We were already getting $2000 per month on CERB and I was working on my business even though everything was closed. People on disability (Aish) can work and earn an income and many do. Seniors on pensions, many work as well. Lazy is not a medical nor a psychological term. It is a derogative term used to manipulate people.
Taxpayers have supported millions of welfare recepients,many legimate and ofcourse lots lazy ones misusing for years.Take all that away and see where they stand for employment?There is no way of establishing a fair system without the cracks.Look at the wider picture and see the impact on the economy.
@@imranrizvi5412 honestly I'd pay into some money if it meant to get the homeless off the street and in a home. You are simply lucky to be healthy enough to work, other aren't and end up homeless from sickness or jod loss. There's no such thing as lazy. The homeless doesn't steal your tax money though. The government does. Donut man slips a few in his pocket then gets everyone else to blame the poor. The gov steals, and pretends like they give it too the poor, becuase they know well enough they can afford to give the homeless money and not take it from workers. It's just a lie to keep everyone from getting any richer. This is how the gov pushes us down. Gov will take your money regardless if they give any money too the poor or not. They are already paying 83 billion to keep people homeless. They know they could pay less to just give each person money so they can get out of homelessness but the idea is to keep them poor. And then when they do give money to everyone they act like it's all the poor's fault and get the middle class to blame the poor. Say it with me "it's the gov that steals not the poor" yay we're learning
Lazzy? are you kidding? I don't think too many people understand how many lost their work forever, and the ones close to their 60's cannot find any work that pays enough to live. Lots of people lots work, why aren't people talking about this. The $2000.00 will help that's for sure.
I’m a disabled ex-construction worker now driving school bus and on a pretty much fixed income with a wife and 2 teenagers at home. With gas, food, energy and inflation of everything else, my head is being held under water. Pretty much drowning….
@@a.m.7438 you better not question them and you better have all your needles. Were gonna be going digital currency soon and every transaction will have to be monitored and approved
@@lasttry99 i don't buy any of this. There are tons of research showing the positive effects of basic income. Basic income increases freedom. The logistics behind controlling people through basic income would CRUSH any government trying to abuse its people. Government always lags behind tech, and besides, we decide who we vote for. With income, we are more flexible, more mobile, more capable of reacting quickly to any harmful actions to limit our freedoms. Basic income unlocks human participation in their societies. See Scott Santens on universal basic income. He's been researching and teaching it for many years now. And he had a new book on money and independence. Whoever is selling you on basic income as slavery is conning you. Don't let fear cloud your judgment. Universal basic income is freedom.
@@a.m.7438 will were gonna find out soon. The fact that it's drive inflation is common sense. And the taxpayers are gonna be the ones to pay or are they just gonna continue printing monopoly money because it's basically worthless now
UBI only makes sense for those with disabilities who have permanent limitations, and seniors who do not make enough to live above the poverty line. If it is applied too broadly it will create too much dependence on government. We need to address why people cannot thrive in the first place and address those shortcomings first! The tax burden of UBI would be insane!! Who pays for that?
@@marilynmccall2879 ...guess what? You already are paying for it. CPP, EI and WCB are three examples. And given how disjointed it is this costs would largely be absorbed.
Basic income, is insanity , who is going to work ? if you are paid for not working , where is the incentive for working ? Canada already has the highest taxes in the world , when working people ,end up with less money after taxes ,why work ?you don't have to be a genus to ask that question . that spells tragedy , to many people on welfare into drugs , alcohol , crime , drug dealers etc. People need a purpose ,work builds integrity , you can' just give people money. spending other people's money is called welfare , that system has failed everywhere ,because eventually you run out of other people's money .
On December 16, 2021 Member of Parliament Leah Gazan introduced Bill C-223, which if passed, would establish the first national framework for an unconditional Guaranteed Livable Basic Income for all persons over 17 across Canada.
This program would guarantee all Canadians aged 18 to 64 an income of at least 75% of the Low-Income Measure (LIM, a common measure of Canada's poverty line), or a basic income of about $18,300 for individuals and $25,900 for couples.
With, personal choices and freedoms intact. Not, if you do what govt dictates, you can receive supplement, that would be dangling a carrot, which is what allows manipulation and dictatorship.
@@sherrybonnett4827 But what to do, what to do ? More and more Canadians are ending up in food banks, and are losing their abilities to pay all their bills, and I'm talking about people who have jobs !! Eventually, thus becomes everyone's problem!
@@sherrybonnett4827 Wd are all already chasing dangling carrots in the great rat race, putting on a great act during job interviews, acting like we love our jobs, trying our best to keep our jobs ! In any case, ambitious people will always want to work even more in order to ADD their salaries to their UBI incomes !
@@pierre-rose7783 I agree with your perspective. I have a great healing plan for my beloved community....just need a bit more funds to make it happen! It will bring people together, out in nature, where we can giggle again. I can share my knowledge of a very gentle, enjoyable form of moving meditation, and offer some nutritious snacks, refreshing drinks, and talk about other healing modalities that are completely natural. A local retreat where people can come to recharge their batteries. I guess it is up to each one of us to create our own paradise!🌿🌞🌱🌷
I'm a single Canadian in my 50's and currently receive a total of $750 per month from government assistance. Luckily, I live in a rooming house and my room costs $400 per month all inclusive. Over the years I have learned to budget this income to get by. However this includes one meal a day, no friends, no recreational activities. Even double my current amount ($1500) would change my life. It could change what I can do for myself. Even better, do for others. But whatever, it's only money.
@@MrWallace484 I still owe over $3000 from a student loan from 1995. The CRS holds back any tax credits owed until it is paid off. Gee, I wonder if that money could help my situation in todays economy?
@RD Gray...So true, so true ! Many lives are ruined because of shortfalls of a few hundred dollars a month, imagine how many would be saved if only they had some form of UBI !
No friends no recreational activities...sorry to hear that. I think the better way would be a jobs guarantee program that pays a living wage and provides community services guaranteeing a job as a right to all. People need more than just money, they need a way to connect with their own communities. A job at $20/hr with 4 day work week, healthcare, vacation days and sick days.
@@henrygustav7948 here’s the thing $20/hr is not a true living wage when one adds inflation as well. A true living wage is probably much closer to 28+an hr. In 2022
Universal basic income is a sociopolitical financial transfer policy proposal in which all citizens of a given population regularly receive a legally stipulated and equally set financial grant paid by the government without a means test. A basic income can be implemented nationally, regionally, or locally
@@happydaze7386 UBI by itself has inflationary pressures but its the need for capitalists to maintain profit margins or workers wanting higher wages that drives inflation. Its not that it makes everything cost more in relation which makes it bad policy, its that so much political capital would be wasted on it when what we really need are socially inclusive jobs which compete with jobs in private sector which would force all wages to go up.
Iam one of those recepients in receipt of Ontario works...and it's joke all the way, but we aren't the one laughing here....he made a very important and valued point about our provincial income support program is DISCOURAGING work , education and whatever else that may be hinderence for some of us...C'mon...food should never be so hard to get in this great land of Canada!...support is what it missing the most!
i dont think laziness will be anything if were all dead and homeless, its only getting worse. people on cerb literally started buisnesses. if we had ubi imagine how much freedom people would have to start buisnesses thence offering jobs on top of it. the gov knows what people are going through they are only saying lazy because they want to keep people low on money cause thats what keeps them higher level. and if you ask me any party or gov using the word lazy for some kind of non existant idea of knowing peoples situation is extremely unproffesional.
@@prairiebuds870 was that supposed to be rude towards my comment? Bruh ive seen more lazy ass workers compared to non workers that are doing anything to get a job.
