I can get on borad with that. I never call ppl "minorities". It really seems to come from the Left of the isle and it's like they think of black and brown folks as monoliths and not individuals. It's kind of gross.
That's woke in a nutshell, a "care-more-than-thou: sense of moral superiority without any actual logic behind it. These losers are incapable of having a real argument or logical discussion, because it always just boils down to them saying 'you're a racist bigot if you don't agree with me!'
They are handed what they are told is the "correct" opinion and are told not to question it or they're evil is so many different ways. That's why none of them can defend their positions.
@@UrzliBoy Its the same ideology that made people turn each other into the KGB during the soviet union era. Do what the establishment says or you're evil.
There’s some data that shows that the students that drop out overwhelmingly never return to school. That makes me so sad. The students may have been better off going to state school vs. washing out at a “name brand” school. Just more ammo for the “victim mentality “.
Yep as Sowell says you are taking a bunch of students who are in the top quartile and would excel at most colleges, and sending them to places like MIT where they are bound to fail. The data all shows this to be true. And it happens with average students and everyone else too. It’s a failing methodology. If it worked, we wouldn’t need it anymore after a generation or two. Yet no AA policy has ever met its deadline, and the failure is instead just used as evidence that we need more affirmative action!
My mother got into engineering school in 1970. Before affirmative action. She was a "minority". She lied about her sex to get in. But when they realized that she was qualified and she had been accepted they let her in. She even changed many professors minds on female students. Simply by being good at what she did. Affirmative action would have just meant she didn't have to be good. That those men didn't need to change their minds. Did they just passed the girl along. Affirmative action would have hurt my mother.
"It helps them (blacks) get the education that they need to do well in this economy..." Yeah, they're really going to do well with a degree in ethnic studies.
Thomas sowell has argued that lowering test scores for black people to get into college is not only condescending and offensive but it actually hurts them. Black people who wuld do perfectly well at a smaller or community college instead are going to high stress high demand schools and are not able to keep up and in some cases drop out. Lowering standards doesn't help anyone. Like California did wrh math scores. They lowered the level required for competency and pass people through. Yea on the stats more people are passing math classes but that doesn't mean they understand it. Same thing with physical fitness for police and basic fitness tests for women in military service. It may be more diverse but you get a lower quality product in all areas. It's self evident.
Kudos to the kid for sitting down and having a conversation with someone he didn’t agree with. He’s regurgitating the crap someone told him instead of thinking for himself. Hopefully this opens his eyes to seeking the truth as opposed to listening to what others tell him to do. Critical thinking is so important!
That's true. I've seen so many people that just absolutely refuse to engage with intellectual honesty because either can't, or they are too filled with hate and anger to do so.
Agreed, he seems like the type to wake up and drop this ideology as he matures. We can all be wrong sometimes, but must be open minded to new information
Lol, "we're being unfair to be fair." Same "logic" as them being racist to stop racism. It's all about making their own racist bigotry socially acceptable because they miss them good ol' days of the clan.
@@christinepeterson8097yes it is. If it’s not the same across the board its not a standard and treating people differently based on race is not only illegal and immoral but its the exact opposite of what people like MLK fought for
@@RapidRedRider I would agree with you. I was asking Andre because he seems to think that having different standards for different races is not racist. And then not backing it up with an argument but just calling people names.
There are millions of open trades jobs. You do not need a university education to make 6 figures. What you need it to not be a lazy perpetual victim and you can do very well in life.
I just paid a man $300 to clean my chimney and it took him less than an hour. If he did six houses a day, which I'm pretty sure he does because he was in a hurry to leave, He's going to be making at least $1,800 a day. He doesn't have a college education, or actually spoke about that with him. Don't let school interfere with your education.
One of my best friends was an electrician, something like 20 years ago before he got fed up and just stopped. He went like 15 years without an actual job, just doing side work, everything from electrical to mechanical. Those jobs, everyone that has gone to college for are the one's that are easily replaced by AI because they typically don't require hands-on. Several friends that went to college freaking out over AI, my electrician friend is still just jobbing away with no cares.
The Irony though is that MLK saying "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today." Would be considered racist by those who believe that Affirmative Action is necessary.
@@Ron-d2s you are an example of a leftist who rejects his wisdom because it does not fit your communist ideals. And if I’m correct, and you are a communist, then you are just a useful idiot for the globalists.
Here's a suggestion, remove race and gender from all applications. School admissions and Job hiring should be based solely on merit and experience. If there is a concern that any particular group appears disadvantaged, it would make sense for schools (K-12), to have curriculums that prepares student for college, if they choose to go. Students that excel at an above average rate belong in Ivy League schools. If a student, regardless of race and economic background, chooses to not take school seriously and don't perform well or meet the standard, then you don't deserve admission to a school. Affirmative action should be completely abolished. Sometimes obstacles causes people to buckle down and work harder or create their own. This is what black people did after slavery. I love how liberal thinking people completely ignore the Reconstruction era and jump straight to Jim Crow and the civil rights era.
The problem is that the same people saying that the system is racist, would argue that you would have to remove any personal information about somebody. They would get together with all their liberal scientist buddies and publish a faulty research article that would receive nationwide, recognition by the media stating that colleges use a student’s name, income, address, etc. to assume their race and discriminate against them. it’s the exact same chain of events that led to affirmative action being created.
@@indianatarzan8001 I agree. I think that if a student that comes from a poor background meets the academic standards of the school admission then, it I would be okay with some sort of scholarship or grant for that student. I don't know if I would call it affirmative action. I think it should be judged on a case by case basis as well as available funding. There should be some criteria set in place that requires the student to earn that financial assistance on some level; whether it's through work study, volunteer, or whatever measures that make sense.
It used to be called positive discrimination which is discrimination. They changed the term to affirmative action to remove the word discrimination but it still is. Lowering the standards because of the colour of your skin.
I don't know about the other person, but I find the process you're describing--both affirmative action itself and the changing of the term to something softer--to be insulting.
History is full of dark, offensive moments. The problem is that people are hiding them, or twisting the truth about them so it doesn't look as bad. The saying goes, those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. It is important to learn the painful, uncomfortable, disturbing, embarrassing (and whatever else you may want to call it) moments of history. To talk about why they are wrong, to make sure they never happen again, and to teach them so those who come after us don't do it either. We can't erase the past, no matter how much some would love to do so.
Great point about the assumption that all black people have a linage of slavery in the US, my brother in law has a good friend who is a black man here in the south, who is Canadian, who has often commented to me that he has no cultural connection the local southern black slave descendants. As while he may have slaves in his family history, his ancestors had been free people from long before the US civil war.
More than 40 years ago a (white) relative of mine was passed over for a job for which he was very well qualified. They told him to his face they needed to hire a Hispanic. And about 30 years ago I knew of a young woman who was half British Isles (English, Scottish, Irish), 3/8 Hispanic, and 1/8 Navajo. She applied to a state university (which to my knowledge pretty much admitted everybody), listing herself as Hispanic--and was turned down. She reapplied with the exact same grades and transcripts but listed herself as Navajo, and they could not wait to admit her.
Around 20 years ago or so a friend was trying to get her white daughter into modeling and one of the companies rejected her because she wasn’t ‘ethnic’ enough.
