uh third is shaman(the different spells seams bad so I'm going bloodlust burn windfury like 2012) and Big spell druid/mage.
Sailboat captain gives a pirate windfury. That's the card for my shaman deck.
Play Elite Tauren Champion, play the rock duel for a while then at a turn clear your opponent's board and summon Aranna and that rock damage will hit your opponent.
I am gonna try this in Highlander DH, since I can discount stuff with the Titan.
Voljin a small charge minion/or just a 1/1 thats left alive on board, into one of their huge minions, easy extra lethal reach punishment for them playing a big minion.
OMG
If you play Narain and then the "your top card costs 1"- card you see what your card is and it costs 1
Btw this resets, meaning you could just wait for your most expensive card and play it 3 times for 1 mana
i just love that hearthstone dev team really said if you control a board with a big minion against demon hunter he will kill it and also deal damage to you equal to your minions damage, just throw board control out the window
Shadow priest in wild is currently capable of turn 3 lethals with excess damage. This is looking very scary
That Aranna fatigue wincon could fit into a highlander deck maybw
Isnt sauna regular just corridor creeper?
0 mana 5/5
Sensory deprivation is an insane card. 6 mana mind control has to be good.
Power Chord: Synchronize and the Titan Forge "Get two copies of a minion ion your deck" and your opponent will never have anything impactful on the board.
Nice
Brain masseuse makes shaman titan deal 20 to face at 6 mana
Yeah Ashtongue Slayer was already a 1/4 demon and 100% unplayable because of how often you just die to a random shield slam
Yeah people are freaking out about Brain Masseuse but it really only works in extremely hard aggro and even then only as a turn 1 or 2 play. Any later and you’re gonna get smacked in the face for some heavy damage by cheap minion-only burn or a rush minion.
@@MinoriGaming yeah it only works in extreme aggro, but neither class really has a good foundation for an aggro deck that wants this. Priest definetly doesn't want it unless hunter's cards turn out to be good, but I doubt it. DH is the scariest class for it, but honestly DH has way scarier 1 mana minions like sockpuppet or sigil runner (outcast decks are DH most aggresive archetype RN).
edit: Arnanna decks could exist but I don't think its a good card in those decks either since it doesn't have rush its just too big of risk to play on turn 8/9 when you start your combo.
@@mees7920 Yeah my thoughts exactly. Priest doesn't have the aggro foundation for this and Demon Hunter's better off with Sockpuppet Slitherspear or Battlefiend, both of whome have comparable statlines without a drawback.
The drink is a self-damage card that sticks around, which is great because they gave the self-damage cards to the healing class, for some ungodly reason
Sorry if I’m being dumb but why would priest want to use the cards that take self damage? Is there a pay off or is it more just so aggro priest might be a thing using the hunter cards
the 5 mana minion is the only payoff, so not really besides the cards being good enough to be playable, both classes do have ample healing so its really not that bad (note: we haven't seen hunter cards yet).
But yeah these cards were mainly for desinged Aranna DH decks, but I think the fatigue strat that rarran mentioned is going to be the best combo with that card.
@@mees7920thank you for the response ❤
@mees7920 there's no shot the fatigue glaivetar deck will be good. You lose to aggro and every other slow deck is going to ooze your draw 9 weapon so you kill yourself (in game).
Rest in peace means that zookeeper has a use in standard as a tech card
Rest in peace makes otk priest insane you can just ressuect ha danis at full health for 3 mana its going to he pretty nuts
I'm really excited for Hearthstone to embrace the concept of "Houses" (MtG obviously formalized this with "Guilds") - beyond the multi-class cards from before which felt like "splashing" another color, the 'Tourist' keyword feels more like defined structure.
rarran i can’t see the flavor text :’(
there's no way rarran says the 6 mana spell is too slow, it's literally yogg saron on a spell, that you can play 3 turn earlier, how it's slow?
I don't think it's that comparable to Yogg. In certain matchups this is definitely better since it comes down 3 turns earlier, but in others Yogg is so much better. For one, against wider decks stealing a minion is worthless and you want to use the insanity mode instead, and two, one of the more common steal targets is the Zilliax with 20 keywords, one of which is Elusive, and Yogg can steal it where this is completely dead. Plus of course there's the less than 20 health clause but idk I don't really think that's as big a deal as the other points. Overall I think sensory depravation is maybe good, especially if self damage priest/DH ends up being good, but I don't think it's really comparable to Yogg.
It can’t hit Zilliax. Zilliax is the main reason Yogg is so universal at the moment.
Others also didn't mention the fact that the spell kills the minion, meaning it procs deathrattles and works with other cards that interact with dead creatures.
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otk with spell power, coals to clear the borad (also does some cheap damage) and arana xd
Bro when you said good hunter cards I cried I can't wait till the expansion comes out wish I could afford it
Okay but real thing to talk about: Demon Hunters can now play tennis with their mirror matches
The whole "fatigue" idea with Aranna is definitely some Disneyland stuff I'm sorry. Your going to build a like draw 8 Glaivetar and then get hit with an ooze the turn before you swing to break it and just die yourself.