Cerb was a relief package and most the commercial activity was interrupted.Most of the businesses were shut down.Working individual did whatever they could,so there is no proof of laziness.Seniors who continued working were clawed back on GIS.So if this impact was foreseen people would have sat back and enjoyed.So once again where is the laziness?
If you think about people that inherited wealth or live off of income from investments that work at something , sure some are the “lazy”, or other negative term you can come up with. The difference is a basic income will improve health and productivity. Grandma might stay at home longer if there is someone can stay home more and support her safety. This list of benefits will be as diverse as their are people. So to those that think money will make you “use any derogatory term you, like” again look at people that do not have to work for money. It would be better to have a universal income without all the social safety nets that have gaps, that steal dignity and the only downside it that it will reduce a lot of government workers. And people that work at many not for profit businesses. Not a bad thing.
@@happydaze7386 Looked it up and conspiracy fiction is a strong element with these topics. And you have to ask yourself who gains from these stories? When it is obvious we gain from UBI. Unlike corporations that value inflation as it means minimum wage earners are more dependent on getting more hours to keep standard of living. Look up Applebee’s recent leaked email for some non-fiction research.
@@happydaze7386 so cial credit and digital Id cannot be attatched to it. This would give government too much control and overreach. Our bill and charter of rights need to be upheld in an ethical manner.
If I was young again and getting UBI it would incentivize for me to want more; make more money, seek a better education, be more innovative; all simply out of the boredom of having a fixed income and the limits that come with it. As a capitalist I can see value in UBI and also know that a well thought out social safety net provides citizens to an extent assurance against bad luck and the downside risks of capitalist disruption plus can prevent extreme anti capitalism sentiment. That being said, there will always be some who will take advantage of UBI, but nothing like the costs to the middle class of seeing the richest of the richest and big corporations and their conglomerates getting their losses and failures socialized at the taxpayers' expense and see most of that money getting offshored into trust where they never have to use it to keep afloat what wealth and businesses they have at home.
Again the people that helped make Canada of today are left out? ? to 65 to qualify? I live on $1400 a month because Turdos government took $400 amonth away from my OAS and $500 from my wife??? I never got one cent of CERB? We seem to always be forgotten and left out???
@@maybelline081 My wife took 4 or 5 weeks of the CERB? I never got or took one cent of there money? I have to pay $500 a month for medicals supplies that no Fed or Provincial government helps with? A doctor botched my prostrate removal operation, back in 2006. I was on ODSP around 2014, then in In 2018 I had lung cancer operation. ODSP gave me $24oo for help that year? 2018 A new Girl (worker) took over. She said we made too much money and now we are paying that back. Every time we get any money back at tax time? As you can see IWe want nothing too do with any government people what so ever. Yet the same time ODSP gave me that money for help with my operation, in a city 4 hrs away form my home. They had no problem giving 2 young people $200 to party on a weekend I heard them talking about it while I was waiting my turn in the ODSP office?
@@basketthound2133 The problem Mr. Burley is that every extra penny given by provincial or federal, it is always added on top of our income. Makes a mighty difference for you & your wife $900 less per month. So sorry Mr. Burley, that you'v been ill so much and no help $$ for medical supplies. I do not know in what province you are living, but I am grateful here in province of Quebec we have RAMQ (regime assurance maladie Quebec) for meds, doctors, operation etc. Hope the clawback for you & your wife will be ending soon. Take care Mr. Burley. Pleasant chatting with you. (sorry for my english, I speak mostly french )
Most people desire living standards that go above $2000/mo, Some will be lazy, but the majority will probably just work, though maybe not as much. Looking for better jobs and having more power at the negotiating tables for average workers would also be a good thing since unions are on a downwards trend.
I am adamantly opposed to this. With CERB, no one could fill lower paying work. Those that collect will collect and then work under the table and pay no taxes.
Lol, then all those who FILL LOWER PAYING WORK WILL QUIT. NO ONE WILL FILL THOSE POSTONS. SO, THOSE BUSSINESES WILL CLOSE. YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE TO SERVE YOU AND SHOP IN THOSE BUSSINESSES . YOULL HAVE TO SHOP SOMEWHERE ELSE. SPEND MORE MONEY. AND IF YOUR A KAREN OR A KEN YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE COMPLAIN.
I was on CERB and CRB and started my own business as well as paid $900 for a certification . I think it will make the regular people lazy that were already lazy, those who want to get ahead WILL. Period .
the only people that will be truly getting ahead are the people who have jobs that pay alot more than what UBI would be.....if not then they are just working for poverty wages ...
@@derekrank4572 Yup. It wasnt too long ago I was making $20/hr working 32 hrs a week making what UBI will be . I will get a job in May - Nov and work seasonally and my business will be extra cash provided Bill S 233 doesnt prevent me from receiving E.I 🙄
All this talk about someone being lazy in a world where vast amounts of people are working harder for less. It's nobody's business how you got money or what you do with it. How dare you dictate what someone has to do so they can have money to survive. If you accept we need money to survive, but want to dictate that someone has to work to YOUR satisfaction so they can merely survive, you're truly fucked in the head. I was not born to spend my life working for someone else like a fucking robot. Ubi has nothing to do with laziness. We are human and we get to make our own choices to live our own lives.
How would universal basic income work? UBI would guarantee every citizen within a governed population a regular payment from the government with enough money to live on. Most UBI plans would be funded by tax revenues and would either supplement or replace existing welfare programs.
And when tax money runs out Do we hear la Bla Bla Bla ftom Treudork and Freeride backed up or moistly likely dumped on Jagmeet Justin Treudeu and Jagmeet Singh have got to go
Bernie needs to educate himself on the ubi website and yt channel. Provincial welfare program in Ontario assists at $733.00 a month. mm mmm good nutrition on that a month. You can sleep on the sidewalk.
The big question will this ever happen🤔? This pandemic caused havoc everywhere. Is the government going to sit back and squabble like children over this, or, do something. Calling people lazy certainly wouldn't give me any incentive to go to work. Many fall in situations that their not able. At this point actions speak louder than words. Thank's for the update Jas
So true! Calling us lazy when we are slaving away still barely able to afford food on top of rent not making enough money! It's like a slap in the face when they call us lazy after how much we are slaving to survive!
If 15 million Canadians qualify for for it, the baseline cost is 400 billion per year. That sounds high, but it would eliminate ei, it would eliminate welfare, it would have difficult to measure but heath care costs due to stress and mental health. Not to mention the economic potential when people have the time to start a business they otherwise never had the freedom to. I'm not saying it will not cost more, it may, but much of that money could come back in sales tax, business revenue and some of the 2k is withheld for income tax to begin with. Inflation didn't need to happen with the past benefits the problem was we didn't fund them through taxes and reduced alternative spending, we funded them strictly through printing more money. People blamed the benefits for inflation, but they need to blame it mostly on the source not the destination.
@@happydaze7386 Sure they will stick around, as long as there is the status quo of government socializing their losses and failures at the tax payers' expense and still get to offshore most of that money in trusts and don't need to use it to keep afloat what wealth and businesses they have at home. Also that only half of their capital gains are subject to tax is an incentive to stay; keep in mind there are no lack of wealthy folk that make most of their income from investment not from payroll.
$2,000 a month isn't enough to "stay home and be lazy." The arguments against universal basic income tend to be very outdated and they simply don't match the data. Maybe it's not $2,000 a month but a universal basic income, well greatly improve the quality of people's lives.
Will make people more motivated and eventually all the money will roll back in the economy.This amount will compensate the highest inflation rate that we are currently seeing.....more to come.