Same here -- or solid possibility at least hahaha -- mlnls and GenZ think that they are responsible for bringing about this type of "CHANGE" -- but it was going on back then as well. Back then I was all for it, now it just feels superficial, or being done for all the wrong reasons. Ridiculous.@spaceace1006
A hundred + years ago, an equally qualified Blonde blue-eyed Irish or Polish legal immigrant was less likely to get the job, than an American who looked just like them, because of their accent or having a surname that ended in a vowel, instead of consonant. Some people will ALWAYS find a reason...
You're not bringing those communities UP, you're bringing American standards DOWN. Like divisions in sports. If a last place team keeps moving up the standings because the 1st and 2nd and 3rd place teams keep losing, the last place team isn't really getting better. Not compared to other divisions (countries) where the standards are higher because the 1st place teams keep winning. Maybe a far-fetched analogy to some people but not really. This comment was supposed to be made on the main comment section. Not this thread but whatever.
Isn't affirmative action kind of like replacing farmers with people who knows nothing about farming. At least in both scenarios you end up with people who are incapable of doing what they are expected to be capable of.
No it is not. It is like replacing a farmer with another farmer that is not quite as capable of 100% yield from that farm. One that has proven to have less skills.
9:53 I was thinking a couple minutes ago that the student was referring to the black people like one would refer to educating a child. That is the democrat in him.
Coddling and hand-outs behaviour requiring no discipline and accountability. That’s how you destroy a group of people, by treating them like perpetual children.
In 1973, I started looking for a new company to work for, instead of ATT, because ATT had just signed an agreement with the Department of Labor, essentially, stating they would not discriminate against anyone EXCEPT WHITE, MALE, COLLEGE GRADUATES. I had been passed over for promotion, twice, in favor of “people of color.” Reverse discrimination is just as wrong as discrimination!
@clintcooper923 it's not reverse discrimination. it's just discrimination. Sorry that happened to you. But for some reason people today think it only applied to education. I din5 get how people don't see it as racist discrimination on hoth work and education.
Even as a minority I was once denied a promotion because across the organization they wanted an equal number of specific minority groups at each level. Since they had already met their number of hispanic people they promoted other minorities. My wife at the time and I went to the local government office (I don't even remember which agency) to discuss. When I showed them evidence. I had an actual screenshot since I couldnt email the document to myself externally. They looked at and told me that it didnt look discriminatory because they were trying to make things equal. Equal opportunity and equal outcome arent the same. People today seem to be wanting equal outcome.
Need to stop using the word “minority”. What are we saying when we say it? That they’re not white? I’m brown according to the mirror and other’s eyes but I refuse to be called a minority… I’m a human being not just a color or ethnicity.
They think listening is the same as thinking. It's only getting worse, little kids today only sit and stare at tablets. They aren't doing brain developing creative things like drawing and coloring or building things.
One of the last of the Boomers here: Affirmative action originally was meant to be a course-correction after the Civil Rights act was passed in the 1960's. The idea was since Blacks had been excluded from certain pursuits, a concerted effort was needed to make "X" more equitable. Equity, I hold is antithetical to equal opportunity. This fundraising commercial, ubiquitous in the 70's "The United Negro College Fund: Because a mind is a terrible thing to waste," says a ton, both as to where we were then and where we are now.
Not a correction more like. Political stance for the dems to get votes and they still ride that coattail Unless you’re in your 80’s plus you’re not a boomer
At the time of the civil rights movement people already lived together in peace and black peoples were flourishing in their respective communities. But they just had to continue giving handouts and ruining the accountability and discipline these communities have! I believe Affirmative Action was WRONG.
That's a good point. That's why I think all the efforts of affirmative action should be directed at young black youth in grade school where it doesn't effect others negatively. Just help get more young black youth in school and help them stay away from crime. The funds could even be given to black owned organizations monitored by the gov to help kids get out of dangerous situations and into healthy loving situations that give them drive to be better. Then there would be no need for affirmative action in college and job opportunities.
I can’t imagine that as a black student who absolutely slays that it feels good to know that everyone knows that the bar was lower for them. Even if they did get that 99% on the sat, some will always consider “affirmative action”, “diversity hire” despite their excellence.
First of all no-one was murdered "slays" second of all they have NO excellence within them that's why they HAVE to have aa btw it's lowered keep showing the lack of excellence and education.
Sadly that’s always going to be people’s 1st assumption as well, no matter how smart or qualified, the black candidate is going to have to prove competency twice as much as anyone else, to the people working under them, because everyone’s assumption is diversity hire, even when that’s not the case.
He completely fell off the cliff when he said, "You have to a Masters Degree to basically get a minimum wage job." WTF? Isn't that a self-defeating sentence?
Yeah he believes everything he's told. It's easy to get a job that isn't minimum wage. It's about what you look for and are willing to do at a workplace
That math blew my mind! More people came out of internment camps than went in.. the only scenario that could make that statement possible, is if there were more babies born inside internment camps, than people who died in them..
@@DAVID-io9njDo you what internment camps were? There were camps for women and there were camps for men. So evidently they didn't have children which would have been the only way there could come out more people of the internment camps than went in. Most people didn't come out anyway. They were gassed, starved to death or worked untill they died of fatigue or diseases. Slave owners had an interest in keeping their slaves alive, and more babies meant more property for the slaveowner, so he would have welcomed that. I do not condone slavery but it is important to look at peoples motives.
@@ankavoskuilen1725 I believe he was talking about the internment camps of Japanese in America. Not the death camps in German controlled territory. And I repeat,how is that factoid pertinent to the subject matter of affirmative action? This guy used that "fact" to negate the internment camp experience of Japanese in America.
2:54 If you don’t understand I will try to explain in just a couple sentences: Essentially it is setting the bar at different levels for people based on their race in order to artificially change the demographics in a university or in an industry, in government or in a company. Using the example of what is happening at Harvard, black students need only an 1100 to gain admission, while white students need a 1310 and Asian students need a 1350 (for women, Asian males need even higher). Latinos were required to have a score slightly higher than black students. This results in many white and Asian applicants who were very qualified being denied entrance while many black and Latino applicant who were not qualified are given their spots.
College is simply gatekeeping, but creative hard-working individuals will always prosper. The fact you have so many people watching your videos is testament to that. Congratulations on your future success.
Good points as usual! I recommend continuing to watch more "Crowder change my mind" videos, I l've learned a lot from them over the years! Btw, those #s that Crowder cited, for average SAT scores required to get into an Ivy league, by race- Asian 1350/White 1310/Black 1100 are similar to MCAT/GPA for med school admissions! (I'm a med student). I mentioned this in another of your videos, but yeah... it's definitely unfair! At the end of the day, success comes down to parenting/mindset/culture! Also, Dr. Thomas Sowell talks about the negative effects of Affirmation Action, such as mismatching, drop outs, etc., as Crowder alluded to!