Feel like just pure aggro demon hunter’s gonna be miserable to play against
So when are they going to show the priest cards? O ly saw DH cards here
The Demon Hunter Tourist KYS build is gonna be nuts. Talk about edgey class
Hi Rarran I was the one that saw that Aranna Synergy with fatigue on Twitter
Love your videos
What, you want a medal?
We're so back
Blizzard over here turning DH and Priest into warlock for this expansion
I am a bit confused, this say hunter tourist what does demon hunter have to do with this!!!!!!????? Its card that a hunter can use + priest
Priest drink seems good more so its 3 ways to take damage on commsnd more or less to guarentee damage procs
Its ok there's no way they could go to fatigue that fast.
Demon hunter well known for its poor draw :^)
One snake and you are dead by your own weapon
@@DinantZ if every deck ends up running viper to counter combo DH, DH will almost certainly be nerfed anyways, so its quite a moot point. The real problem for aranna DH is the potential for aggro decks to just kill it.
@@mees7920 That's hearthstone for you. Remember stickyfinger or skulking geist? Or even steam cleaner? People run bad cards just for the 1/20 games where they feel good.
They printed a lot of DH cards with white backgrounds for some reason
Man good thing I absolutely gave up on ranked ladder 6 months ago! Battlegrounds duos is just a better balances enjoyable game mode at this point.
The priest identity feels completely lost in these cards... Personally i find it hard to imagine masochist priest being played over some combo/hypervalue deck
When every class is broken, it should be fine, right
Rest In Peace and it summons yogg and you steal your opponents highest cost minion you just summoned, or run Aman'thul to delete the minion you summon for opponent + an additional enemy minion and keep the 3 mana Aman'thul.
I guess I'm playing DH when the expansion hits.
Hot Coals is so broken with spell damage...
~My Prediction is that the DH Aranna otk will not work because it'll be too slow, you'll be better off killing your opponent rushing them down, I think a hybrid strategy will work, but it'll feel miserable to draw Aranna on opening hand and people will just cut it... unless the priest cards are good enough.
~~Also all of this only works after the Windfury pirate nerf.
I think Hot Coals is the sleeper card (at least compared to all these combo decks), a lot of DH decks pre patch already played Going Down Swinging which is an ever so slightly worse card in the early game.
I'd rather have bubbler than brainmasseuse
I can't wait to play suicide priest
If fatigue DH is a viable and good deck, there will be tears at some point
6 mana mind control
I dont really think DH is gonna be thaf bad personally. You can try to set up your janky combo kill, and I'll just beat you down with agro on turn 5.
Fr. Arrana will be no where near as broken as demon seed. Arrana isn’t a win condition card unless you literally built an entire combo for it
imo "Brain Masseuse" is broken
I still think you’re overvaluing Aranna because you’re scared of the demon seed. The demon seed is a permanent effect that cannot be interacted with, Aranna is a 5/6 that can be cleared for 4 mana, it’s far worse than the demon seed.
You also can't interact with the Demon Seed winning by fatigue. Rarran will call other combos Disneyland yet he's pretending like you'll be able to build a like draw 10 Glaivetar and have it not get oozed so you kill yourself (in game).
very good content
Arnt even priest cards
demon seed was permanent effect, but enemy can just kill aranna, and thet is all
The effect is also only active while Aranna is on board. PLEASE build a big Glaivetar so I can viper it at like draw 10 and you just blow yourself up before Aranna hits the board.
so I don't know, but aren't the tourist cards the only cards that go to the other class? everytime i watch these reviews from rarran. He is just including all of the cards in the set going to the other class. which doesn't seem correct. But I don't know as I've not actually been keeping up.
Every class' card pool is effectively:
Their own 10 cards
All the cards in the class of the tourist in their class besides the tourist that is in the other class
Their own tourist
Using DH as an example the 20 class cards DH has access to are:
The 10 DH cards
9 Priest cards (everything besides Voljin as he is the Hunter Tourist)
The DH Tourist minion that is in Shaman
It's effectively dual class cards but on a one way street.
Day 17 of asking Rarran to play Griftlands
Yeah arrana is theoretically scary until someone dirty rats it and the entire “ I draw my entire deck to fatigue and kill my opponent.” Is gone
the new 3 mana rez spell that was talked about and discussed in the video?
@@mees7920 then the aggro decks will just kill you before you can res the card and before your entire deck is gone
Tiltran
Instant hate sauna regular, stop printing these mana cheat giant-style cards. This is one of the reasons the current meta is where it is.
the only one that is being played RN is Fye, so no its not.
You're acting like the card is insane. It's really only playable in DH and even then a like 2 mana 5/5 taunt on turn 5 isn't the most insane card in the world. Druid has a 0 mana 4/5 taunt on turn 4 or later and it isn't the most obnoxious card they have (it's more of a problem when it's gaining you 3 mana if drawn off Dorian).
not playing hs for the nest 3 months this set is so ass
Torille!