If u know Marco economics. Government gives money to people so they can spend more. It helps to stable the economy of that country and also help to stable the business. This is the way to control inflation. This is how economy get stable when people don't have sufficient money to buy goods
People are not lazy, people cannot afford to make ends meet, look at the groceries prices, gas, rent bank increase their rates every thing keep going up, and the government should pass the bill for a UBI especially in this challenging time
@@happydaze7386 no !! It's will not !! It's helping Canadians. In this challenging time. Prices keep going up, them minimum wage should go up to $25.00 dollars, so Canadians can afford to make ends meet.
The object of UBI is to drive even more inflation so that in the end those receiving UBI will be no better off but the government will have an easier time paying its debts.
Why isn't this even mentioned on any of the news channels? I don't see anything related to legislation being debated on any of news. Why do I have to come to You Tube to stay informed?
I also don't think it will make people lazy. I think if people decide to be lazy, they will have a tough life. Well, I live in BC. I don't think $2000 a month would cover expenses and what you would need to live here. So I am all for the UBI
Makes sense, it cannot be linked to digital I d passports, or manipulative and control ploys by our govt officials. That would be detrimental, I feel since part of the idea of it would be to facilitate incentive, selfmanagement/ empowerment and discipline. The welfare/ social assistance system in the past seemed like a vicious circle for many recipients and any training available was generally an avenue to entry level or dead end job placement. Many lose hope in that system.
@@derekrank4572 I understand. I get it, everyone is struggling to make ends meet. But here’s my question, how did we get here? Our dollar does not buy what it used to because our dollar is weak and inflation is out of control. Where do you imagine our government get it’s money? Mostly from tax payers. Have you figured out the cost of giving $2000 dollars a month to every adult Canadian? Who pays for that? Does it make our country more or less attractive to investors? Income tax was brought in as a temporary measure in 1917 to help pay down the war debt. When the debt was paid the government kept the tax in place and have added many many other taxes since. UBI is not free money, the government is not well meaning. There is an agenda here too. Research history my friend. I wish you well, truly I do.
People need to learn how to figure out how to stick to a budget and maybe even learn what a budget is. People working can't afford to pay more in taxes for them to give it to someone who chooses or doesn't what to work. Entitlement is a terrible thing now a days and more and more people seem to have it. Give your head a shake people
Cuz we know how the government makes these programs now and then expects the money back a year 2 years later I watched a lot of people go homeless over the government's nonsense
When people don't understand how Government finances work that is what happens. People need to understand how they work, to pay for these programs they use a keyboard to credit someone's bank account out of thin air.
Every human being has a path that they must follow. When you come towards a fork in the road. moving forward, do you choose it, or does it choose you? Who is given the wisdom to know what is lazy? Is a monk dedicating their life to silence and self-reflection considered such? While the man who assembles weaponry or mixes poisons in a factory for most of their lives is considered admirable to the rest of the world. I would consider the person who brings a smile to the faces of the suffering, less lazy than the banker who buys and sells electronic air for a living. Just sayin.
Thankyou for your view. Gives a different perspective. The majority of us are so programmed, we cant see the forest through the trees. I have worked my butt off my whole life, never lived extravagantly, raised 2 children, and have always felt like it's a treadmill, 1 month away from being homeless. I see so many stressed out people every day, just trying to make ends meet, and keep a float. I would not label that as lazy!
@@sherrybonnett4827 Greetings and thank you. I have a family history of heart disease, and the stresses of life took both my father and grandfather in their early 40's. After having my own heart attack (at work mind you) I decided to make some life changes. Now I have little money but have no worries either. As a minimalist, I don't need much, and therefore can live a relatively peaceful life. A UBI would be great for me, but I'm more of an advocate for future generations. With automation and A.I. advancements in the near future, most manual, administrative and service labor jobs will be gone. Think of the laziness factor when that happens.
@@RDGray I know many people that would not be lazy. They can use their skills in another direction. I will continue to do natilural healing work, as it will be needed, I also have a plan to work with different groups with tai chi and Qi gong meditation. It is enjoyable form of exercise, that focuses 9n breathing, mindlefuness, helps with energy levels. It will be an opportunity to help others, and maybe if they are feeling better mentally and physically, they can have more motivation. Also, opportunities with music and dance. More enjoyable way of working and inspiring! We are definitely living in interesting times!🌞🌱
@@sherrybonnett4827 In the future there will be isolated communities throughout Canada that are designed for self-sustained living. A home for the addicted, depressed, mentally ill and homeless. A retreat away from social media and the stresses of modern day life. A place where the true meaning of life is taught and shared. If you're young enough, you may end up living there yourself...some day.
No, it will not make people lazy. It will help us meet basic needs, put back money into the economy via what we buy and as a self employed person, help me achieve my goals faster. Get so tired of heartless people unwilling to financially support others so they can make a difference. These people always say it will make us lazy. No one wants to sit around doing nothing. We all in our own way want to make a difference to make life better for ourselves and others.
The only "heartless" people here are those who demand that others financially support them just because they exist yet are too lazy and irresponsible to carry their own weight. Entitled much?
@@shauncameron8390 Like those that have a sense of entitlement that expect the taxpayer to socialize their losses and failures at the taxpayers expense and have them maintain a tax regime that allows them to their 1000 percent profits.
@@sahlaamorris3180 It is absurd that most people on welfare or UBI would be satisfied with a fixed income that is below most minimum wages. most would go to work or to college to improve their prospects.
@@rps1689 I agree with you. I am not saying that it is good to be permanently on it. I am saying that for people who have some kind of disability or circumstance, that stands in their way, having something is better than living under a bridge. You must understand them and help them as they do not know how to help themselves
People who don't work now won't work under UBI. So what as long as they don't break the law and aren't causing mischief. The rest of us will us UBI for living such as rent, bills, and food. Our jobs will finally provide safety and more disposable income. OH no more disposable income, this will be a disaster for the local retail economy.
There's got to be an expectation of community service for this. I believe in a UBI as the vast majority of the stratified levels of bureaucracy within the inefficient ineffective patchwork of social programs would be eliminated. This is to me a quick easy way to go
You believe in the UBI because it eliminates social programs and do you also believe then that markets/ for profit businesses and capitalism is the answer? Get rid of Government services? Quick easy way to go is how humans have been doing things. Hasn't turned out so great I think.
@@henrygustav7948 if people get the help they need from one place then I don't think that it's a repudiation of social programs. Right now it ISN'T working. And that's the point. A UBI/ GAI could have easily been achieved with the spending on CERB/ CRB that we had. But the government ( as usual) buried it's head in the sand. I voted Conservative and by endorsing this ( as well as Proportional Representation) have carved out a position that is antithetical to some within the party.
As a prosperous and highly sophisticated nation, we're not shy about toying with the violence very plenty of our fellow Canadians enduring daily in their spartan existence, Go Canada.
Basic income helps the smart n young generations to invest in a house for them to live n keep it for their children's future. Can't the opposition people think in that path n there will be no more homelessness. May be they can invest in small businesses n create jobs for Canadians. There's always good deeds coming out from good deeds that comes from top governing bodies.
LOL. There's no such thing as a good deed from a top governing body as it's always done to peddle an agenda which usually involves money and power-grabbing.
As long as we have a corrupt tax regime that favours corporations and the richest of the richest where workers' earnings gets funnelled up too quickly in a few concentrated hands; plus considering automation is increasing at a fast rate and more AI around the corner, it is inevitable some sort of UBI will be required, and a transition to a commerce based economy instead of an employment based one. They way it stands now, increasing tax rates on the mega rich and corporations means nothing because they have so many deductions that pretty much has them paying an effective rate of zero on most of their profits.Taxing executive compensation and getting rid of the capital gains tax would be ideal for the creation of commerce based economy. Also the problem with Capital gains tax is gets to much favourable tax treatment; i.e., the interest and gains on stocks, bonds and investments are not taxed enough compared to payroll taxes, which puts a greater tax burden on the worker especially the middle class. During the transition to a commerce based economy, the best way to reduce taxes for small businesses and bring back the competitive advantage so they can compete with big companies, would be to progressively tax commerce instead of net profit so the largest of the monopolies and conglomerates are forced to self divest and spin off divisions and plants.