I've been watching a couple of your videos lately, they just happen'd to come to my feed from all the other channles I follow or watch. I must say, it genuinely makes me happy to see a young man like you thinking for yourself and seeing what is what, drawing your own conclusions and from what I've seen, always open to the argumentation, even if you disagree with the points presented. Gives hope to me that the Western Civilization still can be saved. Yes, I literally mean the whole Western Civilization, these topics you are tackling are not a USA problem, they plague the Western World has a whole, It's hard to say where and when this all started, but it is atleast as old as the 60's in the US and spreaded like a wildfire. I will give you my own side of the coin here, I am not from the US, nor have I ever lived near the US, I hail from the land of diversity, the most diverse country in the world, Brazil, and for some reason unbekown to me, for the past thirteen to fourteen years the racial struggle and gender war agenda has been forced down my nation's throat, a movement in the mold of the MBL rised and ever since then the media and the whole leftist section push this racial war that never existed in the country, for God's sake, yes, we had slavery here in Brazil, but it was in no way as deshuman has it's portrayed, even during the active years of slavery we had some very rich black people, one of the biggest literature authors of the country from that era is black, and even the slavery system had norms that allowed a slave to buy themselves out of slavery (which, mind you, led to some former slaves acquiring their freedom and buying slaves for themselves), but that is not the problem, the problem is that these people try and sell the idea that the government at the time was racist and pro slavery, when in reality, the at time Emperor of Brazil fought his whole life, from when he took power at the age of 16 to the day he died at 66 years old for the abolition of slavery, and he only managed such a thing at the end of his life, when a coup de etat took him out of power and he didn't fight back the only thing he did was require for slavery to be outright outlawed in the Country and he would step out of the Throne, and that is how slavery ended here. The craziest thing is, the people who claim to defend minorities and push the whole left agenda ARE the people that prevented the Emperor at the time from outlawing slavery, are the same people that took him out of power and are the same people that robbed this country ever since. What I want to say with all of this is, and I apologize for extending myself onto some completely different reality, history is the biggest teacher you can have, if you learn from history you will know exactly what is happening current and what will happen in the future and you will know when it is a bad or good thing, the person who knows their history, not only their country, but the whole foundations of the cultural background in which his country was raised on will never be manipulated by anyone. Best of luck and keep it up, as my father always told me since I was little: "They can rob you of everything you own, they can take everything you built, but they will NEVER be able to rob or take away your knowledge"
Are they going to volunteer to have the doctor who got lower grades operate on them??? Let’s follow this thinking to it’s conclusion! Far out! So stupid!
This actually happened at the medical school in my state. Two white students were not admitted to the medical school. Both carried a 4.0 grade point average. Two black students were admitted. One carried a 2.0 and the other was lower than that. It made the local news, but was 1 short story and not covered nationally. People were using your exact analogy when talking about it, which is why I remember it so well. Those 2 students, who worked hard get those good grades to be one of the limited number of students being admitted to the medical school, most likely would have done well. We'll never know because this happened in the early 1990's and was never heard about again. It took a supreme court ruling in 2003 for that same state college to stop using affirmative action on undergraduate admissions, but it was still ruled affirmative action would be used for the law school admissions.
Man, this is what needs to happen. Universities require 1300 on SAT to get in, period. Community colleges require 1150 SAT to get in, period. Obviously something around these scores, and of course, the respective ACT scores. I've never understood racial discrimination. One of my best friends, who I call brother, is black (I'm white,) and we throw racist jokes at each other all the time in good fun and have good laughs (subconsciously making a mockery of actual racists, which is absolutely hilarious.) It's all about whether people have a negative or positive outlook on life and on people. LOVE people, and understand that humans are simply humans, period! A good person is a good person and a bad person is a bad person. I don't mind the use of the word "minority" because, definitively speaking, since whites make up the majority percentage of the population, technically every other race is, definitively, the minority. The problem lies with how society has twisted words to have a negative connotation (and positive for some.) This is the same reason I said years ago that I don't believe in today's society's loose definition of depression. Yes, depression absolutely, 100% exists, and my best friend and his mother has been diagnosed with it. Depression is a mental disability, literally and definitively. Just because someone says, "I don't want to do anything, and I'm feeling sad," does NOT mean you are depressed. Go outside, do something active, and drink more water (percentage-wise anyway,) and I can pretty much guarantee you'll feel like a different person who does NOT have depression. People like this that claim to have depression actually severely downplays REAL, diagnosable depression, and it's totally unfair to them, because people won't take it as seriously. Rant done, but I love your videos man
Dude more people came out of the camps than went in? He makes it sound like a hippy love fest breeding farm. That can’t be right. I don’t think that little boy understands the context of the discussion.
The saddest part about these college students is that you could give them all the facts to disprove their beliefs but they still won’t change their viewpoint. This is why we need to change the legal voting age to 25 so at least peoples brains have fully developed and they’re able to reason more logically 😂
It's not an age thing. It's a leftist thing. The fully grown leftists do the same thing. It goes way, way back. The soviets and Maoists would literally deny a famine was happening as they starved millions.
@@radagast7200 probably like those super maga hicks that'll believe anything conservatives or Trump says. Many people unfortunately believe anything the media pushes if its convincing enough
"have to have a masters degree to get a minimum wage job", I suppose with some of the fields of study offering degrees that have no use on the job a masters degree may be necessary to compensate for a undergraduate degree that shows you have no common sense.
As an engineer of over 40 years, I used very little of what I learned in college. Look for an apprentice job working with engineers. Do it for free if you have to. Good luck. I loved inventing and making things
The degree secures the interview. I started my technical career as a reactor operator aboard US submarines. Safter honorable discharge I acquired a Bachelor of Science degree in Mathematics. My education and training in nuclear school was akin to a comprehensive two-year technical program. So, I put in the studies required to be an engineer without that specific degree. In a way, like an extended apprenticeship. Transitioning into design engineering was facilitated by my commitment to securing technical positions and diligently expressing my innovative ideas in every professional setting. This endeavor culminated in the acquisition of seven patents, a testament to my dedication and ingenuity. My message to aspiring engineers is to immerse oneself in the field, even if it entails starting with modest compensation. Demonstrating one's capabilities early on is paramount. Embracing challenging assignments, volunteering for less desirable tasks, and exhibiting a strong work ethic are key to making a lasting impression within a company. The landscape of engineering has evolved since my inception into the profession in the 1970s, with a shift from engineer-centric dynamics to greater influence from financial considerations. Navigating the complexities of one's engineering career has become markedly more challenging as a result. Nonetheless, the perpetual demand for engineers underscores the indispensability of the profession-a fact reflected in the myriad engineered marvels that surround us. Even in retirement, my passion for engineering endures, as evidenced by my continued involvement in assisting aspiring inventors. Providing guidance on feasibility testing, prototype development, and navigating the patent process brings me immense satisfaction, all undertaken altruistically and devoid of financial remuneration. One of the notable advantages of pursuing a career in engineering is the substantial financial rewards it offers. My post-retirement income, augmented by astute investments, attests to the lucrative nature of the profession.
Affirmative action crash course: in order to be considered for acceptance in an affirmative action program you must have the highest of all scores as an Asian or Indian, the middle for whites and lowest for blacks.
Young man, at the end of your video, you explained affirmative action and its downfall perfectly! Well done! Enjjoy your insights into your videos as well as your father's! God Bless!
I think every college application should be randomized and given a number. No race, no sex or orientation, US citizens prioritized over foreign. Acceptance based on SAT scores and GPA.
Dude this is only my second LFR video ever, just subbed a few hours ago. So, obviously as a result, I know very little about you overall, basically just first and second impressions so far. All I want to say is that imo if this student and many others had more of your attitude and demeanor, sitting there, listening intensely, clearly soaking in as much info from both sides as possible, thinking deeply and then talking after the thought it ready, the world would be a much better place. We need so much more of this in the modern-day society IMO. Glad I subbed LFR. From your last video which was also fire imo, you mentioned how you were the only kid in your friend group to take the test seriously. This is so true my experience was very similar. I was made fun of for doing good in school as a kid, it was seen as a bad and uncool thing. Talk about setting up our future for failure. Great channel looking forward to more! (joking and parody) until you post one video I disagree with, at that point you've jumped the shark! Lmao jk
Exactly. "The soft bigotry of low expectations" over && over again, except now it is right in everyone's faces... && the sheep continue to follow... 🤦♀️
So “we don’t live in a perfect world” applies to affirmative action related discrimination, but they can’t say the same about the disparities AF is supposed to address? I can’t believe I used to think this way too 🤦♀️
I think you understand affirmative action very well, Jojo! You explained it at the end of the video. I think the people who want affirmative action don't understand it. They don't understand the real consequenses.
Affirmative action is the most perfect example of "equity" in action. Equality is leveling the playing field and giving everyone the same opportunities. Equity is moving the goal post closer for some, and further away for others to create the illusion of Equality and inclusion.
How are you bringing someone up by putting them in a position that they are not ready for? Pressure busts pipes. If you're trying to put someone in an elevated class they have to be ready for it. It's only going to make them flunk.
Affirmative action is like putting a 4mm bolt in a 6mm hole and expecting it to work. You can't put a low level student in a highly outranked college because they are going to just fail
you know.... if performance metrics don't matter why does the NBA and NFL not affirmative action some hispanics and Asians into the teams? Hispanics and Asians are SIGNIFICANTLY underrepresented right?
You can support affirmative action. You can say it's right, you can say it's wonderful, you can say it is or was necessary, and you can say the motives for it are all very positive. You can say it's done wonderful things for our country. What you cannot say is that it is not racist. It's absolutely by definition racist. If this confuses anyone it's because they likely have been propagandized with the incorrect notion that racism can only be present in an oppressor/oppressed situation. This is simply not true. You have more than enough examples of racism without oppression and more than enough examples of oppression without racism to understand the two are not the same despite any overlap. Affirmative action is a racist government system, plain and simple. Regardless of how necessary it may have been at one time, and no matter what positive impact it may have had, it is a system based on the color of people's skin regardless of their abilities or any other criteria. That's racist. There's no way around it.
It's not about being fair its about it benefiting them and therefore it's good. So they praise it and other people just parrot it without stopping to think.
When people drop out of university without a successful degree, they end up with massive debt and no way to pay it off. We should be looking at these consequences as well.
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Please remember that you are not a minority, you are an American. This is how we stop dividing.
But wait... if that happens how will they control us???????????
exactly.
I can get on borad with that. I never call ppl "minorities". It really seems to come from the Left of the isle and it's like they think of black and brown folks as monoliths and not individuals. It's kind of gross.
Morgan Freeman was really on to something there.
Yes ❤
This student has not thought anything through. It’s all performative “I’m a good person” virtue signaling.
That's woke in a nutshell, a "care-more-than-thou: sense of moral superiority without any actual logic behind it. These losers are incapable of having a real argument or logical discussion, because it always just boils down to them saying 'you're a racist bigot if you don't agree with me!'
They are handed what they are told is the "correct" opinion and are told not to question it or they're evil is so many different ways. That's why none of them can defend their positions.
At least he was willing to converse and listen.
Exactly... I'm a good and nice Kid. I stand with the " "marginalized minority " even it hurts Asians or Whites or Pinks...or whatever
@@UrzliBoy Its the same ideology that made people turn each other into the KGB during the soviet union era. Do what the establishment says or you're evil.
Sowell brought this up. Lowering the standards for people to get into a place with high standards is a sure way to see that person fail to succeed.
That makes so much sense, it is astounding that so many people don't see that these days.
There’s some data that shows that the students that drop out overwhelmingly never return to school. That makes me so sad. The students may have been better off going to state school vs. washing out at a “name brand” school. Just more ammo for the “victim mentality “.
Yep as Sowell says you are taking a bunch of students who are in the top quartile and would excel at most colleges, and sending them to places like MIT where they are bound to fail. The data all shows this to be true. And it happens with average students and everyone else too.
It’s a failing methodology. If it worked, we wouldn’t need it anymore after a generation or two. Yet no AA policy has ever met its deadline, and the failure is instead just used as evidence that we need more affirmative action!
How soon until the institution with high standards lowers the standards?
@@MH-ro1lg Well, in truth, they have but only for select "diverse" people.
My mother got into engineering school in 1970. Before affirmative action. She was a "minority". She lied about her sex to get in. But when they realized that she was qualified and she had been accepted they let her in. She even changed many professors minds on female students. Simply by being good at what she did. Affirmative action would have just meant she didn't have to be good. That those men didn't need to change their minds. Did they just passed the girl along. Affirmative action would have hurt my mother.
Wow! She's a real hero!
Tell your mom she is a TRUE hero!
She's a trailblazer, what a courageous woman.
It hurts every single minority..I couldn't imagine constantly thinking I'm I here just because I'm different?
"It helps them (blacks) get the education that they need to do well in this economy..." Yeah, they're really going to do well with a degree in ethnic studies.
Thomas sowell has argued that lowering test scores for black people to get into college is not only condescending and offensive but it actually hurts them. Black people who wuld do perfectly well at a smaller or community college instead are going to high stress high demand schools and are not able to keep up and in some cases drop out.
Lowering standards doesn't help anyone. Like California did wrh math scores. They lowered the level required for competency and pass people through. Yea on the stats more people are passing math classes but that doesn't mean they understand it. Same thing with physical fitness for police and basic fitness tests for women in military service. It may be more diverse but you get a lower quality product in all areas. It's self evident.
Stop telling them! They've almost relegated themselves back into slavery. The left wing mission to restore indentured servitude is almost complete!
And now some of those same institutions are pushing professors to grade based on race and not just the work that gets turned in.
Thomas Sowell is a national treasure.
Well put 👍
Glenn Loury has a lot of salient points against affirmative action also.
Kudos to the kid for sitting down and having a conversation with someone he didn’t agree with. He’s regurgitating the crap someone told him instead of thinking for himself. Hopefully this opens his eyes to seeking the truth as opposed to listening to what others tell him to do. Critical thinking is so important!
And it’s being killed in college.
That's true. I've seen so many people that just absolutely refuse to engage with intellectual honesty because either can't, or they are too filled with hate and anger to do so.
Agreed, he seems like the type to wake up and drop this ideology as he matures. We can all be wrong sometimes, but must be open minded to new information
He's a white supremacist!
Lol, "we're being unfair to be fair." Same "logic" as them being racist to stop racism. It's all about making their own racist bigotry socially acceptable because they miss them good ol' days of the clan.
The cognitive dissonance is astounding these days
So you don’t think that having standards based on race is wrong and racist?