I will vote for Stephen for the liberal party in June I do not like 4 but I will vote for the liberal party and I know many other people will too and I hope he wins for the Ubi for low income people
@@shauncameron8390 Hong Kong and Singapore; bastions of capitalism have had subsidized housing, businesses, and no lack of hand out over the decades. No middle class or upper middle class person in Hong Kong could ever afford housing if it wasn't for the subsidies and rent caps.
@@shawnaford5540 The bout of "inflation" during covid was almost entirely due to corrupt corporate price gouging during a national emergency; one only has to look at the record-level profits which do not comport with inflation pressures due to rising costs. And it is still occurring.
So basicly a form of a higher welfare payment....and people on welfare and disability should be given a card with a the amount they get a month...basicly works like a debit or credit card ...it is then recorded on what they are spending and on what....if they are buying non essential items like they do in South Korea with the UBI they get
Does it affect seniors whose only income is CPP/OAS/GIS, and the total is less than 24k dlrs yearly? That's my situation,so I'm trying to find answers. Can anyone help?
I've been reading blogs & memos from Liberal MP offices in the last 10 days, and they've all pretty much said that they're against both basic income bills (Gazan & Pate) and that the chances of either one passing third reading is next to zero. 😢😢, however, they are touting about MP pay increase of 25% on April 1st & that they're all for it.
$2000 a month isn't enough for the retired poor to live on. If I had a lot of money I wouldn't take the retirement benefit no matter if I paid into it.
That would probably be the best way to go then there wouldn't be people out there taking advantage of the system because it would all be through Revenue Canada
Those who are for granteed basic income do not know what they are asking for, how it will be paid for and the after effects of such a policy. You cause evil with ignorance.
@@henrygustav7948 What are you talking about? the only evil people I know are the conservatives and those who try to prevent help to low incomes and the poor in this society, they are worried about people's laziness all of the sudden?!!!! or worried about less money coming to their pockets
@@roberts3965 because its false hope, you will expend extraordinary amounts of political capital just to get a policy that gets you mediocre help. You need an analytical tool to understand just how you fix poverty, low incomes, divorces, suicides, drug and alcohol addiction. If you have read about unemployment then you should know unemployment is at the root of all these societal issues. Its not just about money but peoples connection to each other as well. Unemployment is a policy choice by Governments who have been co-opted by neoliberals to give businesses leverage over the workforce. Gives the capitalist more power over peoples wages. Unemployment originates with the Federal government, they choose to use unemployment as a hedge against inflation and they do that by controlling interest rates. Social security is a basic income that can be expanded on to better serve the disabled and the elderly, that is what we do for those who can not or should not be working/producing. Its how the able and the young take care of the old and disabled. The Federal government can always afford to pay out social security until infinity, dollars are just numbers created on a keyboard, its about making sure that the goods and services will be there when those benefits are paid out so that SS recipients can buy them.
@@henrygustav7948 ok you right but things won't be solved the way it has to be resolved because they do know that there is no population increase the way they desire therefore they say let people hung on to what they have but with the current situation universal living is the best option if it practically come to action
This program would guarantee all Canadians aged 18 to 64 an income of at least 75% of the Low-Income Measure (LIM, a common measure of Canada's poverty line), or a basic income of about $18,300 for individuals and $25,900 for couples.
Well in order to implement this,i am seeing the end of CPP,Old age pensions.In order to balance the budgets or generate more national debts Govt will look into the pensions and or implement the new Universal pay plan.
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@Phillipp Vogt Do you think all 330 million people in the US for example can be investors? If everyone is an investor then who is working? This mindset of I'm going to invest and get mines is poisonous. Its like the trope of Americans thinking they are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. We will all make it one day, we will be millionaries one day. Like the lottery right?
@@ct1216 Either it's UBI as everyone gets it or it's just another fancy name for welfare as only certain segments of the population get it like with the existing social programs.
We were already getting $2000 per month on CERB and I was working on my business even though everything was closed. People on disability (Aish) can work and earn an income and many do. Seniors on pensions, many work as well. Lazy is not a medical nor a psychological term. It is a derogative term used to manipulate people.
damn rights couldnt have said it better
AGREED WELL SAID😊
Can only make $1000 month on aish
Taxpayers have supported millions of welfare recepients,many legimate and ofcourse lots lazy ones misusing for years.Take all that away and see where they stand for employment?There is no way of establishing a fair system without the cracks.Look at the wider picture and see the impact on the economy.
@@imranrizvi5412 honestly I'd pay into some money if it meant to get the homeless off the street and in a home. You are simply lucky to be healthy enough to work, other aren't and end up homeless from sickness or jod loss. There's no such thing as lazy.
The homeless doesn't steal your tax money though. The government does. Donut man slips a few in his pocket then gets everyone else to blame the poor. The gov steals, and pretends like they give it too the poor, becuase they know well enough they can afford to give the homeless money and not take it from workers.
It's just a lie to keep everyone from getting any richer. This is how the gov pushes us down.
Gov will take your money regardless if they give any money too the poor or not.
They are already paying 83 billion to keep people homeless. They know they could pay less to just give each person money so they can get out of homelessness but the idea is to keep them poor. And then when they do give money to everyone they act like it's all the poor's fault and get the middle class to blame the poor.
Say it with me "it's the gov that steals not the poor" yay we're learning
Lazzy? are you kidding? I don't think too many people understand how many lost their work forever, and the ones close to their 60's cannot find any work that pays enough to live. Lots of people lots work, why aren't people talking about this. The $2000.00 will help that's for sure.
I’m a disabled ex-construction worker now driving school bus and on a pretty much fixed income with a wife and 2 teenagers at home. With gas, food, energy and inflation of everything else, my head is being held under water. Pretty much drowning….
Just remember Ubi means loss of freedom!
How?
@@a.m.7438 because I the history of ubi the government dosen't give away free money you pay with your freedom otherwise they wouldn't do it.
@@a.m.7438 you better not question them and you better have all your needles. Were gonna be going digital currency soon and every transaction will have to be monitored and approved
@@lasttry99 i don't buy any of this. There are tons of research showing the positive effects of basic income. Basic income increases freedom.
The logistics behind controlling people through basic income would CRUSH any government trying to abuse its people. Government always lags behind tech, and besides, we decide who we vote for. With income, we are more flexible, more mobile, more capable of reacting quickly to any harmful actions to limit our freedoms.
Basic income unlocks human participation in their societies.
See Scott Santens on universal basic income. He's been researching and teaching it for many years now. And he had a new book on money and independence.
Whoever is selling you on basic income as slavery is conning you. Don't let fear cloud your judgment.
Universal basic income is freedom.
@@a.m.7438 will were gonna find out soon. The fact that it's drive inflation is common sense. And the taxpayers are gonna be the ones to pay or are they just gonna continue printing monopoly money because it's basically worthless now
if you have a disability how does that make you lazy
UBI only makes sense for those with disabilities who have permanent limitations, and seniors who do not make enough to live above the poverty line. If it is applied too broadly it will create too much dependence on government. We need to address why people cannot thrive in the first place and address those shortcomings first! The tax burden of UBI would be insane!! Who pays for that?