@@christinepeterson8097yes it is. If it’s not the same across the board its not a standard and treating people differently based on race is not only illegal and immoral but its the exact opposite of what people like MLK fought for
@@RapidRedRider I would agree with you. I was asking Andre because he seems to think that having different standards for different races is not racist. And then not backing it up with an argument but just calling people names.
@@christinepeterson8097 You completely misinterpreted what he said. He's referring to the people who taught that kid what he knows.
There are millions of open trades jobs. You do not need a university education to make 6 figures. What you need it to not be a lazy perpetual victim and you can do very well in life.
i'm not even in the trdes and make upper 70s per year after taxes (steel industry) we're also teamsters so health care and retirement are tip top😁
Yes ❤
Work hard, believe in yourself, strive to be better everyday! You will succeed.
I just paid a man $300 to clean my chimney and it took him less than an hour. If he did six houses a day, which I'm pretty sure he does because he was in a hurry to leave, He's going to be making at least $1,800 a day.
He doesn't have a college education, or actually spoke about that with him.
Don't let school interfere with your education.
One of my best friends was an electrician, something like 20 years ago before he got fed up and just stopped.
He went like 15 years without an actual job, just doing side work, everything from electrical to mechanical.
Those jobs, everyone that has gone to college for are the one's that are easily replaced by AI because they typically don't require hands-on.
Several friends that went to college freaking out over AI, my electrician friend is still just jobbing away with no cares.
The Irony though is that MLK saying
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today."
Would be considered racist by those who believe that Affirmative Action is necessary.
He had another dream where hoards of Valkyries pelted him with tiny pickles... but we don't hear about that one.
Yes, you are absolutely correct, Martin Luther King is rejected now by the left because his wisdom does not suit the agenda to divide us.
@@Ron-d2s you are an example of a leftist who rejects his wisdom because it does not fit your communist ideals. And if I’m correct, and you are a communist, then you are just a useful idiot for the globalists.
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@@Ron-d2sWTF are you babbling about?
Here's a suggestion, remove race and gender from all applications. School admissions and Job hiring should be based solely on merit and experience. If there is a concern that any particular group appears disadvantaged, it would make sense for schools (K-12), to have curriculums that prepares student for college, if they choose to go. Students that excel at an above average rate belong in Ivy League schools. If a student, regardless of race and economic background, chooses to not take school seriously and don't perform well or meet the standard, then you don't deserve admission to a school. Affirmative action should be completely abolished. Sometimes obstacles causes people to buckle down and work harder or create their own. This is what black people did after slavery. I love how liberal thinking people completely ignore the Reconstruction era and jump straight to Jim Crow and the civil rights era.
Jim Crow was better for blacks than this modern "liberal" way of looking at black people like incapable animals and pets to be coddled.
The problem is that the same people saying that the system is racist, would argue that you would have to remove any personal information about somebody. They would get together with all their liberal scientist buddies and publish a faulty research article that would receive nationwide, recognition by the media stating that colleges use a student’s name, income, address, etc. to assume their race and discriminate against them. it’s the exact same chain of events that led to affirmative action being created.
I feel affirmative action based on socio-economic conditions is ok. The race-based version is ridiculous.
@@indianatarzan8001 That’s what they claim it already is. These racists assume that all black people are poor and all white people are rich
@@indianatarzan8001 I agree. I think that if a student that comes from a poor background meets the academic standards of the school admission then, it I would be okay with some sort of scholarship or grant for that student. I don't know if I would call it affirmative action. I think it should be judged on a case by case basis as well as available funding. There should be some criteria set in place that requires the student to earn that financial assistance on some level; whether it's through work study, volunteer, or whatever measures that make sense.
It used to be called positive discrimination which is discrimination. They changed the term to affirmative action to remove the word discrimination but it still is. Lowering the standards because of the colour of your skin.
That's so dmn insulting!
@@nobody-fs8jj Do you mean what I said or the practice of affirmative action?
I don't know about the other person, but I find the process you're describing--both affirmative action itself and the changing of the term to something softer--to be insulting.
History is full of dark, offensive moments. The problem is that people are hiding them, or twisting the truth about them so it doesn't look as bad.
The saying goes, those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. It is important to learn the painful, uncomfortable, disturbing, embarrassing (and whatever else you may want to call it) moments of history. To talk about why they are wrong, to make sure they never happen again, and to teach them so those who come after us don't do it either. We can't erase the past, no matter how much some would love to do so.
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Great point about the assumption that all black people have a linage of slavery in the US, my brother in law has a good friend who is a black man here in the south, who is Canadian, who has often commented to me that he has no cultural connection the local southern black slave descendants. As while he may have slaves in his family history, his ancestors had been free people from long before the US civil war.
More than 40 years ago a (white) relative of mine was passed over for a job for which he was very well qualified. They told him to his face they needed to hire a Hispanic.
And about 30 years ago I knew of a young woman who was half British Isles (English, Scottish, Irish), 3/8 Hispanic, and 1/8 Navajo. She applied to a state university (which to my knowledge pretty much admitted everybody), listing herself as Hispanic--and was turned down. She reapplied with the exact same grades and transcripts but listed herself as Navajo, and they could not wait to admit her.
Happened to me too
Speaks volumes.
Reverse racism
Around 20 years ago or so a friend was trying to get her white daughter into modeling and one of the companies rejected her because she wasn’t ‘ethnic’ enough.
Same here -- or solid possibility at least hahaha -- mlnls and GenZ think that they are responsible for bringing about this type of "CHANGE" -- but it was going on back then as well. Back then I was all for it, now it just feels superficial, or being done for all the wrong reasons. Ridiculous.@spaceace1006
A hundred + years ago, an equally qualified Blonde blue-eyed Irish or Polish legal immigrant was less likely to get the job, than an American who looked just like them, because of their accent or having a surname that ended in a vowel, instead of consonant.
Some people will ALWAYS find a reason...
My mother literally could not tell my great-grandfather my father's last name because she is Irish and he is English. Race never mattered.
You're not bringing those communities UP, you're bringing American standards DOWN. Like divisions in sports. If a last place team keeps moving up the standings because the 1st and 2nd and 3rd place teams keep losing, the last place team isn't really getting better. Not compared to other divisions (countries) where the standards are higher because the 1st place teams keep winning. Maybe a far-fetched analogy to some people but not really.
This comment was supposed to be made on the main comment section. Not this thread but whatever.
When my ancestors got to America they were just glad they had not been hung as horse thieves back in Scotland.
@@Ron-d2s my ancestors were in a similar situation, but they’re from rorikstead and we’re caught on the border of Tamriel.
@@PizzaSteve-jw4zr sooooooooo you are the descendent of ghosts?
Isn't affirmative action kind of like replacing farmers with people who knows nothing about farming.
At least in both scenarios you end up with people who are incapable of doing what they are expected to be capable of.
Almost as if it's a product of Marxism. 😂
In both instances people will starve.
Commies did just that and the Holodomor ensued.
Or airplane pilots who flew for the military for twenty years with people who just passed a program with lowered standards.
No it is not. It is like replacing a farmer with another farmer that is not quite as capable of 100% yield from that farm. One that has proven to have less skills.
@@mattmink933 You're saying the same thing without being hyperbolic.
9:53 I was thinking a couple minutes ago that the student was referring to the black people like one would refer to educating a child. That is the democrat in him.
The Democrat solution to solving racism is with more racism.
Coddling and hand-outs behaviour requiring no discipline and accountability. That’s how you destroy a group of people, by treating them like perpetual children.
He's a white supremacist.
Affirmative action has always applied to jobs, not just education.
In 1973, I started looking for a new company to work for, instead of ATT, because ATT had just signed an agreement with the Department of Labor, essentially, stating they would not discriminate against anyone EXCEPT WHITE, MALE, COLLEGE GRADUATES. I had been passed over for promotion, twice, in favor of “people of color.” Reverse discrimination is just as wrong as discrimination!
@clintcooper923 it's not reverse discrimination. it's just discrimination. Sorry that happened to you. But for some reason people today think it only applied to education. I din5 get how people don't see it as racist discrimination on hoth work and education.
Even as a minority I was once denied a promotion because across the organization they wanted an equal number of specific minority groups at each level. Since they had already met their number of hispanic people they promoted other minorities. My wife at the time and I went to the local government office (I don't even remember which agency) to discuss. When I showed them evidence. I had an actual screenshot since I couldnt email the document to myself externally. They looked at and told me that it didnt look discriminatory because they were trying to make things equal. Equal opportunity and equal outcome arent the same. People today seem to be wanting equal outcome.
@@annepowers4734 "it's not reverse discrimination. it's just discrimination".
In the same way there's no such thing as reverse racism.
Need to stop using the word “minority”. What are we saying when we say it? That they’re not white? I’m brown according to the mirror and other’s eyes but I refuse to be called a minority… I’m a human being not just a color or ethnicity.
It's sad how people have been taught not to think.
At one point it looked like his head was going to explode.
they've been taught what to think not how to think
They think listening is the same as thinking. It's only getting worse, little kids today only sit and stare at tablets. They aren't doing brain developing creative things like drawing and coloring or building things.
So if I join the nba, every shot I make is worth 3 pts
I'm 5'5 and I'm tired of people with Height privilege being the only ones hired to play NBA.
One of the last of the Boomers here: Affirmative action originally was meant to be a course-correction after the Civil Rights act was passed in the 1960's. The idea was since Blacks had been excluded from certain pursuits, a concerted effort was needed to make "X" more equitable. Equity, I hold is antithetical to equal opportunity. This fundraising commercial, ubiquitous in the 70's "The United Negro College Fund: Because a mind is a terrible thing to waste," says a ton, both as to where we were then and where we are now.
One of the last boomers? My dad's a greatest generation and he's still kicking. You got a while yet. And well said!
Not a correction more like. Political stance for the dems to get votes and they still ride that coattail
Unless you’re in your 80’s plus you’re not a boomer
It was democrats rascism them & now.
At the time of the civil rights movement people already lived together in peace and black peoples were flourishing in their respective communities. But they just had to continue giving handouts and ruining the accountability and discipline these communities have!
I believe Affirmative Action was WRONG.
@@MamaMOB I think maybe he meant a younger boomer. 😂
Came for the TEARS, left disappointed.
Affirmative action helped you secure a seat in college.... who was bumped out of your way from this policy....that's the point
This sounds like the man who proclaims himself a woman and bumps females out of place prizes and scholarships
Not to mention, they are more likely to drop out due to the workload.
That's a good point. That's why I think all the efforts of affirmative action should be directed at young black youth in grade school where it doesn't effect others negatively. Just help get more young black youth in school and help them stay away from crime. The funds could even be given to black owned organizations monitored by the gov to help kids get out of dangerous situations and into healthy loving situations that give them drive to be better. Then there would be no need for affirmative action in college and job opportunities.
Marginalised communities are not moving up, they are dragging the rest of us down!
Not true. "Parts" of all communities are bringing us down. And also part of every community are helping raise the quality of this country.
I can’t imagine that as a black student who absolutely slays that it feels good to know that everyone knows that the bar was lower for them. Even if they did get that 99% on the sat, some will always consider “affirmative action”, “diversity hire” despite their excellence.
First of all no-one was murdered "slays" second of all they have NO excellence within them that's why they HAVE to have aa btw it's lowered keep showing the lack of excellence and education.
Sadly that’s always going to be people’s 1st assumption as well, no matter how smart or qualified, the black candidate is going to have to prove competency twice as much as anyone else, to the people working under them, because everyone’s assumption is diversity hire, even when that’s not the case.
You are a logical, intelligent, straight thinking young man, who puts a lot of out institutional "smart" leaders to shame.
If we are ALL equal then we don't need a crutch to get up! - Talent and hard work helps dude!
He completely fell off the cliff when he said, "You have to a Masters Degree to basically get a minimum wage job." WTF? Isn't that a self-defeating sentence?
Yeah he believes everything he's told. It's easy to get a job that isn't minimum wage. It's about what you look for and are willing to do at a workplace
That math blew my mind! More people came out of internment camps than went in.. the only scenario that could make that statement possible, is if there were more babies born inside internment camps, than people who died in them..
Especially when the literal exact same thing could be said of slavery lol
Math ain't mathing
How is that statistic, validity aside, pertinent to the main question of the video? And why should it be so surprising if true?
@@DAVID-io9njDo you what internment camps were?
There were camps for women and there were camps for men.
So evidently they didn't have children which would have been the only way there could come out more people of the internment camps than went in.
Most people didn't come out anyway. They were gassed, starved to death or worked untill they died of fatigue or diseases.
Slave owners had an interest in keeping their slaves alive, and more babies meant more property for the slaveowner, so he would have welcomed that.
I do not condone slavery but it is important to look at peoples motives.
@@ankavoskuilen1725 I believe he was talking about the internment camps of Japanese in America. Not the death camps in German controlled territory. And I repeat,how is that factoid pertinent to the subject matter of affirmative action? This guy used that "fact" to negate the internment camp experience of Japanese in America.
@@DAVID-io9nj right on point
14Th Amendment guarantees equal protection under the laws. All citizens are equal in the eyes of the law.
End of story.
I respect a man that works hard. I worked two jobs for43 years, Help me retire. And I don't make a lot of money, but enough to live on.
U always set an excellent example for college students and adults alike with ur open minded commentary! I applaud u young man!!
2:54 If you don’t understand I will try to explain in just a couple sentences:
Essentially it is setting the bar at different levels for people based on their race in order to artificially change the demographics in a university or in an industry, in government or in a company. Using the example of what is happening at Harvard, black students need only an 1100 to gain admission, while white students need a 1310 and Asian students need a 1350 (for women, Asian males need even higher). Latinos were required to have a score slightly higher than black students.
This results in many white and Asian applicants who were very qualified being denied entrance while many black and Latino applicant who were not qualified are given their spots.
That also means that the quality of the university itself goes down. It is inevitable.
College is simply gatekeeping, but creative hard-working individuals will always prosper. The fact you have so many people watching your videos is testament to that. Congratulations on your future success.
Virtue signaling with that kid is almost nauseating.
IF he doesn't, then in his mind he is a racist and responsible for hurting other races. That's why it hurts him to think anything different.
Does he even know what internment camps are or what they do to people?