The real question is will UBI ever happen lol
UBI NOW WE NEED UBI
@@Thetruthw hahahaha why you telling this to me im not trudeau
Canadians can't afford UBI. Who do you think is going to pay for this??? Us tax payers. Wake up everyone.
@@marilynmccall2879 ...guess what? You already are paying for it. CPP, EI and WCB are three examples. And given how disjointed it is this costs would largely be absorbed.
No it most likely will not happen for the exact reason in this video title
Basic income, is insanity , who is going to work ? if you are paid for not working , where is the incentive for working ? Canada already has the highest
taxes in the world , when working people ,end up with less money after taxes ,why work ?you don't have to be a genus to ask that question . that spells
tragedy , to many people on welfare into drugs , alcohol , crime , drug dealers etc. People need a purpose ,work builds integrity , you can' just give people money.
spending other people's money is called welfare , that system has failed everywhere ,because eventually you run out of other people's money .
To me it seems more like the beginning of a social credit system
Yes it is!
It's already begun. Post something online someone doesn't like, and your life can be ruined.
Nailed it exactly what it is communist ways because trudeu admires China and the way they do things.
On December 16, 2021 Member of Parliament Leah Gazan introduced Bill C-223, which if passed, would establish the first national framework for an unconditional Guaranteed Livable Basic Income for all persons over 17 across Canada.
It won't pass. The smirking liberal MP's will vote it down flat before third reading. All hope is lost.
This program would guarantee all Canadians aged 18 to 64 an income of at least 75% of the Low-Income Measure (LIM, a common measure of Canada's poverty line), or a basic income of about $18,300 for individuals and $25,900 for couples.
It won't "make" people lazy it will give them a glimmer of hope, and incentive to move ahead !
With, personal choices and freedoms intact. Not, if you do what govt dictates, you can receive supplement, that would be dangling a carrot, which is what allows manipulation and dictatorship.
@@sherrybonnett4827 But what to do, what to do ? More and more Canadians are ending up in food banks, and are losing their abilities to pay all their bills, and I'm talking about people who have jobs !!
Eventually, thus becomes everyone's problem!
@@sherrybonnett4827 Wd are all already chasing dangling carrots in the great rat race, putting on a great act during job interviews, acting like we love our jobs, trying our best to keep our jobs ! In any case, ambitious people will always want to work even more in order to ADD their salaries to their UBI incomes !
@@pierre-rose7783 I agree with your perspective. I have a great healing plan for my beloved community....just need a bit more funds to make it happen! It will bring people together, out in nature, where we can giggle again. I can share my knowledge of a very gentle, enjoyable form of moving meditation, and offer some nutritious snacks, refreshing drinks, and talk about other healing modalities that are completely natural. A local retreat where people can come to recharge their batteries. I guess it is up to each one of us to create our own paradise!🌿🌞🌱🌷
I'm a single Canadian in my 50's and currently receive a total of $750 per month from government assistance.
Luckily, I live in a rooming house and my room costs $400 per month all inclusive.
Over the years I have learned to budget this income to get by. However this includes one meal a day, no friends, no recreational activities.
Even double my current amount ($1500) would change my life. It could change what I can do for myself. Even better, do for others.
But whatever, it's only money.
Not illegal to go in debt take a huge loan and before your passin you’ll have have to owe it back haha lol
@@MrWallace484 I still owe over $3000 from a student loan from 1995. The CRS holds back any tax credits owed until it is paid off. Gee, I wonder if that money could help my situation in todays economy?
@RD Gray...So true, so true ! Many lives are ruined because of shortfalls of a few hundred dollars a month, imagine how many would be saved if only they had some form of UBI !
No friends no recreational activities...sorry to hear that. I think the better way would be a jobs guarantee program that pays a living wage and provides community services guaranteeing a job as a right to all. People need more than just money, they need a way to connect with their own communities. A job at $20/hr with 4 day work week, healthcare, vacation days and sick days.
@@henrygustav7948 here’s the thing $20/hr is not a true living wage when one adds inflation as well. A true living wage is probably much closer to 28+an hr. In 2022
Universal basic income is a sociopolitical financial transfer policy proposal in which all citizens of a given population regularly receive a legally stipulated and equally set financial grant paid by the government without a means test. A basic income can be implemented nationally, regionally, or locally
A Universal basic income is given to all. A basic income like what the US has with social security gives it to people who are elderly and disabled.
@@happydaze7386 UBI by itself has inflationary pressures but its the need for capitalists to maintain profit margins or workers wanting higher wages that drives inflation. Its not that it makes everything cost more in relation which makes it bad policy, its that so much political capital would be wasted on it when what we really need are socially inclusive jobs which compete with jobs in private sector which would force all wages to go up.
Strategically- yes
Iam one of those recepients in receipt of Ontario works...and it's joke all the way, but we aren't the one laughing here....he made a very important and valued point about our provincial income support program is DISCOURAGING work , education and whatever else that may be hinderence for some of us...C'mon...food should never be so hard to get in this great land of Canada!...support is what it missing the most!
i dont think laziness will be anything if were all dead and homeless, its only getting worse. people on cerb literally started buisnesses. if we had ubi imagine how much freedom people would have to start buisnesses thence offering jobs on top of it. the gov knows what people are going through they are only saying lazy because they want to keep people low on money cause thats what keeps them higher level. and if you ask me any party or gov using the word lazy for some kind of non existant idea of knowing peoples situation is extremely unproffesional.
SMH lol
@@prairiebuds870 was that supposed to be rude towards my comment?
Bruh ive seen more lazy ass workers compared to non workers that are doing anything to get a job.
Cerb was a relief package and most the commercial activity was interrupted.Most of the businesses were shut down.Working individual did whatever they could,so there is no proof of laziness.Seniors who continued working were clawed back on GIS.So if this impact was foreseen people would have sat back and enjoyed.So once again where is the laziness?
If you think about people that inherited wealth or live off of income from investments that work at something , sure some are the “lazy”, or other negative term you can come up with. The difference is a basic income will improve health and productivity. Grandma might stay at home longer if there is someone can stay home more and support her safety. This list of benefits will be as diverse as their are people.
So to those that think money will make you “use any derogatory term you, like” again look at people that do not have to work for money. It would be better to have a universal income without all the social safety nets that have gaps, that steal dignity and the only downside it that it will reduce a lot of government workers. And people that work at many not for profit businesses. Not a bad thing.
@@happydaze7386 Looked it up and conspiracy fiction is a strong element with these topics. And you have to ask yourself who gains from these stories? When it is obvious we gain from UBI. Unlike corporations that value inflation as it means minimum wage earners are more dependent on getting more hours to keep standard of living. Look up Applebee’s recent leaked email for some non-fiction research.
@@happydaze7386 so cial credit and digital Id cannot be attatched to it. This would give government too much control and overreach. Our bill and charter of rights need to be upheld in an ethical manner.
If I was young again and getting UBI it would incentivize for me to want more; make more money, seek a better education, be more innovative; all simply out of the boredom of having a fixed income and the limits that come with it. As a capitalist I can see value in UBI and also know that a well thought out social safety net provides citizens to an extent assurance against bad luck and the downside risks of capitalist disruption plus can prevent extreme anti capitalism sentiment. That being said, there will always be some who will take advantage of UBI, but nothing like the costs to the middle class of seeing the richest of the richest and big corporations and their conglomerates getting their losses and failures socialized at the taxpayers' expense and see most of that money getting offshored into trust where they never have to use it to keep afloat what wealth and businesses they have at home.
Again the people that helped make Canada of today are left out? ? to 65 to qualify? I live on $1400 a month because Turdos government took $400 amonth away from my OAS and $500 from my wife??? I never got one cent of CERB? We seem to always be forgotten and left out???
Jack Burley Do you happen to know the reason why Revenu Canada cut OAS for your & your wife ?
@@maybelline081 My wife took 4 or 5 weeks of the CERB? I never got or took one cent of there money?
I have to pay $500 a month for medicals supplies that no Fed or Provincial government helps with? A doctor botched my prostrate removal operation, back in 2006. I was on ODSP around 2014, then in In 2018 I had lung cancer operation. ODSP gave me $24oo for help that year? 2018 A new Girl (worker) took over. She said we made too much money and now we are paying that back. Every time we get any money back at tax time? As you can see IWe want nothing too do with any government people what so ever. Yet the same time ODSP gave me that money for help with my operation, in a city 4 hrs away form my home. They had no problem giving 2 young people $200 to party on a weekend I heard them talking about it while I was waiting my turn in the ODSP office?
@@basketthound2133 The problem Mr. Burley is that every extra penny given by provincial or federal, it is always added on top of our income. Makes a mighty difference for you & your wife $900 less per month. So sorry Mr. Burley, that you'v been ill so much and no help $$ for medical supplies. I do not know in what province you are living, but I am grateful here in province of Quebec we have RAMQ (regime assurance maladie Quebec) for meds, doctors, operation etc. Hope the clawback for you & your wife will be ending soon. Take care Mr. Burley. Pleasant chatting with you. (sorry for my english, I speak mostly french )
Most people desire living standards that go above $2000/mo, Some will be lazy, but the majority will probably just work, though maybe not as much. Looking for better jobs and having more power at the negotiating tables for average workers would also be a good thing since unions are on a downwards trend.
Most people on UBI, on a fixed income, would most likely want to work and use it to make things easier to advance or go back to college.
I am adamantly opposed to this. With CERB, no one could fill lower paying work. Those that collect will collect and then work under the table and pay no taxes.
Well pay more or u go and do it
@@derekrank4572 Bingo. That's the plan.
Not with no cash currency. They will monitor everything
Lol, then all those who FILL LOWER PAYING WORK WILL QUIT. NO ONE WILL FILL THOSE POSTONS. SO, THOSE BUSSINESES WILL CLOSE. YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE TO SERVE YOU AND SHOP IN THOSE BUSSINESSES . YOULL HAVE TO SHOP SOMEWHERE ELSE. SPEND MORE MONEY. AND IF YOUR A KAREN OR A KEN YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE COMPLAIN.
@@derekrank4572 once the shelves go empty, we all go back to work.
I was on CERB and CRB and started my own business as well as paid $900 for a certification . I think it will make the regular people lazy that were already lazy, those who want to get ahead WILL. Period .
the only people that will be truly getting ahead are the people who have jobs that pay alot more than what UBI would be.....if not then they are just working for poverty wages ...
@@derekrank4572 Yup. It wasnt too long ago I was making $20/hr working 32 hrs a week making what UBI will be . I will get a job in May - Nov and work seasonally and my business will be extra cash provided Bill S 233 doesnt prevent me from receiving E.I 🙄
All this talk about someone being lazy in a world where vast amounts of people are working harder for less.
It's nobody's business how you got money or what you do with it.
How dare you dictate what someone has to do so they can have money to survive.
If you accept we need money to survive, but want to dictate that someone has to work to YOUR satisfaction so they can merely survive, you're truly fucked in the head. I was not born to spend my life working for someone else like a fucking robot.
Ubi has nothing to do with laziness. We are human and we get to make our own choices to live our own lives.
How would universal basic income work? UBI would guarantee every citizen within a governed population a regular payment from the government with enough money to live on. Most UBI plans would be funded by tax revenues and would either supplement or replace existing welfare programs.
And when tax money runs out
Do we hear la Bla Bla Bla ftom Treudork and Freeride backed up or moistly likely dumped on Jagmeet
Justin Treudeu and Jagmeet Singh have got to go
Bernie needs to educate himself on the ubi website and yt channel. Provincial welfare program in Ontario assists at $733.00 a month. mm mmm good nutrition on that a month. You can sleep on the sidewalk.
How about raising income for seniors and people on disability????
The big question will this ever happen🤔? This pandemic caused havoc everywhere. Is the government going to sit back and squabble like children over this, or, do something. Calling people lazy certainly wouldn't give me any incentive to go to work. Many fall in situations that their not able. At this point actions speak louder than words. Thank's for the update Jas
So true! Calling us lazy when we are slaving away still barely able to afford food on top of rent not making enough money!
It's like a slap in the face when they call us lazy after how much we are slaving to survive!
@@wewillstandwithchrist9669 Agreed, that's a slap in the face😡
If 15 million Canadians qualify for for it, the baseline cost is 400 billion per year. That sounds high, but it would eliminate ei, it would eliminate welfare, it would have difficult to measure but heath care costs due to stress and mental health.
Not to mention the economic potential when people have the time to start a business they otherwise never had the freedom to.
I'm not saying it will not cost more, it may, but much of that money could come back in sales tax, business revenue and some of the 2k is withheld for income tax to begin with.
Inflation didn't need to happen with the past benefits the problem was we didn't fund them through taxes and reduced alternative spending, we funded them strictly through printing more money. People blamed the benefits for inflation, but they need to blame it mostly on the source not the destination.
yes, the only way this could ever be financially viable is to eliminate the vast majority of existing social programs. EI and welfare would be gone.
@@happydaze7386 Sure they will stick around, as long as there is the status quo of government socializing their losses and failures at the tax payers' expense and still get to offshore most of that money in trusts and don't need to use it to keep afloat what wealth and businesses they have at home. Also that only half of their capital gains are subject to tax is an incentive to stay; keep in mind there are no lack of wealthy folk that make most of their income from investment not from payroll.
It certainly will not pay all the Bill's
Justin Treudeu and Jagmeet Singh have got to go
$2,000 a month isn't enough to "stay home and be lazy." The arguments against universal basic income tend to be very outdated and they simply don't match the data.
Maybe it's not $2,000 a month but a universal basic income, well greatly improve the quality of people's lives.
2K a month would not keep me from working.
@@rps1689 $2000 isn't much, so yes many will still work
Will make people more motivated and eventually all the money will roll back in the economy.This amount will compensate the highest inflation rate that we are currently seeing.....more to come.
That’s what I’m saying, it could produce many doctors, lawyers, entrepreneurs and anything that’s yields a 6 figure salary or more.
@@yassingurhan6204
Like in Venezuela? Or Greece?
So would this be for anyone in any province?
If it's implemented nationally, yes. But it isn't happening tomorrow, if ever.
If u know Marco economics. Government gives money to people so they can spend more. It helps to stable the economy of that country and also help to stable the business. This is the way to control inflation. This is how economy get stable when people don't have sufficient money to buy goods
Always interesting thanks.
People are not lazy, people cannot afford to make ends meet, look at the groceries prices, gas, rent bank increase their rates every thing keep going up, and the government should pass the bill for a UBI especially in this challenging time
@@happydaze7386 no !! It's will not !! It's helping Canadians. In this challenging time. Prices keep going up, them minimum wage should go up to $25.00 dollars, so Canadians can afford to make ends meet.
@@indram5384
Yes it will.
The object of UBI is to drive even more inflation so that in the end those receiving UBI will be no better off but the government will have an easier time paying its debts.
Why isn't this even mentioned on any of the news channels? I don't see anything related to legislation being debated on any of news. Why do I have to come to You Tube to stay informed?
Would seniors qualify for the UBI? Or will the seniors get nothing again?
It would be for everyone, all ages.