He does not lol. He makes them sound like Woodstock.
@@vannisalynnratliff8597 right?!
He doesn't know anything about them obviously.
Good points as usual! I recommend continuing to watch more "Crowder change my mind" videos, I l've learned a lot from them over the years! Btw, those #s that Crowder cited, for average SAT scores required to get into an Ivy league, by race- Asian 1350/White 1310/Black 1100 are similar to MCAT/GPA for med school admissions! (I'm a med student). I mentioned this in another of your videos, but yeah... it's definitely unfair! At the end of the day, success comes down to parenting/mindset/culture! Also, Dr. Thomas Sowell talks about the negative effects of Affirmation Action, such as mismatching, drop outs, etc., as Crowder alluded to!
I've been watching a couple of your videos lately, they just happen'd to come to my feed from all the other channles I follow or watch.
I must say, it genuinely makes me happy to see a young man like you thinking for yourself and seeing what is what, drawing your own conclusions and from what I've seen, always open to the argumentation, even if you disagree with the points presented. Gives hope to me that the Western Civilization still can be saved.
Yes, I literally mean the whole Western Civilization, these topics you are tackling are not a USA problem, they plague the Western World has a whole, It's hard to say where and when this all started, but it is atleast as old as the 60's in the US and spreaded like a wildfire.
I will give you my own side of the coin here, I am not from the US, nor have I ever lived near the US, I hail from the land of diversity, the most diverse country in the world, Brazil, and for some reason unbekown to me, for the past thirteen to fourteen years the racial struggle and gender war agenda has been forced down my nation's throat, a movement in the mold of the MBL rised and ever since then the media and the whole leftist section push this racial war that never existed in the country, for God's sake, yes, we had slavery here in Brazil, but it was in no way as deshuman has it's portrayed, even during the active years of slavery we had some very rich black people, one of the biggest literature authors of the country from that era is black, and even the slavery system had norms that allowed a slave to buy themselves out of slavery (which, mind you, led to some former slaves acquiring their freedom and buying slaves for themselves), but that is not the problem, the problem is that these people try and sell the idea that the government at the time was racist and pro slavery, when in reality, the at time Emperor of Brazil fought his whole life, from when he took power at the age of 16 to the day he died at 66 years old for the abolition of slavery, and he only managed such a thing at the end of his life, when a coup de etat took him out of power and he didn't fight back the only thing he did was require for slavery to be outright outlawed in the Country and he would step out of the Throne, and that is how slavery ended here.
The craziest thing is, the people who claim to defend minorities and push the whole left agenda ARE the people that prevented the Emperor at the time from outlawing slavery, are the same people that took him out of power and are the same people that robbed this country ever since.
What I want to say with all of this is, and I apologize for extending myself onto some completely different reality, history is the biggest teacher you can have, if you learn from history you will know exactly what is happening current and what will happen in the future and you will know when it is a bad or good thing, the person who knows their history, not only their country, but the whole foundations of the cultural background in which his country was raised on will never be manipulated by anyone.
Best of luck and keep it up, as my father always told me since I was little:
"They can rob you of everything you own, they can take everything you built, but they will NEVER be able to rob or take away your knowledge"
Are they going to volunteer to have the doctor who got lower grades operate on them??? Let’s follow this thinking to it’s conclusion! Far out! So stupid!
This actually happened at the medical school in my state. Two white students were not admitted to the medical school. Both carried a 4.0 grade point average. Two black students were admitted. One carried a 2.0 and the other was lower than that. It made the local news, but was 1 short story and not covered nationally. People were using your exact analogy when talking about it, which is why I remember it so well. Those 2 students, who worked hard get those good grades to be one of the limited number of students being admitted to the medical school, most likely would have done well. We'll never know because this happened in the early 1990's and was never heard about again. It took a supreme court ruling in 2003 for that same state college to stop using affirmative action on undergraduate admissions, but it was still ruled affirmative action would be used for the law school admissions.
Hey man you've been showing up more frequently on my feed. Love the content. Keep it up
“That’s kinda just how it goes.” What a great argument. 🙄
Well I don’t want to pick a family doctor based off of affirmative action.
Sir, you are a genius. Thank you for your great channel!
Man, this is what needs to happen. Universities require 1300 on SAT to get in, period. Community colleges require 1150 SAT to get in, period. Obviously something around these scores, and of course, the respective ACT scores.
I've never understood racial discrimination. One of my best friends, who I call brother, is black (I'm white,) and we throw racist jokes at each other all the time in good fun and have good laughs (subconsciously making a mockery of actual racists, which is absolutely hilarious.) It's all about whether people have a negative or positive outlook on life and on people. LOVE people, and understand that humans are simply humans, period! A good person is a good person and a bad person is a bad person.
I don't mind the use of the word "minority" because, definitively speaking, since whites make up the majority percentage of the population, technically every other race is, definitively, the minority. The problem lies with how society has twisted words to have a negative connotation (and positive for some.)
This is the same reason I said years ago that I don't believe in today's society's loose definition of depression. Yes, depression absolutely, 100% exists, and my best friend and his mother has been diagnosed with it. Depression is a mental disability, literally and definitively. Just because someone says, "I don't want to do anything, and I'm feeling sad," does NOT mean you are depressed. Go outside, do something active, and drink more water (percentage-wise anyway,) and I can pretty much guarantee you'll feel like a different person who does NOT have depression. People like this that claim to have depression actually severely downplays REAL, diagnosable depression, and it's totally unfair to them, because people won't take it as seriously.
Rant done, but I love your videos man
Jojo found Crowder. Best thing about Crowder is that he cites his sources. Keep it up.
JoJo, Your a bright young man on the right path! I'm proud of you.. keep up the good work!
Dude more people came out of the camps than went in? He makes it sound like a hippy love fest breeding farm. That can’t be right. I don’t think that little boy understands the context of the discussion.
The saddest part about these college students is that you could give them all the facts to disprove their beliefs but they still won’t change their viewpoint. This is why we need to change the legal voting age to 25 so at least peoples brains have fully developed and they’re able to reason more logically 😂
It's not an age thing. It's a leftist thing. The fully grown leftists do the same thing. It goes way, way back. The soviets and Maoists would literally deny a famine was happening as they starved millions.
@@radagast7200 that's true about leftists but you could make the same argument for people who are on the far right as well
@Shakkkkkk not really... but I suppose that depends on what you call 'the far right'...
@@radagast7200 probably like those super maga hicks that'll believe anything conservatives or Trump says. Many people unfortunately believe anything the media pushes if its convincing enough
"have to have a masters degree to get a minimum wage job", I suppose with some of the fields of study offering degrees that have no use on the job a masters degree may be necessary to compensate for a undergraduate degree that shows you have no common sense.
Babe, You got it EXACTLY. It doesn't benefit ANYONE. Go by the grades. Same standard for EVERYONE.
Prissy boy needs to sack up
he prolly wouldn't even know what that means.
These people have no idea what they are talking about, you are doing a great job .
Meritocracy is the only way for society to survive.
I love you, brother. You showed me so much of what's really going on. Thank you.
As an engineer of over 40 years, I used very little of what I learned in college. Look for an apprentice job working with engineers. Do it for free if you have to. Good luck. I loved inventing and making things
Doesn't the degree help, when you want to make a carreer in engineering?