I also don't think it will make people lazy. I think if people decide to be lazy, they will have a tough life. Well, I live in BC. I don't think $2000 a month would cover expenses and what you would need to live here. So I am all for the UBI
Slowly change people to freebies and then they can never go back to what they were Total Human Control
Well you pay for it then!!
It would be better for the taxpayer to
I’ve worked all my life and I honestly have never felt like I was above water or or even capable of being “successful”. Basic income is a yes for me.
Makes sense, it cannot be linked to digital I d passports, or manipulative and control ploys by our govt officials. That would be detrimental, I feel since part of the idea of it would be to facilitate incentive, selfmanagement/ empowerment and discipline. The welfare/ social assistance system in the past seemed like a vicious circle for many recipients and any training available was generally an avenue to entry level or dead end job placement. Many lose hope in that system.
Slowly change people to freebies and then they can never go back to what they were Total Human Control
And your all 40 years old and still living with your mom and dad
@@derekrank4572 I understand. I get it, everyone is struggling to make ends meet. But here’s my question, how did we get here? Our dollar does not buy what it used to because our dollar is weak and inflation is out of control. Where do you imagine our government get it’s money? Mostly from tax payers. Have you figured out the cost of giving $2000 dollars a month to every adult Canadian? Who pays for that? Does it make our country more or less attractive to investors? Income tax was brought in as a temporary measure in 1917 to help pay down the war debt. When the debt was paid the government kept the tax in place and have added many many other taxes since. UBI is not free money, the government is not well meaning. There is an agenda here too. Research history my friend. I wish you well, truly I do.
People need to learn how to figure out how to stick to a budget and maybe even learn what a budget is. People working can't afford to pay more in taxes for them to give it to someone who chooses or doesn't what to work. Entitlement is a terrible thing now a days and more and more people seem to have it. Give your head a shake people
That will be great to have Universal Basic Income approved.
Straight up communism.
@@happydaze7386 University brainwashed
Cuz we know how the government makes these programs now and then expects the money back a year 2 years later I watched a lot of people go homeless over the government's nonsense
When people don't understand how Government finances work that is what happens. People need to understand how they work, to pay for these programs they use a keyboard to credit someone's bank account out of thin air.
The same broken systems /20 years
Every human being has a path that they must follow. When you come towards a fork in the road. moving forward, do you choose it, or does it choose you?
Who is given the wisdom to know what is lazy? Is a monk dedicating their life to silence and self-reflection considered such? While the man who assembles weaponry or mixes poisons in a factory for most of their lives is considered admirable to the rest of the world. I would consider the person who brings a smile to the faces of the suffering, less lazy than the banker who buys and sells electronic air for a living. Just sayin.
a monk dedicating their life to silence is probably doing more good than 50% of workers
Thankyou for your view. Gives a different perspective. The majority of us are so programmed, we cant see the forest through the trees. I have worked my butt off my whole life, never lived extravagantly, raised 2 children, and have always felt like it's a treadmill, 1 month away from being homeless. I see so many stressed out people every day, just trying to make ends meet, and keep a float. I would not label that as lazy!
@@sherrybonnett4827 Greetings and thank you. I have a family history of heart disease, and the stresses of life took both my father and grandfather in their early 40's. After having my own heart attack (at work mind you) I decided to make some life changes. Now I have little money but have no worries either. As a minimalist, I don't need much, and therefore can live a relatively peaceful life. A UBI would be great for me, but I'm more of an advocate for future generations. With automation and A.I. advancements in the near future, most manual, administrative and service labor jobs will be gone. Think of the laziness factor when that happens.
@@RDGray I know many people that would not be lazy. They can use their skills in another direction. I will continue to do natilural healing work, as it will be needed, I also have a plan to work with different groups with tai chi and Qi gong meditation. It is enjoyable form of exercise, that focuses 9n breathing, mindlefuness, helps with energy levels. It will be an opportunity to help others, and maybe if they are feeling better mentally and physically, they can have more motivation. Also, opportunities with music and dance. More enjoyable way of working and inspiring! We are definitely living in interesting times!🌞🌱
@@sherrybonnett4827 In the future there will be isolated communities throughout Canada that are designed for self-sustained living. A home for the addicted, depressed, mentally ill and homeless. A retreat away from social media and the stresses of modern day life. A place where the true meaning of life is taught and shared. If you're young enough, you may end up living there yourself...some day.
No, it will not make people lazy. It will help us meet basic needs, put back money into the economy via what we buy and as a self employed person, help me achieve my goals faster. Get so tired of heartless people unwilling to financially support others so they can make a difference. These people always say it will make us lazy. No one wants to sit around doing nothing. We all in our own way want to make a difference to make life better for ourselves and others.
The only "heartless" people here are those who demand that others financially support them just because they exist yet are too lazy and irresponsible to carry their own weight. Entitled much?
@@shauncameron8390 Judgmental much? You do not know people's stories.
@@shauncameron8390 Like those that have a sense of entitlement that expect the taxpayer to socialize their losses and failures at the taxpayers expense and have them maintain a tax regime that allows them to their 1000 percent profits.
@@sahlaamorris3180 It is absurd that most people on welfare or UBI would be satisfied with a fixed income that is below most minimum wages. most would go to work or to college to improve their prospects.
@@rps1689 I agree with you. I am not saying that it is good to be permanently on it. I am saying that for people who have some kind of disability or circumstance, that stands in their way, having something is better than living under a bridge. You must understand them and help them as they do not know how to help themselves
People who don't work now won't work under UBI. So what as long as they don't break the law and aren't causing mischief. The rest of us will us UBI for living such as rent, bills, and food. Our jobs will finally provide safety and more disposable income. OH no more disposable income, this will be a disaster for the local retail economy.
There's got to be an expectation of community service for this. I believe in a UBI as the vast majority of the stratified levels of bureaucracy within the inefficient ineffective patchwork of social programs would be eliminated. This is to me a quick easy way to go
You believe in the UBI because it eliminates social programs and do you also believe then that markets/ for profit businesses and capitalism is the answer? Get rid of Government services? Quick easy way to go is how humans have been doing things. Hasn't turned out so great I think.
@@henrygustav7948 if people get the help they need from one place then I don't think that it's a repudiation of social programs. Right now it ISN'T working. And that's the point. A UBI/ GAI could have easily been achieved with the spending on CERB/ CRB that we had. But the government ( as usual) buried it's head in the sand. I voted Conservative and by endorsing this ( as well as Proportional Representation) have carved out a position that is antithetical to some within the party.
How about seasonal workers? Usually i am getting EI but now i can't apply for EI
There's a real insensitive to work. Utterly stupid idea.
As a prosperous and highly sophisticated nation, we're not shy about toying with the violence very plenty of our fellow Canadians enduring daily in their spartan existence, Go Canada.
How does 15.00 min wage work into this discussion.
Basic income helps the smart n young generations to invest in a house for them to live n keep it for their children's future. Can't the opposition people think in that path n there will be no more homelessness. May be they can invest in small businesses n create jobs for Canadians. There's always good deeds coming out from good deeds that comes from top governing bodies.
LOL. There's no such thing as a good deed from a top governing body as it's always done to peddle an agenda which usually involves money and power-grabbing.
As long as we have a corrupt tax regime that favours corporations and the richest of the richest where workers' earnings gets funnelled up too quickly in a few concentrated hands; plus considering automation is increasing at a fast rate and more AI around the corner, it is inevitable some sort of UBI will be required, and a transition to a commerce based economy instead of an employment based one.
They way it stands now, increasing tax rates on the mega rich and corporations means nothing because they have so many deductions that pretty much has them paying an effective rate of zero on most of their profits.Taxing executive compensation and getting rid of the capital gains tax would be ideal for the creation of commerce based economy. Also the problem with Capital gains tax is gets to much favourable tax treatment; i.e., the interest and gains on stocks, bonds and investments are not taxed enough compared to payroll taxes, which puts a greater tax burden on the worker especially the middle class.