The degree secures the interview. I started my technical career as a reactor operator aboard US submarines. Safter honorable discharge I acquired a Bachelor of Science degree in Mathematics. My education and training in nuclear school was akin to a comprehensive two-year technical program. So, I put in the studies required to be an engineer without that specific degree. In a way, like an extended apprenticeship.
Transitioning into design engineering was facilitated by my commitment to securing technical positions and diligently expressing my innovative ideas in every professional setting. This endeavor culminated in the acquisition of seven patents, a testament to my dedication and ingenuity.
My message to aspiring engineers is to immerse oneself in the field, even if it entails starting with modest compensation. Demonstrating one's capabilities early on is paramount. Embracing challenging assignments, volunteering for less desirable tasks, and exhibiting a strong work ethic are key to making a lasting impression within a company.
The landscape of engineering has evolved since my inception into the profession in the 1970s, with a shift from engineer-centric dynamics to greater influence from financial considerations. Navigating the complexities of one's engineering career has become markedly more challenging as a result. Nonetheless, the perpetual demand for engineers underscores the indispensability of the profession-a fact reflected in the myriad engineered marvels that surround us.
Even in retirement, my passion for engineering endures, as evidenced by my continued involvement in assisting aspiring inventors. Providing guidance on feasibility testing, prototype development, and navigating the patent process brings me immense satisfaction, all undertaken altruistically and devoid of financial remuneration.
One of the notable advantages of pursuing a career in engineering is the substantial financial rewards it offers. My post-retirement income, augmented by astute investments, attests to the lucrative nature of the profession.
For every person who is given an unfair advantage, someone else is denied basic equality under the law.
How about fixing the bases of education first. Teach better not promote weaker one.
This kid isn't very bright. He has learned what to think, not how to think.
Steven Crowder change my mind is an era to never forget
In my view, Affirmative Action is basically saying "You're not smart enough to do it on your own."
Affirmative action crash course: in order to be considered for acceptance in an affirmative action program you must have the highest of all scores as an Asian or Indian, the middle for whites and lowest for blacks.
Young man, at the end of your video, you explained affirmative action and its downfall perfectly! Well done! Enjjoy your insights into your videos as well as your father's! God Bless!
Fairness through unfairness, we have to accept that we live in an Idiocracy.😂
Who in their right mind would want to always live/work under the specter of "Affirmative Action Hire"?
I’ll be insulted if they have to give me a boost just to get in. If I can’t get in so be it
Your take is exactly right good man. Race and sex should NOT be a deciding factor in any of these instances.
"need a masters degree to get a minimum wage job" ...why i otta...
Either I'm blind or too busy gaming on my main monitor during "watching" but I didn't see no tears...
I think every college application should be randomized and given a number. No race, no sex or orientation, US citizens prioritized over foreign. Acceptance based on SAT scores and GPA.
That first point you made was spot on man don't let them take away your achievements like that.
The boy got it right when he said ‘ it’s not fair’. Exactly.
Great common sense commentary! Good for you! Can’t wait to see where you end up with this amazing attitude! Pulling for you!!!!
Dude this is only my second LFR video ever, just subbed a few hours ago. So, obviously as a result, I know very little about you overall, basically just first and second impressions so far. All I want to say is that imo if this student and many others had more of your attitude and demeanor, sitting there, listening intensely, clearly soaking in as much info from both sides as possible, thinking deeply and then talking after the thought it ready, the world would be a much better place. We need so much more of this in the modern-day society IMO. Glad I subbed LFR. From your last video which was also fire imo, you mentioned how you were the only kid in your friend group to take the test seriously. This is so true my experience was very similar. I was made fun of for doing good in school as a kid, it was seen as a bad and uncool thing. Talk about setting up our future for failure. Great channel looking forward to more!
(joking and parody) until you post one video I disagree with, at that point you've jumped the shark! Lmao jk
I love how logical you think man, your hard work is paying off keep it up.
These kids are told what to think and that there is no questioning of the message.
They young man is very comfortable speaking for all those minorities that need his help.
Exactly. "The soft bigotry of low expectations" over && over again, except now it is right in everyone's faces... && the sheep continue to follow... 🤦♀️
In tears? I didn’t see that.
So “we don’t live in a perfect world” applies to affirmative action related discrimination, but they can’t say the same about the disparities AF is supposed to address? I can’t believe I used to think this way too 🤦♀️
Hire kids in high school and college NOW, while they still know everything.
We are guaranteed equal protection under the law. Affirmative action is the opposite of of that and directly violates the Constitution. It always has.
❤❤❤LOVE you young man, keep searching for the truth 🙏🙏🙏
I think you understand affirmative action very well, Jojo!
You explained it at the end of the video.
I think the people who want affirmative action don't understand it. They don't understand the real consequenses.
Love your takes. Very level-headed, subbed.
Affirmative action is the most perfect example of "equity" in action.
Equality is leveling the playing field and giving everyone the same opportunities.
Equity is moving the goal post closer for some, and further away for others to create the illusion of Equality and inclusion.
I started dying at 9:10 when he said test scores were racist 🤣
The ability to think for oneself is being erased and replaced by group think.
This poor child has been brain washed so bad. 🤦🏻♂️
Other people's children...
Parents, please stop your kids from watching CNN.
Thanks for the video, great job.
The only thing that is fair is equal opportunity not equal outcome.
This guy just doesn't want to accept that he is wrong. He is squirming in his seat, for crying out loud.
How are you bringing someone up by putting them in a position that they are not ready for? Pressure busts pipes. If you're trying to put someone in an elevated class they have to be ready for it. It's only going to make them flunk.
Affirmative action is like putting a 4mm bolt in a 6mm hole and expecting it to work. You can't put a low level student in a highly outranked college because they are going to just fail
you know.... if performance metrics don't matter why does the NBA and NFL not affirmative action some hispanics and Asians into the teams? Hispanics and Asians are SIGNIFICANTLY underrepresented right?
Progress through affirmative action is, at best, a facade that hides underlying problems.
You can support affirmative action. You can say it's right, you can say it's wonderful, you can say it is or was necessary, and you can say the motives for it are all very positive. You can say it's done wonderful things for our country. What you cannot say is that it is not racist. It's absolutely by definition racist. If this confuses anyone it's because they likely have been propagandized with the incorrect notion that racism can only be present in an oppressor/oppressed situation. This is simply not true. You have more than enough examples of racism without oppression and more than enough examples of oppression without racism to understand the two are not the same despite any overlap. Affirmative action is a racist government system, plain and simple. Regardless of how necessary it may have been at one time, and no matter what positive impact it may have had, it is a system based on the color of people's skin regardless of their abilities or any other criteria. That's racist. There's no way around it.
from 1350, to 1310, to 1100? That's a huge jump in scores from white to black!
“Soft prejudice of low expectations”
What a perfect summary
It's not about being fair its about it benefiting them and therefore it's good. So they praise it and other people just parrot it without stopping to think.
When people drop out of university without a successful degree, they end up with massive debt and no way to pay it off. We should be looking at these consequences as well.
The fix to “unfairness” is to remove artificial barriers to opportunity, not to offer artificial advantages.