During the transition to a commerce based economy, the best way to reduce taxes for small businesses and bring back the competitive advantage so they can compete with big companies, would be to progressively tax commerce instead of net profit so the largest of the monopolies and conglomerates are forced to self divest and spin off divisions and plants.
I will vote for Stephen for the liberal party in June I do not like 4 but I will vote for the liberal party and I know many other people will too and I hope he wins for the Ubi for low income people
Middle class going to end up paying for this its complete trash.
You got that right...
Yes FREE CHEESE! Gimme that free cheese....I don't care if it's a mouse trap! 🤪
It won't make people lazy...but will develop microeconomy for Canada.
Singapore's economy began with strong microeconomy.
Yes it will.
@@shauncameron8390 ... wrong... politicians who opposed CRB will be exposed...and will never get votes from poor seniors like me!
@@p.j.882
Right. And Singapore's economy didn't begin with handouts.
@@shauncameron8390 ... wrong!!!
Government under Lee Kwan Yew supported small businesses in the late 60s.
@@shauncameron8390 Hong Kong and Singapore; bastions of capitalism have had subsidized housing, businesses, and no lack of hand out over the decades. No middle class or upper middle class person in Hong Kong could ever afford housing if it wasn't for the subsidies and rent caps.
how are they going to finance this project? put more taxes on what? since they are going ''green'' no more taxes on gas/oil?
it would help alllot of people deal with the rising costs due to inflation
@@happydaze7386 No corporation greed is the source of inflation.
@@shawnaford5540
No. Government mismanagement of funds is the source of inflation.
@@shawnaford5540 The bout of "inflation" during covid was almost entirely due to corrupt corporate price gouging during a national emergency; one only has to look at the record-level profits which do not comport with inflation pressures due to rising costs. And it is still occurring.
So basicly a form of a higher welfare payment....and people on welfare and disability should be given a card with a
the amount they get a month...basicly works like a debit or credit card ...it is then recorded on what they are spending and on what....if they are buying non essential items like they do in South Korea with the UBI they get
Does it affect seniors whose only income is CPP/OAS/GIS, and the total is less than 24k dlrs yearly? That's my situation,so I'm trying to find answers. Can anyone help?
Ubi hasn’t come into effect yet
Except ubi and say goodbye to what's left of our basic freedom
UBI is going to equal a social credit system. No thanks. I’ll be homeless before I accept their money.
No, i think it would help us out of debt that the government put us in. Plus living an improvement in our lives. But these people think negativity.
Thanks for information
Somebody is going to get taxed to death if this happens, and pensioners already get this or more.
If JT and liberals learned to budget canada could be a wealthy country.
They already did a pilot project and Doug Ford scrapped it.
Doug Ford was about as obligated to keep that around as Justin Trudeau was to keep the Public Transit tax credit around.
Thanks
I've been reading blogs & memos from Liberal MP offices in the last 10 days, and they've all pretty much said that they're against both basic income bills (Gazan & Pate) and that the chances of either one passing third reading is next to zero. 😢😢, however, they are touting about MP pay increase of 25% on April 1st & that they're all for it.
Work is for slaves humans shouldnt be working hopefully this bill gets approve
Slaves? You mean like those who built the device you're posting on?
@@danielhartin7680 Yes
GOD says if they won't work dont feed them.
@@sheilakinney4500
He that does not work shall not eat.
Canceled by Doug because it didn’t work
Canceled before data was analyzed or the study completed. The project did fit conservative values.
$2000 a month isn't enough for the retired poor to live on. If I had a lot of money I wouldn't take the retirement benefit no matter if I paid into it.
Do what some rich people do, donate your benefit to charity.
That would probably be the best way to go then there wouldn't be people out there taking advantage of the system because it would all be through Revenue Canada
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Those who are against the granteed basic income are not human, they are evil and have no companion what so ever.
LOL. While those who are for guaranteed basic income are just advocating for their own servitude to the state.
Those who are for granteed basic income do not know what they are asking for, how it will be paid for and the after effects of such a policy. You cause evil with ignorance.
@@henrygustav7948 What are you talking about?
the only evil people I know are the conservatives and those who try to prevent help to low incomes and the poor in this society, they are worried about people's laziness all of the sudden?!!!! or worried about less money coming to their pockets
@@roberts3965 because its false hope, you will expend extraordinary amounts of political capital just to get a policy that gets you mediocre help. You need an analytical tool to understand just how you fix poverty, low incomes, divorces, suicides, drug and alcohol addiction. If you have read about unemployment then you should know unemployment is at the root of all these societal issues. Its not just about money but peoples connection to each other as well.
Unemployment is a policy choice by Governments who have been co-opted by neoliberals to give businesses leverage over the workforce. Gives the capitalist more power over peoples wages. Unemployment originates with the Federal government, they choose to use unemployment as a hedge against inflation and they do that by controlling interest rates.
Social security is a basic income that can be expanded on to better serve the disabled and the elderly, that is what we do for those who can not or should not be working/producing. Its how the able and the young take care of the old and disabled. The Federal government can always afford to pay out social security until infinity, dollars are just numbers created on a keyboard, its about making sure that the goods and services will be there when those benefits are paid out so that SS recipients can buy them.
@@henrygustav7948 ok you right but things won't be solved the way it has to be resolved because they do know that there is no population increase the way they desire therefore they say let people hung on to what they have but with the current situation universal living is the best option if it practically come to action
Will it include pensioners
This program would guarantee all Canadians aged 18 to 64 an income of at least 75% of the Low-Income Measure (LIM, a common measure of Canada's poverty line), or a basic income of about $18,300 for individuals and $25,900 for couples.
UBI WHEN ?
Will this be federal
Well in order to implement this,i am seeing the end of CPP,Old age pensions.In order to balance the budgets or generate more national debts Govt will look into the pensions and or implement the new Universal pay plan.
People would get bored, and there might be a rise in crime rate. There'd have to be a war; y'know, reduce the surface population
OK I GOT A job i get only 11.90 every two weeks i get mad because of my work there riping me off on my checks 🤬😭😭😭😭😭😠😡😡😡😡😡
Basic income is very important. No jobs . Life is stressful now. We need backup. Please please basic income must come.
The gateway to Socialism .... pure and simple.
Nothing wrong with socialism unless of course you are only interested in taking care of yourself and don’t care about those who can’t.
Yes .
W.E.F. is here in Canada
buying votes
i agree with ubi, but not this way
I wanted to trade in Crypto but got confused by the fluctuations in price
have been seeing a few ads pushing some investor s here. Not really sure if to go with it
@Dennis How do I contact Mr Richard Cowen ?
Thanks for his contact info, I’ll get to him right away😊
Liberals do something for people we need help ,to much talking no action
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@Phillipp Vogt Do you think all 330 million people in the US for example can be investors? If everyone is an investor then who is working? This mindset of I'm going to invest and get mines is poisonous. Its like the trope of Americans thinking they are just temporarily embarrassed millionaires. We will all make it one day, we will be millionaries one day. Like the lottery right?
Maybe people like you, which just speak without doing anything will becomes lazy
Ubi is not necessary just support low income families with rental supplement. A single person can always find a way to survive.
or disable
Yes it is. Either everyone gets it or no one does. Otherwise it's just welfare.
@@shauncameron8390 if you are young and single go and work 20 hours daily.
@@ct1216
Either it's UBI as everyone gets it or it's just another fancy name for welfare as only certain segments of the population get it like with the existing social programs.
Communism